"Jumped by a Carolina Pale Walker"

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Bigfoot Collectors Club

Episode: "Jumped by a Carolina Pale Walker"

Date: October 22, 2025
Hosts: Michael McMillan & Riley Bray
Podcast: Bigfoot Collectors Club (Wood Elf Media)

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Episode Overview

This episode brings listeners into the heart of the spooky season with BCC boys Michael McMillan and Riley Bray, sans guests, as they dig into bizarre news, dissect internet-born cryptids like the "Carolina Pale Walker," and swap high strangeness stories from fans in their popular “L Files” segment. The boys maintain their trademark blend of humor and genuine enthusiasm for the paranormal, riffing on internet culture, cursed motels, and listener encounters that swing from hilarious to hair-raising.

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Main Discussion & Key Segments

1. Clubhouse Banter Update & Plugs

• Discord Activity: The hosts share how lively the BCC Clubhouse Discord has become, inviting listeners to join the “bubbling little online environment.” ([02:19])

• Riley’s New Wind Chime App: Riley introduces “Py Chimes,” a browser-based, generative wind chime.

  "If you give this man some time alone, he's just gonna build some bots...That's what he was put on earth to do, is make some fun beeps." – Michael ([03:11])

• Merch Reminder: The hosts plug limited edition Halloween merch with urgency and playful dramatics. ([03:36])

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2. Spooky News Stories

A. Russian Woman Sells Her Soul for Dolls

• Summary: In Russia, a woman sells her soul (signed in blood) for 100,000 rubles to fund her Labubu doll collection and concert tickets. The story escalates when the Russian Orthodox Church condemns her, predicting grave consequences.
• Humor & Commentary: Riley and Michael riff on the morality tale:

  "I could sell it for some Kenner Star Wars action figures." – Michael ([09:00])
  "This is a rare triple win right here." – Riley ([08:44])

B. Viral Carolina Pale Crawler 911 Call ([09:47]-[19:04])

• A viral TikTok circulates of a chilling North Carolina 911 call: a driver describes seeing a bleeding man on the road, then finds a non-human entity has leapt into the bed of his pickup truck. Panic and fear are audible as the dispatcher attempts to make sense of the event.

  911 CALL: “…that's not human. That's no human.” ([10:00])

• Authenticity: Skepticism abounds online, but Snopes and local authorities confirm the call was real; no physical evidence of the creature was found, but the incident is corroborated by law enforcement. ([13:21])

• Cryptid Lore Crossover: The “Carolina Pale Crawler,” possibly inspired by the internet's “Rake” myth or custom 4chan cryptids, is seen bleeding into the real world.

  "Talk it into existence, and now people are seeing it. … In a very John El Penny [way]—talk it into existence and it’ll come." – Michael ([16:58])

• Analysis: The hosts praise the “realness” of this strange event among a sea of fakes:

  "It's nice that, like, that's a verified call in this world of AI slop." – Riley ([18:42])

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3. Big Scary Vacation – Paranormal Places Roundup ([22:03]-[41:33])

A. Hill of Crosses (Lithuania)

• Vast field of crosses; described as "someone art directed a Batman movie on meth."

  "It looks like a place where you will be ritualistically sacrificed." – Riley ([24:45])

B. Hanging Coffins of Sagada (Philippines)

• Unique funerary tradition with centuries-old coffins perched on cliffs; hosts reflect on the poignancy and spookiness.

C. Door to Hell (Turkmenistan)

• Ever-burning crater, with side-discussion on the (possibly apocryphal) presence of camel spiders, much to Michael's horror.

D. Snake Island (Brazil)

• Home to golden lancehead vipers, among the world’s deadliest; infamous for its density of venomous snakes—with a running joke about the island's positive Google reviews.

  "Some claim that the snakes staged a unified attack on them." – Michael ([35:36]) "Snakes were very friendly and welcoming. They give you loving bites. I love the internet." – Riley ([37:27])

E. Clown Motel (Tonopah, NV)

• Lined with 5,000+ clown collectibles and adjacent to a cemetery, the motel is reputedly haunted—and, according to reviews, dirty.

  "'This is the worst motel in history...the bed smelled like gunk. No working showers or toilets. Haunted rooms. Clowns watching you sleep.'" – Riley (reading review, [40:53])

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4. L Files: Listener Stories ([41:55]-[70:22])

A. Heather's Blue UFO Follow-Up ([41:55])

• Recap: Heather updates her earlier story of seeing a bright blue orb/UFO in Indiana and answers listener questions about size, proximity, and uniqueness of her encounter.

  "I like to think it was just there for me. Mystery Yeet. Person. Slash Heather." – Heather ([44:09])

B. Poncho Cilantro: Air Traffic Controller UFOs ([45:03])

• Story: Multiple pilots report—over public radio frequencies—witnessing three high-altitude, rotating luminous objects (possibly orbs) above Albuquerque that defied explanation and didn’t appear on radar. Conversation dominated emergency radio channels for almost 30 minutes.

  “In an odd moment of confusion, many pilots began discussing what this could possibly be and asking if anyone else was seeing what they were seeing.” – Poncho Cilantro ([47:41]) "If somebody digs that file, I'll run it through some filters." – Riley ([50:31])

C. Jessica: Ghostly Hello and Dreams of Crystal ([55:01])

• Experience: Jessica recounts a disembodied "hello" whispered into her ear, and a sequence of dreams in which she meets her deceased best friend, Crystal, helping her out of a maze-like cornfield—a motif that strikes the hosts as mythically resonant and emotionally significant.

  "That dream is very beautiful and cinematic and kind of mythological...there's a sweetness to it." – Riley ([59:15])

D. Danielle G.: Eight Months in a Haunted House ([61:29])

• Details:
  • Family moves in with husband’s grandmother; baby sleeps in a room where both a relative and the grandfather died.
  • Danielle experiences frequent paranormal activity: “big bright white orb zoomed past”, drastic temperature drops, nightly ghostly visitations, and objects moving.
  • Physical manifestations include someone grabbing her ankle in bed and feeling her hair played with—ending only when she tells it to stop.

  “I watched as the temperature in the room rapidly dropped. ... Eventually the orb went away, our baby lay back down to go to sleep, and the temperature in the room quickly rose.” – Danielle ([64:14]) “Living in that for eight months, it turns from the scariest thing in the world to, like, annoyance hands...‘Will you knock it off?’” – Riley ([67:36])

  • Danielle asks whether hosts (or their podcast) contributed to the haunting.

  "There are some people in the mediumship business who might say listening to the podcast was sending a signal to the other side that you're open. So maybe we did have a hand in this." – Michael ([69:19])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Discord culture:

  "It's like happening. It's a bubbling little online environment." – Riley Bray ([02:19])

• On viral Pale Crawler lore:

  "We talked it into existence, and now...people are seeing it. In a very John El Penny. Talk it into existence and it’ll come." – Michael McMillan ([16:58])

• On haunted travel spots:

  "It looks like a place where you will be ritualistically sacrificed." – Riley Bray ([24:45]) "A fart that you lit on fire that never went out." – Michael McMillan (re: Door to Hell, [29:14])

• Listener story reactions:

  "I'm getting goosebumps, dude." – Michael McMillan (in response to orb story, [64:14])
  "They should use this to teach high strangeness in universities. I mean, this is..." – Riley Bray ([67:10])

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Timestamps of Important Segments

• [03:36] – Limited edition Halloween merch plug
• [05:40] – Russian “Sold My Soul” story
• [09:47] – Carolina Pale Crawler viral 911 call discussed
• [13:21] – Snopes & Sheriff’s confirmation of the 911 call authenticity
• [22:03] – “Big Scary Vacation” segment: haunted/strange travel sites
• [41:55] – Listener L Files: Heather’s blue orb update
• [45:03] – Air traffic controller UFO report from Poncho Cilantro
• [55:01] – “Hello” ghost and dream visitations from Jessica
• [61:29] – Danielle’s 8-month haunted house saga

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Tone and Style

• Language: Witty, colloquial, candid, with recurring self-deprecating humor.
• Atmosphere: A blend of spooky and hilarious; enthusiastic about the high strangeness but down to earth.
• Community Spirit: Emphasis on listener submissions, Discord camaraderie, and inside jokes.

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Takeaways for First-Time Listeners

• The Bigfoot Collectors Club blends genuine curiosity about the paranormal with a strong comedic sensibility.
• Even familiar internet cryptids and moth-eaten urban legends get a fresh spin through deep research and irreverent banter.
• Listener stories are treated as the emotional heart of the show, with hosts offering earnest engagement, mythological insights, and encouragement.
• The episode is a perfect Halloween amuse-bouche: creepy, funny, sometimes touching, always unpredictable.

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Transcript

[Riley Bray]

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[Michael McMillan]

Style, every home Bigfoot Collectors Club presents Terrifying tales from Zombie Bigfoot's Cryptid Cryp I know a ghost story about you robots. Robots at Halloween. Robots at Halloween. Robots like candy too Robots knock on your door and they say trick or treat. What's up, everybody?

[Riley Bray]

Hey, it's the robots. It's the Halloween robots.

[Michael McMillan]

It's a Halloween robot. It's the new BCC special. Welcome back to Zombie Bigfoot's cryptic crypt right here on Bigfoot Collectors Club. The others. No, no. Whoa. It really is a spooky season. I don't know where I am. This is a regular old Bigfoot Collectors Club. I'm your host, Mike Skull mchellian, and with me always is the rotting rocker.

[Riley Bray]

That one might hit a little too close to home. Riley Brain Brain Self.

[Michael McMillan]

Submitted by tiny Plastic dragon over on Discord. Discord. Which if you're not a member of BCC clubhouse and you should be [e-mail] we're having a lot of fun over there, everybody. We're, we're, we're having so much fun on the Discord. I've been hanging out there a lot, actually, lately.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah, I've been, I've been, I've been poking over more and more. It's. It's like happening. It's a bubbling little online environment.

[Michael McMillan]

It's really fun. Are you going to turn Discord into, like a wind sock?

[Riley Bray]

You know what? That's actually a really good idea. I'm going to start working on that.

[Michael McMillan]

You should just take any application and turn it into something that typically makes noise outside of your house. I'm of course referring to your program that we talked about last week. Do you want to remind everybody what it is so they know what we're talking about.

[Riley Bray]

You guys go to peacedrone.net, check out the py chimes. It turns your web browser into a python based wind chime. That sounds complicated, but it's really nice. It's just so pleasant. It's just beautiful. Pleasant sound coming out of your computer. And it'll run forever. No samples. It's generative.

[Michael McMillan]

Riley's a tinkerer, everybody.

[Riley Bray]

That's true.

[Michael McMillan]

You know, he'll say, he'll get caught up on his life. Or he'll say, I'm gonna organize the bookshelf. Or he'll say, you know, I'm gonna do some gardening. But if you. If you give this man some time alone, he's just gonna build some bots. He's just gonna build some programs. That's what he was put on earth to do, is make some fun beeps.

[Riley Bray]

And I made some really fun ones. You guys. I promise you'll like it.

[Michael McMillan]

I. I love this so much. Peacetron.net keystone.net Everybody, while we're plugging things, check out our fourth wall shop, which is our merch store. It's. You can find the link to the show notes in this episode and over on our Instagram. Epic Foot Collectors Club. Guys, we are winding down October, which means that very soon our zombie Bigfoot Cryptic Crypt Merch by the one and only James Mulholland is going to go back into the vault. That cryptocrit is going to. Cryptic Crypt will shut. And then once it's closed, you know, we're not digging it out for another year at least. If that we may not even guarantee maybe never again. We may. You may never get this ever again. So if you want some fun merch. A sweatshirt. I gotta get a sweatshirt. I really want.

[Riley Bray]

I know I want a sweatshirt.

[Michael McMillan]

I'm a oversized sweatshirt guy. And I'm so glad it's oversized sweatshirt weather. Once again. I specifically put an oversized one on the shop because that's what I want to wear. So nice.

[Riley Bray]

I need one of those, you know. You know, I've been wearing nothing but an oversized sweatshirt for the last four days while I've been at what Caitlin refers to as going in the matrix.

[Michael McMillan]

Well, it's been cool enough. Finally.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

God damn. Put on a hoodie today and walk the dogs.

[Riley Bray]

I was happy.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah, no guests this week. It's just your BCC boys. We're gonna dig into some L files, listener stories from you. But before we do that, Riley, get ready because we have some bcc. Boo. Well, I don't know if you heard this story. I gotta say, I dug into a corner of the Internet that I don't usually poke around to find some spooky news for this week.

[Riley Bray]

Careful with that.

[Michael McMillan]

And I came up with. Woman literally sells her soul for a collection of Labubu dolls. Okay. And this is over in Russia, or over in Europe, I guess. In a controversial social experiment, a young Russian woman signed away her soul for 100,000 rubles, which roughly comes out to $1,180, which she used to buy a Labubu doll collection and a concert ticket. It all started as a joke from a marketing expert who identified himself as Dimitri. On the Russian social network Telegram, he posted an ad offering to pay 100,000 rubles to whoever agreed to sell their soul and make it official by signing a contract with their own blood.

[Riley Bray]

Telegram is not a Russian social network.

[Michael McMillan]

That's what the story tells me.

[Riley Bray]

Okay, well, that's a reduction of what Telegram is.

[Michael McMillan]

What is Telegram?

[Riley Bray]

It's encrypted, like end to end messaging service. It's like. It's like WhatsApp. Okay.

[Michael McMillan]

He didn't expect anyone to accept the bizarre offer, but to his surprise, a 26 year old woman replied to his ad declaring her interest in selling her soul. Dimitri kept up as part of the bargain, posting the receipt for the sole sale and a photo of the young woman holding the blood signed contract with her personal information blacked out. A young woman named Karina responded, accepted the deal, signed the document, and sealed it with blood.

[Riley Bray]

The.

[Michael McMillan]

The Russian man wrote, I just bought my first soul. I definitely feel like David Jones right now. First soul. He. This guy's gonna collect them.

[Riley Bray]

Dimitri.

[Michael McMillan]

Dimitri obviously had no idea how to use his newly purchased human soul, as he mainly pulled the stunt as a social experiment. As for Karina, she told popular telegram channel MASH that she cares little for her soul, sold soul, or what its new owner decides to do with it. As for the money she got, it was quickly spent on a collection of Labubu dolls and a ticket to a concert by Russian folk singer Nadia Kadishiva. Karina may not care what happens to her soul, but the Russian Orthodox Church definitely does. After news of the soul went sale. Soul sale went viral. The church responded through its official channels, stating that the young woman truly sold her soul and therefore chose evil and predicting moral and personal decline, illness, suffering, and even death for her. Jesus Christ, guys.

[Riley Bray]

As someone who hangs out with a fair amount of Russians, this is a Russian ass story. I can't Wait for this soul.

[Michael McMillan]

The Russian Orthodox Church always shows up every story.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah, yeah. It's just. I mean, it seems like everyone got what they wanted. Yeah, Orthodox Church, I guess.

[Michael McMillan]

Oh, I think they definitely got they wanted. They get to come out and condemn a woman. It sounds like a pretty good day for them.

[Riley Bray]

This is a rare triple win right here.

[Michael McMillan]

Yes, it's a win, win, win.

[Riley Bray]

Dimitri started his collection, and this Karina started her collection. Yes.

[Michael McMillan]

Folk singer sold a concert ticket.

[Riley Bray]

It's a quad win right here.

[Michael McMillan]

We should be selling souls.

[Riley Bray]

The soul economy is going to prop us back up. Guys, this is what we need.

[Michael McMillan]

I want. I. I could sell it for some. Some Kenner Star wars action figures. Pretty fun story, you know?

[Riley Bray]

Good story. Great story.

[Michael McMillan]

Good story. Now this one we're gonna look at. I forgot to warn you before we started to record that.

[Riley Bray]

I.

[Michael McMillan]

There's a TikTok video that I want you to watch. So maybe what we should do is, like, pause here.

[Riley Bray]

No good conversations ever started.

[Michael McMillan]

You go watch this TikTok video, and then we're gonna come back because it'll make more sense when we talk about it. Everyone, this will also be up in the show notes, so you can watch it too, Riley. Yeah, just. It's a whole big.

[Riley Bray]

Oh, it'll let me. Okay, cool. Yeah, I. I left the time.

[Michael McMillan]

I'll re. Watch it.

[Riley Bray]

How do I. Give me some sound. Okay, here we go. I'm gonna leave this in it.

[911 Caller]

I'm driving on 210. I just crossed the Black river, and I thought I saw a guy standing on the side of the road bleeding. Okay, where are you at? Sir? I'm on 210. I just crossed the Black River. I'm heading towards 53 East. I just passed Patriots watch. Okay, so you're over near Morse Creek. Yes. Okay, and did you. You saw a man stand on the side of the road? What was that? Sir, that's not human. That's no human. Sir, are you okay? Sir, there's nothing in the back of my truck. Okay, what's in the road? No, it's not in the road. It's in my truck. In the bed. There's something in the bed of your truck? Yes, ma'.

[Riley Bray]

Am.

[911 Caller]

I just turned on my bed lights for my truck, and there's something in my bed. Okay, sir, when you say something, what do you mean? I just knocked it off at the bed of my truck and went over my roof. Okay, what was it?

[Riley Bray]

Okay, we can come back.

[Michael McMillan]

Okay, so there is this spooky 911 call that's been going around Tick Tock that apparently happened in North Carolina and it seems to be tying in to a larger online creepy pasta merges with real life creation of a cryptid known as the North Carolina. The Carolina Pale Crawler.

[Riley Bray]

Cool name.

[Michael McMillan]

So yeah, the Carolina Pale Crawler. So there's a Tick Tock video of a 911 call of a guy driving down the road and saying that he has seen something strange in the road. And then apparently this thing gets on his car, gets on his truck and he starts screaming, it's not human. It's not human.

[Riley Bray]

That's the best part.

[Michael McMillan]

It's a 911 responders like politely trying to help him. Now the it's been going around and people are wondering whether or not this video has been a hoax because some people are saying it's a hoax.

[Riley Bray]

Sure.

[Michael McMillan]

So this has been like this. This really started making the rounds in mid to late September on online and through the month of October. So Snopes chimed in, which I thought was interesting. And this here's the Snopes article about the whole situation. That's not human. Spooky. 911 call really happened in North Carolina. The Pender County Sheriff's Office in North Carolina confirmed the authenticity of the call. There was no video footage of the incident. So what we're watching on on Tick Tock is obviously like a AI or you know, just a video of of road. Right. So audio circulating. Here's the claim. Audio circulating in September 2025 was from a real 911 call in North Carolina in which the caller was heard shouting that's not human. In September 20th account shared videos of what sounded like an like audio from a 911 call in which a man shouted that's not human. Depending on the portion of the call audible in the video, the male voice could be heard telling a 911 operator about a bloodied man he saw on the side of the road before the conversation is interrupted by a thump and the caller's shouting. The thump, according to the caller, was something not human that fell or jumped into the bed of his pickup. The caller eventually described getting the thing off of his truck by speeding up and then slamming on the brakes, hurling it over the hood of his vehicle.

[Riley Bray]

Classic move.

[Michael McMillan]

So the audio was shared in several Tick Tock videos. It's been collectively viewed millions of times. The call audio was shared to other social media platforms, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube. And so it has been confirmed that it was From a real 911 call made in Pender County. Now the driver did not have a dashboard camera or any other footage from the incident. The videos post on social media used unrelated footage as we established. Now the call appeared as first start spreading online with a video posted by YouTube channel Carolina Case Files on September 13. But the video is identified that the video identified the call is taking place in Pender county at 11pm 7-31-2021. So the. The call itself is older, although a time stamp Sam incorrectly used a.m. instead of p.m. okay. So they followed up with the Pender County Sheriff Alan Cutler and the and then the man who was reportedly the caller. The caller's face was not shown on camera as he was identified only by the initial T to protect his privacy. So basically they've confirmed that this thing happened. The command log shared by the sheriff's office stated that no one who responded to the scene was able to find anyone or anything struck by a vehicle and that a drone search was unsuccessful. The man who produced the Carolina case files video was Rusty Martin senior, an actor based in Wilmington, North Carolina which neighbors Pender county and an email to Snopes. Martin said that he first heard the 911 call in May of 2025 and it took time to put together the video. Martin said his biggest challenge in making the video was getting the caller to talk about the incident. So this is a. A cool call. I like that it's not a hoax. During the 911 call, the 911 operator asked a caller if it might have been a turkey. The caller denied it, saying it had no feathers and was pale. He described what he saw in the bed of his pickup as a pale figure with sunken eyes, no nose or ears and elongated limbs like a stretched out human with its face pressed up against his rear windshield.

[Riley Bray]

Christ, that's horrifying.

[Michael McMillan]

He said it was taller than his 6 foot tall pickup and it ran into the trees after he knocked it off his truck.

[Riley Bray]

Oh geez, what is that? I was like. Because I was like yes. Sounds like it could be an animal.

[Michael McMillan]

Like yeah. The caller was recorded as telling first responders that he believed he saw a s. Walker. I'm too scared to say it right now or something like it. S Walkers are figures in Navajo mythology believed to be evil, dangerous witches capable of shape shifting into animals. A copy of the deputies log notes that appeared at about 5:20. Excuse me in the Carolina case files video said that it that scratches found on the truck were consistent with tree branches. And Pender county does not include any native animals that are large feathers, feather or Featherless or pale. So this is interesting because. And a club scout sent this over to me as well. This story. I kind of started looking at all of this. There is this online tale about a Carolina Pale Crawler that I guess started as like a 4chan thing where people started sharing creepy pasta and they decided they wanted to create a cryptid known as the Carolina Pale Crawler.

[Riley Bray]

And they. We talked it into existence, and now.

[Michael McMillan]

People are seeing it in a very John El Penny. Talk it into existence and it.

[Riley Bray]

It'll come.

[Michael McMillan]

So there's a link here that I'll also include. This woman, Sharon A. Hill, wrote this is up on her. Her website called the Carolina Pale Crawler Tale. That got my attention. So she talks about this story as well. And she. A lot of people at first were like, that call is a hoax. But she basically pointed towards the Snope article, Snopes article, which is how I found it. But yeah, I guess that there's this thing. It's also referred to as a rake. The rake is. Is like a pale crawler. It's a type of entity. It's similar to the Slender Man. Gray aliens, Tall man. The rake is a fictional character. It's like a mythological creature that was created in 2005 when writers and 4chan collaborated to create a monster. But that appears to be that this Carolina Pale Crawler might be crossing over into our reality. And people are seeing it after all.

[Riley Bray]

Now. It's real. Good job, guys.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah. So another.

[Riley Bray]

Another Horror unleashed by 4chan.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah. Way to go, 4chan. Wrap it up. Shut it the down. But I just thought this was a really spooky, cool story that came across our desk recently and. Perfect spooky story for the. For the. For. For the crypto crypt season. And maybe we can pull audio and put that up. Maybe we can put that call into that space.

[Riley Bray]

It's nice that, like, that's a verified call in this world of AI Slop.

[Michael McMillan]

Exactly.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah. It's not good.

[Michael McMillan]

And good, good detective work finding out that this thing was in fact, real Internet. So good job.

[Riley Bray]

Something jumped in that guy's truck.

[Michael McMillan]

Yep, something did. I. You can hear the thump too, which is totally terrifying.

[Riley Bray]

Uhhuh.

[Michael McMillan]

All right, let's take a break. When we come back, we're going to have a little bit more fun before we dive into these L files.

[Riley Bray]

All righty.

[Michael McMillan]

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[Riley Bray]

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[Riley Bray]

I did. He, he was lovely though. So I, I, he's just going to stay for a while.

[Michael McMillan]

Turns out that Rake actually raked the leaves for you.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah, he did. And you know what? It needed to be done. So it's that kind of initiative where I'm like, you know what? All right.

[Michael McMillan]

I thought it would be fun since it's just you and me before we dive into these stories, and as we wind down October, that I put together a little segment of spooky places in the world that we might want to visit in a se that I'm calling big scary vacation. So here's a short list of some of the spookiest places on earth. I'm just going to be pulling these. We're doing a little web crawling right now. Okay, let's.

[Riley Bray]

Let's hit that worldwide web. My guy.

[Michael McMillan]

So one of the first places I found was a place called the Hill of Crosses in Lithuania. And it's terrifying if you look at pictures of this thing. I mean, this is like someone art directed a Batman movie on meth.

[Riley Bray]

That is a perfect description of this image.

[Michael McMillan]

So just outside the northern city of Help me here, Swallia Sweets, you're on your own there. Yeah. Thousands of metal and wooden crosses placed for nearly two centuries have found a home on the growing mounds of religious fervor. I'm reading from National Geographic. Dangling rosaries. Chime in the blowing. Oh, blowing wind. You need to do a dangling rose rosary.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah. Virtual cross rosary.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah. You need to make some, like, spooky sounding stuff. Provide a rolling soundtrack for icons of saints and photographs of revered local patriots. Despite many attempts to destroy it. Okay. This unusual pilgrimage site endures as a powerful testament to devotion. Legends and fables. Color. The history of the Hill of Crosses first mentioned in writing dates. First mentioned in writing dates to 1850, but some think the crosses appeared earlier, left by mourning relatives of the victims of revolts against the Russian regime in 1831 and later in 1863. The tsar suppressed national identity by limiting religious expression, so families were forbidden to honor the dead with proper. Proper, proper burial in cemeteries. Many believe the crosses cropped up at the end of the 19th century after an apparition of the Virgin Mary holding a baby Jesus asked the believers to cover the holy place with these icons. And cover. They did.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah. That's a real nice story, but you've made a truly terrifying location.

[Michael McMillan]

It looks like the.

[Riley Bray]

The. The.

[Michael McMillan]

The. The. The throne of swords from Game of Thrones.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah, it's. It's pretty.

[Riley Bray]

It looks like a place where you will be ritualistically sacrificed.

[Michael McMillan]

Yes. Is what it looks like impaled on one of these things?

[Riley Bray]

Yes.

[Michael McMillan]

So we're gonna move from crosses to coffins. Have you ever heard of the hanging coffins of Sagada Sagata?

[Riley Bray]

I have not.

[Michael McMillan]

So this is in Sagara, Philippines. And I'm reading from the Atlas Obscura website, which is a fun Way to waste time. The people of Sagara follow a unique burial ritual. The elderly carve their own coffins out of hollowed logs.

[Riley Bray]

Hardcore.

[Michael McMillan]

If they are too weak or ill, their families prepare their coffins instead. Geez Louise. Imagine you're like, I'm dying. It's time for me to build.

[Riley Bray]

Time to carve that coffin.

[Michael McMillan]

The dead are placed inside their coffins, sometimes breaking their bones in the process of fitting them in. And the coffins are brought to a cave for burial. This is just one of the many ancient rituals and traditions that the people of the Cordillera. Cordillera administrative region, collectively known as Igorots of the northern Philippines, have preserved. I'm sorry if I'm butchering this stuff. I'm cold reading, everybody. The ancient custom starts with the burial gathering led by the deceased's family and relatives. The burial includes days of mourning, butchering of livestock, and preparing the body for entombment. Thereafter, a family member carries the body to the cave or cliff where the coffin is waiting. It is believed that carrying the dead would transfer luck, blessings and talents to the family. Instead of being placed into the ground, the coffins are hung either inside the caves or on the face of the cliffs near the hanging coffins of their ancestors. This is kind of cool.

[Riley Bray]

It's pretty cool.

[Michael McMillan]

They've been practicing these such. Such burials for over 2,000 years. Wow. And some of the coffins are well over a century old. Eventually, the coffins deteriorate and fall from their precarious positions. Specifically, the coffins are suspended in the rocky cliffs of Sagata's Echo Valley. Oh, man. This is all. This all sounds like something out of. Like a fantasy novel. The reason the coffins were hung was due to the belief that the higher the dead were placed, the greater their chance of their spirits reaching a higher nature. And afterlife. In the afterlife, many of the locations of the coffins are difficult to reach and obviously should be left alone out of respect, but can be appreciated from afar. Such practices serve as a testament to the enduring culture of the Igorot people. This sacred burial site is also a part of the people's rich historical, spiritual and cultural heritage. And fun. And I gotta say, spooky.

[Riley Bray]

Also spooky. Culturally enriching and spooky. Why can't it be? The one part of this that I just is echoing in my mind is the part where Grandma doesn't quite fit and you just start breaking bones to.

[Michael McMillan]

Get her in there. Yeah.

[Riley Bray]

That is.

[Michael McMillan]

I just think the day. The spooky part for me is the day that you know you have to make your coffin now.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah, brother, you're doing that every day.

[Michael McMillan]

So the next, every day you just.

[Riley Bray]

Carve in that car coffin, brother, Chipping.

[Michael McMillan]

Away at it whether you know it or not. That's right. So this next place has been a spot that people asked us about during big strange vacation if we would cover and the answer is no. But we're going to talk about it right now. Have you ever heard about the door to hell?

[Riley Bray]

Is that where that one like audio sound was recorded?

[Michael McMillan]

No, that's a different thing. This is in Turkmez 10's Turkmenistan's Kurokum desert and it's a gas filled crater that has been burning for over 50 years. And as I was. So it's just like a big crater of fire and some people call it the door to hell as you would so the crater was formed in 1971 when Soviet geologists accidentally collapsed a natural gas chamber while drilling. Fearing the release of poisonous gas, they set it alight expecting it to burn out quickly. But their plan didn't work and the crater has remained lit ever since.

[Riley Bray]

So it's an oops lol.

[Michael McMillan]

It's an oops lol. It's like a, it's like a fart that you lit on fire that never went out. It is. But now they're saying, according to this article that I found on Discover Wildlife, they think the door to hell is finally closing. Oh, they think it's about to burn out now. I don't know how much time we have running out, but the reduction in fires is nearly, nearly threefold, said Irina Laravia, director of Turkmenistan's state owned emergency company Turkmenigas at the conference at the light seemingly. As the light seemingly begins to fade on the Darvaza gas crater, we take a closer look at its wild and spidery past. Do spiders live at the Darvaza gas crater? There are, it appears, no scientific studies to prove that spiders live at or inside the Darvaza gas crater. Why are we talking about spiders in the door to hell? Where did this come from?

[Riley Bray]

There's like there's not spiders.

[Michael McMillan]

Spiders. Flame spiders.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah. Is it not enough that it's a giant flaming.

[Michael McMillan]

But the effects of temperature on spider prey hunting, web building, sexual signaling and habitat selection are well documented. I guess there's spiders. However, research from similar sites around the world suggest spiders can induce survive in high temperature, gas rich environment. Why are we talking about spider spiders?

[Riley Bray]

Whoever wrote this is really hung up on spiders.

[Michael McMillan]

Scientific studies on the existence of spiders at the crater may be slim, but there are plenty of anecdotal reports on the matter. Some say that several spider species spin their webs perishingly close to the crater's edge where the ground temperatures can soar above 50 degrees Celsius. These accounts suggest that the crater city light may act like a giant insect trap, luring flying prey at night and providing an unlikely feast for these heat tolerant hunters. Okay, spiders at the gates of hell. Most of these spiders are nocturnal since the rainbow spiders at the gates of Helen. Thank you. Hiding during the day under rocks or in burrows. But at night they emerge to hunt. Others stock their prey directly using their speed and agility to overcome the challenges of the harsh terrain. What we do know is that spiders, particularly camel spiders. Okay, buddy, I need you to right now google camel spider because. Because it is the scariest thing you will ever see. And I've seen one in Morocco and I'm gonna.

[Riley Bray]

Jesus Christ.

[Michael McMillan]

This thing is huge and it has a personality.

[Riley Bray]

Okay. These are scary.

[Michael McMillan]

They are terrible. Google camel spiders are at the top of my fear list, I think. And when I have nightmares and I'm being chased by creatures, that's what they look like.

[Riley Bray]

Oh, man. Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

So sometimes camel spiders are referred to as wind scorpions or sun spiders. They live in the desert that surrounds the gas crater. So there's a very plausible chance and will end up at the crater's edge, whether by chance or by design. I didn't know we were talking about camel spiders.

[Riley Bray]

This is a spider article.

[Michael McMillan]

This is all about spiders.

[Riley Bray]

It's from here on out. The rest of the article is about spiders.

[Michael McMillan]

You guys want to learn about fire.

[Riley Bray]

Spider are some very beautiful photos of the crater. Yeah, it's really just spiders.

[Michael McMillan]

It's really mostly come for the craters, stay for the spiders. Do you want to do one more?

[Riley Bray]

Do you want to do three more spiders fling themselves into the crater.

[Michael McMillan]

Well, let's go from spiders to snakes.

[Riley Bray]

Perfect.

[Michael McMillan]

Have you heard about Snake Island? It's in Brazil.

[Riley Bray]

Was this in planet Earth or something?

[Michael McMillan]

Probably. I haven't seen one of those.

[Riley Bray]

There's like a really great. Like it's a lizard getting away from all the snakes. It's like a cinematic masterpiece. Someone knows what I'm talking about. Please, someone in the discord say what this is that I'm talking about.

[Michael McMillan]

So there is a island in Brazil that. It's called Snake island. And according to this article from AZ Animals, I'm going on a real zoological kick.

[Riley Bray]

I like it.

[Michael McMillan]

Snake island is simply littered with snakes. And they're not just small constrictors. The island is infested with a venomous cousin of the fer de lance, the deadliest snake in the Americas. So where Snake island located, I had a. God damn it. Queimada Grande, also known as Snake island, is a small island that lies off the coast of the southeastern portion of Brazil. The land is part of the state of Sao Paulo, and it's noteworthy for having several different terrains, including a small portion of rainforest. Snake island in Brazil is about 220 miles from the mainland coast, far enough away that snakes can't reach continental South America. Given the snake's potent venom, that is a fact. That fact is a relief to many people, including me in Los Angeles, California. The island's name doesn't translate to Snake Island. Instead, it refers to an attempt at deforestation by burning the island's vegetation.

[Riley Bray]

What?

[Michael McMillan]

The island's name doesn't translate to Snake Island. Instead, it refers to an attempt. So I guess somebody tried to, like, burn it, and they're like, that's the island where they try to burn this stuff.

[Riley Bray]

Oh, yeah, like island of the Great Burning or something. Came out of whatever that is.

[Michael McMillan]

A massive forest fire started to clear the area for a banana plantation on the island in the early 20th century.

[Riley Bray]

Island of the Great Burning.

[Michael McMillan]

Got it. So of course, that fell through when the locals realized just how many deadly residents were already living on the island. So not only are there snakes, but the snakes are mad because they burned their habitat.

[Riley Bray]

They're venomous, and they're pissed.

[Michael McMillan]

Interestingly, the island was home to a lighthouse that housed keepers, but now operates automatically with annual repairs by the Brazilian Navy. Yeah, you're not going to find a lighthouse keeper who's going to want to be the guy who works at the island of Snakes.

[Riley Bray]

That would be the most, like, ruggedy sea character that ever was the one who says, yeah, I'll work on your island.

[Michael McMillan]

Listen to this. Some claim that the snakes. Some of the lighthouse keepers claim that snakes on the island staged a unified attack on them.

[Riley Bray]

This is a movie.

[Michael McMillan]

Slithering into their bedroom through the windows and biting the family as they fled in vain and died in the forest. The article says it's probably not true, though, but I don't believe it is. Yeah, so the. The big baddie here is the golden lance head viper. It's a relative to the fer de lance. The snake is very noteworthy because it exists only on Snake Island. There is no other place on earth you can find this animal. The prevailing theory is that this species became trapped on the island after the last ice age ended. Over 11000 years ago, rising seawater immersed the land connecting Snake island to the mainland. The golden lance hand is. Lance head is very distinct. The snake has a light yellow and light brown color, especially on its underside. Also, this snake shares the same unique head shape as the fer de lance. A long head with a point at the nose that resembles a lance Lance's blade Snake is highly dangerous. So how many golden lance heads live on Snake island, you may ask? Let's find out. Oh, just between 22400 and 2090. At least those are. That's how many snakes are on the island. But let's see. Oh, no, no, no, no. Sorry. In the past, estimates claimed that as many as 400000 snakes or more lived on the island. But that might be an over. Gross overestimation. I don't care. It's too many. Too many. Too many snakes for me. That's. That's. I'll. I'll say that. And they're even.

[Riley Bray]

I'm curious how it has so many Google reviews.

[Michael McMillan]

Oh yeah. What did the Google review say about Snake Island?

[Riley Bray]

Because it says you can't go there. But there's 3,297 reviews.

[Michael McMillan]

You know, the people are gonna want to go.

[Riley Bray]

Amazing place. Snakes were very friendly and welcoming. They give you loving bites. I love the Internet.

[Michael McMillan]

Oh, they're all. They're being fun. Geez Louise. I don't know.

[Riley Bray]

I'll never let you take the snakes home anymore.

[Michael McMillan]

Oh my God. I'll tell you what. Keep me away from fire spiders and golden lance heads.

[Riley Bray]

I. Yeah, I'm good off Snake Island.

[Michael McMillan]

None of it. Let's do one last one.

[Riley Bray]

Okay.

[Michael McMillan]

We've talked about this on the show before, but your. The. The reviews reminded me of it. It's the Clown Motel in Tonopah, Nevada. So the Clown Motel is literally a. Here we go. It's known as America's scariest motel. I'm reading from Tonopah's website. The Clown Motel Antonopa is a must see for fans of the strange, spooky and downright unforgettable, this one of a side roadside attraction is home to a massive collection of over 5, 000 clown figurines, paintings and memorabilia from around the world, lining the lobby and rooms with colorful, eerie charm. But it's not just the clowns that give this motel its haunted reputation. Located next to the historic old Tonopah Cemetery, the clown model. Excuse me. The Clown Motel is Rumored to be a hotbed of paranormal activity with guests and ghost hunters alike reporting unexplained voices, footsteps and flickering lights. I do enjoy some of the reviews on TripAdvisor. Let me read you one great. This is a one star review that I found. It's entitled this is not a safe place. But they wrote safe as save. This is from Marjorie R. Do not stay in this motel. They have a sign with the name of a secure parking lot and we got robbed from the car at night time. The owners did not care. They told us that it never happened and ignored us. The room smells as well. Super dirty place to stay as well. That's from August 2025.

[Riley Bray]

Wow.

[Michael McMillan]

And then Jamie N. Gives it a one star review saying filthy, overpriced and deeply disappointing. We traveled all the way from the UK to stay at the so called iconic Clown Motel and were utterly disgusted. The Exorcist room was filthy. I mean, carpets hadn't been vacuumed and an old coffee pot was sitting in the machine. Beds were covered in stains and clearly had been washed. The pillows smelled of someone else's. Of sweat too.

[Riley Bray]

Descriptive.

[Michael McMillan]

Thick dust everywhere in the fridge freezer was revolting. For almost $100 a night, this is unacceptable. We were so appalled, we dropped the key in the box after just one hour without informing the management and drove three hours back to Las Vegas.

[Riley Bray]

Oh my God.

[Michael McMillan]

To make matters worse, the no refund policy seems designed to trap guests. We couldn't face arguing only to get a predictable no free refunds response. Damn y'. All. If you value cleanliness, comfort or basic hospitality, do not stay here. Wow, there's another one. One star dirty rundown. Scary in all the wrong ways. Guys, owners of the Clown. Oh my God. So much stinky rooms in a stinky town.

[Riley Bray]

Oh boy.

[Michael McMillan]

Wow.

[Riley Bray]

I like this one. This is the worst motel in history. I also, I don't know the owners of this place. I'm just reading reviews.

[Michael McMillan]

That's right.

[Riley Bray]

But it follows the bed smelled like gunk. No working showers or toilets. Haunted rooms. Clowns watching you sleep. I was with my mom and dad and we wanted to visit Haunted Place. And when we walked to our room, it smelled horrible and looked horrible. There was stabbed marks in the bed, windows shattered. This is the worst motel ever. Please shut this down. This is not safe for anyone.

[Michael McMillan]

Wow, this has really gone to ruin. This is wild. Still has three and a half out of five stars on TripAdvisor.

[Riley Bray]

You know, people love a cloud.

[Michael McMillan]

Do they?

[Riley Bray]

I don't think so. This is True. This is probably the scariest one yet. I gotta say.

[Michael McMillan]

That is terrifying. Okay, when we come back we're gonna dive into some spooky L files. So Riley.

[Riley Bray]

Yes, Michael.

[Michael McMillan]

Open up Zombie Bigfoot's cryptic crypt and pull out some L files or should.

[Riley Bray]

I say our listeners we've been keeping.

[Michael McMillan]

In there Hell file. So actually we're gonna start with a follow up to one of our recent letters. You may remember Heather who wrote in a few episode L file episodes back, who was driving to work. Work, passing by a smallish cornfield and she saw a blue light flying through the trees. She saw a UFO and we were like how big was it? How long did you see it? So she wrote back with some details about this UFO that she saw.

[Riley Bray]

Oh great.

[Michael McMillan]

So I was driving in Elkhart, Indiana end of August last week perhaps definitely a few days before I sent my first email on the 30th. It was just before 6am so yes, still dark. Dark I believe the skies were pretty clear. Bit of moonlight. I searched the weather for the week. It said partly cloudy, so still could see the stars and such. The blue light was about 30 to 40ft up. I can judge this by the size of our trees because I'm not good at distance. It was just below the tree line to the best of my memory, which is not exact an exact recall as memory is. I could, I could cover it with the tip of my finger. So quite small. I did not try and cover it, but it definitely at least my palm would have. I imagine those pictures of traffic lights and people standing next to them, they are quite large. If this thing was 40ft in the air, it could still be quite large. But it's no classic saucer. It was so fast I barely had time to think about it. Thinking back, it might have only been about five seconds. That's how I am sure sure it was not a drone. I was so excited about it and no one around cared. That's probably why it sounded like it had just happened in my story. I was happy someone would like my story. I did google blue blinking light in the sky and Elkhart, but none of the res. There were no results. It was above a small field surrounded by trees in an area that is very residential. Unless you were on the road it wouldn't have been noticed. And not many people are on these battles back roads that early. And obviously I have no idea how far it came or where it went. I was on this road for a minute before it first shined. It stood out because it was so Bright. I couldn't miss it. I like to think it was just there for me. Mystery Yeet. Person. Slash Heather. I still don't like the name. It is awful. Lol. Remember her?

[Riley Bray]

Of course. Mystery person.

[Michael McMillan]

So there you go. Some great updates. Great details. Thanks for filling in those blanks.

[Riley Bray]

Thinks.

[Michael McMillan]

Seems like you saw an orb. You saw like a fairy light. For sure.

[Riley Bray]

It's also another one of those ones where it's like. It's like a personal one. It's like, yeah, this is. You're seeing this. This is for you.

[Michael McMillan]

Really cool. Be cool to see it. You know, as frustrating as it would be to not have another eyewitness there, it might. It would be really cool to see something like that.

[Riley Bray]

Just.

[Michael McMillan]

Just alone in the woods, like having.

[Riley Bray]

Kind of part of the magic of it, too, right where you're like, no, this is. But no one else is. Just see, it's just. It's right there. Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah. I love it. All right, why don't we pull out this file from Poncho Cilantro?

[Riley Bray]

Oh, yes. All right, here we go. Hi, Michael and Riley. Pancho Cilantro here. You might remember that name from my reviews and comments on the Patreon. I do. Hello, Poncho. I am so excited to see you both live in Kansas City this Friday. That happened a long time ago.

[Michael McMillan]

But you know what?

[Riley Bray]

It was great to meet you. I have a story I wanted to share for the ELF Files. My fiance is an air traffic controller and was excited to tell me about an experience he had at work one evening. He works at a facility that covers a large geographical area in the southwestern United States, mostly encompassing Arizona and New Mexico. This is, of course, the spookiest. This is me talking the spookiest air traffic control region, obviously, and the area.

[Michael McMillan]

Where our guest at the beginning of the month, Brian Baugh, he grew up.

[Riley Bray]

Oh, yeah. All right. All right. Continuing with the letter, he knows how into UFO stories I am. On February 14, 2024, I received. Is that Valentine's Day?

[Michael McMillan]

It is.

[Riley Bray]

All right.

[Michael McMillan]

So let's better remember that, buddy.

[Riley Bray]

See what the Valentine's Day text read. I received a text from him telling me that he had something exciting to share with me about his work day. When he got home that evening, he told me that an anomaly had occurred at some time between 0400Z Zulu time and O500Z. The radio chatter occurred on what is known AS guard frequency 121.5. 243.0.

[Michael McMillan]

Riley, sidebar. Are you getting excited by These frequency numbers.

[Riley Bray]

Oh, I'm loving this radio talk.

[Michael McMillan]

I thought you might like this one.

[Riley Bray]

Oh yeah, it's good. This is a general all communications frequency that allows pilots to communicate freely on an open channel in case of emergency, or to provide other AV with essential safety and regionally specific flight information. Cool. Sometimes it's abused with random chatter and meow noises as a joke.

[Michael McMillan]

I like to think there's just a.

[Riley Bray]

Cat on there who's going down.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah, the cat figured out how to fly and now it needs help. Somebody help this cat. Somebody help the cat. It's not a joke. That cat is going to crash.

[Riley Bray]

Admiral. Puss in Boots needs to land that P52.

[Michael McMillan]

Admiral. You're supposed to be sailing a big ship. You're not supposed to be flying a plane.

[Riley Bray]

Oh, well, that's what's a cat, so that's.

[Michael McMillan]

He doesn't know he's mixed up.

[Riley Bray]

Anyways, there could be admirals in the sky.

[Michael McMillan]

I don't know. I'll do a quick goog. So you keep going.

[Riley Bray]

Sky Admiral.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah, give me a better.

[Riley Bray]

We could put Puss in Boots is taken. Generally this chatter is filtered out as ours should have been. But it rang loud and clear on the overhead consoles when upwards of 20 pilots, both commercial and private, began discussing bizarre and unexplainable lights in a triangle that hovered and rotated in strange circular patterns in the sky. Holy shit. In an odd moment of confusion, many pilots began discussing what this could possibly be and asking if anyone else was seeing what they were seeing. An important thing to make note of is that the vast majority of these events came from commercial airline pilots operating in the area that had a visual sight of this anomaly. They are very experienced pilots who fly through the region often almost on a daily basis. They're familiar with SpaceX launches and planned operations surrounding the White Sands missile Range. This, however, could not be comprehended by them. They identify the objects as being very high up. This would have to have been at least 60,000ft or more above the ground. MSL. It was, as they described, a trio of glowing lights that rotated and changed altitude in a dramatic and physics defying matter. This is crazy.

[Michael McMillan]

I love this.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah. It continues. The pilots bearing witness to this all discussed this for probably 30 minutes. It was the most active he had seen the guard frequency in his entire career. Whoa. They made the estimate that the lights were geographically over the city of Albuquerque. Nothing ever showed up on radar. That part is crazy.

[Michael McMillan]

That's crazy.

[Riley Bray]

Other than what may be recorded on archive ever surfaced and no pilots Ever discussed it further, it disappeared. Vague reports by military pilots had occurred earlier in the month of floating orbs that they had to maneuver around. And those reports were published. Can't wait to see you both in a few days. Tiff. Poncho. Cilantro.

[Michael McMillan]

Now, listen.

[Riley Bray]

Whoa.

[Michael McMillan]

I gotta. I got a little additional here that I. I left out. I've got a little bit of a follow up from Tiff.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

If you'd like to hear the audio of this event, you can go to liveatc.net and try to find a guard frequency near Farmington, New Mexico between 0400Z and O500Z on 2 14, 2024.

[Riley Bray]

So if someone finds that, please, please, please put it in the discord.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah, they added. My fiance wants to mention that the radios are really hard to hear, and it might take quite a bit of listening and fine tuning to hear exactly what's going on. Maybe Riley's sound skills will be able to help us out if you feel like it's a worthy endeavor. Smiley face, Riley. So, I don't know, maybe a fun project to have while you're tinkering around.

[Riley Bray]

If somebody digs that file, I'll run it through some filters.

[Michael McMillan]

Man, my nose is so itchy. I'm sorry if you're watching this on YouTube and I keep scratching my nose.

[Riley Bray]

No, no, it's okay. I have a. I have an airband radio receiver because, of course, I do.

[Michael McMillan]

Also, are pilots who become admirals allowed to fly? Yes, admirals can fly, even though few do. So there you go.

[Riley Bray]

Well.

[Michael McMillan]

Can still fly. Yes, it is. So, oldest living admiral in the Navy. There you go. In the longest plane crash in history. Okay, here we go. Should we break? Let's break. We'll come right back.

[Riley Bray]

I'll be right back.

[Michael McMillan]

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[Riley Bray]

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[Michael McMillan]

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[Riley Bray]

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[Michael McMillan]

All right, let's dive back into these hell files. Hello, fellow supernatural enthusiasts. My name is Jessica and I've Been a listener for a while, but recently returned during your big strange vacation. Hey.

[Riley Bray]

Hey.

[Michael McMillan]

Welcome back. We.

[Riley Bray]

Hey.

[Michael McMillan]

Hey. We're glad the summer road brought you back to us.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

I always meant to share with you one of my stories and now I have a few more stories and a few secondhand. My best friend is more sensitive than I am, but I've had at least one ghost encounter since. It's almost October. Guess what it is. I'm throwing myself out there and reaching out.

[Riley Bray]

Nice.

[Michael McMillan]

At the time of this encounter, my mom and I lived in a distance duplex and in the same neighborhood as my childhood best friend Crystal. She returns in another story. Listen, if you have a friend named Crystal, you got more than one story about her. I was home alone and our next door neighbor was at work. It was a sunny day and I had gone outside to swap our laundry out. It was in a little add on. Outside the house we have a fenced in backyard with the only opening several feet behind the laundry room at our carport. As I was pulling the wet clothes into the dryer, I was bent over as if someone leaned over to me. They whispered a very clear hello. Oh, excuse me.

[Riley Bray]

Hello.

[Michael McMillan]

It wasn't breathy. They have notes, but clear as a bell inside my ear. I whipped around expecting to see Crystal having snuck up on me, but she was nowhere on on the property or even at home, which was just a few blocks away. I did not answer the greeting, but very perplexed about the whisper because no one was home at the time. I was slightly on the skeptic side with ghosts and other life forms or spirits. It's been several years since this encounter and haven't heard or seen a ghost since.

[Riley Bray]

Since.

[Michael McMillan]

I am, however, more open to the possibilities than I was before. Though I haven't seen a ghost or heard one. I've had some strange dreams. I know there's some people who think dreams bring us to other worlds or parallel universes. So on. I hope I can get your thoughts on these to bring you up to date. It's been at least three years since my childhood best friend Crystal has passed away. Oh no. We're so sorry. At least once a year since her passing, I have dreams with Crystal. They were not otherworldly dreamscapes with superpowers or whimsical like most of my other dreams. These dreams were always at night and we're just sitting in a dark landscape and we're just chatting with each other. My first dream of her was in a dark cornfield and I had to Find her. And I had to find her and lead her out of the cornfields, away from the maze. The others have not been as vivid as the first one has. Now on her third year of being gone, I've began feeling a sudden pull towards her books about introduction of crystals. So crystals into crystals. She gave me these books a few months before she passed. I've currently bought a few crystals. And after listening to your meeting with Zachariah the witch and Ansley, I've been feeling the same pole to reach out to her. I don't know if this might be her reaching out from the other side or me just missing my friend. Well, I'm sorry if this turned out to be a longer letter than I wanted. I will have to share another L File experience if it happens this October, as my friend and I got some ghost equipment and we're planning to fight. Planning on finding ghost experiences nearby.

[Riley Bray]

Nice.

[Michael McMillan]

Thank you for all you do. I look forward to your October specials. Thank you for your time. Well, thank you, Jessica. A couple things. I mean, you said you didn't hear a ghost. Maybe you did that. Yeah, that little. Hello. I mean, we've heard stories like that before. Mary Howard had a. Excuse me, Mary Holland, episode three or four had a very similar story where she heard a voice right in her ear when she was back at our alma mater, Interlockin Arts Academy. I don't know. You know, who knows what that is? We can't really tell. There's not a lot there to. To hang on. What do you think?

[Riley Bray]

I mean, that dream is very beautiful and cinematic and kind of mythological. Like the. Leading her through the maze and it's very. In a way, there's a sweetness to it.

[Michael McMillan]

Yes.

[Riley Bray]

You know, this sort of connection.

[Michael McMillan]

Yes.

[Riley Bray]

And like this sense of guiding and helping and, you know, this. Yeah, that whole thing with the. The. The, you know, connecting with people who have passed on. When you're in dream states, really, there's something. There's something there.

[Michael McMillan]

I absolutely think there's something to it. And the. The. The maze dream is really interesting, you know, just from a like Jungian or mythological point of view even. It's like trying to get them out of the Underworld into a safe place like that.

[Riley Bray]

Carried safely across the river.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah. So maybe. Maybe you were helping her as well, on the other side. But. I'm sorry you lost your friend. I'm glad. You know, I've had experiences like this with people in my life who've passed on. And Alby. I mean, Alby comes to me so often. In my dreams. It's crazy.

[Riley Bray]

That's nice.

[Michael McMillan]

And now it's enough that like, I'm sort of aware in the dream that we're like in an in between place. It's my bulldog for longtime listeners, May. That you guys may remember. But. But I can smell him. I can feel him. It's so, so tactile, intangible. But for me, even if it's just my brain, what a gift my brain is giving me to literally feel like I'm in the presence of. Of something, somebody that I loved so dearly, and. And I feel like I get to hang out with, you know, And I know that there's people listening to the show that are like, no, you're hanging out with his spirit. He's coming to meet you. And I'd like to think that.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

But it, at a certain point it's like, what's the difference? You know what I mean? Yeah, what's the difference? It's the same sensory experience. Experience. So who's to say?

[Riley Bray]

Yeah. Sleeping and dreaming. What a. What a wonderful part of life.

[Michael McMillan]

We should do more of this.

[Riley Bray]

It's good.

[Michael McMillan]

Do we have time for one more? It's not too long. Do you want to read it?

[Riley Bray]

Yeah, let's do one more.

[Michael McMillan]

Okay.

[Riley Bray]

Why not? Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah. We're here. It's Halloween. Come on, everybody.

[Riley Bray]

This letter is from Danielle G. And she says. Hey, BCC boys, I have a story to tell you of an almost eight month long ghostly encounter. I will try to make this as succinct as possible, but a lot of weird shit happened. So here we go.

[Michael McMillan]

Love it.

[Riley Bray]

Bring it on. In August 2023, myself, my husband and our two young daughters moved in with my husband's granny while our home was undergoing extensive renovations.

[Michael McMillan]

Pause. This is already a Blumhouse like.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah, movies ready to go off start. I'm gonna.

[Michael McMillan]

We can turn this into a treatment. We could shoot this thing. Let's go.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah. Coincidentally, I just started listening to your podcast. Also a great layer in the script. This is. I'm loving this. We're loving this today.

[Michael McMillan]

Cuz then. Cuz then our characters come and try to help them, you know, get rid of the ghosts.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah, you got to work in the franchise. Okay, sorry. Focus on your letter. I just started listening to your podcast cast. I've since caught up on every episode and became a member of the other side. Nice. Wow.

[Michael McMillan]

Notice that they said they didn't catch up on all those episodes because if you're on supercast up until recently, you couldn't Play all of them. But now you can because they're all fixed. All of it. Single handedly fixed. The backlog. You can play them all. Okay.

[Riley Bray]

Artisanally crafted feed. Continuing. My husband, myself and our oldest daughter slept in the basement, while our youngest daughter, who was 10 months old when we moved in, slept upstairs in the office. The office has also. This is a horror movie. The office has a bit of a history. It was previously the bedroom of my husband's uncle, who tragically passed away at 18 in a car accident.

[Michael McMillan]

What are we even doing here, people?

[Riley Bray]

About a decade ago, my husband's grandfather died of a heart attack in the very same room.

[Michael McMillan]

Okay, we're done, we're done, we're done.

[Riley Bray]

My husband was actually with him when he died.

[Michael McMillan]

Wow.

[Riley Bray]

That. Wow. So we've been living in the house for about three weeks when I wake up one night from the sound of loud stomping coming from above us in the direction of our baby's room. I grab the baby monitor to see what the hell is going on. And for the next 10 minutes, I lie there witnessing something my brain still cannot explain. Our baby was sitting up in her crib crib waving and saying hi to the darkness. In front of the crib, a big bright white orb zoomed past back and forth so fast it left light trails. Whoa. I watched as the temperature in the room rapidly dropped. What?

[Michael McMillan]

I'm getting goosebumps, dude.

[Riley Bray]

Eventually, the orb went away, our baby lay back down to go to sleep, and the temperature in the room quickly rose. I didn't sleep for the rest of the night.

[Michael McMillan]

I'm not gonna sleep tonight.

[Riley Bray]

The next day, I told his granny what happened. And she very casually replied, oh, that was just Bob, my husband's grandfather. This was just the first of almost daily encounters with the strange while living in this house. The visits to our baby's room continued, the temperature dipping dramatically each time. That part is really crazy. It was only ever myself and our baby who saw any of this. So my husband didn't believe me, but his granny did also. That is exactly what would be in the movie.

[Michael McMillan]

Yep.

[Riley Bray]

Yep. One night I woke up to the sound of someone walking around the bedroom and opening and closing the cupboard doors in the laundry room that was right next to us. My husband was fast asleep beside me and I could see no one in the room. I was terrified. My husband slept through it. Another night I was asleep with my feet hanging. Yeah, husband's. Another night I was asleep with my feet hanging out from the covers. Oh, God, don't do that when I felt someone wrap their hand around my ankle and tug, I did my best not to scream. Why? I ask you? I would have screamed immediately, scrunched into the fetal position and moved as close to my husband as I possibly could. I haven't slept with my feet poking out since. Every day I would feel someone playing with my hair at the back of my head. I was alone in the kitchen one night doing the dishes and felt it again. Fed up with the constant annoyance. Ice annoyance. I said loudly to the room. Stop it. After that day, it never happened again. I saw a lazy boy. Look recliner lift off the ground by itself. Really buried the lead there. Would hear doors open and shut while I was home alone. Heard someone at the basement bar making a drink, only to walk in and find no one there. Stuff like this happened all the time. We moved out after eight months. That's crazy. And I haven't had an encounter since. Was it his grandfather or his uncle? Or both? And why did it only target me and the baby? Or was it you BCC boys?

[Michael McMillan]

Don't blame us.

[Riley Bray]

On when I started listening to your podcast.

[Michael McMillan]

Nothing to do with this.

[Riley Bray]

Maybe this wasn't my first encounter with the paranormal, but it was the most notable. I know this is crazy long, and if you don't read it on air, I completely understand. But I do hope you guys at least read it so you can share in the strange with me. Lots of love, Danielle G. That is.

[Michael McMillan]

Like, it's an A plus us. Hellfire.

[Riley Bray]

Yes. They should use this to teach high strangeness in universities. I mean, this is.

[Michael McMillan]

I mean, a I just want to get into this house. You know, I'm bummed that you don't live there anymore, Daniel, because I would be like, we're going and we're going to spend a couple nights there now.

[Riley Bray]

You know what also really strikes me with this is that living in that for eight months, it turns from like, the scariest thing in the world to, like, annoyance hands.

[Michael McMillan]

Yes.

[Riley Bray]

Where she's like, will you knock it off?

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah, yeah, of course. I mean, you would be fed up at a certain point.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

The hands around the ankles and the tug. This is why I never stick my feet out from under the covers. I never do it because I'm always worried. Something. I sleep barefoot. I don't want anyone grabbing my feet. That is terrifying. I definitely think there's more than one thing active here. I do think. I think there. I think the making the drink, maybe the bright white orb zooming around, entertaining the baby. That could be Grandpa, by the way, I. I was just getting so into the story. I'm so sorry for your. You know, for your husband. Yeah. You know, and this tragic story of. Of his uncle. So maybe. I think it's probably both. I think uncle and granddad, and I. I even feel like there's more there. I feel like there's. It's not just those two. I think this house.

[Riley Bray]

No, it feels like that's the. That's the twist, Right?

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah.

[Riley Bray]

Movie is that. You think it's the uncle and the grandpa, but it's just, you know, it's something else that's impersonating them or somehow. Yeah. It has something to do with that room.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah. So granny, you know, she's obviously had experiences there, so.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

She's seen stuff. Stuff. I don't know. I would guess I would say. Why you? I don't have that answer, but your husband didn't sound open to it at all. So you clearly were. Are open to this stuff.

[Riley Bray]

You're the available frequency. Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

You're listening to the podcast. There are some people in the mediumship business who might say listening to the podcast was sending a signal to the other side that you're open. So maybe we did have a hand in this. And babies are babies. Babies are open to all this stuff. They're neutral. Yeah. So. So, yeah. I just think you lived in a haunted house and. Sounds like it. Wow. We need to get some paranormal investigators in here to check this place out.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah. I'd love anything you've got. You've got the beginnings of a great script on your hands.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah, I would love for them. Right, Danielle, where this is. You know, obviously we're not going to dox you guys on the podcast, but I want more details about the location of this place. What. Maybe what's going on in that. Excuse me. In that town. I'm burping. I'm so scared. Great letter, Danielle.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

What a story. And let us know you said you've had other paranormal encounters. So this says to me that you're a receiver for these things. That's kind of where I'm going to. Bottom line.

[Riley Bray]

Sure.

[Michael McMillan]

Don't you think?

[Riley Bray]

Sure. I completely agree. Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

All right. Okay, Great. All right, everybody.

[Riley Bray]

Great letters this week.

[Michael McMillan]

Great letters. Really good stuff. We need more. Send us some more, Riley. Anything to plug before we bounce out?

[Riley Bray]

Just peace. Drone.net Love it. And my website, there's cool things on it, tools that you can have for free and ambient artistic projects. And it's, you know, go check it out.

[Michael McMillan]

Peace drone.net Peace drone.net y'. All. And I guess I should say because Maybe I didn't bigfootcollectorsclubmail.com Mark your letters in the subject L files. You can title. Just just make sure you put L files in there because somewhere. Because it's easier for me to locate them in the inbox. All righty everybody. If you want more BCC or would like to listen ad free, join us at the BCC clubhouse on Supercast. Bcc.supercast.com you get three bonus episodes every month. On the other side, you get your ad free episodes and your monthly music tracks from Riley over on the Cosmic Tracks Channel channel. You can find the link to that in our show notes and on our Instagram bio at Pickfoot Collectors Club. If we don't see you there, we'll see you next Wednesday. Until then, good night. And go get regret. It's like a barbershop quartet. Yeah, in the haunted house. Bad.

[Riley Bray]

Now that is.

[Michael McMillan]

Bigfoot Collectors Club is executive produced by Riley Bray and Michael McMillan and engineered and edited by Riley Bray. Our theme song is Come Alone by Suneaters courtesy of Lotus Pool Records. For ad free listening and bonus episodes every month, join BCC Clubhouse on bcc.supercast.com Want to see us watch video episodes and exclusive content on YouTube.com advisory big.

[Riley Bray]

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