Podcast
Between Two Humidors
Hosted by Jonathan Ruggles · EN
In the swirl of smoke and savvy, Jonathan Ruggles sits 'Between Two Humidors,' a beacon in the haze, bringing you the podcast where the embers of innovation glow. Each session, is a cozy gathering with illustrious cigar industry founders, business leaders, and generally interesting people that ignites a tapestry of conversations. Here, wisdom is savored like a fine cigar, and insights are as rich as the aroma of aged tobacco. So, flick your lighter, puff thoughtfully, and let the narratives unroll in this engaging anthology where every episode is a slice of enlightenment. Welcome to a corner of the world where the smoke signals spell out the future with a human touch.
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Between Two Humidors Episode 015 > Perrie Morgan
Aug 1301:25:54Tap to summarizeIn this episode 15 of Between Two Humidors, Jonathan Ruggles welcomes Perrie Morgan, a Denver-based cigar roller who honed her craft under master cigar maker Clay Carlton. Introduced to the show by her college friend Laura, Perrie shared her journey from earning degrees in criminology and philosophy to working as a home detention officer, where she began frequenting cigar shops with colleagues. A bartending job at a cigar lounge became the gateway to learning the art of cigar making, a process that took her a year to master—focusing on filler leaf selection, mold use, construction, and wrapper techniques.Perrie’s blends are constantly evolving as she experiments with different leaves and incorporates feedback from fellow smokers. She recounted a trip to the Dominican Republic where she demonstrated her skills in a local shop, highlighting the importance of precision in construction and the unique qualities of each leaf. Throughout the conversation, Perrie emphasized the craftsmanship, patience, and continual learning that fuel her passion for cigars.Topics:* Introduction of Ms. Perrie Morgan: The conversation introduces Perrie Morgan, a cigar roller based in Denver, Colorado, highlighting her unique position as a female in a male-dominated industry and her interesting background in criminology and philosophy.* Perrie’s Cigar Rolling Origin Story: Perrie shares how she entered the world of cigar making through an apprenticeship with a master cigar maker and details the intense process and dedication required to learn the craft.* Challenges and Passion: The discussion covers challenges Perrie faces, including regulations, finding reliable suppliers, and deciding whether to expand her business while maintaining her passion and quality.* Perrie's Plans and Brand: Perrie is still developing her blends and lines of cigars, but has already established her brand with her logo. She is in the process of finding a printing company to create bands for the cigars.* Cigar Culture: The conversation touches on the inclusive and unique nature of cigar culture, the appreciation for the art of cigar making, and the misconceptions surrounding the industry, as well as the restrictive local laws of Denver in relation to Marijuana use.Guest LinksYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@CigarQueen3 Instagram: http://instagram.com/CigarQueen3 Thank you to our SponsorsThe Cigar Chapel -Bend, OregonDisclaimerhttps://www.betweentwohumidors.com/legal/
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Between Two Humidors Episode 014 > The Bend Foodie
Aug 501:51:39Tap to summarizeIn episode 14 of "Between Two Humidors," Host Jonathan Ruggles interviews Jon Jones, aka The Bend Foodie, Founder of the food & beverage “Bend Foodies” community on Facebook, which has over 22,000 members. The live conversation starts with greetings and a discussion about cigars: Jones enjoys a Double CT Tabernacle, while Ruggles savors a 20th-anniversary JJ by Don Pepin. The discussion Jones’ journey as the Bend Foodie, beginning in Tacoma, Washington, and moving to Bend for boarding school. He transitioned from firefighting and paramedicine to writing and marketing, fueled by a desire for creativity and service. His passion for scotch and cigars evolved into a love for food, leading to the creation of the Bend Foodie brand in 2019, focused on showcasing Central Oregon's culinary scene. Ruggles’ and Jones discussed a wide range of topics, below are some key markers.* Career Transition: Jones transitioned from a career in firefighting/paramedicine due to a lack of creative outlets to professional writing and eventually marketing, finding a niche as a food influencer.* Bend Foodie Origin: His interest in food began with a curiosity about Scotch and cigars, which evolved into a passion for food reviews and marketing local food and beverage businesses.* Bend Food Scene Insights: Jones offers insights into the Bend food scene, highlighting the importance of being approachable, balancing fusion with regional authenticity, and understanding the evolving "food IQ" of the local community.* Community Focus: The conversation emphasizes Jones' desire to serve the community, evident in his background in emergency services and his current role as a food influencer promoting local businesses and supporting non-profits.* Marketing and Influencing: Jones discusses his approach to marketing, including audience identification, messaging, and the importance of networking within the Central Oregon community. He also touches on the challenges and rewards of being a food influencer in a growing culinary scene.Guest LinksFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/thebendfoodie Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thebendfoodie TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thebendfoodie Thank you to our SponsorsThe Cigar Chapel -Bend, OregonDisclaimerhttps://www.betweentwohumidors.com/legal/
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Between Two Humidors Episode 013 > Mel
May 16, 202501:25:54Tap to summarizeIn episode 13 of "Between Two Humidors," Jonathan Ruggles interviews Mel, owner of Fame Wine and Cigars in Palm Springs and founder of MBombay Tobac. They discussed Palm Springs' unique vibe, flavor profiles in cigars, and stories from Mel's lounge. Mel shared how Fame evolved, emphasizing its international clientele and relaxed atmosphere where cigar enthusiasts feel welcome. He transitioned from the dot-com industry to cigars, opening Fame in 2001 and adding a curated selection of Belgian beers and wine. They explored Mel's journey into creating his cigar brand, MBombay Tobac, underscoring the importance of flavor and customer interaction. They also spoke about PCA and the overall cigar industry and its future.YouTube Video Episodehttps://youtu.be/_LUEmhUhDzU Guest Linkshttps://www.famelounge-ps.com/ https://www.bombaytobak.com/ https://www.instagram.com/famewinelounge/ https://www.instagram.com/mbombay_cigars/ Thank you to our SponsorsThe Cigar Chapel -Bend, OregonDisclaimerhttps://www.betweentwohumidors.com/legal/
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Between Two Humidors Episode 012 > John Pugh
Jan 16, 202501:05:00Tap to summarizeThis episode of the Between Two Humidors podcast features Mr. John Pugh, owner of the Cigar Chapel in Bend, Oregon. John shares cigar lounge etiquette tips: refrain from asking for illegal Cubans, avoid excessively licking cigars before using shared cutters, and purchase from the lounge before smoking personal cigars. John discusses the Cigar Chapel's history, revealing that he took over the business from Specialty Cigars and chose the name. He recounts bringing in La Barba and Caldwell as the first new brands, transitioning from heritage cigars to boutique options. John also announces his upcoming expansion plans, driven by the need for more space due to the Chapel's success. He expresses cautious optimism about the future of the cigar market. The conversation concludes with John discussing his distinctive beard and the anticipation surrounding Matt Booth's upcoming 15th-anniversary cigar release.Guest LinksWebsite: https://thecigarchapel.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecigarchapel/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thecigarchapel Thank you to our SponsorsThe Cigar Chapel -Bend, OregonDisclaimerhttps://www.betweentwohumidors.com/legal/
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Between Two Humidors Episode 011 > Robert Caldwell
Nov 26, 202401:23:30Tap to summarizeRobert Caldwell, founder of Caldwell Cigar Company, joins the Between Two Humidors podcast to discuss his life and career. Despite finding social interaction draining, he thrived in the cigar industry, attributing his success to a unique branding approach influenced by an artist friend who opened his eyes to the importance of aesthetics and attention to detail. He describes his approach to sourcing rare and high-quality tobacco, focusing on smaller, experimental crops and well-aged leaves. While he's stepped back from day-to-day management since selling his company, he remains passionate about product development, branding, and marketing. The conversation takes a philosophical turn with discussions about Elon Musk's unconventional path and the merits of travel as a form of education, advocating for genuine cultural immersion over tourist traps. Caldwell concludes by sharing his unique perspective on branding, urging aspiring entrepreneurs to observe why certain aesthetics resonate with them and emphasizing that a captivating presentation is key to attracting initial interest.
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Between Two Humidors Episode 010 > Jason Atkinson
Oct 4, 202401:40:28Tap to summarizeEpisode DescriptionThis is a wide-ranging conversation between two old friends, with Jonathan Ruggles, Host starting a podcast called "Between Two Humidors." The bulk of the discussion focuses on the career of Jason Atkinson: his early years as a ski instructor, his subsequent 14 year career in Oregon politics, including a run for governor, and his pivotal leadership in negotiating the largest restoration project in American history in the Klamath Basin. Learn more about that project at www.ariverbetweenus.com The conversation then shifts to Atkinson’s current work running a non-profit that provides fly-fishing trips for pastors, reflecting his view that pastors are essential community leaders who are often undervalued and overworked. The two conclude with a discussion of current events, like our 2nd Amendment, MAGA as a Monarchy, and offering a somewhat pessimistic view of American political discourse while still expressing optimism about the country's future. Guest LinksLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonaatkinson/ Website: https://www.jasonaatkinson.com/ Pastors Monday: https://www.pastorsmonday.com/ Documentary > “A River Between Us”Short Film > “Man Out”Thank you to our SponsorThe Cigar Chapel -Bend, OregonDisclaimerhttps://www.betweentwohumidors.com/legal/
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Between Two Humidors Episode 009 > Brandon Oveson & Kendrick Woolstenhulme
Aug 2, 202401:18:46Tap to summarizeIn Episode 009 of "Between Two Humidors", host Jonathan Ruggles and Guests Brandon Oveson and Kendrick Woolstenhulme discuss the origins and growth of their cigar brand, Apostate. Oveson and Woolstenhulme met in Utah, where they both used to be members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Oveson, inspired by his desire to work in the cigar industry, was hired by Woolstenhulme and eventually became the manager of his shop. During the pandemic in 2020, they created a super premium house blend cigar and turned it into a brand, naming it "Apostate" after the concept of someone who rejects or rebels against a certain set of beliefs. They quickly relied on an old friend and manufacturer Jochy Blanco in the Dominican Republic due to their shared philosophy. The brand's logo and names are inspired by Mormon mythology, and their unique approach to naming their blends has provided them with a deep well of inspiration for marketing purposes. They have experienced growth, with new retailers and continued orders from existing ones. With light criticism and fallout from leaving their religious community, they have been able to continue lasting friendships and emphasize the importance of building a new community based on the foundation of their old one. They share stories about their first experiences with cigars and discuss the success of their cigar events, which provide a safe space for human connection. Guest LinksLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brandon-oveson-a56586283/ / Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/apostatecigars/ Website: https://www.apostatecigars.com/ Thank you to our Sponsors - Special OFFER for Listeners in this episode!The Cigar Chapel - Bend, OregonApostate Cigars - Salt Lake City, Utah Disclaimerhttps://www.betweentwohumidors.com/legal/
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Between Two Humidors Episode 008 > Bryan Snyder
Jun 28, 202400:55:28Tap to summarizeIn "Between Two Humidors" Episode 008, Jonathan Ruggles, Host, and Bryan Snyder, Guest, discuss his experiences with their current cigars. Ruggles is smoking the Luciano Dreamer, and Snyder is smoking Maria Luchia. The conversation shifts to Snyder's work at the Bomarito Automotive Group in St. Louis, where they use Reynolds and Reynolds software instead of CDK Global. Snyder shares concerns about CDK's recent cyber attack, which has affected over 15,000 dealerships, causing significant impacts such as the inability to report sales to manufacturers and financial results to franchises. Moving on, Snyder shares how he came to own and operate a cigar lounge in St. Louis, MO.. He had long desired to open such a business and seized the opportunity when the owners expressed their intent to sell. The biggest surprise in the five years since has been the community support and sanctuary the lounge provides patrons. The lounge attracts an equal number of men and women, making it a unique and couple-friendly environment. Snyder also discusses the unexpected successes and challenges of his cigar lounge business. He attributes their success to having a strong team, including his son, the general manager. The conversation then shifts to Snyder's partnership with Luchiana Cigars, which began during the COVID-19 pandemic. Snyder described Luchano, the founder of the cigar brand, as genuine and supportive. Snyder also discusses the unique camaraderie among cigar lounges in St. Louis and the importance of good relationships among competitors. He expresses concerns about the upcoming opening of a Cigars International store near his business, but remains optimistic about the growth of the cigar industry and culture. Throughout the video, Snyder emphasizes the importance of relationships in business and shares personal stories about his experiences in the automotive and cigar industries. He believes that cigar lounges are one of the few places where different cultures and socio-economic groups come together and interact as one.Guest LinksLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bryan-snyder-6854324/ Website: https://www.litstl.com/ X: https://x.com/getlitstl Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/litcigarloungestl/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/litcigarloungestl TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@lit.cigar.lounge?_t=8nYGqN5ioYM&_r=1 Thank you to our SponsorsThe Cigar Chapel - Bend, OregonDisclaimerhttps://www.betweentwohumidors.com/legal/
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Between Two Humidors Episode 007 > Alex Husner
Jun 27, 202400:54:06Tap to summarizeA seasoned vacation rental marketing expert, Ms. Alex Husner has played a key role as CMO in two enterprise vacation rental management companies in the United States for the past 14 years. In early 2024, Alex decided to pursue her own entrepreneurial initiatives as CEO/Founder of Directly Alex LLC, a consultancy firm specializing in direct bookings and business growth strategies for vacation rental management companies. During her 13-year tenure as CMO with Condo-World, Alex spearheaded the growth of the company from 150 to 500 condos under management, driving $25M in annual revenue of which 95% came through direct marketing efforts. Alex served as Chairman of the Board of the Myrtle Beach Area Chamber of Commerce & CVB in 2022 and as a Board Member from 2015 - 2023, and has also served on VRMA Board of Directors and North Myrtle Beach Chamber of Commerce & CVB Board of Directors.SummaryIn the "Between Two Humidors" Episode 007, Host Jonathan Ruggles & Guest Alex Husner discuss her career journey in advertising, influenced by her father's creativity and experience. She shares how she faced challenges in the industry during the economic downturn but gained valuable experience and strong client relationships. Husner then talks about her proprietary strategic process for consulting in the vacation rental space, emphasizing the importance of understanding businesses and creating persuasive content. She also highlights the significance of marketing for hospitality businesses, the impact of digital resources, and the importance of building strong partnerships. Husner shares a client story about poor hospitality in a short-term rental and the importance of hospitality in the industry. Additionally, she discusses the influence of Airbnb on the vacation rental industry and the need for hospitality and relationships in the business. YouTube Video Linkhttps://youtu.be/GDGohB94jjY Guest Linkshttps://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-o-husner-1844306/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/alexandanniepodcast/ https://www.alexandanniepodcast.com/ Thank you to our SponsorsThe Cigar Chapel - Bend, OregonDisclaimerhttps://www.betweentwohumidors.com/legal/
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Between Two Humidors Episode 006 > Conversation after the Pod > Michael J Goldrich
Jun 18, 202400:09:01Tap to summarizeIn the "BTH Episode 006 Conversation after the Pod" with Michael J. Goldrich, Host Jonathan Ruggles and Goldrich explored the future development of technology, with a focus on Apple's intelligence capabilities and the potential for devices to serve as trusted confidants. Goldrich envisioned a future where people would become overly reliant on their phones, which would know everything about them, raising concerns about privacy, critical thinking skills, and the impact on younger generations. They also discussed the integration of advanced technology like neuralink into phones, enabling more advanced interaction and understanding of users. The conversation shifted towards the importance of passing down knowledge and experience to the younger generation, with Goldrich sharing an experience of giving advice to his son about the value of human involvement in technology. He emphasized the need for resonance and proof to make the advice effective, while touching on the use of AI to generate short videos and podcasts.YouTube Video Linkhttps://youtu.be/l9p7viNwsSw Guest Linkshttps://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelgoldrich/ https://vivanderadvisors.com/ Thank you to our SponsorsThe Cigar Chapel -Bend, OregonDisclaimerhttps://www.betweentwohumidors.com/legal/
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