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BiggerPockets Money Podcast
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Intermediate to advanced personal finance strategies for people serious about the FIRE (financial independence retire early) movement—not just dreaming about it.
Tune in on Tuesdays and Fridays for new BiggerPockets Money episodes with your hosts, Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench! Or visit BiggerPocketsMoney.com with additional resources.
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Net Worth By Age In 2025 (Are You Above Average?)
Oct 700:39:51Summary readyLet's talk about the average net worth by every age, and how to make sure you save and invest enough money to stay on track. In this episode of the BiggerPockets Money podcast, Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench break down actual data to reveal the net worth benchmarks for the median, top 10%, top 5%, and top 1% of every age. If that isn’t enough they then highlight specific strategies that work at each age to hit those benchmarks—from aggressive wealth-building tactics in your 20s and 30s to business ownership and real estate scaling in your 40s, to preservation strategies in your 50s and 60s. Whether you're behind and need to catch up or ahead and want to optimize, this episode gives you the roadmap for your decade so you can hit your financial independence goals. 00:00 Net Worth by Age - Are You on Track? 01:09 Defining Net Worth and FIRE Portfolio 02:44 Analyzing Net Worth by Age 03:58 Key Takeaways from Net Worth Data 12:03 How to Be in The Top 1-10% in Your 20s 16:17 How to Be in The Top 1-10% in Your 30s 21:17 How to Be in The Top 1-10% in Your 40s 25:22 How to Be in The Top 1-10% in Your 50s 30:51 How to Be in The Top 1-10% in Your 60s Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
SummaryShould You Keep or Sell Your House? (Best Choice for FIRE)
Oct 300:43:01Summary readyShould you sell your house right now or turn it into a rental property? In this episode of the BiggerPockets Money podcast, hosts Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench dive deep into one of the biggest financial decisions you'll ever make with their guest Sean. He is sitting on serious equity but isn't sure what his next move should be. We break down his entire financial situation using a custom spreadsheet model that analyzes net worth, mortgage rates, rental income potential, cash flow projections, and long-term wealth building strategies. This isn't just theory—we're crunching real numbers to show you exactly how to think through this decision. We examine market conditions, tax implications, opportunity costs, and the hidden expenses most people forget when they become landlords. Whether you're dealing with a primary residence, investment property, or house hack situation, this episode gives you a replicable decision-making process you can use for your own real estate choices. By the end of this episode, you'll understand the financial trade-offs between liquidity and long-term appreciation, how to calculate true rental yields, and when holding onto property actually destroys wealth instead of building it. If you're facing a similar decision or planning your real estate exit strategy, this is the most comprehensive breakdown you'll find anywhere. 00:00 Should You Sell or Keep Your House? 01:17 Financial Overview: Net Worth, Income & Equity 02:33 Mortgage Rate Analysis and Current Housing Market Conditions 03:07 Rental Property Cash Flow Calculator 13:41 Hidden Rental Property Expenses and Long-Term Investment Returns 19:30 How Selling vs Renting Impacts Your Cash Flow and Net Worth 21:11 Net Worth Projections: Sell Now vs Hold 5, 10, 20 Years 23:27 Rental Property Cash Flow vs Home Sale Proceeds Analysis 24:29 Best Time to Sell Your House 26:26 Which Option Builds More Wealth? 31:14 Final Verdict: Should You Sell Your House Now? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
SummaryFI at 44 AFTER Taking a Year Off at 31
Sep 3000:38:16Summary readyWhat if you could take a year off at 31 and still retire early? Alex Morales, also known as Girl Chasing Wealth, is doing exactly that. In this BiggerPockets Money episode, she sits down with Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench to reveal how she's funding a year-long sabbatical while staying on track to achieve financial independence by 44, all on a median salary in a high-cost-of-living area. Alex's journey proves you don't need a six-figure income or to live in a low-cost city to make FIRE work—you just need the right strategies. Alex shares her unconventional approach to building wealth, including managing roommates to slash housing costs, ruthlessly cutting expenses that don't align with her values, and building side income streams for flexibility. But this isn't just about saving money—it's about designing a life that lets you take meaningful breaks without derailing your financial goals. Whether you're burned out, curious about sabbaticals, or convinced early retirement requires constant hustle, this conversation will change how you think about the path to financial freedom. This Episode Covers: How to calculate if you can afford a career break without ruining your FIRE timeline The exact house hacking strategy that saved Alex thirty thousand dollars per year Which expenses to cut first when living in a high-cost area How to maintain a high savings rate on a median income Alex's investment portfolio breakdown and FIRE number What she's actually doing during her sabbatical year Her strategic plan for returning to work at a higher salary Why taking time off might accelerate your financial independence journey And SO much more! 00:00 Taking a Year Off at 31 Without Ruining FIRE 01:39 How She Started 03:17 The Lifestyle Cuts That Actually Worked 07:46 Roommates Saved Her $30K/Year 12:10 Her Exact Investment Strategy Revealed 14:29 Why She Left Her Job 15:50 The Return Plan: Higher Pay, Same Freedom 22:30 What She's Actually Doing on Sabbatical 32:06 Follow Her FIRE Journey! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
SummaryThe Four Fundamentals of Retirement Drawdown
Sep 2600:59:54Summary readyJoin Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench on the BiggerPockets Money Podcast as they welcome retirement tax experts Sean Mullaney, The FI Tax Guy, and Cody Garrett, a certified financial planner, to break down their game-changing retirement drawdown order of operations. This isn't your typical retirement advice - it's a strategic blueprint that could save early retirees and traditional retirees thousands in taxes while ensuring their money lasts a lifetime. Discover the four critical retirement drawdown fundamentals that form the backbone of any successful retirement strategy, plus advanced tactics for optimizing your tax burden, managing healthcare costs, and timing Roth conversions for maximum impact. Sean and Cody don't just explain what to do - they walk through exactly when and why each strategy matters most, covering everything from your retirement date through the challenging widow and widower years. This episode covers: The four fundamental retirement drawdown rules that could save you thousands Why you should spend taxable accounts first and traditional accounts second The strategic case for delaying Social Security until age 70 How to use HSAs and Roth IRAs as powerful tax-free tools The five distinct phases of retirement and what each one means for your strategy Advanced Roth conversion tactics and optimal timing How to keep income low to maximize ACA premium tax credits Managing required minimum distributions and minimizing their impact Healthcare cost planning and insurance strategies for retirees Why working with a qualified tax planner is essential for your unique situation And SO much more! 00:00 Retirement Drawdown Strategies 01:22 Fundamentals of Retirement Drawdown 03:37 Phases of Retirement and Taxable Accounts 07:23 Managing Income and Premium Tax Credits 09:22 Roth Conversions and Standard Deductions 19:52 Hidden Roth IRA and Tax Planning 28:36 Navigating Healthcare Subsidies and Early Retirement 29:26 Balancing Benefits for Early Retirees and Self-Employed 33:34 Strategic Tax Planning for Retirement 35:50 Understanding Required Minimum Distributions (RMDs) 36:59 Mitigating the Impact of RMDs 40:51 The Widow's Tax Trap and Effective Tax Planning 46:30 Connect with Sean and Cody! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
SummaryWhy Early Retirement Means Paying Less in Taxes
Sep 2300:50:13Summary readyIn this episode of the BiggerPockets Money Podcast, hosts Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench are joined by tax experts Sean Mullaney and Cody Garrett to reveal how early retirement can actually be your smartest tax strategy. The conversation immediately tackles one of the biggest misconceptions holding people back from FIRE - the fear that retiring early means facing higher taxes. Instead, they demonstrate how lower retirement income typically translates to significantly lower tax bills, completely flipping the conventional wisdom about retirement tax planning. The discussion dives deep into their comprehensive approach to tax planning for early retirement, centered around the powerful concept of "Pay Tax When You Pay Less Tax." This isn't just theory - they break down practical, tax-efficient strategies that can save you thousands, including optimizing traditional 401k contributions, maximizing Roth IRA conversions, and strategically managing taxable investment accounts. These aren't complex maneuvers requiring a team of accountants; they're accessible strategies that any early retiree can implement. Beyond the big-picture tax strategies, this episode tackles the real-world challenges that derail many FIRE plans. Learn how to build robust emergency reserves that won't trigger unnecessary tax consequences, handle unexpected income disruptions without destroying your tax efficiency, and leverage advanced techniques like qualified charitable distributions to further reduce your tax burden. Whether you're years away from retirement or already making the transition, this episode provides actionable insights to minimize your lifetime tax burden while maximizing your financial independence. The discussion is intended to be for general educational purposes and is not tax, legal, or investment advice for any individual. Mindy, Scott, and the BiggerPockets Money podcast do not endorse Sean Mullaney, Mullaney Financial & Tax, Inc. and their services. 00:00 Taxes in Early Retirement 00:54 Debunking Tax Myths in Early Retirement 03:03 Understanding Taxable Income in Retirement 04:10 Effective Tax Strategies for Early Retirees 05:37 Capital Gains and Tax Rates 12:25 Tax Planning Tools and Calculators 23:43 Tax Optimization Strategies 24:27 Debate: 401k vs Roth IRA 24:56 Order of Operations for Financial Independence 25:42 Roth IRA Conversion Strategies 32:33 The Middle Class Trap 39:09 Tax Strategies for New Investors 44:21 Connect with Sean and Cody Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
SummaryWhich FIRE Strategy is Best for You? (Lean to Fat FIRE)
Sep 1900:33:17Summary readyJoin Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench on this episode of the BiggerPockets Money Podcast as they dive into the different types of FIRE. Financial Independence, Retire Early isn't a one-size-fits-all approach - it's evolved into multiple distinct paths, each designed to meet different lifestyles, risk tolerances, and financial goals. This comprehensive exploration will help you understand which version of financial independence makes the most sense for your unique situation. From traditional FIRE to coast, lean, barista, chubby, and fat FIRE, each approach offers its own timeline, savings requirements, and lifestyle implications. Whether you're drawn to the minimalist appeal of lean FIRE or you're more interested in fat FIRE's promise of maintaining a luxurious lifestyle in retirement, understanding these distinctions is crucial for mapping out your financial future. Scott and Mindy break down the math, mindset, and practical considerations behind each path, giving you the clarity to choose your FIRE strategy and start building a personalized roadmap to financial independence. This Episode Covers: The six main types of FIRE and what makes each one unique Specific savings requirements and timelines for each FIRE path Real-world pros and cons of traditional, coast, lean, barista, chubby, and fat FIRE Which personality types tend to succeed with each strategy How to match your lifestyle and goals to the right FIRE approach The sacrifices and trade-offs involved in each path Practical steps to get started on your chosen FIRE journey And SO much more! 00:00 The 6 Types of FIRE 01:12 Traditional FIRE 04:38 Coast FIRE 09:43 Barista FIRE 13:11 Lean FIRE 18:15 Chubby FIRE 22:07 Fat FIRE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
SummaryFI Faster by Making More and Spending Less Using "Geo-Arbitrage"
Sep 1600:45:47Summary readyDiscover how geo-arbitrage can double your investing power without requiring a raise, career change, or lottery win! In this episode of the BiggerPockets Money Podcast, Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench are joined by Daniel Mills to explore how remote workers can live lavishly on a middle-class salary by strategically leveraging location differences. This isn't just about moving somewhere cheaper - it's about unlocking a completely different financial trajectory through smart geographic choices. Daniel shares his journey to financial independence while living in Japan, breaking down his simplified investment portfolio, dramatically lower cost of living, and the tax strategies that allowed him to write off six-figure incomes. From navigating international investing challenges to discovering unique real estate opportunities, Daniel's story demonstrates how living abroad can accelerate your path to FIRE in ways you might never have imagined. This Episode Will Cover: How geo-arbitrage can double your investment power on the same income Daniel's path from English teacher to international real estate investor Simplified investment strategies that work from abroad Tax advantages and write-off opportunities for expats Real-world cost of living comparisons between Japan and the U.S. Practical challenges of investing internationally and how to overcome them Cultural integration strategies for successful expat living Whether geo-arbitrage is right for your FIRE journey And SO much more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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How to Save 50% of Your Income Without Sacrificing Your Lifestyle
Sep 1200:30:21Summary readyWhat if we told you that your path to financial independence isn't about picking the perfect stocks, timing the market, or earning a massive salary? In this revealing episode of BiggerPockets Money, hosts Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench cut through all the noise to focus on what actually matters: your savings rate. This isn't just theoretical advice—Mindy and Scott get personal, sharing their own savings journeys, including the costly mistakes they made and the pivotal breakthroughs that transformed their financial lives. This episode completely reframes the conversation around saving money. Instead of extreme penny-pinching that breeds resentment, Mindy and Scott explore "creative frugality"—intelligent strategies that help you save significantly more without feeling deprived. From small incremental changes that compound into thousands of dollars annually to innovative approaches for slashing major expenses, you'll walk away with immediately actionable tactics that prove financial independence isn't about sacrifice—it's about smart optimization. This Episode Covers: Why your savings rate matters more than your investment returns or salary Mindy and Scott's personal savings rate journeys and biggest mistakes Lifestyle optimization strategies that boost savings without reducing happiness The psychology behind sustainable high savings rates Creative approaches to cutting your three biggest expenses Why starting a side business accelerates your FIRE timeline Investment strategies that support aggressive savers How to increase your savings rate at different career stages Common savings rate mistakes that derail FIRE progress How small changes compound into life-changing financial results And SO much more! 00:00 How to Supercharge Your Savings Rate 01:14 Mindy and Scott’s Savings Rate 03:40 Strategies for High Savings Rates 11:50 Creative Ways to Reduce Expenses 20:02 Increasing Income 26:06 We want to hear from you! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Mr. Money Mustache’s Simple Secret to Retiring Early in Your 30s
Sep 900:57:52Summary readyPete Adeney, aka Mr. Money Mustache, joins BiggerPockets Money hosts Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench to break down the shockingly simple math behind early retirement. The man who started the FIRE movement and retired at 30 reveals why most people are overcomplicating financial independence—and why your savings rate is literally the only number that determines when you can quit your job. Pete doesn't just share theory—he walks through the real strategies, investment decisions, and mindset shifts that allowed him to achieve financial freedom in his thirties. Whether you're new to FIRE or looking to optimize your current approach, this episode cuts through the noise to deliver the foundational principles that actually work. This Episode Covers: The one metric that determines your entire FIRE timeline Why saving 50% gets you to FI in just 17 years (and the math behind it) How Pete retired at 30 and what his portfolio looked like The psychology of frugality and why it's actually liberating Pete's current thoughts on real estate investing for FIRE His take on Bitcoin and alternative assets in a FIRE portfolio Common FIRE mistakes that derail people's progress Why your income level matters less than you think Practical strategies for increasing your savings rate immediately The mindset shifts that make extreme saving sustainable And SO much more!00:00 The Basics of Early Retirement 01:02 The Shockingly Simple Math Behind Early Retirement 01:21 Understanding Your Savings Rate 05:41 Pre-Tax Savings and 401k Considerations 11:06 The 4% Safe Withdrawal Rate 13:09 Seven Levels of Safety in Early Retirement 28:44 The $50,000 Earner 31:51 Raising Kids on a Budget 35:17 Health Insurance in Early Retirement 41:39 Real Estate as a Retirement Strategy 46:41 Bitcoin and Speculative Investments 51:19 Connect with Mr. Money Mustache Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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How to Make Your FIRE Portfolio Even MORE Passive (Finance Friday)
Sep 501:03:41Summary readyToday on the BiggerPockets Money Podcast, we're diving into an incredible success story. Meet Beau, a retired military professional who built a massive real estate empire and achieved financial independence in his thirties. But here's the twist: even with a winning formula, Beau wants his investments to work even HARDER while he works even LESS. In this Finance Friday episode, Beau opens up his entire financial playbook with hosts Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench. We're talking rental properties generating serious cash flow, private lending deals that most investors don't even know exist, and tax strategies so advanced they'll make your accountant jealous. This isn't your typical "I bought a duplex" story—this is next-level wealth building. If you're serious about real estate investing and want to see what's possible with the right strategy and execution, this episode is packed with actionable insights. In this episode, you'll discover: Beau's complete real estate portfolio breakdown and current cash flow numbers Advanced private lending strategies that generate consistent returns Tax optimization techniques for real estate heavy portfolios How to transition from active to passive real estate investing Strategic property sale timing and 1031 exchange considerations The pros and cons of private money lending versus traditional investments Portfolio diversification strategies for real estate investors How military discipline translated into investment success Specific steps to make your real estate investments more hands-off Risk management strategies for high-net-worth real estate portfolios And SO much more! 00:00 Beau’s FIRE Journey 02:43 Beau’s FI Number 04:52 Exploring Passive Income Options 09:53 Private Lending and Real Estate Portfolio Analysis 19:17 Evaluating Property Performance and Future Plans 28:54 Exploring Arbitrage in Real Estate Lending 33:32 Amortization and Long-Term Financial Planning 36:34 Balancing Private Lending and Real Estate Investments 44:32 Tax Strategies and Portfolio Diversification 54:51 Connect with Beau! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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