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Better Than Before Breast Cancer with The Breast Cancer Recovery Coach
Hosted by Laura Lummer · EN
Laura is a Certified Life, Health, Nutrition Coach, and Wellness professional.
She's a two-time breast cancer survivor living with metastatic disease.
Laura supports women in dropping their warrior shield after a diagnosis and treatment of breast cancer so they can release the pressure to go back to normal and create a life that's even better than before breast cancer.
These twice-weekly episodes give you tools you can apply to your life today, to support your body and your mind as you manage life after breast cancer.
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#467 Male Breast Cancer - What You Need to Know with Jake Messier
Yesterday01:04:21Tap to summarizeThis Father's Day episode is personal for me. I lost my brother to testicular cancer in 1993, and that loss taught me how dangerous it is when we do not talk about the cancers that catch our loved ones off guard. So I am honored to share this conversation with Jake Messier, a stage four metastatic male breast cancer advocate known on social media as The Guy With Stage Four Breast Cancer. Jake found a lump while putting on deodorant in early 2023 and, like most men, never imagined it could be breast cancer. That delay may have shaped his stage four diagnosis. In our conversation, he opens up about the isolation of being one man in a pink world, the support groups that turned him away, and the harder truth that almost no research exists on how this disease behaves differently in men, which is part of why it is roughly 30 percent more fatal in men than in women. We also talk about the work he is building now, including the Male Breast Cancer Research Foundation, the male mouse project, and a male cell line registry, plus the men's health questions so many of us carry for the people we love. His closing advice is simple. Be aware of your partner's normal, so you can recognize the abnormal. Please share this episode with the men in your life. It could be the reason one of them does not wait. Resources Mentioned: Work with Laura: https://www.thebreastcancerrecoverycoach.com/health Download for iPhone: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/kajabi/id1485646310 Download for Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=kajabi.kajabiapp&hl=en_US Connect with Jake Messier, MBA: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theguywithstage4breastcancer/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@stage4breastcancerguy Website: https://www.theguywithstage4breastcancer.com/ Let's Connect! If this episode helped you breathe a little easier, please share it with a friend or leave a review. Every share helps spread this message of hope, healing, and whole-person wellness. 💌 Join my email list for weekly wellness tips & podcast updates → The Breast Cancer Recovery Coach 💌 Join the Better Than Before Breast Cancer Life Coaching Membership → Life Coaching 💌 Join the Living Well After Breast Cancer Community → The Living Well After Breast Cancer Community 👩💻 Follow me on Instagram for daily inspiration → @thebreastcancerrecoverycoach 👩💻 Follow me on Facebook → The Breast Cancer Recovery Coach 🎙 Subscribe & leave a review on Apple Podcasts → Better Than Before Breast Cancer with The Breast Cancer Recovery Coach 🎥 Watch on YouTube → @BetterThanBeforeBreastCancer
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#466 Breast Cancer and Mental Health - You Deserve Support
1w ago00:31:00Tap to summarizeJune is Mental Health Month, and in this episode, I want you to hear something clearly. Your mental and emotional health is not a side note to breast cancer or to life after it. It deserves to be a priority, right alongside your physical health. I share a recent stretch of unrelenting pain that pulled me away from my walks and workouts, and how quickly that started to weigh on me mentally, because I want you to know you are not alone in that heaviness. We look at what the research actually shows about how long anxiety and depression can linger after a diagnosis, why isolation makes it harder, and how support changes everything. I also talk honestly about both lifestyle and medication. Nourishing your body and moving it genuinely support your brain, but they do not replace medical care, and reaching for medication when you need it is an act of love, not a failure. I close with a simple reframe. When "what is wrong with me" shows up, try asking "what do I need right now?" instead. You deserve support, friend. Come join us in the Living Well After Breast Cancer Community on the Breast Cancer Recovery Coach app. Resources Mentioned: Work with Laura: https://www.thebreastcancerrecoverycoach.com/health Download for iPhone: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/kajabi/id1485646310 Download for Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=kajabi.kajabiapp&hl=en_US Let's Connect! If this episode helped you breathe a little easier, please share it with a friend or leave a review. Every share helps spread this message of hope, healing, and whole-person wellness. 💌 Join my email list for weekly wellness tips & podcast updates → The Breast Cancer Recovery Coach 💌 Join the Better Than Before Breast Cancer Life Coaching Membership → Life Coaching 💌 Join the Living Well After Breast Cancer Community → The Living Well After Breast Cancer Community 👩💻 Follow me on Instagram for daily inspiration → @thebreastcancerrecoverycoach 👩💻 Follow me on Facebook → The Breast Cancer Recovery Coach 🎙 Subscribe & leave a review on Apple Podcasts → Better Than Before Breast Cancer with The Breast Cancer Recovery Coach 🎥 Watch on YouTube → @BetterThanBeforeBreastCancer
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#465 The Spice Rack - A Simple Way to Support Your Health After Breast Cancer
2w ago00:19:35Tap to summarizeWhat do I even eat? If that question has ever stopped you in your tracks, this episode is for you. So many of us cycle through the same handful of foods week after week, then feel guilty for not eating more variety. And when we try to fix that, it often turns into more recipes, more shopping, and more pressure to find the perfect anti-cancer diet. In this episode, I want to take that pressure off. The easiest way to add more plants to your plate is probably already in your kitchen. Your spice rack. Herbs and spices are not just flavor; they are plants and parts of plants, and they bring a whole range of beneficial compounds to your meals in just a couple of teaspoons. We talk about: Why variety matters more than any single super food How one pot of chili can deliver 25 different plant foods Turning one chicken into five meals by changing the seasoning How to know if a spice is still good and how long they really last How to buy and store spices so you actually use them Bringing in new flavors through teas and spice blends This is not a new diet or a new set of rules. It is one simple, enjoyable way to nourish your body using what you already have. Resources Mentioned: Work with Laura: https://www.thebreastcancerrecoverycoach.com/health Download for iPhone: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/kajabi/id1485646310 Download for Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=kajabi.kajabiapp&hl=en_US Grab the free guide: https://www.thebreastcancerrecoverycoach.com/spices Let's Connect! If this episode helped you breathe a little easier, please share it with a friend or leave a review. Every share helps spread this message of hope, healing, and whole-person wellness. 💌 Join my email list for weekly wellness tips & podcast updates → The Breast Cancer Recovery Coach 💌 Join the Better Than Before Breast Cancer Life Coaching Membership → Life Coaching 💌 Join the Living Well After Breast Cancer Community → The Living Well After Breast Cancer Community 👩💻 Follow me on Instagram for daily inspiration → @thebreastcancerrecoverycoach 👩💻 Follow me on Facebook → The Breast Cancer Recovery Coach 🎙 Subscribe & leave a review on Apple Podcasts → Better Than Before Breast Cancer with The Breast Cancer Recovery Coach 🎥 Watch on YouTube → @BetterThanBeforeBreastCancer
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#464 Acceptance After Breast Cancer - Letting Go of the Timeline
3w ago00:18:16Tap to summarizeLast week there was no podcast episode. For the first time in a long time, I simply didn't have the physical or emotional energy to show up behind the microphone. After navigating one of the most challenging health seasons I've experienced since my stage 4 diagnosis, I realized I couldn't just move on without talking about what this experience taught me. The lesson was acceptance. Not giving up. Not settling. Not pretending difficult things aren't difficult. Acceptance means acknowledging reality instead of exhausting yourself fighting against it. In this episode, I share what I've been going through, how self-imposed timelines create unnecessary suffering, and why so many of us judge ourselves for not being where we think we should be by now. We discuss: • Acceptance versus resistance • Healing after breast cancer • Letting go of unrealistic timelines • Self-compassion during difficult seasons • The psychology of "should" thinking • Living with uncertainty • Finding peace during setbacks • Why healing is rarely linear If you've been frustrated with where you are in your healing, your health, your relationships, your career, or your life, this conversation is for you. Resources Mentioned: Work with Laura: https://www.thebreastcancerrecoverycoach.com/health Download for iPhone: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/kajabi/id1485646310 Download for Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=kajabi.kajabiapp&hl=en_US Let's Connect! If this episode helped you breathe a little easier, please share it with a friend or leave a review. Every share helps spread this message of hope, healing, and whole-person wellness. 💌 Join my email list for weekly wellness tips & podcast updates → The Breast Cancer Recovery Coach 💌 Join the Better Than Before Breast Cancer Life Coaching Membership → Life Coaching 💌 Join the Living Well After Breast Cancer Community → The Living Well After Breast Cancer Community 👩💻 Follow me on Instagram for daily inspiration → @thebreastcancerrecoverycoach 👩💻 Follow me on Facebook → The Breast Cancer Recovery Coach 🎙 Subscribe & leave a review on Apple Podcasts → Better Than Before Breast Cancer with The Breast Cancer Recovery Coach 🎥 Watch on YouTube → @BetterThanBeforeBreastCancer
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#463 The Most Important Thing I've Done to Heal From Breast Cancer Isn't What You Think
May 1500:30:56Tap to summarizeWhat is the most important thing I've done to support healing after breast cancer? Mindset work. Not positive thinking. Not pretending things are fine when they're not. Not forcing affirmations I didn't believe. I'm talking about the work of examining what I believed was possible for my body and my future and learning how to update those beliefs. In this episode, I share why mindset work became the foundation of my healing journey after a stage 4 breast cancer diagnosis and how neuroscience shows that our brains constantly predict what's possible based on past experiences, conditioning, fear, and environment. We talk about: • Why belief systems impact behavior and healing • The brain as a predictive machine • How fear and conditioning shape health decisions • The connection between self-compassion and consistency • Why changing habits starts with changing beliefs • How small actions help create new evidence for the brain This conversation is about learning to believe that healing, peace, health, and change may actually be available to you. References Barrett, L.F. & Simmons, W.K. (2015). Interoceptive predictions in the brain. Nature Reviews Neuroscience, 16(7), 419-429. Hutchinson, J.B. & Barrett, L.F. (2019). The power of predictions: An emerging paradigm for psychological research. Current Directions in Psychological Science, 28(3), 280-291. Bandura, A. (1977). Self-efficacy: Toward a unifying theory of behavioral change. Psychological Review, 84(2), 191-215. Bandura, A. (1997). Self-Efficacy: The Exercise of Control. New York: Freeman. Neff, K.D. (2023). Self-Compassion: Theory, Method, Research, and Intervention. Annual Review of Psychology, 74, 193-218. Resources Mentioned: Work with Laura: https://www.thebreastcancerrecoverycoach.com/health Download for iPhone: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/kajabi/id1485646310 Download for Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=kajabi.kajabiapp&hl=en_US Let's Connect! If this episode helped you breathe a little easier, please share it with a friend or leave a review. Every share helps spread this message of hope, healing, and whole-person wellness. 💌 Join my email list for weekly wellness tips & podcast updates → The Breast Cancer Recovery Coach 💌 Join the Better Than Before Breast Cancer Life Coaching Membership → Life Coaching 💌 Join the Living Well After Breast Cancer Community → The Living Well After Breast Cancer Community 👩💻 Follow me on Instagram for daily inspiration → @thebreastcancerrecoverycoach 👩💻 Follow me on Facebook → The Breast Cancer Recovery Coach 🎙 Subscribe & leave a review on Apple Podcasts → Better Than Before Breast Cancer with The Breast Cancer Recovery Coach 🎥 Watch on YouTube → @BetterThanBeforeBreastCancer
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#462 Breast Cancer and Metabolic Health - Learning Your Body's Love Language
May 800:28:20Tap to summarizeIn this week's episode, I want to invite you to think about your body differently. What if your cravings, fatigue, bloating, brain fog, and energy shifts are not signs that your body is failing you… but signs that it's trying to communicate with you? After years of working with metabolic health, blood work, and nutrition genomics, I've realized something important. The problem is not the information itself. The problem is the lens we hear it through. So many women hear lab results and genetic information as proof that something is wrong with them. But your body is not broken. Your genetics are your body's blueprint. Your labs are your body's feedback. Your symptoms may be your body asking for support. In this episode, I share a powerful mindset shift that came from a coaching conversation with a client and I read a personal "love letter" written from my own body to me based on my labs, genetics, and healing journey. This episode is about learning to listen instead of judge. Because your body has been talking to you all along. Resources Mentioned: Work with Laura: https://www.thebreastcancerrecoverycoach.com/health Download for iPhone: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/kajabi/id1485646310 Download for Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=kajabi.kajabiapp&hl=en_US Let's Connect! If this episode helped you breathe a little easier, please share it with a friend or leave a review. Every share helps spread this message of hope, healing, and whole-person wellness. 💌 Join my email list for weekly wellness tips & podcast updates → The Breast Cancer Recovery Coach 💌 Join the Better Than Before Breast Cancer Life Coaching Membership → Life Coaching 💌 Join the Living Well After Breast Cancer Community → The Living Well After Breast Cancer Community 👩💻 Follow me on Instagram for daily inspiration → @thebreastcancerrecoverycoach 👩💻 Follow me on Facebook → The Breast Cancer Recovery Coach 🎙 Subscribe & leave a review on Apple Podcasts → Better Than Before Breast Cancer with The Breast Cancer Recovery Coach 🎥 Watch on YouTube → @BetterThanBeforeBreastCancer
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#461 Personal Growth After Breast Cancer — Without The Drama
May 100:22:36Tap to summarizeWhat if you didn't have to wait for something to go wrong to grow? In this episode, I'm sharing why so many women stop reaching for support once life starts to feel stable and how that pattern quietly keeps you stuck. We talk about the difference between the discomfort of crisis and the discomfort of growth, and why choosing growth creates a completely different life experience. I also walk through the connection between your emotional state and your physical health, including how stress, joy, and connection influence inflammation and immune function. This is about continuing to show up for yourself, not because something is broken, but because you want more out of your life. Resources Mentioned: Work with Laura: https://www.thebreastcancerrecoverycoach.com/health Download for iPhone: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/kajabi/id1485646310 Download for Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=kajabi.kajabiapp&hl=en_US Let's Connect! If this episode helped you breathe a little easier, please share it with a friend or leave a review. Every share helps spread this message of hope, healing, and whole-person wellness. 💌 Join my email list for weekly wellness tips & podcast updates → The Breast Cancer Recovery Coach 💌 Join the Better Than Before Breast Cancer Life Coaching Membership → Life Coaching 💌 Join the Living Well After Breast Cancer Community → The Living Well After Breast Cancer Community 👩💻 Follow me on Instagram for daily inspiration → @thebreastcancerrecoverycoach 👩💻 Follow me on Facebook → The Breast Cancer Recovery Coach 🎙 Subscribe & leave a review on Apple Podcasts → Better Than Before Breast Cancer with The Breast Cancer Recovery Coach 🎥 Watch on YouTube → @BetterThanBeforeBreastCancer
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#460 Why Emotional Pain Feels Physical - What Every Breast Cancer Survivor Needs to Know
Apr 2400:40:18Tap to summarizeEmotional pain is not just in your head. It is happening in your body. In this episode of the Nutrition After Breast Cancer: Just the Facts series, we look at the connection between emotional and physical pain through both lived experience and research. When you feel exhausted, overwhelmed, or stuck in a loop of thoughts, there is a biological reason for it. Your nervous system is responding exactly the way it was designed to. But understanding that changes everything. You will walk away with a clearer picture of: Why pain can feel overwhelming and never-ending How your brain processes emotional experiences Why avoidance can quietly shrink your life What it looks like to actually move through pain in a healthy way This is a grounded, honest conversation about what it means to live in a body that has been through something hard and how to care for it moving forward. Resources Mentioned: Work with Laura: https://www.thebreastcancerrecoverycoach.com/health Download the app: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/breast-cancer-recovery-coach/id6720763813 REFERENCES Roerink, M.E., van der Schaaf, M.E., et al. (2015). Fatigue in chronic inflammation — a link to pain pathways. Arthritis Research & Therapy, 17(1), 294. Research on central sensitization in chronic pain conditions. On memory, the amygdala, and emotional pain reactivation: Hanson, R. Research on negativity bias and memory encoding. LeDoux, J.E. Research on the amygdala, fear memory, and emotional reactivation. Research on the autobiographical memory system and the persistence of pain (neurocognitive framework for chronic pain). On naming emotion and nervous system regulation: Lieberman, M.D., Eisenberger, N.I., Crockett, M.J., Tom, S.M., Pfeifer, J.H., & Way, B.M. (2007). Putting feelings into words: Affect labeling disrupts amygdala activity in response to affective stimuli. Psychological Science, 18(5), 421–428. On self-compassion and physiological regulation: Neff, K.D. Research on self-compassion, cortisol, and heart rate variability. On psychological and emotional stress as inflammatory drivers: Alschuler, L. Cancer Therapies teachings, Metabolic Terrain Institute of Health. Let's Connect! If this episode helped you breathe a little easier, please share it with a friend or leave a review. Every share helps spread this message of hope, healing, and whole-person wellness. 💌 Join my email list for weekly wellness tips & podcast updates → The Breast Cancer Recovery Coach 💌 Join the Better Than Before Breast Cancer Life Coaching Membership → Life Coaching 💌 Join the Living Well After Breast Cancer Community → The Living Well After Breast Cancer Community 👩💻 Follow me on Instagram for daily inspiration → @thebreastcancerrecoverycoach 👩💻 Follow me on Facebook → The Breast Cancer Recovery Coach 🎙 Subscribe & leave a review on Apple Podcasts → Better Than Before Breast Cancer with The Breast Cancer Recovery Coach 🎥 Watch on YouTube → @BetterThanBeforeBreastCancer
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#459 Building a Life That's Better Than Before Breast Cancer™ with Cheri Henderson
Apr 1700:59:30Tap to summarizeCheri lives in Duluth, Minnesota with her adventure partner, Brent, along the stunning shores of Lake Superior. A two-time breast cancer thriver—first diagnosed with Invasive Ductal Carcinoma Stage IIIA in 2019 at 39 years old, and again with Metastatic Breast Cancer in 2021 at 41—Cheri continues to live life with strength, joy, and purpose. She leads an active, outdoor-centered lifestyle and seeks inspiration in nature, camping, fishing, hiking, and traveling. Cheri finds peace in collecting rocks, capturing her surroundings through photography, and nurturing deep connections with her family and friends. With over seventeen years of experience in the outdoor and fashion industries in leadership roles, Cheri blends her professional expertise with a B.A. in English and an M.A. in Communicating Arts to share her story through the power of writing. Cheri is a published author whose work has appeared in Wildfire Journal, the only literary magazine created for and by those "too young" for breast cancer and the Boundary Waters Journal, a nationwide wilderness canoe country magazine. Cheri is also trained as a 2026 Hear My Voice Breast Cancer Advocate with Living Beyond Breast Cancer, a national nonprofit organization providing trusted information and a community of support to those newly diagnosed, in treatment, post-treatment, and living with metastatic disease. Cheri looks to alchemize her experience into advocacy and chooses to live intentionally every day to honor her health and healing. Resources Mentioned: Work with Laura: https://www.thebreastcancerrecoverycoach.com/health Get The Breast Cancer Recovery Coach app: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/breast-cancer-recovery-coach/id6720763813 Learn about the Becoming You 2.0 coaching program https://www.thebreastcancerrecoverycoach.com/you Follow Cheri: https://www.instagram.com/chender1/ Episode #420 https://www.thebreastcancerrecoverycoach.com/420 Wildfire Magazine https://www.wildfirecommunity.org/ Boundary Waters journal https://www.boundarywatersjournal.com/ Let's Connect! If this episode helped you breathe a little easier, please share it with a friend or leave a review. Every share helps spread this message of hope, healing, and whole-person wellness. 💌 Join my email list for weekly wellness tips & podcast updates → The Breast Cancer Recovery Coach 💌 Join the Better Than Before Breast Cancer Life Coaching Membership → Life Coaching 💌 Join the Living Well After Breast Cancer Community → The Living Well After Breast Cancer Community 👩💻 Follow me on Instagram for daily inspiration → @thebreastcancerrecoverycoach 👩💻 Follow me on Facebook → The Breast Cancer Recovery Coach 🎙 Subscribe & leave a review on Apple Podcasts → Better Than Before Breast Cancer with The Breast Cancer Recovery Coach 🎥 Watch on YouTube → @BetterThanBeforeBreastCancer
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#458 Breast Cancer Recovery - How to Use The Science of Mindset to Create Better Health
Apr 1000:51:33Tap to summarizeWhat if your thoughts were creating physical changes in your body? In this episode, we are looking at the science behind mindset and how your brain, your expectations, and your thought patterns influence your health in very real ways. From negativity bias to the nocebo and placebo effects, I break down the research that shows how your mind impacts stress, symptoms, and healing. You will learn why fear-based thinking feels automatic, how it affects your body, and how to start shifting your thoughts in a way that actually works. This is not about positive thinking. It is about understanding how your brain works and learning how to guide it. Resources Mentioned: Work with Laura: https://www.thebreastcancerrecoverycoach.com/health Download the app: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/breast-cancer-recovery-coach/id6720763813 REFERENCES Baumeister, R.F., Bratslavsky, E., Finkenauer, C., & Vohs, K.D. (2001). Bad is stronger than good. Review of General Psychology, 5(4), 323-370. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1037/1089-2680.5.4.323 Rozin, P., & Royzman, E.B. (2001). Negativity bias, negativity dominance, and contagion. Personality and Social Psychology Review, 5(4), 296-320. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1207/S15327957PSPR0504_2 Beecher, H.K. (1955). The powerful placebo. Journal of the American Medical Association, 159(17), 1602-1606. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/303530 de la Fuente-Fernández, R., Ruth, T.J., Sossi, V., Schulzer, M., Calne, D.B., & Stoessl, A.J. (2001). Expectation and dopamine release: Mechanism of the placebo effect in Parkinson's disease. Science, 293(5532), 1164-1166. https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.1060937 Kaptchuk, T.J., Friedlander, E., Kelley, J.M., et al. (2010). Placebos without deception: A randomized controlled trial in irritable bowel syndrome. PLOS ONE, 5(12), e15591. https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0015591 Benedetti, F., Amanzio, M., Vighetti, S., & Asteggiano, G. (2006). The biochemical and neuroendocrine bases of the hyperalgesic nocebo effect. Journal of Neuroscience, 26(46), 12014-12022. https://www.jneurosci.org/content/26/46/12014 Haas, J.W., Bender, F.L., Ballou, S., Kelley, J.M., Wilhelm, M., Miller, F.G., Rief, W., & Kaptchuk, T.J. (2022). Frequency of adverse events in the placebo arms of COVID-19 vaccine trials: A systematic review and meta-analysis. JAMA Network Open, 5(1), e2143955. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2788172 Let's Connect! If this episode helped you breathe a little easier, please share it with a friend or leave a review. Every share helps spread this message of hope, healing, and whole-person wellness. 💌 Join my email list for weekly wellness tips & podcast updates → The Breast Cancer Recovery Coach 💌 Join the Better Than Before Breast Cancer Life Coaching Membership → Life Coaching 💌 Join the Living Well After Breast Cancer Community → The Living Well After Breast Cancer Community 👩💻 Follow me on Instagram for daily inspiration → @thebreastcancerrecoverycoach 👩💻 Follow me on Facebook → The Breast Cancer Recovery Coach 🎙 Subscribe & leave a review on Apple Podcasts → Better Than Before Breast Cancer with The Breast Cancer Recovery Coach 🎥 Watch on YouTube → @BetterThanBeforeBreastCancer
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