"The Val Johnson UFO Incident"

Summary

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Bigfoot Collectors Club — “The Val Johnson UFO Incident”

Date: December 17, 2025
Hosts: Michael McMillian & Riley Bray
Episode Type: Declassified from premium “The Other Side” feed
Theme: A deep dive into the 1979 Val Johnson UFO incident—an official police encounter with a UFO that left physical evidence—and a review of recent Bigfoot sightings. Expect the show’s trademark blend of light-hearted camaraderie and genuine fascination with “high strangeness.”

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Episode Overview

The episode features hosts Michael McMillian and Riley Bray exploring the legendary Val Johnson UFO incident, a landmark 1979 case where a deputy’s patrol car was physically damaged following a bizarre encounter with a mysterious light. Before going in-depth on the UFO story, the pair catch up, review recent Bigfoot sightings, riff on Discord antics, and discuss the joys and struggles of podcast production.

Michael’s Note: The episode was unlocked early due to personal circumstances, as Michael shares (01:06) that his father recently passed away, explaining why new content is briefly on hold. He expresses gratitude to fans for their support and looks forward to new projects in 2026.

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Key Discussion Segments & Insights

Clubhouse Catch-up & Discord Shenanigans

[05:24–11:19]

• Michael and Riley settle in, bantering about hot weather, Spindrift beverages, and the many “corners” of their Discord community (“If this was a room, it would have so many corners.” – Michael, 08:49).
• They riff on Discord channel names, listener suggestions, and BCC in-jokes (e.g., the mysterious “apple crust” character).

Listener Feedback, Podcast Process & Roadtrips

[12:39–18:08]

• The pair read fan comments, especially praise for their Ghost Quest YouTube special.
• Riley and Michael express joy at making video content and tease more on-location adventures.
• Briefly joke about “cheese dreams” (nightmares after eating cheese), food quirks, and perfect bites.

Where in the World is Bigfoot?

[22:50–36:32]

• Segment reviewing a recent Missouri trail camera sighting allegedly capturing Bigfoot (complete with a scale photo).
  • Description: “I loaded up the live view... the creature was already gone.” (Michael reading the witness, 24:18)
  • The figure is several feet taller than a 6ft human; the area—Poplar Bluff, MO—is rich in local Bigfoot lore.
• Both hosts examine possible natural explanations vs. hoax, with Riley expressing skepticism at a different, dubious ‘footprint’ video.
• Michael notes, “The first story is pretty awesome. The photo, I’m compelled by. I like the guy’s telling—he seems earnest and honest.” (33:54)
• They examine shadows and reflections in the trail cam photo, debating possible flaws and calling for “image forensics.”
  • “Let’s not look at it too much longer and spoil the fun.” – Michael, 36:27

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Main Feature: The Val Johnson UFO Incident

Case Introduction & Background

[37:35–40:15]

• In August 1979 in rural Marshall County, Minnesota, Deputy Val Johnson observed a brilliant light 3–4 feet off the ground. As he approached, the light accelerated toward his car, entered through the windshield, and struck him “like a 200-pound pillow.”
  • “[He] noticed very bright brilliant light, 8 to 12 inches in diameter, 3 to 4ft off the ground. The edges were very defined.” – Michael, paraphrasing police interview (39:05)
  • “This object flew through the windshield, hitting Johnson in the chest like a 200 pound pillow.” – Michael, 40:15

The Encounter & Physical Evidence

[40:15–45:28]

• Johnson was knocked unconscious. He awoke 30 minutes later with the following:
  • Shattered windshield (intact, but with a focused hole/damage)
  • Both car antennas bent—one 90°, one sharply back—consistent with a “high velocity air blast”
  • One headlight (aligned with impact) blown out, dent in roof
  • Physical injuries: burning in eyes (“as if from welding”), broken teeth at the gum line
  • Both his watch and car clock 14 minutes behind (43:39)
    • “Matching… 14 minutes behind. So there’s 14 minutes of missing time…” – Michael, 43:53
    • Riley: “I just got the chills on my arms.” (43:55)
• Forensic experts from Honeywell and Ford found the car damage “puzzling”—cracks went inward and outward “almost simultaneously,” all damage fell in a one-foot-wide line.

Sheriff’s Department & Later Life

[47:41–52:49]

• The car was preserved and can be viewed today in a Minnesota museum.
• Sheriff Dennis Brecky, Johnson’s boss, strongly supported his deputy’s story and insisted on preserving the evidence.
• Johnson gained national fame (appearing on Good Morning America and That’s Incredible) but expressed discomfort with his notoriety and receded from public life.
  • “I saw a ball of light, I drove toward it, and suddenly it was in the car with me. It’s unexplainable and will remain so. I’m happy with my mental stability.” – Val Johnson, 2015 interview (50:23, as read by Michael)
  • Michael: “He basically got another job… Then he got fired… and this kind of took a toll on him. It kind of knocked his career trajectory off course, for sure.” (52:19)
• Ufologist Jerome Clark championed the legitimacy of the case.

Skeptical Theories & Unresolved Mysteries

[46:21–47:02, 47:02–47:30]

• Riley wonders if “ball lightning” could explain the incident, but both agree the timeline and “missing time” don’t fit.
• The missing time, physical evidence, and Johnson’s lack of interest in ufology uniquely distinguish this case.
  • “I think Brecky realized this was something special.” – Michael (48:49)
  • “That’s my favorite witness—the person who’s like ‘oh, boy…’” – Riley (51:39)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Discord zaniness:

  • “If this was a room, it would have so many corners.” – Michael (08:49)

• On Bigfoot trail cam photo:

  • “The first story is pretty awesome. The photo—I’m compelled by. I like the guy’s telling of it. He seems earnest and honest, and I buy it.” – Michael (33:54)

• On the Val Johnson incident:

  • “The windshield also broke in a very strange way… cracks caused by unknown inward and outward facing forces acting almost simultaneously.” – Michael (44:49)
  • “All the damage to the car… was within a straight line, only one foot wide.” – Michael (45:06)
  • “Matching… 14 minutes behind. So there’s 14 minutes of missing time on the car clock and on his wristwatch.” – Michael (43:53)
  • “I saw a ball of light, I drove toward it, and suddenly it was in the car with me. It’s unexplainable and will remain so. I’m happy with my mental stability.” – Val Johnson, via Michael (50:23)

• On preserving the car:

  • “I love that they preserved the car. That’s so cool.” – Riley (55:05)

• Band joke:

  • “Their sound will hit you in the chest like a 200-pound pillow… And they have a song called ‘Pillow Fight.’” – Michael, on the fictional Val Johnson UFO Incident band (40:20)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Personal update / Declassified intro: 01:06–05:24
• Discord banter & naming Riley: 07:24–09:29
• Listener feedback: 12:39–18:13
• Bigfoot trailcam segment: 22:52–36:32
• Val Johnson UFO Incident main story: 37:35–55:05

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Tone & Style

The episode mixes comedy, nostalgia, and sincere curiosity about paranormal mysteries. Michael and Riley frequently riff, employ improvisational humor, and gently poke fun at both themselves and supernatural phenomena, while also expressing genuine wonder at the unknown.

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Summary

This “declassified” episode of Bigfoot Collectors Club offers a charming, in-depth look at the Val Johnson UFO Case—a rare instance where a law enforcement encounter left striking physical evidence. Michael and Riley’s discussions traverse trailcam Bigfoot mystery, Discord community musings, logistical podcast challenges, and the enduring allure of classic cases of “high strangeness,” all while fostering a sense of playful camaraderie with their “Club Scout” audience. The Val Johnson story serves as a springboard for themes of skepticism, belief, and the lasting human impact of brushes with the unexplained.

Transcript

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[Michael McMillan]

Hello and welcome to another declassified episode of Bigfoot Collectors Club. I'm your lone wolf host Michael McMillan. Coming at you on another Wednesday, Ultra terrestrial producer Riley Bray is surfing those cosmic waves surprise saying, Hang 10 everybody. He'll see you soon. What is declassified? About Declassified December, you might be asking. Well, a declassified episode is an episode that we've unlocked from BCC the Other side, which is our bonus episode channel over at BCC Clubhouse at our Premium Hangout Spot, bcc.super cast.com if you like this episode, you can get three bonus episodes every month, including this month. There's new episodes dropping over there right now. When you join the official Club Scout membership, you can upgrade to become a cosmeteer where you'll get all of that plus ad free episodes, including now Monday. We are dropping classic ad free episodes tracing all the way back to episode zero and moving forward. And what else do you get? Oh yeah, original music from Riley, some soundtracks you've heard on the show, and then stuff that sometimes he just whips up because he loves you all. So all of that's waiting for [e-mail] now this episode is a very fun episode. We get into some shenanigans about a very fun UFO case involving a very cool car. And that's about all I'm gonna say about that. If you like watching episodes and not just listening to them, or if you like listening and then watching or watching, then listening, however you like to shake it up. Don't forget to follow us. Over at YouTube we have Bigfoot Collectors Club channel over there. We have some exclusive episodes and video that you can't find anywhere else. We have some awesome fun shorts over there and we will also have this episode so you can find that over on YouTube or just click the link in the show notes to this episode. Okay, so this will conclude declassified December. Next week, we're gonna re release a holiday classic. And the week after that, we're gonna have something special for you. You might be wondering, when are new episodes gonna come back? Well, you know what? I can't tell you exactly, but it will be sooner rather than later. So just sit tight. On a serious note, just to update everybody and let you all know what's been going on over here. Unfortunately, in early December, my father passed away. So Riley and I had been busy getting a head start on 2026, and then this happened, which obviously threw a bit of a monkey wrench into our production schedule. We're still working on stuff, but yeah, just taking some personal time. Time to catch my breath a little bit. And then we'll be back on track in early 2026 with new episodes here on the main feed. So I thank everybody for their patience, for your patience. And I want to thank everybody who's already reached out to me over Instagram or the Discord with condolences. I appreciating it. I appreciate it, and I am appreciating it. As many of you know, I lost my mother last year, and now I've lost my father this year. So it's been an emotional roller coaster, to say the least. But I'm doing okay. My family's doing okay. But, yeah, I just wanted to share that, let everybody know what's going on, and that once again, production schedule might be a little wonky this time of year. So I do apologize. But we love you. We love that you're here. We are so excited to bring you guys what we got cooking for 2026. So enjoy the Val Johnson UFO incident. Welcome to Bigfoot Collectors Club. The other side. I can't hear it.

[Riley Bray]

You don't hear it? Good. I'm leaving it on.

[Michael McMillan]

Leave it on.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah. Yeah, it's hot.

[Michael McMillan]

It's hot. We gotta have. We're in the clubhouse. We gotta have a fan going.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah. I've been drinking this new flavor of Spindrift island punch. Oh, I got it in a glass here with some ice, I gotta say. Very nice.

[Michael McMillan]

What is. What. What is the flavor profile?

[Riley Bray]

It is your classic pog passion fruit orange guava. You know that's where pog comes from, right? Pogs.

[Michael McMillan]

I. When you said pog, I thought of something else.

[Riley Bray]

Not pogs. The from the 90s polymers orgy guy.

[Michael McMillan]

Pogs. Wait, no, never mind.

[Riley Bray]

What did you think of.

[Michael McMillan]

Never mind. If you. It's a real. If you know, you know.

[Riley Bray]

Oh, P, A, W, G. Yes. Different pog.

[Michael McMillan]

Different pog.

[Riley Bray]

Don't Google that.

[Michael McMillan]

Don't Google it. Especially if you're at work. Don't Google. Yeah, Wait. Pomegranate orange.

[Riley Bray]

Guava.

[Michael McMillan]

Guava, Yum.

[Riley Bray]

It's good. It's refreshing. I'm literally. I'm schmitzing, you guys. It's well over 90 degrees in my house right now.

[Michael McMillan]

We promise. This is not an endorsement. This is not a sponsorship. This is an endorsement. Yum. Yeah. No, no. Money was. You know, there were so many opportunities over the years.

[Riley Bray]

I know.

[Michael McMillan]

For Spin Drift to actually jump in and be a. Be a sponsor for the show.

[Riley Bray]

I don't think they wanted to be aligned with a acid fueled western band. They were like, we're good. We're going to stick with Trader Joe.

[Michael McMillan]

That's their mistake.

[Riley Bray]

That's what I mean. But damn it, if it isn't a good. A good drink.

[Michael McMillan]

It is a good drink. All right, everybody, welcome to bcc. The other side, the parallel dimension of Bigfoot Collectors Club. I'm your host, Michael McMillan. Oh, hold that thought, everybody, because somebody forgot to do his homework. I'm gonna go. You know what? I'm gonna go straight to the Discord.

[Riley Bray]

All right, let's do it.

[Michael McMillan]

And I am gonna go straight to the list.

[Riley Bray]

Oh, look at this. This is why we have the Discord people. Yes.

[Michael McMillan]

Because I can just go to centralized. Yeah. First of all, let me just as I'm doing this, because I know a lot of you are not on the Discord. Get on the Discord. You can find the invite the link very easily on either Patreon or Supercast. Here are the media channels. We have art corner, Book club, Collector's Corner, convention corner, dd, Flower corner, food corner, gaming corner, Meme corner, movie club, music corner, Pet corner, Podcasting corner, tv, TV club, Tech corner, Vibe Coding corner.

[Riley Bray]

One of my favorite corners.

[Michael McMillan]

And then under Krypton's and Paranormal, we have Aliens, Bigfoot High Strangeness, Mothman Personal paranormal history, Paranormal, Paranormal road trips, Weird science, y'. All. This is like. Oh, yeah. And then we have General BCC News Club, Scout Secret Stash, Episode discussions, Expedition Bigfoot, Suggestion box events and meetups. Give Riley a name.

[Riley Bray]

There it is.

[Michael McMillan]

And then things that scare Michael. So many conversations taking place. Yeah.

[Riley Bray]

If this was a room, it would have so many corners.

[Michael McMillan]

So many corners. Yeah.

[Riley Bray]

How many corners, how many walls are in this vcc?

[Michael McMillan]

This is like a giant multi it's like. Are you familiar with the Mattel logo?

[Riley Bray]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

It's just like a circle with a bunch of saw to saw teeth around.

[Riley Bray]

That's the BCC clubhouse.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah, we're shaped like. The clubhouse is shaped like the Mattel logo. All right, let's go to give Riley a name. And now I. I will have to say you guys are getting off topic here and starting conversations and we gotta keep.

[Riley Bray]

This is why we have 45 quarters.

[Michael McMillan]

Yes. How about this? From Derek Holtraws, the sonic sequoia, the sower of sacred sound seeds.

[Riley Bray]

Riley Bray.

[Michael McMillan]

That's right.

[Riley Bray]

I like that. That sounds like some wizard. Wizard stoner metal kind of.

[Michael McMillan]

That may have been intended as two separate names, but it flowed really well.

[Riley Bray]

As poetic as one.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah, it was great.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

Riley, it's so great to be back in the clubhouse with you.

[Riley Bray]

It is.

[Michael McMillan]

We're gonna have a little relaxed episode today. We've got a fun size high strangeness coming up for you. We're getting back into UFOs this week. I'm very excited.

[Riley Bray]

So.

[Michael McMillan]

Good. Found a cool UFO case that I actually didn't really know about and there's physical evidence.

[Riley Bray]

Oh, okay. Color me intrigued.

[Michael McMillan]

And you can go see it in a museum.

[Riley Bray]

What?

[Michael McMillan]

Yes. Is that a good tease? Yeah. Well, before we get to that, why don't you tip over that corn cob pipe and give it a little pat on the back because it's time for.

[Riley Bray]

Apple core. What's your. What's your preferred tobacco brand? Yes, your preferred brand, sir. I'm just wondering, in your pipe, what are you smoking?

[Michael McMillan]

I've got a little bit of everything, if you know what I mean.

[Riley Bray]

That was a non answer, but the first time he's acknowledged my existence. So we're getting somewhere. A little bit of everything. Is he smoking asbestos and dirt?

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah. I mean, probably something in there. I wouldn't put it in your mouth. That's all I'll say. We'll find out. Maybe he'll come back with an answer if he's had a little more time to think about it.

[Riley Bray]

I know your knowledge of or his knowledge of pipe tobacco might be limited.

[Michael McMillan]

I don't know. We don't know when he was born or when he died.

[Riley Bray]

Could have just said like Old Kentucky and I would have believed it.

[Michael McMillan]

You know what he said? He's got a little bit of everything in there.

[Riley Bray]

That's true. I like the mystery, you know, let's live in the mystery.

[Michael McMillan]

I like the question marks surrounding apple crust. Okay.

[Riley Bray]

We don't know when he's from. We don't know where he's going. We don't.

[Michael McMillan]

And you know, here's the thing. I really, I, I endorse and I appreciate W. Dave Keith's interpretation of applesauce. You know, it's sort of what we've all pictured. But I'm not going to say one way or another if that's exactly how applesauce looks. And might I even suggest applesoft might be a shapeshifter.

[Riley Bray]

Could be. I've never been able to make him out through the cloud of smoke, so that's, well, yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

Or apple crust, for that matter.

[Riley Bray]

Oh, yeah, of course.

[Michael McMillan]

I'm just saying, whatever these, whatever the apple family tree is, the apples, who knows what they really are.

[Riley Bray]

I still like apple tart. The hardworking.

[Michael McMillan]

Where's she been lately?

[Riley Bray]

Oh, she's, you know, up in Birmingham.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

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[Michael McMillan]

That's how you, yes. And people, that's how you ask a question and get a definitive answer back. That's how it happens. Riley, why don't you tell us what Gwen had to say? And this is all, by the way. I pulled all of these from the co, from the discord in the episode discussion channel.

[Riley Bray]

Yes, yes. New way to get yourself on the show is over there. Well, Gwen says this, the new Ghost Quest episode reminds me of the Bigfoot Haunt at Shaver Lake episode. More BCC road trips, please. Yes, Gwen, couldn't agree more. That was so fun.

[Michael McMillan]

We had so much fun. We? You, you and I haven't actually talked since I edited the whole thing together and put it up. I, I, it was very fun to do. I did stay up till 4 o' clock in the morning trying to get everything right. And at one point, I'm sure you've been here where you're just like, I gotta let this go.

[Riley Bray]

This has gotta go. Whatever. Good enough it goes.

[Michael McMillan]

There's a couple sloppy things in there that I'm like, damn it, you are.

[Riley Bray]

The only one who sees that. Because all I saw was perfection.

[Michael McMillan]

Were you happy? We haven't talked about it. You like how it turned out?

[Riley Bray]

Yeah. I really like your font choices and your color choices too. The graphic design. It was very nice.

[Michael McMillan]

Thank you.

[Riley Bray]

No, there was some real comedy in the editing, some great little beats and that. It had, it had a rhythm.

[Michael McMillan]

It had a, you know what I mean?

[Riley Bray]

It was bouncing. It was moving. It was fun.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah. I really, I have to say, I really, really enjoyed making it. I mean, we all made it together, but sitting down and editing it was.

[Riley Bray]

You Made it the most. Let's be honest.

[Michael McMillan]

It was the. I don't think that's fair. But I. I mean, in terms of what you're seeing in front of your eyes, I guess the way it's. It's composed. Yes. But I. I will say this. I love making the show. I love making the podcast, obviously, but that was some of the most fun I've ever had doing the show. Doing. Doing the actual hang. Doing the Ghost Quest. And then from. From, like, from the. From the time I picked you up from the airport until the time I dropped you off, and then all the editing that came later, that was some of the most fun I've ever had making a show.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah, I agree. I'd like to do more of this. I like the style of doing it where we're really going somewhere. And also you get cameras out. You can have a little more fun with it. And you're on the fly, playing around. It's a good time.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah, Stephen Meyer said about it. This is some of the best. Stephen Meyer Jr. Sorry, we're not talking about your father. This is some of the best BCC content I've seen. I love the investigations. You guys need to do this periodically. Well, I think we will.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah. That's the idea.

[Michael McMillan]

What you guys need to do is start spreading the word and letting all the other club scouts know about the YouTube channel and that this stuff is out there. That would be a big help because they're definitely more of you than. There are views on this stuff. So we want to keep doing it. It's fun for us. Like I said, we're hanging out anyway. But it would be very encouraging if we could get more people to watch it. So just share it if you can, or just make sure, you know, I put the links up in the discord to make it easy for people to find. But, yeah, please, just. If you haven't, please go check that stuff out. And the Ghost Quest, the haunted. The Haunted Eldridge Hotel video is 95% new material from the podcast episode. It's a very much a companion thing. It's a. Almost all new material. And. And I. I put an indication in the video of, like, this is where the podcast happens. So you can jump over if you want to. But anyway, what did Mundane Anomaly have to say?

[Riley Bray]

They say, okay, I need to talk about the most recent episode, Ghost Quest. First up, don't tell me it's Eldridge and not Eldritch.

[Michael McMillan]

Oh, there you go.

[Riley Bray]

You're probably right about that. Almost certainly right about that. Second Cheese dreams. I thought I said chase dreams as in the other two.

[Michael McMillan]

Chase dreams. I love chase dreams.

[Riley Bray]

Oh, so that's the other two.

[Michael McMillan]

One of my favorite shows.

[Riley Bray]

It's so good. Sorry we got distracted from your comments, guys.

[Michael McMillan]

If you've not watched the other two, go watch it. It's so funny. Pause right now.

[Riley Bray]

Go watch all of it and come back. It's a mess. Oh, my God.

[Michael McMillan]

It's so fucking funny.

[Riley Bray]

Oh, okay. Anyways, second, cheese dreams, different thing. Are a real thing and my partner has them often. She's really into cheese.

[Michael McMillan]

Oh.

[Riley Bray]

Third, instead of a video of the ghost quest, I'd love to see it animated. Like the way distractible does some of their episodes. We would love that too. They have so much money.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah. Do you know how many viewers they.

[Riley Bray]

Have Animation so expensive. And we don't want to do, you know, slop AI animation. So we.

[Michael McMillan]

We'd love that. We don't have nearly the same amount of budget as Markiplier. Yeah.

[Riley Bray]

The most famous person on YouTube. Second.

[Michael McMillan]

I mean, help us out. We can be spread the word.

[Riley Bray]

Like I said, you get those numbers up. The things we would do for you.

[Michael McMillan]

Oh, my God, you guys, all we need is more numbers. Yeah, as if it's, you know, that's all you got to do is.

[Riley Bray]

We got the ideas. Yeah, We.

[Michael McMillan]

We got the motivation. We got the ideas. All we need is you guys. That's truly. We need to get the show to more people.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah, but I mean, we're not complaining.

[Michael McMillan]

No, we're not. We're here with you. We're having a. We're having a blast.

[Riley Bray]

Great.

[Michael McMillan]

This is the best time ever. I don't even remember what the were the cheese dreams about, like how cheese gives you nightmares, probably.

[Riley Bray]

We were eating. Cuz we ate pizza and then we were talking about sleeping in the haunted.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right.

[Riley Bray]

Cheese dreams.

[Michael McMillan]

Cheese dreams. A bit of cheese. You're a bit of cheese. That's like a scrooge from the Christmas Carol.

[Riley Bray]

Maybe just like do like a cheese time cut off, you know, if you're worried, if you're having a lot of cheese dreams.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah, more than.

[Riley Bray]

I mean, a normal amount.

[Michael McMillan]

I think you would have to eat like, at least more than two slices of cheese to have a cheese dream.

[Riley Bray]

That you got to like do the late night pizza.

[Michael McMillan]

I think.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

You got to dig in for the nachos. I think you're eating like a half a brick of cheddar.

[Riley Bray]

Oh, you just going straight in on the cheese. Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

I just think you're nibbling away like a little mouse.

[Riley Bray]

I can't, I need context. I can't eat.

[Michael McMillan]

Can't eat. Just like a. What about just like a slice of cheese?

[Riley Bray]

No, I can't do it. I need really, I need some crunch, crunch with it. I need, I need, I need a cheese substrate.

[Michael McMillan]

Really.

[Riley Bray]

I'm really weird about context with food. Everything has to be. I turn everything into little bites, you.

[Michael McMillan]

Know, Wait, let's get into this.

[Riley Bray]

Like if I have like a plate with like some rice and some beans and a main and some chips, like I'll take like a chip and I'll put like a little bit of beans and a little bit of rice and a little bit of my thing and then I'll have like one perfect bite at every. I'm always like, I turn everything into like little sandwiches basically.

[Michael McMillan]

That's fun. I mean, you're, I don't think you're that strange for.

[Riley Bray]

No, I don't either. Caitlyn gives me guff about it.

[Michael McMillan]

You're just trying to, you know, you're, you're, you're like your little pog over there. You're.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

Complex flavor profiles.

[Riley Bray]

Perfect balance. Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

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[Riley Bray]

We were, we were.

[Michael McMillan]

Now I'll be fair. We were looking for Bigfoot in Kansas, but we had stayed in Missouri for most of the weekend. And would you know that not shortly after we left, Mr. Bigfoot himself decided to make an appearance.

[Riley Bray]

No kidding.

[Michael McMillan]

That's right, everybody. Where the BCC goes, so too goes Bigfoot. It's another time for your favorite new segment. Where in the world is Bigfoot? San Diego.

[Riley Bray]

That was your best one yet.

[Michael McMillan]

Thank you. I think I'm just going to make them more unhinged.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

All right. August 20, 2025 in Butler County, Missouri. Now, can you do a quick googs and look at where Poplar Bluff and see how close it is to Kansas City. It's halfway between St. Louis and Memphis, Tennessee. So it's on the other side of the state. Now I'm gonna need you, my friend. After you. Quick goog's that. I'm gonna need you to click the link that I've, I've provided for you because we got trail camera photos from Poplar Bluff, Missouri that allegedly show a unidentified tall hairy creature in the creek.

[Riley Bray]

Wow.

[Michael McMillan]

And they've even positioned a human in the same spot. A six foot tall human for scale. And you can see how a person looks very different than whatever the this is on the trail cam.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

Are you looking at what I'm looking at here? We'll put it up right, right here. Look at it everybody. You can look right now. I've got it up up for you guys. To peek at. Okay, here we go. This is from the BRFO website. I would like to show a photo. This is from the observer. I would like to show the photo that I have of one of my game cameras. Took on Wednesday, August 20, 2025 at 12:30pm I live in Poplar Bluff, Missouri, about 15 minutes west of town. The photo shows what looks to me like a bigfoot. That's the only way I know how to describe it. I was alerted via my iPhone that my camera had taken a picture because motion was detected. As soon as I pulled up the image to see what triggered it. I was immediately curious because I could see something huge standing in the middle of the creek. I quickly went to show my wife who I was eating lunch with at the time. She agreed it looked like something huge, but she couldn't quite make out what it could be. I loaded up the live view option on this camera since it has cellular capabilities. By the time it pulled up the live view of the creek, 10 to 15 seconds later, the creature was already gone. It was no longer in the frame. I had to go back to work after lunch until five that afternoon.

[Riley Bray]

Imagine just going back to work after that.

[Michael McMillan]

You gotta go back to work and you've just possibly captured bigfoot on your trail camera. I wouldn't even finish lunch with my wife. I would have been up and out of there, Heading straight to that creek.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

After work, I called my brother. That's the first. Listen, the first person you need to call if you see bigfoot is your brother. And if you do not have a brother, you call the closest thing to a brother that you call.

[Riley Bray]

Yes, exactly.

[Michael McMillan]

And I told him to meet me and we would go down to the creek and try to see what this was. When we got down there, we started looking for footprints and found none on the banks. Whatever it was appeared to have stayed in the water the entire time. Very clever way to cover your tracks.

[Riley Bray]

That's true.

[Michael McMillan]

Unfortunately, the creek bottom in this area is extremely coarse and has nothing but fist sized creek gravel. So the ability to see any type of footprint was very difficult. The water this time of year is about waist to ankle deep and flows at a pretty quick pace. I had my brother stand where the creature was standing and try to replicate the image of him. At which point we realized the creature was several feet tal. Then my brother, who is 6ft tall, I'm looking back at that photo. I mean, that's a good. I guess we could put at least a foot or two on top of. On top of that That's a big figure.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah, that is a big figure.

[Michael McMillan]

So, I mean, we've seen some of these baby boys be like, what, seven, eight, nine feet tall? Sure. So. Oh, wow, wow, wow, wow. Let's see.

[Riley Bray]

I did look up Poplar bluff. It is about as far from Kansas city as you can get and still be in Missouri.

[Michael McMillan]

Well, you know what?

[Riley Bray]

We were still there.

[Michael McMillan]

We summoned bigfoot.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah, I'm gonna say it was us.

[Michael McMillan]

We see deer out on the farm all the time. But we knew this was not a deer for obvious reasons. This thing appears to be facing the camera standing up on two legs. Just to make sure we did our investigation due diligence, we went about two days later and took another picture of my brother standing in the same spot. But this time we took it with the game cam itself instead of my iPhone. Okay. That must be what we're looking at. And at the same time of day, the images are similar. Same camera from the same angle on a different day. The water level was a few inches lower, but otherwise, the conditions and lighting were basically the same. This thing was still several feet taller than my brother. I set up the cell cellular trail camera so I could easily check the water level of the creek through my iPhone app. But this camera can detect motion also, it is only detect ever detecting motion and taken photos when the small branches and leaves right in front of it triggered it while blowing in the breeze. There were several images sent that day that were triggered by the blowing leaves. This creature happened to be in the creek when the camera was triggered by the leaves at this moment. Whoa. Serendipitous. Yeah, let's see. Cha cha, cha, cha cha.

[Riley Bray]

I can't believe this trail cam is $34.

[Michael McMillan]

We should all be getting these trail cams.

[Riley Bray]

Okay. They're even saying I had to rub my eyes and take a second look at the price because I couldn't believe it. I can't either.

[Michael McMillan]

Wow. That's pretty nice.

[Riley Bray]

She's gonna order one of these bad boys.

[Michael McMillan]

There's a lot of, like, information about the camera and why they have it set up. He says, finally, this creature is several feet taller than my six inch brother. Six inch?

[Riley Bray]

Well, there' the issue, the problem.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah. Oh, man. He said if I had a memory card in at the time, I could have saved those images in high resolution. I don't know. Damn it. Dude, put. Damn it. This creature, several feet taller than my six foot brother, as well as two or three times wider. It's colored brown and black. It is standing on two legs, has Two arms and appear to be walking towards the camera. I believe it is a Bigfoot. Yeah. Also noticed we have heard howls in the area of the farm for years, but have never really thought much of it until now. I've always assumed it was maybe coyotes. The this creek is down at the base of a big hill and has a flat area next to it that we call Hidden Valley. No other witnesses, no face to face witnesses. Just the image on the camera. Other stories. After I started asking around, I found that several other people from over the years had also had strange occurrences like this or had actually seen what they believed to be bigfoot. It was 12:30pm it was bright and sunny outside. And yeah, you got a creek. You got woods on either side of the creek with very thick vegetation. Shallow water year round, unless it's raining and flooding. I gotta say, this is pretty cool.

[Riley Bray]

It's a pretty good one. Yeah. And you know, if I were a Bigfoot, this is. I'd be. This is where I'd be hanging out.

[Michael McMillan]

Oh, man.

[Riley Bray]

This is the environment a hundred percent.

[Michael McMillan]

Oh, yeah, we really. It really is. Caddy corner from. Yeah, from Kansas City. Yeah. There's actually. If you scroll down in the link that I'll post in the show notes, you can see there's actually a map that shows where it is. This. Matthew Moneymaker checked this one out and yeah, this is pretty awesome. I love this. And get a load of this, buddy. My sis also sent me this. This is from. Let's see, what channel is like K101 or something, but a gigantic big footprint was discovered in Missouri. There's a new video that only leaves two possibilities. There's either a person in Missouri who has been. Who's had their shoes custom made, or a huge cryptid is wandering around in the backwoods. One of my favorite Missouri YouTube channels is Sasquatch Theory. The host doesn't just share Bigfoot stories, but often goes on the location of reported sightings and investigates himself. That's the case for a new short video he just dropped in his channel, which shows gigantic prints near Pacific, Missouri. Pacific Missouri is located to the southwest of the St. Louis region. This is not too far from where we're talking about.

[Riley Bray]

Mm.

[Michael McMillan]

So there's a video for this. There's no backstory. It's just a. So who knows?

[Riley Bray]

I'm not buying this one.

[Michael McMillan]

You think this one's fake?

[Riley Bray]

Yeah, there's no. There's no dermal ridges.

[Michael McMillan]

This looks like no dermal ridges. Oh, yeah. This is pretty flat.

[Riley Bray]

And it's too. It's too much.

[Michael McMillan]

Oh, there's two. Well, the toes curl.

[Riley Bray]

I know, but it's like. It's too, like, perfectly, like, done. It's just.

[Michael McMillan]

That is deep mud. That one looks fake. There's two. There's, like, two tracks. The left foot looks real fake also.

[Riley Bray]

If this is it, just this looping 2. 2 tracks. I don't buy it. I don't buy it.

[Michael McMillan]

Well, I'm just saying. Bigfoot action theory.

[Riley Bray]

Come at me, bro. Just kidding. Don't come at me. Don't come at me, please.

[Michael McMillan]

You don't want them.

[Riley Bray]

Come on the show and talk.

[Michael McMillan]

Explain. Sure.

[Riley Bray]

Tell us about it. We'd love.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah, this was. Don't come at me 101. The Eagle. She must be St. Louis radio station.

[Riley Bray]

Makes sense. Yeah. I'm not saying the person that filmed this faked it, but I think somebody put that there.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah.

[Riley Bray]

You know?

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah, right, right.

[Riley Bray]

Somebody that's just having. I just have that little laugh. Yeah. Someone's having a laugh. It has that vibe to me.

[Michael McMillan]

Well, it's. He said it's entirely possible that he'll share the complete story soon, so. Another good reason to subscribe to his channel. This guy's just. This guy's just promoting his buddy's YouTube channel.

[Riley Bray]

Keep into, like and subscribe.

[Michael McMillan]

I don't know. How do we get in? How do we get in with the 101 eagle morning zoo crew.

[Riley Bray]

We gotta film some tracks, apparently.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah, I guess so. Well, there you have it. I think that's pretty. The first story is pretty awesome.

[Riley Bray]

Mm. It is. Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

That's a good photo.

[Riley Bray]

First one I'm compelled by. And I like the story of the guy. I like his telling of it. He seems earnest and honest, and I buy it. Yeah, I don't. I don't know what that was. I was trying to like. Could this be, like some weird perspective thing? Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

Is it like a log floating down? I mean, or like, just a deer?

[Riley Bray]

At, like, the weirdest angle where your brain turns it into something.

[Michael McMillan]

Right. I didn't see Paradoil. This looks like a gorilla standing. I don't think it's walking towards camera. It looks like it's standing looking up at the. Up. Up to the tree line. And it looks like it's back is to the right.

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[Riley Bray]

I could see it that way. I could see it that way, too.

[Michael McMillan]

Now, the one thing I'm gonna say that bumps me. I don't see a shadow on this thing. But his brother might be standing further down the creek, like the brother has a reflection in the shadow. This thing doesn't have a reflection and a shadow. Do you see?

[Riley Bray]

Oh, yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

To the right.

[Riley Bray]

I do see that.

[Michael McMillan]

I don't know.

[Riley Bray]

Huh. I see the shadow of, like, the tree above it.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah. Maybe it's just like he's standing for. Maybe this thing's standing further back.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah, it's an angle thing, but you're right, that is a pretty striking difference.

[Michael McMillan]

So just something to consider. Yeah. I don't know. Well, now that I take it back, though, because that shadow is the tree. Look, this. The sun is shining from the. From the right to left. So the tree, like, of the tree in the top right corner of the. Of the. Of the brother, it's casting shadow along the bank. So this is weird if it's the same.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah. You're seeing that reflection of the brother, but you're not seeing that reflection because.

[Michael McMillan]

The light looks to be on the front of the bigfoot. I don't know. I don't know. Somebody else is smarter than me can figure this out.

[Riley Bray]

We need an image forensics on it.

[Michael McMillan]

Image forensics. Let's go.

[Riley Bray]

Let's go. Now I'm looking at the pixelation real carefully. I'm like, does this line up well?

[Michael McMillan]

The shadows, the shadows there. If you scroll down, you'll see the full picture. The shadow is there.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah. The tree shadows there for sure.

[Michael McMillan]

But.

[Riley Bray]

But the reflection of the brother you see clearly.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah.

[Riley Bray]

And the reflection of the creature you do not.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah. I don't know. Now my alarm bells are going off.

[Riley Bray]

Oh, no.

[Michael McMillan]

Let's not look at it too much longer and spoil the fun.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah, I was having a good time. Another blurry image of Bigfoot, everybody.

[Michael McMillan]

There you go. Let us know what you think in the comment section in the Discord. So good, so good, so good.

[Riley Bray]

Score.

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[Michael McMillan]

Okay, let's move on to some high strangeness. Fun size. So I told you I came across the story. This is pretty fun. Also an August based story. This happened on August 27, 1979. So just a little, little over 46 years ago, which is pretty cool. Back in 1979, a deputy sheriff in Minnesota had a startling encounter with an unidentified flying object that redefined the term close encounter. Buckle your seat belts, Club Scouts. We are dipping back into the realm of UFO mysteries this week with the Val Johnson UFO Incident.

[Riley Bray]

That's another band on the festival.

[Michael McMillan]

Yes, the Val John. But I feel like Val Johnson's got a little bit of a hairband vibe to it.

[Riley Bray]

Oh yeah, yeah. Val Johnson UFO Incident shreds.

[Michael McMillan]

Yes.

[Riley Bray]

They're not closing down like the. They're like the tent, the late night tent, you know.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah.

[Riley Bray]

Yes. This isn't your dad's pr. Prague rock.

[Michael McMillan]

No. And I feel like they all wear jock straps on the outside of their tight pants.

[Riley Bray]

Nice. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I see.

[Michael McMillan]

They're like the aliens mixed up our underwear. So. August 27, 1979. The setting was Marshall County, Minnesota, 10 miles west of the town of Stevens. It was 1:10am And Deputy Sheriff Val Johnson was driving along Highway 5 when he noticed a strange light floating in the night sky. Curious, he turned down Highway 220 to investigate the source. The area was rural, so the bright light was definitely unusual. Johnson wondered if it were an airplane attempting to make an emergency landing. In a later taped police interview, the deputy sheriff stated. I noticed very bright brilliant light, 8 to 12 inches in diameter, 3 to 4ft off the ground. The edges were very defined. As he approached the light, the object suddenly speeded towards Johnson's vehicle. And at this point he thought this might be a Mack truck with a single headlight. But then he realized it was too big and moving too fast for it to be a truck. This object flew through the windshield, hitting Johnson in the chest like a 200 pound pillow.

[Riley Bray]

Wow.

[Michael McMillan]

Johnson was knocked.

[Riley Bray]

Also how. Also how the band is described as sounding.

[Michael McMillan]

Yes, their sound will hit you in the chest like a 200 pound pillow. And they have a song called Pillow Fight. That's. That is their. That was like top of the charts. The Val Johnson UFO Incident. Bill fight. Hey everybody, it's time for a pid.

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[Michael McMillan]

So he go. He gets knocked unconscious. He wakes up 30 minutes later in his car. In the car.

[Riley Bray]

This is crazy.

[Michael McMillan]

And his windshield has been shattered where the object made contact. The whole thing's intact, but there's like basically what looks like a giant bullet hole in the windshield.

[Riley Bray]

Whoa.

[Michael McMillan]

The antennas on his car were sharply bent back. I think the top one was bent back like 90 degrees to 1 or, or 60 degrees. And the one on the hood of the car was bent back 90 degrees.

[Riley Bray]

Whoa.

[Michael McMillan]

And one of his. You know, this is like one of these old Ford Cruisers. And so there's like a row of headlights up front. On the left you got 2, and on the right you got 2. Only the inner left headlight was blown out. The other ones were fine.

[Riley Bray]

Weird. Which kind of line looks like it lines up with the hole there? Sort of.

[Michael McMillan]

Yes. And yeah. And we're going to. We're going to talk about that in a second. Also, there was a dent on the roof of the car as well.

[Riley Bray]

This picture is the car. Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

Yes.

[Riley Bray]

So this is the coolest looking.

[Michael McMillan]

Oh, cool dude. It's so cool, dude. No, cool dude. Cool dude. Wow. Yeah. Isn't it awesome?

[Riley Bray]

Yeah. We have Straight from God's Light. I tell you.

[Michael McMillan]

We really have. Jeez. This is like if your living room was a car, it would look like this. It kind of is. I'll throw all this up on the, on the, you know, come on, watch this episode. Come on, everybody. Come to the YouTube. Watch it. Johnson also suffered injury. His eyes were burned and painful. And he described it as if he had built. Been in like a welding accident. Like if the. If like he had been welding without his, like, helmet on and the sparks burned his eyes.

[Riley Bray]

Whoa.

[Michael McMillan]

And for days after the event, he was sensitive to bright light. His teeth were broken at the gum line.

[Riley Bray]

What the.

[Michael McMillan]

This thing shattered his teeth.

[Riley Bray]

Oh, my God.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah. So he gets on the radio and in a daze he calls dispatch and Riley, you're gonna play the dispatch. Dispatch operator here, 407.

[Riley Bray]

What's your condition then?

[Michael McMillan]

I don't know. Something just hit my car.

[Riley Bray]

What's your condition? Are you okay?

[Michael McMillan]

Something attacked my car. I heard the glass breaking and the locks, the brakes locked up. I don't know what's going on. And here's a close up picture of the windshield you can see as well. What made the event even stranger is the fact that the clock on the Ford Limited Cruiser and Johnson's wristwatch were 14 minutes behind.

[Riley Bray]

Fuck. What? Matching off two.

[Michael McMillan]

Both of them, two clocks. What matching 14 minutes behind. So there's 14 minutes of missing time on the car clock and on his wristwatch.

[Riley Bray]

I just, I just got the chills on my arms.

[Michael McMillan]

I did too. The windshield also broke in a very strange way. So this is according to an article on the car that I've. Because I was like, I have to look at this car. And of course, that photo that I presented you was from Roadside America. And they, they, they called in some experts, the sheriff's department were like, let's call in some car people to take a look at this. And a metal expert from Honeywell Labs examined the cars two weirdly bent antennas and came away puzzled. The bending, he said, seemed to have been caused by high velocity blasts of air. And a perplexed expert from Ford Motor Co. Wrote that the car's multiple windshield cracks were caused by unknown inward and outward facing for outward forces acting almost simultaneously.

[Riley Bray]

Whoa.

[Michael McMillan]

So it, the windshield blew in and.

[Riley Bray]

Out at the same time.

[Michael McMillan]

At the same time, like compressed the.

[Riley Bray]

Glass from opposing forces.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah.

[Riley Bray]

And you can bonkers.

[Michael McMillan]

You can see this shatter. It's really weird.

[Riley Bray]

It is weird looking. Very weird.

[Michael McMillan]

So, and again, according to the article, all of the damage to the car from front to back was within a straight line, only one foot wide. So if you just imagine a beam that's one foot wide, this light moves on that trajectory and it all hits everything consistently within that foot wide radius.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

And I know that this is like old school windshield, but it is kind of crazy that it didn't blast the entire windshield apart.

[Riley Bray]

It is before they were using like.

[Michael McMillan]

I think before they did the tempered glass stuff.

[Riley Bray]

Huh. It is a crazy crack pattern. Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah.

[Riley Bray]

So it does look like it went like, like.

[Michael McMillan]

Yep.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah. Sorry if that was loud on.

[Michael McMillan]

No, no, no, it wasn't at all. I just like imagine. Imagine waking up in that situation and being like, what the.

[Riley Bray]

Like you were just driving, seeing a light that you just wake up. Like, what?

[Michael McMillan]

Like, oh, what's that? An airplane? And then you're like, who? And now you, your teeth are broken.

[Riley Bray]

Like broken off or like.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah, shattered at the gum line. Oh.

[Riley Bray]

Oh, God. Teeth stuff really gets me.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah, it's not good. Oh, it's just, it's crazy.

[Riley Bray]

The one thing that I would. Maybe you've already. Maybe you'll get into. Maybe I'm doing the jump. But ball lightning. Could this have been a. I agree.

[Michael McMillan]

But it sounds like this thing, he saw it off in the distance.

[Riley Bray]

Isn't that what ball lightning does? It like, it kind of like pools and exists and then it like. Like maybe he literally drove through lightning.

[Michael McMillan]

I don't know. But do you have to have storm conditions for lightning?

[Riley Bray]

No, not at. No. There was lightning yesterday in la.

[Michael McMillan]

See it lasting. Oh, sorry. Sorry. Go on.

[Riley Bray]

Sorry. Just the lightning happens in weird conditions. And this doesn't have to be a storm raining. It just happens sometimes.

[Michael McMillan]

Well, so here's some. Here's some stuff on ball lightning. It's saying that it lasts for just a few seconds. So if he sees this thing hovering out over the trees and he's watching it and he saw it continuously. Yeah. And then drives towards it and suddenly it's moving towards him. I don't know. Like ball light. I thought about ball lightning too, but that's. It seems like this thing hung around longer than that.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah. And the. The. The stopped and then started. Clocks is also strange.

[Michael McMillan]

Yes. The fort. The missing time is wild.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

So Val Johnson wanted to have the car repaired so he could just like get back to work. But instead it was preserved and put on display at the Marshall County Fair because they were like, ladies and gentlemen, we have something interesting. The sheriff's department then donated the car to the Settler Square Historical Museum in Warren, Minnesota. And it's still there today. We can go look at that car. And I think we should go look at that.

[Riley Bray]

We need to go there. We have to go there.

[Michael McMillan]

The sheriff, Dennis Brecky was completely supportive of Val Johnson story. He said that he had no reason to doubt his deputies, that he was a good guy. He would not make this thing up. And it seems to me that it has. It captured his imagination as well. And Brekkie, it was also known to appear at talks about UFOs in the area for. For years after the event. You know, because he was. And he's the one that was like, do not fix this car. We gotta. This is he.

[Riley Bray]

You guys.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah. I think. I think Brekkie realized that this was something special.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

And. And he believed him. I think Val Johnson is what is we're about to discuss. Like didn't really was. It was like not super interested in what happened to him, you know. So the police investigated the event, but it remains unexplained 46 years later. The story made Val Johnson a local legend. This really took off this story. UFOs in the unexplained were very big during the 1970s. And he ended up doing interviews on Good Morning America and the show. That's incredible. And I'm including a YouTube link. Riley, I think you should pop this on just to get a feel for the aesthetics, I'm including a YouTube link to the segment already from that's incredible, which is pretty awesome. And during the interview on that's Incredible, johnson told the studio audience, well, upon reflection, we've come to the conclusion that perhaps the creator has made other things we can't readily see or readily identify. And perhaps this is one of the things we encountered on the road. But later in life, it really seems like Johnson wasn't that interested in the subject or at least talking about it. After years of questions and theories that were lauded his way, Johnson just wanted the whole thing to go away. In 2015, he told Minnesota Public Radio, I saw a ball of light, I drove toward it, and suddenly it was in the car with me. It's unexplainable and will remain so. I'm happy with my mental stability.

[Riley Bray]

He just dropped that. Nope, nope. No one. No one.

[Michael McMillan]

I'm not crazy. I'm not crazy. And I think he was like, and I don't want to think of. I don't want to go down the path to making me feel crazy.

[Riley Bray]

Sure. I mean, I get, I. I get Chevell.

[Michael McMillan]

A big champion of this story was ufologist Jerome Clark, who included this story in one of his books. I think it was in the UFO encyclopedia. And Jerome Clark also was like, this case feels very, very legit to me. You know, and obviously all these ufologists, they get excited when there's physical evidence and they want to be like, it feels legit. But. But again, I just, like, there's something about this case and the Lonnie Zamora case and, you know, and the, there's the one from England that I'm trying to. The name's escaping me right now. The Herbert Shermer case. Like these, these cases were like blue collar police guys out in, you know, rural areas encountered these things by themselves. And, you know, they don't want to talk about this because they don't want to lose their jobs. So it's just fascinating that it also kind of falls into a pattern of these kind of stories.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah, that's my favorite witness, though, is the person that's like, oh, boy.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah. And I, he, he basically like, he got another job. He was in. On the police force in another county, and then he got fired due to, well, I think he said, like, funding disputes, but he did not get rehired at. In a police force again. He was like a security cop for a while, and then he got hired to, to work at like a product call center. So I Think this kind of took a toll on him. It kind of like, it. It kind of knocked his career trajectory off course for sure.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

You know, and this is like, 79. This is like the. This is absolutely in the era where people are like, these kooks, you know.

[Riley Bray]

They'Re starting to go that way at the beginning of the 80s, you know.

[Michael McMillan]

So, yeah, it's a pretty. He kind of like, faded into obscurity. I believe he's still alive. The most recent interview I found of his was from 2021, and he was still saying the same thing. He was like, yep, I don't know. I'm happy with my mental stability.

[Riley Bray]

All I can tell you is I'm definitely not crazy.

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[Riley Bray]

I'll tell you what, though. I'd like to remake this episode of that's incredible. Shot four. Shot.

[Michael McMillan]

Oh, that would be fun.

[Riley Bray]

This is awesome.

[Michael McMillan]

Isn't it great?

[Riley Bray]

Yeah, it's so good. Also, every pair of sunglasses and eyeglasses in this is just a masterpiece.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah. I mean, you really should have just, like, fro. You should. This is like, where you. Your style should just freeze. You know what I mean? Like, you are like 1979, you know? Yeah. It's a good era for you.

[Riley Bray]

It is. It is. Yeah. Especially Sunglasses Man. Oh, yeah, they did them right back then. Sunglasses and Cop Cars.

[Michael McMillan]

Sunglasses and Cop Cars. Another song. That's the album title from. That's the name of the album from Val Johnson and the UFO Incident. There you go, everybody.

[Riley Bray]

It's called I'm Very happy with my mental stability.

[Michael McMillan]

And it's just the guy smoking on the hood of a police car with his sunglasses, just staring off into the sky.

[Riley Bray]

Exactly.

[Michael McMillan]

With a mustache. There you go. The Val Johnson UFO incident. This is a great case. Really fun.

[Riley Bray]

I love that they preserved the car. That's so cool.

[Michael McMillan]

Oh, so cool. I think we have Dennis. Sheriff Dennis Brecky to thank for that. I don't. I don't think it would have been preserved because, you know, he's clearly got jurisdiction of what happens to that. We gotta keep it. Everybody put it up. You gotta keep it.

[Riley Bray]

More Chicago.

[Michael McMillan]

That's fine.

[Riley Bray]

You're all right.

[Michael McMillan]

Don't worry about it. We gave up on accents a long time.

[Riley Bray]

Sure did.

[Michael McMillan]

I mean, I could double down and, like, really get serious with them, but I don't want to. Also, when you hear him talk, he has a pretty.

[Riley Bray]

Just talks like a guy.

[Michael McMillan]

He just talks like a guy.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

All right, everybody. I think that does it for this installment of the Other side.

[Riley Bray]

That's a good one.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah. Fun stuff, right? Hey, we got a pretty good Bigfoot picture. And we got a pretty cool classic UFO encounter story. Next week we are going to drop the super cast only bonus episode. Right. And ask me anything. We were going to drop it at the end of. Of August, and then we decided to give you all a little bit more time to get some questions in. So that'll be up next week. But that doesn't mean if you're still on Patreon, it don't mean that you're not getting three bonus episodes this month. You are. It just means the super cast folks are getting one extra one over the BCC clubhouse. So why don't you just come join us there now? How's that sound? Think about that.

[Riley Bray]

It's a little nudge.

[Michael McMillan]

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[Riley Bray]

We love all of our children, but this child gets more presence.

[Michael McMillan]

Yes, it's true. And also this child, the other child, is slowly dying. Yeah. Just think of it as like a pet lizard that's lived out its natural.

[Riley Bray]

Let's go with. Let's go with lizards.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah, that lizard that's lived along. I mean, health.

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[Michael McMillan]

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[Riley Bray]

That's a very broad question.

[Michael McMillan]

I'm just thinking like the. The Patreon has been around for 8ish years. 7 1/2 years.

[Riley Bray]

Geckos and anoles often living 5 to 15 years.

[Michael McMillan]

Okay, great.

[Riley Bray]

Iguanas and leopard geckos can reach 15 to 20.

[Michael McMillan]

Wow. Okay, so this is like a healthy gecko this gecko's had a pretty healthy life, and now it's just gonna slowly die. It'll be dead by the end of October.

[Riley Bray]

Jesus.

[Michael McMillan]

Recurring theme with dying geckos on this show.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah, we've done it again. What do you know?

[Michael McMillan]

All right, everybody, we'll see you over at BCC Clubhouse next week. And if you're not there, we'll see in two weeks over on patreon.com. oh, I'm holding.

[Riley Bray]

This whole time, Lisa Simpson.

[Michael McMillan]

I've been holding a Lisa Simpson in action this entire time. You know, I guess whatever I got in front of me, I did this quick plug I did. Steve Berg and I were on a quiz show called Like Minds, which is produced by friend of the show, Greg Hess. And one of the answers to the question, one of the answers was Lisa Simpson. And I pulled this off the shelf above my computer to be like, I even haven't. Lisa Simpson.

[Riley Bray]

Nicely done. Nicely done.

[Michael McMillan]

And it's been here ever since.

[Riley Bray]

So I heard that show's. That show's good. Yeah. A good time.

[Michael McMillan]

Very fun. Very fun show, really. It's like a real quick and easy listen, if you like quiz shows or if you like playing quiz, you know, like taking the quiz down at the pub, you know, doing quiz. Quiz nights, Trivia night. That's what I'm trying to think of. It's right. It's got that feel. But Joey Bland, who is the host and who writes the questions, is very smart and very clever. And so there's sort of like, he picks a theme and then he. He layers different levels of, you know, playing on words and playing on the theme within the question. So it's a great. It's a really entertaining show. Cool. So, yeah, Like Minds. Go check it out. Go follow it and support our. Our buddy Greg. Yeah, it's a fellow Q code show, so go check it out. I'm not sure when our episode's coming out. I think they record them pretty far in advance, but obviously I'll let you know when Steve and I are on.

[Riley Bray]

Cool.

[Michael McMillan]

All right.

[Riley Bray]

Are you guys against each other?

[Michael McMillan]

Yes, we played against each other.

[Riley Bray]

Oh, I want to know who won.

[Michael McMillan]

But we played against each other.

[Riley Bray]

Huh? It's friendly, but, you know.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah, I can't say. I can't tell you. I'd be smiling. I've already. I've already given one of the answers away, which I probably even shouldn't even do that.

[Riley Bray]

Oh, yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

But, you know, it's kind of any.

[Riley Bray]

It's kind of obvious one. It happens.

[Michael McMillan]

Whatever. Okay. All right, everybody, see you soon. We love you. Where there's love, there's kisses.

[Riley Bray]

Thank you, Club Scouts.

[Michael McMillan]

Thank you, Club Scouts.

[Riley Bray]

Thanks. See you later. They probably think the video stop. But it didn't. Okay.

[Michael McMillan]

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