Declassified: "The Doom of DudleyTown"

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Bigfoot Collectors Club – Declassified: "The Doom of DudleyTown"

Date: October 29, 2025
Hosts: Michael McMillan & Riley Bray
Theme:
A deep dive into the haunted lore, curse rumors, and fiercely guarded secrecy of Dudleytown, Connecticut – one of America’s most infamously mysterious (and restricted) ghost towns.

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Episode Overview

This special "declassified" episode of Bigfoot Collectors Club features Michael McMillan and Riley Bray exploring the legends around Dudleytown, CT—a so-called cursed settlement with a shadowy past of tragedies, hauntings, and local government cover-ups. The conversation is peppered with the hosts’ signature humor and plenty of banter, but also tackles the earnest tug-of-war between paranormal fans and Dudleytown’s combative historical society.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Dudleytown Introduction & the Supposed Curse

[21:27] Michael McMillan:

• The legend: Three Dudley brothers (Gideon, Abiel, Barzillai) settled in Cornwall, CT in the 1740s; legend claims their ancestor Edmund Dudley was cursed after trying to overthrow King Henry VII, and that curse followed their descendants to America.
• Surnames & Curses: The “curse” is ascribed to divine retribution, not an explicit spell.
• Notable Quote:

  “No one ever says there was a wizard that cursed him. It was just... the family name was cursed.”
  (Michael, 24:03)

2. Geography Adds to the Lore

[25:05] Michael:

• Dudleytown never thrived; poor rocky soil, perpetual shade cast by three hills, and little sunshine—adding literal gloom and poor morale.
• Notable Quote:

  “You never see the sun here in the valley of like three mountains and you can’t grow anything."
  (Michael, 26:03)

• The only local industry was lumber, not farming.

3. Tragic and Bizarre Events

[26:51] Michael:

• Residents’ deaths or disappearances:
  • Nathaniel Carter’s family was murdered, then he himself was killed in NYC.
  • Abel Dudley lived to 90 but developed dementia.
  • Gershon Hollister, a friend, was killed in a barn accident; a rumor claims shadow creatures “ate” him.
  • Sarah Fay killed by lightning (curse-adjacent, as hosts joke).
• Madness and misfortune—several residents suffered strange deaths or insanity, fueling tales of a curse.

4. Paranormal Activity and Shadow Creatures

[29:25] Michael:

• Dudleytown gained notoriety:
  • Labeled by Ed and Lorraine Warren as "demonic."
  • Sightings of shadow people, glowing apparitions, eerie mists ("Devil's Breath"), and Bigfoot-like creatures.
• Eerie silence: Some report a notable absence of wildlife sounds.
• Ghost stories, particularly about Gershon Hollister and other vanished or insane townsfolk.

5. The Contemporary Mystery & Ban

[30:35 | 34:03] Michael & Riley:

• The area is now privately owned as "Dark Entry Forest," strictly off-limits.
• Local Historical Society is vocally hostile toward the curse mythology and dismisses all paranormal claims—almost to a comic degree.
• [35:54] Riley reads from the society’s stern letter to thrill-seekers:

  “If you’re stupid enough to believe in curses..."

• Cornwall threatens legal action against trespassers; the hosts note this only feeds the fire.

6. The Great Dudleytown Debate: Secret or Sensationalism?

• There is a local radio DJ, Lou Milano, fixated on uncovering "what the Historical Society is hiding"—sending FOI requests and publicizing redacted police reports and possible missing persons cases.
• The hosts delight in the dynamic between the stuffy Society and conspiracy-minded locals.
• Notable Quote:

  "They're like Batman and the Joker. There's a beauty to the dance."
  (Michael, 48:20)

• Discussion on private preservation societies’ possible ulterior motives: is the secret just boring, or is there a true "energy vortex"?

7. Bigger Questions & Comedy

[50:05] Michael:

• Hosts poke fun at the whole situation:
  • Is the secrecy just bad PR?
  • Why not monetize the mystery with tours/merch?
  • Tongue-in-cheek hashtags:

    “#ShowUsYourWoods”
    “#WhatAreYouHiding”

• Playful comparisons to Twin Peaks, Skinwalker Ranch, and Stranger Things.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• "I shall water the rocks with my tears." (Michael, 26:22)
• "None of this would have happened if you’d just given that guy a sourdough starter." (Riley, 44:44)
• "The day that you get to the post where you're ending it with #WhatTheHellAreYouHiding, you're in too deep." (Riley, 47:31)

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Timestamps: Important Segments

• 05:23 – Episode proper begins; brief banter about pets, house moods, technical issues.
• 21:27 – Introduction to Dudleytown legend and alleged curse.
• 25:05 – Why the land is so bleak and gloomy.
• 26:51 – Rundown of tragic/freakish events and "curse" evidence.
• 29:25 – Discussing shadow creatures, demonic reputation, Ed & Lorraine Warren.
• 30:35 – Current status: Restricted, private, fiercely protected.
• 34:03 – Insistence by locals that there's “nothing to see,” and the comic effect of their overreaction.
• 43:33 – Dive into the local radio DJ’s crusade against the “cover-up.”
• 44:53 – Stories of wildlife silence and mystical phenomena.
• 49:29 – Hosts’ reflections: Is it a supernatural hotspot, or just a small-town drama played large?
• 51:02 – Pitching this whole thing as a mockumentary movie.

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Tone & Style

• Easy, breezy, bantering—hosts toggle between genuine curiosity, sharp wit, and pop culture references.
• Interplay of skepticism and enthusiasm for “High Strangeness.”
• Gentle lampooning of both the conspiracy-obsessed and the stubbornly humorless officials.

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Recommended Listening:

• For anyone fascinated by cursed places, forbidden woods, supernatural drama, or the sometimes hilarious culture clash between local history buffs and paranormal fandom.
• Standout for its combination of personal anecdotes, accessible folklore summary, and playful comedic chemistry.

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Final Thoughts

This episode is a wild, informative, and genuinely funny journey into the lore of one of America's most off-limits "haunted" villages. Whether you believe in curses or not, you'll be tempted to sneak through the "Dark Entry Forest"—or at least to hit up the next best digital rabbit hole. Just, as Michael says:
"Show me your woods."
—(Michael, 50:43)

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Transcript

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[Riley Bray]

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[Michael McMillan]

Bigfoot Collectors Club Presents Terrifying Tales from Zombie Bigfoot's Cryptid Crypt I know a ghost story about you. Hey club scouts, it's your host Mike Skull mchelion, and we are closing out Zombie Bigfoot's cryptic crypt this month with a special treat. This is a declassified episode from BCC the Other side the Doom of Dudleytown. So if you're not a premium member, this is a brand new episode for you. Now, it's a little funny because this was originally part of our big strange vacation from this past summer, but this episode has a lot of Halloween crossover appeal, as you will soon see. This is also the episode where we announced our new premium feed BCC Clubhouse on Supercast. So if you like this episode and you want more bonus episodes like it, then come join us at bcc.supercast.com at the base membership. You'll get three bonus episodes every month and access to over 300 bonus episodes dating all the way back to 2018 before the show was even one year old. You can upgrade to the Cosmoteer membership and you'll get all of that, plus ad free episodes and monthly music tracks from Ultra Terrestrial producer Riley. You can listen to your premium feed on your podcast app of your choice, including Spotify or Apple Podcasts. All you gotta do is go to bcc.supercast.com to sign up. I also want to remind our Patreon members over on BCC the Other side that this Friday's episode will be the last new episode to drop on the Patreon channel. That's right, BCC's Patreon channel is coming to an end. Beginning November 1st, all new bonus content will be dropping exclusively on bcc.supercast.com Hey, I just wanted to take a moment also to say how much Riley and I really appreciate your support over the years. Whether you've done so financially or just by being here every week, it's just Riley and me cranking out everything here. There's also Zozi barking in the background from time to time. But yeah, it's just Riley and me making everything over here and on the premium feed and on the YouTube channel. So we really, really do appreciate all the support over the years. Speaking of our YouTube channel, if you have not yet watched our little spooky documentary Ghost Quest, the Haunted Eldridge Hotel that we dropped earlier this fall, please go check that out on the BCC YouTube channel right now. Riley, Steve Berg, W. Dave, Keith and me spent the night at a haunted hotel in Lawrence, Kansas and filmed our paranormal investigation. At least 95% is if not more of what's in that hour long video is new material that you cannot see or hear anywhere else. We got ghost stories, we got Estes sessions, we've got shadow people fluttering off camera and a dance break. I mean it's like a little Halloween party for your senses. I know for a fact because I can see the numbers that a lot of you still haven't watched it. And I think Halloween is the perfect time to do it. There are some other shorter videos that tie into that investigation. So take some time to check out our Legend Quest Kansas series as well. And please, while you're there, do not forget to like and subscribe. Now what you're about to listen to is an episode about a spooky place called Dudleytown up in Connecticut. I had such a great time sharing its history with Riley and we found ourselves going down, I think a hilarious rabbit hole about the history of this place. It might be my personal favorite bonus episode of the year and a great example of what's to come on our supercast premium feed. I hope you enjoy. Stick around for the end of this episode for a special Halloween themed collector's corner. Okay, I'll be waiting for you there. In the meantime, enjoy the the Doom of Dudley Town dancing to music that isn't there unless it's there later, but it's not here now. How's it going, Riley?

[Riley Bray]

Oh, it's good. My house is a sauna basically. So it's going to be a sweaty episode.

[Michael McMillan]

Are we going to have a hot dog coming by? Mr. Nova showing up?

[Riley Bray]

Probably he'll come over and just sort of pant. That's his. That's his. His signature move nowadays is to just get about like 3 inches from your face when you're in bed.

[Michael McMillan]

Hot dog breath. He's like a succubus now.

[Riley Bray]

It is kind of. Or it's especially good. He'll. He'll also do that in the middle of the night in a dark room looking at nothing. That's kind of. So you sort of walk into a room and you just hear hot breath in the dark and it's scary. It's unsettling. It is unsettling. He's a. He's a very, very old man.

[Michael McMillan]

Oh, man. There goes my light again. I always try to have my little accent light going, and it always dies the moment we start recording over.

[Riley Bray]

When that happens.

[Michael McMillan]

I know. Hey, everybody. Welcome to BCC the Other side, the parallel dimension to Bigfoot Collectors Club. I'm your host, Michael McMillan, and with me always is your holographic truthsayer.

[Riley Bray]

How can a hologram be truth if it is only illusion? Whoa.

[Michael McMillan]

Now that's the truth. That's true.

[Riley Bray]

Is that a truth or an illusion.

[Michael McMillan]

Man dropping them truth bombs on us. Hi, everybody. So this is our 301st episode of BCC the Other side. And if you caught last week's episode, we announced some big news. And that big news is that BCC the Other side, is moving from Patreon over to Supercast. BCC Clubhouse is coming to Supercast. You're going to get your ad free episodes over there, you're going to get your bonus episodes over there, and you're going to get your cosmic tracks over there. And whatever you're paying right now, that's what you're going to be paying over there. So all grandfathered into Supercast, it's the wave of the future, baby. Patreon is on its way out. Supercast is on its way in.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah, ever since the whole, like, App Store 30% upcharge thing on Patreon with the Apple situation where we've been telling you guys to go to the website, it's just like, this is, like, this is too confusing. This is too third party. We want something that is, like, cohesive and streamlined and a better user experience and more. I see Lucifer walking.

[Michael McMillan]

Oh, Lucifer is back.

[Riley Bray]

Just a. Just a. It's. It's. Yeah, like he says, like the. It's the. It's the way of the future. It's.

[Michael McMillan]

Yes.

[Riley Bray]

A lot of our favorite podcasts have switched over to Supercast, and it's just like a better way to just sort of join the whole show together rather than us being like. And also we have this thing over here and we're gonna sunset the Patreon. So it's not like, this is not any, like, immediate thing that's gonna be a knee jerk for you, but it is, like, extremely easy to transfer it over. And then all your Patreon stuff will just show up in your normal podcast feed. It's better for you.

[Michael McMillan]

So much easier.

[Riley Bray]

It's better.

[Michael McMillan]

I joined a couple podcasts when we were kicking around this idea over on Supercast and it is literally like I punch one button, I punch another button, and it's all right there. And you're going to be able to be like, I want the ad free episode feed in here. And that's going to be your feed. That's going to be all your ad free episodes. I want bcc, the Other side feed, which is just going to be all your bonus episodes. And then we're going to create a channel that's exclusively Cosmic Tracks so you can press play on that music and there aren't any episodes interrupting your holographic Truth fl. Truth Sayer flow. You know, Exactly.

[Riley Bray]

You listen to that for a day and a half straight or something. I don't know what we're up to at that point, but yeah, it's. You'll like it. It's better and it's better. It's not going to cost you anything more or. And it's very easy to switch and. Yeah, but now you can come join us in the clubhouse.

[Michael McMillan]

That's right, the official clubhouse, virtually. Now that the housekeeping is out of the way, Riley, should we head on over to who Came In Club?

[Riley Bray]

Starting to sound like emphysema there. Apple crust.

[Michael McMillan]

He never hangs around for any comment.

[Riley Bray]

That's it. That's all he says. Well, that's probably for the better, but here's what Lyric says. She says, oh my God. The Shining book is crazy good, but so, so scary. Also, like, very emotional as someone with an alcoholic father.

[Michael McMillan]

Yet I've never, never read the Shining book. I think maybe we mentioned that on the in Anna Camp's episode, but never read it.

[Riley Bray]

Yes, you fear me out of just never having gotten to it.

[Michael McMillan]

I should. I read it. I loved it. It is wild. It's a wild ride. Very big book, too. Viracocha or Viracocha?

[Riley Bray]

Viracocca, I think Viracocha.

[Michael McMillan]

Viracocha says I was born in Peru, living in Ma, I guess. Massachusetts. Sure. And I very much enjoyed the Nazca Lines episode. Going to Nazca is the last thing on my list of things to see in Peru. I can also confirm that they look great as tattoos. I have the monkey, the spider and hummingbird tattooed on my arm.

[Riley Bray]

That's pretty rad.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah, very rad.

[Riley Bray]

Cool.

[Michael McMillan]

I love that. Nice. Thanks for sharing.

[Riley Bray]

I hope you make it over there. Vera Coacha Yeah. Sean Leslie says are y' all going to do Crowley's bullskin Bolskine?

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah, Bull skin.

[Riley Bray]

Bull skin House on the shores of Loch Ness. And as is well known, once owned by Jimmy Page. Oh, yeah, I've heard of that.

[Michael McMillan]

We talked about it a little bit in our Loch Ness episode. Way, way, way, way, way 17 with Craig Ferguson.

[Riley Bray]

Crazy.

[Michael McMillan]

I can't believe we held him hostage and made him talk about Loch Ness.

[Riley Bray]

For like, in his own studio.

[Michael McMillan]

His own studio. I've thought about it. I don't know if we'll get to it. As we're closing in on the last month of big strange vacation. I don't know if we'll get to it before the end of the summer, but I definitely would like to get to it at some point and it might be. Be in a deep dive on Alistar Crowley, because that's something that I definitely want to do at some point is to a couple parter. A deep dive on. On Crowley. So, Sean, your head's in the right place and it's a place that we will cover eventually. That's what I'm going to say. Nikki Rotunda says. Great episode. The Jaws movie special. I live near the Evans City Cemetery. Oh, that's the place that Jessica said was super spooky.

[Riley Bray]

Right.

[Michael McMillan]

And I'm also a medium. And before I fully understood my mediumship abilities, my partner randomly took me to the Evans City Cemetery on a fun adventure. And lol. It was the most terrified I've ever felt. I've also been in a ton of cemeteries. I picnic at cemeteries. I love them. But this was unlike anything I've ever felt. I feel like the spirits of the people that are buried there are really, really pissed off about the movie. And that's where the energy is coming from. Fair enough.

[Riley Bray]

All right.

[Michael McMillan]

I'd be upset too, I guess. Although we have Hollywood forever here where we watch movies in the cemetery in the summer. That's where David lynch is buried. I went by.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah, but it's full of, like, actors and producers and directors.

[Michael McMillan]

I feel like the dead people there are so happy that we're there. I feel like the souls are. It's a very magical feeling.

[Riley Bray]

They're into it.

[Michael McMillan]

They're into it. I got to fix my colander. My colander, my colander.

[Riley Bray]

Oh, there we go. It's a calendar on your caller.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah.

[Riley Bray]

So it's always with you or. And you can use it to strain noodles.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah, that's better than what I was going to pitch, which is a calendar about what collar you're going to wear that day.

[Riley Bray]

Oh, you kind of plan your collars. Or a colander that has a calendar in it so when you strain your pasta, you can check your upcoming appointments.

[Michael McMillan]

You can make it like, you know, because it's round. It could be like an astrological calendar.

[Riley Bray]

A colander.

[Michael McMillan]

An astrological colander.

[Riley Bray]

Trademark.

[Michael McMillan]

McMills Bray Productions.

[Riley Bray]

That's right. If anybody wants to run with it, we will. We will take 40%, and the rest is yours.

[Michael McMillan]

All yours, baby. All right, well, thanks for swinging by. Commenters club. Get right Ready, Riley? God, what is up with my guys? I don't know what's happening. I got the flu today. I don't really, but it's my mouth. I don't know what's happening. Riley.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah?

[Michael McMillan]

Cue that music. Ready?

[Riley Bray]

Oh, I'm trying really fast, but I.

[Michael McMillan]

Don'T think we're gonna get there. I brought. Oh, you're gonna have to wait for the music. Cue.

[Riley Bray]

We did it.

[Michael McMillan]

We did it. This is from Futurism, my favorite futuristic website. Scientists say Earth may be trapped inside a huge, strange void. Did you hear about this?

[Riley Bray]

I didn't, but I believe it.

[Michael McMillan]

We're living in a strange cosmic neck of the woods. I mean, it's a big, strange vacation. We're talking about weird places. We might as well talk about where the hell we are in the universe. Astronomers who examine the sound waves from the Big Bang say that the Earth and the entire Milky Way galaxy we call home could be trapped in a huge void billions of light years across. Their study, which was just presented at the Royal Astronomical Society's National Astronomy Meeting in the uk, could solve one of cosmology's greatest mysteries. The Hubble Tension, or why the older universe appears to be expanding more slowly than younger regions. Is this something you're aware of, your spacey guy?

[Riley Bray]

I don't know about this great sense of the word particular term, but I have heard about different rates of expansion in the universe. But that. That's interesting. I don't. I don't know about this.

[Michael McMillan]

Well, we're going to find a little bit more. The Hubble tension is a large. Is largely a local phenomenon with little evidence that the expansion rate disagrees with expectations in the standard cosmology. Further back in time, Indranil Banik, a cosmologist from the University of Portsmouth, who. Who led the research, said in a statement about the work. So a local solution, like a local void, is a promising way to go about solving the problem. Our universe is expanding at an accelerated rate. But precisely what rate is a matter of intense debate. When astronomers analyzed a cosmic microwave background. We're getting to some Fantastic Four stuff here. The light left over from the Big Bang and the oldest light in the universe. The rate is slower compared to that derived from observations in the nearby universe of type E supernovas and luminous pulsing stars known as cephaheds.

[Riley Bray]

I think that's type 1A.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah. Type 1A. I figured that out. I was going to go back. Or Type I. Yeah. Type 1. Yeah. Type. Yeah. Supernovas. They did a ruminomal next to a lowercase a. It looks like Ia.

[Riley Bray]

It does. It looks like a sort of a place. In Star wars maybe.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah. Type 1A supernovas and cepheids. I don't know what a Cepheid.

[Riley Bray]

Never heard that term before.

[Michael McMillan]

The discrepancies become undeniable. And its implications are so profound that it's been dubbed a crisis in cosmology. Now we're getting into some DC Comics territory. Is our understanding of the universe wrong? Is there some new physics we are yet aware of? But this latest research could pump the brakes a little. If the Earth happens to be near the center of a low density void in space approximately a billion light years in radius and roughly 20% below the universe's aver average density, that could neatly explain the discrepancy as the void is emptying out. He continues, the velocity of objects. Oh. Bannock explains that such a region would cause matter to be pulled by gravity towards the higher density exterior of the void, leading to the void becoming emptier with time. That is wild. So it's like stretching us out and then leaving like.

[Riley Bray]

And the further it's. There's more gravity on the outside. So everything's pulling out.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah. It's like the void is all those, you know, like when you pull on dough and those holes appear as the void is emptying out. He continues, the velocity of objects away from us would be larger than if the void were not there. This therefore gives the appearance of a faster local expansion rate.

[Riley Bray]

Sure, sure.

[Michael McMillan]

Wow. So if this void exists, Bannock argues, then it would distort the bao, which is the baryon acoustic oscillations. We're in way over our head here.

[Riley Bray]

Way over. Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

In a way that could measure. That we could measure. After analyzing all BAO measurements taken over the last 20 years, that's exactly what Bionic says he's found. So I think all of this is shorthand for we live in the sticks, baby. Planet Earth, the Milky Way is In the sticks. And if there is a lot of life out there in the universe and there's, like, cool Star wars happening somewhere out there, we. We're out in, like, the unknown regions. We are. We're lonely.

[Experian Announcer]

Right.

[Riley Bray]

Outpost Planet.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah, that's my takeaway from it, you know?

[Riley Bray]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

And it explains a lot. It would explain maybe why we haven't been brought into the fold, you know, we're just too damn far away. We're getting those alien gray probes that everyone back in the populated parts of the universe. Like those weird things.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah. Can you. Can you believe it? Got all the way out there.

[Michael McMillan]

Wow. Yeah, they're like, my great, great, great grandfather sent that all the way out there. We don't even use the grays anymore.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

You know. You know, all right.

[Riley Bray]

We're the rednecks of the universe.

[Michael McMillan]

I mean, come on. Tracks, tracks, doesn't it? I just think it's cool. That's where we are. We're in a big, strange void. And explains a lot of my emotions lately.

[Riley Bray]

I feel like, hey. As that big strange void continues to expand. Next summer pulled even rapid more rapidly to the edges.

[Michael McMillan]

BCC's big strange void, where we just. We just air empty space in every episode.

[Riley Bray]

It's just us staring at the camera, just really contemplating life choices.

[Michael McMillan]

Guys, Supercast is gonna be great. We're so excited.

[Riley Bray]

You're gonna love it.

[Michael McMillan]

You're gonna love it. All right, well, Riley, it is time once again for High Strangeness and. Okay, our next big strange destination along our vacation route. Now, what we're going to talk about today is a place that I learned about probably back in high school, but didn't know that much about. One of my acting teachers at Interlochen told me about this place and I've always had, like, a vivid memory of it, and it's kind of been shortlisted, or I should say long listed on the podcast as a place to cover. It's a very mysterious place and there's a lot of heated debate about it. And it invol also involves a very cranky local historical society, which I find to be one of the most appealing elements. Always a great detail of this story.

[Riley Bray]

Just a whole room of. Well, actually, yes.

[Michael McMillan]

And they are not happy with the local lore. So shall we get into it?

[Riley Bray]

Let's get into it.

[Michael McMillan]

Here we go. What's in a name? In the case of the surname Dudley, it appears to carry a curse, at least for a certain branch of the family tree that settled in Cornwall, Connecticut, way back in the 18th century according to legend. Though there are many troublesome facts interfering with it, a great deal of mystery remains. Three brothers, Dudley, Gideon, Abiel and Barzillai. A name that should never have gone out of style.

[Riley Bray]

Seriously, all these names.

[Michael McMillan]

Barzillai is awesome. That's great. It's a great name for a cat. If any of you guys have a cat that you're trying to figure out a name for, I suggest Barzillai. Gom Baz.

[Riley Bray]

Oh yeah. Baz 3.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah, right. Baz. Bar's Alai. O such cool name. Three brothers Dudley established a small village alongside one to Thomas Griffiths in the early 1740s. Residents of the area know it today as the most cursed place in the world. It's time for our next destination Club Scouts. We're headed to Dudleytown. Wow.

[Riley Bray]

Okay.

[Michael McMillan]

I know. It doesn't sound very spooky, does it?

[Riley Bray]

Not so doomy sounding. Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

No, no. The Curse of Dudleytown. Or the Doom of Dudleytown as it is sometimes called. Yeah, that's the name of the episode. The D. Doom of Dudleytown.

[Riley Bray]

All right. Cool.

[Michael McMillan]

Is said to trace back to the Dudley brothers English ancestor Edmund Dudley, who was executed by the Crown. Dudley's alleged act of betrayal earned him. He tried to overthrow King Henry vii. Earned him a curse upon his family tree which saw the executions of his son John Dudley, his grandson Guilford Dudley and Guilford's wife, Lady Jane Gray, all of whom were executed during the tumultuous and time of the tutors. Remember this was. We talked about this some Lady J. Lady Gray, Jane Gray's execution and Edmund or Guilford Dudley's execution in our Tower of London episode because that's where she was held the Queen of Nine Day for nine days. Astute listeners may recall these executions for our episode of the Tower of London with Ryan Gall. If you believe the story that a curse followed Edmund's descendants Gideon, Abel and Barzillai. The that that curse may have caused a downfall of the Dudley town community. Or maybe it was just the land.

[Riley Bray]

Wait, so who placed the curse?

[Michael McMillan]

So the curse fell on the Gideon's ancestor Edmund Dudley after he tried to overthrow the basically God cursed him because he tried to overthrow. That's what I think. No one ever says. Like there was not a wizard that cursed him. It was just like the family name was cursed. After Edmund Dudley tried to overthrow King Henry vii, he was executed. And because we're, you know, this is after the War of Roses and we're like in the whole like Tutor Mary Queen of Scots and Elizabeth. And all that drama where everyone was vying for the crown and trying to kill cousins and every sisters and brothers and everybody to have control of the crown. That Edmund Dudley was essentially cursed by God, trying to overthrow the. You know, because if you were king back then, you were God's chosen. Yeah, exactly. You're appointed by God, so.

[Riley Bray]

Got it.

[Michael McMillan]

That's what I think. It's just sort of a general curse. Family's cursed.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

Now, one tricky thing about Dudley Town is that there technically is no Dudley Town, Connecticut.

[Riley Bray]

Okay.

[Michael McMillan]

It is merely an area of land that is now privately owned and incorporated into the township of. Of Cornwall. At its height, the village of Dudleytown was still very small. About 26 families in total lived there in the mid-19th century. But the township survived for 100 years despite some significant challenges. First and foremost, the land was intended by the Dudleys and Griffiths for farming. Yet most of the soil was rocky and very poor for growing crops. Dudleytown also sat in the shadows of three large hills, casting the village in a type of perma gloom. Even at high noon, there was very little direct sunlight. So also not good. Not good for growing anything. Also not good. Not good for your brain, I'm gonna say.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

Not good for, like, local morale.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah. It doesn't sound great. Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

No. You never see the sun here in the valley of, like, three mountains, and you can't grow anything here.

[Riley Bray]

We will harvest our crops in this land of rocks and darkness.

[Michael McMillan]

Yes. Yes. It's like, guys, why did you do this here? It makes no sense.

[Riley Bray]

Meadow right over there. No rocks and darkness for me, thank you.

[Michael McMillan]

I shall water the rocks with my tears. The main industry of Dudleytown was lumber. Timber was used to build ships, ship masts, and it was used for fuel for the Litchfield county iron furnaces. So, again, sort of hellish thing.

[Riley Bray]

Like just a fun, fun place, fun time to be alive, you know, Chopping.

[Michael McMillan]

Down a beautiful forest to just be burned. The iron fire.

[Riley Bray]

It's a living.

[Michael McMillan]

So what's with this alleged curse, you might ask? Dudley Town was one of those strange places where residents died of mysterious causes or vanished or went insane. There are also stories of shadow creatures lurking in the woods and prompting paranormal investigators like the infamous Ed and Lorraine Warren to label the whole place as demonic. Nathaniel Carter was one of the earliest residents to face the doom of Dudleytown. While on business, his wife and child were apparently murdered by the indigenous people. Heartbroken and traumatized, Carter left Dudleytown and relocated to New York City, where he was also murdered.

[Riley Bray]

Damn.

[Michael McMillan]

Gideon And Barzillai eventually left Dudleytown. So they got out scot free. But Abel remained. He lived to the ripe old age of 90, but not before descending into dementia. Not so doom laden when you think about it. But considering the other residents deaths, you can see how the reputation of a curse began to rise. Abel's friend, Gershon Hollister, another badass name here. Gershon Hollister is like name of a vampire hunter. 100%.

[Riley Bray]

Ah, yes, yes.

[Michael McMillan]

You can see him carrying around like a little wooden briefcase full of wooden stakes with like only buttons, like three.

[Riley Bray]

Of his buttons on his shirt.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah. And he's got one of those like spectacles that has multiple lenses that like go click, click, click, click, click. You know, just, he's got some like pre steampunk, uhhuh, cool stuff, uhhuh staks.

[Riley Bray]

That come out of the sleeves of his jacket.

[Michael McMillan]

Yes, yes. So Gershon Hollister also met an untimely demise after falling off the roof of a barn.

[Riley Bray]

Nope, not this badass guy we just described as a guy who fell off a roof.

[Michael McMillan]

He's a clumsy idiot. Hollister had been building the barn for a resident named William Tanner, who claimed that after Gershon fell, strange creatures emerged from the woods and ate at him. This is the, this is like the first of some weird reports that there are creatures living in the woods. Okay. Tanner also fell into madness. I probably would too after witnessing that. Another resident, Sarah Fay, was killed after being struck by lightning in her front yard. Bad luck, but kind of cursy.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah, that's, that's that's at least curse adjacent.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah, yeah, curse, definitely curse adjacent.

[Riley Bray]

It's pretty cursy.

[Michael McMillan]

Sarah was the third wife of Herman Swift, a general in the Revolutionary War. The story goes that Swift also descended into madness after his wife's electrifying death. Everyone just going crazy.

[Riley Bray]

Just going crazy. Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

Presidential candidate Horace Greeley's wife, Mary Chaney, died by suicide one week before Greeley lost the race to Ulysses s. Grant in 1872.

[Riley Bray]

Wow.

[Michael McMillan]

I mean, the problem there is you're running against Ulysses S. Grant. You're not gonna win that one.

[Riley Bray]

You're not winning that one, buddy.

[Michael McMillan]

By 1900, Dudleytown had all but disappeared. One of its last residents, John Patrick Brophy, succumbed to the doom when his wife died of tuberculosis and his two young sons wandered off into the woods and vanished. It's said that Brophy also walked into the woods and never returned. And his house allegedly burned down in a mysterious fire.

[Riley Bray]

Now that is some curse.

[Michael McMillan]

This Is. This is some creepy. We're getting into, like, Robert Eggers, like, movie territory here. Yeah.

[Riley Bray]

Damn, that's wild.

[Michael McMillan]

Dudleytown today is closed off to the public, and the township of Cornwall makes it very clear that they do not want any trespassers lurking about.

[Riley Bray]

Whoa.

[Michael McMillan]

Cornwall's Historical Society website basically chastises anyone for even believing in curses and. And refutes most of the legends, often contradicting and correcting parts of the story in all caps. Their message is clear. Do not come to Dudleytown. Now. This may very well be the result of too many paranormal investigators and intrepid teens wandering onto private property and just getting local history wrong. With the border of Dudleytown drawn at the threshold of a woodland area called Dark Entry Forest.

[Riley Bray]

Okay.

[Michael McMillan]

This place is just begging to be investigated.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah. Oh, completely. They are not doing themselves any favors here.

[Michael McMillan]

It's like Chief Wiggum in that episode of Simpsons where he's like, what is your fascination with mysterious closet? Mysterious forbidden closet or my forbidden closet of mystery? That's what he says.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah. The best way to convince people there's nothing there is not allow them to see it and say, there's definitely nothing here.

[Michael McMillan]

The local government's insistence that there's absolutely nothing to see has only fueled the fires of the dust. Dudleytown mystery. What are they hiding? There's this guy on a local radio station website that I found who's basically made it his life's mission to. To, like, uncover the. The Cornwall Historical Society conspiracy that they're hiding in Dudleytown. Oh, no. Oh. Record scratch. So just as we were in the middle of that talking about the curse, I got kicked off of our studio session. So the ghost in the machine got.

[Riley Bray]

Angry and I went mad and wandered into the forest.

[Michael McMillan]

You're replaced by a shadow entity.

[Riley Bray]

Shadow skinwalker now. Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

So we were saying the. The. Oh, there's this guy on the radio. Local radio station up there who's basically made it his live submission to, like, uncover the Historical Society's secret. Like, it's like hot fuzz or something. And, like, the local, you know, like, elderly council is, like, hiding this demonic vortex from the world. It's great. And he's like, why won't they give us answers? I've reached out and they keep. They keep that. He's like, something strange is going on, and it all starts with Historical Society. And, like, one of his last articles on, like, dot 105fm in Cornwall is like, secret secrets hurt. Secret secrets are no fun. Secret secrets hurt someone. Like, he's. There's this local guy. He's, like, really trying to get to the bottom of this mystery.

[Riley Bray]

Oh, my God. That's amazing. How many people live in this privately incorporated community? What are we talking?

[Michael McMillan]

Let's look at the population of Cornwall. So Dudleytown at its height, again, was only, like, 26 families. Cornwall, Connecticut population. Cornwall, small town in Litchfield County. The population of the 2020 census was 1567. So it's very.

[Riley Bray]

That's a lot of people to be in a place that you can't go. That's crazy.

[Michael McMillan]

Well, they're on the. The. So Dudleytown. And I think I get to this in the. In the thing. We'll see.

[Riley Bray]

Okay.

[Michael McMillan]

Is Dudleytown is, like, now privately owned, right? So it's kind of like there's Cornwall, and then in Cornwall, there's basically the Connecticut version of the skinwalker ranch, which is.

[Riley Bray]

Okay, got it. So do we know how many people live in this private place that you can't.

[Michael McMillan]

Nobody lives there.

[Riley Bray]

No one. It's just owned and closed.

[Michael McMillan]

It's owned and closed. It's fenced off. There's nothing but old ruins there.

[Riley Bray]

Okay. I mean, come on. They're asking for it.

[Michael McMillan]

Yes, exactly. So the connect. So Cornwall, it's in Cornwall. And then there's, like, this little pocket that used to be Dudleytown in dark entry forest, this spooky, abandoned part of.

[Riley Bray]

Town that no one's allowed to go to, where there's definitely not a curse.

[Michael McMillan]

Okay, then there's somebody. Hold on, let me pull up. Let me just pull up the corner here.

[Riley Bray]

Hasn't been a curse here for years. Or ever.

[Michael McMillan]

I mean, it's really more like this. It's more like there is no curse. You're an idiot for thinking there's a curse. Okay, let me.

[Riley Bray]

Let me.

[Michael McMillan]

Let me bring up the Cornwall Historical Society website because it is very funny. Cornwall Historical Society. Wait, it's going to be in my search history.

[Riley Bray]

I didn't.

[Michael McMillan]

I didn't save it. It's so great. Okay, hold on. Cornwall Historical Society. Let me look. Dudleytown. Let me see what they say. Dudleytown. Googling here. Hi, everybody. Welcome to bcc, the other side, where we do everything super efficiently. No, no search results. You can't even search Dudleytown. Dudleytown. Why is Dudleytown illegal to visit Cornwall Historical Society? Dark entry forest. Yes, yes, yes. The truth about Dudleytown. Oh, here it is. Nope.

[Riley Bray]

Okay, hold on.

[Michael McMillan]

I'll see if I can find it. It's got to be in my search history. Everyone hang with me for a second while I look Anyway, I'll find it. I'll. We'll, we'll. I don't want to take up too much time looking for it, but.

[Riley Bray]

Fair enough, fair enough.

[Michael McMillan]

But literally, it's like, first of all, if you're dumb enough, literally it begins with like, if you're stupid enough to believe in curses, like, that's the first thing it says. And then it basically goes through saying like, this person didn't die of madness. This, this happened before this happened. And so it's, it's clearly like someone who is like very upset that like the historical accuracies got blown out of proportion and. Fair enough. But they clearly don't have the, like the, the sense of self awareness that they sound like they are totally hiding something.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah, here we. I got, I have. This is from the Cornwall Historical Society.

[Michael McMillan]

Okay.

[Riley Bray]

Every fall, as we get closer to Halloween, the Cornwall Historical Society receives an increased number of requests to visit Dudley Town. The answer is always no.

[Michael McMillan]

Yes. This is it. This is the one. Yeah, keep reading.

[Riley Bray]

First of all, the society does not have the right to grant permission the area of Cornwall, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Secondly, people who live in quote unquote, Dudley Town are completely fed up with the thrill seeking wouldbe ghost hunters. Imagine if someone wrote that your house was haunted even though it wasn't. And you suddenly had total strangers wandering around your yard, peering through your windows, setting fires.

[Michael McMillan]

Okay.

[Riley Bray]

And leaving litter invading your privacy on a regular basis. You wouldn't like it very much. And neither does anyone in Cornwall. Be forewarned that if you should unfortunately decide that your curiosity is more important than the privacy and property rights of Cornwall residence, you will be arrested for trespassing.

[Michael McMillan]

I mean, what a fuddy duddy. I mean, this person is begging to get a wedgie and a pie in the face.

[Riley Bray]

Totally. Right. There's a. Then they go on to post a picture of a gargoyle on a tower and say, this Cunningham Tower is full of eerie ambiance, if that's what you're looking for.

[Michael McMillan]

This is written with the attitude of a dean and in a like 1980s college comedy.

[Riley Bray]

It really is. This is so good. And it goes on and on and on. Dudley Town was never an actual town.

[Michael McMillan]

Just which. I think people actually know this. Yes.

[Riley Bray]

Oh, wow. There's a whole myth versus fact section. This is like pages and pages.

[Michael McMillan]

Angry. So angry. It's so great.

[Riley Bray]

That's just a small taste right there. Just a tiny taste.

[Michael McMillan]

I love it. It's so funny. And so. Yeah. Then there's this Radio dj who's like, what are they covering up? Oh, man, it's truly the best. I love it so much. Okay, let's get back into it. I might have that somewhere. I'll find that link for the record. Yeah, look up like io5 dot like 105 Dudleytown. I've got it somewhere in my notes. I'll find it. But anyway, I put that link in.

[Riley Bray]

The chat, so you can put it in the notes. That's from 2014 also, everybody.

[Michael McMillan]

Some believe that, like Skinwalker Ranch or the Bridgewater Triangle, Dudleytown might be a hotspot for paranormal activity or a vortex of dark energy. Remember Gershon Hollister, the guy who fell off the barn and was possibly eaten by one or more strange creatures? People report seeing his ghost wandering down the roads at night. Then there are the stories of a strange and eerie mist that rises up from the forest floor known as the Devil's Breath. It is said that anyone who breathes in this ghostly fog will soon die. Also, the entities. While I'm unsure of the exact nature of William Tanner's creatures, sometimes referred to as strange animals, there are legends of mysterious shadow beings roaming Dark entry forest. In one instance, a group of hikers claimed to have been chased out of the woods by a dark figure with no face. Another late resident of Dudleytown, Dr. William Clark, was a leading cancer researcher who supposedly came home from a trip one day, this is back in like the early 1900s, to find his wife had slipped into madness and was talking about creatures in the woods. Shortly after that, she died by suicide. Dr. Clark remained in Cornwall, however, and was one of the founding members of the Dark Entry Forest Preservation Society, a conservation effort that still exists to this day. So now I'm thinking he did see those dark creatures and he is shot in fucking Dudleytown up. And they, under the guise of forest preservation and conservation. And this because also the. The Dudleytown Historical society website praises Dr. Clark up and down. Like, they are so proud of Dr. Clark and they talk about him all the time.

[Riley Bray]

Are we about to become the second wave of this radio dj? Like, tell us the truth.

[Michael McMillan]

What are you hiding? One brave explorer wrote about his encounter with what he described as a Bigfoot in Dudleytown. Okay, this took place on December 26, 2017. The witness and his friend had snuck into Dudleytown when they heard the classic whoop sound. They could hear large footsteps following them around for several minutes before they finally decided to leave the area. When, and I quote, we reached a frozen stream that I jumped across while my buddy Was a few steps behind. I remember him saying, the energy has changed. We need to go. And he quickly. He began walking quickly. Back on the trail, I stood there, Hoping to see anything I could. I stood there for about 30 seconds, taking a deep breath, Smelling the fresh cold air, and looking around intently. I looked at my buddy and realized he was kind of far from far off. For my comfort, I hopped back over the stream and began walking back slowly, Annoyed that the journey had ended so quickly. Once I was about 6ft or so from my buddy, I looked back and saw something I'll never forget. At this point, it was almost completely dark, and I saw this creature, about 6ft tall, take two lateral steps near a tree, where it spun its body around to hide its shoulders. I kept walking and told my friend to stop running and shine the flashlight behind me the whole way back. So, not specifically. This is on sasquatch chronicles.

[Riley Bray]

Okay.

[Michael McMillan]

Website. This is a considered a bigfoot encounter, But I don't know. Sounds like a strange creature to me.

[Riley Bray]

Very strange creature. Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

There are also rumors of glowing entities that roam the forest and shadow people that crawl out of the old cellars and ruins of dudleytown. A lot of people think they're demonstrating Whether or not the doom of dudleytown Is a real phenomenon. It's clear that the lore Surrounding this area Is not going away. Maybe the historical society should lighten up and embrace the town's weird history Instead of trying to suppress it. After all, that which we call a curse by any other name Will still seem spooky.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah, they need to. You guys, guys, open it up. Do some tours, have some merch fun.

[Michael McMillan]

Oh, Here we go. I 95 Rock. This is the guy.

[Riley Bray]

Okay.

[Michael McMillan]

Lou milano is his name, and he is very upset at the historical society.

[Riley Bray]

I like that. He's equally upset. Yeah, that's good.

[Michael McMillan]

He's like. I first wrote about it in 2015, mostly as a fun halloween curiosity, but over time, it morphed into an obsession, especially between 2019 and 2021. So, basically, over the pandemic, I wonder what happened then. Why did you become so obsessed?

[Riley Bray]

What a weird time for us.

[Michael McMillan]

In 2020. What was happening?

[Riley Bray]

What could have been going on around you to push you to that?

[Michael McMillan]

I. We. What started as a surface level intrigue about an old ghost town Grew into a deep dive into secrecy, Strange stories, and unanswered questions. I sent freedom of information requests.

[Riley Bray]

Interviewed.

[Michael McMillan]

Yes. Foyer. Let's go. Interviewed paranormal investigators and sifted through police reports Only to encounter roadblocks, redactions, and defensive responses. The more I dug, the more Dudleytown seemed less like a forgotten place of history and more like a place guarding a secret it doesn't want the public to know.

[Riley Bray]

All the Historical Society had to do was send that guy a sourdough starter and he would have been just off on another tangent. They chose the wrong path and this is what happens.

[Michael McMillan]

Oh, they definitely sent him a sourdough starter, but it wasn't the type of bread that you're thinking about. So he goes on to talk about, like, he's teamed up with this paranormal investigator named Nicholas Robert Grossman, who has spent years researching Dudleytown. He describes it not just as haunted, but as something entirely different, alive, like an energy vortex. Nick talks about the total lack of sound. Oh, yeah. This is also something that comes up that the Historical Society is like, that's ridiculous. Which is this idea that there's no sound of wildlife. No wildlife, no birds, nothing but a muffled pressure, like silence in Dudleytown. Ooh, yeah. Which is creepy. I mean, that's creepy, if true.

[Riley Bray]

Super.

[Michael McMillan]

He's experienced bizarre encounters like a fern waving as if to say goodbye. We talked about the plants waving in a. A. A. John 10, Johnny 10's episode in a forest with no breeze. He believes Dudley Town might be more of a dimensional rift than a simple ghost story. And honestly, after everything I've read and experienced, I can't rule it out. The best part is he is also, like, posting these police reports of missing persons with that have, like, tons of redactions in them. Like, he is really listen. He's trying to find the truth. Here we go, Dudley. Here's one article that he entitled Dudleytown, Cornwall, Connecticut, Responds to Freedom of Information Request. So now he's just writing. This is the one that I think he. He ends with. Okay, here we go. They say you're only as sick as your secrets. Whether the town itself or the residents of Cornwall, believe it or not, you are perceived as keeping a secret. I'm pretty sure there is no secret. You just look like you have one. Perception is reality, and your reality is suspect. The fact that I was told not to go there in the first line of the response is ridiculous. I did not ask to go to the property. And that is bad optics, man. He wrote, man in the article. Person 1 hey, can I borrow a pen? Person 2 Don't go in my book bag. Person 1 Internal dialogue. What the hell is in that book bag? I gotta get in that book bag. Hashtag woods. Hashtag, show us your woods.

[Riley Bray]

Show us your woods.

[Michael McMillan]

Hashtag Open up your woods. Hashtag. Hashtag.

[Riley Bray]

Living in that dark entry.

[Michael McMillan]

Hashtag, what the hell are you.

[Riley Bray]

Oh, my God.

[Michael McMillan]

Oh, God.

[Riley Bray]

The day that you get to the post where you're ending it with hashtag, what the hell are you hiding? You're in too deep.

[Michael McMillan]

Oh, God, it's so great. Yeah. And in one of these rants, he. He literally ends it with, secret secrets are no fun. Secret secrets hurts him. What?

[Riley Bray]

These.

[Michael McMillan]

These characters are my favorite. Lou Milano going against. Listen, and I'm 100% on Lumalano side. I just want to say I'm not on the stuffy Historical Society side.

[Riley Bray]

What are you hiding?

[Michael McMillan]

But you know that whoever is writing, whoever's working in the Historical Society is like, oh, God, this guy won't leave me alone. You know what? They have, like, a Carol Rankin Tiger King relationship. Where's the documentary about?

[Riley Bray]

They almost kind of need each other in a way.

[Michael McMillan]

They do. They're like Batman and the Joker. Exactly. Yeah.

[Riley Bray]

There's a beauty to the dance.

[Michael McMillan]

Forgive my line. Spacing, punctuation, and grammar. I'm excitable as it is, and I was inspired and ready to do work. What I got back was an email, a short one, sent from a mobile device. Rude. Yeah. Good morning, Louis. Regarding your Freedom of Information request, let me begin by telling you that Dudleytown is an area of town privately owned by the Dark Entry Forest Association. No one is allowed on the property without permission from the association. So name redacted. Cornwall tax collector is emailing you with information about tax payments. So is this guy behind on his taxes?

[Riley Bray]

I think it's just. That's just public record.

[Michael McMillan]

Oh, I got you.

[Riley Bray]

Just try to give him something that's already available.

[Michael McMillan]

Fair enough. Fair enough. Yes. The town of Cornwall does not have a police station department. Cornwall is covered by Connecticut State Police. Troopy in North Canyon, Connecticut. You will need to contact them for police records. I mean, this sounds okay. You know, they seem nice. He's upset about all of this.

[Riley Bray]

Somebody who works in a city office is like, this guy.

[Michael McMillan]

I know. The local media versus the local Historical Society. Oh, God, I love it. There you go. Dudleytown. The doom of Dudleytown.

[Riley Bray]

I love it.

[Michael McMillan]

I gotta keep. I'm gonna stay on.

[Riley Bray]

Is the. The friends we met along the way really.

[Michael McMillan]

Incredible? I love it.

[Riley Bray]

Well, let's go visit, huh?

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah, we should go.

[Riley Bray]

Come on, everybody.

[Michael McMillan]

There's all these pictures online of, like, people standing by, the, like, do not trespass signs. People sneak in there all the time. It's just. It's also just like, there's nothing else to do, guys. Let them go into Dark Entry Forest, Rename it something else.

[Riley Bray]

Call it that doing.

[Michael McMillan]

What are you doing? Oh, my God.

[Riley Bray]

It's like your. Your town is called definitely not Cursed Town. Like, it's just.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah. And, like, there's so much. This. This just reads like a movie where people, like, go dig in the. The, like, old city town records and find photographs. It's like. Like someone's gonna find a photograph of Dr. William Clark in, like, 1900 and, like, 2010. We're gonna find out that he's still. Still alive somehow, you know? Or that whoever's running the Historical society has been around. Been alive for 200 years. Yep. There's, like, weird photographs that are going to have strange faces in them in this story.

[Riley Bray]

I really want to know who owns it and why they're hanging on to it.

[Michael McMillan]

Show me your woods.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

Hashtag who owns Dudley Town?

[Riley Bray]

This is how it starts, Michael. This is your first step.

[Michael McMillan]

It's been. Oh, it. Well, they said this. It's owned by the Dark Entry Forest Incorporation, which I think Dr. William Clark Hill or something. Exactly like. Come on. Yep.

[Riley Bray]

Come on, guys.

[Michael McMillan]

Yep. It's under the guise of the Dark Entry woods historical preservation. Come on. This is very Twin Peaksy, too, by the way.

[Riley Bray]

Or like Stranger Things are just. Just because you're. You've made a delicious sandwich and put a little sign that says, do not eat. What are you thinking?

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah. Yeah. You put out, like, a candy dish and said, not good candy, bad candy.

[Riley Bray]

Bad candy. Don't eat.

[Michael McMillan]

Yours was better. All right, everybody. That's the epic of deadly town. I'm. I'm turning into this DJ now, but I. I do want to keep tabs on this war that's happening. I need to maybe do it more of a deep dive and find out more about the drama here. Read all of his posts and find out what's happening.

[Riley Bray]

This incredible movie with the tone of, like, best in show kind of vibe.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah. And you know that he's got a YouTube channel where he's posting videos. We got to get him on the show. Why don't we just get him on the show? Let's get him on the show. He'll talk to him about it.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

Hashtag, show me your woods.

[Riley Bray]

Show me your woods.

[Michael McMillan]

What are you hiding in the. Hashtag, what are you hiding in the woods? Hey, club scouts, here we are back in present day with your old host, Michael Skull mchellian, about to close the lid on zombie bigfoot's crypticrypt. For 2025 at least here on the free feed. Join us over at BCC docs supercast.com on Friday for an all new episode on the Other side. Little A little trick or treat special for everybody. There you go, everybody. The Doom of Dudley Town. I just out of Curiosity, glance at i95rock.com's website to see if we had any updates about Dudleytown. Nothing really. But I did find some. Some photos of an old Bennigans. Let's stop by Collector's corner, shall we? This is the part of the show where we talk about things that we're currently into or whether we have things to plug. I have a plug, I have a non plug and then I have a plug again. So let's start with the non plug. I saw this weekend with my wonderful fiance. We went and saw Shelby Oaks, a new horror movie that's playing right now in theaters. Now let me tell you something. Listen, it's hard to make a movie, okay? Have I done it? Have I, have I gone out, made a movie on my own? No. So who am I to talk? But I do love paranormal stuff and I love horror movies. I had, I had mixed to negative feelings about Shelby Oaks. It started off great in a way. I was like, oh, this is going to be a movie that I'm going to recommend to the club scouts. Because it kicks off with this almost it. Well, not almost. It is like the first part of the movie is like a documentary, fake documentary about a paranormal investigation team that went missing in the mid-2000s. And then there's like spooky first person stuff, spooky found footage stuff. And it gets into like things that we've talked about on the show many, many times. I was like, all right. But then the movie kind of changes up its format. It becomes more of a traditional narrative film and I just got bored. I really did. There were a couple good scares in it and I like the idea. I didn't love the execution. So if you're thinking about seeing Shelby Oaks, I don't know, maybe you'll enjoy it. It's definitely a BCC style movie. I just, you know, if I was going to give it, as we would say on the other side, if I was going to give this 10 out of 10. What's. I'll just say 10, 10 out of 10. Shelby Oaks. I would give it maybe like a four. Shelby Oaks. And I, I said proceed with caution. It's not offensive. I just was disappointed in the movie. We were hoping for more and we got less however, moving on to the plug plug. I have finally been watching Interview with the Vampire, the AMC show that is now seasons one and two are on Netflix. And let me tell you something, I love it. I love the show. If you were a True Blood fan, you've got to be watching Interview with a Vampire. It is the show that I think has come closest to the tone of True Blood, especially the parts that take place in modern day. You'll see it very quickly and obviously True Blood and the Southern Vampire Chronicles were heavily influenced by Anne Rice's works. But I just like the sense of humor is there, the gores there and used very sparingly and very effectively. The characters are there, the acting is fantastic, the writing is fantastic. I don't understand. The costumes are amazing. I don't understand why more people are not aware of how good this show is. It should be winning awards. So if you're looking for something good and spooky and if you're like missing True Blood or or vampire shows, you've got to watch Interview with the Vampire. And obviously they've taken a few liberties with with the book, but I love every choice that they've made. I love the show. And then season three, which is basically, I think they're even retitling it to Be the Vampire. Le is coming out very soon and I am so excited. Great show. High, high recommendations, Perfect Halloween week watch and easy to catch up on. Seven, seven episodes in the first season and I think only eight in the second season. So you're not like giving, you know, you know what I mean? Like you don't have to give yourself a month to watch this whole thing. Great show. And then finally I want to plug this week on Sage Based Wisdom, hosted by our dear friends Janice Schmieding and Brian Bahi. I'm the guest and I'm talking about spooky stuff per usual. I had a great time with them. It's a great show. Be sure to follow Sage Based Wisdom if you're not doing that already. All right everybody. That concludes Zombie bigfoot's crypticrypt for 2025. Unless you want to see us over at BCC the other side on Friday. If we don't see you over there, we will see you back here next week for an all new episode of Bigfoot Collectors Club. Until then, good night and go get regressed. 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