Podcast
Between Us Moms
Hosted by Katie Krause Mork and Hallie Stephens Drake · EN
"Between Us Moms” is the podcast that spills the tea (or should we say milk) on parenting and pop culture.
In a world filled with dirty diapers, sleepless nights and toddler tantrums, two emmy-award winning entertainment journalists slash mamas embark on a hilarious and heartwarming journey about the beauty and chaos of motherhood.
And get this – your favorite celebrity mamas will be dropping by occasionally to share candid, meaningful and funny stories about parenthood not shared anywhere else.
From mama wins to the oh-so-familiar epic mom fails, we keep it real so you can too. And yes, we’re chatting about our favorite pop culture stories too — and sharing our expert insight you won’t get anywhere else!
New episodes every Wednesday.
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How Much Should a Toddler Birthday Party Cost?! Our Mom Triggers & 90s Crushes
1w ago00:28:22Tap to summarizeThis week on Between Us Moms, we are ALL over the place in the best way possible!We debate the absolutely insane cost of toddler birthday parties and try to figure out what’s actually reasonable to spend in this economy… because between groceries, inflation, and Pinterest-worthy parties, parenting is getting EXPENSIVE. We each put a dollar amount on much we think a kid's birthday party should cost.Then we get into the “sleep divorce” conversation because Hallie might be getting one — should couples sleep in separate rooms if one partner snores?! We also spiral into a full-blown nostalgic 90s crush conversation after hearing about Hilary Duff’s childhood crush on Jonathan Taylor Thomas. Katie and Hallie reveal the heartthrobs that completely defined their childhoods — Joshua Jackson, Hanson, Ryan Phillippe, Scott Speedman, Eric Von Detten, Devon Sawa and more. Plus, they share personal stories and interactions they've had with some of these men that you won't here anywhere else.Plus:• Our thoughts on Netflix’s The Crash: Are Madeline’s parents also partly responsible?• The REAL mom triggers pushing us over the edge lately: Whining, fighting siblings, bedtime battles, overstimulation and never having enough time to get anything done... we are sharing our personal motherhood moments that make us want to cry.If you’re a millennial mom trying to survive parenting, marriage, nostalgia, and the economy all at once… this episode is for you.Make sure to subscribe, leave a review, and follow Between Us Moms for new episodes every week!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Transcribe →Toddler Shade, Morgan Stewart Mom-Shamed, Elsie Hewitt Calls Out Pete Davidson and the Beta Mom Trend
2w ago00:29:15Tap to summarizeThis week, Hallie shares her “Nays of the Week” and reveals that her almost 4-year-old daughter may already be a mini Anna Wintour in the making. She didn’t expect such strong fashion opinions — or so much shade — from someone who still needs help buckling into a car seat.The ladies also get real about periods, perimenopause, and the chaos of womanhood, including why Katie unexpectedly had to take a pregnancy test this week (spoiler: she’s not pregnant).Then, Hallie and Katie dive into the internet discourse surrounding Morgan Stewart’s recent confession that she has two nannies covering all seven days of the week — typically from 8 a.m. to 4 or 5 p.m. The revelation, shared on “The Morgan Stewart Show,” quickly sparked online criticism, and the girls unpack the expectations placed on modern moms, especially wealthy ones.They also weigh in on the drama between Elsie Hewitt and Pete Davidson after Elsie hinted she’s been handling motherhood largely on her own following their split. The former couple share a 5-month-old daughter, Scottie Rose, and speculation exploded after Elsie posted a TikTok explaining how exhausted she’s been balancing work, motherhood, and life on her own. Pete’s camp quickly pushed back, insisting he’s a present and supportive father, while sources say the relationship simply moved too fast after the pair first got together in early 2025.And finally, the girls break down TikTok’s newest parenting phenomenon: the rise of the “beta mom.”See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Transcribe →Taylor Frankie Paul’s Mother’s Day Meltdown + Rihanna’s Sweet New Tattoo + Sex After Kids
3w ago00:30:14Tap to summarizeThis week, we’re diving into all the Mother’s Day chaos, celebrations, and internet drama you may have missed. Katie shares her double slay of the weekend — from a picture-perfect Mother’s Day surprise to the big news that she’s MOVING. Plus, Hallie explains why Instagram locked her husband out of his account after posting about her for Mother’s Day… and the wild NSFW ad she got served online.We also break down Taylor Frankie Paul’s emotional Mother’s Day rant and the growing fallout with her ‘Secret Lives of Mormon Wives’ co-star Mikayla Matthews. Between custody battles, protective orders, leaked footage, and public feuds, the drama surrounding Taylor and Dakota Mortensen just keeps escalating — and now it’s affecting careers, friendships, and the future of the show itself. Then, a softer celeb moment: Rihanna’s adorable new tattoo inspired by her kids’ colorful scribbles, created by celebrity tattoo artist Bang Bang. And finally — let’s talk about sex and parenthood. We’re unpacking new data from Emily Oster’s survey of 26,000 parents about how intimacy changes after kids, why it gets harder in the early years, and whether things actually bounce back over time.Motherhood, messiness, internet scandals, celebrity drama, and relationship realities — we cover it all this week.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Transcribe →'Secret Lives of Mormon Wives': Miranda Hope Interview (Exclusive)
4w ago00:24:45Tap to summarizeThis week on Between Us Moms, we interview Miranda Hope from 'The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives' for a fun and relatable conversation about motherhood, friendships, dating after divorce, co-parenting, and finding peace in the chaos -- just in time for Mother's Day.Miranda opens up about the era of life she’s in right now—her “intentional era”—and why slowing down, protecting her peace, and choosing aligned relationships has become her top priority. From navigating mom guilt (and why it never fully goes away) to embracing her role as a single working mom, this episode is filled moments every mom will feel.We also dive into:Dating as a single mom + her surprisingly relatable dream dateGreen flags in relationships and finding love after heartbreakHer thoughts on getting remarried and having more kidsThe truth about burnout and why she feels most at peace at home with her kidsCo-parenting struggles and learning to let go of controlHow she handles friendship breakups and being misunderstoodHonest Mother’s Day wants Miranda also shares powerful reflections on identity, healing, and what it really means to show up as your most authentic self after going through major life changes.If you love watching Miranda on 'SLOMW' and/or you’re a mom navigating divorce, co-parenting, mom guilt, or burnout, this episode will make you feel seen, validated, and hopeful. “Mom guilt never goes away—it just changes shape.” “Home with my kids is my sanctuary.” “I’m in my intentional era.” "It's a lot easier to handle criticism and hate or backlash when you're like, well, I was being myself."—Please note: This episode was taped in April, which is why we were unable to discuss the upcoming season or spin-off.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Keltie Knight on "The F*ck Them Theory: Red Carpets, Enemies, Money & Why Being “Bad” Is the Key to Success
Apr 2900:57:39Tap to summarizeBetween Us Moms is joined by TV host, bestselling author, and longtime friend Keltie Knight to talk about her bold new book, "The F*ck Them Theory" (available for pre-order now)—and this conversation does not hold back.Keltie gets real about what it actually takes to succeed in Hollywood, why being “perfect” is overrated, and how embracing your “bad” or badass side might be the thing that finally sets you free and helps you to succeed.In this episode, we dive into: ✨ The truth about Hollywood - from red carpets and fashion to after-parties (and why it’s not as glamorous as you might think) and her most awkward encounter ✨ Why money is the ultimate power move and the most important accolade you can have ✨ The reality behind Emmy Awards and what they really cost ✨ Why sometimes you have to leave a job to be seen the way you want to be seen ✨ The future of entertainment news after the cancellation of E! News and Access Hollywood ✨ Influencer culture vs. a return to excellence ✨ Why red carpets may soon become obsolete ✨ The Met Gala—and why it’s become more of a TikTok moment than an A-list experience ✨ Tips moms need to hear if they have a dream they want to build into reality Keltie also opens up in a way we’ve never heard before—sharing what she unlearned about herself while writing this book, who might be the most upset when it comes out, and yes… the story behind her facelift.Plus, she breaks down why she actually loves having enemies, what makes her an “evil genius,” and how she’s using that mindset to help other women win big. Moms, she has incredible ideas if you're ready to build a new career path for yourself! This episode is equal parts empowering, unfiltered, and wildly entertaining—and might just change the way you think about success.Pre-order The Fck Them Theory now and tune in for one of our most honest conversations yet.*See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Transcribe →Sarah Hoover is Back!
Apr 2200:42:31Tap to summarizeIn this powerful and deeply honest episode of Between Us Moms, we welcome back bestselling author and returning guest Sarah Hoover for a conversation that every mother—and mother-to-be—needs to hear.Since her last appearance, Sarah has traveled the globe promoting her critically acclaimed book "The Motherload," now available in paperback and currently being adapted into a television series. Along the way, she uncovered something striking: women everywhere are desperate for a space to talk openly about the realities of motherhood. From intrusive thoughts in the early postpartum weeks to the silent weight so many mothers carry, Sarah shares what she learned after meeting thousands of women who felt unheard, overwhelmed, and alone.We dive into the universal truths of motherhood, including the shocking realization that many women—even into their 70s—never recognized they experienced postpartum depression until reading "The Motherload." Sarah opens up about why owning your truth as a mother is essential and why no one deserves to spend decades disconnected from their own experience.Sarah also takes us behind the scenes of "The Motherload" TV adaptation, discussing the growing wave of honest storytelling about motherhood in Hollywood. She shares her dream casting (including her pick for who should play her), reveals that several high-profile moms have reached out to support the project, and reflects on how motherhood transcends status, fame, and access.In this episode, we also talk about:Why mothers need to have hard, honest conversations—not just for themselves, but for their childrenThe cultural shift toward more authentic portrayals of motherhood in mediaSarah’s thoughts on the controversial article about mothers who regret having childrenHer personal “mama hot takes,” including breaking free from Instagram addictionThe biggest myth she believes we need to stop telling new momsPlus, Sarah shares the simple but powerful practice that makes her feel whole as a mother—and why being present matters more than ever.This is an unfiltered, validating, and inspiring conversation about modern motherhood, mental health, postpartum experiences, and the importance of community.🎧 If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed, unseen, or questioned your experience as a mom, this episode will remind you: you are not alone.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Transcribe →The Ultimate Taylor Swift Love Letter: Inside the Swiftie Universe with Olivia Levin and The Story Of Us
Apr 1400:36:54Tap to summarizeThis episode is a full love letter to Taylor Swift—and the Swifties who grew up with her. We’re joined by Olivia Levin (@swiftiesforeternity), author of "The Story of Us," to dive deep into the magic behind the fandom that shaped a generation. From decoding Easter eggs to what it’s surprisingly like meeting Taylor, Olivia shares the behind-the-scenes of her new book and the community that inspired it. We swap Taylor stories and memories... reflect on iconic dates, eras and moments and share predictions about TS13. We get into everything: ✨ The most iconic Taylor Swift bridges ✨ The saddest songs and favorite albums ✨ The Travis Kelce era and what it means for Taylor’s story -- we can't wait for her wedding photos! ✨ Wild fan theories and predictions ✨ The bond between moms and daughters through Taylor’s musicPlus—why Taylor feels like the “ultimate mother” to so many women and how her music continues to evolve with us through every stage of life.Whether you’re a lifelong Swiftie or raising one, this episode is pure joy, candid conversation, magic, nostalgia, and joy.#Swifties #TaylorSwift #TheStoryOfUs See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Transcribe →Emily Harrington
Apr 800:42:51Tap to summarizeIn this inspiring and deeply honest episode of Between Us Moms, we sit down with world-renowned climber Emily Harrington—a 5-time U.S. National Champion and the first woman to successfully free climb Yosemite’s iconic Golden Gate route on El Capitan in a single day. Known for redefining what’s possible both on and off the wall, Emily has built a career on resilience, ambition, and pushing limits—and now, she’s navigating her most transformative role yet: motherhood. (And yes—her documentary Girl Climber was recently nominated for a Sports Emmy.)In this conversation, Emily opens up about how becoming a mom has fundamentally reshaped her identity, her priorities, and what fulfillment looks like in this new season of life. Once driven by clear career milestones and the pressure of a ticking biological clock, she shares how intentional she was about the timing of motherhood—and how much her perspective has shifted since welcoming her son in 2022. Now on the other side, she reflects on the unexpected joy and clarity she’s found, describing herself as “super happy” in a way she didn’t fully anticipate.We also dive into the persistent question so many women face: Can you really have it all? Emily offers a candid and refreshing take, calling the expectation itself an “exhausting narrative.” Instead, she explores how motherhood has redefined what “having it all” even means—and why that definition is allowed to evolve over time.This episode is a thoughtful exploration of ambition, identity, and the quiet (and not-so-quiet) transformations that come with becoming a parent. Emily speaks to the tension between striving and surrendering, and how motherhood doesn’t just add to your life—it reshapes what you want from it entirely.If you’ve ever felt caught between who you were and who you’re becoming, this conversation will leave you feeling seen, grounded, and more at ease with the ever-evolving nature of it all.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Transcribe →Spring Cleaning for the Mom Soul: Mental Reset, Marriage Check-Ins, Decluttering & Finding Yourself After Kids
Apr 100:34:09Tap to summarizeSpring cleaning—but make it for your mind, marriage, home and identity as a mom. In this episode of Between Us Moms, we’re diving into the real kind of reset moms actually need—decluttering your brain, your home, your schedule, and your emotional load after having kids. Because let’s be honest… when do we actually get our autonomy back after welcoming kids?We’re talking about:How we’re doing a mental reset as moms (what's helping us close the tabs and what we’re letting go of)Simple ways to declutter your home and your mind without overwhelmWhat it looks like to spring clean your marriage after kids -- what's helping in this busy season as we check in with our husbandsFinding yourself again after motherhood (and redefining who you are now)Mom anxiety, overstimulation, and the invisible mental loadPLUS, real-life mom updates you’ll definitely relate to:Hallie shares about her first parent-teacher conference and the unexpected anxiety that came with itKatie talks about seeing Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce together—and opens up about her daughter’s first school performance and why it didn’t go as plannedIf you’ve been feeling overwhelmed, stretched thin, or like you’ve lost a piece of yourself in motherhood—this episode is your reminder that you’re not alone… and that you can reset. 🤍See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Transcribe →Taylor Frankie Paul's Season of 'The Bachelorette' Cancelled, Brenda Song Slams Alaska Airlines After Flying With Kids and a Gen Z Reality Check
Mar 2500:29:28Tap to summarizeThis week’s episode dives into a few stories that feel very online at first, but quickly turn into bigger conversations about parenting, media accountability, and where culture is shifting right now.We start with Brenda Song calling out Alaska Airlines after a flight experience that hit a nerve for a lot of parents. She booked six months in advance and still got separated from her child. And that’s where we had to pause, because if you’ve ever flown with a toddler, you already know sitting together is not a preference, it’s survival. We get into why airlines treating seat assignments like “suggestions” feels completely disconnected from reality, and why separating a parent from a young child isn’t just inconvenient, it can quickly become everyone’s problem.Then we shift into the story that completely took over reality TV this week. Just days before premiere, ABC pulled an entire filmed season starring Taylor Frankie Paul after resurfaced footage from a 2023 domestic incident sparked immediate backlash. While the case itself was already public and even documented through police body cam footage, this newly surfaced video added a level of visibility that changed everything. We break down what was shown, why the reaction was so fast, and what it means that executives chose to scrap a project reportedly worth tens of millions of dollars.But the bigger question we keep coming back to is how it got this far in the first place. With her past already known, critics are asking whether ABC knowingly cast controversy for ratings and whether this cancellation is actually accountability or just damage control after the fact. Because this isn’t just internet drama, it involves alleged violence, a child present, and very real consequences.And finally, we dive into a new global study that reveals a surprising shift in how Gen Z men view relationships, marriage, and gender roles. The numbers don’t exactly match the narrative we’ve all been told about younger generations being more progressive, and the gap between Gen Z men and women is noticeable. We talk through what’s behind this shift, what it might mean long term, and why it’s sparking so much conversation right now.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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