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Co-host 1
Hello.
Sketch
Hello.
Co-host 2
How are we doing? Thanks for coming to our live pod. This is what?
Sketch
Weird.
Co-host 2
This is new for us.
Co-host 1
Yeah, it is. It is.
Co-host 2
I know.
Co-host 1
We're gonna put sketch over there.
Co-host 2
We'll put sketch over there.
Sketch
Okay. Okay.
Co-host 1
Okay, cool.
Co-host 2
We do have a special guest coming out. We have sketch coming, but right now we're just filming a live pod. So this will also be like streamed and yes. Posted, which is kind of weird, like to have people watching it while we do it.
Co-host 1
Yeah. No edits now. So whatever we say is going to be out there.
Co-host 2
Yeah, that's like a live podcast. If we say something bad, we can't have Peyton edit it out.
Co-host 1
No. We're gonna have to censor ourselves maybe a little bit.
Co-host 2
No, but Forbes is crazy. They know how to party. I'm like, were you there last night?
Co-host 1
Yeah. No, they do. I kind of thought, you know, it was going to be a little bit more, you know, suit and tie, really official. But last night, as soon as people started bowling, it seemed like the drinks were going down heavy.
Co-host 2
It was insane. I felt like I was back in college.
Sketch
I was.
Co-host 2
Forbes knows how to party.
Co-host 1
Yep. No doubt, no doubt. And it seemed like you were ready to get a little bit back on the horse last night. Finally.
Sketch
Okay, what yeah, it kind of seemed.
Co-host 1
Like, you know, like you were. You were feeling like you could be chatting with a couple of the guy. There was one guy specifically. There was some chatting going on.
Co-host 2
Okay, guys, he was like 6, 8.
Co-host 1
He's a tall guy.
Co-host 2
He was a tall guy. He was a tall guy. But I don't. I had something bad happen to me last week. I don't think I've told the story yet.
Co-host 1
Yeah, I think we can start there.
Co-host 2
Should we start there?
Co-host 1
Yeah, yeah, why don't we start? Because, you know, as much as you were ready to get on that horse a week ago.
Co-host 2
Yeah.
Co-host 1
It seemed like that horse already had two saddles on it.
Co-host 2
Yeah. Yeah. Unknowingly, I didn't know there was already someone on that horse. So me and Josh were out and I was talking to this guy and like, I. For a while I've been on, like self health journey. Like, I'm trying to find myself. So I haven't been trying to be in a relationship or like looking for anyone. And I'm like, told, Josh, I'm finally ready to do this again. Yeah, I think I can do this. Like, I'm ready. I don't think all men are bad. I think I can do this. I can get on the horse.
Co-host 1
But like a great, like, aha moment.
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Sketch
It was a good.
Co-host 1
It was a good feeling to start the night.
Co-host 2
Exactly. I was like, dude, I'm so excited. Like, I don't hate all men anymore. This is great. And quickly that ended up, this guy appears and like, you vetted him. He seemed like a normal dude. Yeah, he was great. He was very handsome. He was talking to us all night. He was being so lovey dovey. We're like holding hands. He was carrying me. He was doing all the things, like telling me he wants to take me on dates when we get back to New York. And this guy comes up to me when we're leaving. Like, I spent what, eight hours with this dude.
Co-host 1
Yeah.
Co-host 2
You were like, bri, hurry up.
Co-host 1
Like, yeah, it's time to go to bed. Let's go yet.
Co-host 2
And this guy comes up to me and he's like, hey, just so you know, that guy has had a girlfriend for four years.
Co-host 1
Yeah. It was a tough reveal. It was a tough reveal. And it was worse because we were in the elevator and the door was closing. He kind of just did like a hand stuck in to keep the elevator from closing. He goes, hey, by the way, that guy has a girlfriend for four years. All right, good night, guys. And Then just walked off, like, closing.
Co-host 2
And then the elevator just closed on us.
Co-host 1
Yeah, yeah. And we were just kind of left with that.
Co-host 2
And then what do I have in my hand? I literally have pictures of us in my hand in the photo booth, like, making out. I was like, I found my husband. So great.
Co-host 1
It was bad.
Co-host 2
And I was like, oh, my gosh. Which sucks because I've been that girl before. So then I go searching for this guy. Like, we're trying to find him on social media. He doesn't exist. Can't find him anywhere. So can't find his socials, therefore can't track down said girlfriend. No one really knows this guy's last name. So I'm like, who is this mysterious, mysterious, mysterious, awful man? He was a ghost.
Co-host 1
Yep.
Co-host 2
It was awful. So then I was like, damn, I don't want to be back on any of these horses ever again.
Co-host 1
Yeah, yeah.
Co-host 2
Relationship advice for me, Josh?
Co-host 1
Do I have any relationship advice? I mean, just find the male equivalent of Gabby and you'll be good.
Co-host 2
Okay, how do I do that? Where am I going to find that?
Co-host 1
I guess we got to go to Brazil.
Co-host 2
Oh, my gosh. Brazilian.
Co-host 1
Yeah, maybe you got to find yourself a Brazilian guy.
Co-host 2
When's the last time you've seen Gabby?
Co-host 1
Like maybe three weeks ago now. It's been, it's, it's a lot of suffering going on over here.
Co-host 2
I like Josh. If he's not streaming or if he's not doing something, he's. Gabby's always on FaceTime.
Co-host 1
Well, you know, you gotta, you gotta get the FaceTime in.
Co-host 2
No, it's sweet. I'm saying how many times a day do you think you FaceTime ballpark?
Co-host 1
Oh, it's gotta be, it's gotta be like three plus times a day. But there are a lot of quick check ins, you know what I mean? Like, you want to check in with your person throughout the day or she's giving me updates like, hey, you know, I just cooked for myself for the first time. Look at this cool dish. She's like showing me, like her tomatoes and onions and chicken that she cooked. And I'm like, oh, look at you go. So it's just like little things like that.
Co-host 2
Every single person that comes up to Josh, the first thing they say is, I love you, but I love your girlfriend more.
Co-host 1
Yeah, no, it's really starting to take a toll on the ego a little bit.
Co-host 2
I know. I can see it in his eyes. He's like, I'm my own person, which.
Co-host 1
I also, I also love my girlfriend more. Than I love myself. So, you know, I don't need to hear that from everybody else as well, but, no, I love it. I love the support.
Co-host 2
Yeah. Yeah.
Co-host 1
It's good.
Co-host 2
Yeah. It's good to see you humbled a little bit.
Co-host 1
Yeah.
Co-host 2
Like, you're not the coolest guy in the room anymore when, you know, I'm.
Co-host 1
Second and Gabby's number one.
Co-host 2
Yeah. And you're like, you're just the boyfriend.
Sketch
Yeah.
Co-host 2
Oh, my gosh. You're just a little boyfriend. But your hair is black like mine now because you copy everything that I do.
Co-host 1
All right. I didn't really understand that. I, I, I think you somehow are able to read my mind. And you dye your hair the color. I'm about to dye my hair the night before I dye my hair.
Co-host 2
It's insane. Like, the last Forbes event that we did, the guy comes up to us and he's like, hey, you guys had the same color hair last time. Now you guys are twinning again. Why are you doing this?
Co-host 1
Yeah, yeah, we had blonde at the same time, black at the same time, brown at the same time, pink at the same time. It's. I don't know, the world. The world just works in funny ways. Yeah. BFFs.
Co-host 2
It's BFFs. But you were just in. You were back home filming a movie. Is there anything that you could spill about it, or is it all secretive?
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Co-host 1
I mean, this. That's why I dyed my hair. So, you know, kind of changing up the look. I really don't know how much I'm allowed to say about this thing, so I've been tiptoeing it around it. We're also not done filming all the scenes yet, so, you know, I feel like there hasn't been the, like, press side of anything yet or there hasn't been people talking about it. So as soon as I get, like, the go ahead, you'll tell us. I'll be telling y' all all about it because it was the most fun I've had in a long time.
Co-host 2
You're like, the what? Fourth? We have little Huddie who became a movie star. From TikTok. We have Noah Beck, who became movie Lil.
Co-host 1
How do you do?
Co-host 2
I know you. You don't like him.
Co-host 1
No, no. What movie did he do? Did I miss him?
Co-host 2
Literally, he's promoting a movie right now.
Co-host 1
Oh, yes, yes. Yeah, yeah. With Tubi. Yep, yep.
Co-host 2
To be movie. I think you're Noah. Noah killed it with his theaters, but Noah killed it. And then did Bryce hall ever become an actor?
Co-host 1
Yeah, he. He had his scary movie that came out. And then there's like, the og Like, Cameron Dallas movie that came out, and then there's the Addison Rae that she did.
Co-host 2
And then Jake Shane was in Hacks.
Co-host 1
And now Jake Shane. You're starting to see a little bit more of the crossover. I like when people. There's also the show on Hulu. Gosh, I forget. I forget the name of that show right now that's messing with me. But there's a Tiktoker that also was on that show. So, you know, the bridge or like, kind of that gap between traditional and social is closing, and people are starting to take those gambles on people that are from the social scene. But, you know, it's got to be. They want to see that that person is going to put in work and not just think that, you know, because you've done a video in front of it or in front of your camera for 15 seconds, you think you can act.
Co-host 2
Do you think Will Hardy is a good actor?
Co-host 1
I don't know. I haven't seen him act.
Co-host 2
We should check that out and then we'll.
Co-host 1
I see you trying to bait me, though, here in front of everybody at.
Sketch
Forbes just a little bit.
Co-host 2
But speaking of that, like, we have a lot of people on social media also cross into reality tv. And we have Sketch, who is a live streamer. Obviously, if you guys don't know Sketch, he's amazing. You have to check him out. He's like the funniest, sweetest, most amazing person. But he just did a show on Netflix called Inside.
Co-host 1
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you're. I mean, and you just did the Special Forces show as well there. You're starting to see more of this reality TV crossover as well, with social. And with that being said, should we.
Co-host 2
Should we bring out Sketch?
Co-host 1
Should we bring out our guests now?
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Co-host 1
So we give it up for Sketch. Everybody.
Co-host 2
Sketch, where are you? Come on out.
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Co-host 2
He's running. I see him.
Sketch
Give it up for Sketch. How's it going? Thank you for having me. This. I feel like I'm on Ellen's show.
Co-host 2
Oh, let's go.
Sketch
What's up, guys? How are you feeling?
Ad Reader
Awesome.
Sketch
Holy. Oh. Are you allowed to cuss or is this, like.
Co-host 2
Yeah, you could do whatever you want.
Sketch
I forgot this is forced.
Co-host 1
You're the guest, so I think you're, you know, you.
Sketch
This is awesome.
Co-host 2
Sketchthew, you've been in the news so much the past week or so because your show inside had just come out and you. You have a lot to say about this show.
Sketch
I've been a bit of a drama queen, but it was. I felt like it was deserved. Like, for those that don't know, could.
Co-host 2
You explain what, like, the synopsis of the show is and what happens on the show?
Sketch
Okay. The synopsis of the show is pretty much there's a million dollars and there's 12 people. They're put in, like, a prison, like, system where it's like they're deprived of everything and given bad food. But there's a store where you can spend money and, like, for instance, you can meal upgrade for, like, $2,500. I'll relate it to, like, commissary in prison.
Co-host 1
So every time you spend any of that money, the pot of a million dollars goes down, which means whoever wins the show is getting less money every time someone spends money.
Sketch
Yes. And that's kind of like, you know, create some drama. But I don't know. There was a lot of rich people on the show, so a lot of people didn't give a.
Co-host 2
No, I'm really like, I, I, I.
Sketch
Was on, I was playing it like it was reality tv. I didn't know if I was gonna be able to reality TV again. So I was pretty much trying to. I use the word kill, but I use. I, I was trying to get everyone eliminated. That's a better word. Yes.
Co-host 2
And you were the first person to have the opportunity to kill someone. I mean, that's what you guys, like, say it on the show, right?
Sketch
Yes. And it turned into a nightmare.
Co-host 1
Yeah. So why don't, why don't you walk us through that first elimination? Obviously, you went and you decided to pick Finita to get off the show. And it seems like that started a lot of the, the drama from this season of sidemen or that seemed to start a lot of the talk online. When Finita got eliminated, what was like, the thought process to eliminate her? What were you thinking when you had the opportunity to eliminate somebody?
Sketch
My thought process when I eliminated her. So the background in the show. Spoiler alert. But pretty much the first night, I walk in and I'm the first one in, and there's a, there's a timer for 12 hours, and it's winding down. So when the 12 hours winds down, I pick up the phone and they call me into what's called room 19, which is where pretty much you're told, like, you meet with, like, what they call the voice of God. Whoever. The guy that's talking to you on the mic or whatever. Praise the Lord.
Co-host 1
Not.
Sketch
Well, not him, not the guy on the show. Praise the real Lord.
Co-host 2
Praise the real Lord.
Sketch
Not trying to be blasphemous, but where was I at? Sorry, I have stml. Short term memory loss. Okay, so when you, you were talking.
Co-host 1
About how the voice of God was talking to 19 the clock, that the clock was ticking down from 12 hours.
Sketch
So I pick up the phone, they call me in that room. And I pretty much was deciding between Bre Tessie from selling Sunset because she did reality tv, a guy named Max Fosh because the show was shot in London. And I thought I could tell everyone, hey, he has the shortest drive home. Everyone else drove or flew like eight, 10 hours. So I was like, I think that makes sense.
Co-host 2
That's a good logic.
Co-host 1
Send the guy home that has 45 minutes to get home and he'll be in his bed tonight.
Sketch
But he's the nicest guy in the world. So would have been like running over someone's dog and then, I don't know, that was the worst case scenario. But I knew Finita's personality and, like, just through beating her, I, I, you know, decided to shoot the first shot. And I didn't know she was going to come back in the game. So I was schizophrenic the whole time. Also not to. Am I supposed to talk a lot or. I don't mean to.
Co-host 2
Yes, you are in the guest.
Sketch
I was schizophrenic the whole show. I like to smoke weed and pretty much you. It was a rehab show for me as well, so I was a little schizophrenia.
Co-host 1
There we go. There we go. So when you eliminate Finita and then she comes back into the show, the way she's able to get back into the show is she buys herself back. Right?
Sketch
Right, yes. Which I think is bullshit.
Co-host 2
You think you shouldn't be able to buy yourself back?
Sketch
Well, it's an obvious. It's an obvious. Well, to give better background of it, it was $50,000 and they say the prize funds a million if you get eliminated from a show. And the prize and they, they offer you the chance to buy back in a show, obviously you're going to buy yourself back in. So I was like, tell us it's 950,000. Why? Why you took $50,000 away immediately everyone's going to buy back in, especially if.
Co-host 2
You get voted out first.
Sketch
Yeah. And then I turned into everyone's enemy.
Co-host 2
You didn't become everyone's enemy, did you? Or do you feel like Finita started to turn people on you?
Sketch
Finita was a good game player, but they cut out a lot of it. I was pretty much telling a random name to everyone. I kept forgetting Ekinsu's name, so I just call her the British lady, which, you know, the way I would find out her name each time Was there was lockers with their names on it. And I'd walk over there, and I'd be like, ekinsu, I can sue. I can sue. And then I'd forget. So do you. The lovely lady, though, do you think.
Co-host 1
That if you had a little bit of a better memory on this show, you would have been able to stay on the show a little longer? Do you think the schizophrenia was impacting your gameplay or some homies maybe, to lock into the show? What was. What was it like?
Sketch
I don't know. I felt pretty much like everyone was talking about me. And the way the edit came out, it did seem like everyone was talking about me, but maybe my schizophrenia hurt me. But I guess if I get another shot on another show, I'm just gonna sit there and be quiet, and I'm never answering a phone.
Co-host 1
So do you think that on that show, because, you know, reality tv, we've seen it. We've seen people take different strategies where, you know, some people really play the game, some people go and form alliances, some people will stick a little bit more to themselves and manipulate a lot of people. Did you feel like in this show you were almost punished by other cast members if you played the game?
Sketch
I felt like no one really played the game until later because the crosshairs were on me and my friend J. Cinco, because Jay Cinco spent the most money to start. And then I obviously got the first person route up, and everyone wanted to be on their team, and she was a great game player. So when I said. When I said in the show, I was like, I think Finita's gonna run the game. She ended up running the game and then got everyone, a couple of my friends voted off, but then she eventually got clipped.
Co-host 2
Well, it seems like there was a lot of drama.
Sketch
Am I spoiling, Girls? This is.
Co-host 1
No, it's out. People haven't seen it.
Sketch
Spoiler alert. Sorry, guys, I don't know.
Co-host 2
No, it's already all out on Netflix. I feel like there was a lot of drama between the girls on the show.
Sketch
When.
Co-host 2
Where do you think that stemmed from? And like, with Ekinsu, with Bri, with Finita. And then we kind of had a little bit of a Alyssa Violet drama, too.
Sketch
I say, well, in the reunion, there's a lot of drama, but, like, it was one thing. The reason I called out Brie post show is because when we had the premiere, Netflix and the sidemen didn't throw it. So breathe through it. And when you're throwing it and you have a million cameras, you're controlling the content, so you're making money. So she pretty much didn't invite Ekinsu because Ekansu during the game kind of got her. She got Finita eliminated, which left her alone, and she took that personally. So Ekinsu flew to the United States, had time. Some of us spent time with her. It felt really bad. And so we would text her in our group chat and we were like, well, the way it happened was in a group chat, Ekinsu text, hey, guys, sorry, I unfortunately can't come. I'm not invited, according to Bri. And then a couple people responded to that either through the group chat or through text. And then Bree's pretty much response was, throw your own event or, like, pretty much like, go fuck yourself vibe.
Co-host 2
So, yeah, we read the text. They were pretty mean.
Sketch
Yeah, she seems like, I don't know, like reality tv. It's one thing to be on camera, but a lot of that stuff conspired off camera. And the way she talked to other people and the way she treated Ekatsu, I thought was inappropriate. And Ekinsu didn't really have the platform because I'm a live streamer. I have, like, a more of a platform. I wasn't gonna let her get bullied because I was. I thought it was inappropriate.
Co-host 2
Are you always like that? I feel you were the only one, like, publicly to kind of stand up for. I can sue after and also kind of come at Finita and Bri for being bullies. And everyone else on the show, I think, kind of stayed quiet. Like, have you always been like that?
Sketch
I don't. I mean, like, I've just been on a game show. I usually just play video games and rip bong. Sorry, Forbes, but I, like, it was more like in that. In that essence, like, I felt the need that, like. Because what you don't see in the reunion, you miss a lot of the cut. What I would say is at the reunion, if you had to keep a temperature of the room, the temperature of the room was six. But what they cut out, it was probably at a level 10 temperature for like an hour.
Co-host 1
So with obviously, you know, people have now, after the show or post show, have kind of started talking or standing up for Ekinsu or talking with debris of it all. Why was it that people weren't being vocal during the recording of the show about the two of them? Or why was it that people felt like it had to wait until, like, the whole show was over? Were people scared of them? Did people think they were going to be Able to get them, like, kicked off the shit. Like, why weren't people being more vocal during the recording?
Sketch
During the recording, it was all gameplay. They were just like intimidating game players. That's what they were. Fine. Then it was like, to me, like, even when she spent. Bree spent 200,000 or whatever they call it Monopoly money. Like, the premise of the show is the money is not yours until you win. So I agreed with them on that. Like, I just didn't agree with how she treated her after the fact because I thought, like, because when we all. When I'm off and she's off, my discussions with her and Jay Cinco was there and like, they pretty much were talking about how much they were going to go at Ek and Sue and they.
Co-host 1
They being Bri and Finita.
Sketch
Finita. So when you watch a reunion, there's an obvious temperature level to those two and how they're going at Ek and Sue. And it's because in my mind, Ekansu, she got a girl voted off and, like, she played a game. She played very well. And I personally think Bree's jealous. Like, not to be. Drama, drama, drama queen.
Co-host 2
Drama queen is.
Sketch
I don't give a fuck, though. She, like, it's a game, but, like, she took beyond the game. So, like, that's why I'm talking about it.
Co-host 2
Well, I, I think it was one of the craziest moves ever to go on a game show and then get eliminated, play the game and then throw a premiere party and still be mad at the person that played the game and single her out and not invite her to the premiere. That, to me is very, very mean girl mentality. So I'm glad someone called it out.
Sketch
Because the, the way that the reunion ended in, like, I don't know any of their backstory, but, like, the reason that I felt more confident about doing it was based on how her text and her level of energy towards anyone that said anything about Ekinsu. In their defense, because some cast members did say something and she pretty much said, go throw your own event.
Co-host 1
Like, like, so any other cast members that stood up for I can sue privately. Like on a one on one chat with Bri was being told, like, if you're going to stand up for, I just want to have you here.
Sketch
Yeah, like, one of the. I think this is. I'm not going to speak in quotations, but this is one of them was. It was. This is my STML real quick. But it was, oh, we can make. She goes, if you want to get messy, we can make Changes to the guest list. And this was the day of the premiere of a show that we were all on. You know, it's everyone's moment and she throws the thing and like you're getting content out of everything. So it's like, it just like Streamer University, like I love Kai, but like when you, when you throw like a big event and you bring people with like following and then you have the cameras, like, that's your, that's your content. Like that, that was her. She, she took everyone's moment, made her content and then.
Co-host 1
So she took a moment that was supposed to be about everyone and made it about her, is what you're saying?
Sketch
Pretty much.
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Co-host 2
Yeah, well, I have a question. Why didn't Netflix or sidemen throw a premiere?
Co-host 1
That's what I was going to say. Like why wouldn't the people or the.
Sketch
Producers, they get up the budget on that thing. They, they, they spent a million dollars. They, they. The thing is, the show they did before was in UK and it was for a million pounds. I don't know what the conversion rate on a million pounds, but they saved some money doing it in the U.S. yeah, there we go. There's the Forbes for you. I just gave you a. I don't know what conversion rate is. Buy high, sell low. That's how you do it.
Co-host 2
What was the worst part for you on the show? Like actually behind the scenes and stuff. Something they didn't show.
Sketch
I'll say the two things that I. One thing that I liked and one thing I didn't like.
Co-host 1
There we go.
Sketch
I didn't like. I don't want to sound like an addict or something. I smoke before I go to bed. I didn't like having that part, like a stress reliever. And then what I did not. What I did, like, is like, bring.
Co-host 1
Like, melatonin or something to.
Sketch
I cannot sleep through melatonin. Melatonin is like. I don't know.
Co-host 1
It just doesn't do it.
Sketch
It doesn't do it.
Co-host 1
I'm a little stronger.
Sketch
I'll eat them. Like, it's a pack of gummies or something.
Co-host 1
Right, right, right. Okay. Like some Scooby Doo snacks.
Sketch
Yeah. And they taste like. So it's not even worth it.
Co-host 1
There we go.
Sketch
All right, all right.
Co-host 1
So what. What did you, like. What did you like then?
Sketch
Not being on your phone. That's. That's crazy. Like, first for four days, I didn't have my phone, so. And we didn't have, like, concept of time. So, like, that, like, you get to have deeper conversations.
Co-host 1
So there's no, like, you don't know if it's 2:00am or 10:00pm Exactly.
Sketch
Like, if they're waking us up or they're. They're like telling us go to sleep. We have no. No time of day reference. So it's kind of like a mental game in that aspect as well.
Co-host 2
Who did you become closest with on the show?
Sketch
Who did I get closest with? Zach justice is my boy, but that motherfucker didn't help me at all. I got. I got. I got. I got out of that game pretty, pretty easy. Someone. Is someone in here. Caster. Get me on a different show with some people that will play the game. Holy. There's everyone on that game show had.
Co-host 2
He wants to go on. Traders, Survivor.
Sketch
Please survive.
Co-host 1
If you could pick one reality TV show to go on now that you've done Inside, I don't know. What would it be?
Sketch
Probably Traders. Traders. Because I. I'm willing to backstab. Not let's down pause, but like. Like, I meant more like in. In a game reference. I love reality tv. It's pretty cool. Like, you just. You don't have to worry about the content. You're just having fun.
Co-host 1
Yeah.
Sketch
Until it turns into War three with the cast. It's awesome.
Co-host 2
But do you ever get worried? Were you worried about what your edit was going to look like coming out of it?
Sketch
I will say they caught me in the shower a little bit on and out. And my girlfriend was like, going, like, why are you freaking out right there? I was like, it is. It's negative 32 water. Like, they, like, water the. The hot Water you had to buy.
Co-host 1
Oh.
Sketch
So they put freezing cold. Like it's pretty much an ice bath.
Co-host 2
So that's hell.
Sketch
Yeah, it was pretty much like hell, but, like, except for not really. It was pretty luxurious, to be honest. Like, they could. They could. They could take away more to make it a little harder.
Co-host 2
What was. Yeah. What was the. So the hardest thing besides weed, obviously. What was the hardest thing to live without on the show.
Sketch
To live without. Yeah, I would say. I don't know. There's not. Well, probably my friends, family.
Co-host 2
Yeah.
Co-host 1
Not like Uber Eats.
Sketch
Sentimental.
Co-host 1
He's a good guy.
Sketch
Uber eats.
Co-host 1
Yeah.
Sketch
I missed the food, but like, it was. I got a little bit skinnier. Not. I. I gained it all back. But like, it was. They only had rice and beans, so everyone was farting the whole time. Like it was. It was nothing but gas. But it didn't smell bad because there was zero seasoning on it.
Co-host 2
So it was really bad food. You will. There was also a food, like kind of a food challenge with the Temptation Room where you had said that Finita kind of cheated during that.
Sketch
I wouldn't. I don't want to get in trouble. So I'm not, I'm not. I don't. I'm not going to say cheat when I say this, but I will say that my buddy Jasonko is the first one to get tempted. And what they do is they bring in a room, they tempt you for 30 minutes, like, and his was pizza and wings. And they're like, Jason, you can take $30,000. You don't know until the end of the day. Like the tally count. People are spending money all the time.
Co-host 2
Yeah.
Sketch
And Jay Cinco goes and takes it like a dumbass. But.
Co-host 1
So he pays $30,000 to get pizza and wings.
Co-host 2
Yes, I might.
Sketch
Pretty. Pretty dumb idea. And then. But he was. He's a terrible liar. But what they don't show is Finita went and ripped open the door and then came in a room and was like, like, he, like he took it.
Co-host 1
So she walked into the room in a moment that's supposed to be just Jay Cinco.
Sketch
Oh, JCA was gone. It was after the fact because they had to clean the room out and stuff. So she just went down there and opened the door, saw like a half eaten chicken wing, was like, he did it. He did it. That's why when on the show, like, it kind of defends my point of view because at one point I go, like, I thought you all knew that she. She went into. She told us.
Co-host 1
Right.
Sketch
And Jason Told me, that's my boys. He's going to tell me something.
Co-host 2
I feel like you. You've spoken up a lot about Bri and Finita online recently, like Twitch streaming or live streaming. Where do you guys stand now?
Sketch
I don't have any problem with Finita. I don't think that she should have any racist comments that have been going on. And I denounce all that stuff. Like, that stuff's terrible. All the nasty shit online. It's a game show. The only thing that I stood up for was the. For Ekinsu after, like, the racism part and then Ekinsu after a fact, how she was treated. The rest of the stuff was like, I'll let the other people that were involved in the drama speak for themselves. Because it's no secret that one person walked off the. The reunion and was it there and, like, it's not. I'm not like, breaking any.
Co-host 1
Yeah, I saw in the reunion, like, obvious.
Sketch
It's obvious in the cut.
Co-host 1
Yeah, I saw in the reunion and there was a clip where. Where Zach justice speaks about this. There's a clip where he says, like, you know, I walked off and somebody on the set was saying things and, like, kind of more attacking personally than talking about the game at that point. So it seems like when you say, like, the reunion was at a level 10, even though it looked like it was at a 5 when they showed in the cut, there were a lot of things that the Netflix producers or sidemen producers felt they needed to cut.
Sketch
Out of this show or to say some reputations were protected for sure.
Co-host 1
And why do you think they are trying to protect certain people's reputations? Is that I don't.
Sketch
I want to be on Netflix. Please give me on time.
Co-host 2
This isn't on Netflix.
Co-host 1
Traders is on a different platform.
Sketch
Well, anyway, still, Netflix would be sick. Sick. I don't think. I think it was like they wanted to create a storyline and if anyone ever wants to speak about it, they can speak about it because it was someone. It was. I wasn't involved, so I don't feel the need to speak about it.
Co-host 1
It's someone else's story to tell and.
Sketch
I ain't want to get sued. Sorry, guys.
Co-host 2
That's fair.
Sketch
Unless someone wants to throw me some money up here. Got any lawyers in a crowd?
Co-host 2
There's no lawyers.
Co-host 1
Someone needs to protect Sketch.
Co-host 2
Sketch needs a new lawyer. Yeah, but you said that the reunion got really heated at times. What did you do when you feel. Do you feel uncomfortable in those moments? Are you, like, what the Hell do.
Sketch
I do double fisting? God, don't clip this up. But I, I had. I had a tequila Red Bull and a thing of champagne and it, it kept me cool through the. Through the show.
Co-host 2
Do you think maybe that's through the.
Sketch
Show, but through the reunion.
Co-host 2
Do you think maybe that's why the reunion was getting so heated? Because people were drinking.
Sketch
Some people boozed up. But, like, it wasn't like, it was like them that set up. Like, people came in that were pre gaming. Like, you can tell, like, Breeze glammed up. Like she was. Because she. She was off the show. Like, because they. The reunions directly after the show. So tensions, like, still really high. Like, emotions are high.
Co-host 1
So when you guys do that reunion, it's still. It's still taking place in the uk.
Sketch
Yeah.
Co-host 1
Like, you're filming that in the uk. So what have. What have all the people that have been eliminated been doing? Are they just put up in a hotel and wait for the.
Sketch
Well, the reason the cast leak is because the last three seasons, everyone get eliminated on a Wednesday. There's one club to go to in London and no one puts their phone down to someone record something. They're like, oh, they're on the show.
Co-host 1
Okay.
Co-host 2
Oh, okay.
Sketch
Everyone. Everyone just goes to the club. Especially Jay Cinco. He got eliminated in like, I think he was on the show for 30 minutes. I love him, but he shouldn't ate the chicken wings for 30,000.
Co-host 1
He had a quick cameo.
Co-host 2
Did you think that the, like, the casting was premeditated and they knew what they were doing to like start dramas or start beefs or do you think it was kind of just random?
Sketch
I think it was. I think that they definitely casted for certain reasons. I don't know. Like there was. There's prehistory with some castmates. You can Google it. I'm not going to say some of them. Yeah, but like, it was definitely like strategic in and getting things going on early. Like, I don't know, like, even Aisha and Zach knowing each other, like, I've, like, I remember what I, What I. On the reunion, I say, like, when I threw Aisha's name out, I was. Then Zach didn't say anything. I was the reason I knew I was screwed because I was like, damn it, he likes Aisha more than me. I'm.
Co-host 1
His loyalty was to Aisha.
Sketch
No one was loyal to me. Well, because I was a snitch and I told everyone a different name pretty much.
Co-host 2
So you. But you. So you got caught in your lies and then everyone Was like, all right, sketch has to get out of here.
Sketch
I am a terrible liar.
Co-host 2
I could tell. Like, he's always this, like, worried.
Sketch
You can tell? What do you mean? You. But how? What? How? Okay, let me tell you that.
Co-host 1
That sentence.
Sketch
In a lie, then that lets us know. I'm. Dang. I can't think that fast.
Co-host 1
I think this is what makes you a bad liar.
Sketch
I was born in Texas. I. I am legally blind. And. Or I am. Have one kidney.
Co-host 1
And.
Sketch
Or. Or.
Co-host 1
And you do have one kidney.
Sketch
That's the three options.
Co-host 1
Okay. All right.
Co-host 2
The lie is you're born in Texas.
Sketch
No. Is that. Wait, no, it's too. Did I do two lies and a truth? I'm sorry. I should. Should. I should. I should really think this thing through. I think I. Let's play another game. Let's play spin the bottle. No, I'm just kidding.
Co-host 2
If you could have had any one of, like, your friends that you think would have had your back, like a streamer or someone that someone would know else on the show, who would you want?
Sketch
If I wanted someone else on the show. If you could have picked one guy.
Co-host 1
Or one person have your back.
Sketch
Oh, no. Oh, like, for casting or if I had one guy to have my back.
Co-host 1
Like, if you guys, if. If you could have brought anybody onto this show to be on the show with you, you felt like, okay, I would have had an alliance with them. I could have, like, got farther in the show. Who's one other person you would have?
Co-host 2
Yeah, like, someone would have had my back, Jinxy.
Sketch
But I would have stabbed in the back as soon as I had the chance.
Co-host 2
Why?
Sketch
For the cinema. For the clip.
Co-host 2
Yeah.
Co-host 1
So even your b. Even your best friend.
Sketch
I was like, I. I'm sorry. But I could not stop smiling. I was like, it was a dream to be on reality tv. And I was like, this is so sick.
Co-host 2
So you guys, what I.
Sketch
What they do. Sorry to interrupt you, but they go, like, do I go read a card? It's like, sketch. Gather everyone in the living room and eliminate a player. And I'm like, holy shit. I've never thought I'd get this chance. And I was like, who can I think of? And I ended up guessing right about the biggest personality. So.
Co-host 2
Yeah, yeah, you did. But. And you also. I feel like, do you think the show wouldn't have been as good? Because I know Finita gets a lot of hate. Like, all of the comments are like, finita sucks. Vanita this. But I think a lot of people watched the show because she was Entertaining.
Sketch
She's entertaining. And she knows how to do reality tv. So I think she's going to do another show and I don't have any ill will towards her. I think, like. Like, we went to the club after.
Co-host 2
Yeah.
Sketch
And stuff like that. Like, we, like, had a good time. Like, it was just in the reunion. Things just got heated with. With first for some reason. Like, Finita and Bri just went in. Heated.
Co-host 2
Yeah.
Sketch
Particularly at ekin, too.
Co-host 2
I think you have more beef with Bray. You have more beef with.
Co-host 1
It seems like you now.
Sketch
I do. Oh, my God. I took some shots and I shot her halfway around the world.
Co-host 1
Yeah, because you were. You were, as you were sharing on live or you were talking on live about, like, that group chat. And you said it a little bit here about how, you know, Brie had said, like, oh, if you. If. If you want to. If you want to side with I can sue, essentially, we can make changes to the guest list.
Sketch
Read the text.
Co-host 1
I was going to say I had seen a clip where you were going back and forth with her and you made a comment about how she's not busy or Six hours of glam doesn't classify as busy.
Sketch
That. Well, that. That pretty much. Yeah. It was. It was. It was a good one. Let me pull it up.
Co-host 1
Really was a good.
Co-host 2
It was a good one.
Sketch
Running.
Co-host 2
Running ad on these text messages.
Sketch
Run an ad while we're doing this.
Co-host 1
We don't have any ads here.
Co-host 2
It's alive.
Sketch
Okay.
Co-host 1
It's. Wait, we're not.
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Co-host 2
This is a group chat with the whole entire show and no one's responding. It's just sketch like going back and forth with Bri and everyone's being quiet.
Sketch
It's crazy beforehand, everyone. Bri's trying to get everyone to go to like on a vacation and it's all about around her schedule and nobody really wants to go because like, she's not the nicest person to be around. But soon as the reunion dropped, this is the text I sent. I said, just want to say it was a great show and very fun to meet. Y' all have. That being said, if I had known Ekinsu wasn't invited over childish reasons on a game show, I would have never shown up. Haven't seen mean girl energy like that in my entire life. Count me out of any event that is controlled by a bully. I'll make sure people know how Ekin was treated, especially if she doesn't defend herself. That was disgusting.
Co-host 2
Let's go sketch.
Co-host 1
Get up for sketch.
Co-host 2
Seriously.
Sketch
And then I'll give you her response though she said sketch. There's more to why. And then kind of goes on like another rant. And then I'll just get to the part where she said I said she said I said like pretty much was threatening her. And then I go, I'm not coming after anyone. I'm simply going to say what happened. That's not a threat. She goes say what happened? Laughing face like it's comical. She's not very good at like typing, apparently. It's hard to this is. This is not me. This is not Elle Reader. But. But like it's a com she had said and done things and I don't play about that. And yes, I'm a bitch. Call me a bully. Okay, true, I don't care. But I'm not a victim and I sure as hell won't sit here and associate or allow someone at any event I paid for and did who has spoken to who to and about people I care about in that regard. And I recommend not speaking on the things you, not you, you know nothing about. Is this.
Co-host 1
Is this her texting or you're reading?
Co-host 2
No, I read them last night.
Sketch
She text the last part. So she goes in that regard and I'd recommend not speaking on things you know nothing about. But again, be my guest. In which I responded, I guess I'll take that as an invitation. I'll be live at one. And then she goes, she. She goes, I'm not scared of your stream or your threats. If you support someone who is calling someone, a trainee who apparently. Okay, in quotations, this is apparently what she said. Ekansu said, yes, but there's no proof of it. And the way she let off the text didn't make sense. Sorry, I don't know if I messed up there, but.
Co-host 1
No, no. I'm just trying to digest all of these texts that seem to be written by, like, a third grader. I don't understand how in a group.
Co-host 2
Chat with no one responding, these sentences.
Co-host 1
Are just brutally written.
Sketch
But when she started off the text, she originally calls, I can see a fake bitch on reality tv. And it, to me, it came off as jealousy. And then she brought up something else, which I don't. That's why I say I don't speak on. And then I actually did. Fuck. But I'll say the part that I thought was a banger line, though. She goes. I go, you told me when you got eliminated, you were airing fake bitches out for ekins. Who's switching up on the girls? Lmao. Because that was true. She said that at club. I'm not asking you to be scared. Maybe that's insecurity. I'm just letting it known that wasn't the only cast member met with a similar energy regarding the premiere. So please spare me the sympathy. She goes, lmao. You think this is sympathy? Boy, go live. I'm busy laughing, waving face. And then I said, don't really need to go back and forth. I said, what? I said, the world will see it is for what it is. And then I said, makeup for six hours isn't busy, but okay.
Co-host 1
You know, I feel like I've been most impressed with the person doing ASL over there while those.
Ad Reader
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Co-host 1
I can't believe she got all of that. Let's give it up for her. Everybod, everybody. Holy cow. She got all of that. That is right over there. She's doing that. She's doing the sign language right now. And that is.
Sketch
Is that. I can't see that far.
Co-host 1
No, she's not that.
Co-host 2
That's phenomenal.
Sketch
Right over.
Co-host 2
He wasn't even English.
Sketch
She's right over there.
Co-host 1
Sketch just in the corner.
Sketch
Can you not see?
Co-host 2
Okay, so two truths and a lie. He Is legally blind.
Sketch
To the left.
Co-host 1
Sketch.
Co-host 2
He's blind.
Co-host 1
So legally blind was.
Sketch
That's the truth.
Co-host 1
That was the only truth out of the two lies. Yeah, you can pull up the vod.
Sketch
I'm. I'm minus seven, and I. And I. And I don't have, like, contacts or anything.
Co-host 1
Well, you're also wearing your glass on the back of the head, which I can't imagine helps so much, plus two.
Sketch
And that's the only reason people recognize me. I used to read them as readers, and then my eyes got worse, so technically they make my eyesight worse.
Co-host 1
Oh, so they're just a fascist.
Sketch
They're a staple.
Co-host 1
All right.
Co-host 2
That's how I recognize Sketch. In the beginning, he had his glasses. His eyes were always squinting. But we only have five minutes left, so we want to open up to questions from the audience. If anyone has any questions that you could ask. Sketch Josh.
Audience Member
100%. Hi, my name is Hugh Lee. I work in esports in Las Vegas, Nevada. I'm one of the few reasons why TwitchCon came to Las Vegas. My biggest question to you is this. I love your content, but what the heck was going through your mind when you threw the lighter in the campfire with you, Ron and Lacy?
Sketch
Okay. When I threw the lighter in the campfire, I thought it was almost empty. And what the thing is, when we're streaming, we were going to do a 24 hour camping stream. And what we didn't realize is once the sun goes down, you have no lighting. So we were just sitting in the dark and we had one thing of fire and one thing to one lighter. So I was like, if I get rid of this lighter, we maybe we just go to a waffle house and call it. And I put it in there. And then I almost killed my friend. But that wasn't on purpose.
Audience Member
Yeah, that's a viral clip. You guys should definitely watch it on YouTube. It's a campfire.
Sketch
It's a good clip. Right?
Audience Member
All you do, he throws the lighter in a campfire out of nowhere. And then two of his friends, Ron and Lacy, were like, did you just do that? And he's like, ha, ha ha.
Sketch
Yeah.
Audience Member
And then he's like, did you really? And then he blows up in their face.
Sketch
I said it. I said I did, though. I said I did. And they didn't get out there. I didn't. I didn't know it was gonna blow up. I was sitting there too.
Co-host 1
Yeah, it's terrible reflexes about the whole group. If you watch that video.
Sketch
I apologize.
Co-host 1
Yeah, it was. You Guys needed to get out of there much quicker.
Sketch
Yeah. Another question over here.
Co-host 1
Yeah. Sketch. Out of most, like, influencer celebrities that I see online, I think that you're extremely genuine in all the clips you have. You actually give time to your fans, especially those that are younger. Why is that such an important stable for you to give back to the community that helps support you?
Sketch
Well, thank you for the kind comment, but I just, I just started streaming and got. This happened by accident, but, like, I've always grown up being like a big fan of like, like, of, of like other people as well. And I just, I just know what.
Co-host 1
It means.
Sketch
To other people. So I don't know. I'm.
Co-host 1
No, no, no. It's okay to get emotional about that. I think that just shows how much you care.
Sketch
Thank you for the kind comment about your audience. I just know what it means, you know, like, so just a little bit of time, like, means a lot to people.
Co-host 1
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's. That's awesome. That's awesome.
Co-host 2
I think we have another question. Yes. Sketch. I was rooting for you. My boyfriend and I love the show.
Sketch
Thank you so much.
Co-host 2
My question is if you could add one item to the commissary for next season, what would you add?
Sketch
If I could add one question, like.
Co-host 2
Item to the commissary.
Sketch
Yeah, let me think about that.
Co-host 1
I think I know what you would have answered to this.
Sketch
I think it different flavor of chips. Simple but entertaining. It's like, that's a good question because they added things like, like just like bouncy balls and stuff. It needs to be, I don't know, like, maybe it would be funny. It's like baseball in a baseball mitt. Like, things like you can actually play with. They're like maybe ping pong or bring.
Co-host 1
Like a pool table.
Sketch
I don't know. It's a very hard question because you want something that, like, people have to spend money on but, like, isn't overly entertaining. And then also the copyright issue.
Co-host 2
Just like the specific barbecue chips you wanted.
Sketch
You said what?
Co-host 2
I said the barbecue chips you wanted.
Sketch
Those were good. But when they started giving me the original ones for a thousand dollars, I was starting to get pissed. I bought like six things of Pringles and they started to realize I like, like sour cream and onion. So they started messing with me. And they make you wait five minutes. I'm like, if you get me in trouble on this game show, regular chips, I'm gonna be pissed. And then that was the reaction. I thought you should beat you. Thank you for watching the show.
Co-host 2
Well, we're out of time, so that's all the questions we can take. But thank you guys so much, and thank you, Sketch, for coming on.
Co-host 1
Yeah, give it up, Sketch, everybody.
Sketch
We love you all. Thank you so much.
Co-host 2
Thanks, guys.
Co-host 1
Thank you, guys.
Date: October 3, 2025
Special Guest: Sketch (Twitch personality, cast member on Netflix’s Inside)
In this live-recorded episode, Josh and Brianna host viral livestreamer Sketch for a candid breakdown of his time on Netflix's new reality series Inside: USA. The three dig deep into behind-the-scenes drama, gameplay decisions, cast rivalries, and unexpected personal journeys during the show. Sketch offers honest insights on how the cast dynamic played out, how editing shaped the season, and the real tensions that erupted both on-and-off camera—especially around the infamous reunion. Audience Q&A brings funny and heartwarming moments, rounding out one of the podcast’s juiciest, most unfiltered interviews yet.
The episode oscillates between candid humor and raw honesty, mixing BFF-style ribbing with surprisingly serious discussions about gameplay ethics, authentic friendship, and the darker side of post-reality TV fame. Sketch emerges as the rare reality TV contestant unafraid to call out “mean girl energy” and stand up for others, while still recognizing his own flaws as a player and streamer. Fans of the podcast and Inside: USA alike will find inside tea, scathing group chat receipts, and plenty of Sketch’s signature chaos.