Bigfoot Collectors Club

Episode: “Plasma” w/ Dana Kippel
Release Date: March 4, 2026
Host: Michael McMillian & Riley Bray
Guest: Dana Kippel, author, filmmaker, and plasma consciousness advocate

Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into the nature of “plasma” as a fundamental and often overlooked element of reality—exploring its scientific, metaphysical, and experiential implications. Guest Dana Kippel, author of A New Force: Plasma Consciousness and the New Human Potential, shares her personal journey through trauma, meditation, and sudden insight into plasma as a bridge between dimensions, timelines, and consciousness itself. The conversation traverses myth, science, paranormal encounters, grief, and the practical ways plasma understanding might influence both technology and individual self-realization.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Dana’s Personal Journey & Introduction to Plasma

• [04:45] Dana’s Pathway to Mythology and Plasma:

  • Originally an actor and filmmaker, Dana recounts how a period of meditation after trauma opened her up to a spontaneous “download” of information about plasma.
  • “Information with emotion is attached, and those two things together form mythology and story. Mythology is the language of information.” (Dana, 05:24)
  • Plasma, in her view, links mythic archetypes, science, and consciousness.

• [08:00] Sudden Shift:

  • The “download” was immediate and comprehensive, as if she’d suddenly always known vast details about plasma.

2. Defining Plasma—Scientific to Metaphysical

• [09:21] Science’s View:

  • Plasma is an ionized gas: “It’s 99.9% of visible matter. We are never taught about it in school.” (Dana, 10:40)
  • Examples: Lightning, aurora borealis, neon signs, old plasma TVs.
  • Science is only beginning to appreciate plasma as a “behavior of reality,” not just a state of matter.

• [10:45] Dana’s Definition:

  • “A multidimensional, living, sentient ether... the vehicle for information, intelligence, and consciousness.”
  • She theorizes that plasma is the “fabric” and “medium” through which reality expresses and organizes itself—potentially undetectable by current tools, akin to the pre-discovery of gravity or subatomic particles.

• [12:53] Plasma as the Feminine Side of Consciousness:

  • “What about the goddess? The mirror and the intelligent clay that consciousness molds... Plasma actually means to mold.”
  • Dana frames plasma as the often-ignored partner to consciousness (thought/God/the masculine), necessary for creation/manifestation.

3. Practical Applications & Human Potential

• [13:24] Why Does Plasma Matter to People?

  • “Plasma interfaces with our nervous system... If you want to co-create your best reality, you want to know how your dance partner works.”
  • Connecting with plasma is about grounding, being in the heart, “Shakti energy,” and resonance.

• [15:10] Plasma in Human History:

  • Known in various traditions as orgone, ether, prana, chi, animal magnetism.

• [16:15] Magic = Misunderstood Plasma?

  • “It’s the source of our magic... the energy between your hands, when you’re feeling that tension, that resistance, that’s plasma.”

• [17:00] Future of Tech: Plasma Computing

  • “The future... is plasma. They’re actually studying how plasma and consciousness affect each other... You have to be able to control your nervous system and be in a neutral or playful state.”
  • Plasma computing could one day allow synergy between human consciousness and physical plasmas in new technology.

4. Plasma, Perception & Paranormal Experiences

• [20:01] Are Neon Signs Alive?

  • The visible forms of plasma (lights, signs, lightning): “Like a shadow of your mother”—projections or physical manifestations of deeper plasma energy, but not themselves conscious.

• [22:50] Personal Experiences with “Living” Plasma:

  • Dana describes touching a tuned plasma device (video on her Instagram), which began pulsing to her heartbeat—“Through that plasma I had a conscious connection with maybe my higher self... It was like an amplifier.”

• [23:50] Plasma as Carrier of Information & Memory:

  • “Plasma is more like imprinted consciousness... Medium for reality to manifest.”
  • Layers: “5D, 4D, 3D plasma”—higher self, nervous system, earth/physicality.

• [25:38] Meditation Experience—Contact with Higher Self:

  • No intention other than self-healing and feeling better; “Plasma found me.”
  • Receives the message to write A New Force, attributed to her higher, future self:

    “You’re going to write a book called A New Force. It’s already written in this timeline. And you’re now gonna co-create it in your reality.” (Dana, 26:42)

5. Grief and Liminal States

• [29:25] Discussing Parental Loss:
  • Michael and Dana share personal stories of grief—loss of parents acts as a profound consciousness shift.
  • Dana: Loss can create a “gateway” for the experience of deeper love or connection with plasma:

    “Grief opens up a very interesting gateway. And it’s a liminal space where the rules of reality don’t really apply anymore...” (Dana, 34:27)

6. Making Everyday Connection

• [36:23] Daily Meditation & Human Fluctuation:
  • Dana meditates daily but is honest about ups/downs—sometimes she's “in a flow,” other times “everyone’s just bothering me.”
  • Over time, outward (visual/mystical) experiences shift to subtler, real-life synchronicities and a lived sense of connection.

7. Channeling, Higher Selves, and Manifestation

• [40:32] The Higher Self as Future Ancestor:

  • The “voice” or guidance is not simply a being outside herself, but a future or parallel version—her “future ancestor,” co-creating destiny.
  • Decision points in manifestation: “In every moment you’re just doing those things. But contrast is a part of our experience.”

• [45:34] Is There a Counterpart to Plasma?

  • Yes, plasma has a “dark and light” aspect, but negative experiences (“demonic entities, witches, shadows”) are reflections of unprocessed personal trauma resonating in the plasma field.
  • Positive or “higher” entities are only accessible through love—"only benevolent beings can travel through plasma."

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On myth and meaning:

  “Mythology is the language of information. It is simply the stories we attach over time to energy... when you listen to mythology, it becomes a portal.” (Dana, 05:05)

• On plasma as a cosmic “mother”:

  “It’s the vibration and electricity you feel coursing in you. It’s like you’re being held by this warm cosmic mother.” (Dana, 13:46)

• On loss and consciousness shift:

  “When mom passed, it just felt like... unconditional love doesn’t exist on this planet for me anymore. Like, mom... that umbrella is gone. So you gotta generate that for myself, you know?” (Michael, 30:25)

• Describing the liminal:

  "Grief is like a gateway, but it also is a guardian... It’s a guardian to those higher states if you let it, if you take its hand.” (Dana, 34:27)

• On manifestation cycles:

  “To jump up, you have to bend your knees… you’re in the unknown. That’s actually the best place to be because that’s the most creative time.” (Dana, 44:15)

• On abductions and trauma:

  “They’re not poking and prodding us. They already know every… what they want to know is how emotions work. They want to know how we persist against death and pain and suffering and still want to keep going.” (Dana, 64:20)

Important Timestamps

• 05:05 – Dana’s perspective on mythology as “the language of information”
• 09:21–12:53 – Defining plasma as both physical and metaphysical; the goddess analogy
• 16:15 – Plasma as the “source of magic” and connection to mystical traditions
• 22:10 – Dana’s hands-on plasma experience: device syncing to her heartbeat
• 25:38/26:42 – Meditation “download;” message from her future self to write the book
• 34:27 – Grief as a portal or “gateway” for liminal, mystical experiences
• 36:23–39:00 – Dana’s honest routine, spiritual ups and downs, daily meditation
• 43:14–45:22 – Manifestation, decision points, and the creative process
• 54:25 – ‘Believe It or Bullshit’ game rapid fire segment
• 55:00 – Dana’s posthumous visitation from Bigfoot (her dad’s energy as albino Bigfoot)
• 62:11–62:37 – Critique of government “disclosure” as a distraction from inner revelation
• 67:34 – Final takeaway: “You have all the power you’ve ever needed within you. You are a human star. You are never alone... Be your authentic self; that’s the highest frequency you could be in.” (Dana)

Bonus Content

"Believe It or Bullshit" Rapid Fire (53:00–54:25)

Dana affirms belief in nearly every entry: ghosts, Bigfoot, Loch Ness, tarot, manifestation, Chupacabra, Ouija, seeing the future, Dogman, Goatman, “life on other planets,” and “life after death.”

• “Who am I to say what someone’s truth is? ... Everyone has their own reality experience... a being might come to them looking like that.” (Dana, 53:56)

Dana’s Bigfoot Sighting (55:00)

• Albino Bigfoot appears after her father’s death—“I knew it was my dad saying hello...” (Dana, 55:44)

Pop Culture Surprise

• Dana reveals a True Blood tattoo (guest Michael’s former show), creating a “synchronicity” moment (66:22).

Takeaways for Listeners

Bring Some Plasma Magic Into Your Life

• Plasma, in Dana’s cosmology, is the substrate for all conscious experience—a bridge between science and spirit, the known and the high strangeness.
• "Be yourself, make mistakes, play, and laugh. That’s the highest frequency you could be in.” (Dana, 68:13)

Where to Find Dana Kippel

• Instagram: @danathealien
• Book: A New Force: Plasma Consciousness and the New Human Potential (Amazon, link in her bio)
• Classes: Magic classes, live teachings via Instagram and website

Related Pop Culture Recommendation

• Wonder Man (Disney+):
  • Michael notes its “plasma symbolism and literal plasma powers”—connects to Dana’s themes.

This episode showcases classic BCC: a blend of humor, warmth, deep theoretical meanderings, and the comfort of exchanging the weird in an inclusive, club-house spirit. For those curious about the edges of consciousness and the layers behind our reality, it’s a plasma-packed hour of revelations and playfulness.