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You stored anger for a long time in your intestines. Did you wake up around 2 or 3 in the morning?
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Yes. How did you.
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Because remember, your liver is decongesting and it's going to shut energy from this point right here. It's called Liver 14 up to your lung one.
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So Chris is our guest for the show today. He's a TCM practitioner and also a guru when it comes to kinesiology.
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Certain bacteria and certain parasitic infections from mold will actually consume some of the nutrients you take, but also some of them actually consume some of the hormone derivatives you have in your body. So at your time of the month or if you're in a full moon cycle and you get bloated and you get little extra weight or water weight is because the infections get a little active, they get a free meal. I had a patient, it's a little girl, and she was 3 years old, and she had so much eczema on her. And I say that seriously because it was so. It was cake. And the doctor said, well, she's just going to have to live with it, so you might as well just put, you know, cortisone cream stuff on her. She had never slept in her own bed since she was a baby. Like, she's always had to sleep with her parents because her breathing is so bad. They were doing albuterol treatments almost 12 to 14 times a day. What?
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Some of these viruses can rob years out of our life, and sometimes traditional medicine doesn't look for these things.
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No, it's not. I checked her mom because you always checked the parent, and her mom had horrible amounts of grief. We would never check her.
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Why? Chris Motley.
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Well, how are you? I'm doing great.
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I'm dig. Wow, My friend, I'm so excited to have you here. So, via mad, just for the audience that we met in London in September, and you were with our friends Josh Axe and Dr. R.O. cole and awesome Lakes. And Josh goes, if you want my buddy Chris here. And it's like, no, tell me about him. And he's like, well, he can look at your face, read your features, and tell you what's going on with your health, your personality. I was like, wait, what? And then the entire dinner, all of us who were there, who just met you were like, so thank you for coming into biohacket. And let's start with. Can you read my face again and tell the audience so well.
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Thank you. Yes. When we read faces without getting too in the boring section of it, but literally your face has maps like, basically, it can tell where your organs are necessarily dysfunctional. They're not sick or they're hurting, but they will tell you if you have a struggle in that organ area. So for you. And I'm not picking her face apart, just giving her some. I've asked, but normally we talked about. Right before you're talking about maybe some breakouts or rashes. The first thing I would notice is that on the cheeks, you have very, very nice cheeks that come out, which means that you are a person who knows the finer things in life.
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God bless.
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Right. But you also know opportunity. So the thing is, your lungs are represented here in the midsheets. And so normally I would suspect you have some lung fatigue that's going on right now. Have you had any type of breathing or shortness of breath or any time when you exercise? And you may not. But the thing is, your lungs are on your cheeks. Your large intestine is down here. So I think you're not getting rid of certain toxins in your life, especially grieving toxins or divorce the grieving toxins. So now your body's trying to actually clean it out. So it's actually a good sign for you. You also have a little puffiness above your left eye, which tells me you have some gallbladder fatigue. And gallbladder fatigue on the left side of the face normally has to do with the males in your life. So it could be a male person, a father, an ex husband, being sensitive about it, but it could be that you actually have basically resentment or frustration. But the one thing about the gallbladders is if somebody ever tried to take away your identity, if somebody tried to take what you have worked hard for and then they tried to pull it from you. So the first thing I would do is you have to clean your gallbladder.
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And how do we do that?
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Normally I would use things like Chanca Pedra or things that break up zolhard stones or kidney stones, and also maybe some Chandra to actually get the liver to cleanse because the gallbladder sits right below your liver. So when we say that you have some gallbladder fatigue, the. The flip side, guys, of this is that the liver helps you break down histamine. And so you have higher histamine because your liver can't detoxify properly because you're showing it on your face also, too. Very nice forehead. I'm just saying that really big thinker. And you also have, like, small. If you can see, like right here, just slightly right there, which tells me there's hidden anger inside your body that I there. It's everything. But it's going up through the forehead, which means it goes through intestines. And this is what it's telling me when you look at your face, right off the bat, it says you've stored anger for a long time in your intestines and you need to flush it. So even though I could tell you all the metabolic stuff. Yes. We need clean your colon and lungs. We would. I would actually first try to clean out your gallbladder and your liver because there's some frustration. The other thing is this, though. Whenever you have a nice rounded, like, hairline, it normally tells me that you may have had some relationships with your parents that may have been a little bit harder. Maybe it has been really great. But you definitely has had an impact. Especially on the bright side, your mom's had a very, very big impact on you. And hopefully I'm not pushing too much.
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Well, you.
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But really, like, your mom's energy is, like, very well connected. And the things like your lobes are very nice lobes, but they're disconnected, which means that you can disconnect and healthily. So you may have been the kid that didn't feel so attached to your family. Like, I can move on with my own life. And they call it the falling lines right here when I. Right here. Super driven. Like, super driven. Like, it literally comes right here, which is great because it tells me, get out of your way. You can go and do something. Very shape, nice shaped nose. This is a lot, but the nose is very nice and has a nice point to it, which means you can smell a rat. You know, when somebody's lying to you.
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I got my nose fixed. It was always sharp.
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It's always sharp. It's like, it's very sharp. So the first thing I would say is, like, what would I do for you? I would normally clean up your gallbladder and liver to flush because it's a wood element. Not getting too far into this. And the wood can be cut down by the ax, the metal and your lungs and your large intestine are metal, which means you're not detoxifying all your anger and frustration properly. So I'd first break up the sludge in your liver and gallbladder, and then I'd go right after the lungs and lower the test.
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It's so funny. You nailed it perfectly because I've had a really emotionally taxing weekend. And you said my left eye swollen. That basically signals frustration. Right. And then the gallbladder is linked to frustration towards maybe men in my life. Right.
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Yeah.
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And so that theme, and it definitely is this. And I was thinking this weekend, we had a community event yesterday and I co hosted with a friend of mine, this incredible mom whose daughter had passed away. Within her foundation is called Mia's Miracles. And you know, we met up and she said to me, you know, Iman, what I love about you is that you just get shit done. Like, you come in, you have this determination and get shit done. And I said, you know, Maria, it's not by choice. You know, a lot of us women have fallen so out of the rhythm of our bodies because we have been pushed to this maximum. Right. Because men have let us down or disappointed us or not stepped up. So then we have to become the men in our lives. And it's. I love that people love this energy about me. But I didn't get here because by necessarily by choice, I got here as a byproduct of what I was experiencing and what I've had to go through. So I think it's fascinating what people appreciate in other people can sometimes be the one thing that people are like. It's making me so tired to be in this position.
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Yes. I think that once you train your body over the years to do what you've done, to actually become driven and to put a lot of energy, and I think that it's really, really astounding how when you put a lot of energy into getting to where you're at, you think about your liver and this is how technical, technical it can become. Your liver will tear apart all your vitamins and minerals, all your fats, carbs, right? It's buildings, ligaments, tendons, hormones, enzymes. You're asking your liver a lot to do what you're doing. And then all those components that you need from your food to give you energy, you're like, I'm going to do it harder and harder. And then you're going to say, I'm going to do more. Later tonight, I'm going to start researching. And then your gallbladder goes, well, you better give me some bile because I'm going to need more food or energy to handle it. So it knows. So it dumps all the extra bile in your gallbladder and then they get tired. And then you're thinking, after while you're driven. But if you don't rest well enough, that's when the gallbiner litter will show themselves, which means you could have sore knees, you could have sore ankles, you can have TMJ Issues right now, I could tell you that you probably have some shoulder pains at times when you work out or your rib cage. Right. All gallbladder issues. You wake up from 2 or 3 in the morning.
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Yes. How did you. I literally texted my functional medicine doctor the other day. I'm like, listen, I'm waking up randomly and I look at the line. It's like 2, 3am and I should not be waking up by that time,
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2 or 3am because remember, your liver is decongesting and it's going to shove energy from this point right here. It's called liver 14 up to your lung one at that time. And it's going to put a lot of energy and chi into your lungs so you can repair your grief, repair the fright. And so if it's a little too congested in your liver, it's like, no, no, no liver. I need a little more energy because I got so much drugs.
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This is what literally for the last two and a half weeks, this exact time, I wake up with Lyme. Okay.
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Whenever you do it, just look at the clock and say it's. I got a liver congestion. My lung's a little tired. But you're recognizing it. So that's good though, right? So you remember your drive is really passionate. It's great.
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Yeah.
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That it puts a brakes on.
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And it's so funny that you said like, I. It's the thing. I tell it to myself all the time. You're like, oh. The drive basically is like, either get out of my way. I'm that person. I'm like, either you can join me or you can move right aside because I'm still going on straight through. So make up your mind what you want to do. I'm going to either. You're not going to stop me.
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No.
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So you decide if you want to come along for the journey or not.
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Right. Do you feel though, like from facial angiosis, do you allow yourself to feel the weight on your shoulders?
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Yes, I think I, I am. I sometimes get overwhelmed. I just cannot show it or express it because I have such a big responsibility for. For both my companies, for my teams and I don't have. Sometimes I feel like showing that distress is always a sign of weakness because I'm so conditioned to constantly be like on. So it sometimes comes out of me being a little short or frustrated. But I don't necessarily voice when I
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move along, period back. But when you were younger, though, I would suspect that maybe even very, very young, did you with the weight, I'm saying Was there always, like, a feeling of responsibility, like you're not going to be able to do enough or I'm not doing enough, or I got to prove myself?
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I mean, we're. I'm Asian, so, you know, Asian parents, whether you go, you know, East Asia, West Asia, South Asia, they're all the same. You know what I mean? You get it. You get it. You're like, you know, your mom was Korean. You get it. Like, they're just. There's no time for, like, emotions or feelings or voicing out there. They're like. They look at you like, what do you mean?
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That's right.
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So you can't communicate. You get it.
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I get it. But when you're with the weight on your shoulder, you have this many companies and you are feeling it. What do you do to, like, let it out, though?
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I go for acupuncture. Okay. Literally. Yeah. I love. So this why I was so excited to interview you. So TCM has been a really big part of my journey for the last couple of years. I started, like, I used to acupuncture here and there, and it's always been great for me. Then last year, a year and a half ago, when I started my holistic fertility journey, I realized all the health benefits for TCN and moxie and all this stuff that you could do. And I was like, wait, this is incredible for what it does to bring blood flow into your reproductive organs. But also, I noticed, Chris, every time I go for acupuncture, especially tcn, I would drop in and I would get the most restful nap of my life. I don't know when I would drop in and I would come out and I would just be in bliss, but I wouldn't be able to get into the States normally. So I started getting addicted to being like, this is my reset. So every weekend I try to get acupuncture. And this, like, Saturday, I went for it. And it's, you know, the 40 minutes that I go in those 20 minutes a nap is like, the best sleep of my life.
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Yes, that's right.
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So that's how I reset.
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That's the biggest thing I see with patients, is that whenever you do make the points, all the points coincide properly in the ratios of QI1 to the body. It's like every organ's getting the proper blood flow, and I think that people get it to a high and they get to a parasympathetic overload. So it's like really such super relaxation because organs do talk and they communicate. So you're Right. When you go get it done, the organs are literally saying, okay, all right, long, you can rest, because I'm not going to take any more energy from. Correct. And the only thing that after you leave and let's say the week comes up on you and you start to feel that tightness again, it's only because we have patterns that tell certain organs, like, no, I need more energy right now, so you got to take it from the other one.
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Right.
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So that's great, though, that you're doing it. At least you're doing that and taking care of yourself to do that. Yeah.
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That's one of the things that has really, really helped me. I used to be able to meditate a lot more in the mornings. That's kind of gone out the window of trying to get back into it. But I'm such a doer that when I'm in the needles and there's nowhere for me to go, I can't send a text message. That's like. It's forcing me to slow down. So that's been my. My trick. Um, and even when I travel, I go to places, I try to find an acupuncturist in different states and different countries. I had this incredible Chinese lady that I found in Dubai when I was there. So I literally look for this because I know that my nervous system really resonates with, you know, this sort of medicine. And I also understand it when you look at, you know, your organs against the Chinese clock and, you know, you look at what happens to your body from 9 to 11pm, 11 to 2. It makes sense.
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Yes, it totally does. If you do follow physiology, organ balance, you'll notice that certain organs are doing certain particular jobs at particular times of day. So if you go down and break it down. So in the morning, your stomach is supposed to get the primary amount of energy around 7 to 9am, which is when some people get hungry and they want to eat. Or like, right when you wake up, people want to have a bowel movement. People say, I have to have a bowel movement. I give my cup of coffee. That's from 5 to 7am so all that qi is going into that organ at that particular time of day to give a lot of umph and to repair. So you need to follow your body and listen to your body, like you're saying, and know when to see it. So I think one of the biggest things I love about your podcast is when you talk about people like, knowing your body and listening to it and learning to be sensitive to it you
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also talk a lot about how TCM and kinesiology can tie into finding hidden infections and what your body's actually doing and how it's speaking to you.
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Yeah.
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Can we dive a little bit into that?
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Yes. I think that one of the things I love is like when you talked about, like, if your cheeks are showing it, I have. We have a lot of patients that come to the office and quite a bit of them have eczema and rashes, psoriasis breakouts, pimples, or even scabs. I mean, all over the board. I got so many pictures in my phone and database about individual. Had these patterns. The thing I want everybody out there know is that whenever you get a random breakout or a random rash or eczema, you need to pay attention to the patterns, because the patterns, the lines or the areas of your body where they're at will tell me as a practitioner which ornaments as a woman for, for, for having reproductive. You know, health is one of the top priorities is like ladies that come in and say, hey, during my, my cycle, I'm bloating very heavily or after I eat. So when we talk about infections, yes, you do have to clean, fix up your hormones. But one thing's for certain, certain bacteria and certain parasitic infections from mold will actually consume some of the nutrients you take, but also some of them actually consume some of the hormone derivatives you have in your body. So at your time of the month or if you're in a full moon cycle and you get bloated and you get a little extra weight or water weight, it's because the infections get a little active, they get a free meal. So like if they move in certain areas, like let's say for instance, if your ovaries, and this is getting a little too far, but if your ovaries are meant to reproduce, okay, so if you have a motherly instinct, a lot of ladies out there, even if they're getting towards menopause, perimenopause, if they've always been the mother to everybody and they've always been like, no, my son's 33 years old, but I still got a mother him. You are still initiating the program as though you're and a new mother. Right? But the, the, the ovaries are, get kicked in all the time at times those organs will attract infection. So you'll find individuals, I'm telling you, do an oaks test or you a GI map test, you'll find individuals that have higher amounts of like E. Coli, H. Pylori, Salmonella, and They've gotten food poisoning, which is salmonella, E. Coli, all food poisoning. Oh, yeah, I had a food poisoning, really bad when I was 22. Yeah, it never left because the imbalance is still in the gut. Right. You know, your body could adapt to it, and that's fine. It still lives there. But it is your strain on your body and the organ system that allows them to kind of overtake. So when we're talking about in infections, the first thing is finding the pattern of any eczema or rashes or breakouts, looking at any swelling, looking at time of the month. And then we use different techniques. I try to find out the specific frequencies or do lab tests, some blood tests to find out infections. You clear some of those up. And I'm not saying it's a softball, but even hormone imbalance, estrogens in the levels of 500, literally, you clear up some infections, shrubs, you know, it's. It's crazy that we're not even looking for that, though. Most lab tests, though, so that's where it's at. Infections, in my opinion.
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What is being, like, the most, like, extreme case that's walked into one, into your practice, and you were shocked by even the results yourself.
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Man, I've got a few. One. Well, I'll tell you for anxiety. Let's do one for anxiety. I had a lady that lost a husband, and she had recently lost a husband. I think it was before she came saw me, like nine months or 10 months before. And she had one of the most extreme cases of anxiety. Like, the doctor put her in, like two to three psych meds because they couldn't solve it. They just thought it was in your head.
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You, like, she couldn't get out of
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bed, get out of bed. Energy was so low, she thought she was dying. Her niece asked me to come and said, hey, she's going to possibly move here towards Nashville. Can you check her out? And, you know, I'm like, well, she's on three psych meds. I'm not. I'm not acting like a medical doctor. I'm like, well, I'll do what I can. And when she came in, when she. She was bloated in her digestive tract, but she says, I can't hardly sleep. I'm up like six times a night and everything. Every loud noise makes you kind of jump. And she goes, I can't even get out of the house because it's agoraphobia, right? But one of the most extreme cases of anxiety I've seen, and I'd Found that she had flukes really badly. Now, most parasite tests won't find a lot of flukes in a poop test, but that was. That was one of the things that we found and said, well, we're going to do it gently. So I started on homeopathics and different herbals. And we can go into that. But one of the last things after that layer, because it will happen, a body will build a layer that's stuck on top of each other. And underneath it, I found some hookworms and tapeworm frequencies. And I'm like, well, we better check it out. So she had started to. Where all of her anxiety attacks are minimized to two a week. That's one of the best ones. And then she was. She told me, she said, hey, I'm at the. I was at the restaurant with my son. She goes. And I had this sudden urge to go, I gotta go right now. She goes, I didn't want to go to the bathroom here. So she said she got in her car and trucked it home. She said, when I looked over the toilet, there was like a worm that was like this, the length of the whole toilet bowl. And she goes, you know what she was? That was three weeks ago. She was. I had had one lick of anxiety since I released it. I could show you pictures. I had one patient, and that's one I had. I had a patient, it's a little girl, and she was three years old. And she had so much eczema on her that. And I say that seriously because it was so. It was cake. Like, you know, they get scabs all over. And the doctor said, well, she's just going to have to live with it, so you might as well just put, you know, cortisone cream stuff on her. Put in your. Your closet. The mom didn't know what to do. Trying to help her out. I'll fast forward it, but when you looked at her pattern, she had it all over her arms, her legs, her cheeks were bright red and her chest was full of eczema wrecks. Right.
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How is she?
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She was three at this time. About turn four. Now, I don't want to get over complicated, but this is the kicker. On her thumbs, I noticed that she had really brittle nails on her thumbs and they were crooked and they were eaten away. And that's lung. Okay. So we started to work on her. I checked her mom because she always checked the parent. And her mom had horrible amounts of grief. She got kicked out of her house when she was 14. Never resolved the Grief. The kid takes the energy on. She had that much rash. Her cheeks were really red. We started, you know, I just started cleaning up layer by layer, and I found really bad H pylori and strep, tons of it. And I said, well, I said, mom said, do you ever have strep? And she goes, yeah, I had almost eight times within a couple years span.
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And so the kid inherited.
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The kid inherited. And then her thumbs, this is the kicker. I said, I don't know about you, but I said, something's up with her. Her left lung, there has got to be something. That's why she keeps having it. Anaphylaxis, they say. We. She had never slept in her own bed since she was a baby. Like, she's always had to sleep with her parents because her breathing is so bad. They were doing albuterol treatments almost 12 to 14 times a day. What? So she would go into an asthma attack? Okay, I got more. So, but I'm not trying to overtake this, but she literally, when we started to clean her up, she started to get better. And we got her some, you know, homeopathics, where I cleaned it up, finally found a form of, like viral. We found some Epstein Barr. And I thought, well, this is pretty heavy. Like you put the strap. So we started to, like, give her some herbs. I gave her some woad, which is isotis thing up and astragalus. And then it's the kicker. She got really heavily breathing. One night. Her mom texted me, like towards the middle of night. And I'm like, I would take up er. I said, why? Because no doctor would ever check her for pneumonia. Because she had strep, right? And she had mycobacterium pneumonia signals. I said, she's got to have strep. I mean, you've got to have pneumonia. She's. No, they said they won't check her. They would never check her. Why I'm with you, I don't understand. So they took her to that, you know, ER clinic or like the mini clinic or something. They finally admitted her, and that left lung was almost full fluid pneumonia. And then thankfully they did get her antibiotic. And I'm not trying to say, oh, antibiotics are bad. I said, no. I said, if it's on the spool, you need to like. We need to like, see what's. What can happen. Started cleaning it up, all her rashes started away, all of them off. And she started like sleeping on her own. Started talking more. She would hardly talk when she come in and she's Vibrant. I mean, I got. I had. And I'm not trying to bribe. Is not. This is like the power, like tc, like you. I had kids that would have seizures, literally. I had another patient, she had a stroke when she. That super still patient, and she had so many. She had a brain tumor when she was four I.
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B
Four or five.
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Well, in a span of short amount of time, she almost had six to eight strokes that were so large that it took her speaking away, took her movement away. She was in hospital. They had to remove the brain tumor, and it just. Okay. So that she cannot move. And I felt so bad for. They said, hey, she's having seizures every day. She was having over 10, maybe 12. And I'm like, you know, I know Chinese meds. We had points for seizures, and we can't say we treat it. We're very careful. And this is the power. Her parents are such good parents. They worked their hardest. And I was like, I want to. You know, I'm doing my best. I don't know what I can do, but let's see what happens. And when I first came in, she would have really red cheeks right here. She can't say anything. And her eyes would go flutter back. And from my testing, we did some extra testing. She had the yeast, and they called aldehydes, which are like formaldehyde. They're just neurotoxins, but they're really balanced system. And she had it, like, in my opinion, from what I see. And I was like, it's. It's all over. Her bowel nodes are always foamy, always mucusy, very smelly. They had to feed her through a feeding tube. And my heart goes out.
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B
Six years old.
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Yeah. And she's. She's now 13 or 14. Okay. So this is the kicker, though, when she'd go to the neurologist and not picking on anybody, understand, they would say, oh, no, yeast has nothing to do with seizures.
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But it does.
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It does. It's a neurotoxin. It could, in my opinion, could. And so we started cleaning the yeast out. And I'm telling you, like, they would tell me, like, she had the worst bowel movement I've ever. They were like, literally, because, like, at times on the table, I would start working on the points and clear a large intestine, some long, very gently, doing some laser light therapy, and she would start going on the table. And so when she got rid of it, she was down to one seizure a day just from yeast. And now they say she's probably getting one every Three weeks, maybe every four. So it's like the. Like looking at the pattern on somebody and recognize that infections can come in and create such. Such neurological issues, and it's really heavy for women's health. But those are some of the stories. I know. I took over.
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No, but the stories are amazing because I think they also show us how some of these viruses can rob years out of our life. And they go undiagnosed and untreated. And sometimes traditional medicine doesn't look for these things. Parasites is not what they're looking for. Some stuff is not what they're looking for. And so they go untreated in children in so many different ways. And then you're literally taking years out of someone's life.
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That's right. And you. When you. And as a mother, too, taking care of kids, and when you see a little one that's hurt or injured, and you think that if you had the infection, I mean, my mom had Epstein Barr levels up in the 600s. And they say normal is, you know, if you're above 70 is very harmful. And my mom had 600. And you think that that amount in her body somehow did not make its way into me at the lot of the family? Like. No, it did.
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B
And now how did she get such high levels? Like, what was she exposed to to have such high levels?
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She grew up in the farms of Korea, and I'm telling you, she has such high babesia signals. I mean, high enough Babesia blood parasite from ticks and mosquitoes that it was even on a regular western blot test. But she had to have gotten it, like, because Epstein Barr would be, like, in a random cold sore, you know, but she must have got from a parent or from another kid or something of that sort, because there's hardly any medical record. They never took her to the hospital. They barely did.
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B
You know, it's so funny you brought up babesia and your mom having it. So I went safari in Africa last December, and all of a sudden I came back and I'm having, like, hot flashes at night. I'm feeling, like, off. I'm sweating. I'm not feeling well. I can't be going to menopause too soon, okay? So I got checked and I had babesia and they threw. Chris, they threw every single pharmaceutical at me to try to get the rid of the babesia out of my body. My body was going through a suit, fight or flight. I decided to separate. Started getting divorced. You could throw any pharmaceutical off my body. It refused to let go of the babesia it just refused. Like I'm not letting go. I did three rounds of different pharmaceuticals three different times. And my body keeps on checking. So positive, still positive. And so now you know John Kim, who I also work with. He's my functional medicine doctor. He said it's not about the damn babesia. He just leave the babesia alone. He's like, your nervous system is so hypervigilant right now. It will not release anything because it's in survival mode. He's like, so let go of the babesia. Let's work on regulating your nervous system. Let's get you into a regulated state. Look at your sleep quality and stuff improved. Then your body will feel safe enough to let go.
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A
I tell you this. What do you kind of technique do you do different types of like techniques to help with.
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B
So I went to Sarasota last year to this place called the warehouse for like a nervous system. Recently I'm actually going back this month as well because I only did three days in this time we electrified. So they do everything from family constellations to neurofeedback to procaine therapy to ketamine. They combine different things to essentially take your nervous system out of flight or flight and kind of decompress you completely. And what was incredible for me coming out of those, it was just three days, my voice changed like as it was a lot lower. Like normally my voice is pretty high pitched. It slowed down in my throat, opened up. I felt like I had more capacity everything because I'm all living. I'm not living there. I was living in a much deeper state. So it brought that awareness to me that my body probably had never had in close to two years sprayed.
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A
And then when. This is one thing I really love about this too is that when people do have like a babesio or an infection and it gets to a certain area of your body. I think one of the coolest things is that if you can find out, let's say it was in a particular or like a lung or a gallbladder. I love putting people through eye movement therapies. Okay, I'll put them like, I'll put it. What you can do is how.
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B
How do people do eye movement therapy?
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A
Well, here like emdr, like you can. I wish I had my biofeedback, which I could probably do. But I have certain biofeedback device. I would check and see which area of your eye when you go into a particular left or like an emdr. And if you can identify the organ they have the issue in right and find out what position the eyes are in when they remember the first trauma associated with like your nervous system.
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B
Yeah.
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A
If you can then find areas on your spine in areas around the agul puncture system and release them normally. The brain, because the eyes are basically little brains, basically, if you can get them into position to find out which side it's on in the brain, put their eye in that position and then regulate the amount of neuro feet that's going from the brain to that organ. You normally get the brain to recognize the emotion or the normally bring it up to surface normally. And if you do that enough, I mean thankfully I've been doing this while, but patients will say I really felt like the way came off of me the last time with Redhead. But you're right. When they do that, you will find different signals of infections that will rise because the organ rested and the trauma held the infection there. Or it's, you know, where it's at in the joints of the body. So when we do like eye movement, if you do find one side of the left side or up and around right. Got to find out what organ and what system it's in and then find the spine level or which acupuncture point you can treat a lot like that.
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B
You just talked about trauma and I wanted to talk about how everybody is exposed to some level of trauma, but most people just want to bury it up, not deal with it and just kind of plow their way through life. But that's really dangerous because your body like there's a whole book, it's called the Body keeps score. Your body does not forget the trauma. Your organs trap in the trauma, they trap in the energy. So I want to know from your perspective, having treated so many people and from young kids to who are inheriting their parents trauma and kind of latching onto it, to full blown adults who are having issues with their health because of trapped emotions. How important is it for people to address their traumas and what are some of the safest ways that you recommend people do it?
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A
The answer, number one, it's probably one of the biggest keys for your uni. And I know from the book, it's a great book and I do agree that if you don't address your trauma, you won't ever give your organ system or the affected one the relief, the energy, actually let go of all your other stuff. I think it's probably the priority thing that when people come in, I look for and so if you come in and you said, well, I can tell it's your gallbladder or your lung. I don't try to make a person go through bad trauma, but what I do is I try to investigate because usually you'll find out all their history of infections or history. Their medical history will coincide to the trauma to that one organ.
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B
So I always had like high E Coli that came up for me. But I used to always get an upset stomach. I was in Parks and Telos 12 and my mom kept on bombarding me with antibiotics. It's proxen and this and that. I was constantly on rounds of antibiotics.
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A
Yes. And whenever you have an E. Coli
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B
and it's still in my body, still,
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A
like if you have a high amount of E. Coli and they'll even say that E. Coli is an infection that literally has the ability to cut out the energy production in your mitochondria, they'll rob you of ATP. And some of them are so good that they can create certain receptors in your mitochondrial wall and they can get in there and they can suck out the ATP and then they can put their ADP back in you. Symbiosis can do that. And if you read the journals, the thing is, like, when people think, well, it's just E Coli, I'm telling them, I'm saying, if we're talking about mitochondria and longevity, if you still have E. Coli, they're screwed. Very much so. And when we talk, if trauma is involved, you're right, it's going to be very hard for them to get rid of the E. Coli. If the trauma is like, let's say you get a nauseated stomach, right? Then I'd go, let's kill off E. Coli. But my other thought is, I'd give you a honey path to strengthen your stomach. Because usually stomach is to take your food, digest it, break it down. You ingest something in life and you're trying to metabolize, you're trying to break it down. But what if your body's tired of trying to take what everybody else gives you and I can't break it down anymore, you want to throw it back up. So you get a naughty stomach or gerd or, you know, any type of. Or his ulcers a histamine response. So if you like when most people have like a trauma, I work a lot trying to get the trauma out of the nervous system as much as possible.
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B
How do you do that, by the way? How do you get trauma out of some of these nervous system normally?
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A
Like, let's say, for example, if a person did have a stomach Issue. There's a few points I always find when I check somebody. I would always check underneath their collarbone because people get tight neck running. It's called a stomach 13. Right here, they'll get the tight pecs.
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B
Oh, yeah, I have.
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A
Yeah. When you have a tight pec right here in the peg minor, that's a stomach 13. And they'll also have pain right underneath the breasts, underneath the nipple line. And they'll have pain in the lower abdominal area. Right. Abdominals. Like you're. You're in your abs.
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B
Right.
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A
If you find that pattern and I could tell you right now in collects where. Where I could find it, you know, like it's outside quads and you find these little patterns and I can show you. Then my first thought is, okay, there's something. She got lots of worry. Like she's over worried over concerned about other people and more of herself. Okay. Then I would try to identify. You can do some kinesiology, but usually try to find out which age was the beginning age they experienced it. Now, that's all through intuitive like, you know, muscle testing and trying to find out. We get it. But if you find that, then I always find out what eye position those muscles are weakest. So your pec muscles, like when you do a bench press, you're clicking and your quads have a lot to do with your digestion. If they are chronically weak, which I could test and say, okay, then you find the eye position where it strengthens the muscle. Like a muscle test. Yeah. Then you know which act position. Then I'll find the spinal load with your stomach, which is like T5, T6. You go in there, you can needle it, and I use a gua shot. And I'll just.
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B
Yeah, you have to wash out here. Right.
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A
I'll release the whole thing. And then you go, okay, so then I get you back in that position to see if your muscles are stronger. If so your brain picked up and unless reveal the trauma. So then you recognize it more. So you remember how they say in those books, it's like it's recognition. Totally. It's because if you took your trauma and you pushed it into the closet, saying, I can't channel it. I can handle 30% of it right now, but I'm too busy to get the other 70%. Well, Fester, of course.
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B
Yeah.
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A
So I'm just kidding you, not to be overwhelmed, but gently pull it out there. And why is. Because if you recognize it, your body will go. Well, I'll take all the necessary hormones and enzymes to Go and help me clean up that. And if you do it enough and recognize it enough, you will attract the inner genes a lot to actually help you repair it. And so those are some of the ways I can do some demo, but
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B
I. Yeah, I want you to do a demo. Do a demo. Let's do it.
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A
Do a demo.
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B
Let's do the demo. Okay.
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A
All right. So what will happen is now me. I thought you. Well, you can't leave your jacket on. It's okay, it's okay. But I gotta see, like with your leg. Okay. Okay. So I know it's like I have different bio vmac devices right here, but there's different ways to do it. The office. But since this is a quick. So we know we have gallbladder issues and some of the main ways we check. And my hands are cold and so I just get here. But we check right here in this first issue. That's a gallbladder 21, guys. All right, don't freak out. I'm not hurting her. This is a gallbladder 21 here. Okay. Very tender. It's also where a small intestine point is, this upper digestion. The other point is going to be right here, right underneath the ribs. You have the axilla. And it's right here. And she's going to have tuner really bad right there. And that's a gallbladder one. This is just an example here. So you go down the hip. Okay. And this is a gallbladder third. You're right in this area here. It's a little tender right there. And you go down the knee. She's right in this area right here. Very, very tender down to her ankles.
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B
I feel like Chris came on the show just like. Like
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A
if you do this right here, you could feel it's really tender on this area. You can always found here, too. If you dig down to the bone, see how tender that is there? So you can find out the position. So what we can do for really, really simple case, right? The gallbladder has everything to do with this first area right here. Yeah. Tender, that is. This is gallbladder 20 right here. So you can take the arm and it's a muscle test, but you can take and point yourself upward and then hold it. As I question, I'm going to push hard. Hold it, hold it, hold it. And it's a little gibbon. Turn it this way. Hold tight, tight, tight. And she's a little gibby. So this area right here is a lot of gallbladder ingredient. So then I could Check. And we're going to put your eye. Watch my finger. We're keep your eye and we go to the right. Hold it and don't let me push down. That's not bad with just your eyes. Just your eyes go to the left. Hold tight. Not very strong. Let's go up. Ho, ho, ho, ho. A little stronger. Let's go down. Hold, hold. She has two spots when she goes up, when you go, she goes strong. Okay. So we can have two decisions. Okay. So whenever I go, I'm going to just try to like narrow down for you. And first thing we can just go, I'm going to go up and you say like, think about your ex husband. Hold. She goes weak. I'm going to say think about your children. Hold.
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B
For babies.
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A
Yeah. And think about your mom. Hold. Think about your debt. Oh, she strengthens up on her dad. So even though her ex husband, your dad has a big play in this. Right. So when you go up, you're looking up and I'd say, okay, you can muscle test and find out. But I know it's round two or three. So I'd say like think of, go off, think about your dad at 2 to 3 years old. Think about whole hole. She's strong. So then you go back here. If you guys can go back around here, it's hard to see, but right up here, tender right here. T4, T5. Right there. So you can literally do this right here. Turning back just a little bit right here. And I want you to do this. You're going to hold your eye, just your eyes up, up, up here and just keep it there. I don't want to ruin your job. But like right over here and you can do that. Feel center, hold. It's very tender. You can do anything. You put a needle here, it's a little tender. Hold. Take a big breath in. Put the tongue up to the roof of the mouth. Breathe out, breathe in, breathe out. Now this is a very quick fix right here. Now what I'm going to do is I don't like to go abracadabra and L Frank stock. We're just going to do without even thinking we can do. Say put your eyes up. Hold tight, tight, tight. And it's a little bit stronger. But the key is did I relieve energy to the gallbladder?
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B
Right?
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A
Did. I don't know if I did.
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B
A little bit.
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A
It's a little bit better. Yeah, it's less, less, less tender. Now this is the thing. If I go here, it's a little less tender.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And here. Now all that's going to do is bring more blood flow to your gallad.
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B
Right. And if I just in that I felt so much better when you released the back and it was so painful
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A
like how it's inner. It's like you don't, you don't go out.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And I'm pushing just as hard. Remember all the energy in the chi now is trying to go down through your gallbladder.
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B
Right.
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A
And try to hit this area. Now what will happen is in like two to three days I'll give you the homeopathic. Yeah, I can send you some. You better in two to three days your sleep may get more aggravated in the ogorny time, but you may have more dreams or thoughts about dad.
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B
Right.
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A
Or how males try to control your life and take your property away from.
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B
Nailed it.
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A
Right. Your identity was taken away and so you're going to think more about that. So I'd have to get your brain to really think. Then the gallbladder would release your infections. So then you can take here. I know there's a lot to take in, but when you look at the hands and such, you can actually feel like where the heart points are at and you can look at the hands where gallbladder and such are showing. But the biggest key for her would be as she starts to release her shoulders. I would have your PT or your therapist, they're going to always come up here and they're going to feel this.
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B
Right.
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A
If, if you got that released. Yeah. Once a week and you did this, you would flush so much infection on your gallbladder. I'm telling you. Oh my word, you would. And it's really. I'm not trying to be too complicated, but down here on the sacrum, you fill those areas right on your sacrum. That area right there has a lot to do with uterus and ovaries.
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B
Right.
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A
So you would need to clean that.
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B
You know that's crazy what you just nailed. So this is better now.
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A
Tell you no.
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B
When you first touched it, I was
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A
like a needle in it. Really? Fine.
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B
I'm about to die. So what you just said about my dad and going back to the age of two or three and what I have with males taking over property, no control. So one of my biggest issues has always been men have always heard to control me. I don't like to be controlled. I don't like to be told what to do. There has been issues around money, there has been issues around property and one of my biggest falling out with my. How My father was over this staff is like. He was like it was my way or the highway. And I said, well, sorry, I'm a free spirit.
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A
So that's right.
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B
So that is so funny that it came up. And you wouldn't know that about me. Right. You don't know my history. You wouldn't know that about me. There's no way for you to know that. To know that in my body's holding on to that.
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A
That's. And one of the coolest thing is though, you're showing me that, like, you're telling me that, like, you're like, your frequency. I have a small biofeedback, people. Actually, I should have brought it.
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B
I know.
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A
I'm sorry. I didn't. But it's like a device. It's like a small device that you can use. And it allows me to pick up on all the static signals in your skin. And you'll transfer it to me. And as I rub this small device, like, literally with my fingertips, I'll feel my skin texture change when you pass energy with me. And that's how biofeedbacks worked. A lot of them. Right. When people say do energetic work, but I'm saying frequency work, I would find all those points on you, and it would make it a lot quicker if I could go through all your ages. Like, I could. Instead of muscle testing, I could use that device and tell you which side your eyes are going, you know, weak and go and find out. Because at two or three years of age, think about how much that forms you.
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B
Right.
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A
Neurologically. Like, you're like, nobody's gonna tell me what to do.
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B
Yeah.
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A
But I gotta do it all myself.
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B
Correct.
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A
And if I do it all myself, I've got to hold on to it because nobody's gonna take it away from me.
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B
Right.
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A
That's gallbladder. Like, I'm telling you, like, and it's.
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B
But.
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A
But the strength of it is it's. It's not a bad thing. I know you know that about me. I'm tired. Of course, the strength about it is, like, it makes you such a grower because you're like. You make things real.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And you can tell, like, by your physique. You had a lot of. Not. People talk about element. You have a little wood quality and fire quality, which is kind of a. You can make things grow, but you can be pretty passionate too, which means you can burn yourself up.
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B
Yeah. A hundred percent makes sense.
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A
And that's.
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B
It's.
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A
That's great. Like, but now you know about yourself.
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B
And then also when you did the muscle test, when it came to my mom, the signal was weaker.
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A
It was weaker. Because this thing, when it's weaker, this is the one, like, you would take. Let's say you had an issue with your mom and I was doing this, like, yes, you had some weakness in your gallbladder. Like, yeah, I'm weak. I said, ex husband. And you're like, well, he has a frequency of husband that's resonating with my gallbladder. You kind of. You kind of strengthen up, because what you. You're at matching frequencies. When you match frequencies, you can actually cause a lot of amplitude, a lot of strength. When I said that, your body was like, oh, yeah, this is a lot of frequency in my body with my, yes, your mom could be involved. And I'd probably say that's another thing we have to check out.
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B
Right?
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A
I would assume, though, looking at your facial diagnosis right side, that your mom wanted to keep up appearances, possibly. And that was really hard on you, making people think that everything was okay or fine. Right. Guarantee your cheeks totally show. And your mom was like, everything's fine. Everything's okay. And you're like, no, it's not. You're just literally your eyes on the line. Because what happens is this area over here, we get a little bit of crease. It's not bad. You'll have happy lines in some ways. But it also shows you that she was completely worried all the time about what people think. I would.
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B
I can't really said. That's one of the things in South Asia, Indian and Pakistanis is Lokiya, Kenya, which means, what are people gonna. Like the baseliner for our culture. If you're Indian and Pakistanis, like, what are people doing? That's the truth we grow up hearing. So it's the one who said that. Because that's literally all they say. Oh, what will people think about this? And they're like, who gives a damn what anybody thinks about it? And our biggest arguments used to be with me saying, like, it does not matter what anybody thinks. You are unhappy. This is not working. Like, who cares what anybody outside thinks about this? That's the number one thing they will say to you. And any South Asians listening to this will know. And many sages, they're like, the parents will be like, look, like. That's literally what they say.
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A
I think it's funny because, like, my mom coming from, like, the farlands of Korea, they like, I love my mom no matter. She, like, yeah, an ornery little Korean woman. And if you ever watched a Korean movie, she's fired. Like your grandma. Yes, that's my mom. My mom would look and if I say something, she'll be like, whatever. And that's how she is. And you think that to impressive an Asian mom. A lot in press and they're always in and I'm have Korean. But it's about perfectionism, Korea. It's literally like, you got to be perfect. The kids. And a lot of kids get sick from that and everything. So I get what you're saying, though. It is. Culturally, I've had to tell myself, I'm asking, like when you were younger. I have found myself that I had this internal need to always please the adults and always please the culture and always, you know, do something for the family. And I realized, well, that's. It's in my blood. But I've also taken a step back and go, it isn't my responsibility to make every single person happy. No. If it makes me sick, I'm not doing it right. I'm with you 100%.
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B
I think it's like us figuring out as Asians, coming to our own sense of identity and authenticity. And in our cultures, there's not necessarily always been room for authenticity. Right. There's more about the blending in, being socially acceptable, saying the politically correct things. So the authenticity piece has been difficult for us to develop because authenticity is extremely personal to each individual.
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A
Wow. That's right.
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B
What one person is is not what another person is. And just like that, as speaking about this earlier value system, what one individual's value systems are does not mean you get them from your family, does not mean you get them from your spouse or your friends or your political party that you support or even social media. Our individual value systems are based on our individual programming and how we see the world.
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A
Definitely it is this a great point. I think that it is so tough when you realize that the way you have your programs running is going to change your view of reality. And I think that happens in health too. If some individuals have such programs running that their view of reality is that, you know, I can't get fixed or it only take. I'm only happy if my husband's happy, or I'm only happy if my kids
- [42:47]
B
are happy, or even people who have, like, toxic, you know, mental health issues are. They're volatile, they're. They're angry, they have a problem with addictions. They don't want to break those habits because they don't know what their identity root would be without him. So they get married into that. But then when you go back into what we spoke about today on the episode, talking about things like infections, childhood trauma, blocked energy in the body, it all goes back to those earlier years and diagnosing those to come to a better conclusion of your health. So then people can release that identity and attachment that they formed to really go back to their authentic.
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A
To reality, that is mind drawer. Because I think that when they go about your authentic reality, you showed your reality, your authenticity. When you're saying, I don't want anybody really telling me what to do.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And that's your personality and that's who you are. So, like, I would. I'm not talking about your parents. I would say, like, when you see a, you know, young one that has that authenticity, you want to accentuate it. You want to strengthen it.
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B
Not. Not an Asian parent.
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A
No, no, no.
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B
You get punished for that.
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A
No, it's exactly. I. And, you know, it's. I feel like if you had. What if we have parents that like new homeopathy and everything and knew our body and like, you like me, like, you got stomach, brother, you needed take this.
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B
Correct.
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A
But we're now doing it now.
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B
And, you know, it's so funny. Chris, until 2019, I had so many health problems. I was a sickly child. I was never well. I have. One of my ovaries was reconstructed. I used to get ovarian cysts. I always had an upset stomach. I was also always very clumsy, getting into accidents. I always had high ADHD. It was not until 2019 that I discovered functional medicine, alternative medicine, got into the acupuncture, got into the diagnostic testing, discovered a lot of candida in my system, started clearing that out, that my body started healing.
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A
Yes.
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B
I used to suffer from such chronic migraines that I couldn't get out of bed.
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A
Yes.
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B
And I was depleting. If you look at my face, I was depleted. I'd have dark circles. I was always like high energy, but tired, like, frantic energy. And I look at myself and I'm like, I went for so many years undiagnosed in the traditional medical system. System. And then I was looking for answers and came across and. Which is eventually why I built biohacket for myself and my. My mom who passed away from cancer to fight healing for myself.
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A
Yes. When you see yourself, like I'm asking, like, when you see those changes you made, do you get yourself a pat on the back? You're right. Definitely. I hope you do.
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B
I 100% do. Because so many issues that I Was having kind of started slowly going away. And obviously new issues have come up. And as I'm like, oh, I have an unregulated nervous system. But if you told me six years ago I had an unregulated nervous system, I wouldn't have been able to fix that. I didn't have the tool to. Now I have the tools and resources.
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A
That's a. Like, I love how you put about awareness, though. And I'm gonna reclose. I'm talking. I'm always careful because I know on our podcast, but I'm gonna say this, but when you become more aware about what dysregulates you, I think it's probably one of the biggest steps in the journey. And. And do you ever find that all the steps you're taking for people out there and you realize that sometimes I have to heal my. My body, I could get this thing healed out because I'm such a nerve's end, you're thinking, well, if I do this, I got to get this healed up. And there may be steps along the way where you think, well, maybe I made a mistake or maybe I did this or that and I should. It's. You're part of the journey.
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B
Yeah, it's all part of it.
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A
You don't have to do it.
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B
Things that you have to do.
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A
You're right. You can't recognize with a clear, objective viewpoint if you're fried.
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B
Right.
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A
So you can't get yourself out of it.
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B
And you need to get rid of anything that's going to drain you or deplete you. And even if that's a relationship, he's at a clean house.
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A
It's like one of the things you and I studied before. But I'll say this, if there's something that is literally tagged onto you or draining you of energy, remember that your biofield, your energetic fields, have a lot of membranes, a lot of pores. They'll allow certain frequencies in and they'll let certain frequencies out. But if you're sealed and you're. You're not aware of it, you'll keep allowing that attachment. The more you're aware, the more you close off the pores or you rearrange them to help you heal.
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B
So what is the danger of the scorched earth approach to killing infections with heavy antibiotics versus your method of balancing the body's meridians?
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A
First, if you kill off everything too quickly, you will overload all your drainage pathways. So if you do a scorched earth, if you kill off the antibiotics, you'll Overload liver and kidneys and bladder primarily. And if you get those, you will actually overload your large intestine system really, really heavily. So then it'll start coming out of your skin, your pores, your body odor, it'll come out of your teeth, it'll make you have taste in your mouth, come out of your earwax. You have to. When you use scorch dirt, remember, try to find a few single infections and use some herbals to help clean them off and layer.
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B
What is the number one hidden source of infection in the average American household that most people never think to check?
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A
Oh man, they probably know, but they crazy. I would say top, not top three, but three of them. E. Coli, salmonella, strep. Those are top three.
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B
People think where should they be? Where should they find this? Is it in their pets? Is it in their water filters? Is it in the H Vac? Like where can they look for it?
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A
Salmonella will come from everybody blends chicken eggs, which usually from eating a lot of produce that can have, can contain it. And it's not a bad bacteria, just overgrows, you know, from other people. Strep, you're going to get them from other people and primarily when you're very young or from the parent. That's where you get strep from most times in breast milk. Anthru they say it can go cross central. And if you have any type of E. Coli, you definitely can get them other people. Sometimes you get them a lot in the groundwater. So if you have dirty water sources like you read some of these ice water. Oh yeah, they've got E. Coli.
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B
Yeah. By the way guys, if you're listening to this and you have been drinking tap water, please go to the EWG website. You will never drink tap water again in America. Herbicides, pesticides, hormones, birth control pills, you, heavy metals, like you name it, it's in there. And some states have like the dirtiest water you can possibly think of. Florida is actually one of them. Florida has a terrible top one. And New York, everyone's like New York's finest. I'm like New York's finest. What infections they were getting out of this?
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A
No, I've had some patients that come in that such high E Coli counts and they would tell me stories that they would get the city water record and they didn't realize why they were living there. One was up in the northwest. You think it's be clean. And they said no, our city didn't tell us that there was high E Coli breakouts in the city water for years. I was like. And, you know, they wonder where they get it.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And it blows them out and they're sick. So, I mean, there's more guys, but I would say. And another one I'm going to tell you. When you find H. Pylori, I want to tell you, if your parents had GERD inflammation in their gut and you have it, please check for H. Pylori or salmonella. I'm telling you, it's hiding. You got to find it.
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B
H. Pylori and GERD are very, very common in Asians.
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A
Oh.
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B
Any cultures that come from big agriculture, farming cultures.
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A
Oh, man, it's great.
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B
So you're talking about Korea, you're talking about China, you're talking about India, Pakistan, Bangladesh. We have a lot of farming, so it's very, very dominant with us.
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A
Isn't it crazy how they go to my sections?
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B
Yeah.
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A
And now, whenever you find all those little hidden infections, I want you guys not to live in fear. It's not about fear of being afraid, but when you see those small things on your lab reports or you get some testing done, there are ways to clean it up. I would say a first start with homeopathic remedies. I'm just do them for almost three to six months, but don't push them aside and think they'll just go away. They can last for years.
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B
Chris, where can people find you? Because you're fabulous and amazing. I'm so big friends with you. Oh.
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A
I mean, we're. Oh, this is such a fun episode. Seriously, this Dr. Motley. Spelled out Dr. Motley you can find on Facebook, Instagram, websites, @DrMotley.
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B
And yeah, an amazing show yourself. An amazing podcast.
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A
ATL podcast. We're doing, like a new studio revision right now, but we're going to hit it even harder this year. So I appreciate you going to be online. This is going to be awesome.
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B
I love meeting you. And you have such a unique, individual approach to how you're assessing people, diagnosing them. And you're so warm and approachable at the same time. I was like, I have to bring this man on the show. And thank you for your front show.
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A
Oh, you too. I think it's like whenever you have people that are long Sam.