"Wet Hot Alien L-Files 4-Ever"

Summary

Bigfoot Collectors Club — "Wet Hot Alien L-Files 4-Ever"

Date: July 1, 2026
Hosts: Michael McMillan & Riley Bray
Episode Theme: A classic "wet hot alien summer" Clubhouse episode featuring listener-submitted L-File stories centering on dreams, UFO sightings, paranormal encounters, and the evolving landscape of UFO disclosure. No guest this week—just Michael and Riley going deep into personal high strangeness, government UFO files, dream contact, and the supernatural through their trademark blend of genuine curiosity and silly clubhouse banter.

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Episode Overview

In this holiday-edition Clubhouse hang, Michael and Riley read and discuss a selection of L-File letters from listeners around the world, focused primarily on high-strangeness dreams and personal UFO/paranormal encounters. Along the way, they touch on the latest developments in official UFO disclosures, the social paradigm shift in belief around aliens, and the interconnected nature of different types of high strangeness. The tone is playful, irreverent, and occasionally introspective—a blend of amusement at the weird and sincere engagement with the mysterious.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Kicking Off Wet Hot Alien Summer

• Michael and Riley set the scene for the episode: no guest due to the July holiday, but plenty of L-Files and classic "wet hot alien summer" energy. They allude to the "bummer time" of the country's 250th anniversary and bizarre current events.
  • Notable quote [02:25]:
    Michael: “No guest this week. It’s a clubhouse hang—it’s a holiday week here in the States… But, oh my god, here we are.”

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2. Dreams as Alien Contact

• The duo dive right in with the observation that many UFO stories now involve dreams or subconscious contact; they muse about Bigfoot/alien psychic communication and reference Kawani Lapseritis—the "Bigfoot psychic" who claims Bigfoot works for interdimensional alien environmentalists.
  • Notable quote [04:47]:
    Michael: “There’s a guy who claims that he can communicate with Bigfoot telepathically.”
  • [05:13]:
    Riley: “Why would the environmentalists be mining? This doesn’t make any sense.”

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3. Recent UFO Disclosure: Pentagon Files

• Michael summarizes the release of 64 new UFO files/video clips by the Pentagon; the hosts scroll through the news together, express general skepticism, and point out that much of the released footage appears to be mundane—grainy balloons, old military documents, etc.
  • Notable quotes [12:36]:
    Michael: “It doesn’t feel… very new. And it doesn’t feel very substantial. This is just my opinion. There’s definitely some classic saucer photos… but this isn’t really like—it’s not really giving us anything.”

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4. "Insider" Claims of Recovered Alien Bodies

• They discuss claims from Dr. Hal Puthoff that the US has found bodies of four alien species (Grays, Mantids, Nordics, Reptilians). The inclusion of “Nordics” and “Reptilians” leads to some playful skepticism.
  • Notable quote [16:41]:
    Riley: “Reptilian inclusion is what makes me feel like this is… a real red flag, both of those.”
  • Notable quote [17:41]:
    Michael: “Yeah, I’m in a real Fox Mulder era right now where I don’t trust any of these. Trust no one, baby.”

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5. General Shift in Public Belief

• Discussion: Even if hard “proof” remains elusive, there’s a shift in the mainstream—belief that “something is going on” out there.
  • Notable quotes [19:21]:
    Riley: “What has changed over us doing this podcast is, it has been pretty firmly established in mainstream thought that there is something going on.”

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6. L-File Stories: International High Strangeness

6.1. Shadow People and Flying Black Orbs — Listener from the Netherlands

• Johnny "Yoni," a Dutch truck driver, describes:
  1. Shadow people haunting a barn apartment he and his future wife rented as students (both witnessed, neither discussed until years later).
  2. UFO encounter: three matte black balls floated overhead, with the middle oscillating; both Johnny and his wife saw it.
  • Notable quote [28:51] (Johnny via Riley):
    "It was three matte black balls...the outer balls in a straight line forward, but the middle one was ping ponging back and forth between the outer balls."
  • Michael and Riley note the couple's apparent "paranormal connection."

6.2. Riley’s Spontaneous UFO Sighting at Moulin Rouge

• Riley unexpectedly recalls his own recent UFO sighting at Hollywood Forever Cemetery during a screening of Moulin Rouge, right after a moment of emotional elation:
  • A "star-like amber light" in the sky got "brighter and brighter and brighter," then "zapped away" [31:38].

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6.3. Family Generational UFO Intrigue — Granny from Kentucky

• Update from a longtime listener:
  • Original encounter: pulsating yard lights witnessed with her young son 40 years ago, “felt extraterrestrial.”
  • Later: Son and his wife are pursued by similar lights above the treeline; motherly instinct and intuition described as possible psychic protection from abduction.
  • Notable quote [44:15]:
    Granny: “That’s when this mama bear will get less than nice.”

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6.4. Dream of Alien Greys and Sleep Paralysis — EMT Listener (Tyler)

• Dream: Greys scaling the house during a sleep paralysis episode, then hearing three “short steps that sounded like small wet feet slapping on the wood tile”—and cats in the apartment visibly freak out.
  • Notable quote [51:48]:
    Tyler via Riley: “It was three short steps that sounded like small wet feet slapping on the wood tile.”
  • Michael: “I don’t know, it’s really creepy to have a dream of an alien and then have something like that happen and then your cats react.” [53:08]

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6.5. Astral Projection, Precognition & Dream Guides — Intuitive Medium from Toronto (Aaron)

• Early astral projection experience: “sank down through bed, into the drawer, then floated through house.”
• Multiple dream premonitions: proposal timing, friends’ life events, spirit guide encounter (“expressionless blonde, blue-eyed—Nordic?”), highly symbolic pregnancy-related tarot readings (“Son of Cups” matches expected March birth).
  • Commentary: Both hosts agree Aaron is “just pre-remembering things that haven’t happened yet” [61:34].

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6.6. “Realer Than Real” Dream Mission from Blue Avian Alien — Listener Nick

• Dazzling, multi-layered consecutive dream/“contact” experience:
  • Flown through space by a blue, winged, oddly bent-armed being to a galaxy with a deconstructed sun and coral-like cities of sapphire blue and gold.
  • Telepathic exchange: Alien reveals itself as “a shadow of a shadow,” last of an ancient species seeking a lost artifact (possibly on Earth), Nick’s unique energy “configuration” made him the perfect contact.
  • Deep longing to help the being; an “urge to create” cited as a possible calling to share this experience as art or literature.
  • Notable quote [68:39]:
    Nick: “I cannot emphasize enough how much realer than real this felt, and I harbor a deep longing to help these beings.”
  • Both Michael and Riley encourage Nick (who is on the autism spectrum) to create, write, or draw about the experience, suggesting, “Maybe you are the artifact!” [70:22]

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7. Clubhouse Chatter — Musicals, Movies, and Mandalorian

• A tangent into Riley’s complicated feelings about musicals, Michael’s defense of “Crazy Ex-Girlfriend,” and enthusiastic recommendations for moviegoing, especially the new "Mandalorian & Grogu" film.
  • Notable quote [75:35]:
    Riley: “Guys, go to the movies. If you can go to the movies, go to the movies. It’s such a great… So fun.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Michael [17:41]: “Yeah, I’m in a real Fox Mulder era right now where I don’t trust any of these. Trust no one, baby.”
• Riley [51:48]: “...three short steps that sounded like small wet feet slapping on the wood tile.” (Listener’s L-File)
• Michael [68:39]: “I would love it if a blue alien took me to a cool coral city landscape and showed me a layer like Dyson Sphere, you know?”
• Riley [28:54]: “Truck driver. I firmly believe we are, as a species, severely limited in our observational capacity. I really think there are many, many things around us that we can't see or hear because they are outside our frequencies.”
• Michael [19:47]: “There’s no longer denying it... There’s still, I would argue half, if not majority of the population that might believe that there’s alien life out there, but have not been able to visit planet Earth because of the physics, astrophysics involved.”
• Michael [44:15]: “That’s when this mama bear will get less than nice.”

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 02:02 — Show intro; announcements; no guest, Clubhouse hang
• 03:49 — L-Files focus; preview of dreams and alien contact
• 05:03 – 08:13 — The Bigfoot psychic and crossover between alien-Bigfoot phenomena
• 09:17 – 13:37 — Pentagon’s May 2026 UFO file release discussion
• 14:14 – 18:40 — New “insider” claims: government alien body recoveries (Grays, Nordics, Mantids, Reptilians)
• 19:21 – 20:21 — Paradigm shift: UFOs in mainstream belief
• 24:05 – 29:44 — Johnny’s Netherlands L-Files: shadow people and 3-black-ball UFO
• 30:12 – 36:44 — Riley’s impromptu new UFO sighting at Moulin Rouge screening
• 40:04 – 47:14 — Granny from Kentucky’s generational UFO narrative
• 49:19 – 54:46 — EMT Tyler’s sleep paralysis, dream-encounter with Greys, and “wet feet” poltergeist detail
• 55:42 – 62:09 — Aaron’s dreams: astral travel, spirit guides, tarot baby predictions (Toronto)
• 62:37 – 70:44 — Nick’s “realer than real” multi-part dream: ancient blue avian, lost artifact, coral city
• 71:27 – 75:56 — Clubhouse movie and musical tangent; Mandalorian & Grogu film plug

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Tone & Takeaways

• Playful skepticism, sincere awe: Michael and Riley are never too serious, but always sincere in honoring the wonder and weirdness of their listeners' stories.
• Dreams equal high strangeness: Recurrent theme of dreams as valid arenas for “contact” or psychic phenomena; hosts suggest listeners lean into creative expression as a bridge between realm.
• Growing sense that the Phenomenon is All One: UFOs, ghosts, psychic visions, precognition increasingly seen as possibly interconnected aspects of the “other side” or a Jungian “spirit realm.”
• Celebration of the community: Several moments of appreciation for international fans, multigenerational listeners, and the “clubhouse” as a place to share the strange and uncanny.

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Final Thoughts

This episode is a vibrant sampler of the Bigfoot Collectors Club experience: a safe, silly, and thoughtful clubhouse for anyone who’s ever delighted in a campfire story or looked for the extraordinary in the ordinary, where the paranormal is not only believed, it’s celebrated and gently roasted. Whether you’re a UFO exposé skeptic, a synchronicity addict, or just love a good, weird dream saga, this installment delivers—wet hot alien summer (forever) included.

Transcript

[Riley Bray]

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[Michael McMillan]

Wet hot alien Sun Forever forever School's out for summer it's gonna go on forever Wet hot alien Summer forever Summer fleeing for Aquafka Wet hot alien Summer forever Got some classic summer saucers for a classic sauce.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

Oh, yeah. What happened to that? Why is that guy not a thing anymore?

[Riley Bray]

We gotta bring that guy back.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah, bro, like stone. Stoners went from like to like. Yeah, you know what I mean? I mean, SP was always a little. Yeah, but like, this guy's not around.

[Riley Bray]

We gotta get the octaves backup stoners. Come on. I want that. That beautiful soprano stoner.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah.

[Riley Bray]

How are you?

[Michael McMillan]

Oh, wait, we haven't done the intro yet.

[Riley Bray]

Oh, yeah, right. Yeah, yeah, we're doing a podcast.

[Michael McMillan]

Oh, man, I almost forgot. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Bigfoot Collectors Club, the show where we talk to amazing guests about their personal paranormal history and share stories of high strangeness. I am your host, Michael McMillan, and with me always is the supernatural synther, oh,

[Riley Bray]

Riley Bray. Hey, everybody.

[Michael McMillan]

That was submitted by Unrealistic Fox over on the BCC Discord, which you can join when you sign [e-mail] Become part of the clubhouse. It's just one of the few perks that you get when you become an official club scout. Super pery. Yeah, super perky, bro. No guest this week. It's a clubhouse hang. We're. It's a holiday week here in the States. It's, you know. No, this is a tough year for celebrating the 250th anniversary of this country. God, what a. What a bummer time. But, oh, my God, here we are.

[Riley Bray]

Watching the, like, Death Match Dome be set up on the lawn next to the abandoned construction site was so, so deeply demoralizing.

[Michael McMillan]

I mean, listen, we're. We're in the time machine. Who knows?

[Riley Bray]

Maybe. Who knows how that played out? Yeah.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

Who.

[Michael McMillan]

Who knows what'll actually be happening this week? But God, you know, we are going to be celebrating wet hot alien summer forever, as usual, by diving into some of your L file stories. And I went back through the timeline. I found some alien related L files.

[Riley Bray]

A lot of.

[Michael McMillan]

There's some dreams. I'll just say. But. But maybe the dreams are psychic contact. You know, I'm just gonna say the

[Riley Bray]

aliens seem to like the. The. The dream contact.

[Michael McMillan]

I agree.

[Riley Bray]

I think.

[Michael McMillan]

I think dreams and aliens are probably a very underrepresented aspect of the UFO phenomenon.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah, sure. Why not? Dreams in Bigfoot? Not as much.

[Michael McMillan]

Not as much. Although I have had, certainly because of this podcast, I have had dreams where I'm, like, going squatching and I'm finding, like, footprints and, and, and, you know, seeing Bigfoot in the woods, but I'm not getting any. Like Kawanis. What's that guy's name? Kawani's so and so. The. The guy who used to. Oh, let's just Google it right now. There's no Quanis Bigfoot psychic. There's a guy who claims that he

[Riley Bray]

can

[Michael McMillan]

communicate with Bigfoot telepathically.

[Riley Bray]

Whoa.

[Michael McMillan]

And we've talked about him years ago on the show Jack Kawani lapser, sir. Lapseritis. Which sounds like something that you need to go see a doctor about.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah, you're going to want to get that looked at. Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

Kawani lapseritis. Bigfoot told me he works in the mines for interdimensional alien environmentalists.

[Riley Bray]

Why would the environmentalist be mining? This doesn't make any sense.

[Michael McMillan]

It makes zero. Because I have a feeling that Jack Kani Lapritis might be the type of person that thinks environmentalists are absolutely evil. Ah, yes, Maybe not, but getting vibes. We're not going to go down that. Well, you know what let's do? Go down this rabbit hole.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

This is from 2014.

[Riley Bray]

Okay.

[Michael McMillan]

And it says, according to Lapper Lapseritis, Bigfoot has a message for humanity. The human activity is destroying the planet. Okay, okay. He's pro environmental. It's not particularly surprising that a creature associated with the forest is somehow imagined to be concerned about environmental issues. Last week, Laparositis presented a UFO festival and gave an interview to Willamette Week, a newspaper in Portland, Oregon. Some of what he said shocked even me. And it's hodgepodge of random fringe ideas. I'm reading from a blog by name by a man named Jason Colavito. I love it when a blogger gets mad. And at one of these people, Remember our dear friend who was so upset about Dudley Town?

[Riley Bray]

Oh, yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

Show me. What was it?

[Riley Bray]

What are you hiding?

[Michael McMillan]

What are you hiding? Show me your. What did he want to see? It was. Show me something.

[Riley Bray]

Show me your secrets.

[Michael McMillan]

Show me your secrets. The first thing that was surprising is that Lap LAP s claims that he experienced in what. What in another context we would describe as a religious experience and attributed the writing of psychic Sasquatch to a supernatural command. Okay, I just want to know. Yeah, I just want to know what the. What's going on with the minds there? Okay, here's another quote by him. There are many different beings living in our forests. Not just Sasquatch, many different ones. They've been here for millions of years, but they use portals to go in and out of. And the ETs use the portals, too. So when the ETs need help doing mining work for different minerals on our planet, they ask the Sasquatch to help because they're so super powerful and they can move gigantic rocks and stuff to help. Okay, so the aliens haven't figured out how to move rocks. No.

[Riley Bray]

And they still, like, need to make cell phones. So they're like, well, we're going to need to make these chips. We might as well get the big foot out of. I got to play Candy Crush. They're still on.

[Michael McMillan]

They need those minerals for the chips, and they're like PS7s.

[Riley Bray]

Ooh, wow. They've been on GTA 5 for. Yeah, fortnight. Oh, yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

Lucky for them.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

Anyway, I just like that they're like, but we still need big, strong, hairy men to do all of our work.

[Riley Bray]

I know. It's ridiculous.

[Michael McMillan]

So strange. Well, well, here we go.

[Riley Bray]

And yet he threw a UFO festival. You know, it's amazing what you can do if you just set your mind to it.

[Michael McMillan]

It's true. Have we thrown a UFO festival? Can't say we have not. Yeah, I mean, have we made going over 367 episodes of this show? Yes, we have. You might say we have a UFO festival every week here on the podcast.

[Riley Bray]

That's right.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

Welcome.

[Michael McMillan]

All right, well, before we get into the L Files, let's have some wet, hot alien summer shenanigans. We've already read some headlines. Let's read some more. Riley, get ready, because it's time for. You guys.

[Riley Bray]

They changed the layout and it's all different.

[Michael McMillan]

Wait, was the button in Riverside?

[Riley Bray]

Oh, yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

All right, well, I'M sure you saw them. I know I did. I'm sure our listeners did too. The Pentagon released more UFO files.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah, they did.

[Michael McMillan]

So did you have. This is from CBS News. The Pentagon on Friday this would be in late May released a new batch of 64 files related to UFOs or UAPs, unveiling a second tranche of records and includes a 2025 firsthand account from an intelligence officer about an experience that left him virtually speechless. The files, which the President ordered to be made public in an executive order earlier this year, can be viewed on the Pentagon's UFO website, which I believe is still the Department of War UFO website. The most depressing, fun place to go.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

So what's new in the files? So 51 videos include included include the type of grainy infrared footage captured by military cameras and sensors that has become familiar over. Over the past several years. In the description on accompanying the videos, the Pentagon noted that the footage was requested by House lawmakers in March. The videos were found by the All Domain Anomaly Resolution Officer Arrow, the military office responsible for investigating UAP encounters. The PENT noted that many of these materials lack a substantiated chain of custody. And the descriptions note when and where they were likely taken. One notable video appears to show the moment a fighter jet shot down an unidentified object over Lake Huron in 2023.

[Riley Bray]

Whoa.

[Michael McMillan]

A high profile incident that came after a Chinese spy balloon traveled in the US Remember that? Remember when they were shooting down balloons?

[Riley Bray]

Sure do. Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

Later reports indicated that the object may have been a balloon operated by a hobbyist group. So it's just a video of a balloon. A video from.

[Riley Bray]

This is the one that got shot down. I'm confused.

[Michael McMillan]

Yes. They have that fighter jet shooting down an unidentified object over Lake Huron in 2023 that turned out to be a balloon. Yes. If you. I mean there's literally. It looks like there's literally a string on this thing. Like it looks like a balloon. Balloon.

[Riley Bray]

Wow. They're just messing with us. They're like.

[Michael McMillan]

If you go to the link in the show notes. If you go to the link, Riley, you will see there they have this video playing on loop in the. In the article on CBS News.

[Riley Bray]

Okay.

[Michael McMillan]

And I'll put all this up in the show notes. Now if you scroll down a little bit, you'll. You'll see it.

[Riley Bray]

Got it.

[Michael McMillan]

It looks like a Space Invaders.

[Riley Bray]

It does have a string.

[Michael McMillan]

Like, doesn't it look like a little balloon on a string?

[Riley Bray]

This looks like promo for an IT movie or something.

[Michael McMillan]

Yes, that would have been rad. It versus the military. Many of the videos capture he is an alien. Encounters that happen in U.S. central Command's area of responsibility between 2018, 2023, including over the Persian Gulf. Yeah. So scroll through them for yourselves. Club Scouts. There's a. I don't know what to make of this stuff.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

It doesn't feel. I'll just be honest. It doesn't feel very new.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

And it doesn't feel very substantial. This is just my opinion. There's definitely some like classic saucer photos. There's one in 2024 that looks like a fleet of classic CSS. Or I should just say CS's.

[Riley Bray]

Classic S's.

[Michael McMillan]

Classic S's.

[Riley Bray]

And then we feel like they're kind of just kicking the can down the road though.

[Michael McMillan]

There's some stuff. Headquarters or detachment. Dude. There's stuff that's like old documents from 1949.

[Riley Bray]

I mean, that's cool.

[Michael McMillan]

Just objectively, it's fun to just objectively look. Yeah, it's objectively cool that there's like old government documents about intelligence reports about unidentified flying objects, but this isn't really like. It's not really giving us anything. This is not disclosure. It's not giving us anything.

[Riley Bray]

No, just.

[Michael McMillan]

It's nothing.

[Riley Bray]

No, it's a corny website.

[Michael McMillan]

It is a corny website.

[Riley Bray]

URL.

[Michael McMillan]

There, I said it's true. I'm sorry, everybody. I wish. I mean, it's fun that it's dropping during wet hot Alien Summer 4, but like, yeah, it is depressing at the same time. There's. There's an underlining sense of dread when you have to go to the Department of War website in 2026 and look at grainy pictures of UFOs.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

And read quotes from people that you'd rather not think about. Well, speaking of the government, here's a story that's a bit more fun.

[Riley Bray]

Okay.

[Michael McMillan]

Fox News. Yeah. UFO insider claims US has bodies of four different alien species from downed spacecraft in government custody. Did you see this going around?

[Riley Bray]

Oh, I missed this.

[Michael McMillan]

Dr. Hal Puthoff made the claims on a podcast alongside Age of Disclosure director Dan Farah. So, new claims that the United States has recovered remains of four separate alien species are sending shockwaves throughout the UFO disclosure movement, further drumming up conversations surrounding the government's knowledge of otherworldly life. Dr. Hal Puthoff, a CIA funded researcher and former Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications program advisor, announced that the new Revel announced the new revelation while appearing on a UFO roundtable on Steve Bartlett's the Diary of A CEO podcast alongside Age of Disclosure director Dan Farah. Given the level of quality of their technology, if they didn't want to be seen, we wouldn't be seeing them, puthoff said on the podcast. So it seems like I would say there's evidence that for whatever reason, they're wanting to be seen. Puthon went on to claim that federal officials have recovered four separate types of extraterrestrial extraterrestrial life from various UFOs. People who have been involved in recoveries have said that there are at least four types. Four separate types. Now, I would not have direct access to that, but I believe the people who I talk to. Four separate types of life. And here we go. While Puthoff did not elaborate on the specific types, his former OS app colleague Dr. Eric Davis previously revealed they included Nordics, the Riley types, Grays, the spooky types, insectoids like Mantids, and types Reptilians.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

Oh.

[Michael McMillan]

Citing intelligence reports the last year, Davis reportedly claimed that each of the biological life forms pulled from supposed UFO wreckage is similar to humans in appearance, since they possess two arms and a pair of legs. The revelation does not come as a surprise to experts within the UFO disclosure movement. So there you go. People are now just saying outright, we got Grays, mantids, the Nordics is. And Reptilian Inclusion is what makes me feel like this is.

[Riley Bray]

But that's a real red flag, both of those.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah, I believe the grays and I believe the Mantids, but when we're doing like classic 1950s Valiant Thor, Alien contacty Nordics, now I know regular people have seen them, so maybe they're all psychic projections. But as soon as Reptilian comes up, I'm like, okay, yeah, you're losing me a little bit here. People are probably listening, going, michael, what

[Riley Bray]

happened to you used to believe man. To be clear, this guy is saying, I don't know about this, but I know someone who I think I heard

[Michael McMillan]

from a friend who was told by a friend that's, I mean that's was David Grush's stuff when David Grush was testifying. I've never seen the non human biologics, but I've heard I have. I, I think it's a lot of like, trust me, the person who told me should know. But like, why do we trust that person? Yeah, I'm in a real fox molder era right now where I don't trust any of these.

[Riley Bray]

Trust no one, baby.

[Michael McMillan]

Trust in no one.

[Riley Bray]

What differentiates the Nordics just from humans too? Like DNA wise. What Are we talking? They're.

[Michael McMillan]

I don't know.

[Riley Bray]

Is.

[Michael McMillan]

I, I, they're just tall and in and hot.

[Riley Bray]

Okay.

[Michael McMillan]

I don't know. I guess they all are blonde. They're all like tall blondies. That's all. I know, but, like, I mean, hello. Yeah, I know, but don't. We've been to UFO conventions where people were convinced that you were alien, have alien DNA.

[Riley Bray]

That is a fun game. Walk around the alien convention and see how many times I get called an alien.

[Michael McMillan]

Get called a Nephilim.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

Yeah.

[Riley Bray]

As though. It's like, you know, a really shocking thing that I've never been told before.

[Michael McMillan]

I know. Well, there you go. So what? So we got some confirmation of alien species during wet hot alien summer.

[Riley Bray]

Sort of.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

What do you.

[Michael McMillan]

I mean, this is the thing. Okay. They're talking about it. These people are saying it. Do we have any more proof today than when we started this podcast seven years ago? There's more eight years ago of sort

[Riley Bray]

of the same video, which does add weight. There's been more focus and attention. Yes.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

Proof.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah, I wouldn't say so. I wouldn't say so.

[Michael McMillan]

I mean, we don't know what it is. We don't know what these things, quote, unquote, are, you know, I think we

[Riley Bray]

have, though, what has changed over us doing this podcast is it has been pretty firmly established in, like, mainstream thought that there is something going on.

[Michael McMillan]

I agree.

[Riley Bray]

Like uncalibrated sensors or whatever.

[Michael McMillan]

I agree.

[Riley Bray]

So that's, that is substantial.

[Michael McMillan]

I definitely think that, like, the, the attitude of, like, I think there's, like, there's no longer. There's no longer denying it.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Yeah.

[Riley Bray]

Or like, oh, that's just crazy. Crackpot. Tinfoil hat.

[Michael McMillan]

Exactly.

[Riley Bray]

Owner. Fill in the blank, you know?

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah. Which to me is a form of denial and.

[Riley Bray]

Sure.

[Michael McMillan]

Refusal.

[Riley Bray]

Yes, exactly.

[Michael McMillan]

I definitely think that there's still, I would argue half, if not majority of the population that might believe that there's alien life out there, but have not been able to visit planet Earth because of the physics, astrophysics involved.

[Riley Bray]

Sure.

[Michael McMillan]

You know.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

So I don't know because we've definitely, it's. We've had people on, they were like, yeah, do I believe in aliens? Yes. Do I think they've come here? No.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah. I mean, I think it's pretty common belief now at this point to believe life in the universe. And I think it's fairly a small subset, mainly religiously motivated that would say

[Michael McMillan]

otherwise, who are at the top of the military command and think that these are demons.

[Riley Bray]

We. Oh, well, never mind. Let's throw a death match on the lawn.

[Michael McMillan]

Let's do it. All right, everybody. We'll be right back. We'll be back.

[Riley Bray]

We'll be back.

[Michael McMillan]

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[Michael McMillan]

Okay, Riley, why don't we first let everybody know, if they haven't already known, that our Wet Hot Alien Summer Forever merch by Monica Gallagher is up on the fourth wall shop right now and has been since June. Yes, you did a little gasp. Are you.

[Riley Bray]

No, I'm excited. I want new merch, you guys. We buy the merch too. We don't get.

[Michael McMillan]

We buy the merch. Which you can tell because I'm wearing my classic Wet Hot Alien Summer T shirt. The original, which has, as of today, is now back up on the fourth wall shop as well. So you can get the old school original version by James Mulholland. And you can get Wet Hot Alien Summer Forever, which features a fun cavalcade of alien friends posing for their high school yearbook photos by Monica Gallagher. So head over to the BCC shop on fourth wall dot com. I'll put a link in the show notes and on Instagram and you'll be able to to head on over there and pick up all the stuff that you want to celebrate. Wet Hot Alien Summer. We still got two months left. Okay, I'm excited.

[Riley Bray]

I gave away my classic Wet Hot Alien Summer hoodie and I've missed it ever since. And I'm so excited to replace it.

[Michael McMillan]

I wore out my original one that was like, on our, like, teepublic shop or whatever. And I gotta tell you, the fourth wall shirt is so much better.

[Riley Bray]

Nice upgrade.

[Michael McMillan]

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. All right, I'm going to say let's dive into some L Files. Why? Why keep people away from why they're here. Let's get into some high strangeness. Now, if you have a story that's happened to you that you cannot explain, please write to [e-mail] in the subject line, mark L files, so I can find it easily. If you haven't one that we've never read on the show, Bump it. Bump it up. Send it back to us so I can get it. Get it up to the top of the line. Okay, so there you go. It's time for Wet hot Alien Summer 4L files.

[Riley Bray]

Excellent.

[Michael McMillan]

All right, why don't you kick us off?

[Riley Bray]

This first one begins. Hi, guys. I am a male he. Him truck driver in the Netherlands. So pardon my English. Pause. Yes. That is so cool.

[Michael McMillan]

I know.

[Riley Bray]

Oh, my God. I know.

[Michael McMillan]

It makes me so, so happy.

[Riley Bray]

God, that's awesome.

[Michael McMillan]

Doesn't that rule?

[Riley Bray]

Yes. Just sub truck. Just hurdling down the highways of Europe just listening to your boys.

[Michael McMillan]

This. This listener's name is Johnny, which makes it even better because it's like Johnny, but he's the truck driver.

[Riley Bray]

Wow. All right. I'm already sold. Okay.

[Michael McMillan]

Yoni. Yoni. Because he says, oh, like ocean Yoni. Okay, go on.

[Riley Bray]

Cool. All right, Well, I hope you're listening in the truck right now. Yoni. Okay. I became a listener after a promo on the distractible show and started from the beginning. Nice. I'm now on episode 180 85. So I hope you still do the L Files. I've got two stories. We sure do. We sure do, buddy. And we're glad you're here. And eventually you'll make it to this episode and hear your story.

[Michael McMillan]

Just, just, just a little under 200 episodes ago.

[Riley Bray]

Hey, man. Long hauls. He'll get there. Yes. I've got two stories for you guys. Don't worry. They are short. Both involve my now wife. One is a ghost shadow people story, and one is a UFO story. First, the ghost story. In my student years, I rented a room in an old barn. My now wife also rented a room. We were not dating as of yet. A meet cute.

[Michael McMillan]

You met your future wife in a barn?

[Riley Bray]

Yeah. Paranormal meat. Cute. All right. We had a shared living room, but almost nobody was ever there. At the time I lived there, only three occupants were renting there. Whenever you sat on the couch, the opening to the kitchen was to the left of you. It was a door and then a small bar to the kitchen. So the opening was wide. When I sat in the living room watching tv. I always, always saw shadowy people walking through the kitchen in the corner of my eye. But when I looked, there was nothing. Time and time again, this would happen. I was young and just thought I was imagining things. Years and years later, I was talking to my wife about that house. We started dating after we both moved out due to school change. To my surprise, she casually said one day, yeah, that place was haunted. As separate from each other. We have seen these shadow people, but she had seen them in her room, the room that was directly connected to the kitchen. We now laugh about it, but it still gives me chills.

[Michael McMillan]

Ooh, shadow people in the kitchen creeping into your bedroom. Not for me. Thank you.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah, that's cool though.

[Michael McMillan]

It's pretty active.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah. And, you know, same experience. Didn't discuss it at the time. That's. It's pretty good.

[Michael McMillan]

Also, what are we talking about if no one's talking about the shadow people that everyone's seeing in the old barn apartment?

[Riley Bray]

Get to know your roommates, guys, your barn mates.

[Michael McMillan]

You might end up marrying one of them.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah, your future wife.

[Michael McMillan]

A shadow person's a great icebreaker.

[Riley Bray]

Oh, yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

You know, and then that. That kitchen door isn't gonna be the only thing that's wide open, if you

[Riley Bray]

know what I mean. Imagine if the shadow person had officiated the wedding.

[Michael McMillan]

You could have asked.

[Riley Bray]

You could have asked. That's the shadow person in the kitchen alone. You could have asked.

[Michael McMillan]

It would have just been nice to be asked.

[Riley Bray]

I don't spend five minutes online.

[Michael McMillan]

I don't like speaking. I just like late night snacks. But it would have been nice to

[Riley Bray]

be asked, just to be considered.

[Michael McMillan]

I did used to sit on your chest while you slept.

[Riley Bray]

Now for the UFO story. We live now in a corner house in a quiet neighborhood. One night we were walking the dog together. We weirdly looked up at the same time. Still don't know why. We both saw a matte black seems to absorb light object crossing the sky above us. It was hard to say how high because we can hardly see it, but I think it was just 25 meters above us. It was three matte black balls moving in the same direction. The outer balls in a straight line forward, but the middle one was ping ponging back and forth between the outer balls.

[Michael McMillan]

Whoa.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah. Cool. We only saw it for a few seconds, then looked at each other to confirm what we just saw. We saw the same thing and couldn't explain it. What the hell was that? Hope you liked it. Love this show. I'm A firm believer. I'm an ex roadie, light and sound tech. Dude, this guy is awesome.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah. He's really one of your people now?

[Riley Bray]

Truck driver. I firmly believe we are, as a species, severely limited in our observational capacity. I really think there are many, many things around us that we can't see or hear because they are outside our frequencies. I hope L files still exist. Keep up the amazing work, Yoni. Just say Johnny, but pronounce the O like the O in ocean.

[Michael McMillan]

Johnny.

[Riley Bray]

Johnny. Yoni.

[Michael McMillan]

I love this. This is great. I don't think I've ever heard of three matte black balls moving in the same direction. The outer balls in a straight line forward. This might be lost in translation. What does that mean?

[Riley Bray]

I think, like, two of them are

[Michael McMillan]

straight line, straight forward. Okay.

[Riley Bray]

So like between them going like a sine wave, like, bouncing back.

[Michael McMillan]

Whoa. Okay, that is cool. Weird.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah. Also it's very cool. Seems like he and his wife have some sort of paranormal connection.

[Michael McMillan]

I know. And they have like some telepathic connection to, like, pick up these things together.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah. Dude, I just had a, like, memory flashback flood. Whoa. And very recently, I saw a UFO and I forgot about it and it just came back into my head.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

Right.

[Michael McMillan]

How am I just learning about this now?

[Riley Bray]

Because literally, it happened. I was, like, overwhelmed. Okay, I'm going to tell you the story now. I'm going to do my.

[Michael McMillan]

Everyone, slow down. Take a breath. We've got to personal paranormal history. Update, update, update from Riley Bray. Let's go.

[Riley Bray]

Okay, so recently, Caitlin and I went to Sinespia at Hollywood Forever.

[Michael McMillan]

Yes.

[Riley Bray]

And we saw Moulin Rouge. And traditionally. I don't know if you guys know this. I don't love musicals. I don't know why. It seems like I would. I don't.

[Michael McMillan]

There it is. Interesting. I don't think we've talked about this.

[Riley Bray]

I don't think we have. But I did actually. It did elicit genuine emotion from me and I.

[Michael McMillan]

Have you never seen it before?

[Riley Bray]

No, I've seen it, but seeing it, like on the lawn, like with Caitlin, and, like, there's all these people and, like, feeling people's reaction and, I don't know, something about, like, the beauty and hope and love overtook me with emotion and I got genuinely emotional and it was. It was really nice. And I had this, like, really beautiful moment. And then I looked up in the sky and a singular light, like the. Like a star. Like the brightness of a star was there. And then all of a sudden it got brighter and brighter and brighter and brighter. And then it just, like, zapped away, like, like, gone.

[Michael McMillan]

Whoa.

[Riley Bray]

And, like, it was not. It was not a plane or a helicopter. It was not a drone. I do not know what it was. It was so strange. And even at the time, I was like, oh, my God. And then somehow it just, like, passed. Like, it's just like, I'd like. It just like. I was like, I have to remember this. I even remember at the time thinking, like, I can't believe that just happened. Like. And I kept looking and nothing else happened. And I was like, whoa, I have to remember this. And then I just kind of forgot until I was reading that story just now, and I just remembered that that happened, but it fully happened. And I. It was a very unexplainable light in the sky, and it got really bright.

[Michael McMillan]

This was on. This was fairly recently, right?

[Riley Bray]

Yes. Just happened. Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

Okay, so this. Can I say the date? Because I just looked up when it was. So this would have happened on May 24th?

[Riley Bray]

Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

Between 6:45 and 11:30pm Correct.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah. So it would have been around. It would have been around, like, maybe 8ish.

[Michael McMillan]

So this happened since the last time, in between the last time we recorded. So it's not.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

It's not like you've been sitting, like,

[Riley Bray]

three or four episodes. Yeah, no, no, no. But I did, like, it happened. I was like, that was crazy. And then I tried to. And it just sort of. I hadn't thought about it again until right now. Somehow it just, like.

[Michael McMillan]

Whoa.

[Riley Bray]

I don't know.

[Michael McMillan]

What color was the light?

[Riley Bray]

Like an. Like an amber.

[Michael McMillan]

Ooh.

[Riley Bray]

Like, verging on white. Okay. But like, a warmer color temperature. It wasn't cool. It was warm.

[Michael McMillan]

It sounds similar maybe to that light that I saw in Sedona that one time where I saw it out of the corner of my eye, like a bright light. And I thought it was. At first, we were sitting out in the backyard of our Airbnb, and you could really see over the valley. And a huge light caught my attention up to the left. And I thought it was like a helicopter with its, like, searchlight coming at us, but it wasn't a helicopter. I looked over, and just as I turned, the light shrunk, like, went. The aperture shrunk really quickly.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

And then it looked like it was a star in the night sky, but it was moving around.

[Riley Bray]

Whoa.

[Michael McMillan]

And then it, like, went out directly in front of us over, like, the horizon. And it started doing these, like, little loop de loos and stuff. And then it just.

[Riley Bray]

I Mean, that vanish. Yours is way more substantial than mine. Mine was just a single moment. But.

[Michael McMillan]

I know, but, But. But this sounds like the same kind of vessel in a way. Like, it's a. It's just a light. It didn't have any. We couldn't. I couldn't see any, like, craft to it, you know?

[Riley Bray]

No, not at all. It would have been distant, but it was like. I looked up, it was there. It got. It grew in brightness and size, and then it just. It was gone.

[Michael McMillan]

Do you have any idea how far away it was?

[Riley Bray]

It would have been high. Like. Like low plane high, maybe.

[Michael McMillan]

Okay.

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[Riley Bray]

I don't even know. I mean, depending on the size. It's impossible. I can't. I can't.

[Michael McMillan]

I will say this.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

Just to be skeptical here.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah. Skeptic it up.

[Michael McMillan]

It was Memorial Day weekend. It was a Sunday.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

Like, could have been somebody shooting, like, a Roman candle off of the roof of their building or anything like that.

[Riley Bray]

Wasn't that. Because it started. And you see that a lot in la, and that is a good thing that it could have been, but it very much wasn't because it was, like, very high in the sky. Like, it wasn't like, coming up from the city and it was already there. It started as a point of light and then it got bright and sort

[Michael McMillan]

of just I think you somehow summoned a ufo. I think Mulan Rouge. And being there in your headspace, I

[Riley Bray]

think maybe it feels like.

[Michael McMillan]

I think you had some sort of alchemical thing happening.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

That you summoned a ufo. That there was like a collective consciousness energy happening there.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

Because that shows, like, there's like, some. You know, there's something magical about that movie. You know what I mean? There's definitely something like. It feels like an occult work in a weird way. It does.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah, it does. It does. I feel like I got it more watching it, like, big with a lot of people. I. I legitimately enjoyed it this time.

[Michael McMillan]

The UFO is like. You should listen to hello Dolly.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

Have you heard Camelot? It's just like classic Rogers and Hammerstein stuff. Yeah.

[Riley Bray]

I find Caitlin is like. I've agreed that I'll watch, like, one musical, like a month with her. Although we've been doing more, but I

[Michael McMillan]

think we can't really get into it.

[Riley Bray]

There's something about it that. It just rubs me the wrong way.

[Michael McMillan]

Well, you know, I was on a musical TV show for four seasons. I know you might like. Did you ever. It's okay to say no. Did you ever, like, watch Crazy Ex

[Riley Bray]

Girlfriend I didn't because I was scared. Because of my previous distaste for musicals.

[Michael McMillan]

I can't believe I'm admitting I think you might like it because it's just

[Riley Bray]

every episode of True Blood.

[Michael McMillan]

Thank you. I think you might like Crazy Ex Girlfriend because the songs are hilarious.

[Riley Bray]

I think maybe now's the time. I think I've finally opened my mind to musicals.

[Michael McMillan]

And lots of it's, you know, cuz Moulin Rouge is a jukebox musical. Jukebox musical. So there. It's not original stuff, but like.

[Riley Bray]

Right.

[Michael McMillan]

Crazy X was great because it was like all sorts of types of genres and some were a little sound alikey, but. But all original songs. There's like 105 or 106 original songs over the course of that show.

[Riley Bray]

Amazing.

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[Riley Bray]

I mean that's. That alone is amazing. All right, it's happening. I'm gonna do it.

[Michael McMillan]

I think you'd love it too, because it's also just like. It talks. It's very fun and it like, it, it. It starts to like. I don't know how I made this. Turned your UFO story into a pitch for Crazy Ex Girlfriend. But I think you, I think you like it fun. And it's like, Will.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah. Caitlyn loves it. She's. She's seen it all. She's like so good. And she's like, I can't. She's makes fun of me that I haven't watched it.

[Michael McMillan]

I mean, what if. What musical should I tell you to watch?

[Riley Bray]

I don't. You know what? This one also completely out of the blue, but she, she's like, you have to, you have to see Funny Girl.

[Michael McMillan]

Funny Girl is great, dude.

[Riley Bray]

It's really good. I mean, this is like guy discovers obvious thing. But I was like, God damn. Barbra Streisand is a amazing talent.

[Michael McMillan]

Have you ever seen the Sound of Music?

[Riley Bray]

No.

[Michael McMillan]

Oh my God, you would love it. It's like, it's the musical about. It's a big you to Nazis.

[Riley Bray]

I know, I know, I know all about it.

[Michael McMillan]

The Sound of Music is great.

[Riley Bray]

All right.

[Michael McMillan]

There's also just like some of this, especially the classic stuff. There's so much amazing, just like filmmaking involved in it too. Yeah, beautiful 70 millimeter, like Panavision, gorgeous shots of things.

[Riley Bray]

That's why this is so confusing to everyone, because it's all the things that I like, but for some reason when they come together, I go, oh, not for me.

[Michael McMillan]

Listen, you gotta let go of the cringe factor.

[Riley Bray]

I guess that is. I think I Think that's part of it. Maybe that comes with age and wisdom. Maybe this is a new spin off podcast where you and Caitlin just make me watch musicals until I love them.

[Michael McMillan]

I mean, honestly, I would love that. I'm gonna put together a list for you.

[Riley Bray]

Okay.

[Michael McMillan]

I will say.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

You know, one of my all time favorites is obviously west side, like west side Story, the original. But Spielberg's website story is pretty good too.

[Riley Bray]

Huh? Okay.

[Michael McMillan]

I mean, the original is like really lovely and it's a little like, corny by today's standards, but it's just shot so well. Some really cool stuff.

[Riley Bray]

I was in musicals in high school, like fully theater kid in music.

[Michael McMillan]

That's why I'm confused.

[Riley Bray]

I know it's confusing. I, I, you know, I, I've become comfortable with the contradiction. I don't know.

[Michael McMillan]

Okay. All right, well, I'm loving.

[Riley Bray]

I didn't mean to completely hijack this episode into.

[Michael McMillan]

Are you kidding me? This is the best thing that could have happened.

[Riley Bray]

Fair enough.

[Michael McMillan]

All right.

[Riley Bray]

Fair enough.

[Michael McMillan]

Here. Thank you, Jordy.

[Riley Bray]

Yes.

[Michael McMillan]

All right, Michael and Riley, long, long time listener here. Years ago, at the onset of the pandemic, I sent you an L file that you read on your show. Not sure if you remember me, but I called myself Granny from Kentucky. My story happened almost 40 years ago and I won't go completely over it, but it involves lights that appeared one night in front of my in my front yard that were pulsating on and off for about a 45 minute period of time. Now, I remember every Granny from Kentucky that I've ever met, so I do recall this. At the time, I had only two sons, a five year old and a two year old, and my husband was working the night shift. My five year old witnessed everything and remembers the night vividly and the lights as well. Also, when it first appeared in the yard, my dog had run around from the backyard and was barking loudly at the light. Almost as quickly as he started barking, he tucked his tail and ran back in the backyard. So at least I know two others had seen what I was seeing. When you read my story, you believed it sounded extraterrestrial. I had always felt it was extraterrestrial in nature. But later, after sending my story to you, I had a reading with Adela Levine and the Medium. She actually used it on her podcast, the House medium, in her Father 41823 episode. And she agreed that what she saw looked also like an alien visit. I told her how I kept looking back and forth from my window to my digital clock on the side table while waiting for my parents to get to my house after calling them. I'm not sure how long I was doing this back and forth motion from the window to the clock, from the window to the clock. But I continued doing so for probably 30 to 40, 40 minutes. Then the last time I looked back at the clock and then returned my vision to the window, the light was gone. Vanished like it had never been there in the first place. Just at the moment as my parents car was topping the hill to my house. A dayla later told me during my reading that the aliens were interested in my children and somehow my intuition was telling me to look back at the clock every few minutes to break the spell that they were trying to place on me. To sort of hypnotize me I suppose. Wow, this got juicy. Yeah, I suppose. I suppose so that they could see my children or perhaps take my children. I'm not sure. My mother's instinct kicked in to protect my babies I guess. After my reading with the dala, I was talking to my adult son who is now 42 years old and he told me of strange thing that had happened a little while ago with him. He lives about two hours north of me near Lexington, Kentucky. And one weekend he was driving back home late one night with his wife and two young babies. They were on a two lane country road at the time and it was very very late. He was driving and his wife was just scrolling on her phone or reading something. Distracted but awake. To the left of his car he noticed a light just above the trees that seemed to be following along the side of his car. At first he didn't think much of it, but as he kept driving he noticed the light was following along beside him. He couldn't make out if it was some kind of craft. He could just see the light in the darkness. It was just above the tree line. Finally his wife noticed the light as well and they were both watching it. She quickly got her phone and was going to take a video, but as she was getting her phone set up to take the video, the light simply disappeared. Just as it had happened years ago in my yard. We both wondered immediately if it was not the same entity or alien or whatever the heck it was so many years later still trying to contact him. By the way, he and I are both very intuitive and have both had many occurrences in our lifetime with the supernatural. I still don't know what it was 40 years ago or what it was a few years ago. I just know I'm not interested in a Meeting from across galaxies.

[Riley Bray]

Amazing.

[Michael McMillan]

And definitely don't want anyone bothering my children or my grandchildren. That's when this mama bear will get less than nice. Would love your thoughts on this. Have enjoyed listening to your podcast for ages. Please keep the good stuff coming. Granny in Kentucky. I love this granny. Great update and great additional thing. I don't know, you know, my instinct whenever I hear these stories of like the lights traveling behind trees alongside, I, I, I hate to be this guy, but sometimes I'm like, it could be the moon. You know, I know people know what the moon looks like, but the fact that this thing just vanished.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

Leads me to think otherwise. I'd like to know, like I asked you, Riley, what color was the light? You know, if there were any other weird phenomenon happening at the time? Like is the radio staticky? Is there anything car acting? The phone, the, the thing, the, that it seemed to sense that the phone was coming out is very interesting.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah. Like trickster.

[Michael McMillan]

I mean, all I can say, Granny, is that in these types of stories that we have looked at over the years, especially with people who have had contact or had some form of abduction. Not that, not saying that that's what you have. It does seem to recur throughout life on and off. And you mentioned that you and your son are both sensitive and I think sometimes that sensitivity can go beyond just like ESP and delve more into the supernatural. Like you said, like ghosts as well as aliens as well as maybe some of this cryptid stu. Because yeah, I, I've, I'm beginning to, to form the thought that these all are part of the same spirit realm that is like the equivalent to the fairy realm, you know, that they all, they're all aspects of this other dimension. That, that, that, that has been the basic stories overlapping stuff, you know, for that have been the basis of stories for all of humans, you know, human, human existence. So I don't know, but what do you think, Riley?

[Riley Bray]

I mean, I think it sounds like all connected. And exactly what you're saying is like this, there's something in your family. There's you are somehow seeing a little bit through the veil, whatever that may be. And then also just the mental image of Granny to Kentucky just drop kicking an alien gray is just love it. Amazing.

[Michael McMillan]

Mama bear just stringing it by its neck and swinging it around.

[Riley Bray]

I don't think so.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah, like you're breaking a chicken's neck.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah, yeah, it's a good, it's a good mental image. So. But I mean, yeah, I mean that's a It's a great story. You know, there's something, something there.

[Michael McMillan]

Take it at face value. Just, I mean, hey, my son and I see these things. That's all I know. Accept it on that level, you know, doesn't mean you have to know exactly what it is.

[Riley Bray]

Right?

[Michael McMillan]

All right, we're going to take a quick break. When we come back, we have a little bit more to dive into.

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[Riley Bray]

Now I was looking for fun ways to tell you that Mint's offer of unlimited Premium Wireless for $15 a month is back. So I thought it would be fun if we made $15 bills, but it turns out that's very illegal. So there goes my big idea for the commercial. Give it a [e-mail] switch upfront payment

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[Riley Bray]

I also like that that last one has the Adela.

[Michael McMillan]

I know.

[Riley Bray]

We're already there. The Adela. We're back. That's cool. It's another thing that's cool like thinking about the podcast existing in a truck in the Netherlands or just like granny from Kentucky having a reading with Adela working out multi generational paranormal happenings. That is cool.

[Michael McMillan]

I love Pretty cool.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah. Hearing about sort of how the, the tentacles of this show, you know, expand out into the real world.

[Michael McMillan]

Me too.

[Riley Bray]

That's really.

[Michael McMillan]

Me too.

[Riley Bray]

It's very satisfying, guys.

[Michael McMillan]

I love it.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

All right, we got something from Tyler. Why don't you read this file from Tyler?

[Riley Bray]

All righty. Hey, BCC boys. And happy belated birthday to Bigfoot. Also, shame on those young men not wanting to learn about Dogman.

[Michael McMillan]

This obviously was written around the time we did our Bigfoot birthday bash live show, right?

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

Of course.

[Riley Bray]

Yes. Yeah. Come on, Gen Z. Love the show and the stories you share. I had one recently that just won't leave my mind. I've been listening to a lot of UFO and alien episodes on my phone to let my imagination run a little too much with episodes of lucid dreaming

[Michael McMillan]

and am prone to let my imagination.

[Riley Bray]

Oh, I thought I was correcting. Yeah, yeah, that makes more sense. I thought I was correcting a typo. We're gonna roll back, guys.

[Michael McMillan]

I mean, there are sometimes these are

[Riley Bray]

live reads and sometimes you just sort of have to assume what people are saying. But this one was correct.

[Michael McMillan]

You're doing great.

[Riley Bray]

I don't know exactly what he was saying.

[Michael McMillan]

I'm just catching. I'm just catching it in real time.

[Riley Bray]

He's prone to let my imagination run a little too much. I'm prone to let my editing run a little too much with episodes of lucid dreaming and or sleep paralysis. However, one night I dreamt I was in a house with many of my friends and family when we all heard some odd noises in the backyard. I went to the sliding door and saw some lights. Then at the fence line, I saw an alien gray, looking towards the house.

[Michael McMillan]

Shut up.

[Riley Bray]

It noticed me and quickly ducked down. I ran back to the living room and screamed. Either it's a trick or treater. I think I saw an alien. But everyone was frozen in place looking at me. I ran to the front door and heard crashing noises at the side of the house. While walking around the corner, I saw five more gray aliens walking. See that says working. Walking towards together.

[Michael McMillan]

Working together.

[Riley Bray]

He doesn't know what he's saying.

[Michael McMillan]

Stop overthinking it, Tyler.

[Riley Bray]

Stepping on your words. I'm gonna trust you from here on out. Whatever is on the page, we're working

[Michael McMillan]

out together to read this letter. They're working together to scale the side of the house.

[Riley Bray]

Tyler saw five more gray aliens working together to scale the side of the house. Back in the letter. I quickly woke up but stayed in place. I felt my heart racing and did my breathing techniques to ground myself in reality. But before I could sit up, I heard God damn footsteps in my house. It was three short steps that sounded like small wet feet slapping on the wood tile.

[Michael McMillan]

No, thank you. That is such a terrifying.

[Riley Bray]

That is a good use of language right there. Small wet feet slapping on the wood tile. I can hear that in my mind.

[Michael McMillan]

As our friend Betsy Sedaro would say, ew.

[Riley Bray]

As if you just got out of a pool. I waited, then heard it step two more times and heard the door lock. I calmly, calmly got up to see out at my window, making sure it wasn't my roommate but her car was not there. I initially was going to chalk this up to sleep browses, but my cats had reacted to the noise, calling out to me and running to me with their tails down and staring at the slightly closed door. I calmly reassured them and led the way to the living room. I didn't see anything out of the ordinary or see any footprints. Again, not sure if it was real or not. I am an EMT working with nurses on critical care ambulances. Badass. And have been working 14 hour shifts with only two days off. Wow. So my fatigue has been more consistent lately. Thank you for listening and thank you for all the great podcasts. Hopefully I will be buying merch soon. Tyler O. Wow. Oh, man, that's so descriptive. The small wet feet.

[Michael McMillan]

I don't know. It's really creepy to have a dream of an alien and then have something like that that happen and then your cats react.

[Riley Bray]

It's. It's almost scarier than just having the alien thing. The dream layer puts it in a whole other weirder territory where you can't tell where one ends and one begins, you know?

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And as I said, like, we're getting into some dream territory here with this stuff. But like, what if you really were seeing alien gray scale your house? And that's part of like they drop you off and then your mind, your memory is getting all wiped and you're hearing them leave your house. I thought about that, like that night that I saw that shadow at the window. I'm like, what if I was being dropped off? You know, what if. What if that was after they had.

[Riley Bray]

That gave me chills, got me.

[Michael McMillan]

And I don't remember anything that happened before. I just remember the drop off.

[Riley Bray]

Just catch that little bit. Yeah. Also the job too is like, that's a super intense job and like you're around real trauma all the time. You know, I just feel like being in that so much. Like, that must. That must like, thin the veil a bit, you know, just to see the visceral reality of human life.

[Michael McMillan]

Well, and then also, like, the lack of sleep kind of puts you in a lucid state of mind to where you're like, you know, you're in an altered state of consciousness.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

I don't know. I mean, we could chalk it up to your imagination.

[Riley Bray]

I'm chalking it up. The tiny wet feet, personally.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

That tiny wet feet gives me chills.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

Yes, Tyler. Okay. And go get your merch at the BCC shop on 4th wall. Hello, BCC boys. My name is Aaron and I am an intuitive medium from Toronto, Canada. Canadian flag emoji. I've been listening to you boys for years now and I figured it's about damn time I send you my stories. Wow, some harsh language for a Canadian. I've had a lot of unexplainable experiences that have happened to me and all I all that I feel have led me to the work I am fortunate enough to do today. Mediumship. I'm also currently on maternity leave and waiting for this little monster to come out. Any day now. We are 40 weeks today. Oh boy. So by the time and if you decide to read this, it will be a blessed I will be a blessed and proud mama to a baby boy. Well, congratulations.

[Riley Bray]

Congratulations.

[Michael McMillan]

And I don't know if this letter was from years ago or not, so maybe you have a baby. A boy toddler now. Okay, here we go. I've heard you talk about dreams on the podcast a few times and wanted to share some wild dreams that I've had going way back to when I was probably 15 or 16. I had been trying to get myself to astral travel. I was that weird kid into all the high strangeness. I was doing various techniques I had read online but nothing seemed to be working. Until one night I must have been in that in between dream and awake state. But I swear to God something I did worked or the universe heard me because I. I could feel myself leave my body. I had one of those beds where there was a drawer underneath it. I remember feeling myself sink down from my bed, seeing that I was in the drawer and then coming out of it floated out of my room and down the stairs to the front door. I then remember freaking myself out and I started my startled myself awake when I was back in my body. That experience was wild and nothing like that has happened since. That's really strange because usually when you hear about out of body experiences, it's people floating up and looking down on themselves. But I like that you dropped out of your body and you were. You could see that you were inside your trundle bed. Yeah, really spooky. Fast forward years and years later. I'm in my 20s trying to dip my feet into the world of mediumship and wanting to get connect more to my spirit guides. I had a lucid dream where I was stopped mid dream and looked at this young man standing next to me and asked are you my spirit guide? This man looked me dead in the eye, expressionless and said yes and then just walked away.

[Riley Bray]

Typical.

[Michael McMillan]

I remember having more questions for him and was upset. He would just walk away like that. Haha. Then the dream resumed. I was not in control. And then. And that was that. That man also. This man also weirdly had blonde hair and blue eyes. Nordic anybody? I had another lucid dream when I met my partner, now husband. And the most important thing that stood out to me was how in the dream I was told he had passed away by these people after coming out of this revolving door. They told me not to worry and I would see him again soon. I woke myself up in tears. I have never been woken up by a dream to the point of being in tears. It was. It felt so real. I somehow managed to go back to sleep and the dream resumed. How many times does that happen? I love that when a dream picks up after you wake up the best.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

In the dream there was my partner and the next thing I know we were both naked TMI and walked into a giant gold pool of water. And the dream ends. The both of us have always felt a strong connection to one another that seems to go beyond this world. When we first met, we immediately felt like we had known each other a lot longer. Possible past life connection. Was that dream a glimpse into how we came into this world. Other dreams I've had include a dream where my friend told me told me he and his partner had purchased a home together. A week later, lo and behold, they texted me saying that they bought a house. Previously, they had never mentioned to me or our friend group that they were looking at houses.

[Riley Bray]

Cool.

[Michael McMillan]

My other premonition dream was predicting when my husband would propose. I'll admit I wasn't exactly right, but it was pretty close. And the dream? My dad asked me when he was going to propose and he said October 1st. He proposed September 21st, the last weekend before October 21st. And when I told him about the dream after the proposal, he freaked out a little and said that he had originally planned for October. But our neighbor convinced my husband to propose earlier on his boat before he stored it away for the fall winter. And also, as my neighbor said, why wait? Wild, wild things real quickly. Not a dream story, but wanted to mention after hearing the episode with Ken Bogle. Hopefully this isn't too long. When we were trying to conceive, I'd pull tarot cards out and ask about pregnancy when it could happen. Each time without fail, I would pull the Son of Cups. Well, the Son of Cups is a water sign. My baby is going to be a March baby so they will be a water sign. I've since tried to ask when they're going to come, but I don't think I meant to know because I think that cards keep joking with me. This is fascinating because we were talking about this stuff over on the other side with Michael Hughes. So, Michael, when you talk about the cards having their own consciousness, I completely agree. This is great because you're also having a premonition writing this letter, Aaron, because you have not heard that episode yet. Because I got this before that episode aired. Yeah. Those are my dream stories. What's your take on them? I don't often have dreams like this, and if you're wondering, I haven't had many dreams while pregnant. Actually, my husband has seen has been having all the intense baby dreams. Apparently our son already thinks I'm not cool enough to share dreams with.

[Riley Bray]

Hahaha.

[Michael McMillan]

Anyway, thank you so much. I truly love all your work and I love the podcast and it's also been really amazing to see it grow from the sidelines. Your hard work does not go unnoticed. Thank you for everything. Heart emoji, smiley face emoji. All the best. Aaron. Aaron, what a lovely letter. And yeah, I think, yeah, you got the juice. That's all there is to it.

[Riley Bray]

That's pretty much all there is to it.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah, you got it. You got it.

[Riley Bray]

You're pre remembering things that haven't happened yet. You're.

[Michael McMillan]

Yep.

[Riley Bray]

You're doing exactly what you were meant to do.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah, I think that kid will get the gift as well.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah, seems like it.

[Michael McMillan]

I have a feeling. Okay, why don't we do this live? We got time. Let's read this last. Let's read this last one. Line it up. It's great. Great letter, Aaron. You got the touch. I love the tarot card stuff. We're totally in sync with that. And if you haven't listened to the Michael Hughes episode over on bcc, the Other side, you should definitely go listen to it because it was a really fun interview with him.

[Riley Bray]

I love the, like, intentionality and the mindfulness too, of like, working on that, like, noting, like, oh, I have something's here. And then like, kind of like, like probing your dreams for a spirit guide and all that kind of stuff. Just like, really looking at it. It's, it's. It's great.

[Michael McMillan]

Also, it feels like a spirit guide thing. Did you just be like, yep, walk away fully.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah. See you in 40 years.

[Michael McMillan]

I work on my time, not yours.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah, exactly. All right, well, this one's on our time. And it begins.

[Michael McMillan]

Hello.

[Riley Bray]

I'm fairly new to your podcast. I've enjoyed all the episodes I've listened to this far. Great. I heard you call out for dream submissions. And while this did happen in a dream, it was actually several episodes during the same night. I awoke after each episode of the dream and felt each time that I had not really been asleep, but rather experiencing something more real than what is commonly accepted as reality. This dream was so powerful that I could think of little else for weeks, and I still remember it very clearly. This dream took place in February of 2018. Wow. I do not share this lightly, as I'm aware ridicule often awaits those who share these types of encounters. But I feel it was so amazing that I must share.

[Michael McMillan]

Okay, well, now I'm. I'm. I'm all goosed up. I'm excited.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah. All right, here we go. I wrote down the experience dream the next morning. Here it is. I had a wild dream last night that seemed to last the whole night long. I kept waking up and remembering the last part of it. An alien picked me up and flew with me. Faster and faster. Our speed seemed impossible, especially since we were not in a craft. I didn't get a real good look at the alien, but got the impression that it was blue, with oddly bent arms and had wings.

[Michael McMillan]

Ooh, an avian.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah. I didn't feel happy or upset by the alien, just vaguely perplexed. First we whooshed over the land and then out into space. Faster and faster at dizzying speed. Stars whizzed by.

[Michael McMillan]

I don't know why, but this made me feel like. This is like a. Like an adventure that would happen in a Dr. Seuss book.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah. Faster and faster at dizzying speed. The alien flies me by land and by seas. That's not quite a rhyme. That's sort of a slam.

[Michael McMillan]

Close. Good enough.

[Riley Bray]

You know, it's on the off the cuff. We'll work on it. Back to the dream. We traveled very far, probably another galaxy. The alien slowed as we reached a very odd looking planetary system. Right next to an inhabited planet was a deconstructed sun. Those were the words that popped into my head. This is the only time I've remembered words just popping into my head during a dream. Usually my dreams don't have this level of detail, though they are often vivid. It was beautiful, yet terrifying and made me feel kind of sad. I looked at the core of the sun. It looked like the core of the sun had been scooped out and the shell had been cut into fanciful scroll work. I could see the inside of the shell. This is cool. And it looked like great tongues of flame licking up. Then we flew down to the planet. It was gorgeous, but very alien.

[Michael McMillan]

Sounds like very biblical in a weird way.

[Riley Bray]

That. That does. Yeah. Like the script on the husk of

[Michael McMillan]

the great tongues of flame.

[Riley Bray]

Deconstructed sun. It also sounds like the COVID of like an Alice in Chains album. The cities were. The cities were sapphire blue with circle windows shining gold and orange out into the twilight. Great hot and cold color contrast. These aliens know how to decorate a home. They. That was me. They. The dwellings looked molded out of coral or something living. Then I woke up. The next part of the dream. I realized the alien was communicating with me telepathically. It told me that he was a member of a truly ancient species. One of the first in the whole universe.

[Michael McMillan]

Cool.

[Riley Bray]

Gender unknown, perhaps irrelevant, but we'll continue to refer to them as he. As. This is direct from my journal. He said his race had moved on long ago. And what I was experiencing of him was like a shadow of a shadow. He was the last of his kind with enough energy to communicate with a flesh and blood being. He'd been given the Met. The mission to contact me. And I saw him standing in the center of the deconstructed sun, sucking in energy to maintain his link with me. This is all like, so cool.

[Michael McMillan]

This all should be a book. Like, I know

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

this.

[Riley Bray]

This is. Yeah, yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

Maybe your calling is some like, high sci fi. I love it.

[Riley Bray]

It is. Yeah. It's like. It is like, verging on sort of like religious almost like it's. Yeah. Okay. It's so gone. I realized that eons ago, his people had deconstructed this sun to power their world and projects. Okay, look at this. The backstory. We have a whole civil.

[Michael McMillan]

It's like a Dyson. It sounds like a Dyson sphere.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah. It was a sight to see. I got the impression that he needed me to find an artifact they had lost billions of years ago. They had searched the galaxies and narrowed it down to Earth, possibly a nearby planet. I'm not sure if the artifact was a real 3D thing or some sort of energy nodule. They needed it to accomplish some sort of grand goal. They knew that my energetic configuration was such that I would be able to hear and heed their message. This all felt so real. We got plot devices. This is a trilogy. Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

I can see it all really well. It's well written.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

Also, like, when I try to write down my dreams, I'm like, bug bit me. Then a pie fell on my head. Also, Julia Roberts was there. Like, I don't.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah, question mark.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah, I don't. I don't have this level of, like, comprehension that I guess the writers saying,

[Riley Bray]

though, this was like, particularly, like. Yeah, it really stood out. Stuck, stuck, stuck with him all this time. Okay, so the letter wraps up here. That is a transcript of what I wrote in my journal, word for word, except for the parts in parentheses, minor for clarifications. I cannot emphasize enough how much realer than real this felt, and I harbor a deep longing to help these beings.

[Michael McMillan]

Whoa.

[Riley Bray]

I am on the autism spectrum and very protective of my personal space, especially online. I'm happy for you to share my dream experience on your podcast, but do not share any personal details like my email. Of course. We. If you do share this on your podcast, please give a shout out to all of us on the spectrum. Shout out. Shout out, indeed. It's not living in NT neurotypical land.

[Michael McMillan]

Easy living. Sorry to be this guy continually.

[Riley Bray]

No, that's good. It's not easy living in NT neurotypical land. And we are amazing folks if you have the patience to get to know us. Thanks, pcc, for all you do, Nick. Ain't that the truth? Nick, man. Nick, you should. You should write this.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah, you should write it. Write a story. Like, maybe the way to help these people is by writing the story. And even if you write it as a work of fiction, it can all be inspired by this experience that felt real to you. And, like, I get it. Like, when I had that dream a couple years ago where I felt like I had contacted a spirit guide, it did feel very, very real, as much as dreamlike as it was. So I don't know, maybe you're taught. Maybe you're tapping into something here. Regardless. Like, you're. You have such a cool brain. And I would just keep writing about this. Yeah. And I would be surprised if you

[Riley Bray]

wrote about it about it, too.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah. Draw, right. Create about it, and then maybe maybe you'll have more dreams like this. You know what I mean? I also could see you are the artifact, Nick.

[Riley Bray]

That's what I'm saying. Like, it's like this meta story where it's like, you think the story is like, this story that's being written, but the story is actually about that story being written, and that is the.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

So I. I don't know. This is such a cool. Your descriptions are really cool. I think you should write it, draw it. Whatever you do, just tell this, like, build, build from here. You know what I mean?

[Riley Bray]

Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

Use Your imagination and see where it takes you.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

And then see if you get more dream messages. It was really cool. I love it.

[Riley Bray]

So visual, that one. I really can see, see it.

[Michael McMillan]

I would love it if a blue alien took me to a cool coral city landscape and showed me a layer like Dyson Sphere, you know?

[Riley Bray]

Yeah. Help us.

[Michael McMillan]

Help us tell our story.

[Riley Bray]

The artifact. Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

Really cool. I love it. I love the image of the alien in the middle of the sun.

[Riley Bray]

That's the one. Yeah.

[Michael McMillan]

Like contacting him telepathically. It's so cool. Great stuff. Lots of dreams, astral projection and some UFOs. Love it all, guys.

[Riley Bray]

Great letters. I love the letters.

[Michael McMillan]

Me too. I do, too. All right, well, let's head over to Not. Excuse me. Collector's corner. I've kind of been like. I was hosting our friend of the show, Dave. Dave. Keith was in town, so. Oh, I'll say it. It's a little late in the summer to be seeing this, but I had a hell of a time with the Mandalorian and Grogu. It was a super fun movie. It's not the deepest Star wars movie ever, but lots of alien creatures in it. Very old school. Jim Henson puppet work in it as well. I loved it. You know, it was just a very good time. So if it's 4th of July weekend and you still haven't seen Mandalorian and Grogu, go see it at the theater. It's just a really fun popcorn flick. And I'll tell you what, Grogu, man is a movie star. It's. Yeah, it's just the cutest. There's like a 20 minute section in the middle of the movie that's just like a little thing that a little, like, task Grogu is off doing. And it's just. It's so fun and so charming.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah, it's great. It seems like that's being very well received and it's pretty much people are saying. What you're saying is just like. It just makes you feel good.

[Michael McMillan]

It's just a good time at the movies. Like. Yeah, it's just enjoyable. You know what I mean? And it is. It's pretty basic. Like, it's not that deep. It doesn't push a lot of the canon forward, which I'm personally okay with. I also got to see something that I've always wanted to see as a Star wars fan since I was a kid. We got to. We get to go to the Hutt home world now, Hutta, and it doesn't disappoint and the.

[Riley Bray]

The doesn't the dude from the bear played Job of the Hutts?

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah, he plays Rod of the Hut. Yes. Rad of the Hut was introduced as a baby way back in the Clone wars cartoon in, like, 2006. Seven, eight. Whenever that was 2008, I want to say. And now this is the point in the timeline where he's all grossed up and he plays the reluctant son of. It's a noir. It's a, you know, it's a sci fi fantasy noir story. So it's, like, cool. There's some fun little twists and turns of, like, the little caper that they're on. But yeah, he plays the son of Jabba the Hut, who doesn't really want to. He doesn't really want his father's legacy, which is also a fun.

[Riley Bray]

Okay. He's got some moral. Moral conflict.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah, yeah. Which is cool, you know?

[Riley Bray]

Yeah. It's also, like, java like.

[Michael McMillan]

Like, he's java like, but he's jacked.

[Riley Bray]

Oh, so he's like a hot.

[Michael McMillan]

He's a muscular hut. Yeah, he's like a hut with a six pack. But he's still a big heav slug. You know, he's still.

[Riley Bray]

Gotcha.

[Michael McMillan]

He's still round in slug like, but he does have pecs. And watching his carbs. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Now I understand the beefing up.

[Riley Bray]

Okay, got it.

[Michael McMillan]

It's very fun. It's great. So go. Go walk. Go see it. If you've been holding out. It's a good time. It's a good time in the theater and, like, a good. A little intense for the kids, a little bit. Maybe a little scary. But I would say seven and up. Six, seven and up. You're having a blast. Good family.

[Riley Bray]

Do a little solo movie and see that. I could use a little joy and whimsy.

[Michael McMillan]

And I would say, Riley, go now as we're recording this, because it's still on imax and it looks beautiful on imax. There's just some, like, really big kind of, like, simple shots of, like, him flying in the cockpit and, like, emphasizing, like, the space of the cockpit and space outside of the. You know, it's just like. It's like, really. I don't know, it's very immersive in that way. I really like it.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah. Cool. Cool.

[Michael McMillan]

Yeah. And you don't need to be all caught up with the show to heard that too.

[Riley Bray]

You can just. You can just.

[Michael McMillan]

You can just jump right in. You're good. Yeah. If you've seen a basic level of understanding of Star Wars.

[Riley Bray]

Guys, go to the movies. If you can go to the movies, go to the movies. It's such a great.

[Michael McMillan]

I know, I love going.

[Riley Bray]

So fun.

[Michael McMillan]

Have you seen AMC do the A Lister thing? At AMC, it's 26, 27 bucks a month. You can see up to four movies a week.

[Riley Bray]

I always get value out of it. It's the best.

[Michael McMillan]

If you go to one IMAX movie that month, you've paid for it.

[Riley Bray]

Yeah, I wish they were a sponsor. They're not guys.

[Michael McMillan]

I know, but I'm just saying I've been using it a lot and it's, it's.

[Riley Bray]

I use my. It's the best, you know, I saw. Did you see Obsession yet?

[Michael McMillan]

No, but I've only heard great things about it.

[Riley Bray]

So.

[Michael McMillan]

Good.

[Riley Bray]

And it's cool to see a young filmmaker like and like, you know, kind of like small, medium sized budget and just knock it out of the park on like new ip. I just like. Yeah, makes me happy. I love seeing that.

[Michael McMillan]

Great.

[Riley Bray]

Love seeing that.

[Michael McMillan]

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