Only Grace Can Win - 4D Workshop

Summary

Bill Winston Podcast – "Only Grace Can Win" (4D Workshop)

Date: December 8, 2024
Host: Bill Winston

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Overview

In this dynamic workshop, Bill Winston leads listeners into a deeper understanding of the power and realm of grace, faith, and the “fourth dimension”—the supernatural realm where believers are called to operate. Through scriptural exposition, practical examples, and a call for boldness, Winston encourages believers to rise above mere natural limitations, access God’s inexhaustible supply, and expect miracles as a demonstration of faith. The central theme: Natural effort and knowledge alone are insufficient—only grace, received by faith, enables true victory and supernatural breakthrough.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Crossing from the Natural to the Eternal (00:07–03:45)

• Faith Connects Two Realms: Faith is described as the medium that bridges our current reality and the spiritual “world we fell from” (00:15).
• Restoration of the Garden: The church is commissioned to reclaim all that was lost, walking in God’s original intent (00:35).
• Eternity vs. Linear Time: Using the metaphor of a wedding ring, Winston explains that God exists outside time: “Eternity has no end and no beginning… an ever, never ending circle of love.” (00:55)
• Scriptural Foundation:
  • Isaiah 46:9–10 and 57:15 illustrate God’s place in eternity and the believer’s invitation to operate from that vantage (01:51–02:41).

"Are you His child? See, you can operate like you’re there."
– Bill Winston (02:41)

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2. From Sense Knowledge to Spirit Knowledge (03:45–06:47)

• God Multiplies What You Learn: Daniel 1:17 highlights God granting knowledge and skill beyond natural learning (03:18).
• Spirit of Might and Wisdom: Jesus worked with both wisdom and might; believers can receive revelation in their fields just as George Washington Carver did, whose discoveries came by divine revelation rather than education alone (03:59–05:40).

"God will take what you’ve got and put some super on your natural. Say amen."
– Bill Winston (04:54)

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3. The Grace vs. Works Contrast (05:40–08:15)

• Hard Work vs. Grace Through Faith: The account of Peter (Luke 5) highlights the futility of toil independent of God’s word, contrasting mere information (logos) with revelation (rhema) (05:45–06:47).
• Business & Financial Application:
  • Winston shares a personal example about acquiring a shopping mall by faith, not sense knowledge.
  • He prophesies financial breakthrough: “You’re going to have at least $100,000 in the bank… No debts. And I need that to come in the first quarter.” (07:40)
• Spirit-Guided Decision-Making: Challenges attendees to act on revelation, not consensus or prior experience (08:15–09:43).

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4. Activating Supernatural Results (09:43–13:01)

• Spiritual Instructions for Financial Breakthrough:
  • Don’t reason with the mind when addressing needs; instead, speak authoritatively to situations, as Abraham did (09:51–10:36).
• From Information to Revelation: There is a spiritual transition required for breakthrough (10:37–10:47).
• Grace Is the Key to Victory:
  • The story of David, and the symbolism of five (number of grace) smooth stones—grace is what wins battles (11:22–12:29).
  • Challenge to embrace big thinking: “Smallness won’t get the money… Think Big. The big fellow lives in you.” (12:43)

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5. The Role of Miracles and Certainty (13:01–22:37)

• Miracles Transcend Sense Knowledge:
  • Miracles aren’t subject to natural verification; they originate in the spiritual realm (13:05).
  • Testimony of anointing oil breaking the power of crime in the community (14:00).
  • Satan targets miracles to keep the church natural-minded: “One miracle… is worth a thousand sermons.” (15:45)
• Demonstration, Not Just Preaching:
  • Importance of power and testimony, not eloquence alone. “My speech and my preaching are not in enticing words of man’s wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power.” (16:50)
  • Three keys for ministry growth: Preach the Word, offer decent facilities, and provide testimonies of God’s power (17:50).
• Certainty Enables the Miraculous:
  • David faced Goliath with absolute certainty (1 Sam. 17:45–46) (19:04–19:46).
  • Jesus’ certainty at Lazarus’ tomb (John 11:43) (21:50–21:59).
  • Hezekiah's confident prayer led to miraculous deliverance (2 Kings 19:35) (22:37–22:55).

“You can work miracles with certainty. You can have prayer with certainty.”
– Bill Winston (21:59)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Divine Knowledge:
  "He gave him the spirit of might and the spirit of wisdom… God can put those things on you and you’ll have a knowledge of something that you’ve never seen before." (03:59)
• On Faith and Wealth:
  “When I talked about a mall, you should—amazing all the preachers that laughed. What Bill Winston trying to do? See, they didn’t get the revelation, but I got a revelation that the money is coming back home and I need a place to put it.” (08:47)
• On Facing Challenges:
  “Don’t try to figure it out with your mind… command those bills to be paid off. Dematerialize, disappear in Jesus name.” (09:51)
• On Miracles:
  “He’s not that concerned about how many people preach. What he’s concerned about is the evidence of what they preach. One miracle… is worth a thousand sermons.” (15:45)
• On Certainty: “From now on, you’re going to have certainty in your prayers, in your decrees, in your confession. There’ll be a certainty that’s coming into your life and a suddenly in the name of Jesus.” (22:55)

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Important Segment Timestamps

• Faith bridges realms, eternity explained: 00:07–02:41
• Spirit vs. sense knowledge, Daniel & Carver: 03:18–05:40
• Grace contrasted with self-effort (Peter's haul): 05:40–06:47
• Business by revelation, prophecy of increase: 07:40–08:15
• Practical instruction: Speak to your obstacles: 09:51–10:36
• Only grace wins the spiritual battle (David & stones): 11:22–12:29
• Miracles outside sense knowledge, testimony of oil: 13:01–15:35
• Three essentials for ministry growth: 17:50–18:40
• Certainty in miracle-working faith (David, Jesus, Hezekiah): 19:04–22:55

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Tone & Closing

Bill Winston’s style remains enthusiastic, bold, and practical, mixing scriptural analysis with personal stories, humor, and direct challenges. His message is unmistakable: Pursue revelation over mere information, expect (and demonstrate) the miraculous, and walk in grace-driven certainty.

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Summary:
"Only Grace Can Win" is a call to step out of the limitations of natural reasoning, into a supernatural life where God’s grace, appropriated by faith, produces miracles, provision, and influence beyond imagination. Believers are urged to live from revelation, act with spiritual authority, and expect the supernatural as their new normal.

Transcript

[Ministry Announcer]

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[Bill Winston]

We're going to have 4D workshop. This workshop is taking us up to another level. Faith is the thing that crosses over from one realm to the other. God has given you faith to reach back up into the world that you fell from so you can operate in tun dimensions. Because God makes all things new and he's put them all there. An inexhaustible supply that can meet the need of every person on this earth, anytime, any place. See, we're taking back all that the garden had lost. Say amen. This is where the church. Brother Hagin said before we leave here, men gonna walk like God. He said it and I believe. Now, what am I saying here is that this whole linear thing versus the eternal. If you look at a ring, for example, wedding ring. The wedding ring is round and eternity has no end and no beginning. You got what I'm saying? And that's symbolizing an ever, never ending circle of love. That goes for the one that you're betrothed to or the one that you're married to. Are you following what I'm saying? Now, this whole eternity piece is talked about in the scriptures. Isaiah, please. And look at Isaiah. Are y' all getting something here? Isaiah, chapter 46. And look at verse 9 and 10.

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Ready, read.

[Bill Winston]

Remember the form of the angel of old.

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For I am God and there is none else. I am God and there is none like me.

[Bill Winston]

Keep going. Everything that I said is going to come to pass. You got what I'm saying? And if you look at Isaiah, chapter 57, verse 15. I remember that scripture because there's a Chevy. 57. 57 Chevy. All right. Isaiah 57, verse 15.

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Ready, read.

[Bill Winston]

He inhabits what? Eternity. Where is God? He's in eternity. He's in eternity. He inhabits that. Are you his child? See, you can operate like you're there. Now you listen. Now, this is not for lazy saints. This is for mature people because, well, I don't need to learn nothing and I just stay at home and get breakfast in bed. No, no, that's not what he's talking about. He's talking about he will add to what you got. Look what it says in Daniel, chapter one, verse 17. Please. Ready, read.

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That's what these were, children. God gave them knowledge and skill in all learning.

[Bill Winston]

Stop. Gave them knowledge and skill in all what? Learning. See, they had to learn something that's linear, but he gave them knowledge on top of that. And that's the part that we're talking about that's spiritual. Let's look at one verse which Jesus operated under. Look at Matthew, please. Chapter 13 and verse 54. Ready?

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And when he was come into his own country, he taught there in that synagogues that they were astonished and said, wisdom is wisdom and he's mighty.

[Bill Winston]

No two things come together. It's the same thing out there in the wilderness in Exodus, chapter 31, the same thing with Jesus. Not only wisdom, but what mighty works. See, he gave him the spirit of might and the spirit of wisdom. And God can put those things on you and you'll have a knowledge of something that you've never seen before. George Washington Carver, agricultural scientist, a black man born in slavery, went into his workshop, his laboratory, he called it God's little workshop. Asked God about a peanut. He said God pulled back a curtain and showed him how to take the peanut apart and put the peanut back together. He did not learn that at Iowa State. He learned that from God. God will take what you've got and put some super on your natural say amen. Now, if you know this and you're a lawyer, you can use something that a natural lawyer can't. If you know this and you're in business, you can use something that a natural business person can't do. God needs economic solutionists. Glory to God. Amen. Isn't that powerful? So I'm just saying this is our time. We need to get moving. We need to get moving. All right. All right. So let's look at these. I've got them on a board. I'm going to put them up on the board. And these have to do with grace, knowledge versus sense knowledge, and these are comparison, so forth. But I want you to see what I put up on the board. Let's. Let's kind of go through that. All right? They'll put the first one up. Please. Thank you. Ready?

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Hard work and sweat versus receiving my grace through faith.

[Bill Winston]

All right. Peter. Peter. Notice what he said. Put it up there. Luke, chapter five, verse four. Ready?

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Now, when he had left speaking, he said unto Simon, launch out to the deep and let down your nets for his rock. And Simon, answering, said unto him, master, we have toiled all the night and have taken nothing. Nevertheless, at thy word I will let down the net.

[Bill Winston]

Now, that word there different from word in the first verse. The first verse said, they pressed upon him to hear the word of God. That's the Logos. But now he's having the rhema. And now he's going from information to Revelation and that's where God wants you to go. Because when you see it, God can deliver it. Say amen. All right, so. So what you do many times. Meditate, so forth and so on. All right, let's look at the next one. Glory to God. All right, Ready?

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Greatest knowledge has no point of contact with the senses.

[Bill Winston]

Now watch this. When God is operating with you with the greatest knowledge, buy that shopping mall. I could not consult. My flesh, my senses, my. The bank of my experiences that are lodged in my mind, I could not have consulted. Never heard of buying a shopping mall. Didn't have a shopping mall. I didn't think I had a shopping mall. Anointed, I just. You know what I mean? But when I heard it, I couldn't verify it with my flesh. Galatians, please. Chapter 1, verse 12. Galatians 1 and 12. This is the right bunch. I know it is. Now, I'm giving you stuff now because I said you're going to have at least. How much in the bank? $100,000. In the. What about your debts? No debts. And I need that to come in the first quarter. I said at least 100,000. You could have 2 million, at least 100,000. And I'm giving you. When I said that. Now he's giving me the lessons that you need to get to that goal. Isn't this good? All right. Galatians, chapter one, verse 12. Watch this. Ready?

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Read.

[Bill Winston]

Isn't that something? So he didn't get this from Peter, Paul and Mary. He got this. He got this from God. Are you following what I'm saying? Okay, now look at verse 15, if you will. Verse 15. Ready?

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God, who separated me from my mother and called me by his grace to reveal his son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen immediately I confer my flesh and blood.

[Bill Winston]

Now, wait a minute. Wait a minute. He didn't ask his own mind or his own body what they thought about this. Matter of fact, he didn't even go up to Peter and the rest of the apostles. He got it from God and start preaching to them. And they said something like this. I'm throwing this in there, boy. He's preaching Scripture. You know what I mean? But I'm just saying, when I came talking about a bank, when I talked about a mall, you should. Amazing all the preachers that laughed. What Bill Winston trying to do. See, they didn't get the revelation, but I got a revelation that the money is coming back home and I need a place to put it. Say amen to that. And I'm not talking about a savings account. I'm talking about banks. Glory to God. Okay, let me see. All right, let's go to the next one, please. Ready?

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[Bill Winston]

All right, so don't try to figure it out with your mind. What did I tell you to do with your bills? What did I tell you to do with them? Put them on the table. Back off a little bit. Didn't I tell you? Did I tell you to point at them? And I tell you, command those bills to be paid off. Dematerialize, disappear in Jesus name. Am I right about that? Now don't try to judge that with your natural mind. Because your natural mind will pull your spirit down into a 3D place. Don't judge it. Abraham considered not. He didn't ask his body what he thought about being young again. He just spoke it and God did it. Say amen. Let's put the next one up there, please. Glory to God. How are we doing so far? All right, ready?

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From information to revelation.

[Bill Winston]

Glory to God. Now I just showed you that in Luke chapter 5. Put the next one up there, please. Glory to God. Ready?

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Only grace can win over the enemy.

[Bill Winston]

Oh my goodness. Only what? Grace. All right, look at First Samuel, please. First Samuel. And let's look at verse 17. And let's look over here in verse 36. So he now has defeated a lion and a bear. Now he's going after this big guy. Now look at verse 40. Ready?

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And he took his staff in his hand and chose him five smooth stones.

[Bill Winston]

Stop. How many? What is the number of grace? Come on, doctor. Come on, doctor. That's good. Five John, chapter five. The man sat around the pool of Bethesda. The Bible said it had five porches. And Jesus saw the man notice he'd been long time crippled like that. He looked at the man and said, would you like to be made whole? He said, I don't have anybody to put me in the pool when I'm coming. Others jump down in front of me. Jesus said, hey, rise. Glory to God by grace. And get up on your feet and walk. See, I didn't have all the knowledge that I need to have to run this thing. But God gave it to me when I accepted the challenge. Say Amen. So we gotta stop thinking small, folks. Smallness won't get the money. It'll keep you, you know, but you gotta. We gotta think big now. And I'm not criticizing you. I'm saying you can think like you want to think, but I'm encouraging you. Think Big. Yeah, yeah. Amen. Because the big fellow lives in you. TL Osborne had that in Papua New Guinea. That's what the Papua New guinea people translated. When he was teaching them on Jesus, he came to the island and they said, the big fellow lives in me. I said, wow, that's powerful. All right, let's go to the next one. Ready?

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Miracles are outside the realm of sin and knowledge.

[Bill Winston]

So I can't verify miracles with my flesh. I got to let go of my flesh and just act on the word of God. Say amen to that. Let's go to the next place. Changing your world. Satan wants to wipe out miracles. He wants to wipe miracles out of the church. Then church to think like the world. All right. When the lady came over to our first church there at Lake and Pulaski, and she said, the drug dealers have taken over her block that was in our jurisdiction, I prayed to God, what do I do? He said, bless the oil. Unrighteousness can't hear them. Righteousness can hear. And you just trust what you heard. Well, suppose I'm wrong. That won't be the first time you've been wrong in the last time. Okay? So I said, God said, take this oil for me to bless it, give it to you, and you pour it down the middle of the street. She said, well, give it here. And she went out and did this side. Now, notice one. Satan knows that he's got to wipe out miracles. He's got to wipe. Now, he's not that concerned about how many people preach. What he's concerned about is the evidence of what they preach. One miracle TL Osborne says is worth a thousand sermons. See, people, we got social media now, people all over that thing. It's words. I understand that, but where's the witness? Jesus said something. If I do not the works of my father. Come on, help me. Don't even believe a word I said. And I'm saying to you right now, it doesn't have to be that you lay hands on somebody. It could be, but it could be something that happened at your job or. Are you following what I'm saying? If you follow him, he's going to lead you to a miracle at some point in time. If you. He's going to lead you. Are you following what I'm saying? See, he knows what we're made for. We're made for signs and wonders. He knows what we're made for. We're built like that. Inside. Signs and wonders is home. So Satan's trying to take over and wipe out Miracles. Because he wants the church to think like him. He knows as a man thinketh in his heart, so is he. Now, what I'm here to do, I know this is part of my calling, to bring people back to the word of God and a demonstration. When I first started in ministry, I had a little card, my little business card. You know, I thought, you know, I thought I was, you know, well, whatever. And. And it says, over from First Corinthians, chapter two. My speech and my preaching are not in enticing words of man's wisdom, but in the demonstration of the spirit and of power that your faith will not rest in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God. Here's what Jesus told Moses, the first psalmist, when he sent Moses down to. Down to Pharaoh to get the children out of bondage. He said, now, Pharaoh, when he ask you, not if. When he asks you to show him a miracle, you do this, show him one. Over in First Kings, chapter 17 and this verse 18, when Elijah the prophet had a standoff between he and the prophets of baal, say amen to that. And notice, somebody had to demonstrate something that you preach this word right? God said three things, son. I want to give you that. If you ever do, if you do these, your ministry will continue to grow. I said, what are they? He said, first, preach the word. He said, I don't care what they think about it. You preach what I give you. I said, yes, sir. He said, next, have a decent facility. Make sure your bathroom is clean. Got it? Now, you didn't mention bathroom, but I'm saying a lot of people going to bathroom, they don't come back. Then, next, make sure you have testimonies. Make sure what you're preaching is working. Say Amen to that. Next is practice makes perfect. We can operate with certainty. We can operate.

Certainty. All right.

Here is David. David said something to Goliath. He was by himself. He turned down Saul's armor. And he said in 1st Samuel, chapter 1745, he said to Goliath, this day. Ready?

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Thou promised to be with a sword and with a spear and with a shield. But I come to thee in the name of the Lord of hosts, the God of the armies of Israel.

[Bill Winston]

Whom thou hast keep going.

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This day will the Lord deliver thee into mine hand. And I will smite thee and take thine head.

[Bill Winston]

No, no, no, no, no. Wait a minute now. Just, just, just. Might be, should be enough, but let's keep reading. And take thy head from thee. Keep going and I will give the.

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Cars of the air and to the wild beasts of the earth, that all the earth may know that there is a God in it.

[Bill Winston]

Now, he was going to take them off the map. Watch this. The whole army. He was going to have buzzards come in and pick, so nobody can identify who that even was. I'm talking about this. David was gangster. I mean, he. Maybe I shouldn't say it like that, but David, you know, he didn't play. He didn't play. You should see over there with some of the stuff David said. David didn't play. You cross David, you got a problem. He told this man, he said, listen, you didn't take care of my people. And I watched all your flock and kept them safe. He said, no, you tell this man that if he has, if there's one male left in his camp by Sanaa, may the Lord take my life. Oh, man. Now, I'm not telling you to be like that because Jesus has come. You need to save life. Amen. Isn't that powerful? So I'm saying practice makes perfect. How about Jesus? Watch what he said. John, chapter 11, verse 20. Ready?

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[Bill Winston]

Now, she said, wait a minute. He's not only dead, he's been dead four days now. I know he'll rise again in the resurrection. Jesus. And you don't understand. You looking at the resurrection, Isn't that powerful? Yeah. That is certainty. Now let's go up to verse 43. All right. Ready to hit? Ready.

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And when he thus had spoken, he cried with a loud voice, lazarus, come forth, Come forth.

[Bill Winston]

Poor, poor. When he said that, those disciples that were with him, I bet they did this, you know, they were. They were. They were. They were wondering what was going to happen to his ministry at this point. But Jesus had absolute certainty. And I'm telling you, you can work miracles with certainty. You can have prayer with certainty. You know, when Hezekiah made that prayer, he had certainty. Look what it says in Second Kings, chapter 19, in verse 35. Look what it says here. This is Hezekiah after he had prayed. Watch this. Ready?

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And it came to pass that night when.

[Bill Winston]

When. Keep going.

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And roared in the hand of the Assyrians and hundred, fourscore and five thousand. And when they arose early in the.

[Bill Winston]

Morning, when they what, they were asleep, they prayed on it and went to sleep. And God took care of business. I'm saying from now on, you're going to have certainty in your prayers, in your decrees, in your confession. There'll be a certainty that's coming into your life and a suddenly in the name of Jesus. I'm just saying the enemy tried to civilize us out of every power that God has provided for us. To do well and to say well. But from now on, we're coming back. We're back to the book. Say amen. What God says we're going to. Well, praise the Lord.

I trust that you enjoyed that teaching. Now this is offering day on the broadcast when we give those who are really being benefited by the broadcast a time for increase, a time that you can sow into the ministry. It's interesting. When we got here, we really had no one that we knew that could help us in the ministry. We came to Chicago with $200 and a lady took us in her home and kept us until we got started. But look at us now. And look at us now, because there has been great, great increase in our ministry. There's a scripture over in Genesis, chapter 8, verse 22, and he says this. This is God speaking now to Noah. As long as the earth remains, there's going to be seed, time and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night. They shall not cease. So as long as we're here, we can be able to sow and expect a harvest. And so that's what we did. We started with $200. And look at us now. The Bible says in the book of Job 8. Seven, though thy beginning be small, your latter end shall greatly increase. And now we're all over the world now. Look what God is doing now. As you sow into this ministry, expect something. You can expect us to win more souls. That's wonderful. But maybe you have a need as well that you could sow for that need in the kingdom. God wants us to be able to not rely on the world system, but to rely on the kingdom of God. And as you sow, this is God's way. He expects you to reap so you can get every need met. So I want you to just put in mind or have something available of what you're going to sow. And let me pray for you over that seed right now that we can ensure it comes back quickly and comes back a hundredfold. Let's pray. Father, we come before you in Jesus name. I thank you for all of those who are sowing into this ministry. Father, I pray according to the principles of the laws of prosperity that they, as they sow into this ministry, that you will measure it back to them a hundredfold. Father, I pray that all of their needs be met. And as they move forward, Lord, that they'll go in abundance and never have another lack now. I thank you for it. I bless them in Jesus name. Amen. Well I want to thank you so much for supporting our ministry. I don't take it for granted. I thank God for even speaking to your hearts and sowing into the ministry we've able to be able to do. We've been able to do so much because of people like you. Thank you so much. Again I give God all the praise and thank you for being a part of what God is doing. We love you. This is Bill Winston saying keep walking by faith.

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[Bill Winston]

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