Podcast Summary: Bill Winston Podcast – Audio

Episode: Under GOD's Command – Ownership Mentality
Date: March 30, 2025
Host: Bill Winston (with Co-Speaker / Ministry Associate)

Episode Overview

In this dynamic and faith-charged episode, Dr. Bill Winston challenges listeners to embrace an "ownership mentality" rooted in spiritual authority and dominion. Instead of settling for spiritual survival or partial provision, believers are called to assertively possess all that Christ has redeemed for them. Winston draws on biblical principles, personal stories, and practical examples to illustrate how adopting God's perspective of ownership transforms how believers engage with the world, their communities, and opposition—from unjust laws to spiritual adversaries.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Moving to the "Fourth Dimension"

• Bill Winston introduces the concept of “4D”—the fourth dimension, above the temporal, physical reality (00:07).
  • 4D is where "believers belong," enabling them to "dominate anything" and "reverse anything the devil has done."
  • Encourages moving beyond expecting Jesus to intervene again, and instead to take up one's destiny and authority as a believer.
  • “God is no longer coming down and interested in confirming who you were… He’s raising you up to where you are destined to be.” (00:20)

2. Ownership vs. Payments: Christ’s Intent

• Winston asserts that Jesus “didn’t die for payments, He died for ownership” (01:26).
  • The notion that believers shouldn't be condemned for mortgages, but God’s intent is for them to own outright.
  • Ownership is connected to the biblical concept of jubilee—restoration of what rightfully belongs to God’s people.
  • “We’re not stealing anything… we’re repossessing something that belongs to God and His people.” (01:39)

3. Dominion: Scriptural Foundations

• Genesis 1:26 as foundational scripture—dominion given to humanity over creation (03:21).
  • Winston unpacks “dominion” using Webster’s 1828 Dictionary: “supreme authority, power to govern or control…”
  • He outlines four related terms: rulership, lordship, caretakership/stewardship, and ownership.
  • Distinguishes ownership as a higher calling than stewardship:

    “What Brother Copeland said… We are not stewards. We are owners. That is not preached… and the body can’t go any further than what’s preached.” (05:32)

4. The Justice System & Kingdom Manifestation

• Warns that in “the final days,” the justice system will be a key target for demonic abuse (02:10).
  • Judgment and justice are vital for Kingdom manifestation.

5. Ownership Mentality Transforms Behavior

• Winston explains that “once you have ownership mentality, you treat it different…” (07:22)
  • Ownership brings a proactive, authoritative posture:

    “Wait, what you doing going in my car?... That’s my car.” (07:24)

  • Illustrates with coat-watching anecdote from Brother Copeland—a true owner will act, not just observe.

6. Kingdom Download vs. Human Reasoning

• Spiritual action is not just learned, it must be “caught”—discerned from the heart (09:25).
  • Sharing a ministry story, Winston recalls a woman distressed by drug dealers. Through Kingdom prayer and instruction, she took authority over her block, an example of ownership bringing transformation (09:58).

7. Revelation Precedes Revolution

• Citing Rosa Parks, Winston emphasizes that revelation brings the willingness to refuse injustice (12:37).
  • “No ownership, no outrage… Revelation will bring a revolution. In other words, you will no longer put up with the enemy doing what he’s doing.” (13:12)

8. The Authority of the Church

• Challenges the passive reaction of churches to worldly decrees (13:52).
  • “God is running the church. The church is running the world.” (14:10)

9. Real-World Example: The Shopping Mall Story

• Winston recounts buying a shopping mall only to face a sudden ordinance banning church services there (15:04).
  • Instead of relying on legal or practical advice, Winston sought God’s strategy in prayer.

  • “I've got to receive it from another government.” (16:31)

  • “God told me, take a Bible… and read it to the mayor.” (19:52)

  • He acts in faith, assertively seeking a meeting and standing on citizen rights (20:55), resulting in the reversal of the law and restoration of their right to use the building (22:44).

10. Complete Redemption Includes Divine Provision

• Ownership includes material provision, not just salvation (18:33).
  • “The enemy is a negotiator… he’ll let you get saved, but leave your money. Redemption is not complete without divine provision.” (18:33)
  • Cites biblical examples (Abraham, David) where recovery always included “the stuff.”

11. Restoration & Authority Proclaimed

• Powerful declarations for listeners:
  • “I don't care what you've been going through. This is the last time you're going to go through that. Every shame that has taken place in your life, God is restoring you double.” (22:44)
  • Listeners are called to harass the devil, not vice versa (23:39).

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Dominion:

  “Dominion: rulership, lordship, caretakership, stewardship… but also, ownership.” (04:35 – Dr. Bill Winston)

• On Faith & Action:

  “In the kingdom, you don’t learn, you discern… Most of it can’t be taught. It’s got to be caught.” (09:40 – Dr. Bill Winston)

• On Passive Christianity:

  “Let them alone. They be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both of them gonna fall into the ditch.” (06:49 – quoting Jesus, Matthew 15:14)

• On Ownership Mentality:

  “Once you have ownership mentality, you treat it different… because you own it… You start acting with a little bit more authority.” (07:22 – Dr. Bill Winston)

• On Revelation & Revolution:

  “Revelation will bring a revolution. In other words, you will no longer put up with the enemy doing what he’s doing.” (13:12 – Dr. Bill Winston)

• On Kingdom Strategy:

  “I've got to receive it from another government.” (16:31 – Dr. Bill Winston)
  “Whatever he said to you, do it.” (20:41 – Co-Speaker)

• On Divine Provision:

  “Redemption is not complete without divine provision… Don’t leave your stuff.” (18:33 – Dr. Bill Winston & Co-Speaker)

• On Victory:

  “I read somewhere in the Bible, it says, he always causes me to triumph. Now, understand… it’s about time I act like some of this is true.” (17:26 – Co-Speaker)

• On Restoration:

  “Every shame… God is restoring you double.” (22:45 – Dr. Bill Winston)

Timestamps for Key Segments

| Timestamp | Segment | Description | |------------|-------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------------| | 00:07 | Fourth Dimension ("4D") | Believer's higher calling, dominion | | 01:26 | Ownership vs. Payments | God's intent for total ownership | | 03:21 | Scriptural Dominion & Definition | Genesis 1:26, what does "dominion" mean | | 05:32 | Not Stewards, but Owners | Copeland's insight, the power of what is preached | | 09:25 | Kingdom Download & Example | Story of the praying woman reclaiming her block | | 13:12 | Revelation Precedes Revolution | Rosa Parks story, revelation produces action | | 14:10 | Authority of the Church | Church runs the world | | 15:04 | Shopping Mall Testimony | Real-life example of faith and ownership | | 18:33 | Redemption Includes Provision | Don't leave your stuff | | 22:44 | Proclamation & Restoration | Declarations for listeners |

Conclusion & Takeaways

Dr. Winston calls listeners to radical faith and bold ownership. Spiritual dominion goes beyond spiritual status—it's about practical, material, and civic engagement in the world, expecting the supernatural and refusing unjust outcomes. The faith action is a key, not just knowledge:

“Whatever he said to you, do it.” (20:41)

Believers are urged to operate from a position “under God’s command,” taking action—spiritually and practically—on their authority and inheritance as God’s children. The message: Don’t accept less than ownership, don’t be passive, and expect Kingdom outcomes—double restoration and dominion—in every area of life.

For those seeking a deeper dive, listen to the full episode or connect with Bill Winston Ministries for the complete teaching series “Ownership Mentality.”