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Summary

Bigfoot Collectors Club

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Episode: "The Pennsylvania Bigfoot/UFO Invasion - Part II" w/ Steve Berg

Date: February 19, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this episode, hosts Michael McMillian (actor) and Riley Bray (musician) are joined by returning guest Steve Berg (High Strangeness podcast, actor/writer) for a deep-dive continuation into one of North America's wildest unsolved mysteries: the Pennsylvania Bigfoot/UFO Invasion of 1973-74. Building on last week’s installment, the hosts and Steve explore overlapping reports of massive, bizarre creatures and UFOs terrorizing rural Western Pennsylvania, focusing on investigator Stan Gordon’s landmark ‘Silent Invasion’ case files. The discussion weaves between storytelling, analysis, and comedic banter, delving into one of the most documented flaps of “high strangeness” on record.

Key Themes:

• First-hand accounts of cryptid and UFO phenomena
• Mutilated evidence and suspicious interference
• “Men in black” figures
• Disappearances, strange smells, and unique creature traits
• Questions of credibility, memory, and the boundaries of reality

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Clubhouse Banter & Getting Started

[01:19–04:55]

• Michael and Riley joke about the episode's visuals and set design, giving thanks to listeners for listener-submitted nicknames.
• Discussion of a notably esoteric 5-star podcast review sparks a riff on sentience, perception, and reality being 'porous'—setting the tone for weirdness to come.
• Steve Berg is welcomed back for a rare back-to-back deep dive: “I couldn’t be more excited. As you know, I am such a fan of Southwestern Pennsylvania weirdness. It’s one of the spots where it happens, folks.” (Steve, 04:55)
• Steve ranks the world’s weirdest hotspots, naming Southern Wisconsin and Pulaski County, Kentucky, as two of the other “top three” areas for high strangeness.
• Lighthearted interlude as Riley's dog Nova disrupts the studio, which devolves into playful old-timey movie banter.

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Setting the Scene—The 1973 Pennsylvania Flap

[09:43–16:19]

• The hosts recap the state of play in late August 1973:

  • Westmoreland County is awash in reports of UFOs and 8-10 ft, pointy-eared, red-eyed, three-toed creatures.
  • Stan Gordon (age 26) and the Westmoreland County UFO Study Group (WCUFOSG) are inundated with calls.
  • “It was August 1973 and there was high strangeness afoot in Pennsylvania.” (Michael, 09:43)

• Case: The Tanya Lake Encounter ([11:16])

  • Pseudonyms are used throughout Stan Gordon's reports.
  • Tanya Lake flees her home at 3am after seeing a tall, ape-like creature with reddish orange eyes and fangs.
  • Large three-toed tracks found around her house.

• Sue Mace’s Encounter ([12:19])

  • Sue awakes to see a towering creature peering into her second-story window (window 9 feet off ground).
  • Creature described in detail as having a gorilla-like, round face, deep-set dark eyes, flat nose, wrinkled burnt-looking skin.
  • Steve’s humorous Stan Gordon impersonation: “The nose was flat and pushed back and similar to a gorilla. The eyes were more round than oval, and it seemed deep set...” (Steve as Stan, 14:43)
  • Phenomena includes metallic sounds, a sulfur stink, and shadowy figures; common motifs throughout this wave.

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Interference and Evidence Tampering

[16:21–26:15]

• Reports proliferate of hairy creatures peeping through windows, making metallic sounds, and leaving lingering foul odors.
• A witness claims a creature with glowing green eyes (not red) throws rocks at his house.
• Attempts to collect physical evidence are thwarted—hair samples and field reports repeatedly vanish in the mail.
• Stan begins to believe: “Someone or something had been tampering with their investigation.” (Michael, 19:02)
  • Multiple incidents of phone call interference, with voices growing “so electric and robotic” (Michael, 17:39, 18:43).
  • Reports stolen from locked cabinets; plaster casts destroyed.

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Men in Gray—Classic High Strangeness Motifs

[22:17–29:58]

• Beverly Burns’ Encounter ([22:17])
  • After seeing a husky, 5-6 ft cryptid stripping electrical lines from her mobile home—preceded by "baby cries"—Beverly is visited by a “UFO investigator from Ohio.”
  • Man in a gray jumpsuit, with a UFO/Ohio badge, forcibly collects hair samples, destroys photographic evidence, and obliterates the creature’s tracks, uttering, “It has been destroyed.”
  • “This guy gets weirdo of the year award for 1973.” (Michael, 25:29)
• Steve points out this “gray suit” character hits all the Men In Black tropes, adding: “This particular case has all the big motifs...metal on metal sound, baby cries, and electrical interference... I mean, are we dealing with classic Men In Black stuff?” ([25:47])
• Discussion of orgone theory (Wilhelm Reich), postulating that trailer parks—being dense metal—could “capture sexual energy” and generate more high strangeness activity.

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Not Just Bigfoot: A Menagerie of Monsters

[30:00–34:45]

• Sightings extend in variety: gray, polka-dotted creatures, horned beasts, dog-like cryptids with humps or tiger-like fangs, and even a winged “man-like” entity in Dongle.
  • Ex: “A grayish bipedal creature with a white mane, curved horns, tiger-like fangs and grizzly claws”—one farmer claims it stole his goose and, when chased, threw the goose back at him. ([31:00–32:20])
• High frequency and diversity suggest something more than mere folklore.
  • “They feel different...it’s very Dungeons and Dragons.” (Riley, 33:15)

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Linking Bigfoot & UFOs—Encounters of Coincidence

[35:31–39:27]

• Michael highlights reports where cryptids and “craft” directly intersect:
  • September 1, 1973: Three women observe a metallic rectangular craft land in a field; steps descend; two tall, hairy creatures rush out and vanish into woods.
  • September 27, 1973: Two girls on bikes encounter a white Bigfoot with glowing orb. Soon after, a UFO emits a beam into the woods; their father investigates, later denies memory, but acts disturbed—proclaims doomsday is nigh.

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The Palmer Farm Incident: The Pinnacle Case

[40:08–64:12]

Steve Berg Tells the Story

[40:44–56:27]

October 25, 1973, Uniontown, Fayette County

• Multiple witnesses, including police, observe a “large red object” over a farm.
• Palmer family (pseudonym) and others see two “hairy covered creatures with bright red eyes making baby sounds” approach a barn by fenceposts, waiting for one another as they progress.
• One boy fires tracer and live rounds at them—the shots sound like they’re striking water.
• The UFO morphs into a glowing white dome and vanishes, leaving behind a “giant puddle of light” so bright you “could read a newspaper by it.” ([46:25])
• Investigators arrive within hours: circle of light has faded but is still visible and slightly radioactive; sulfurous stench hangs in the air.

Transcendent Aftermath

• “Steve Palmer Jr.” (pseudonym; real name George, per Steve) starts convulsing, making guttural inhuman sounds, going into a trance, and suffering apocalyptic visions.
  • “Started going a little weird. Like he started going into convulsions…it looked, felt, and seemed like a possession.” (Steve, 49:44)
• Claims new abilities—no longer needs thick glasses, can summon birds, experiences poltergeist activity at home.
• Life derailed by the event; corroborated later by investigator interviews and his own son.
• “It absolutely turned Steve Jr’s life upside down...he was pretty tortured.” (Steve, 53:21)

Audio of his episode exists but Stan Gordon refuses to release it due to promises to the family (55:04).

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Analysis & Theories

[66:36–77:36]

• The hosts reflect on the depth and authenticity:

  • “This is one of my favorite things we’ve covered on the show.” (Riley, 70:38)
  • Contrasts with known folklore; creatures differ from classic Bigfoot.
  • Timing (pre-internet, pre-mass media) and lack of “contamination” among witnesses adds weight.
  • “This is just its own genre. It’s its own genre.” (Michael, 74:19)

• Steve observes: “The 60s and 70s were just the craziest time for UFOs and Bigfoot...we were seeing hundreds of different manifestations.”

• The team discusses the possibility of government coverups, the “juice” of high strangeness, and how Stan Gordon’s work was long ignored by skeptics for blending UFOlogy and cryptids—a now increasingly embraced approach.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On the palimpsest of weirdness:

  • “Someone or something had been tampering with their investigation.” (Michael, 19:02)
  • “This guy gets weirdo of the year award for 1973.” (Michael on gray jumpsuit man, 25:29)
  • “Tracer rounds are just like rounds that you can see at night, right? They’re not, there’s no payload.” (Steve, 44:14)

• On documentation:

  • “He [Stan Gordon] was reporting these things as they were happening. And people did not like that...The UFO people hated it. The Bigfoot people hated it. The paranormal people hated it.” (Steve, 72:47)

• On the best high strangeness case:

  • “I think this is the best high strangeness case of all time.” (Michael, 70:44)
  • “This is the most underrated high strange book that has ever been written. I hope one day this is as popular as the Mothman because it absolutely should be.” (Steve, 63:56)

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Timestamps of Key Segments

• Intro & banter: 01:19–04:55
• Weirdness hotspots & studio hijinks: 04:55–08:16
• Setting the flap scene: 09:43–16:19
• Case reports, interference, men in gray: 16:21–29:58
• Cryptid diversity, credibility issue: 30:00–34:45
• Linking UFOs & Bigfoot: 35:31–39:27
• Palmer Farm Incident (detailed): 40:44–64:12
• Theories & wrap-up: 66:36–77:36

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Tone & Style

• Intimate, irreverent, and enthusiastic. The conversation blends deep respect for the material with comedic riffs and playful “what-if” speculation.
• Direct, colloquial, and rich with references to both outsider folklore and pop culture.

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Listener Takeaway

If you missed this episode, you missed a fast-paced journey into one of America’s strangest, least-explained paranormal outbreaks. The hosts, boosted by Steve Berg’s dedicated research, recount a series of sightings so numerous, well-documented, and bizarre that they challenge the boundaries of every “normal” category—UFOlogy, cryptozoology, or folklore—offering a compelling argument that, just maybe, the weirdness of 1973-74 Pennsylvania remains unmatched.

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Further Reading/Viewing Suggestions

• Silent Invasion by Stan Gordon (primary source).
• Watch “Invasion on Chestnut Ridge” (Small Town Monsters documentary).
• Dig into newspapers.com and UFO/cryptid zines from the 1970s for original field reports.

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Closing

For bonus content and in-depth spillover, check out the BCC Patreon. For “weirder than fiction” mysteries and cryptid lore—Bigfoot Collectors Club has you covered.

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End of Summary.

Transcript

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[B]

It's Bigfoot Collectors Club with Michael and Ring.

[C]

I know a story of highest rangess or two.

[B]

Let's do this.

[A]

Hey, everybody. Welcome to Bigfoot Collectors Club, the show where we talk to amazing guests about their personal paranormal history and share stories of high strangeness. I'm your host, Michael McMillan. With me always is your galatian spirit.

[B]

Oh my. Riley Bray.

[A]

That. That nickname for Riley was submitted over at the other side by member Brendan M. Thanks, Brandon. Thanks, Brandon.

[B]

Good one.

[A]

We're gonna get right into it. We're picking up hot on the heels of our Deep Dive series into the Pennsylvania Bigfoot UFO invasion from last week to do so, returning for the first time in club house history, we have in back to back Deep Dive episodes. You know him, you'll love him. He's from the podcast High strangeness and a million things you've seen on your tv. It's Steve Berg. Steve Berg is back.

[C]

Yay. How you guys doing? Good to be. I'm fired up.

[A]

It's good to see you too. And I will remind our listeners you can also see us if you're watching over at YouTube on the Bigfoot Collectors Club channel so you can watch this episode along with us. You know, you get to see backdrops. I've got comic books and my backdrop. Steve's got stars in his backdrop. And Riley has the coolest home in Los Angeles history in his backdrop.

[C]

Riley has like the kind of background that I would put a fake background on to make it look like.

[A]

Yeah, that was cool.

[B]

It's a little clutter. I still have my, my Valentine's Day table going.

[C]

It's so tasteful though. You have. You have like a good aesthetic going on.

[B]

Oh, thank you.

[A]

Yeah, he Curates. That's the thing, is Riley Bray is nothing if not a curator.

[B]

Ain't that the truth.

[A]

It's the truth. All right, let's nominate Riley, our five star Club scout of the week. Now, before we get into this, I do want to say I'm going to take off my reading glasses and look directly into the monitor. We need some more five star reviews over on Apple Podcasts, please. It helps, guys get the show to more people and then we get to read things that you say here on the show.

[B]

Tell us how good we are.

[A]

Yeah. And then we'll tell you how cool you are. That's how this works.

[B]

Co validation. Well, this one comes from Delphine Violets and they say one of my favorite podcasts. These boys are great. I love to listen and to get to explore theories and concepts I've never thought to fathom before. Leading me to the question, if we think about reality and life as a huge scale of environments with the elemental molecules and cellular structures exist as sentient beings in their own lives and environments, it's these kinds of scales that make answering questions like what is an environment and what is a watershed so hard to answer because the same compartments of these can exist at so many scales, being one and the same, but also different. Five stars. That is an esoteric podcast review if there ever was one.

[C]

I'm tingling. I love that.

[B]

Perhaps that review itself is sentient. Will never.

[A]

Yeah, I think so. Thank you so much, Delphine Violets. You have one of the coolest handles I've ever heard. My dog.

[C]

Good brain. And nice brain on you, too.

[A]

Yeah, nice brain on you. Why don't we have you on the show? You can wax pontificate on the esoteria, right?

[B]

Sure.

[A]

Guys, it's Monday morning. What am I supposed to do? What am I gonna do? It's. It's Monday morning. I got my. I'm on my second cup of coffee. I've been mainlining UFOs and Bigfoots for. For over a week now.

[C]

Reality is porous for you right now.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

Steve, how excited are you to get into what we're going to talk about today?

[C]

I couldn't be more excited. This is, you know, as you know, I am such a fan of southwestern Pennsylvania weirdness. It's one of the spots where it happens, folks. Like, I think top three, I put this top five in the world, but I put it definitely in the top three in the lower 48.

[A]

In terms of locations of high strangeness.

[C]

Absolutely.

[A]

Where. So what would be what would be in that top ranking along with it.

[C]

Oh, I'm going to go with the controversial one, which wouldn't be on most people's list. Southern Wisconsin, southwestern Pennsylvania, and Pulaski County, Kentucky.

[A]

Okay. What's controversial about those choices?

[C]

I think most people wouldn't say southern Wisconsin, but, you know, over the course of the next year, my podcast, I'm going to make it abundantly clear to people that Wisconsin is, if not the weirdest, one of the weirdest states.

[A]

Beast of Bray Road, anyone?

[C]

Now you.

[A]

Are you going out to the locations where the Beast of Bray Road happened?

[C]

I've already been there, like twice, dude.

[A]

Oh, boy.

[C]

I mean, no, I go to Wisconsin every summer just to vacation. I'm like, obsessed that it might be my next move. But, yeah, I have been to a lot of these spots. It's gorgeous.

[A]

Very excited about this. And then the other one was Kentucky.

[C]

Pulaski County, Kentucky. Yeah.

[A]

What happened there?

[C]

Like, everything. I mean, first off, it's one. They call it the. What's it called? It's got some. The something Anomaly. The Kentucky anomaly. It has one of the biggest pieces of quartz underneath. So it's basically has this giant piezo electric effect. I think that in Sedona are the two biggest. But it's right on the 37th parallel. Long history. Long history of Bigfoot, disincrnate voices, UFOs, weird political crime, like true crime. And it's got everything. It's so deeply weird.

[A]

Riley's waving at us. I I. What happened? Are you good, Nova? Unpleasant.

[B]

No.

[C]

1.

[A]

We have interference from Nova, everyone's favorite. Nova got so much love in one of our episodes a couple weeks back, and now he's just laying under the desk unplugging Riley's cords.

[B]

Nova unplugged my interface. I'm back.

[A]

You know what? It's the Beast of Bray Studio.

[B]

Dude, seriously, he's getting so ornery.

[C]

He's just like the Beast of Riley. Bray Studio.

[B]

I allowed him onto the bed one time and now he's just like, at night. He will not allow sleep if he is not sleeping on the foot of the bed. It's ridiculous.

[A]

Riley, check your mic cord, because now it sounds like you're coming over your computer mic and not your smooth mic.

[B]

Yeah, I probably am. I think. Let's stop.

[A]

We'll just stop here, everybody. We'll be right back.

[C]

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[A]

Okay, so what happened was Nova unplugged a cord under Riley's studio. We don't know how much ended up in the episode, but we had to take a quick break. Sorry.

[B]

Somehow while sleeping, he managed to unplug my interface. He's really going into prime form in.

[A]

His old age here, Riley, do you think.

[B]

Old man?

[A]

We just joked about him being the beast of Bray Studio, but do you think that maybe Nova's been the ghost in the machine this whole time on the podcast?

[B]

Just a delightful scamp pulling out cables? Yes, I do.

[C]

Great use of scamp, by the way. Wow.

[A]

Yeah, I think that's the first time I've heard the term scamp outside of like a Tom and Jerry cartoon, maybe ever.

[B]

Look, ever since I gave up streaming, I've been watching a lot of really old movies on Blu Ray. Yeah, you're about to get some transatlantic slang.

[A]

Soon he's gonna start coming on talking like this.

[C]

Riley, is that a filterless cigarette you're smoking?

[B]

My God, you're right, Steve. One recommended by two out of three doctors for pregnant Women.

[A]

Riley, I noticed you've been nerves sporting a lot of finger waves lately in your hair. It's not a bad look.

[B]

Let's wrap this up, boys. I need to see my haberdasher.

[A]

All right, here we go everybody. Let's dive into some high strangeness. All right, you boys ready?

[B]

Let's get into it.

[A]

Here we go. When we last left off, it was August 1973 and there was high strangeness afoot in Pennsylvania over the course of the year. The people of Westmoreland county were experiencing an uptick in UFO activity which coincided with sightings of 8 to 10 foot tall hairy creatures with pointy ears, glowing red eyes, who left behind large three toed footprints. In their wake, 26 year old Stan Gordon and his team of plucky paranormal investigators known as the Westmoreland County UFO Study Group, or wcufosg, were taking calls daily reporting highly unusual activity involving strange lights and cryptid sightings all around the area. The amount of reports were overwhelming and things were still heating up in the dog days of summer. Let us return to this moment in time and continue our peek into the strange flap that we call The Pennsylvania Bigfoot. UFO Invasion Part 2. On August 28, 1973, Stan Gordon arrived at the Beach Hill homes of a woman he called Tanya Lake. Now I'm just going to pause and say that all of these names are pseudonyms because most of these people did not want to seem crazy because of the old stigma of I report a UFO and a book a Bigfoot together, people are going to think I'm cuckoo bananas. So Tanya Lake is the name that he gives this woman and every other name we're going to hear is not the real P person's real name. Now Steve might have a little insight to some of this as we get down. You got a little tidbit I know. Yeah.

[B]

Tanya Lake sounds like the host of a trashy daytime TV show.

[A]

Tanya Lake is on her like third affair during her fifth marriage.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Earlier that morning Tanya had phoned Gordon's hotline after fleeing. Now I just keep picturing like one of those like 80s wrap dresses that like, you know, with the plunging V neckline, pearls and like a real Sybil shepherd like blowout.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. Luxurious, very DYN feathered.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I'm in love with Tanya Lake.

[C]

Yeah, I was going to say like I'm falling for her.

[A]

H. Okay.

[C]

I do love her. Yes.

[A]

Can we call the music for this episode, Riley, Tanya's theme?

[B]

Sure. Okay, done.

[A]

So Tanya had phoned Gordon's hotline after fleeing her home because she came face to face with a tall ape like creature with reddish orange eyes and fangs. It was around 3am When Tanya heard a strange owl like screech coming from her yard. She turned on the light and the tall hairy figure rose from a crouched position outside of her window and stared directly at her. Gordon arrived later that morning to investigate the scene there. A police officer informed him of a of giant three toed tracks they had found around the house. This was just two weeks after Gordon had found his second three toed track with similar markings in Hutchinson. And those two weeks had been rife with high strangeness. Tanya Lake's story mirrored an account that had taken place at the home of sue mace of Derry, Pennsylvania on August 21st around 2:30am Sue Grace. Sue Mace. Excuse me. Had been sleeping. It doesn't. It doesn't matter. It's a made up name. We could call her Mace or Grace. It doesn't matter. I like Mace. Because she sounds like she does not around. Sue Mace had been sleeping with her bedroom window next. With her bedroom window open next to the bed and the drapes parted to let in the cool night air, she awoke with a start to see A tall creature peering at her from only three feet away. Sue's window was nine feet from the ground, and she noted that the monster was so tall that it actually had to bend down to get a look at her. That's pretty wild. I mean, these things. These things are tall. We're talking like, we keep getting reports of like 10 to 11 foot tall, lanky, hairy creatures.

[C]

Yeah. This isn't the shack size. That's. That's child's play. These are real deal.

[A]

This is a real deal.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

This makes Shaq look like a Polly Pocket accessory. Okay. According to Sue. And get ready, Steve, because you got a roll coming up here.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

The creature had a round face and dark hair. In Stan Gordon's notes, Sue got a fairly detailed look at the part of the face that she could see. And this is Stan's. These are Stan's field notes right here.

[C]

And I'm gonna do my best Stan Gordon impression. So, you know, red leather, yellow leather. Okay, here we go. The nose was flat and pushed back and similar to a gorilla. The eyes were more round than oval, and it seemed deep set in the cheekbones. The eyes were dark with no whites and eyelids. Eyelashes or eyebrows were seen. Underneath the eyes were wrinkles or layers of skin which looked almost burnt. The skin around the eyes and nose. I better be flash colored.

[A]

First of all, I love the idea of this guy showing up at every police investigation and asking questions. And they love him.

[C]

I think I was 71% there.

[A]

I think you should play Stan Gordon in the biopic.

[C]

I did it. I mean, look, if anyone has $1 million, we can do this.

[A]

We can do it right now. Yeah, we'll stop this episode and we'll go make that movie.

[C]

We need the work.

[A]

As the creature dipped away from sue from view, sue ran to her teenage daughter's room, who told her mother that she'd seen an elongated shadow of a tall creature wipe across her bedroom wall. The night before, they had heard strange metallic sounds, like metal rubbing on metal or the rattling of a tin can that had made their dogs go crazy. These strange metal on metal sounds would be reported by other eyewitnesses throughout the year. And this event was followed by the presence of a horrible stench that remained in the house for days. Again, a sulfur stink in the air. And Stan Gordon said that when he went to talk to the family, the smell was still hanging around. He could smell it.

[B]

Whoa.

[C]

Oh.

[A]

The 10 foot tall peeping Tom had been turning up in people's yards all over the county in late August, peering Into windows, leaving claw marks on windows. And in at least one case, walking along the roof of a home in Allegheny county, A rattled man called the WCUFOSG member Ken R. I'm getting pretty good at that.

[C]

Better. It's getting better.

[A]

Ken r. Who upon arriving at the man's house, found him armed with a shotgun and bible in the company of his frightened wife and cowering German shepherd.

[B]

And what a scene.

[A]

The man. There's a monster.

[C]

So Lynchian. Yeah, it really is.

[A]

The man claimed that a hairy creature with glowing green eyes had been tossing heavy stones out of the field towards their house. And he called it a devil. He was like, the devil is outside of my house throwing rocks at us. Now, this is also, I want to take note, the first time that I think, at least in the series, that we've heard of one of these creatures having glowing green eyes instead of red eyes or reddish orange eyes. And that's going to come into play in a little bit. Ken had been able to collect a few stinky hair samples and called Stan Gordon. Ken told Gordon that he'd mail him the hair samples along with his field report, but they never arrived. Ken mailed a second hair sample to Gordon, walking the envelope down to the post office himself. And still the evidence never made its way into Gordon's hands. It was around this time that Stan Gordon began to wonder if someone was interfering with the WCUFOsg's investigation into all of the strange Bigfoot UFO activity. Gordon claims that in one phone conversation during which he and Ken were puzzling over the missing evidence, they were startled to hear a massive eruption of electrical interference drowning out one another's voices. As the weeks went by, this electronic interference kept happening. Seemingly whenever Stan Gordon was on the phone talking with someone about this case. Ken told Stan that during these instances, Gordon's voice became so electric and robotic that it was difficult to make out anything that he was trying to say. Not too long after the evidence was went missing, Ken came home one afternoon to discover that all of the reports that he had collected from that summer had vanished from his file cabinet. Everything else was there, but the folder with like, all of this stuff was just gone. Dude, Someone or something had been tampering with their investigation.

[B]

Sounds like nova may have been under his death.

[A]

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[B]

She comes on right after.

[C]

It's the.

[B]

It's the afternoon block.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

These are all like the women that Stan Gordon has daydreamt About. I feel like Beverly Burns is an animal handler and like in Stan Gordon's fantasies, like she is with him on every case, you know what I mean? And he. Or. Or like he's sending it. He's sending the evidence to Beverly Burns's lab. And every time he goes to like pick up the evidence or get a report, they have like a little flirtation.

[B]

You know, the lingering scent of perfume on the floor.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. There is a strange smell to this hair, and I think it's love. So Beverly Burns and her son heard strange sounds outside of Beverly's mobile home, located in the Superior Mobile Home Court. They'd heard what sounded like high pitched cries of a baby.

[B]

There it is.

[A]

We get that all the time in these cases with Bigfoot. And shortly after that, the lights in the mobile home started flickering, and Beverly and her son looked out the window to see a dark, hairy husky. She described him as husky. He was like. This one was only like 5 or 6ft tall and husky figure. Pulling electrical lines away from her home. What? Beverly screamed, and her son went to grab his gun. But by the time he went outside, the creature was gone, leaving behind only some odd footprints, some scratch marks on the side of her trailer, and the stench of, you guessed it, sulfur in the air. On August 28, the same day that Stan Gordon had gone out to Beach Hill to investigate fresh three toed tracks left at Tanya Lake's house, Gordon received a call from Beverly, who seemed worried about an interaction that she just had. According to Beverly, a man showed up up at the trailer park asking about the Bigfoot encounter that she'd already reported to Stan. This man had brown hair, and she noted he wore no glasses and was dressed in a gray jumpsuit or work uniform with a gray belt with some kind of face on it. He identified himself as an investigator from Ohio. She claims that he flashed an ID badge that had his photo, and she could make out the words UFO and Ohio on the identification. But Beverly barely had a chance, chance to examine it before he started asking her questions about her husky Bigfoot encounter. He also told Beverly that he was there to pick up the hair samples that she'd collected for Stan Gordon and that he would deliver them to Stan on her behalf. Beverly sheepishly handed over the hair samples, then watch as the man walked over to where a local boy was taking Polaroid pictures of the tracks that the creature left behind. The strange man and the gray jumpsuit grabbed the Polaroid picture from the kid, wadded it up and stuffed it into his pocket. He Then took his foot and wiped away the tracks from the dirt, uttered the phrase, it has been destroyed, and promptly sped away in a brown station wagon. This guy gets weirdo of the year award for 1973.

[B]

Definitely. Yeah. He's really not being discreet about how utterly sus he is.

[A]

Right, right. Which makes you think that, like, okay, is this part of the performance that he's giving? Like, is that part of the act to, like.

[C]

Right.

[A]

Show up and act weird?

[C]

Well, I will say this. I mean, are we. Do we have a moment to discuss?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. Okay. Like, I wrote down, this particular case has all the big motifs and hallmarks of a UFO sighting. Right. Even though it was, like, mostly a Bigfoot situation. Like, the metal on metal sound is something people hear in conjunction with the ovals. Also, that's something people hear in the forest. And I will say I spent the night in the cave in Kentucky this summer and heard that noise. Whoa.

[A]

Now, why are you sleeping in a cave in Kentucky?

[C]

We'll talk about it after class. No, but I'm not even joking, and it messed me up. Also electrical interferences with the voice and stuff like that. The baby cries. John Keel talked about the baby. His two big, big things were car door slamming and the baby cries. Yeah, you hear that with all high strangers. And this. The guy who visited, if he had been wearing a black suit, it would be a classic Men in Black.

[A]

A hundred percent.

[B]

Totally.

[A]

I mean, and the. The other weird thing that he did was, I guess when he. He walked up to the boy who was taking. Because she. Stan Gordon said that, like, this case got around the mobile park, obviously people were excited and there were, like, locals coming around doing looky loos. And this is also something else that. That Keel talks about. And we're getting into. We really are getting into some Mothman prophecies, like, areas here, because I remember when Woody, Darren Burger had his indri Cold encounter, they said that, like, people would come by his house because UFOs were, like, showing up over his house. House.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So this kid. There were kids coming by. There were people coming by the mobile park. And this kid was taking a picture. And Beverly said that the guy walked up and. And he was like, what are you doing? He says, I've taken a picture. And he says, you've taken. He said something to the effect of, you have taken my picture. And then he took it away from him and crumpled it up.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[A]

You know, like, it belongs to me.

[B]

Right.

[C]

I want to say one other thing about mobile homes. This I cannot Remember who said this recently? It was in someone's book I read. But you guys know Wilhelm Strike was he had the Oregon generator, like you know, and believed in like the power of like sex, you know, capturing Oregon. Well, someone was saying that like the. Maybe the reason there's so many dramatic UFO sightings and Bigfoot signs in trailer parks. Because a trailer is this metal thing that captures sexual energy. Yes. Is an orgone generator. And I thought that idea was so fun.

[A]

They're just, they're just boxes teeming with Tanya Lake energy.

[C]

Yes, Steamy little orgo boxes.

[A]

It's also very Twin peaks Firewalk with me.

[C]

100% electricity. Oh my God, I'm singing. Ha.

[A]

I know. So whoever this man was, he was never seen again. Nor were the hair samples collected from the Superior mobile Home court. The other weird thing that happened that I don't have here written down specifically was there was another instance in August where I think it may have been Ken or Stan. And who's. Isn't there a. Another guy on the team called Kurtz or Klutz, what's his name? Thank you. Yeah, that. I think those guys had collected some plaster casts of these three toed prints. And as they were drawing drop drying they got a call that some activity was because again, I feel like the phone was just like they're. Their, their phones were ringing off the hook.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And I also don't know how people were getting phone calls out in the field before cell phones. But they were alerted to another case happening. So they're like, okay, we'll let these tracks dry and we'll go check out this other thing. We'll come back and get the, get the plaster casts. And when they returned, the cast had dried, but they had been. Someone came and broke them all, shattered them all. Could have been some rowdy teenagers, but also kind of of just another, you know, you gotta kind of take note of like evidence being destroyed in that. In that case as well.

[B]

Sure, sure.

[A]

So speaking of the Mothman, during late August, September and October, new cryptid sightings occurred. This were sightings that did not fall into the big hairy ape category necessarily. The first was a notable Bigfoot sighting that took place on Aug 24, 1973 at 11:30pm appro particularly active day this year. In fact, this happened at the same time the attack was taking place at Beverly's house in the mobile home court. A man in Claridge, Pennsylvania was pulling up to his his house when a five foot tall bulky creature with gray hair and white spots stepped into the headlight beams of his car and crossed the road. The driver flipped a and to get a better look, pull the ua.

[C]

Yeah, I, I love that. I mean, I'm just gonna imagine Stan wrote that.

[A]

No, he didn't. He's all me.

[C]

I know, I know, but I'm sure.

[A]

This is a problematic phrase now, but it's still fun to say.

[C]

Fine.

[A]

He turned around. He could see the creature standing next to a telephone pole for a few moments before walking off into the woods. And I made note of this one because it is a gray creature with white polka dots on it. The WC UFOSG investigated the area and found three toed tracks on the hillside along with some thick branches broken off some tall pine trees. And it's one of those things where they, they you know, jump up, try to pull these things down and they can't break them with their bare hands. So something big came through and broke off those branches. And then there was another case that involved the sighting of a half human, half dog like creature with a hump on its back that showed up on someone's front porch. Farmers in Lancaster county were calling in reports about a grayish bipedal creature with a white mane, curved horns, tiger like fangs and grizzly claws in their fields. In one encounter, a farmer claimed that the creature grabbed a scythe out of his hand. And another woman claimed to have a run in with the creature after it stole one of her geese. The creature, she chased it, she was chasing the creature and the creature retaliated by throwing the goose at her.

[C]

Sorry.

[A]

And then over in Dongle, there were reports of a man like creature with giant wings flying around the night skies.

[B]

Good lord.

[A]

A lot of people saw this weird horned white maned creature like this was, that was happening like over the course of a week in Lancaster.

[C]

The sheer diversity is amazing. And I will also add really quick, just solicitors know this is, is not far from Point Pleasant where this is happening. It's under two hours and also about an hour 20 minutes away from here in Ohio. A couple years later they were having in tons of three toed prints as well.

[A]

Really?

[C]

Yeah. So this is a thing this general area of the United States.

[A]

God, these three toed track things are just so this really does, all of this stuff really does sort of for me throw out the relic hominid. Yeah, I mean it. I don't think these things are the same thing as like the, the Bigfoot in Pacific Northwest. I don't.

[C]

They feel different.

[B]

Yeah, it's very like Dungeons and Dragons.

[A]

Creatures yeah, they're more interesting inside of.

[B]

A Black Sabbath lp.

[C]

Absolutely.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Yes. Yeah. Where's your head at so far, Riley? Hearing all this stuff?

[B]

I mean, I like these creatures. It's just, I mean, not to overuse the term, but it's so metal.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's metal, it's psychedelic. It's kind of hitting all the notes, you know?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

100. Now I have to take a minute to remind our listeners that reports of cryptids were coming in almost every single day, sometimes multiple times a day, during the months of August, September and October. And the thing that we should note is even though all of this research is compiled, it's not like all of these people in these rural communities knew about what was going on. This is pre Internet. The news had picked up some of these stories, but not everybody had television, not everybody got the paper. So there were often cases where Stan would note that the people calling in hadn't heard any of the other stories or wouldn't use the term Bigfoot. They would say hairy ape like creature. You know, they're not, they're not using the common cryptid vernacular to describe what they see, which I think adds some, you know, credibility to these, to these eyewitness reports because they don't all know that, that it's happening. You know, they're not piggybacking off on a trend necessarily.

[C]

Yeah. And just to reiterate what you said, I know from just experience looking into Newspapers.com about these cases, there's some. But it's, it's maybe like not even 1% of everything. Stan has this book.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So other than that, I'm not sure how people would find other than word of mouth or the newspaper. So just like, you know, reinforce what you said. Like, I don't think this was like necessarily like a hysteric hysteria thing.

[A]

No. And we only have these stories because Dan Gordon and the WC UFOSG kept notes. That's where all of this comes from. And they were writing down these cases as they were happening in real time. Most of these never saw the light of day. Except for, for the book Silent Invasion.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

The UFO activity which seems, which had seemed to have abated earlier that summer, saw a sudden return in activity. While this is a deep dive, there's just no way that we can get into every one of these accounts. And so I would suggest Go read the book. Go read Silent Invasion if you want a play. By play, I mean page after page, after this account happened, this happened, this happened, this happened. However, I do want to point listeners towards two encounters that possibly link the Bigfoot activity and the UFO sightings. Before we get into tonight's main course, the first is a report from September 1, 1973, in the small rural county of Penn Township. Ship Three women were driving down a country road when they spotted a large metallic rectangular craft that had landed in a field. As they slowed down the car to observe the object, a doorway suddenly appeared, they said, and spit out steps that descended from the opening of the doorway. The women watched in stunned bemusement as two tall hairy creatures ran out of the craft and darted into the nearby woods. Another event, and this is probably my favorite visual in this entire case, took place on September 27th after. What's that?

[C]

My birthday.

[A]

Hey, there you go.

[C]

It's your favorite. That makes me happy that.

[A]

Yeah, well, it's gonna be your favorite tooth. And September was a month chock full of UFO activity. Around 9:30 in the evening, two teenage girls were riding their bikes down a country road in Beaver County. Suddenly, a large white Bigfoot with brownish red eyes stepped into the road carrying a glowing white orb in its hand. The girls raced home where they told their father what had happened in the woods. And the father, one of the girls, allegedly went down into the woods to look for the creature because it was on his property property. And around that same time that he entered the woods, an elongated craft appeared, rose from the tree line and shot a beam of light into the woods like Travis Walton style.

[B]

Cool.

[A]

While interviewing the girls about the encounter, WC UFOSG member Bob Boyd said that the father denied going into the woods. He either had no memory of it it or he said it did not happen. But the locals that Boyd spoke to said that this man had been acting very strangely after the incident that night and afterwards became very insistent that the end of the world would be arriving in six months time. So he got strange. Now this wouldn't be the only doomsday prophecy received by an alleged eyewitness, as we will soon discuss right after this break. Eczema isn't always obvious, but it's real. And so is the relief from Ebglis. After an initial dosing phase, about 4 in 10 people taking Eglis achieved itralief and clear or almost clear skin at 16 weeks.

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[A]

Okay, everybody, so for this chapter, we're going to shake things up just a little. Instead of reading a scripted version of this story that I wrote, which I pretty much did back in BCC episode 120, I want to turn things over to our guest Steve and let him tell us in his own words what occurred on the night of October 25, 1973 in Fayette County. Steve, the floor is now yours.

[C]

All right, pull up a chair. Get something warm to drink. Listeners, we're going to tell a little story about high strangeness in Southwestern paper. So, like Michael Love beautifully said, it was October 25, 1973, and the police barracks just outside on the outskirts of Uniontown, Pennsylvania, which is kind of a small town, around 10,000, receives this phone call from another officer who is kind of new to Fayette County. And he sounded rattled. And he goes on to say, we saw this large red object over a farm field just outside of Uniontown. And so we need investigation gear, whichever. I'm not exactly sure what all that entailed.

[A]

A flashlight.

[C]

A flashlight. And maybe a half a pack of smokes, you know, a donut or two. But y' all need to get out Here because some weird stuff's happening and I'm not sure what to do.

[A]

Calling donuts investigation gear is like, great, well, we gotta swing by, get our investigation gear.

[C]

Make sure the jelly.

[A]

Coffee.

[C]

This calls for a jelly boys, but. So what happened was this police officer and about two other cars full of people were driving and I know exactly where this is. Cu. I've driven around there. Were driving on this kind of like two lane highway going past these kind of, you know, farms. And they see this red object hanging over the farm field. And so two of the boys, I can't remember their pseudonyms. I know one of the real names, which I'll. I don't know if I'll divulge it at the end, but whatever, whatever, go ahead.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

He'S not with us anymore. I just don't want to interrupt his family. Anyways, sure they see this object. So what they do, they go to get a closer look. These two, two boys.

[A]

And now. Are these the Palmer boys? Yeah, it was the Palmer farm.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Well, right. No, no, these are the pseudonyms. I'm checking the notes.

[C]

You're exactly right. Yeah, that, that's the Palmer boys. And so they go to get a closer look and they see this when they, you know, kind of cut into the chase, they see by the barn this red kind of spherical, almost dish shaped object that's just really bright red sitting there, there right by the barn. And they're like just transfixed on this thing. And then shortly later they kind of hear these baby screams. Here comes the baby cries again. And up on coming along their barn is this, or their farm field is this fence line. And they see these two hairy covered creatures with bright red eyes making like baby sounds. I think one was taller and one was a little bit shorter, right?

[A]

Yeah. And they're walking along the fence line and they said that as they watched the one, the taller one leading, the smaller one would walk up to a fence post, wait for the other one to catch up to that fence post and then walk to the next fence post. So they're walking in this sort of like, not relay pattern but just this strange thing where the other one's clearly waiting for the other one to catch up.

[C]

I'm getting mommy, I'm getting mommy vibes on this. Totally, you know, like, okay, little Pete, you know, go smell that fence post and then let's catch up. But as they're coming up, one of the boys has a. His rifle. He brought his rifle with him to go when they went to go investigate this and he loads some tracer rounds in there. And I'm not a gun guy, but I'm. I'm. Tracer rounds are just like rounds that you can see at night, Right. They're. They're not. There's no payload.

[B]

It's literally a tracer.

[C]

No, I. Okay.

[B]

I don't know if there's a payload.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

I thought tracer rounds just had the addition that you can. Could watch the trail. I'll look at it.

[C]

Right. Yeah, I. I don't know. I'm not. Don't know much about ammunition anyways. Fires it into it and it makes. And Michael, if I'm remembering correctly, the sound it makes sounds like it's hitting a puddle of water.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Which I love that detail. I think that's incredible. And they kind of make, you know, I think the whining, the kind of baby cries start ramping up. Then he loads just regular. Regular rounds into it. It takes another couple more pop shots. Again, it sounds like water. And then these kind of creatures eventually turn around and walk back down the fence line.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Then they look over at the craft that was sitting by the barn, and it's vanished. Right?

[A]

Yes. And the craft at this point looks like a glowing white dome sitting in the field. Like, it went. It goes from this red craft, hovering, and then it suddenly like morphs into a dome. Dome. And the creatures. They didn't see the creatures come out of this thing. They're looking at the white dome, and then they hear the sounds and look down to the right and they see them walking up the fence line here. So they are seen in the same location at the same time, but not necessarily emerging from this white dome that the craft has become. But Steve's 100. Correct. This thing doesn't take back off into the sky. It just literally vanishes inches into thin air.

[C]

Right, Right.

[B]

And confirming tracer rounds are live ammunition.

[C]

They are live immunization. Okay. Okay. I didn't know that. So I wonder why. Just shooting. I mean, you know, it was a shoot first type of decade, I think 70s were, but. So when this thing vanishes, it does something that I don't know if I've ever heard in another UFO case in my entire life. It leaves what I'm gonna call a giant puddle of light. So much for to fast forward just a tiny bit. Like when the police actually arrived, they said it was so bright, this, like, residue of light. You could read a newspaper by it.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And like, it is pitch black out. I mean, like, rural, like Pennsylvania. I mean, look dude, it is like, not, you know, you can't see your hand in front of your face. Like, I know the area they're talking about is no light pollution out there.

[A]

So, yeah, imagine it's not necessarily crop circle because the crops haven't been burned, but just imagine like a glowing white crop circle that is illuminated in the middle of this field, like very bright.

[C]

So eventually what does happen is that the police get there, they start investigating, and like I said, one of the first things they talk about that really freaked out the senior police officer was that was the light residue. Because they were like, what could that be? So I think right away the police officers definitely believe something weird was happening. Happening. Shortly thereafter, luckily, Stan Gordon and his team.

[A]

Yeah, we've got George Lutz, who's a former Air Force pilot. Fred Pitt, who's a photographer. David Smith, who's a physics teacher at the west. And the Westmoreland County Civil Defense radiation defense officer, Dennis Smeltzer. And who was also. Oh, who, who. That was David Smith. So he's a physics teacher and this like radiation defense officer, which means he's got like the Geiger counter. He's the one coming with the gadgets. He's the. I think David Smith is the Egon Spangler of the crew. And then you've got Dennis Smelter, who's a sociology major along with Stan. So he's got pretty much the whole team out there.

[C]

This is a crack team.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

Yeah. And because they want to come and measure radiation, they hear that there's a glowing circle out there. They're like, like, we got to find out if there's any. What the. What signals this thing is giving.

[B]

Grab your jelly donuts and your ger counters going in.

[A]

Police are just tossing donuts into the circle to see if they levitate, see.

[C]

If they'll eat a jelly man.

[A]

They. They come down there and they see them, like, floating through the circle, trying to catch the. Catch the. The donuts with their open mouths.

[C]

I mean, just from a cinematic aspect, you know, like, imagine this crack team of legends walking over the hill and like brown trench coats, probably like flicking a, you know, almost smoked cigarette out in the field. Just ready to get down to business.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And. And kind of. So what. What happens is the father of. Go ahead, Michael.

[A]

So there's the. There's the father is the Mr. Palmer senior, who I think is. He calls Steve Palmer senior. Then there's his son, Steve Palmer, who's like 2020. And then there are a couple neighborhood boys. And then there are also other just neighbors who are, who are scattered around this field houses, you know, pretty sporadically that are getting involved in seeing this stuff.

[C]

And if memory serves, I believe it was 15 witnesses saw this thing. Right? I mean like, so it was like I think three, a couple police officers, this family, other families. I think one of the cousins that was related to the Palmer.

[A]

Yep. And Steve Palmer, the 20 year, 20 year old guy with the truck is driving from house to house, house basically being like, do you see this? You see what's going on? Getting like getting everyone's reaction. And that's when he picks up like the two boys and they drive down to get a closer look and that's when they see the monsters and all that stuff.

[C]

Exactly, exactly. So when the police officers arrive and Stan and his crack team arrive, the boy who, who kind of was closest to the creatures and closest to the craft, Steve Jr. Started going a little weird. Like he started kind of going into convulsions. I mean like, honestly, it sounds like he was like possessed. You know, for all intents and purposes, it looked, felt and seemed like a possession. He was talking in these guttural noises. He was having these visions of an apocalypse.

[A]

He was growling, growling and acting feral. As they were walking around with him in the woods looking for these creatures. He just starts going, oh. And like shaking and convulsing. And they're like, what the going on with Steve? What's happening?

[C]

Right. And they said like it, it was so loud and so unhuman. Like they were really were like not sure how this was coming out of a human being. Like it was so like almost echoey. It sounded unhuman, you know, like not.

[B]

Just kind of like.

[C]

Right, yeah. Like it's like where the, the treble and the bass are like messed up and someone's like, you know, a sound maker, you know, like it just did sound so unnatural. So that was very disturbing. He kindly, as he comes out of his convulsions, he takes his. He has really thick glasses, like he was almost legally blind. Takes his glasses off, doesn't need them anymore. Claims he can see perfectly.

[A]

Yep. He's got superpowers now.

[C]

Right. And, and the, the really, it's important. The visions he saw were just like absolutely apocalyptic.

[A]

He said that there was a man in a dark robe who kind of looked like the grin reaper again. A sort of man in black figure appeared and started showing him all of these end times and apocalyptic visions and, and all while he's growling and people around him are seeing him freak the out he's like in the like, like astral plane getting these images beamed at him.

[C]

Yeah, right. I mean and this like apparently, you know, according to Stan and because there's some interviews with Stan where he has spoken about it more in more modern times and he's like this absolutely turned Steve Jr's life upside down like completely. And he had, he had all these kind of like almost like superpower effects as well. He would like be able to, to point to a blue jay that was like far away in a tree and say like that blue jay is going to come land on my shoulder. And it would. And other birds would like he could call to a bird and they would come land on him.

[A]

He would sit down with a friend on his porch and be like I don't want these powers. I don't want to be able to do this. Like it freaked him out. And I think they also had the typical poltergeist activity in the house. I think orbs were seen floating in and around the house. Like all this stuff that we often hear that are long lasting effects from people, people who've had a quote unquote alien abduction event.

[C]

That's exactly right. Yeah. He was basically inundated with this stuff. It never let the, the psychic residue after this event really one of the most, the highest levels I've ever heard of from an experiencer. Like he was pretty tortured. He. So I was able to find out who it was exactly in his name. I'm not going to. His name is George. I'm not going to give out his last name. If you really want to find out out you can find out through newspapers dot com. It's not very hard. But he died young. He died like at 42. He, you know, and a really good friend of mine, a colleague I'll say was about a year ago and a.

[A]

Colleague of ours too.

[C]

A colleague of yours too. I, I won't say his name in case I kind of want people bugging him. But he was reached out and he, he did some verification did find out that it was George's son. But George's son reached out to him him and said I heard the episode you did about my father. That was my dad. He did not talk about it much. It really disturbed him. It was not a great thing for him. And then when my friend tried to do more follow ups, oh, can I interview you and stuff, he just ghosted. He like left. It was never to be heard from again. But he was able to find it had the same last name as the father. And you know, if you do a little sleuthing, you can definitely trace things. And he was able to trace it. It really was his son. So his son's out there and verified his father's story. But basically wasn't like thinking it was cool. He's like, yeah, this destroyed my dad.

[A]

Yes. Dan Gordon and George Lutz stayed in touch with. With. With him until he died. And they said every few years they'd go out to Uniontown and talk to him. And he. His story really didn't change. He was pretty reticent to talk about it. He said on certain occasions he'd open up and share some ESP events that he had. But he was. He was pretty reluctant and kind of freaked out by the entire thing. And they had tapes they were playing when they. When they came to the farm on the 25th. The WCUFOSG had tape. They were running a tape recorder the whole time. So they had George or AKA Steve Palmer on. On tape making all of these sounds and. And going crazy.

[C]

Right? Yeah.

[B]

Exists anywhere. Can that.

[C]

It does.

[B]

Hear that.

[C]

So Stan has the audio tape still. Timothy Renner, who's like a wonderful investor.

[A]

Where the footprints end.

[C]

Yeah. Unbelievably great Pennsylvania investigator has reached out and begged Stan. He's like, can I just hear him? But Stan's like, I had them. No, I promised the family. And Stan's like an old school guy.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Fair enough. As integrity. So he will not give up the tapes. He really wouldn't give up any names. Names. But they exist. And Timothy Renner is like. It's like his white whale. He's been trying to.

[A]

He wants to hear it. I know that's such an important. Especially now that I think like major players have passed. Like I do hope that at one point we have that because that's like the real time documentation of this event. It would be. And they also said that in Stan and George and the team arrived after the. The UFO or the object had vanished. But they also said there was like this whirring sound that was coming out of that dome right while the baby crying Bigfoots were walking up along the fence. And George said or Stan said that when they got there it wasn't. The circle of light wasn't as bright, but it was. There was still a faint glow in that circle. Kind of like, you know, when the glow in the dark sticker starts to fade a little bit. I sort of imagine it like that where you. They still said that they could see the distinct circle where it had Been, but it dimmed over time until, until eventually just went away, you know.

[C]

And also Stan does mention in the book that the investigators, I think there was four or five of them. Every one of them, two especially were. Had this unnatural sense of dread and fear. Like they were just, they're. And they've been a lot of investigations. They've been doing this for years, years. But this one was like, they were all like horrified and they really weren't sure why.

[A]

And one of them I think got started feeling sick and had to go home early.

[C]

It said the smell, the odor was really bad.

[A]

And they did take radiation samples and didn't find anything completely unusual in the circle. I think it was just sort of like normal or just above normal radiation, you know, you know, levels. But yeah, we again, we have this sort of like, is it the infrasound thing where suddenly people are feeling scared and sick and off, you know, feeling off put. But those creatures, they, they could hear them walking around in the woods and they could still hear their cries, but they never tracked, they could never track them down. And partly the reason why they got distracted is because George started or. Yeah, Steve Palmer, AKA George started freaking out down.

[C]

Yeah. Losing it. Yeah. I mean it's one of those cases where there's 15 witnesses they were able to investigate a couple hours after it actually happened. It's really like to me, I'm like, I cannot think of many more cases that, that have had like first off such weird stuff. But they were investigated so shortly after with 15 separate, like 15 witnesses and, and I think that comprises of four different separate groups from four different vantage points. So this case really is it. I mean like I'd be hard pressed to find a better case like you know, ever. Like it's really one of the greatest ones. It's so weird. It's juicy. There was. They saw some of the evidence, the lights. Like how would a couple farmers create a light residue that no one could figure out where it was coming from? I think it's a possibility.

[B]

Wouldn't happen. Yeah, yeah, totally.

[A]

Yeah. And it's got the ufo, it's got the Bigfoot. Like it's, it's another like it's got. Everything is connected in this particular case. Now, Steve, when you went out to this area because you've, you've been to the field, correct?

[C]

I have, I have, I have.

[A]

What did you learn on that trip?

[C]

Well, you know, so I was able to kind of from the. There's on a newspapers dot com, they have a tiny little map in the original, like newspaper printing. And I was able to kind of take that map and lay it over Google earth and find. I was like, oh, those roads are a little different now, but it points to the same place. So I went out there. Sure enough, I was able to corroborate it with another investor. Like, yep, that is the. That's the barn. That's the field. And so I did go. What I noticed was it's. It's definitely a little more built up. There's some newer firms. So. But like if you can just picture would have been really in the middle of nowhere. Like, you know, there's a two lane highway that's very hilly going around, but it's a huge field. What the barn is still there. I could send you a little two minute video I made if you want.

[A]

To post it up on. We'll put it up on the Patreon.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Everybody.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. So they can just kind of check it out and like look behind me to see. You know, it's kind of fun to see that stuff. But like it was genuinely like, obviously, like I'm, I'm weird and I feel the magical place when I go to these, these areas. But like it was unbelievable. Like this is. It was a bucket list location to visit. If anyone ever wants to go, hit me up. I'll tell you exactly where to go.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

But it was really cool. I mean, one thing I did notice that everyone who was driving by me was like slowing down and looking at me like, why is this like big, this weird, this weird dude.

[B]

Like feeling the vibes.

[C]

Feeling the vibes.

[A]

Why is this man crying on the side of the road?

[C]

And I might have been. I was so moved, man. But like, you know, eventually I stood out there for like 10, 15 minutes and you know, took it in. And then, then I went and drove around some other sites. But like right around that area is there's so many. Like a lot of these reports we're talking about all happened like this area. Of all the areas like this general little five county in Fayette county, honestly might have been the epicenter of the ufo.

[A]

Bigfoots so wild. So did you ever talk to. Have you spoken to Stan Gordon?

[C]

I have. I've had quite a few email exchanges with him. I've been trying to get him on my show, but he only does. He doesn't do like zoom. He'll only do it over a landline.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

He's old school, so I'm like, I don't. I need to. I need to get it done, but he's great with that. Can you. Thank you. Yeah, I'll get interview. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. He is so nice and so forthright. He will not answer questions about like, names. He's just an old school guy with a lot of integrity, which I totally respect. But he doesn't change his story. He doesn't add too much to the stories. But I've just corroborated a couple things that he wrote about and he says it exactly like he wrote it.

[A]

Well, I was gonna say, like, I don't know how much he could add to the stories other than maybe personal opinion because there's so many small details in Silent Invasion that he gets into. I mean, like again, this deep dive is really as much as it is a two parter and, and then some. We'll have some spillover on the other side this week. Like, there's a lot there. There's so much there. Sorry, I was just gonna say, like, I think this book and this event is as seminal and as important as something like the Mothman prophecies to fans of high strangeness.

[C]

Agreed, Agreed. And honestly, if you were to take the two cases, put them side by side, there's way more reports in sale novation.

[A]

I mean, like, way, way more also. It's not. We were talking about this, Steve, the other day, but it's also like not littered with John Keel's like pulp descriptions of women's bodies. You know what I mean?

[C]

Wearing a dress cut too short, you.

[A]

Know, like, it's, it's, it's. I feel like this book is going to age a lot better, you know, because it's not written to be. You know, when John Keel was writing, they had to throw in a little bit of that sensationalism in it to get the books distributed and sold so they could, they could put them right next to all the pulp, pulp novel and dime store, you know, dime books.

[C]

Right.

[A]

But this is just a very straightforward day by day, field report by field report with. It's very easy to read. It's very easy to relate to. It's very easy to visualize all these cases. It's really, really fun.

[C]

Yeah. And if you, you can take this book, almost like if you're like a, you know, legend tripper and love going to like, places where this stuff happens. Take this book. You can, honestly, with most of these cases, you can do a little Internet work and find out the general area of where they happened and you can go visit a lot. I mean, like, for me that's like a dream vacation. You know, take a couple and get a nice Airbnb. You know, maybe you make like a big lasagna right away so you have something to eat off with, you know.

[A]

Got to make your road lasagna.

[C]

Exactly. But you know, it really is, I think this book is in terms of a two year period. I mean it's, there's more than the Mothman prophecies. Not to mention a lot of what Keel was getting was secondhand. And through Mary Hire, Stan almost investigated all of these a lot. Most of the time boots on the.

[A]

Ground himself minutes or hours after they happen.

[C]

That's exactly because he lived in this area and he would go out at three in the morning like so. I, I think honestly it's. This is the most underrated high strange book book that has ever been written. I think. I hope one day this is as popular as the Mothman because it absolutely should be.

[A]

It should. I agree. Now, while the strange night of October 25th and thank you for that Steve, is by all consideration the best story to come out of the Pennsylvania Bigfoot UFO invasion case of 1973. The story did not end there for another 414 months. UFOs and hairy hominids were spotted in the Westmoreland county area until the flap finally came to a quiet end on December 30, 1974 when a yellow crescent shaped UFO flew over the Mount Lebanon area of Pittsburgh before taking off into the dark skies. Now there wasn't as much of a volume of sightings across 1974, but they were still happening. While the increase in correlation of UFO and Bigfoot sightings in Pennsylvania during this 1973 period do not prove that Bigfoot is an alien or even a UFO occupant. It does suggest that perhaps these phenomena are linked in ways that we could never imagine and have not seen since. When we come back back, I'm gonna ask Riley and Steve what the hell was that streaming September 4th on Peacock we sell toilet tissue and local newspapers.

[C]

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[A]

All right, boys. What the hell was that? What do you think was happening with this Bigfoot UFO invasion? Riley, what do you think now that you've heard all of this?

[B]

I mean, for starters, I can't believe that we've done this show this long and I was this, like, ignorant to this whole story.

[A]

It's a big one. That even I had not, I had not read this book until we, we did this deep dive and this has been on my list.

[C]

And even, even the, you know, the Palmer story, while it's definitely gotten more known, it is not mainstream at all. Like, it is still like, like, you know, it's like Matador. So for the indie rock world, I would say it's like Matador where it's. It's known.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

It's not, it's not super deep cut, but like, you know, a lot of.

[B]

Good stuff on there.

[C]

There's a lot of good stuff. It's like the Yola tango of Bigfoot.

[A]

I think when we. When I did the. That story as an individual story of high strangeness back in episode 127, I think I also found the case in the, the like UFO magazine it was printed in at the time. Whoa. And found scanned copies and got the story from that. Because outside of Silent invasion and the zines printed at the time, I can't remember if it was like saucer review. It was something like that. I'd have to go back and check. This story isn't in a lot of books. Like, the source is Stan. The source is this. The source is the source. So that's one of the reasons too. It is an indie cut. You know, they've never made a. There's no movie based on this. There's no. I think the other thing that you can find where this comes up is in the small town monsters documentary Invasion on Chestnut Ridge, which we watched in the early days of movie club. So it's. It's a pretty like homemade documentary, but it's, it's good and it's got this story in it. So.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah. And I think, I think you're right. I think that probably did more to propel the story, but still, like we're saying, like, it's like, I bet most of the listeners, like, wait, what?

[A]

Yeah, this isn't like a. A case that. That Steven Spielberg is, like, based a movie on.

[C]

Should be.

[A]

Should be. So, Riley, what do you. What do you think this is?

[B]

I mean, especially that last one, too, where there's like an audio tape and there's so many witnesses and there's, you know, physical evidence and there's, you know, this person having this sort of. Of psychic event, and then there's the lasting effects that are corroborated by a family member. It's just like, it's. It's really compelling. And I mean, my mind goes two places of, like, this is a legitimately paranormal event, or this is some sort of, like, MK Ultra government mind test thing. But this one doesn't even really feel like that to me. It feels. This does feel, like, decidedly paranormal. And I don't. I don't know what to make of it. I don't know what. What the hell that that was.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's also really interesting that these, like, cryptid creatures are not really in any of the sort of traditional categories. There's like, sort of big footy, sort of dog, Manny, like, but they're all really unique.

[A]

They're like Scooby Doo villains. They're like Scooby Doo monsters in this one. Really Barbera creatures.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And the fact that this is all happening before mass media before, and they're happening in sort of like, individual accounts. It's not like this one big thing that a bunch of people saw, and you go like, oh, well, it's a, you know, kind of mass hysteria. This, that or the other. It's like these are like a bunch of individual things happening all over this region, like, repeatedly over and over, with very little connection between the events. It's. I don't know know, it's wild. And then having. I mean, having Stan Gordon just, like, there in the moment, like, really collecting this stuff right as it's happening, is so unique.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

This is, like. This is one of my favorite things we've covered on the show.

[A]

I'm right there with you.

[C]

Absolutely.

[A]

Steve. I. I think you agree with me. I mean, we basically already said it. I think this is the best high strangeness case of all time.

[C]

I. I really do. Yeah. I mean, it's like, you know, there may be ones I like a little more for personal, just because the way something looked or felt, but, like, this, I just has it All. Yeah, it really does. And like it has the form, like has all the motifs of that Keel. Talk about baby cries, you know, like.

[A]

The metal on metal sound. That's the other thing in the Beverly Blake case that. Oh, actually this is something that we're going to get into over on the other side because I have some cases from 1974 that we didn't have time to fit into this. But I'll, I'll tease one where there was an eyewitness who talked about he saw like four or five of these creatures walking through the woods after an immediate event and, and noted the way that another eyewitness noted in last week's episode that they walked very awkwardly with. Their arms were really long, they hung at their sides, but their legs were kind of stiff. And there is this sort of like, were these things mechanical? Were these maybe robots? Because they kept talking about the metal on metal sounds and how awkward sometime times these things would move around 100%.

[C]

And the thing that's so weird, it's like we were seeing Bigfoot or a Bigfoot like creature in the proximity of technology, like hoarding holding. Like I think I mentioned the last show where it's holding the black box with the red, the red lights and the orb, the orb of light. So these, these seem so supernatural. It's like either these flesh and blood creatures, like every once in a while I get to play with some like, you know, technological toys that we don't know about, but it just, they do not feel flesh and blood. And like, I remember, you know, for a long time the reason why Stan's book and his work was never like nationally known and not taken seriously is because he was reporting these things as they were happening. And people did not like that.

[A]

Yeah, they didn't like how weird they were.

[C]

The UFO people hated it. The Bigfoot people hated it. The paranormal people hated it. It was roundly disliked because they're like, hey, we're trying to make science like, you know, take us seriously. And you go with these Bigfoot UFO cases like, so they thought he was doing a disservice to the field. That has totally changed now where I think a lot of people and more and more so in the future would be like, dude, Stan Gordon was like one of the O.G.

[A]

I think it, it takes like our generation of nerds to be like, this stuff is cool. Cuz like, this again is the stuff that. This has got the juice. This is, this is the stuff that I love. I love a white Bigfoot carrying an orb as like A cigar shaped UFO is like, like possibly beaming people up into a ship. Like this is what the. Visually, this is what I love as Riley described. And like it's just like it's got the juice, it's got the weirdness, the dreamlike high strangeness that I love so much.

[C]

Yeah. And not to mention I didn't watch this show because it's a little bit before my time, but there's a show called the $6,000,000 man and One of the famous episodes, Steve Austin, Lee Majors fights a ufo. Bigfoot.

[A]

Yeah. Who's a robot.

[C]

And he was a robot. And I know that came out after this because that was probably more late 70s.

[A]

Yeah. I think that was 78 or 77.

[C]

But you almost wondered like, did they hear about Stan Gordon's case? Because like, you know.

[A]

Well, it's crazy too how quickly. I mean this is 73. This isn't that long after the Patterson Gimlin film.

[C]

Right.

[A]

This is within five years of that. And it's so crazy how like the, the, the, the Bigfoot ephemera of the Pacific Northwest in Northern California is so different from this story. And you would think that if it was some sort of like make them up or some sort of MK Ultra thing or somebody's trying to play a hoax on people that they'd want to make it, they try to make it look more like Patty and the Pacific Northwest activity. And this is just its own genre. It's its own genre.

[C]

It is. And it falls along the line where the 60s and 70s were just the craziest time for UFOs and Bigfoot and you know, where it was like the very, the variance and what people were seeing in terms of like the UFO occupants. It was all over the map. It was like almost never the same thing. You know, like sometimes they would sound similar but like we were seeing hundreds of different manifestations. And I, I also like this. Now I'm gonna sound like a crazy person, but like I always think it's important now with us till now.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

But I do think it is always important to take into consideration happening culturally in America. At the time we were just getting out of the Vietnam War. The Cold War was now getting extra scary because there was nuke threat that was kind of new. There was the oil crisis, there was the grain crisis where farm all bunch of farmers were in massive economic trouble.

[A]

There was a huge trucker strike happening around this time too. Like the working class was taking, taking a huge hit, you know.

[C]

Absolutely.

[A]

Kind of sounds like what we're going through now a bit.

[C]

It, it does. And like you and then in the Midwest these exact years was like massive cattle mutilation situation. Nebraska, Colorado, Montana. I mean it was like happening so.

[A]

Much and I left a bit. That's one thing that I kind of left out of this is there were so many reports. Not necessarily like the in exenuated. Help me out here everybody.

[C]

I can't fit.

[A]

I can't have the worst time with that word. Like stripped down to the bone, laser style cattle mutilations. But a lot of pets and chickens and other livestock were getting spooked or attacked or killed or stolen during this period too. Like the woman who got a goose thrown at her head. Right.

[C]

And another thing to take into consideration too is that like this area has a such a long history of this weird stuff. And I'm talking about going back into the eight like 18, mid-1800s, like Timothy Renner has like so many cases going, you know, they just called it a different thing. They said the hair covered wild man. Or they say that there's, there was you know, green fireballs in the sky, you know. But like this weirdness is not new and like it's still happening today. There is a very healthy the amount of Bigfoot sightings and UFO sightings to this day in this area. So it remains to be weird.

[A]

I want them to stay weird and get weirder. I don't want any more normal Bigfoot. I mean I don't think there's such a thing as a normal Bigfoot sighting. But come on, give me a white mane and some horns, please. Some glowing green eyes, bear claws, tiger teeth.

[C]

Yep, yep.

[A]

Well, thank you, Steve. There you go, riley. The Bigfoot UFO invasion of Pennsylvania from 1973. Before we head over to Collector's Corner, we want to give a big thanks to Steve and a big thanks to our listeners, you guys and gals and non binary friends at home, especially you club scouts who recently joined us over on bcc. The other side. Riley, get ready. It's time for some Patreon shout outs.

[B]

Let's do it.

[A]

Let's begin with a correction from last week. Now this is tough because it's a strange handle and no judge judgments, but Carrick's longest. Thank you very much.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

Called you Carrie longest last week. Nick Valenzuela.

[B]

Thanks, Nick.

[A]

Jim Barnes, Cosmeteer.

[B]

Oh hey Jim. What's up? Welcome.

[A]

Yeah. Joseph Hilario Cosmetier.

[B]

Hey Joseph. Welcome.

[A]

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[B]

Zach. I know, Zach too. Hey, what's up man? Welcome.

[A]

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[B]

Oh, hey, Tamsin. Welcome to the ranks.

[A]

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[B]

That's right.

[A]

So hang out with us over there. We're having a blast. Steve, it's collector's corner time. What are you into? We had you last week, but what are you into right now? What are you watching? What are you doing? What's. What's taking up your. Your hobby time right now?

[C]

Oh, well, I'll tell you what. I have. I have. I've been a very busy person the last two weeks. So very boring. But like, I did give myself a little respit yesterday and I played cyberpunk.

[A]

Oh, yeah, they finally fixed it.

[C]

It is so fun. Oh, my God. I played for like nine hours straight, which is. Which is ridiculous. And I was like, oh, my God. My whole day in the. But it was exhilarating.

[A]

What faction are you? Is your character. Are you like one of the, like, Richie Modded guys? Are you one of the, like, punk. Punk guys?

[C]

No, I'm like a desert dweller.

[A]

Yeah, there you go. Okay.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. You're like Raider, I think.

[A]

Yeah. Mad Max.

[C]

A Mad Max type.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I love it. I love it. That segues perfectly into me. I'm playing Indiana Jones and the great circle. I'm finally like, waist deep into that game. It is. Is so fun. The voice performance by. Oh, gosh, I'm blanking on the guy's name. He's very famous. Who does the voice of indie sl Harrison Ford. Give that man all of the young Harrison Ford video game jobs from now on. He needs to be cast as Han Solo. He needs to be cast as Indiana Jones. He does a great job.

[C]

Regarding Henry, the video game.

[A]

Yeah, regarding Henry, the video game. Mosquito coast video game. Let's do it. The. The. The American Graffiti spin off where we just follow his character down, you know, the. The. The drag racing strips. It's such a fun game. It's a perfect mix of explore and puzzle making in action. And you really do get. It really captures the feel of like Indiana Jones sneaking around, you know, some fascist camp. And then let me tell you something, there's nothing more satisfying right now than being able to sneak up behind a fascist and bash them over the head with a, with a metal shovel and then hide their bodies in a place where the other fascists won't find them. Like I'm sneaking around these excavations and the characters are literally just called fascists. Like when the closed captions are happening, it is so fucking satisfying. And so it's a perfect amount of escape and then anger, intention, release right now. So I highly, if you have an Xbox, I highly, highly fucking recommend Indiana Jones and the Great Circle. Meanwhile. Yeah, meanwhile, come over to my ebay shop, please. I got some new toys and collectibles up there. I have very few sets of lucid remaining. Thank you to the club scouts who've been picking those up. As of this recording, I only have about four left. So I don't know if they'll be around anymore. But I still have copies of Adventure Van that you can order. I'll sign those personally. Nice. Give you a little doodle and send those along to you. So come on by. I'll put a link in the show notes to this episode. Riley, what do you got?

[B]

Well, on Valentine's Day, Caitlyn and I went to Amoeba and we decided we would add to our physical media collection. As for our romantic day and I found used for an amazing price the Ingmar Bergman box set from Criterion.

[A]

Oh hell yeah.

[B]

Ingmar Bergman is like one of the great Swedish directors. I had really only seen two, two of his things, one of which is the Seventh Seal, which is visually one of my favorite things ever made ever. It's incredible. And then also Fanny and Alexander was his beautiful movie. Right. The 80s sort of Christmas special which I, I, I'd recently seen in one go in a theater. It was like a six hour screening or something.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

It just like was so incredible. And so now I now have that on Blu ray and it's just, it's such a beautiful box and it comes with this amazing book and I just.

[A]

Physical media, baby, bring it. Bringing it back hard.

[B]

I've, I've upgraded, you can see right there if you can. I've upgraded my projector to a 4K projector.

[A]

Hell yeah.

[B]

It is like a movie theater in my house. Really intentionally consuming media right now and, and I am just loving it.

[A]

I love it. Good.

[C]

That's great.

[A]

I love it. That's so cool, Riley. All right, thanks everybody. Thank you Steve for joining us on this adventure. We're going to cross over to the other side to discuss some encounter stories from this series that we could not fit into these two episodes. Steve, would you like to cross over with us? Would you like to come join us?

[C]

Could I?

[A]

We'd love it if you did. Oh, all right. Well, if you're a member of the Patreon, this deep dive is not over for you yet. If we don't see you there on Friday, we'll see you back here next week. For part or no. For no more parts. For an all new episode.

[B]

No more parts?

[A]

No more parts.

[C]

That's all you get.

[A]

We're gonna have something new for you next week. Until then, good night and go get regressed.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

Bigfoot Collectors Club is produced and engineered by Riley Bray and executive produced by Riley bray and Michael McMillan. Our theme song Come Alone is by sun yeah. Courtesy of Lotus Pool Records. Follow Sun Eaters on Spotify for three bonus episodes every month and ad free episodes. Check out BCC the Other side at patreon.com bigfootcollectorsclub.

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