Sasheer References Damn, Daniel

Summary

Best Friends with Nicole Byer and Sasheer Zamata

Episode: “Sasheer References Damn, Daniel”

Release Date: April 29, 2026
Host: Headgum
Featuring: Nicole Byer, Sasheer Zamata, Ally, Tessa

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Episode Overview

In this lively episode of Best Friends, Nicole, Sasheer, and their friends, Ally and Tessa, catch up about all things fashion nostalgia, meme culture, personal style journeys, home projects, and entertaining mishaps. The conversation hops between hilarious memories of middle school fashion faux pas, the enduring amusement of internet memes like “Damn, Daniel,” and the joy and anxiety of creative hobbies like sewing and gardening. Later, they tackle heartfelt listener questions about friendships complicated by confessions of romantic feelings.

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Key Discussions & Insights

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Searching for Style: Culottes, Gauchos, and Fashion Nostalgia

00:18 – 03:59

• Sasheer’s Quest for Culottes: Sasheer expresses her current desire to find the perfect pair of culottes, inspired by seeing someone on the street. The group debates the differences between culottes and gauchos.
  • “All I want for Christmas is culottes.” — Sasheer (00:29)
• Fashion Definitions: Nicole provides a detailed definition of culottes vs. gauchos.
  • “Culottes are generally more voluminous and skirt-like, higher, often higher waisted… gauchos are usually less flowy, wide leg cropped pants...” — Nicole (01:39)
• Internet & Meme Culture: The group reminisces about iconic viral moments and figures—“Damn, Daniel,” “Charlie bit my finger”—and how meme culture felt more innocent and connected in earlier internet days.
  • “The internet was a nice time back in the day, where, you know, Ellen would have you on when you went viral.” — Sasheer (02:22)

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Middle School Humiliations, Confidence, and Changing Trends

03:59 – 07:10

• Ally’s Fashion Disaster: Ally shares a story about being teased for high-waisted denim gauchos paired with a striped bodysuit in middle school.
  • “Any pants that were above your ankle were not cool. The flood’s coming. So I had these crazy pants… and people were like, she’s flooding. Oh my god. And I, like, ate my lunch in the library.” — Ally (04:39)
• Then vs. Now: The group reflects on how fashion freedom has changed and whether today’s students experience less judgement.
• Thrifting & Influencer Impact: They discuss the new coolness of thrifting, influence-driven crowds at resale stores, and the declining quality of thrifted finds.

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Personal Style Evolution and Embarrassing Outfits

07:10 – 09:53

• Sasheer and Jewelry: Sasheer describes her phases with jewelry, the comfort found in uniform dressing, and how lifestyle changes affect personal style.
  • “Once I got very busy and then started touring... That’s why the uniform appeared.” — Sasheer (09:18)
• Ally’s Wardrobe Confessions: Ally recalls unintentionally dressing “matronly” in her early New York days.
  • “I brought my own wardrobe. This was my outfit. I thought I looked really good.” — Ally (08:09)

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Damn, Daniel: Meme Hilarity and Group Chemistry

10:38 – 11:33

• Meme Laughter: Sasheer cannot contain her delight at the “Damn, Daniel” meme reference, leading to group hysteria.
  • “I got so excited when you said, ‘Damn, Daniel.’ I literally did this.” — Sasheer (08:08)
  • “I laugh so hard that it was maybe humiliating… but now he knows, if he says it, I’ll laugh.” — Sasheer (11:05)
• Being Sober and Silly: Sasheer notes that, contrary to some assumptions, her exuberance is just her natural self:
  • “Sometimes people think I’m under the influence and I’m like, this is me.” — Sasheer (11:29)

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Sewing, Special Interests, and Creative Home Projects

11:48 – 23:53

• Sewing Machine Upgrades: Sasheer receives sewing advice from listeners and friends, prompting her to rekindle her sewing journey.
  • “If my machine self-threads, that would make my life so much easier.” — Sasheer (12:32)
• Sewing Parties & Jumpsuit Ambitions: Excited for an upcoming sewing party, Sasheer shares aspirations to create jumpsuits tailored to her own measurements.
• DIY Home Projects: Ally talks about decorating with pressed flowers, while Sasheer discusses ambitions to turn dresses into culottes and combine pants for her ideal “super pant.”
• Special Interests & Procrastination: The hosts connect over how easily distracted they are by new projects and laugh at themselves for it.

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Block Party Planning & Neighborhood Fun

46:11 – 49:01

• Bouncy House Logistics: Sasheer considers renting a bouncy house for a potential Fourth of July block party, learning she’ll need a city permit (about $50 in Los Angeles).
  • “Maybe for Fourth of July, ‘cause I love doing a great big party, maybe I get a bouncy house...” — Sasheer (47:11)
• Dreaming Big: Ideas spiral into adding a slip-and-slide and serving drinks with another special event permit.

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Gardening Mishaps and DIY Triumphs

19:08 – 23:53, 39:03 – 43:48

• Armstrong Garden Center Enthusiasm: Sasheer enthusiastically endorses her favorite plant store and emphasizes the importance of instructions in planting.
  • “Home Depot. Shame on them. Big box corporation. I’m not going back. Armstrong Garden Center is here to help you. They’re not paying me at all.” — Sasheer (39:08)
• Gardening Dangers: She shares war stories of gardening in a bikini and braving thorns, sometimes using her nails instead of a shovel (“10 diggers”).
• Uncertain Harvest: Discussion of unsweet strawberries and finding mystery potatoes in the garden.
• DIY Safety: Injuries and pet mishaps remind everyone to proceed with caution.

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Clubbing, Concerts, and Dancing Nostalgia

30:35 – 38:00

• Craving Dance: The group reminisces about clubbing in Barcelona, expresses a desire to go dancing again, and shares war stories of wearing impractical shoes to concerts.
• Concert Mishaps: The perils of high heels, long pants, sweaty feet, and the challenge of staying upright at crowded venues.
  • “I want to dance and wear heels while I do it… means I have to cap it at, like, an hour.” — Sasheer (34:55)

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Listener Questions: Friendships & Romantic Confessions

52:36 – 64:36

• Listener 1: Love Confession Fallout ([52:36])
  • Listener asks if revealing feelings to a friend (who has a partner) was wrong, and whether the friendship can return to normal.
  • Advice: The group validates the courage it takes to share feelings but cautions that things almost always change after such confessions, especially if the friend is already in a relationship.
    • “Once you tell somebody something like that, it does change things.” — Sasheer (53:44)
    • “Bravo for being brave…but it might take some time to repair or your relationship might just be different.” — Sasheer (57:11)
• Listener 2: Can Exes Be Friends? ([57:35])
  • A listener wonders if friendship is possible after a brief phase of dating a friend who is about to move away.
  • Advice: The group suggests it probably isn’t possible to truly be “just friends” again if there are strong unresolved feelings, but acknowledges it’s okay to move forward, value the experience, and heal.
    • “If you have romantic feelings for somebody and they’re like, we can still be friends, I don’t think you should do that because why torture yourself?” — Sasheer (61:16)
    • “But ultimately it wouldn’t work anyway because he is leaving.” — Ally (62:52)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On meme joy: “I got so excited when you said ‘Damn, Daniel’…I was in the company of people I don’t know well... and I laughed so hard that it was maybe humiliating.” — Sasheer (10:38)
• On personal style: “He had a Beatles bowl cut…They thought it was so weird. And looking back, I’m like, that kid knew who the hell he was.” — Ally (05:22)
• On jewelry: “I wore the same thing. There was no variety. It was a zebra bracelet, two silver bracelets I couldn’t get off, a bunch of bangles…” — Sasheer (10:09)
• On gardening: “Home Depot. Shame on them. Armstrong Garden Center is here to help you... They're not paying me at all.” — Sasheer (39:08)
• On relationships: “I think it’s just cause and effect. You did something—that was the effect. That sucks. But bravo for being brave.” — Sasheer (57:02)

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Funniest Segments

• Sasheer’s “10 diggers” (her fingernails) and accidental slur (“That sounded like a slur!” — Tessa, 41:50)
• Planning a bouncy house block party and immediately discussing how to recoup the $50 permit fee
• Overanalyzing childhood fashion and garden mishaps in the most self-deprecating, giggly way
• Reminiscing about getting overly high at Lady Gaga and Usher concerts, plus the peril of loud sandwich eating in public

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Time | Segment | |--------------|------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:18–03:59 | Culottes vs. gauchos, fashion obsession, and early Internet memes | | 04:39–07:10 | Middle school “floods,” being teased, and finding confidence | | 08:09–09:53 | Awkward wardrobe choices and jewelry era reflections | | 10:38–11:33 | “Damn, Daniel” meme hysteria and the joy of silly humor | | 12:20–23:53 | Sewing ambitions, DIY projects, and creative home improvement | | 19:08–23:53, 39:03–43:48 | Gardening tips, disasters, Armstrong Garden Center love | | 30:35–38:00 | Clubbing memories, dancing, shoes at concerts, and physical comedy | | 52:36–56:29 | Listener Q1: Confessing romantic feelings to a friend | | 57:35–64:36 | Listener Q2: Navigating friendship after romance ends |

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Overall Tone & Vibe

The episode exudes joyful chaos and best-friend energy—affectionate roasting, nostalgia, openness, and a whole lot of laughter. The candid confessions, vulnerable advice, and playful tangents create an atmosphere that’s both deeply relatable and irresistibly entertaining—just like hanging out with your funniest, most sincere friends.

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For listeners who missed the episode:
Catch up on hilarious fashion mishaps, joyful meme reminiscing, creative home hacks (and hazards!), and heartfelt advice for life’s stickier social situations—all with the inimitable warmth and humor of Nicole, Sasheer, and friends.

Transcript

[Nicole]

This is a headgun podcast.

[Sashir]

We did it.

[Ally]

We did it.

[Sashir]

Close this year.

[Ally]

Hello, Nicole.

[Sashir]

I am in the market for culottes. I want culottes.

[Ally]

She wants culottes.

[Sashir]

It's all I want.

[Ally]

Oh, for Christmas.

[Tessa]

All I want for Christmas is culottes.

[Ally]

Wow.

[Sashir]

I just saw a woman on the street wearing big chunky shoes and culottes.

[Ally]

That's fun.

[Sashir]

And I was like, this is who I want to be. Yeah.

[Ally]

Now to remind my brain, culottes are wide and like kind of mid mid shin length.

[Sashir]

Yeah, it's like a midi skirt. Wait a minute.

[Tessa]

Those are. Those are shorts.

[Ally]

Is this a midi skirt? Oh, no, no, no, no.

[Sashir]

These are midi shorts. I

[Tessa]

love a culotte. A gaucho.

[Ally]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Sashir]

Wait, am I thinking of a gaucho?

[Ally]

What's the difference between a gaucho and a culotte?

[Sashir]

Damn, damn, damn. I hope the fashion girlies weren't like, she fucked that up.

[Ally]

Damn, Daniel.

[Tessa]

Do you remember that? It's my favorite meme. Damn, Daniel. Back at it again. White dance.

[Sashir]

Okay.

[Nicole]

Culottes are generally more voluminous and skirt, like, higher, often higher waisted and ending at or below the knee. While gauchos are usually less flowy, resemble wide leg cropped pants and often end at mid calf.

[Ally]

Okay, okay.

[Sashir]

So I think I'm in a cue lot. I want it big.

[Ally]

Nice big, Right?

[Sashir]

Yeah. I'm excited at who I'm gonna become.

[Ally]

I'm excited for this journey.

[Sashir]

Lots of jewelry and culottes. Man, I got so excited when you said, damn, Daniel. I literally did this.

[Tessa]

I was like, she's a closet.

[Ally]

That's when the Internet was fun.

[Sashir]

Yeah, the Internet was a nice time back in the day where, you know, Ellen would have you on when you went viral. Yeah, yeah. Daniel from Target. I think that was his name.

[Tessa]

Do you remember him?

[Ally]

I don't.

[Sashir]

Ted from Target. It was just a kid who worked at Target. I don't think he did anything. I think he scanned items.

[Ally]

Backpack kid.

[Sashir]

Backpack kid.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Tessa]

Oh, Charlie bit my finger.

[Ally]

Yeah, yeah, I remember that.

[Tessa]

That's so funny.

[Ally]

Yeah. Good times.

[Sashir]

Good times.

[Ally]

I actually,

[Sashir]

I don't.

[Ally]

I. I don't know if these are culottes or gauchos. Maybe gauchos because they were jeans. But I probably have talked about this before. It's a really great outfit that I would wear today, but I wore it in middle school and no one was liking it.

[Tessa]

It was.

[Ally]

I had a tight bodysuit that buttoned at the. At the crotch. It was black and white striped horizontal Stripes.

[Sashir]

Yeah.

[Ally]

And like a faded black denim gaucho situation that were high waisted. This is a cute outfit. By the time.

[Sashir]

Yeah.

[Ally]

Any pants that were above your ankle were not cool.

[Sashir]

Not cool.

[Ally]

Not cool. The flood's coming. Yes. You were flooding. And they made fun of everybody, including teachers who had any pants, including teachers, including adults.

[Tessa]

You stood no chance.

[Ally]

You said, no chance. So I had these crazy pants and

[Tessa]

people were like, she's flooding. Oh, my God.

[Ally]

And I like, ate my lunch in the library.

[Tessa]

No sheer.

[Ally]

And my friends were like, what? Have you untucked your shirt? And I was like, it's a body suit.

[Tessa]

It's a bodysuit. I can't change it at all. Oh, no.

[Sashir]

That is interesting because I feel like we're in an era now where it's like, wear what you want.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sashir]

Actually, I don't know. I'm not in high school. I don't know if the kids make fun of one another for being outdated.

[Ally]

I have no idea.

[Sashir]

Because when I was in school, it was like, if you wore things like hand me downs that were clear hand me downs from like 10 years ago, you would get fudgeing. Made fun of.

[Ally]

Yes.

[Sashir]

But I'm like, now with the like, thrifting is cool. I saw on the Internet an influencer had a story where they were like, I got into a Savers, the new Savers, two days early.

[Tessa]

Make sure you get to the.

[Sashir]

And I was like, so we're like influencing thrift stores.

[Ally]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Sashir]

And then flooding them with people. And I've been influenced. I have driven too far to go to a Savers.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sashir]

And they didn't have nothing I needed and wanted.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sashir]

It was. It was pretty. It was a bummer.

[Ally]

Yeah. The things aren't as well. There's not much good things to thrift anymore.

[Sashir]

It is wild.

[Ally]

It's really sad.

[Sashir]

But that does sound like a slamming outfit.

[Ally]

Right. I'm like, I wish I had it now.

[Sashir]

Yeah. Do you have any pictures of it?

[Ally]

No, I'm sure I don't.

[Sashir]

You're like, never again.

[Ally]

Bad day. I remember there was a kid in elementary school, he loved the Beatles. He had a Beatles bowl cut like. Like his hair was like jet black, like hanging above his eyebrows, around his ear, to the back. He always had a Beatles shirt on. Like, he just loved be. Everyone's like, you freak. They like thought it was so weird. And looking back, I'm like, that kid knew who the hell he was.

[Sashir]

Yes.

[Ally]

Like, that's awesome.

[Tessa]

Yeah.

[Sashir]

He was like, this is what I want to look like, this is what I listen to.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sashir]

I actually don't care if you have something to say about it. Yeah. I do love that I would wear to school these gigantic Steve Madden platforms. They were like 4 inches, 5 inches. They were huge. I couldn't walk in them. We would change classes, the bell would ring, and I would just be teetering

[Tessa]

alone in the hall.

[Ally]

Funny I give a fuck that I

[Sashir]

couldn't walk in them.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sashir]

And I suffered because I wouldn't bring a second pair of shoes. So, like, by the end of the day, I'd be, like, hobbling around.

[Ally]

So you did this to yourself? Sure did. Yeah.

[Sashir]

I remember my mom made me wear. I don't know why she made me wear this, but it was this, like, gray sweatsuit that I hated with, like, weird shapes on it. I would wear it now.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sashir]

But I was like, I don't want to wear this to school. And she was like, it looks fine. And I was like, I don't want it. But honestly, I'm having. I might be having selective memory. I might have begged her to buy it and then didn't want to wear it. Oh, so, like, maybe that's what it was.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sashir]

Because I can't remember. I'm like, why does she make me wear this? I cried. Oh, I was at. Nobody said a word to me. It was a fine ensemble.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sashir]

But I was like. The whole day was just mad.

[Ally]

Dang.

[Sashir]

Do you have anything that you wore where you see a picture and you're like, huh? Why? Why did I put that together?

[Ally]

Definitely. I mean, I had some real, like, we're figuring out moments. Like, I feel like most of my early outfits in New York was like, we're just figuring it out. We're not quite there yet. There were so many vests. There were. I. I remember there was a dress that I wore. It was in a Broad City video. It was like the finale of their web series or something like that. And I remember it was me and maybe Sabrina, Jaleese, I don't know. We were, like, standing on a street's corner or something. And Alana and Abby were supposed to, like, pass us and do something else. And they were, like, bopping around New York, and I don't know who I was talking to, but they're like, it's so crazy. They put you in that, like, matronly dress. And I was like.

[Sashir]

And you're like, I put myself in it.

[Tessa]

I put my.

[Ally]

I brought my own wardrobe.

[Tessa]

This was my outfit.

[Ally]

I thought I looked really good.

[Sashir]

That's really Funny.

[Tessa]

It was matronly. It was just this long sleeve, princess collar up to my neck, long dress. It was blue with flowers on it. But I thought, it looks so good,

[Sashir]

I gotta see it.

[Tessa]

I'd really like to see it.

[Ally]

Probably find it, but God, that's so funny. And then later I was like, I'll hem it. That's what I'll do.

[Tessa]

That's what. I'll fix it.

[Ally]

Making it shorter.

[Sashir]

That'll do it. That'll make it less matronly. So sure. That's so funny. We watched an old video that we had shot where I looked at it, and I was like, I've come full circle because I went out of my jewelry era. And I was like, I don't have any bracelets. I don't have any jewelry. And then I was watching that video, I was like, I had so much

[Ally]

jewelry, used to wear so many bracelets.

[Sashir]

I had no idea. I went through a watch face. I was wearing a watch.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sashir]

I couldn't believe it.

[Tessa]

I was like, this is. This is freaky deaky. Freaky deaky, freaky deaky.

[Sashir]

My God.

[Ally]

What do you think made you stop the jewelry phase?

[Sashir]

I'm 100% sure it is. Once I got very busy and then started touring and then was like, oh, I'm having trouble doing things. That's why the uniform appeared where I was like, I don't want to wear the same thing, but if I wear jeans and a striped shirt, I get my color in. But I. I don't have to think about it. Yeah. And I think I was like, well, I can retire jewelry. So that's the thing I don't have to think about. Oh. And now I'm like, well, I guess I'll just be slightly later so I

[Tessa]

can put on jewelry.

[Sashir]

Which that's not what it should be. I should just. It's so hard to get out of bed. But, like, in a perfect world, I would set aside a full hour to get ready so then I can, like, pick and choose the jewelry I want to wear. But also, when I was in my first jewelry phase, I wore the same thing.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sashir]

There was no variety. No variety. It was a zebra bracelet, two silver bracelets that I could not get off a bunch of bangles. And I was, oh, you know what? Maybe also I left my jewelry phase because when I finally lost enough weight to get them off of me, I

[Tessa]

was like, well, I'm free.

[Sashir]

Better not put anything else on my wrist.

[Tessa]

Yeah, get out of here. My God.

[Sashir]

No more shackles. No more take Those shackles off my

[Tessa]

wrist so I can dance. Just wanna praise it. Dom Daniels.

[Ally]

Tom Daniels.

[Sashir]

I can't believe that's how I reacted. I was so excited. I was in the company of people I don't know well. And it was that nice man's friends and one of his friends went, damn, Daniel. And I laughed so hard that it was maybe humiliating. Like, wasn't that funny?

[Tessa]

But now he knows, if he says it, I'll laugh. I will laugh so hard I'll cry. I'm almost crying now. Damn, Daniel's so funny to me. It's so funny to me. It's so funny to me. I just love the way that kiss sounds. Damn. Damn.

[Sashir]

It's so funny that sometimes people think I'm under the influence and I'm like, this is me.

[Tessa]

This is.

[Ally]

This is just who I am.

[Tessa]

Jennifer Lopez. This is who I am.

[Sashir]

What's it called?

[Ally]

This is me now.

[Sashir]

This is who I am.

[Tessa]

Jennifer Love is who I am. What are you talking about?

[Sashir]

You know, it's funny when we post clips from this show, sometimes people are really mean. Like the lotion video. But then sometimes people are mean, but then also helpful. So we posted a video where I talked about sewing and you were like, use tweezers to thread the needle. And I was like, oh my God. The comments all say, I have a self threading sewing machine.

[Ally]

Wow.

[Sashir]

I don't know how.

[Tessa]

I don't know how.

[Sashir]

And I, I simply, I simply can't bring myself to watch a video to figure out how it works.

[Ally]

Yeah, but you could. But some of those comments also were talking about a threader or whatever that's like tweezers.

[Sashir]

Yes. But if my, if my machine self threads, that would make my life so much easier.

[Ally]

Go watch that video.

[Sashir]

I guess I gotta watch that video.

[Ally]

I think I've done it before.

[Sashir]

Really?

[Ally]

I don't remember how though. I think I learned it in the sewing class. But yeah, you like bring the thread across or something and like twist the needle and it goes down and it picks it back up. But I don't remember how it does

[Sashir]

it because I have a foot or whatever at the back that brings the. Wait, the foot's. It's got to be in front of me for me to know anything that I'm talking about. But tonight I'm going to a sewing party.

[Ally]

Nice.

[Sashir]

So I'm going to bring up the question and let someone teach me.

[Ally]

I'll show you. Yes. Yes. Perfect.

[Sashir]

And my goal at sewing party is because I already have a pattern for pants. And I revisited a pair of pants that I made, and I was like, these are actually pretty good. I was, like, kind of upset about the quality. And I was like, actually, this quality is pretty good. You just have to, like, seam rip something, like a little bit of the band and redo that. But other than that, good job, girlfriend. But I want to make a pattern for a little jumpsuit.

[Tessa]

Ooh.

[Ally]

Yes.

[Sashir]

Because I do love a jumpsuit, and I love it.

[Tessa]

I think I could do it.

[Ally]

I think you could. And it'd be nice to do it in a way where it's like, okay, it's to my measurements. As opposed to, like, hoping somebody else can make a jumpsuit that fits you.

[Sashir]

Yes. And I bought a jumpsuit pattern, and I unfolded it and I went, I don't get it. And I folded it right back up.

[Ally]

I would imagine it's daunting.

[Sashir]

Put it right in a drawer.

[Ally]

It's a lot.

[Sashir]

So, yeah, that's what I'll be working on tonight.

[Ally]

Fun.

[Sashir]

I'm very excited.

[Ally]

It is exciting. Nice.

[Sashir]

I'm gonna be a sewer.

[Ally]

You are a sewer. Hey. Thank you. You've made many garments.

[Tessa]

I really have.

[Sashir]

You have.

[Ally]

You be sewing.

[Tessa]

I be sewing.

[Sashir]

I'm a designer.

[Ally]

What did. I was gonna say, Susan be sewing. What did Tessa say?

[Tessa]

What was it?

[Ally]

Oh, Susan B. Fluten.

[Sashir]

Yes. She's. She looked us dead in the eyes.

[Tessa]

Oh.

[Sashir]

Because she asked, did anyone play instruments growing up? And I said, the flute. And she went, susan B. Fluten.

[Tessa]

And I said, what the fuck are

[Sashir]

you saying to me?

[Tessa]

What does that mean?

[Ally]

And she's like, is this not a

[Tessa]

video we've all seen? She's like, this isn't on par with Yo Yo Ma.

[Sashir]

It was so funny. Tessa's so funny. She's very funny. Oh, my God. Sometimes I'm like, what if I take the whole day and sew something? I think I'm gonna have theme days.

[Ally]

That's fun.

[Sashir]

I was really proud of myself because I stayed. I was procrastinating all damn day. All damn day. Found so many fucking things to do. And one of them was, like, not being on my phone. And I don't know how I did that, but I was like, more. More of that.

[Ally]

More of that.

[Tessa]

More of that, please.

[Ally]

Yeah, give me two helpings of that, please.

[Tessa]

You're crushing me, Ted. I don't know why that was so funny to me.

[Sashir]

Oh, boy. We talked about your standup show in a prior episode or a future episode. I don't know when the fuck these

[Ally]

air,

[Sashir]

but you Said something, and it was just a setup, and there was

[Tessa]

silence, and I was like, ah.

[Sashir]

And then I was like, ooh, I gotta, like, be quiet.

[Ally]

You don't have to.

[Sashir]

Well, sometimes.

[Tessa]

Well, when you're just setting something up and it's not the funny part. And then I find that funny because

[Sashir]

I know you so well. No, you just. You should just keep it inside a little.

[Ally]

I'll take any laugh.

[Sashir]

Okay.

[Ally]

I think it's also, like, sometimes people just, like. Like, what's happening? And, like, even if you haven't gotten to the punchline, they're just like. Like, they're just, like, excited to get there.

[Sashir]

I'm like, hell, yeah.

[Ally]

Let's all laugh.

[Sashir]

I don't want to, like, give away a joke, but you talk about Tevas at one point, and you did this setup. I laughed real hard, turned to Tessa, and went, divas.

[Tessa]

And then you said the punchline with divas in it. And then I went.

[Ally]

That's why you chose not to laugh.

[Tessa]

Yes.

[Ally]

When the punchline happened, I'm glad that,

[Sashir]

like, the audience members are in the dark, because I was, like, psychotic.

[Ally]

I was like, that's really funny. I remember there was a JFL in Montreal.

[Tessa]

I remember this where I was doing

[Ally]

a show, and it was, like, kind

[Tessa]

of a small room, and you were

[Ally]

in the back, and your laugh was

[Tessa]

so prominent, and so, like, you would

[Ally]

laugh, and then everyone laugh. They would laugh at the joke, but also laugh at you laughing at the joke.

[Sashir]

That was fun. And people turned around and looked at

[Ally]

me, and I'd be like, I just.

[Sashir]

I know her. But also, I don't know. I love comedy so much that, like, watching people perform, I get really, like,

[Ally]

delighted by it, definitely.

[Sashir]

And then, you know, sometimes I'm just

[Ally]

laughing a little too hard, but that's okay. I'll take it.

[Sashir]

But it was wild that I, like, I whispered the.

[Tessa]

And then you said it, and I

[Sashir]

was, like, just emphatically nodding my head.

[Tessa]

Divas.

[Ally]

Oh, that's fun.

[Sashir]

Oh, boy. Is there anything that you. Because all of my special interests. I've included you on the journeys. Yeah. Did you ever decide to. Did you ever want to start sewing again? Because you do have a sewing machine, right?

[Ally]

I do have a sewing. Sewing machine. It's very dusty in my closet, but it's there. Yeah. I think we probably have the same issue of, like, having, like, having so many things you want to do, but just being like. But now I'm on this thing.

[Sashir]

I've moved on.

[Ally]

Yeah. I would like to sew again. I Don't know if I want to make clothes, but I would like to alter things. I have. I think it'd be a fun journey. And I went to remainders yesterday to buy some fabric to paste it onto my drawers in my closet.

[Tessa]

And.

[Ally]

And when I got there, I was like, I didn't measure. I don't. I have no idea how much fabric I need. So now I need to measure and then go back to get fabric and then do the thing I wanted to do. Yeah, I feel like there's always something around my house. I'm trying to, like, hang or attach to something.

[Sashir]

I. Man, I got a lot of special interests. Yeah, She's a farmer. Yeah. So I found. I found. I discovered this place called Armstrong Garden center, and I really like them. They're really knowledgeable, really helpful.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sashir]

Like, I just had a cart full of stuff, and this guy was like, oh, you got to put them in these little plant holders so you can just, like, carry them all when you get to your car. Also, I see you looking at tomatoes. You like an heirloom.

[Tessa]

And I was like, yeah, I'm looking for an heirloom. And he was like, the heirlooms are over here. And I was like, oh,

[Sashir]

I'm getting horny for customer service. Like, I was so elated that this man wanted to help me. I was like, what a fucking treat. Then I got home, and I was like, bitch, why didn't you ask for more help? So I have two plants that I looked at the little bin, and it said, partial sun. These plants, I was like, these are going in full sun. So I planted them and I went. God willing, you'll live.

[Ally]

Good luck to all of us.

[Sashir]

Good night and good luck.

[Tessa]

We gotta take a break.

[Ally]

Let's take a break.

[Sashir]

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[Ally]

Yeah, it's hard.

[Sashir]

It's so hard.

[Ally]

I also bought a frame. I did. What I did do at remainders was I bought a frame to put pressed flowers in. And I have so many pressed flowers in books waiting to be put somewhere. So I, you know, one day I'll jump back into that and start arranging. Press flowers and little designs and stuff and put it in a frame and either give it to somebody or keep

[Sashir]

it, I guess a lot of like. So like, when we were roller skating, it was like, that's an activity I go to.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sashir]

But it's like sewing or pressing flowers or lining your drawers. It's like, that's home.

[Tessa]

I'm home.

[Ally]

I'm home. And I don't anything else.

[Tessa]

I watch tv.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Tessa]

Go to sleep.

[Ally]

But once I do something, I'm like, that's so much nicer.

[Tessa]

I hung that thing on the wall,

[Ally]

and I feel so good about it. And I get to look at it all the time.

[Sashir]

Yes. When I hemmed a bunch of sweatshirts, I was like, I'm a little factory. I nimble hands. I'm doing it. And then I was like, well, that's one project done. Second project is since I'm into culottes and I don't wear dresses as much, I was Like, I think I can slice up the middle, sew that up. I think you can create some culottes.

[Ally]

I think you can.

[Sashir]

So that's the next project.

[Ally]

That's exciting.

[Sashir]

Thank you. I'm really excited about it. And then I have a pair of pants that I'm trying to combine to make one super pant.

[Tessa]

The biggest pan of all, the biggest pants you've ever seen,

[Sashir]

I think. Yeah. Jumpsuit pattern tonight. And then try to combine those pants with these pants combined.

[Tessa]

What am I thinking of?

[Ally]

With our powers combined.

[Sashir]

Captain Planet.

[Ally]

Yes. Yes, yes, yes, yes.

[Sashir]

Wow. We were fed a lot of, like,

[Ally]

save the planet stuff, and they said no more.

[Sashir]

Yeah.

[Ally]

The planet is that crazy. I know.

[Sashir]

Yeah.

[Ally]

I love that stuff. I was like, I loved cabin plants so much, and I would be so annoying to my parents. I'd be like, we have to recycle, reduce, reuse, recycle. And they're like, just put in the trash.

[Sashir]

My God, that's so funny. I. Yeah. I loved Captain Planet. The Captain Planet. Come on, like, normal channels. It must have, because I watched it.

[Ally]

I think it did maybe ABC or something. I feel like it was, like, Saturday

[Sashir]

morning cartoons, because sometimes I'm like, how do I know it? I didn't grow up with cable.

[Ally]

I was different.

[Tessa]

Yeah. I'm just built different.

[Ally]

Also, I, like. I recently looked back at pictures of Captain Planet because they're rebooting it, and I was like, ooh, like, who? Who did it before? And I thought Gaia, who was, like, the, like, Earth goddess. I thought she was a black woman, and she's just, like, ethnically ambiguous or maybe white in the cartoon. Oh, but she was voiced by Whoopi Goldberg, and that's when my brain thought she was black.

[Sashir]

Interesting.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sashir]

Voice representation matters. It matters. Do you mind, Ally, pulling up the cast of Captain Planet? Not the cast. I don't remember what they look like, but Captain Planet is a blue man.

[Ally]

He's a blue man. Yeah.

[Sashir]

With green hair. Yes.

[Ally]

That's why you know exactly what's going on.

[Sashir]

I sure do. His face is the sea, the ocean, and his head.

[Ally]

His hair is the Earth, the land. It's pretty funny. And then, like, there was fire, who was a redheaded kid. Water was a blue.

[Sashir]

I'm so sorry. This man from Pompeii looks like he's got a Jerry curl. I just.

[Tessa]

I just needed you.

[Ally]

Was that Kit Harrington?

[Sashir]

I have no idea.

[Ally]

Captain Planet. Look at all those happy kids.

[Sashir]

Oh, interesting, interesting. There's one black kid.

[Ally]

Yes. That's Earth.

[Sashir]

And then there's an indigenous friend.

[Ally]

Yeah. He was heart.

[Sashir]

Yes.

[Ally]

And he had a monkey friend.

[Tessa]

Oh, my God. I can't believe how much of Captain Planet you remember.

[Ally]

Watched a lot of it.

[Sashir]

Is it coming back as a live action or a cartoon?

[Ally]

I don't actually know.

[Sashir]

Bring it fucking back, though. Like, let's not litter. Let's have a nice time.

[Ally]

We need to save Planet desperately now more than ever.

[Sashir]

Yeah.

[Tessa]

We got AI eating up all the water. It's crazy. Why does AI eat water?

[Sashir]

Because it's just so hot.

[Ally]

Those computers are so damn hot.

[Nicole]

The new version is going to be live action.

[Sashir]

Oh, that's fun.

[Ally]

Oh, are they talking to Glen Powell about it?

[Sashir]

Oh, interesting. He's discouraging it. He's like, I like littering.

[Ally]

Okay.

[Sashir]

Oh, interesting. What year is that from? Is it recent? 2025.

[Ally]

This year or last year?

[Sashir]

Last year.

[Ally]

Okay.

[Tessa]

Okay.

[Sashir]

All right.

[Nicole]

Leonardo DiCaprio producing.

[Ally]

Oh, he loves the plan.

[Tessa]

He loves Satan. I took my breath away. I don't know why. Oh, he loves the planet. And it was just so quick. Oh, Leonard. Oh, he loves the planet. That was really funny.

[Sashir]

Wait.

[Tessa]

Leonardo DiCaprio looked so hot at the Oscars.

[Ally]

Did you see we had a little mustache?

[Tessa]

Yes.

[Ally]

Yeah, I liked it.

[Tessa]

I thought, Good.

[Ally]

Sakurae Blue.

[Sashir]

He looks so good.

[Ally]

It looked really good. Yeah.

[Tessa]

Wow.

[Sashir]

Yeah. Also, Michael B. Jordan looks so good. Yeah, he's so handsome. Wow.

[Ally]

I'm really happy for him.

[Sashir]

Me too. I'm very, very happy for him because he's been. He's been working for so long.

[Tessa]

Like, what's wrong with me?

[Ally]

Well, there was a thing that HBO did to be like, congratulations on your Oscar, Michael B. Jordan. And they put like, different scenes from the Wire next to Sinners. And it was like.

[Sashir]

It was.

[Ally]

It was really well edited. Just like. Like their same head movements then like little motions and stuff like that. And they're like, we're proud of you. And I was like, I don't think HBO has ever done that before.

[Tessa]

They had a lot of people go

[Ally]

on their shows, probably won awards. But also, I think it, like you said, it's like, been 20 years of a career.

[Sashir]

He, before the Wire was in an episode of Sopranos. He was like a kid on the street. And I was like, michael B. Jordan.

[Ally]

Oh, that's fun.

[Sashir]

He's been working for a long time. He's been, uh. Oh, what's the song I'm trying to do?

[Ally]

Coming round the Corner. Winnie. What?

[Sashir]

Is that what you're doing? No. Working on the railroad? Nope. Wait, there's a railroad song.

[Tessa]

Working at the car wash he's chugging on the railroad There's a railroad, railroad

[Sashir]

he's been working on the railroad Working

[Tessa]

all the live long day what? How do I know that?

[Ally]

I've been working on the railroad all

[Tessa]

the livelong day well, you got.

[Ally]

I've been laying on the railroad Till the sun. No. Till the moon passed away hey.

[Tessa]

Jingle bells, jingle bells. Sure. This episode is really so the nice man in my life. He goes. So he goes.

[Sashir]

Just.

[Tessa]

He goes. This podcast is just YouTube, like, just saying short things and then, like, really laughing. And I was like, huh? And people like it. Can you believe people like, jingle bells, jingle bells I think I've cried three times this episode. You're killing me. Oh, the last long day hey. Jingle bells, jingle bells oh, my God. What if you were DJ and the beat dropped? Everyone's like, jingle bells. We gotta go to a club.

[Sashir]

I've been dying to go to a club.

[Tessa]

Let's go to a club.

[Ally]

Wow.

[Tessa]

We just made ourselves laugh so hard. We had to fan ourselves. Like, I'm exhausted. Oh, I'm so hot.

[Ally]

There are like, can we turn the air up?

[Tessa]

I'm dying. Yeah, I'm dying. I'm dying.

[Sashir]

You went.

[Ally]

What were you saying? Oh, there are clubs, or I guess they're not clubs, but coffee shops are doing, like, DJ stuff during the day. And I think that's my speech.

[Sashir]

Okay.

[Ally]

Like a daytime club situation. Yes.

[Sashir]

I like that. But I would like some booze. And do they have the booze?

[Ally]

Probably. Oh, there's probably bars that do it too.

[Sashir]

See, daytime clubbing does sound like fun.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sashir]

Until you do it in Vegas and you're like, no, it's bad.

[Ally]

Well, that's a different.

[Sashir]

During the day, these people are crap.

[Tessa]

They're wild.

[Ally]

Because they never stopped.

[Sashir]

No, because they're, like, cracked.

[Tessa]

I'll be like, you want hugs Benedict?

[Ally]

And you're like, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Sashir]

But yeah, I think I. I haven't been dancing in a minute.

[Ally]

Let's go dancing.

[Sashir]

I would really like that.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sashir]

With, like, good music. You remember when we went to Barcelona?

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sashir]

And we went to Jamboree.

[Ally]

Yes.

[Tessa]

Yes.

[Sashir]

Oh, good recall.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sashir]

They. It was us. We got there early because Europe is like, oh, we're not out until 1am yeah. But we were there at, like, 11 or something. Yeah. And the DJ was playing fucking some of the best music. And there was a black guy right by the DJ booth with every song kept going.

[Tessa]

Oh, wow.

[Sashir]

And I was like, I'm right There with you.

[Ally]

I agree. It was so fun.

[Sashir]

Yeah, that was fun.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sashir]

Yeah. I want to dance.

[Ally]

Let's dance.

[Sashir]

I did see Lady Gaga again.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sashir]

And I wore heels.

[Ally]

Oh.

[Sashir]

And by heels, I mean 2 inches block, not a real heel. And I danced my little face off. And I could not walk after.

[Tessa]

Damn.

[Sashir]

It was. So I sent you the video. Oh, yes, you did. That's how I was walking. And it wasn't a bit like, I really was like, there's. I. I can't. And that's how I walked in the hallways at school with those platforms because it was tough.

[Ally]

Did you have socks on?

[Sashir]

With my shoes?

[Ally]

Yes. I have sometimes taken my shoes off at a concert and just wore my socks. We're not outside.

[Sashir]

At Sofi. You want you.

[Ally]

Mm, mm. I may have done it at Sofi.

[Sashir]

Mm, mm. You want me. Mm, mm. Feet to the. Mm, mm. People spill, and the spills travel.

[Ally]

If a spill traveled, for sure, I put my shoes back on.

[Sashir]

But what if it traveled before you got your shoes back on and now the spill that has traveled to you is now traveled inside your shoe, and you're gonna bring that spill home.

[Ally]

Okay.

[Sashir]

I mean, I have seen you take your shoes off at shows. You did it at Missy Elliott, I think. And I looked down and I said, hey.

[Ally]

And you went, you gotta be comfy.

[Sashir]

I really can't at Lady Gaga, though. There was a Lady Dogs out. Feet to the floor, to the earth.

[Ally]

No, I can't do that.

[Sashir]

That made me really upset. Yeah, I did not like that. But no, it was boots, too. And I was like, you made me bring a clear fanny pack. I don't have anywhere to put these. I gotta wear these boots.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sashir]

Yeah. No, my luck would have it that, like, someone would barf and that would travel to me. Like, I have no my. I'm so scared right now.

[Tessa]

You're holding your feet right now. No one's coming for your feet. They're coming. Coming for my toes.

[Ally]

No, I understand. I get it.

[Sashir]

It's not for everyone.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sashir]

But yeah, I want to dance and I want to wear heels while I do it, which is. Which means I have to, like, cap it to, like, an hour. I want to wear heels more.

[Tessa]

Okay.

[Sashir]

I want to look down at people.

[Ally]

Yeah. Get tall. Get tall, girl.

[Tessa]

Yeah. You little idiots down there.

[Ally]

I mean, you do have many, like, tall, like, chunky boots that so many don't seem like heels. You can be tall that way.

[Sashir]

Yeah.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sashir]

Although on Saturday, I wore a big chunky heel, and I almost died.

[Ally]

Oh.

[Sashir]

But I was also wearing a pant. It was like a 5 inch heel and my pants were, like, getting under the heel and I was like, why these pants so long?

[Ally]

Those are very long pants.

[Tessa]

Why they so long?

[Sashir]

Lord Jesus.

[Ally]

I almost tripped up the stairs on my dang pants. On my jeans? No, my bell bottom ones. My foot caught into the bottom of one and I almost took me out and I was like, on my own pants. On my own stairs with my own foot. The hell.

[Tessa]

All of my own things. My own things coming to get me.

[Sashir]

That's like when I fell down my stairs and broke my dang ankle.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sashir]

In my own house.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sashir]

On my own dress. Yeah. Rude. Yeah. But now.

[Tessa]

Ooh wee.

[Sashir]

The way I go downstairs is carefully. I'm sure anywhere I am, I am being careful. You're not gonna get me. I'm not falling down the stairs again.

[Ally]

I still think you should put those little, like, pads on the tops of your stairs.

[Sashir]

I won't. Just aesthetically, no.

[Ally]

There's some cute ones.

[Sashir]

Aesthetically, I can't. All right. But also, I walk around my house. Dogs to the earth.

[Ally]

Oh, that's true. I wear socks.

[Sashir]

Yes. And when I carry things, what happened is the dress was long and I slipped under it. So when I carry things. And that could have happened on a carpeted stair as well.

[Ally]

That's true.

[Sashir]

I think it was just, you know, the slickness made it easier. But yeah, I'm more careful when I carry things up and down the stairs. And I yell at Clyde to go first because he likes to get under my feet when I walk down the stairs. He really just loves being under my feet. But then if you step on him, he makes the. The most insufferable noise.

[Ally]

It's like, well, you put yourself.

[Sashir]

You did it. Yeah, but he's also such a little guy.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sashir]

Imagine being that little. I can't imagine. Imagine you had to crawl around everywhere. That's basically what he does.

[Ally]

Oh, if you think about it, yeah, it's true.

[Sashir]

But he's not really crawling. His legs are just so short.

[Ally]

That's just how his legs are.

[Tessa]

Imagine being a dog.

[Ally]

I can't.

[Sashir]

Me either. What a crazy life.

[Tessa]

We gotta take a break. Have you thought more about being a dog?

[Ally]

I haven't, but that's how my cat is too. Like, he'll just get up in your business all the time. If you're trying to pack a suitcase, he'll jump in. And I'm like, what are you doing? Get out. No, it's not for you.

[Sashir]

Why are You.

[Ally]

Why are you my pillow? Now? Get out of here. Why?

[Tessa]

Why?

[Ally]

Just everywhere you want him to not be, that's where.

[Sashir]

That's where he's gonna be.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sashir]

Clyde also loves getting into suitcases. And then he sits and he stares. And I'm like, well, get out. Get out.

[Tessa]

What are you doing?

[Ally]

It's not for you.

[Sashir]

He also. He loves a bag.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sashir]

He loves a box.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sashir]

And I like putting him in a box and just closing the lid. And then when he's ready, he'll go. And then it looks like he's like, jack in the box.

[Ally]

That's cute. That's very cute.

[Sashir]

Yeah. What a cutie. I love him so much.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sashir]

Sometimes I hug him and squeeze him, and I'm like, don't you. Do you know how much I love you?

[Ally]

I'm sure he does.

[Sashir]

I hope he does.

[Ally]

I think he does.

[Sashir]

Back to my farm. Oh, yes. Okay. So did you know, like, planting things has instructions?

[Ally]

Oh, well, I do now. I didn't before, so.

[Sashir]

Home Depot. Shame on them. Big Box Corporation. I'm not going back. Oh, they don't give you instructions. It does not say anywhere how to plant things. Because they want you to come back, spend more money.

[Ally]

Definitely.

[Sashir]

But Armstrong Garden center is here to help you. They're not paying me at all.

[Tessa]

It feels like I'm doing, like, that partnership or something.

[Sashir]

But on the side of all of the plants, it's like, oh, this does well, like, 12 inches from the other plant. And I was like, oh, shit. I only got one pot. So I went, well, you're all going.

[Tessa]

You're going in there together.

[Ally]

I think it's like, instructions will definitely help them. But also, plants be growing wherever. Like, they'll find a way. I've had many plants that I thought were straight up dead. And I sent you videos where I'm like, look at this thing. It's a. It's.

[Tessa]

This is a metaphor for resiliency. I thought this thing was dead, and I know. It came back. It came back. It just needed time.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sashir]

So.

[Ally]

And then also, like, things where it's like, this is not supposed to go in this area, but it survived for some reason, or I thought everything was set up for success for some reason. It does not like being there. And so you move it, and then it's better. It's just like, it'll happen or it won't.

[Sashir]

You're right.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sashir]

You're right. And I'm all, okay, do you see this? This cut? Oh, that cut. Oh, I gotta. I think some I don't remember. The other ones are.

[Ally]

That one.

[Sashir]

Oh, yeah, that's one.

[Ally]

Who's doing that to you?

[Tessa]

Did Who?

[Sashir]

Who did that? It's happening in my own home.

[Tessa]

Who. Who did that?

[Sashir]

The bu.

[Tessa]

The.

[Sashir]

Yes. That's how you say it. I.

[Ally]

They are scratchy.

[Sashir]

Oh, my God. I did not realize how thorny they are. I'm trying to train them to grow up, so I was like, I'll just tie them to the branches behind them.

[Tessa]

These bitches ate me up.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Tessa]

Oh, my God.

[Ally]

We do that.

[Tessa]

They just.

[Sashir]

And then at one point, the one that you pointed out.

[Ally]

Mm.

[Sashir]

I think my. I was, like, stuck to it, and I was like, no. Oh, God. And I had to, like, rip it. Oof.

[Ally]

Yeah. Wear gloves and long sleeves.

[Sashir]

I was in a bikini, like, gloveless. The way I garden is disgusting. I do have a shovel, and I do have scissors. And if something's dyed but the roots are deep, I, like, cut it up barehanded, scoop it out, and dig it out. Whoa. Because my nails help. They're little diggers. I got 10 diggers.

[Tessa]

That sounded like a slur.

[Sashir]

Yikes.

[Ally]

Girl, you can't just say that.

[Tessa]

It came out of my mouth, and

[Sashir]

I was like, oh.

[Tessa]

It felt really rude to myself.

[Ally]

Hard R and everything.

[Tessa]

I got 10 shovels.

[Ally]

I actually did buy some gloves like that. They had, like, little, like, claws on them so that you could dig. They sucked, though. They were not good. Yeah, I could imagine. Yeah.

[Sashir]

That's really funny, though.

[Ally]

It's like you're like badger or something. But they weren't very strong. It was, like, plastic.

[Sashir]

That's so funny. Yeah. I've broken nails and, like, reglued them. Put a band aid over it and went back to digging.

[Ally]

Girl, use a shovel. You have tools? I have shovels, yes.

[Sashir]

I have two shovels.

[Ally]

Use them.

[Sashir]

And then I have a pick. A pickaxe.

[Ally]

Oh, not an axe. Where are they? Where are they stored? Oh, where do you have them?

[Sashir]

Outside.

[Ally]

They're outside. So you really have no excuse.

[Sashir]

I didn't know if they were, like,

[Ally]

in an inaccessible place or something.

[Sashir]

Nope, they're outside. They're really, really in close. Like, a very close proximity to where I was working.

[Ally]

I see.

[Sashir]

I think what happens. I go, hmm, Getting the shovel and shoveling. That's gonna take too long.

[Tessa]

Dig, dig, dig. I've done it. There's no time. There's no time. I have to garden. I'm a farmer. Tick tock, Mr. Wick. Everyone needs their strawberries. I was meeting that nice man and his friends.

[Sashir]

And I was running late, and I sent a text that was like, I'm sorry. I'm running late. I put on too much blush. I felt humiliated. I had to tone it down. Also, I was about. I was going to bring strawberries. They're not sweet. It's not in season, But I forgot them. I turned around, but then I turned around. I'm on my way. And he just went, okay. I keep trying to bring these strawberries to people who are like, hey, wait

[Tessa]

till they're in season.

[Ally]

That's really funny.

[Tessa]

And I'm like, I won't.

[Sashir]

I simply won't.

[Ally]

I have bad strawberries for you.

[Sashir]

I have. Because they maybe. I don't know. Maybe it's like, heat helps them grow and be sweet. But these strawberries, they're not sweet. Oh, I'm doing something wrong.

[Ally]

Oh, no.

[Sashir]

But what did I buy? I bought two cucumbers.

[Ally]

Okay.

[Sashir]

I bought. I think they're called Beefy Boys. Beefy Boy Tomatoes. A black heirloom. A regular heirloom. I bought these strawberries. I think they're called Seascape or Escape something. But those are really sweet. I've had those before. And the farm is back up and running. Nice.

[Ally]

Hell, yeah.

[Sashir]

Oh, God, yeah. That's smart. When I did the. In the backyard, along the. Like, the wall, I did wear long sleeves and gloves because it's very, very outside, and sometimes there's worms in there.

[Ally]

Ooh.

[Sashir]

And, like, buggies.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sashir]

And I'm like, I don't want to be touching a buggy.

[Ally]

No, I don't be touching those.

[Sashir]

The first time I cleared them out, John Milhiser, who used to live with me, we found potatoes. These, like, really beautiful purple potatoes.

[Tessa]

What?

[Sashir]

Yeah. And I was like, did they plant potatoes?

[Ally]

Oh, probably.

[Sashir]

Yeah, maybe. And there might still be potatoes in.

[Ally]

Check.

[Sashir]

I don't remember which box. Which planter box they were in.

[Ally]

Get your diggers in there.

[Tessa]

Get your diggers in there. This sounded like a slur. It really does. Get your diggers in there.

[Sashir]

We were gonna eat the potatoes, but then we were like, we don't know if they're potatoes.

[Ally]

Did you slice it?

[Sashir]

No.

[Ally]

What'd you do? They just threw it away.

[Sashir]

Threw them away because I didn't plant them, and I didn't know if they had planted them, and there was no way to know if they did. Even though I have the people who used to live there, I have their numbers. I should text them and see how they are. Yeah. Hey, guys.

[Tessa]

What's going on?

[Ally]

I'm sure they would love that.

[Sashir]

Do you miss your old house? You want to come back?

[Tessa]

Let's have a birdie.

[Ally]

They would love that.

[Sashir]

I have a question that maybe you would know the answer to. If I were to rent an inflatable house and put it in the cul de sac, would I have to get a street permit for it, or is this is the cul de sac for everyone?

[Ally]

I feel like you do have to get a street permit because it's also, like, blocking traffic. Oh, if it's on your property, no. But I think in the street, probably. Ally, did you find anything?

[Tessa]

Yes.

[Nicole]

You need a street permit or a special event permit to put a bouncy house on a public street, sidewalk, or city property, and it's minimum $50 in Los Angeles.

[Sashir]

Oh, wait a minute. That's affordable.

[Ally]

That's affordable.

[Sashir]

Yeah. I can just charge everyone a dollar for coming to the bouncy house.

[Ally]

You gotta charge us.

[Tessa]

I gotta recoup.

[Sashir]

I gotta recoup on that permit.

[Ally]

You can spring $50.

[Tessa]

So here, I gotta recoup.

[Sashir]

You want me to pay for our joy? No, I wouldn't charge, but I was like, ooh, maybe for Fourth of July, because I love doing a great big party.

[Tessa]

Yeah.

[Sashir]

Maybe I get a bouncy house or something.

[Ally]

I love that.

[Sashir]

Right? I think that would be really fun.

[Ally]

Yeah, I like that. Do it. Do it.

[Sashir]

Yeah, I think I might. I wonder if. Can you. Can you have alcohol on the streets if you do?

[Tessa]

Party time.

[Ally]

Let's get fucked up and bounce on the street.

[Tessa]

Bouncing in the street.

[Nicole]

Yes.

[Sashir]

Whoa.

[Nicole]

You can have a special permit for festivals, parades, or designated entertainment zones.

[Sashir]

Okay.

[Nicole]

So. And then you'd be able to drink in public legally within there.

[Sashir]

Okay.

[Ally]

All right.

[Sashir]

I think that might be really fun.

[Ally]

I think it'd be fun, too. Yeah. Dancing in the street.

[Sashir]

And maybe I'll set up a slip and slide.

[Ally]

Yes.

[Sashir]

I wonder if they have, like, inflatable slip and slides, because you don't want to put a slip and slide on concrete.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sashir]

Huh.

[Ally]

Probably.

[Sashir]

This is perfect.

[Tessa]

Time to start planning.

[Ally]

Yes. Did you see?

[Tessa]

I did the math to get to

[Sashir]

how many months away it is.

[Ally]

You didn't say out loud, though. Boy.

[Nicole]

And yes, you can get inflatable ones.

[Ally]

Oh, perfect.

[Sashir]

I think I'm gonna get a bouncy house in an inflatable slip and slide and be like. Because then I can double the invite list. Yes.

[Ally]

Hang outside.

[Tessa]

Yes.

[Ally]

And you can put chairs and stuff in the driveway.

[Tessa]

Y.

[Sashir]

Wow. This is gonna be really fun.

[Ally]

Yes.

[Sashir]

I can't wait.

[Ally]

I Can't wait either.

[Sashir]

I have a block party.

[Ally]

Yes. Rock the Block.

[Sashir]

Rock the Block, which was an HGTV show.

[Ally]

That's right.

[Sashir]

It went down in quality as seasons went on.

[Ally]

Dang.

[Sashir]

It's a real bummer because it's such a fun promise for a show.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sashir]

I feel like shows feel like they have to, like, push the boundary and give you more than we gave you last season. But I'm like, I don't know. I think if you get interesting people to do your same idea, they'll come at a different way.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sashir]

Like Leanne Ford on the first season of Rock the Block. She's, like, kind of stony all the time. Sony baloney with her. Her brother who builds things, and they're really fun. And she was redesigning this kitchen. She was like, you know what? No whitewash this rock. And I'm not putting a refrigerator in this kitchen.

[Ally]

Oh.

[Sashir]

I'm build a whole room where all the appliances are. Also no shelving.

[Ally]

Wow.

[Sashir]

She said, I'm gonna build a kitchen that is not functional but very aesthetically pleasing. And I'm like, yeah, don't give them bigger houses. Get more interesting designers to do things that you wouldn't expect. But then they got into a partnership with a bigger company, and they supply all of the things, and I'm like, I let them source their own stuff. And I want to see. I want to see a Ferris wheel in, like, a living room. Like, I want to see something weird where the Ferris wheel is the sofa and you have to watch TV as you go around. Like, I want to see someone's Looney Tunes ideas. Do you know what I mean? Like, that is a treat for me.

[Ally]

I like that.

[Sashir]

Don't like bigger houses. Like, no, give them a four bedroom house and go, whatever you want. Like, I want to see chandeliers on the floor. Like, I just want to see weird shit.

[Ally]

That's a funny.

[Sashir]

I mean, they came up with it, but they just didn't follow through with it.

[Ally]

Mm. Damn. You know?

[Sashir]

Yeah, I love hgtv, but I don't love what HGTV has done for interior design.

[Ally]

That's like their whole thing.

[Tessa]

I mean.

[Sashir]

Well, yes, yes and no. I think.

[Ally]

Oh, there are gardens, too. Home and garden tv. Is that not what it's called? Shit, man.

[Sashir]

It is.

[Ally]

Shit, man.

[Tessa]

It is. I think it's home and garden television.

[Sashir]

I was.

[Tessa]

What are you saying to me? They should show more garden stuff?

[Ally]

Yeah. Where's the garden stuff?

[Tessa]

Yes.

[Sashir]

Show me how to make, like, a. Like, if I'm doing Planter boxes. Show me an arrangement, like, what flowers grow well with one another. Yeah, hgtv. Get on it.

[Ally]

Get on it.

[Sashir]

There's farmers out there like me who go to Armstrong Garden center and don't know what they're looking for.

[Ally]

That's true.

[Sashir]

And if HGTV showed me, I could go to Armstrong Garden center and know exactly what to do at Armstrong Garden Center.

[Ally]

This is a long commercial for Armstrong Garden.

[Tessa]

People are like, I actually don't want to go. She's making it so weird.

[Sashir]

But that's really interesting. I forgot that. Like, I think I'm feeling very nostalgic for, like, simple things where, like, yeah, just show me somebody gardening. Just show that to me. Yeah, I'll watch it. Or like, Food Network in a gardener. Like I, I, I. The Barefoot Contessa.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sashir]

Just show her making potato soup. I like that.

[Ally]

Me too.

[Sashir]

Where she talks to me calmly and I go, maybe I can do that.

[Ally]

Or Bob Ross painting happy little trees. Yes. So calming.

[Sashir]

Oh, my God. We got to return to basics.

[Ally]

That'd be nice.

[Sashir]

Mm.

[Ally]

She answers some questions.

[Sashir]

No, I want to keep chatting about Armstrong Gardens.

[Ally]

No. Yes.

[Nicole]

Hey, nns. I recently confessed to a close friend via email that I had feelings for her. I did not expect her to return my feelings, as she does have a boyfriend. I only wanted her to know how special and important she was to me, and I told her this. Later. We had a conversation about it where she told me she still wants to be friends, and I believe at least part of her meant it. But naturally, things are different now, and I don't quite feel as close to her as I did before. I suppose I don't expect things to go back to how they were, especially since she did tell her boyfriend, who I have nothing against but is a strong contender for being the most boring man alive. I can't help but feel like maybe she just said that to keep the peace in our friend group, which doesn't make sense to me because I'm the newcomer and was only ever really close to her. I guess my question is, was I wrong for telling her how I felt? And do you think there's a way for us to be close again? I just really miss my friend and singing partner. Love the show and keep up the good work. Anonymous.

[Ally]

Who were the other friends? Like, you didn't have another friend to say to, like, workshop this way?

[Sashir]

Yes, I agree. Because once you tell somebody something like that, it does change things. Like, you don't want to lead somebody on, and if you don't Reciprocate it. It does. Even if you're not even trying to. You're like, I feel like I'm leading you on. Like, it's hard to just be friends, knowing that about somebody. And I think anytime you're gonna, like, reveal to a friend that you got feelings, you gotta ask yourself a question. Why am I doing it? And what response am I expecting?

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sashir]

Because I think the response is always. They're gonna magically say they feel the same thing about me.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sashir]

But it's like, if they're already partnered, that magic. That magic isn't gonna happen. It might, but, like, it probably won't. Yeah.

[Ally]

You're kind of just creating a sticky situation for yourself and for them.

[Sashir]

Like.

[Ally]

Yeah. Yeah. Because they're in. They're in a relationship.

[Sashir]

Yeah.

[Ally]

And it's kind of not nice to.

[Sashir]

Yes.

[Ally]

To put that on them if they were single. If they, like. Yeah, go for it, Go for it. Because you never know.

[Sashir]

Yeah.

[Ally]

But it's like, well, they're can't do anything about this right now. And I guess, like, who knows what could happen in the future? Maybe the relationship will end and maybe they'll. Maybe they do have those same feelings and they can act on them, but they can't now.

[Sashir]

Yeah.

[Ally]

And so now what? You just pretend that this didn't happen?

[Sashir]

Like, yeah, I think that's a little tough. I. Maybe I'm like, maybe another talk is in order. But it's like. But then I feel like as the other person, I'd be like, oh, my God. We're just gonna keep having a series of, like, long talks.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sashir]

But, like, maybe it's like. Maybe you're like, I didn't mean to make things weird between us. I guess I've been trying to be more honest with my friends, and I didn't really think of what the outcome actually meant. I don't wish to act. I don't know. I don't know. Because that's too much.

[Ally]

It's too much. I think you just gotta move towns. Yeah.

[Sashir]

Different identity and start over again. Start a different singing group.

[Ally]

I mean, if it. Maybe this person needed to get this off their chest because it was truly torturing them.

[Sashir]

Yes.

[Ally]

And they. It was, like, keeping them up at night. So I hope you do feel better that you got off your chest, but you have to be okay with whatever happens after. Like, it's not in your control, like, how this person feels now that the information's out there. Like, it's out there, and people can feel however they feel. About it and I hope you guys can stay friends. But things are different.

[Sashir]

Yeah.

[Ally]

Because things. You have said it out loud. So, like, there's really nothing you can do to, like, fix it. It just hopefully time. Hopefully, maybe like more normal hangs.

[Sashir]

Yes.

[Ally]

Will make it feel more normal.

[Sashir]

Quickly get a partner yourself and then be like, look, I love you.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sashir]

I love Jim.

[Ally]

And maybe your friend will be so jealous, they'll break up with their boring boyfriend and then come and be like,

[Tessa]

actually, I love you. I love you always and forever me.

[Sashir]

Yeah. I mean, I think you're right. I think it's just like cause and effect. You did something that was the effect. That sucks. But bravo for being brave.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sashir]

And that was something you wanted to get off your chest and you did so, like, feel really great about that. But, you know, it might take some time to, like, repair or your relationship might just be different and that's okay too, because relationships do evolve.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Tessa]

Yeah.

[Sashir]

Evolution, you dinosaur.

[Ally]

Evolution, you dinosaur.

[Nicole]

Hi, Nicole. Hi, Sashir. I have a friendship dating quandary and I'd love to get your. I'd love to get your advice. I was friends with this guy all of last year and low key had a crush on him. I decided to be brave and ruined the friendship and kissed him at a party, which led to us hooking up that night. We went on a few dates after that. On the first date, I told him I was interested in a relationship if things trend well between us. And he told me that he liked me but that he was a officially planning to move out of LA in a few months. We went on two more dates and it felt like I got mixed signals from him. Everything was great when we were together in person. He paid for the dates, great conversation, holding hands, but he didn't initiate a single date or ever text me. First. I told him that I was okay with dating until he leaves for the new city in three months. But he ultimately ended things with me, saying that he didn't want to get more romantically invested when he's about to move away. He said that he had a good time with me and that he would like to continue hanging out as friends. I chose to take some space as I know that I still have strong romantic feelings for him. It's been a little over a month now since all this went down, but it's been absolutely haunting me. What does it mean when someone offers to continue being friends after ending a relationship? Does it mean that they never really liked you as anything other than a friend? Does it mean that they do like you and want to keep the door open.

[Ally]

Open.

[Nicole]

Is it really possible to return to being friends with someone when the what if will always plague your mind? I would like to be his friend again. So how do I get over my feelings for him? Should I reach out before he moves to get some clarity and let him know we can continue being friends? All advice is appreciated. I vented about this to everyone I know, and everyone seems to have a different opinion on the situation. So I need advice from the professionals.

[Sashir]

I think this is clearly a situation of someone tasting something that they didn't know if they would like. They taste it and they said, this is fine. I just don't think I'm gonna eat any more of it. But it can stay on the table. Which sounds dismissive and rude, but I think this. I think he was like, I don't know. Let's see if this works. And I think he was like, it doesn't work, but I do actually value your friendship. I don't think he likes our listener.

[Ally]

That's possible. But also, even if he liked her, he's moving regardless.

[Sashir]

Yes.

[Ally]

So I think he was also like, this just won't happen.

[Sashir]

Yes.

[Ally]

Like, I can't even allow myself to let this happen because I am moving. So we. And maybe because the listener was straight up, like, I'm willing to have a relationship. And he's like, well, I can't. Like, I just. I simply cannot. And maybe he's. Maybe it was a situation where he's down to have fun. Like, he does enjoy your time. Like, he want.

[Sashir]

He went on the dates.

[Ally]

Like, he does want to hang out with you.

[Sashir]

He also didn't initiate any of the dates. So it's like, I'm happy to. I'm happy to taste this tuna tartar. I don't want to keep eating the tuna tartar.

[Tessa]

Stay on the table. I'm really trying to make this metaphor work.

[Ally]

You are the tasting and leaving on the table.

[Sashir]

I think he was down to clown.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sashir]

But ultimately was like, not joining the circus.

[Ally]

I'm just a part time clown. I do not want to commit.

[Sashir]

But I think you're right. He's moving. So he's like, and I don't want to be in a long distance relationship.

[Ally]

So. Yeah.

[Sashir]

Yeah. And I think if you have romantic feelings for somebody and they're like, we can still be friends. I don't think you should do that because why torture yourself for a couple months?

[Ally]

It's torture.

[Sashir]

And then maybe. Will it happen? No, it won't.

[Ally]

It simply Won't.

[Sashir]

Yeah. He said, no, it's not going to. I don't want to be in a long distance relationship is essentially what he said.

[Ally]

And maybe the friends or the leaving it on the table also is like. Like, I'm willing to hook up.

[Sashir]

It is absolutely what that means. I am willing to be friends with benefits for a little bit. Or it means, sure, I like you. I also don't want to hurt your feelings.

[Ally]

Yeah. Because you already told me you like me and want to be in a relationship. Yeah.

[Sashir]

Yeah. I think. I think get romantic thoughts out of your head. If you want to hang out with this person, do it as a friend. But, like, don't expect anything more. Do not let yourself take a ride of what ifs, because that's not what reality is.

[Ally]

No.

[Sashir]

But also, I think if you. I honestly, from personal experience, I think if you have romantic feelings for somebody and they go, let's just be friends, it hurts your feelings. Or my feelings would get hurt really easily to be like, well, if you just want to be like my friend, you hung out with me and we had such a good time. Why don't you want to kiss me again? It's like, because they want to be your friend. You kiss your friends.

[Tessa]

Some of them, but for the most part, I don't.

[Ally]

Yeah, I agree. Yeah. I think. I think. I think it's. It's okay to step away.

[Sashir]

Yeah.

[Ally]

And be like, we had a fun time. I. And I kind of like, the last listener, like, spoke my truth. I got it off my chest, saw what could happen. And, like, it's cool that we even had a moment together. But ultimately it wouldn't work anyway because he is leaving.

[Sashir]

Yes. And I do think you should find somebody who's, like, really excited about being with you.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sashir]

Who is like, yes, emphatically. I want to hang out with you. I want to be your friend, and I want to be your lover. Yeah.

[Tessa]

You know?

[Ally]

Yeah, I agree. Can we be lovers and friends From Usher? The Usher song.

[Sashir]

Which one?

[Ally]

Tell me again. Can we be lovers and friends?

[Tessa]

This is the Killing me, the little wiggle. Remember when we saw Usher in, like,

[Sashir]

I don't know, it was like a half hour in. You went, whoa, short concert.

[Tessa]

He did all his hits. I was like, he didn't do all his hits yet. But you very earnestly were like, huh. Seems to be a rap.

[Ally]

I couldn't believe we started at a 10. Yes. He was skating. There were pole dancers he was doing. Yeah, Like, I was like, yeah, you're right.

[Sashir]

He did do yeah, very early.

[Ally]

I was like, what is this, the end of the show? No, he just has so many hits.

[Sashir]

So many hits.

[Ally]

I loved that show so much.

[Sashir]

Somebody was like, what is your favorite love song? And I was like, that Usher song

[Ally]

where he's like, we're going nowhere fast.

[Sashir]

Yeah. That song's about a breakup.

[Ally]

It is.

[Sashir]

It's very.

[Ally]

Like you already said the lyric that's saying that we're going nowhere fast.

[Sashir]

Well, remember, up until a few years ago, I didn't know that lyrics had meaning. I was just like, this song is sexy. This is my favorite love song.

[Ally]

It's a really good song. And Confessions. Got one on the way.

[Sashir]

Never once at the concert did you dance like that. And I'm pretty upset about it.

[Tessa]

I wish I did.

[Ally]

I wish I knew about this move.

[Tessa]

Hold your head.

[Sashir]

Wiggle the hips. Remember they zoomed in on a woman's phone that said full storage? And he was right in front of her.

[Ally]

So sad.

[Sashir]

It was really funny. Sometimes the camera operators are really funny. Remember when I was like, I think I saw a video of Lady Gaga Sing Alejandro. And then they zoomed in on a Hispanic man. You were like, you didn't see that? Other than the concert that we were at.

[Ally]

We were there in person. That happened when we were there, I

[Sashir]

think I thought it was so wild that I was like, I must have seen that.

[Ally]

It was very wild.

[Sashir]

Not in front of my face.

[Ally]

And we had a lot of drugs in our system.

[Sashir]

We had so many drugs in our system. Man, we were so funny that night. Mateo truly was like, why are you guys so funny? And we were like, we took drugs.

[Ally]

Yeah. Good times.

[Sashir]

Good times. You ate a chicken sandwich so loud.

[Ally]

No, a hot dog.

[Sashir]

Oh, a hot dog. It was not actually loud, but. But you could hear it.

[Ally]

You had supersonic hearing at that moment.

[Sashir]

To me, it was like. And I was like, you were sitting.

[Tessa]

You were sitting in front of this

[Sashir]

lady that we didn't know. And I was like, oh, my God, that lady's gonna be so mad that

[Tessa]

she's chomping so hard. I have to tell her. And I was like, he. You're chewing really loudly.

[Sashir]

You were like, what?

[Tessa]

We're gonna state.

[Sashir]

We were in the Met state.

[Ally]

Like, open air, thousands of people.

[Tessa]

There's no way. Anyone.

[Sashir]

You're like, no, there is no way. And I was like, are you sure?

[Tessa]

She's gonna be so mad at you.

[Sashir]

And then another lady was eating a chicken sandwich, and I was like, I think I'm gonna ask her for some.

[Tessa]

And you're like, you can. And we were not closer.

[Ally]

And you're just staring at her eating it. And she was like, what do you want?

[Sashir]

Brave is what I call that. Brave. I've never been that high in public ever again.

[Ally]

Same.

[Sashir]

And then we did more drugs.

[Ally]

Yeah. But I felt safe.

[Tessa]

I felt so safe in that stadium.

[Sashir]

I mean, we were with the girls in the gays. Somebody would have taken care of us if something bad happened.

[Ally]

We were held.

[Sashir]

I can't remember what we took, but it hit when Just dance.

[Ally]

We. So we had mushroom tea and then we did a molly flip.

[Sashir]

Ah, yes. I remember. Just dance hit. And I looked at you and you

[Ally]

were like clutching my pearls.

[Sashir]

Yes. And then I was going, she wants us to dance.

[Tessa]

We also locked eyes and we were like, it's happening. Wow.

[Ally]

Solved. Solved. Well, if you have any questions or queries, you can email [e-mail] and we have.

[Tessa]

We have a phone number.

[Sashir]

When you were doing the email address,

[Tessa]

I just went and I don't know why, I just shook my little finger.

[Sashir]

We have a phone number where you can leave a voicemail, a text message.

[Ally]

What is it?

[Nicole]

323-238-6554.

[Sashir]

Oh, man, I fully forgot to take my medicine today.

[Tessa]

Did I tell you?

[Ally]

You did, yeah. I'm exhausted.

[Sashir]

Me too. We really laughed.

[Ally]

We had a.

[Sashir]

Goodbye.

[Ally]

Goodbye.

[Sashir]

Best Friends is a production of Headgum Studios.

[Ally]

Our producer is Ali Khan.

[Sashir]

Our executive producer is Anya Konovskaya.

[Ally]

The show is edited, mixed and engineered by Richelle Chen.

[Sashir]

Hi, I am Mandy Moore.

[Tessa]

Sterling K. Brown.

[Sashir]

And I'm Chris Sullivan. And we host the podcast that was us now on Headgum. Each episode going to go into a deep dive from our show. This is us.

[Tessa]

That's right.

[Nicole]

We're going to go episode by episode. We're also going to pepper in episodes

[Sashir]

with different guest stars and writers and casting directors. Are we going to cry? Yes, a little bit. Are we going to laugh a lot?

[Tessa]

A whole lot. That's what I'm hoping, man.

[Sashir]

Listen to that was us on your favorite podcast app. Or watch full video episodes on YouTube

[Ally]

or Spotify new episodes every Tuesday.