"The Cole Hollow Road Monster"

Summary

Bigfoot Collectors Club – “The Cole Hollow Road Monster”
Episode Date: November 5, 2025

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Episode Overview

This special episode of the Bigfoot Collectors Club is a true celebration—hosts Michael McMillian and Riley Bray mark the podcast’s 8th anniversary with tales of monsters, high strangeness, and party games. With no guest this week, the duo reminisce about eight years of paranormal inquiry, discuss current UFO and cryptid news, and dive deep into the legend of Illinois’ Cole Hollow Road Monster (aka "Kohomo"). The episode ends on a playful note with a creative cryptid guessing game.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Clubhouse Birthday Bash & Podcast Reflections (04:15–06:10)

• Celebrating Eight Years: The hosts share surprise and gratitude at the show’s longevity.
  • “Can you believe it? Our podcast is an eighth grader now... Happy birthday, Bigfoot Collectors Club.” (04:36–04:57, Michael)
• Community Growth: New listeners and Discord members are welcomed; merch and Patreon updates shared.
• Tone: Reflective, humorous, slightly self-deprecating; camaraderie abounds.

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2. Paranormal News Round-Up (06:32–20:12)

a) John Williams Scores Spielberg’s UFO Movie (06:32–12:22)

• Announcement: Iconic composer John Williams will return, at age 93, to score Spielberg's still-untitled, UFO-themed film due in 2026.
• Film & Music Nostalgia: Discussion drifts to favorite Williams scores—Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Jaws, and E.T.
  • "John Williams was a pop star in the 80s… kids knew Madonna... and then they knew John Williams." (10:06–10:41, Michael)
• Spielberg’s Alien Output: ET and Close Encounters considered "the favorites"; brief debate on Super 8.
• Memorable Moment: Both revel in anticipation for another Spielberg UFO adventure.

b) UFO Flashes & 1950s Nuclear Test Correlations (12:22–20:12)

• New Study: Swedish and U.S. researchers analyze archive photos from 1949–57; find mysterious flashes of light over U.S. nuclear test sites, before satellites existed.
  • “They were 68% more likely to occur the day after a nuclear weapons test than on days without.” (18:14–19:13, Michael)
• Skepticism & Theories: Hosts question if nuclear detonations’ atmospheric effects can cause such phenomena, or if extraterrestrials might indeed be monitoring us.
  • “Buddy, we got to get out our magnifying glasses and take a closer look.” (20:50–20:55, Michael)

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3. Club Scout of the Week & Non-Toxic Vibes (21:12–22:29)

• 5-Star Review Shout-Out: The “Club Scout of the Week” segment returns; the review praises the show’s “refreshingly non-toxic masculinity and light-hearted take on the supernatural.”
• Notable Banter: Jokes about default wi-fi names and helping parents with tech.

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4. Where in the World is Bigfoot? – The European Edition (22:29–33:10)

• International Sightings: Use of the Bigfoot Mapping Project reveals European cryptid encounters:
  • Netherlands: Sighting of both adult and juvenile Bigfoot near Rotterdam with associated “wood knocks” (23:12–24:59).
  • Sweden: Dash-cam photo allegedly captures bipedal figure near Hamra National Park (26:02–27:16).
  • England: Reports include a “felt presence” during a blood red moon (28:06–29:04), and a 2021 Isle of Man encounter where a motorcyclist is nearly grabbed by a “beast” (29:39–33:10).
• Tone: Playful skepticism, appreciation for the romantic “vibe” of European monsters.
• Memorable Quote: “At the end of the day, we are just hominid shaped blobs. Yeah, me especially lately.” (27:36–27:49, Michael)

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5. High Strangeness Feature: The Cole Hollow Road Monster ("Kohomo") (34:22–58:00)

The Legend Unfurled

• 1972 Illinois, Summer of Monsters: Local teen Randall "Randy" Emmert reports to a radio station that a white-haired, foul-smelling Bigfoot-type creature is inhabiting the Coal Hollow Road area.
• Description: 8–9 ft tall, whitish-gray hair, “cross between an ape and a caveman”, three-toed tracks, a putrid odor ("wet dog mixed with rotten eggs").
  • “My friend had a friend... He saw something white and hairy standing there, staring at him.” (35:47–35:56, Michael as Randy)
• The Hysteria Blooms: Multiple witnesses claim encounters; "posses" of up to 100 armed locals comb the woods. The sheriff is skeptical.
• Cross-State Coincidence: Simultaneous sightings of "Momo" in Missouri; 1970s monster fever runs wild.
  • Timestamps:
    • Initial story and Randy’s spotlight: 34:22–38:15
    • Monster posse & sheriff commentary: 44:48–45:53

Hoax Revealed?

• Reporter Returns: Decades later, Bartels tracks down Randy, who admits via email that it began as a prank—kids with a white sheet, an easily spooked friend, and some embellishment for a call-in radio show.
  • “Okay, this was a hoax played by some friends of mine and myself on another friend… We never saw a monster or a Bigfoot.” (51:32–53:27, Michael reading Randy’s email)
• Legacy & Ambiguity:
  • Despite the confession, witnesses' later claims and intense community response suggest a blend of mass hysteria, tall tales, and perhaps the unknown.
  • Bartels reflects on how the legend endures in town lore.
  • “Randy, you really misled everybody. But I, you know what I say... Viva Kohomo.” (57:45–58:01, Michael)
• Memorable Quotes:
  • “The flowers grow with the weeds, you know.” (56:16, Riley)

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6. Anniversary Party Game – “What's In The Box?” (Cryptid Edition) (61:11–74:26)

• Game Format: Riley is presented with five “mystery presents,” each representing a cryptid or paranormal phenomenon, and must guess what’s inside via clues (weight, smell, peek, etc.).
  • “What do you want to do—lift it, shake it, smell it, touch it, or see it?” (62:21, Michael)
• Sample Clues & Reveals:
  • Black box: Light, pale blue light, chains—answer: Ghost.
  • Blue box: Splashy, slippery, too dark to see—answer: Nessie.
  • Red box: Sweet but stinky, furry—answer: Albatwitch (surprise!).
  • Rainbow box: Moonshine smell, green glow, metal clang—answer: Kentucky Goblin.
  • Pinstripe box: Impossible to lift, sounds like sand, high view needed—answer: Nazca Lines.
• Score: Riley scores 4 out of 5, awarded with a “B+” (upgraded to A- for party spirit).
• Memorable Banter: “Finally, after eight years, you discovered that I’m the troll bridge you get to cross.” (73:03, Michael)

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7. Plugs & Wrap-Up (74:28–78:18)

• Clubhouse Content: Push for listeners to join BCC Clubhouse, check out their Kansas ghost investigation videos on YouTube, and listen to Michael’s guest episode on "Sage Based Wisdom".
• Riley’s Project: Riley promotes his music/sound-art site (peacedrone.net), including a new instrument tuner.
• Final Words: The episode closes with gratitude and love for listeners, reminders to join for bonus content, and celebratory well-wishes for the show’s birthday.

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• On John Williams’ legacy:
  “John Williams was a pop star in the 80s… and they knew his songs like he was massive.” (10:06–10:41, Michael)

• On cryptid culture in the 1970s:
  “Just Bigfoot and monsters were in the lexicon then, like aliens are now.” (56:51–57:12, Riley)

• On community folklore:
  “I think the community in itself pulled together to try to figure out what the Cole Hollow monster was about...It became part of our history.” (49:31–49:49, Michael quoting Robert Cole)

• On mass hysteria and belief:
  “What did his friend see that first night? ... Mass hysteria, or is there actually a monster up there?” (54:07–54:41, Michael)

• On monster wave connections:
  “Plus we got all this going on with Momo at the same time and UFO lights... Is there some kind of weird hairy monster, UFO wave?” (55:08–55:27, Michael)

• On identity & podcasting: “At the end of the day, we are just hominid shaped blobs. Yeah, me especially lately.” (27:36–27:49, Michael)

• Anniversary Toast:
  “Happy anniversary, baby. Happy anniversary. Happy birthday podcast. Love you guys.” (78:11–78:14, Michael & Riley)

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Important Segments & Timestamps

• Podcast reflection & birthday: 04:15–06:10
• News (Spielberg/UFO and 1950s study): 06:32–20:12
• European Bigfoot Sightings: 22:29–33:10
• Cole Hollow Road Monster story: 34:22–58:01
  • Hoax revelation & cultural legacy: 51:32–58:01
• “What’s in the Box?” cryptid game: 61:11–74:26
• Plugs & closing words: 74:28–78:18

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Overall Tone & Takeaways

This episode is both a love letter to long-time fans and an accessible deep-dive for newcomers. Michael and Riley’s banter is humorous, heartfelt, and slyly insightful—mixing bold skepticism with genuine wonder. The Cole Hollow Monster story masterfully encapsulates why legends persist, how belief and hoax intermingle, and why high strangeness continues to fascinate. The playful birthday games and warm community shout-outs make this a standout episode for anyone drawn to stories of monsters—real, legendary, or somewhere in between.

Transcript

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It's Bigfoot Collectors Club with Michael and Riley. I know a story of highest rangness or two. Let's do this.

[A]

That was hands down the weirdest warm up I've ever seen you do. First of all, you don't usually do warm ups.

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It was like pull starting a lawnmower today. I gotta say, it took a few. Just.

[A]

Yeah, that was like. I feel like you were just like, like you were like evoking an emotional like moment from of character work from like Paul Giamatti or something.

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Big, big scene.

[A]

Yeah, exactly. Well, welcome back to Bigfoot Collectors Club, everybody. The show where we talk to amazing guests about their personal paranormal history and share stories of high strangeness. I'm your host, Michael McMillan and with me always is the vampiric Vir Oso.

[B]

Ah, Riley Bray.

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That's right. You know, the Halloween season lingers for us all. It's hard to say goodbye. We're still in the time machine, so it hasn't quite happened for us yet.

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Yes, we're on the cusp.

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My neighbors put up a. You'll love this. A like 7 foot tall illuminated alien blowup.

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Great.

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I literally looked over and saw out of the corner of my eye and went, duh. Like it. Actually, I think it's the one time a Halloween decoration has actually done its job in sc.

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It's back.

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Yeah, exactly. So, yes, I'm excited. My, I hope everybody had a great Halloween. My neighborhood always goes all out, so I love it. There's like definitely people who work in the set deck and prop realm. Yeah, we have some really good yards in my neighborhood. I'm sure I've talked about this before, so I hope everybody had a great Halloween. And I want to welcome all of our new listeners that have joined us over on BCC clubhouse at supercast.com/bigfoot collectors club. Just want to remind our Patreon listeners who are listening, just in case you're hearing this on the main feed. Just reminder, all new content will be only on BCC [e-mail] Moving forward starting this Friday.

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Actually, it's begun.

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It's begun. By the way, that vampiric virtuoso was named by Katie Q. Thank you Katie Q.

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Good one. Classic vampire. I love it.

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I'm very excited because I'm seeing some new faces in the Discord in the BCC Discord. So I'm very excited about that.

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It's been growing.

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Yeah, I'm very excited about that. Guys, come on. Join the clubhouse. Get in the BCC Discord. We're having lots of fun. What else? Little more housekeeping. I want to remind everybody that we do. Even though Zombie Bigfoot's cryptic crypt has closed for the year, we do have some merch still up and available in our merch shop. Holidays are coming up. You can get your regular old wonderful, beautiful artwork by Derek Cole. Or you can get the BCC Old School collection by the Little Friends of Printmaking.

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So classic from the origins.

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That's right. Link in our show notes and in our bio on Instagram. No guest this week. We've been going rogue lately in the clubhouse. We've just part been partying on our own. But that's fine because speaking of parties, guess what? It's time to celebrate with you, my friend, Riley. It is our. Yeah, it's our.

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What are.

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It's our eighth birthday. The podcast is eight years old.

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A surprise party.

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A surprise party. Club Scouts and I have a lot of fun and games planned today.

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I bet you do.

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I really do. We're going to have some cocktails. We're going to have some or d'. Oeuvres. I'm going to serve some cake. And then I actually have some party games planned for the end of the episode.

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Excellent.

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Can you believe it? Our podcast is an eighth grader now. I mean, no eight years old, but a second grader now.

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Well, maybe. Our podcast is very advanced.

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That's right. It's a genius.

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That's right.

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It's already skipped casts in STEM skips, like six grades or whatever. So there you go. I can't believe it. Happy birthday, Bigfoot Collectors Club.

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Eight years. That is crazy.

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Yeah. I did not think we'd be doing this still.

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Me either.

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I mean, I had hoped.

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No, I mean, sure, it'd be fun, but I like the reality of it is funny that we made it this far.

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It's wild. It is truly wild. Because I was, you know, recently going through the backlog on Super Cast and now we're starting to, like, re release our original episodes in order on the AD Free channel. And I'm. I. It. It is. You know, 2017 was like a lifetime ago.

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That was another world.

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It was a different universe that we started in.

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Yes.

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But here we are. And we're entering into year nine. I cannot believe it.

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I think we're just like, equally stubborn that we both just kind of.

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Yep.

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Let's just keep kicking this can, man.

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Yeah. No matter what came at us, we said we're not stopping, so it's not gonna happen. We're still here. And we're here, too.

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And that's the important part.

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That's the important thing. And also, we're here because you're here. Let's just make that clear.

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It's that you're here. Yes. So if you're here, we're here. Thanks for coming to our party.

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Thanks for coming. All right, let's celebrate by serving up some cocktails in the form of get ready Riley.

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News.

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That was very horsey. All right.

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I did go. I went equestrian on the end of it there.

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I love it. Okay, so I have two stories. This first one is a bit more podcast adjacent, but I was thrilled to read this today in Variety magazine, one of those Hollywood rags that I keep my eye on. John Williams is going to be scoring Steven Spielberg's UFO movie, marking the duo's 30th film together.

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That's fantastic.

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I'm. I just. Give me more John Williams Alien music. This is what I want. This is in Variety. John Williams is confirmed to be scoring the next film from Steven Spielberg, marking the 30th cinematic collaboration between the Oscar winning composer and a legendary filmmaker. Almost nothing is known about the narrative of the upcoming movie, which is due in theaters in 2026. The Juilliard School president, Damian Watts confirmed the news during an event. John Williams A Composer's Life A Night of Stories and Music hosted on Monday at the renowned performing arts school. John Williams, who is in LA doing what he does, is working with Steven Spielberg on the next movie. And that is something to be happy about, Wetzel told the audience. So they Their successful partnership began in 1974 with the sugar Land Express, which I've still never seen. I've never seen that one.

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I don't think I've seen that either. That's a blind spot.

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Nope. And then continued with big blockbusters like Jaws, ET And Jurassic park, as well as prestige dramas such as Schindler's List, Saving Private Ryan and Lincoln. You know, he's 93 years old now and he hinted that he was going to retire, but he came back for Dial of Destiny, the new Indiana Jones movie, and that was very cool. And then I guess he decided he's going to come back and work with Steven Spielberg on this One.

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Wow.

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Steven Spielberg's film does not have a title or log line, but is reportedly a UFO adventure. Universal Pictures, the studio that's releasing the tent pole theatrically in June, has described the project as a new original event film. Josh o', Connor, Emily Blunt, Coleman Domingo, Colin Firth and Eve Hewson will lead the ensemble. There's a stack cast.

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Yeah.

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With another Spielberg collaborator, David Kep. Jurassic park, where the worlds in Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull set to write the screen screenplay.

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I also thought, man, they're getting the gang back together.

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Yeah. I thought they were getting. I thought Wyatt Russell was in this. I think he's in it too. And I. I really like Wyatt Russell, so I just think it's great. What's your favorite John Williams score, Riley, if you had to pick one.

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Star Wars.

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The theme. Yeah.

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Yeah. Like, it's got to be the most. It's like one of the most iconic, like movie cinema scores.

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Yes. I mean, I think I am sort.

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Of selecting the whole trilogy. Not like I. I can't pick one thing, but it.

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I mean, Superman.

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God. Jurassic Park. The scores are so good.

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It's so good. I mean, and then. But if I. I think at the one that I find myself Jaws humming the most, probably. Yeah. Jaw just walking around. There's great. We talked about it in the Jaws special there. I mean, there's also like other great music in Jaws too.

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Yeah. Other than the. The two note.

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I think for me, the Indiana Jones theme probably takes the cake.

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Man, it's crazy how many of these scores you can immediately just pull up in your mind, think about other film scores.

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Yeah.

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It's so, so iconic.

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They. I was reading somewhere, I don't think we talked about this last summer, but somebody mentioned. I was reading some article and they were like, John Williams was a pop star in the 80s. Like, kids knew Madonna, Michael Jackson, all the big hits. And then they knew John Williams, you know, and they knew. They knew his songs and could hum his songs like he was massive. He was a household name in my. In my family and, you know, first composer he. That I ever knew about and understood what. What that was.

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Suck it, Beethoven.

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That's right. Beethoven. You can eat. I do like Beethoven. I like the Pastoral symphony, whatever. Whichever one that says the seventh, I think. But yeah, I think Indiana Jones. For me, there's so much good stuff, though. I mean, it's hard to pick and.

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I hope I'm doing anything at 93, let alone like scoring Steven Spielberg movies.

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Still making this podcast.

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Wow. Yeah. I Mean, you could do worse.

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You know, think of all the high strangeness that's going to happen between now and then.

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Oh, yeah, plenty.

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Yeah. I mean, we'll meet robots, we'll interview robots on the show by the time we're 93.

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And maybe aliens do that within a year.

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Probably true. Well, I'm glad to hear this. It's exciting. And I'm also just so excited for an original UFO movie from Steven Spielberg. I hope it, you know. What's your favorite alien movie by Steven Spielberg? ET yeah.

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Yeah. I mean, right? Well, I mean, what else would it be like?

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Close Encounters of the Third Kind, War, the Worlds. Yeah. I think E.T. close Encounters.

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So good. Super 8. Is that, that is even.

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No, that's J.J. abrams trying to be.

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Yes, that's J.J Abrams doing Spielberg. Yeah.

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It's like an Amblin movie.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Didn't love that movie.

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Yeah.

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It's like if they made this, it was, it's like if the shark in Jaws turned out to be like a sad little nice guy after he's killed everybody. And they're like, we forgive you, Jaws. Bye.

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Bye.

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Very weird. A lot of weird tonal choices in that movie. Yeah, yeah, but coolies. Well, I like the way it was shot. Okay. Story two. Moving on. Anyways, anyway, cheers. Story two, you from USA Today. Did aliens spy on our nuclear tests? Study find signs of UFOs near US sites in the 1950s?

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Huh?

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UFO documentaries have long given credence to the theory that otherworldly visitors are interested in humanity. Jesus. Louise's humanity's nuclear weapons.

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I watch a real time melt. It just.

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I was like, it's been eight years.

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All right?

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I was like, I'm noticing that I'm talking like this. And then when you met it, did he just.

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It's when you become self aware and you trip over yourself.

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Listen, two nights ago I came home from the 18 innings Dodgers. I was not stadium, I was not at the stadium. I was just out watching the game with friends.

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Oh, okay. Okay.

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Got home crazy. And Violet was having some sort of breathing attack and I had to rush her to the ER.

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Oh my God.

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And then we were in the ER until 6am so I'm a little wild this week. Okay, great. Fine.

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I love it when you're, you're pitching wild. It's fastballs, baby.

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My, I wish the Dodgers were pitching a little wild right now. I, I, my smoke alarm was chirping because it needed a new battery.

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That makes me insane.

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And I think it like caused the dogs to freak out. And then Violet was, like, panting and her tongue was hanging out and she has congestive heart failure. So I was very worried and I went, well, I'll be watching the World Series, the rest of the World Series at home next to my baby dog. But she's fin. She needed oxygen and a sedative.

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Don't we all?

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Did X rays again. It's all good. Please subscribe to Supercast so I can pay my vet bills. Please, I beg you. Okay, so now researchers claim to have evidence. What if I did just continue to quietly melt down in this episode?

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It'd be a work of art. A true human study.

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Guys, half my underwear have holes in them. Okay.

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That'S just my choice, though, you.

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Know, Like I need. Come on, guys. What are we doing here? Eight years and I'll have to show for it is some holy underwear.

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Oh, wow.

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Yeah. Gotta get shopping. UFOs and nuclear bases. 1950s. Here we go.

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Here we go.

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If you're a UFO enthusiast, you'll probably already familiar with the question. It doesn't matter how. How I launch back into this, no one's gonna believe it.

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1950S.

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They all see the pain beneath us. If you're a UFO enthusiast, you're probably already familiar with a question that crops up regularly in the slew of never ending docu series and congressional testimony. Are otherworldly visitors spying on humanity's nuclear weapons programs? Now, researchers claim that they have found tangible evidence that there may be something to that notion. Studying historical photographs from the late 1940s and 50s. I like that they're just staring closely.

[B]

Waiting to get to like, what is this study? And it's that.

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Yes. Yeah. Under Doge's budget cuts, all they have are magnifying glasses now and old pictures.

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Yeah. Stale coffee. This.

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We're like, we've regressed back to 1950s science. Okay. They were able to spot unidentified flashes in the stars over the northern United States where. Where nuclear testing was being done. The flashes. This is. This, this is new. Which the researchers described as transient star like objects were detected as several mysterious bright spots in the sky. Intriguingly, the objects were captured in the images long before the first satellites were ever launched, ruling out a prime suspect. The dates of the photos also seem to correlate with the timing of many reports of UFOs, the researcher said in a news release announcing the findings. As we know. Because if you were listening to Saucerama, you would know that this is when it all kicked off. The research, which was published in two separate peer reviewed studies. In October. Okay, we're peer reviewed. Comes at a time of renewed interest in UFOs. Yes, yes, yes, Congress. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Flashes of light appear correlated to nuclear tests. Researchers at Stockholm University in Sweden and Vanderbilt University in Tennessee analyzed digitized historical photographs taken between 1949 and 1957 by the Palomar Observatory in California. That's cool. Their goal? To spot short lived flashes of lights. The flashes of lights, or transients, look like stars appearing and disappearing within a single exposure. Today we know the short flashes of light are often solar reflections from flat, highly reflective objects in orbit around Earth. Beatrice Vita Rowell, an astronomer Stockholm University who co wrote the research, said in a statement.

[B]

But because of that makes sense.

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Yeah, but because the photographs were taken long before the first satellite was launched in 1957, it's unclear just what could have been responsible for the flashes.

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Oh, okay.

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See what I'm saying? Okay. I guess there's like meteorites bouncing around up there. That's like. There are a lot.

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The Oort Cloud.

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Yes. Old, old. My old friend. Or to mcordo. Though the researchers stopped short of speculating on the exact nature of the flash draw, a statistical connection between the timing of the flashes with the dates of above ground nuclear weapons tests and anecdotal reports of UFOs. The idea that nuclear weapons have long attracted the interest of extraterrestrials is strongly ingrained within UFO mythology. So they looks like they did 106,000 flashes of lights. Researchers found that they were 68% more likely to occur the day after a nuclear weapons test than on days without. In addition, the number of flashes increases by an average of 8.5% for each report of a UFO sighting. Now this sounds like the beginning of a Steven Spielberg movie.

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It does.

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You know, like somebody's like, look at this. Like nobody, nobody's like believing this.

[B]

Yeah, they're like, I found the. The numbers don't lie.

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I found the correlation magnitude of the association between these flashes of lights nuclear tests was surprising, as was a very specific time at which they were most often occurred. Namely the day after a test study co author Stephen Brule, a Vanderbilt University Medical center anesthesiologist with an interest in UFOs said in a statement, what they might represent is a very fascinating question that needs further investigations. So this was all published on October 20th. And yeah, this is kind of wild stuff. What a weird way. What a cool, weird way to look for UFO activity.

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The one question that comes to mind is could these flashes of light have just also been related to the fact that they just blew up a nuclear bomb the day before. Like maybe some sort of. I don't know. I'm not a nuclear physicist, but radiation. I don't know.

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I thought about that too, but I don't know. Tiny little flashes of light that look like stars.

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It's odd.

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Yeah, it's a weird one.

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Yeah. Atmospheric conditions causing maybe greater reflectivity from high altitude debris from the blast.

[A]

Buddy, we got to get out our magnifying glasses and take a closer look for coffee.

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And let's. Let's find these aliens.

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That's right.

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Years ago.

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All right, well, we're going to take a break and when we come back, we're going to find this episode. We'll be right back. All right, Riley.

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All right, Michael.

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It's been a while since we've done this. Let's nominate our five star club scout of the week. This is a friend of the show who's given us a five star review on Apple podcasts which helps tell Apple that people like the show. And then Apple goes, let me make sure that people know about the show by pumping us out in front of people's eyeballs.

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It has been a while since we've done this. Let's get out to the eyeballs. This one is from katelink S, which sort of sounds like what your parents wi fi network is default name to. And the subject is non toxic masculinity. Nice. Love these BCC boys and their refreshingly non toxic masculinity and light hearted take on the supernatural. If you love the strange offbeat and pop culture, this is the show for you. Five stars.

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Oh, thank you, link S. Thank you so much.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And thank you for helping your parents set up their wi fi router.

[B]

It's a service that we all must pass on to the generation that raised us.

[A]

We really appreciate it. I can't tell you how many times I've done this for my dad since he's been alone. It's crazy.

[B]

It's a duty that you must fulfill.

[A]

He doesn't understand any of it. I love you, dad. Well, let's move along to everyone's favorite hors d', oeuvre, A segment which refuses to go away ever since it first arrived in the summer of 2025. That's right. It's time to see what our old pal Bigfoot's been up to recently. It's time for where in the world is bigfoot? San Diego. No San Diego yet as far as I can see. But looking you Know what I decided to do?

[B]

What?

[A]

Let's put the world into this and let's go check out what's been going on in Europe.

[B]

All right. European Bigfoot.

[A]

That's right. Now the Bigfoot Field Research Organization or the usual site that I use. I didn't see anything about Europe. Maybe I gotta look more closely. So I used a different website called the Bigfoot Mapping Project, which is fun and nerdy. I really like it.

[B]

Great.

[A]

It's basically you just sign up and you say where you are and what sighting you had and then it goes up on a map. Now the problem is some people are more descriptive than others. For example, in Normandy somebody said they saw a male Bigfoot and a little Bigfoot and that's all they said. And I was like, this is one I really want to know more about. But there were no details. There was like a time, a date. It was in 2025, but there was no, no description. So I hovered over Europe and I went to Rotterdam where on February 22nd at 2:30pm of this year, somebody spotted a 7 foot tall bipedal creature. In the winter of 2025, I was in Nestland with my friends. We were sitting on a small hill that overlooked. Z saw that worst of it.

[B]

I was like, good luck, buddy.

[A]

Zeven Hors plus the lake. When a seven foot dark creature appeared to be walking around the lower side of the hill close to the lake. This was after we heard the sound of something hitting wood.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

So wood knocks were involved and then the. The appearance of this very tall dark creature near the seven horseplas.

[B]

Sounds like the setup of a certain author's book.

[A]

That's. Oh yeah, you're right.

[B]

Right.

[A]

I need to get back to that.

[B]

Oh, you could do a whole European series.

[A]

Gosh, yeah. I've kind of totally forgotten about that project. I should get back into it.

[B]

It's easy to do.

[A]

Whoops. I don't know. What do you feel about this one?

[B]

I mean, I like it. I love the idea of European Bigfoot. I mean, you saw it across the lake. It's beautiful, idyllic setting. I don't know, it just seems kind of nice, this one, like.

[A]

Yes, a nice Netherlands Bigfoot, you know.

[B]

Hello.

[A]

Yeah. Doesn't have much of a sense of humor.

[B]

Yeah, okay, great.

[A]

Great baked bread.

[B]

But a beautiful setting.

[A]

Gorgeous setting. Plants tulips.

[B]

That's nice.

[A]

Is there a tulip cryptid? Is there like a cryptid that's like associated with, with tulips? Like plants them or something? You know what I mean, is there some fairy lore about tulips in the.

[B]

Netherlands, man, or something?

[A]

Yeah, maybe. Let's go over to Sweden, near Hamra National park, where on July 24, 2025 at 11:09am, a 7 1/2 foot tall, dark brown male Bigfoot was spotted. And guess what? We got a picture with this one.

[B]

Oh, wow.

[A]

The eyewitness says I was driving towards Vicken when I saw a tall beast in the woods. You know they're European when they describe it as a beast. Yeah, most definitely a Bigfoot. I capture this image from my Garmin dash cam now. Okay, so we can expand this if you want to blow it up. This will be on the YouTube if you're watching or in the show notes or Instagram. Now where do you think this thing is? I thought it was in the lower corner here or the lower third.

[B]

Oh, I'm seeing it right in the center.

[A]

Or is it the thing in the center?

[B]

Dead center.

[A]

Maybe this is just the fact that we're even having this conversation. Yeah, it's not. Well then look in the. And then the. Right there. Looks like there's another one behind the trees with its arms sticking out.

[B]

Oh yeah, I can see that too.

[A]

Maybe there are multiple Bigfoot in this picture.

[B]

I mean these. This is your classic hominid shaped blobs. You know, it's another pin and another little red string.

[A]

Eight years, it just added up to a hominid shaped blob.

[B]

Hey man, all we are are hominid shaped blobs. So, you know, we're doing fine.

[A]

At the end of the day, we are just hominid shaped blobs. Yeah, me especially lately. Come on now, everyone take a look. Let me know, guys. I love myself.

[B]

There you go. There you go.

[A]

We're all blobs. We're all just blobs.

[B]

There's a certain joy in that too.

[A]

You know, I'm okay, everybody. I actually got 11 hours of sleep last night and I've been in a great mood all day.

[B]

That's amazing.

[A]

And then I just. I don't know. Sometimes you sit down in front of a microphone and things happen. Let's head over to Darchington in southwest England, where on August 7, 2025 at 10:30am Somebody saw this. We were in a field to see the blood red moon. I can only assume they were witches, of course. And I felt it watching us from a black shadow in the trees. I didn't see it, but it was definitely there. Also the fact that it was a red moon. Was too much of a coincidence.

[B]

Too much.

[A]

I only felt it for a moment and then it disappeared. This one feels more like well done. This one seems like a vibe and not really exciting.

[B]

This was a Bigfoot vibing. Yeah.

[A]

I felt it watching us from a black shadow in the trees. I didn't see it, but it was definitely there. Yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

There's a blood red moon. I do love it though.

[B]

I mean, they're having a good time. This is.

[A]

Would I want to be there? Quality of life.

[B]

This is what I'm talking about. Yes.

[A]

I would rather be there than most places. You know what I mean?

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

I want to go to a field to see a blood red moon in. In Darlington. Now, finally, I wanted to find one that had a little bit more meat on the bone and I had to go back to 2021 for this. But this was also in England on the Isle of Man, which is an island in between England and Ireland.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

This is cool because the Isle of Man's not big.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Somebody saw an 8 foot tall male, dark brown Bigfoot in September 2021 on the 28th, I believe I was driving on my motorcycle to work on the Isle of Man and I witnessed something which nobody believes to this day. It was a cold and rather foggy morning and I had recently cleaned the oil off my helmet. The night before, my helmet had a good airflow and therefore it did not get fogged up easily even in the cold, unless I had something over my nose. Therefore my vision was clear. I was also wearing my glasses and was 100% certain of what I saw. But I've never seen anything like this before in my life. I don't do alcohol or any form of drugs or whatsoever. Not even coffee or smoking. I know what I saw. And some of the locals have discussed a possibility of this being as of late. Now, hold on here, because Mr. McMillan forgot a chunk of this story.

[B]

I thought this is just this person's storytelling. There's just so much about helmet maintenance and proper use and then it just skips the Bigfoot use of stimulants and like. And that's it.

[A]

Yeah, my bad. I'm gonna hop over to the Bigfoot. So, so far, what do you think? I like the setting of this. You can hear. You can feel the weather and you can. You can hear the sound of the motorbike.

[B]

Yeah, I like the riding style. It's very, very Kerouac.

[A]

I know what happened because when I. When I copy and pasted this, the format was all screwed up and then I deleted something and then it got.

[B]

All the old format, copy, paste, delete.

[A]

This is what my life is now.

[B]

Again.

[A]

Here we go. Not bad, not bad. Okay. Yes, yes, yes. As I. Here's the part we left out. As I was driving along the stretch of road, I noticed the figure come up from my side of the road on the left, look directly at me as I was going past, to which I looked back and forth to where I was going multiple times. It reached its arm out and nearly grabbed me as I went by, to which I wasn't caught. I didn't dare to stop and honked a few times and sped up and drove away. And then that's when they say, I've never seen anything like this in my life. I don't drink. I don't do alcohol. And then it seems like he's hinting that people have been seeing this as of late. The locals have discussed the possibility of this being as of late. Like, are they just, like, talking about whether or not it could happen?

[B]

Like, he's discussed in the. In the pub.

[A]

Yeah, in the pubs. He's caught. He's got. Everybody's captured all their imaginations well, with.

[B]

This descriptive writing style.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

This is like an action. Like. I know, like a Kurt Russell's in this scene.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. No, no. Like, you shan't slow me down. Beep, beep.

[B]

Hong Kong sounds less cool now.

[A]

I just polished my motorbike and my helmet. Beep, beep.

[B]

That's true. He's like, never. Never even had a sip of coffee.

[A]

You can stomp your feet and growl all you like. I shan't be turning around.

[B]

I don't know what this accent is.

[A]

Oh, it's just the guy that I picture on the little motorbike.

[B]

Yeah, he's. He's not, like, riding like this.

[A]

I mean, maybe he was, but I don't know. I picture more polite. I don't know. What do you think?

[B]

I think it's cool.

[A]

European Bigfoot. It happens, and it's happening in 2025, everybody.

[B]

People are seeing things out in their lives.

[A]

2021. I'm gonna be seeing things tonight.

[B]

I know that.

[A]

All right, we're gonna take a break. That one didn't even make sense.

[B]

You taking a bunch of Benadryl today? You're gonna go meet the hat man.

[A]

The hat man's gonna come visit me. Should we do a Benadryl special where we just do a bunch of Benadryl and see if the hat man comes on the show?

[B]

That would be such a funny Episode.

[A]

The Bigfoot Collector's Club Benadryl Special.

[B]

I think we would probably say things we could not put on the Internet.

[A]

Well, we'll listen back and we'll find out. Let's take a break, everybody. We'll be right back for this week's story of high strangeness. You're a guy who just wants to look nice. The kind of nice where you might get a nice compliment on the niceness of your nice new outfit. Good thing Men's wearhouse has everything from polos to jeans and yes, suits. Plus a team to help you find the perfect fit to make sure you look nice. Nice. Love the way you look. Men's warehouse. All right, everybody, it's time to serve some birthday cake.

[B]

Mm.

[A]

It's time for high strangeness. All right, get ready. You're gonna. Are you gonna play a little. Oh, I've invited a band here, a one man band who's gonna accompany the story for us.

[B]

Oh, why don't you give me a. You know what. What do you. What are you feeling? What do you want to hear here?

[A]

1970S. Oh, middle of Illinois.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Woods. But like woods that are also a little swampy and teenagers. Got it. A sheriff that's not impressed monster posses.

[B]

Something a little like this.

[A]

Deep in the heart of Illinois, there once lived a Bigfoot who for one summer was the life of the party. Tall, white and smelly. His fame was short lived, but his legend still blows through the breeze on warm summer nights. Gather round club scouts and hear the story of the Cole Hollow Road Monster. The legend of the Cole Hollow Road Monster, aka Kohomo, began in early May 1972 in Illinois. A local radio station, WIRL 1290 received a call from one 18 year old boy named Randall Emmert. Claimed that he and some of his friends had seen a white haired monster lurking near Coal Hollow Road in East Peoria. They believed the creature might be living under an abandoned house. According to Randall, or Randy, as he often went by, he'd first heard about the monster from a friend about a year earlier. And then a night or two before the encounter, someone in his circle claim to have seen the monster for themselves. My friend had a friend that lived on Kohlhala Road at the top of the hill. And he had car problems one night when he got off and he decided he'll just walk up Call Hollow Road. Cole Hollow Road. Call Hall Road. Everybody knows it Road. Thanks. Now he claims he saw something white and hairy standing there and staring at him. So Randy and his friends went to look he later told a local reporter from the Journal Star, it was there one minute and gone the next. If you just. If you just have someone sit up there, it may take days or weeks, but you'll see it. I love that he's telling the reporter to go sit up there for possibly weeks. Okay, Randy. And stare at some trees. According to the Pine Barrens and Stuff Institute website, the Cole Hollow Road monster is around 8 to 9ft tall and covered in whitish gray hair resembling a cross between an ape and a caveman. It has long round ears, red lips and human like hands. It left behind tracks with only three toes and gave off a putrid smell described like that of a wet dog mixed with rotten eggs or sulfur. Which is exactly the smell Randy had used to describe. Described the monster when the story was making headlines in the summer of 1972. Now why Randy, you're wondering, why did he get the spotlight? Well, he told the Star Journal, I'm kind of a spokesman for the group. The only one who has the guts, I guess.

[B]

Randy.

[A]

So cocky.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

By May 25th, local police had received calls from nervous residents who claimed they had seen. Seen the monster. These reports include seeing the monster walking through fields and backyards. One person even claimed it had torn up their fence, as well as tromping through the woods or alongside the river. Now, the creature which was be coming to be nicknamed Kohomo for Coal Hollow Road Monster.

[B]

Should it be Monster?

[A]

Co Horo.

[B]

Hollow Monster Monster. They're skipping road.

[A]

It should be Co. Hormo. Right? Either way, you have homo or horror in the titles.

[B]

I love you, bro. Co homo.

[A]

Como I co sign this Cohomo.

[B]

Co homo, bro.

[A]

Why would it. Yeah, I guess they're just. If they're gonna leave one out.

[B]

This is. This is why Randy's unchallenged rule of the group. We need. This is why we need democracy, you know. Did you, Randy, be the spokesperson?

[A]

There's a science called Como Cohomology. No, I don't know what it's about. Study mathematics.

[B]

Oh, this episode takes a hard turn.

[A]

It takes a real, real turn. So Kahoma wasn't the only Harry hominid making headlines that summer. This is where things get exciting, Riley, for a little research nerd. The Missouri monster. Do you remember this one?

[B]

Momo.

[A]

Momo was being seen in Louisiana, Missouri at this same time. Randy claimed that all the Momo sightings. And I also think that's why they call it Kahomo to rhyme with Momo.

[B]

Okay, we're trying to do a sidekick spin off here?

[A]

Yeah, they're doing a spin off of the Momo. Randy claimed that all the Momo sightings were what finally inspired him to speak to a reporter from the paper. That July, Randy took staff writer Nancy Willoughbys and staff photographer Tom Carter out to the site and showed her where they'd allegedly seen the monster, even providing the paper with some monster tracks to take photos of. He told the paper that he'd often heard the monster's strange cries. Let's add a long screech like an old steam engine whistle, only more humanly. Ann Kammerer, the mother of one of Randy's friends, said that she believed the boy and that all of her children had seen. Sounds kind of weird. At first I didn't believe it, but then my daughter in law saw it.

[B]

There you go.

[A]

If you're gonna believe anyone, you gotta believe your daughter in law. Yeah, she married your no good son.

[B]

These relationships are built on trust.

[A]

That's right. On the same page of the Journal Star that Randy's story ran in, there was an update coming out of Missouri where an eyewitness claimed that they had seen strange lights in the night skies, prompting the question if there was a connection between Momo and UFOs. I'm gonna drop this actually in the doc in the chat for, for you so you can see what I'm looking at.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And I love this picture. I love this. If this comes through, let me know if it came popped in typing. Let me see. It's just like this newspaper with you can see little Randy. Hold on, let me close it. I see what I do. You can see little Randy pointing into the woods and then he's also pointing at a footprint. I don't know why this isn't popping up.

[B]

Yeah, it just says read blurb.

[A]

Well, that's for me. So let me read. I'll put this up on our Instagram. But let me read this story about the Momo that was happening at the same time because I just thought this was. It's a literal sidebar in the article and I thought this was cool. Great monster tale takes a new twist. Louisiana, Missouri. Reports of a huge, orange eyed, smelly monster roaming the hills near the Mississippi river took a new twist yesterday. Two families living in a rural area between Louisiana and Bowling Green told the Pike County Sheriff's Office that they saw a circle of flashing lights in the area Monday night. The two families who said they preferred to remain anonymous, told the sheriff the lights hovered in one spot or landed for about five minutes. A short time Later, a woman reported she was aware of something walking past her window. She told police she went outside and although she saw nothing, she noticed a rank smell permeating the air. Others in the area, which in the southeast were. Which in southwest of where earlier monster reports originated, reported hearing strange growls during the night, which they said could not have come from farm animals. There were also were new reports of strange footprints being found, but the sheriff's office said the prints were located in a cow path and could have just come from about any old animal. The head of a private group called the International Unidentified Flying Objects Bureau camped out in in the Louisiana era area last weekend, but said he neither heard, smelled nor saw the alleged monster. Hayden Hughes, who heads the bureau, said, however, he believed that there was something in the hills around the Louisiana area and wouldn't rule out the possibility that it came from outer space.

[B]

Oh, I'm jealous of that. Camp out. That sounds fun.

[A]

This is an A plus newspaper article from the heart days of high strangeness. I love this shit. I also love the International Unidentified Flying Objects Bureau.

[B]

That's what I'm talking about.

[A]

Yeah, that's right.

[B]

Going for your alien monster hunting camp out.

[A]

That's it also is just for me. It's like right up there with the Gary Wilcox UFO encounter, like. Oh yeah, this is for sure like the early ambient synth band, you know. This is like craft work, you know. Yes, but it's the. It's the International Unidentified Flying Objects Bureau. Also. How international were they? That's what I want to know. Were they just sending letters to each other or were they actually traveling all over the world? Maybe they just had a fun network, man.

[B]

Pen pals.

[A]

Why don't we have. I mean, we kind of do this with the podcast now, but like, where's our. We need to have like a little network of, you know, we got to get like Steve Berg and Tenny and.

[B]

Jessica an official bureau.

[A]

Yeah, start putting out zines again. Come on, do it. Life used to be better.

[B]

It's still good.

[A]

On July 27, the story was gaining ground. Tazewell. The Tazewell Courier ran a front page story on July 27, 1972 with the eye catching headline big hairy Monster reported in East Peoria, Tazewell County Sheriff Jim Donahue told the Courier, why don't you play, why don't you play Donahue for us?

[B]

Sir, as far as we're concerned, there is no such beast.

[A]

Now, Riley, what happens every single time a small town monster in the mid 20th century gains infamy?

[B]

Monster Posse.

[A]

That's right, baby. The posse showed up. Now, the night before on July 26, the sightings reached the triple digits. 100 people assembled in a monster posse and hunted the forest around Cole Hollow Road.

[B]

That's a serious monster posse. 100 people is a lot of people.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Especially in posse formation.

[A]

Uh huh. And some of them are armed. They brought guns. Tazewell County Sheriff Jim Donahue, who we just heard from, called off the hunt around 7:45pm it's not even dark yet.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

He's like, when?

[B]

When wrap this up?

[A]

Yeah. And this happened after Carl Howell of East Peoria shot himself in the right leg when he tripped. Carl. Carl. Carl.

[B]

Ruined the whole night. We are all here.

[A]

Trips over a log, shoots himself in the leg.

[B]

Damn it, Carl. All right, let's pack it up, everybody.

[A]

Despite the creature never being captured, people still claim to spot Kahomo through the end of that July. On July 25, the same day Randall appeared in the Journal Star, an eyewitness called. An eyewitness called Crevecore Police. I know. Creepcore. What a weird town name.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

An eyewitness. The eyewitness is not called Crevecourt.

[B]

Police understand that. They called a place called Creve Cooler.

[A]

I'm calling Creep Core. This is Creep Core for Creeve. Core, please.

[B]

Creep calling Creeve.

[A]

Called CREEP. Mr. Creeve Core calling for Cree.

[B]

Go for Creeve.

[A]

Creepers. Ago, they called the police to say that they'd seen something big swimming through the waters of the Illinois River. On July 28, a woman picking berries spotted the monster near an abandoned coal mine, dropped everything she'd been gathering. Yeah. And ran away. You know, it's also just like.

[B]

Beautiful blueberries.

[A]

Why are we out there picking blueberries anymore?

[B]

By the. Yeah, by the abandoned mine.

[A]

It's weird because somehow 1972 is more like 1872 than it is 2025.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know?

[B]

Yeah. I mean, I know 2025 is rapidly approaching like 1250.

[A]

That's. Yes, exactly. Yeah. Seriously. So where did I leave off? Oh, yeah. The woman picking berries she saw by abandoned coal mine dropped everything she'd been gathering, ran away. Word started going around that Kahomo might be using old mining tunnels and. And cave systems to sneak around. Also, on July 28, the day of the berry picking fiasco, two reliable, quote unquote eyewitnesses called police to report they'd seen the creature. And they gave a detailed description. The monster was beginning to take a unique form. A cross between an ape and a caveman, with, quote, a face with A long gray U shaped ears, a red mouth with sharp teeth and thumbs with long second joints.

[B]

Hmm.

[A]

We're getting a little goofy here.

[B]

Yeah. What does the U shaped ears mean?

[A]

Like long.

[B]

Oh, like goofy ears.

[A]

Yeah, I think they mean like. Yeah, this is like a weird. This is like getting out of Bigfoot territory and getting into Weird.

[B]

Yeah, weird monster.

[A]

Weird monster and red mouth, sharp teeth. Maybe, Maybe, maybe, maybe an alien. I don't know.

[B]

Could be.

[A]

So what happened to the Coal Hollow monster? You're probably wondering. Well, it received a write up in the July 1974 issue of Fate magazine in a story called Swamp Slobs invade Illinois by legendary Fortians Jerome Clark and Lauren Coleman. Love this. However, Cohomo seemed to fade into obscurity, outshadowed by even B list cryptids like Momo. Sorry, Missouri. You know it's no nessie. Robert Cole, president of the East Peoria historical society told Ciproud.com that stands for Central Illinois proud. The story kind of became a legend for East Peoria. I think the community in itself pulled together to try to figure out what the Cole Hollow monster was about and try to find it. It became part of our history. Some people still believe that the Colhala monster still exists in East Peoria. In 2006, Donahue reflected. Our friend the sheriff reflected on this period and told the peak in times.

[B]

All right, so he's old.

[A]

He's older now. Yeah, it's like 40 years later.

[B]

@ the time, it seemed like a very big deal. Several people indicated they'd seen a monster up in that area. It was described as something like Bigfoot. All the neighbors showed up. We. We spent a lot of time up there. We never found anything to substantiate the claims. We were up there for a week or two weeks. A lot of volunteer people came looking for that monster.

[A]

Sheriff, do you want more lemonade?

[B]

Yes, there's more. And face me towards the window for a while.

[A]

I know you like it extra sour.

[B]

I do like my sour lemons.

[A]

In 2012, a reporter named Duane Bartels of the of the Journal Star wrote an article on Kahomo that began like this. Kahomo is back.

[B]

Oh, hell yeah.

[A]

If you are not a long term area resident, you must be saying what Kahoma is not some new age label like metrosexual. Kohoma was a term that will make longtime residents either smile or roll their eyes. It is the common abbreviation of the Cole Hollow monster.

[B]

Amazing Chef's Kiss 2012 article.

[A]

I had to keep that.

[B]

I had.

[A]

I was like Where? How am I gonna work this into this story?

[B]

Oh man.

[A]

So from what I can tell is Dwayne Bartels has like a column in the Journal Star and he basically was like, got a Google alert about Cole Hollow Road. He was like, why is this popping up? Nobody ever talks about this. And then saw that there was a paranormal investigator who passed away and that one of the stories they investigated was the Coal Hollow Road monster. Which made him go, oh yeah, I remember this story growing up. Let me, let me get back into it. So it's not that the co homo. It's not that co homo actually came back, it's just that this guy remembered it and then decided to write about it.

[B]

A guy remembered it?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

That's nice.

[A]

He goes on. Oh yeah, no, I go on. Upon seeing this, I was hopeful that this meant Kahoma was being seen again. Unfortunately, just meant that the story was making rounds again. And this time there was a disappointing twist. Dwayne Bartels wrote, I looked up Randall Emmer. Now that's the 18 year old boy Randy we all remember. He lives in Peoria. He is a blogger, one who revels in writing incendiary things. What are you writing? I emailed him to see if he would answer questions about what happened in 1972. He said he would. I put together questions and sent them. Sent them. As I waited for his answers, I continued research. I came across a story stating Emmett Emorett had came clean decades later that his claims were a scam. So on June 17th, Randy got back to Barthills in an email. Only 26 questions. Okay, this was a hoax played by some friends of mine and myself on another friend that used to live at the Topical Hollow Road. He had a walk. He had a walk. It from his employment at the old Amaco station below the hill that night about midnight to the top. He swore he saw and heard the monster. So we set him up. Now, Randy claims that he and his buddies brought a white sheet up to Cole Hollow Road to scare their friend and then back up his story. Now I'm not sure if the white sheet was used or not, but that night Randy and his friends told the other guy that they'd seen it too. So they called the radio station that night and by the next day, Randy claims that fish 50 people were looking around the site. The story had already gotten out of their hands and well, Kohoma came to life.

[B]

Yeah, that's crazy.

[A]

The old WIRL 1290 radio show had a call in and he called to say that he actually Saw it. I just simply backed him up and my name was stuck to the story. Sadly, I called into WNBD radio about two years ago and the Peoria Journal did a story about a. The same time. We never saw a monster or a Bigfoot. Although when I first reported on the radio, we did, over 200 people showed up on Cole Hall Row that night looking for Bigfoot. Hell, they came up from Kentucky wanting to camp on my parents lawn. One woman ran her car to the old brickyard and told the cops she did so because the monster was in the road right in front of her. So okay, Randy was lying. But what did his friend see that first night? And what was the white face peering out of him at the bushes? And what about the reports of the ape man with double jointed thumbs? Mass hysteria or is there actually a monster up there? I know what I would like to believe, Riley. The hell was that?

[B]

That was classic Randy. That's what that was. You know, but you know what is interesting about this though is the fact that so many people showed up and they're just ready for it. And then people feel like they see it and they, you know, it's like 200 calls.

[A]

200 calls. People.

[B]

People are seeing it.

[A]

What's the lady seeing at the mining shaft? What. What are the people seeing that has long U shaped ears and. And double.

[B]

Why can't all be.

[A]

Randy, why are you coming up with the story of double jointed thumbs? Like what is this?

[B]

That is true. Like that. The weirdness of that. It just. I don't. I don't know.

[A]

Plus we got all this going on with Momo at the same time and UFO lights and you know, Missouri's not that. Not that far from Illinois. They're neighbors, so.

[B]

Not at all. Yeah.

[A]

Is there some kind of weird hairy monster, you know, UFO wave kind of like. I mean, when was the. Excuse me, was that 1972? When was the Bigfoot? Pennsylvania Bigfoot invasion?

[B]

It was the 70s.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. Let me take a look at this. 73.

[B]

Yeah, there you go. Yeah.

[A]

So right after the summer after this is when that wave happened. So look, this is in the sauce. You know what I mean? Obviously Randy's lying, but I also feel that in all of this, the hoaxes and the tall tales get mixed up with everything and it's part of the whole recipe, you know.

[B]

Yeah, the flowers grow with the weeds, you know.

[A]

Yeah, man, the flowers do grow with the weeds. So I don't know. There's no. Randy loves his flowers, man. And you know, he Loves his weed.

[B]

We're gonna get him real good. Good.

[A]

Whenever it goes to work, I just think, like, I just find it so interesting that, like, what is it about American and small town culture around this time that in one newspaper we're getting two stories and one we now know is not true of, of big hairy monsters hanging out.

[B]

Just Bigfoot and monsters were just in the lexicon then, like aliens are now, like, everybody's right now. Everybody's talking about that rock, you know, which I guess by the time this comes out, we'll find out if it's.

[A]

Aliens or not rock. What?

[B]

You know, the atlas or whatever.

[A]

Oh, the rock.

[B]

Yeah, the new one.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Everybody's talking, you know. Yeah, it's all about aliens and, and.

[A]

Three aisles coming out.

[B]

But 70s though, it was monsters, man.

[A]

Man, I want to go back to monsters.

[B]

Well, they still may come.

[A]

This, I mean, this is like very John Keeley. And I also love the sensationalism of like Lauren Coleman and, and oh gosh, why am I blanking on his name? And Jerome Clark riding, you know, swamp slobs invade Illinois.

[B]

So good.

[A]

They had like such a, like Stan Lee sort of vernacular when it came to this stuff. Like it all feels very comic booky.

[B]

You know, this is when clickbait was fun and.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And you actually, like, ring to it.

[A]

Yeah. And you actually were rewarded with a story about the thing, you know, so I don't know, Randy, you really misled everybody. But I, you know what I say Viva. I say Viva Kahomo. You know what I mean? Viva Kohoma.

[B]

Viva Kahoma.

[A]

All right, well, when we come back, it's time to wrap this party up with a little fun and games.

[B]

Ooh. Okay.

[A]

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[B]

Sounds like it's going in a sort of a saw direction. You want to play a game, Riley? It's been eight years.

[A]

What's in the box, Riley? So you know, every birthday party has some presents. And before you, you have 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 presents.

[B]

Ooh.

[A]

Okay. And let me see. It doesn't matter which one. Let me, let me just say one is a rainbow package, the other is a blue package. The other is a red package. The other is a black package, black wrapping paper, and then the rest is. Is a pinstriped wrapping paper. Okay, so you pick whatever one you want.

[B]

Stripe.

[A]

Yeah. And you're gonna try to guess. Now here's the thing. Before you unwrap it, you're gonna try to Guess what? Cryptid or what, you know, paranormal phenomenon is in the box. Okay.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And you get to have three clues with each package. Okay. You know how I love my rules.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So you can either lift to see how heavy it is, shake it to see if it makes any sound, smell it to see if you can smell anything, slip your hand in under the lid to see if you can feel anything. So touch and then see. I'll even let you peek in the package before you open it. But you can only do three of those with each birthday gift.

[B]

I gotta choose wisely.

[A]

Yeah. Okay, so which package do you want to open first?

[B]

Let's start.

[A]

I should say present.

[B]

Start with black.

[A]

All right. The black package. Okay. Do you want to lift it, shake it, smell it, touch? See? I mean, do you even want to make a guess based on. On the wrapping paper alone? You're.

[B]

I mean, I think it's Mothman, but it would be. You know, it would be silly of me not to at least check a little bit, so I'm allowed.

[A]

All right, so that's my gut. Okay, so what do you want to do first?

[B]

Let's. Let's. Let's lift it.

[A]

It's so light.

[B]

Oh, it's not mothman.

[A]

So light.

[B]

Maybe it's a phantom of some kind.

[A]

Okay, now you get two more. Get two more hints.

[B]

Okay. I feel like peak is a trap. Like, you think that's going to be the good one, but I'm gonna try it anyways. Let's. Let's take a little. Let's take a little peek.

[A]

Oh, there's a pale blue light in there.

[B]

I think it might be some sort of phantom. Okay. And then. Or like a banshee. Can we have a listen? Is there a sound? Is that.

[A]

Yeah, you can. You can shake it to see if it makes sound.

[B]

Oh, okay. Let's shake it.

[A]

You hear the rattling of chains?

[B]

Okay, this is a spooky. This is a spooky ghost.

[A]

That's right. It's a spooky ghost. Good job. That was kind of the easiest one, so that's great that you. You picked that one first. Okay, start on black. Okay, you got four more. Now we're gonna see how many you get. You guess, and then I'm gonna grade you based on how many you guess.

[B]

Okay, let's go to blue now.

[A]

Okay. Any guesses?

[B]

Mermaid.

[A]

Sky's also blue.

[B]

I'm just gonna say that. Ufo. These aren't my official guess. I'm gonna do my due diligence.

[A]

Okay. I'm not gonna Confirm either way.

[B]

Okay, let's. Let's shake it.

[A]

Oh, here's some splashy splashies in there.

[B]

Oh, okay, we're going. Water. Okay, that. That was good. That was big. Let's touch it.

[A]

Slippery.

[B]

Slippery and splashy.

[A]

Get one more hint.

[B]

The. All right, give me a little peek. Just a little peek out of the package. Just a little. Just. Just a corner.

[A]

Okay, you. I let you open a little peek. It is too dark to see anything.

[B]

I knew that would be a waste. I should have smelled it. I should have smelled for the sea. Okay, it's splashy. It's slight slippery.

[A]

Slippery.

[B]

Scaly or slimy.

[A]

Slippery. Slippery. It's slick. In fact, I wrote slick. And it's too dark to see in.

[B]

There.

[A]

Which might be a clue. I mean, these are all clues.

[B]

Yeah, sure, sure, sure. That's some sort of deep cave dwelling slippery.

[A]

Don't forget about the splashies.

[B]

Splashy. It could be ness. Final answer.

[A]

Happy birthday. You got Nessie. You're two for five so far. Okay.

[B]

Was pounding on that one, guys. All right, let's go to.

[A]

You got.

[B]

Let's go to red. We're gonna clear the solid colors. Great, Great, great, great, great.

[A]

All right, what do you want to do? Do you want to lift it? You want to shake it? You want to smell it? You want to touch it, or do you want to see it?

[B]

Smell it. I haven't SM. Smelled anything yet. Whiff.

[A]

Okay. H. Smells sort of sweet, but also stinky.

[B]

Sweet and stinky. Nice. Okay, let's. Let's do a weight check. Let's. Is that part of shaking it?

[A]

No, no. Lift, lift. You can lift up the package.

[B]

Let's lift it up. Yeah.

[A]

Okay, so you lift it up and it's not light, but you could carry it around for a little while before you got tired and had to set it down.

[B]

Might be chewpie. Okay. Okay. Smells sweet, but stinky. Is it Nova? Carriable is not Nova.

[A]

Nova's not. He's a dog. He's not a. He's not a phenomenon.

[B]

You don't know that.

[A]

No, I mean, he. A phenomenon of my heart, but.

[B]

Okay. Okay.

[A]

And you have shake, you have touch, and you have c left.

[B]

Let's touch it.

[A]

You touch it and you feel something furry in there.

[B]

Okay. It's furry. It's medium sized, and it's stinky and sweet.

[A]

Well, I'm just saying the weight is. You can. It's not light, but you could carry it around for a while before you had to set it down.

[B]

So it's not a Bigfoot. I couldn't carry a Bigfoot.

[A]

Could not. I would. I would guess you were not. You would not be able to carry a 500 pound Bigfoot. Yes.

[B]

Yes. Yeah, probably.

[A]

I mean, maybe.

[B]

Who knows, bro? Wow. I'm gonna go with my gut. I thought Chupacabra. Let's go with Chupy.

[A]

You unwrap the present and out pops the alba twitch.

[B]

Oh, how would I. Of course it's the albatross.

[A]

He always.

[B]

No one expects the alpha.

[A]

No one expects the alba twitch.

[B]

All right.

[A]

And just. Just so you know, if you'd shaken it, you would have heard. And if you. If you had peeked in there, you would have seen an apple core.

[B]

That would have gotten me easily.

[A]

Yeah. This is why you got to think. You got to choose wisely. Because some of these hints are. Are stronger than others.

[B]

All right. Let's go rainbow. All right.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Two for three.

[A]

What do you want to do first with the rainbow package?

[B]

Taste the rainbow. That's not one of them. Tasting one. Tasting it isn't one.

[A]

No smell would come close.

[B]

Sniff the rainbow then.

[A]

Okay. You stick your nose down there and you smell moonshine.

[B]

Apple crust. Okay. Applesauce too. Let's. Let's take a little peek.

[A]

You peek into the box and you see a glowing green light.

[B]

A miner, perhaps. Miner's lantern.

[A]

Violet just walked in the room to tell me it's time for her.

[B]

Gotcha. But.

[A]

C O O K I E B O N E. But she's not getting it yet. You're going to have to be patient.

[B]

Coming soon. I have to guess things. Let's go ahead and shake it.

[A]

You shake it. And you hear metal clanging sound.

[B]

Green light. Metal clang. Smells like what again?

[A]

Moonshine.

[B]

Moonshine.

[A]

Think about it. Just think about. Where might you be if you're drinking moonshine or.

[B]

Goblin.

[A]

What's that?

[B]

Kentucky goblin.

[A]

You open it up and out pops one of them Kentucky goblins. Because remember when they shot at it, it made a metal sound. Yeah. And then. So if you lifted it, it would have been the same. It's not light, but you could carry it for a while. Yeah. And then if you were to touch it, I would have said. Is that an antenna?

[B]

Kentucky goblin. All right. I'm doing pretty good. I'm proud of myself here.

[A]

Now you have the final package. It's pinstripes.

[B]

Pinstripe. All right, let's.

[A]

Lift. Shake. Smell. Touch. See?

[B]

Shake it.

[A]

You shake it.

[B]

So like sand. Kind of like.

[A]

Yeah, kind of sandy. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You start making music with it.

[B]

Whoa.

[A]

Man. Man, I just hear music everywhere. The president is music.

[B]

The worst guy. Let's have a little peek. A little peaky.

[A]

It's hard to see anything up close. Maybe if you had a higher view.

[B]

I don't understand that. Huh? Okay, I guess it sounds like sand. It's hard to see up close. Maybe if you had a higher view. I guess. Let's smell it.

[A]

He's sniffing and it's dusty.

[B]

Well, that's the same as shaking it.

[A]

You know what? I'll let you. This one's tough. I'm gonna let you do the other two.

[B]

All right, let's hear it. Let's go all the way.

[A]

So you just tell me what you want to do and I'll.

[B]

Let's lift it now.

[A]

It's impossible to lift.

[B]

Oh, an impossible amount.

[A]

You cannot pick it up.

[B]

Wow. Okay, what was the last one?

[A]

The touch.

[B]

Hey, let me touch it. It feels like sand.

[A]

Feels like fine pebbles.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

Now, I'm gonna give you one more hint. These don't have to be creatures. It could just be a gift of. Of the unexplained passing sands of time. Let's go through it again. It's impossible to lift.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

It's. You hear sand. It smells dusty. There's fine pebbles, and when you look at it, it's hard to see anything up close. Maybe if you had a higher view.

[B]

Oh, it's the Nazca Lines.

[A]

It's the Nazca lines. Happy birthday. Yeah, boy.

[B]

Nice.

[A]

Well done. Did you have fun with that game?

[B]

That was fun. I can't believe no one's ever devised a series of riddles for me. That's exciting. I feel like I get to cross a bridge now or something.

[A]

Four? Yeah. This is. You came to the. Finally, after eight years, you discovered that I'm the troll bridge you get to cross. I release you now. Go run free, Riley.

[B]

But wait.

[A]

Yes. So you got four out of five, which is very good. Pretty good. You know what I mean? What does that average come out to?

[B]

What?

[A]

What grade is four out of five?

[B]

An 80.

[A]

If I got four out of five, what grade is that? I would say 80.

[B]

It's 80, right? I said 80. Oh, God.

[A]

A little over.

[B]

I mean, it shouldn't just 80.

[A]

You got a B. Got a B minus.

[B]

Actions, baby. I had a B minus on fractions as well.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. I'm gonna give you a B plus. In fact, I'm gonna give you an A minus. You just.

[B]

Credit. Come on.

[A]

Oh, there is an extra credit question. Actually, I Forgot. I forgot. Can you. Can you guess which NAZCA line formation it is? If you get this right, I will round you up to an A plus just like blind. Just guess which one it is.

[B]

The little guy.

[A]

The little.

[B]

With his arms like that.

[A]

No, it's the spider.

[B]

It's the spider.

[A]

I almost put the astronaut. I almost put the little guy because I knew you guessed at first, but of course, I'm sorry, you still got to be. And you know what? Now you got five presents. It's been a good party.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

All right, everybody, it's time for you to go home now. This party's over.

[B]

Party's over. Get out.

[A]

Do you want to have anything to plug? You've been over in Collector's Corner. You've had a lot of little. You're posting a lot of action on Peace drone dot net. Do you want to plug anything?

[B]

I mean, just go to peace drone.net. there's a couple of ambient modules. They're in various states of experimentalism. They all work. I wouldn't say they all work perfectly on mobile. They're pretty demanding on your.

[A]

Your machine.

[B]

But I'm working on it and I don't know, I thought it would be fun to like, develop these things, like public, like, while they're live. So I'm constantly updating it. But I've made some really interesting sort of sound toys. Thing that is perhaps most useful is a stringed instrument tuner that works really, really well. And I've been getting feedback from a bunch of my musician friends that have been using it, and they're all really liking it. So I'm excited that I actually built something useful, not just like, you know, virtual wind chimes, which I would argue are also very useful. But you be the judge of that yourself. Just go to peace drone.net check it out. It's, you know, art and science and fun.

[A]

Great. I love it. I plugged this last week, but just in case people didn't listen to the original outro I recorded for the Collector's Corner. I wrote it for the. For the declassified. I was recently on Jana Schmieding and Brian Bahi's podcast called Sage Based Wisdom. It's very fun. We talk a lot about a lot of paranormal stuff. So go check that out. And you know what I would really, really love is I would love. I just love for everybody to go to our YouTube channel. Please give us a follow and please watch the. The Eldridge Hotel Ghost Quest that we did. It's. It's.

[B]

It's really Fun. I think you'll like it.

[A]

You guys are missing out. Like, I. I just. I. It's. It's less about, like, how many views is it getting? And it's more like, I know you guys haven't watched this, and this is one of my favorite things that we've done.

[B]

We know how many of you are. I do know how many of you are watching.

[A]

Yes, we do.

[B]

In fact, we can see actually through your computer. We're watching you right now.

[A]

Yeah, we're seeing you right now. But anyway, I just, like, we worked so hard on that. It was so fun. And I just like, it's not a one to one of the episode that we did.

[B]

Not at all.

[A]

It's. It's like 95. All original material. And in fact, there's a part in the special where, where I cue you guys if you want to go listen to the episode. This is when the episode. The audio episode happens. So go check out Ghost Quest, Eldritch Hotel. Go check out the other little documentary videos we did in Kansas. We did a bunch of other little shorts we had so much fun doing. It was the most fun I've had doing the show in a long time. And I want to do more of these, but we want to do more of these if you guys like them and want to see them. So check it out and let us know.

[B]

Yes, please.

[A]

Yes, please. Okay, we're gonna cross over to the other side for our annual round of ultimate or believe it. We'd love for you to join us for that on BCC [e-mail] you get three bonus episodes every month. On the other side, you get access to the Beefy BC Beefy. The Beefy AD Free Episode channel. The BCC AD Free Channel. And you also get access to the Cosmic Track channel from Riley. You can find the link to that in our show notes and in our Instagram bio, Epic Foot Collectors Club. If we don't see you there, we will see you here next Wednesday. Until then, good night and go get regressed. Happy anniversary, baby.

[B]

Happy anniversary.

[A]

Happy birthday podcast.

[B]

Yeah. Love you guys.

[A]

Love you.

[B]

Love you.

[A]

Cohomo, baby. Bigfoot Collectors Club is executive produced by Riley Bray and Michael McMillan and engineered and edited by Riley Bray. Our theme song is Come Alone by Suneaters courtesy of Lotus pool Records for ad free listening and bonus episodes every month, join BCC Clubhouse on bcc.supercast.com Want to see us watch video episodes and exclusive content on YouTube.com advitfootcloud collectors.