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BiggerPockets Money Podcast
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Intermediate to advanced personal finance strategies for people serious about the FIRE (financial independence retire early) movement—not just dreaming about it.
Tune in on Tuesdays and Fridays for new BiggerPockets Money episodes with your hosts, Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench! Or visit BiggerPocketsMoney.com with additional resources.
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How Regular People Can Achieve Coast FI in Their 30s
Aug 8, 202500:40:29Summary readyCoast FI is a fascinating concept that's gaining traction in the financial independence community. And no, to Mindy's disappointment, it doesn't involve having enough money to live beachside (though the lifestyle can be just as relaxing). Unlike the extreme FIRE approach that dominates personal finance blogs—where you're told to save every penny, never eat out, and forget about vacations—Coast FI offers a more sustainable path to early retirement. Enter Jessica and Corey from The Fioneers, who've proven this gentler approach actually works. When they discovered the FI movement, they were earning just $30,000 combined—hardly a six-figure head start. As their income grew, so did their savings rate, but Jessica quickly realized that climbing the corporate ladder came with a hidden cost. The stress became so overwhelming that she needed a six-month mental health break from work. That break changed everything. Jessica never returned to traditional employment, instead building her own business. Today, she and Corey have achieved what they call "slow FI"—they're Coast FI with complete time autonomy, still enjoying travel and comfortable living, while on track to retire in their early 50s. They're living proof that financial independence doesn't require sacrificing your mental health, relationships, or joy along the way. Their story challenges the narrative that you must choose between financial freedom and actually living your life. Sometimes, the scenic route gets you exactly where you need to go. In This Episode We Cover Coast FI explained and how it’s a far more enjoyable alternative to standard financial independence Saving and investing even while making a below-median income salary Resisting lifestyle creep and how to use pay raises to increase your net worth The danger of going “too fast to FI” and how retiring too early can be a detriment Part-time jobs, side hustles, and other ways that you can make more apart from your W2 Spending money to “escape” and how quitting a stressful job could save you more money And So Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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How to Reach Coast FIRE (The Relaxed Way to Retire!)
Aug 5, 202500:32:14Summary readyTired of the extreme saving grind? What if there was a way to front-load your retirement savings and then "coast" to financial independence without the stress? In this episode of the BiggerPockets Money Podcast, hosts Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench break down Coast FI - the strategy that lets you stop aggressive saving in your 30s while still retiring comfortably at 65. Coast FI isn't about retiring early - it's about retiring the anxiety around retirement savings. Once you hit your Coast FI number, compound interest does the heavy lifting while you focus on living your life. This approach offers the perfect middle ground between traditional retirement planning and extreme FIRE strategies. This Episode Will Cover: How to calculate your personal Coast FI number Investment strategies that maximize compound growth The psychological freedom that comes with hitting Coast FI Real examples of Coast FI timelines and scenarios Why this might be the perfect FIRE strategy for most people And SO much more! 00:38 What is Coast FIRE 02:16 How to Achieve Coast FI 05:56 Calculate Your Coast FI Number 07:54 Coast Fire by Age 09:21 Passive Income and Coast Fire 19:52 Investment Strategies for Coast Fire 22:40 Investment Order of Operations 28:15 Connect with Scott and Mindy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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How “Regular” People Can Achieve FIRE (Early Retirement) by 40!
Aug 1, 202500:48:50Summary readyJoin hosts Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench as they sit down with Cody Garrett, a former musician turned financial planner who discovered the FIRE movement seven years ago and is now just four years away from achieving financial independence by age 40. Cody's unique dual perspective—as both someone actively pursuing FIRE and a professional helping others achieve it—makes this conversation particularly valuable for anyone on their own early retirement journey. Cody shares the practical strategies, mindset shifts, and career decisions that accelerated his path to financial freedom. He breaks down his personal approach to portfolio management, explains how to avoid the lifestyle inflation trap, and discusses building multiple income streams through business ventures. Whether you're contemplating a career change, looking to optimize your FIRE timeline, or seeking guidance from someone who's walking the walk, this episode is packed with actionable insights you can implement immediately. This Episode Covers: Cody's journey from musician to financial planner and FIRE discovery Strategic career pivoting to accelerate financial independence Portfolio theory and investment strategies for early retirement Avoiding lifestyle inflation while building wealth The importance of finding your "why" for financial independence And SO much more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Are We Heading Into a Recession? J Scott Breaks It Down
Jul 29, 202500:56:07Summary readyIn this episode of the BiggerPockets Money podcast, hosts Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench are joined by real estate expert J Scott to break down the mixed signals dominating today's economic landscape. Are we or we not heading into a recession? They discuss what's really happening with GDP growth, consumer spending patterns, and the evolving nature of work itself. From the rise of gig economy jobs that complicate traditional employment metrics to the unprecedented challenges facing businesses nationwide, this deep-dive conversation reveals the nuances behind the economic data that directly impacts your financial decisions. This Episode Covers: Key indicators of a recession Analysis of recent conflicting economic headlines Differing impacts on consumer spending and employment trends Influence of tariffs and the rising wave of business bankruptcies Potential economic impact of artificial intelligence Importance of portfolio diversification during uncertain times And SO much more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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How to Fast Track Your Path to FIRE | The Wealth Ladder
Jul 25, 202500:49:26Summary readyIn this insightful episode of the BiggerPockets Money Podcast Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench delve into the practical steps for building wealth with financial writer Nick Maggiulli. They discuss his new book, 'The Wealth Ladder,' which introduces a six-level wealth ladder for assessing and enhancing one's financial strategy. From establishing emergency savings in level one to focusing on investment choices in level three and contemplating business decisions in levels five and six, Nick provides a comprehensive guide across different stages of wealth. The episode is perfect for anyone aiming to grasp a structured approach to financial independence and learn how to adapt their strategies as their wealth grows. This episode cover: The Wealth Ladder (All 6 Levels) How to adjust your portfolio over time The importance of increasing your income Balancing lifestyle upgrades with sustainable financial growth And SO much more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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How to Achieve Financial Independence in the Military
Jul 22, 202501:09:33Summary readyIn this episode of the BiggerPockets Money Podcast, hosts Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench, along with guest David Pere, delve deep into achieving financial independence while serving in the military. They discuss the unique advantages of military benefits, such as zero-cost healthcare and housing allowances, and how these can be leveraged to fast-track financial independence. The episode is packed with actionable advice and real-life examples to inspire military personnel to build wealth and achieve financial freedom. This Episode Covers: Budgeting effectively while enlisted Understanding military pay structures The power of house hacking and live-in flips, and investment strategies tailored specifically for service members. They explore the potential of achieving substantial net worth through disciplined savings and smart investing, even within an eight-year service commitment. And SO much more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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The Portfolio Strategy That Could Double Your Safe Withdrawal Rate
Jul 18, 202500:53:03Summary readyIn this episode of the BiggerPockets Money podcast, hosts Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench welcome Frank Vasquez back on to challenge everything you thought you knew about safe withdrawal rates. Frank reveals how a properly constructed risk parity portfolio can support a 5% withdrawal rate—meaning you could comfortably pull $125,000 annually from a $2.5 million portfolio without the traditional fear of running out of money. This isn't theoretical; it's a practical strategy that sophisticated investors have been using for decades. Frank takes listeners step-by-step through building this portfolio on Fidelity, demonstrating real-world implementation rather than just concepts. You'll discover how mathematical principles like the Fibonacci sequence can guide your allocation decisions, why traditional diversification falls short, and how to rebalance effectively without overthinking the process. Most importantly, Frank shows how to customize this approach to your specific situation, making risk parity accessible whether you're approaching FIRE or already financially independent. This Episode Covers: Risk parity fundamentals - Understanding true diversification beyond stocks and bonds Asset class breakdown - Specific investments across equities, bonds, commodities, and alternatives Rebalancing strategies - When and how to adjust your portfolio without constant tinkering Withdrawal techniques - Practical methods for taking income from multiple asset classes And SO much more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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The Portfolio that Supports a 5% Safe Withdrawal Rate | Frank Vasquez
Jul 15, 202500:57:49Summary readyIn this episode of the BiggerPockets Money Podcast, hosts Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench are joined by Frank Vasquez, host of the Risk Parity Radio Podcast. Frank introduces the concept of a risk parity portfolio. Rather than relying on traditional stock-heavy portfolios, Frank reveals how strategic diversification across asset classes can potentially support higher withdrawal rates while actually reducing your risk of running out of money. The conversation covers the nuances of structuring a portfolio with equities, bonds, and alternative assets like gold and managed futures. They also explore the implications of real estate investments and the timing of transitioning from an accumulation to a decumulation strategy. Frank shares insights on the importance of balanced withdrawals, the challenges of adhering to conventional investment philosophies, and the need to move towards a holistic view of financial independence that includes well-being and responsible spending. We Discuss: Why the standard 60/40 portfolio may be failing FIRE investors Optimal allocation strategies across equities, bonds, and alternative assets The critical timing of portfolio transitions as retirement approaches Strategic withdrawal approaches that prioritize longevity over accumulation The psychological shift from wealth accumulation to wealth optimization And SO much more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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How Much Do You Need for Early Retirement? (How to Calculate Your FI Number)
Jul 11, 202500:42:27Summary readyWhat’s your financial independence number (FI/FIRE number)? Are you being too conservative, or are you cutting things close? Do you even have one? Today, we’re taking a deep dive into this hotly debated topic to help you build a nest egg that will support your early retirement! Welcome back to the BiggerPockets Money podcast! How much money do you actually need to retire? For years, the four-percent rule has been the “official” stance of the FI community. But why is it, then, that so many people continue saving and investing when they can comfortably retire? In this episode, Scott and Mindy talk about their own FI numbers, how they calculated them, and how their financial positions have evolved over time. You’ll learn whether the four-percent rule still works today or if you need a larger buffer! If you’re worried about inflation, one of the best things you can do is keep your living expenses in check. This might seem out of your control, but there are several ways to either lock in certain costs or eliminate them entirely. We’ll discuss the many advantages of a paid-off house, self-managing your rental properties in retirement, and a one-time investment that could help you save thousands of dollars over your lifetime! In This Episode We Cover How to calculate your financial independence number (and when to adjust it!) The four-percent rule explained (and whether it still works in 2024) Why most people chasing FIRE don’t retire on the four-percent rule How to control your expenses and protect against inflation in retirement The “home run” investment that could save you thousands of dollars And So Much More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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The Best Investing Order of Operations for FIRE (2025)
Jul 8, 202500:39:04Summary readyIn this episode of the BiggerPockets Money Podcast, hosts Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench discuss the order of operations for investing your money to achieve FIRE. They outline the steps for both traditional early retirees and those looking to invest in real estate (or start a business). If you’re a beginner in the FIRE movement, start here and work through these steps to FIRE the fastest. If you’re close to FIRE already or at a significant financial milestone, don’t worry. We have tips you can use right now to retire earlier and avoid the “middle-class trap” that kills so many FIRE dreams.The episode dives deep into why each step is essential and provides actionable tips for maximizing your investment strategy based on your personal goals. What We Discuss: Investing Order of Operations for FIRE Invest Order of Operations for Real Estate Investors Why we prioritize a Fully Funded 401(k) over a Roth IRA And SO much more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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