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Turner Sparks
I'm a white person who lives in Bed Stuy, Brooklyn. And I'm constantly aware that the locals view me as a gentrifier and that I don't belong. What can I do? I guess to fit in?
Phil Duckett
Go back to where you came from. What could I do? Have you ever had a question you wanted to ask opposite race but you were too nervous to ask?
Turner Sparks
I'm Turner Sparks.
Phil Duckett
And I'm Phil Duckett.
Turner Sparks
And this is Black and White Advice.
Phil Duckett
Where we answer all your questions about race, even the scary ones.
Turner Sparks
This is black and white Advice.
Phil Duckett
You've got a question but you're scared to ask.
Turner Sparks
Just drop the boys a message. Cause they're up to the test.
Phil Duckett
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Turner Sparks
They ain't always nice but you can't think twice. Black and White Advice. What's up, everybody? I'm Turner Sparks.
Phil Duckett
And I'm Phil Duckett.
Turner Sparks
Welcome back to the show. We got a lot coming up for you today. We have your black and white advice questions. We got White lies and dark truths coming up later with Joe Russell. But before all that, right now we have a brand new game called Name the Criminal.
Phil Duckett
Oh, and I'm, I'm pretty good at this, guys. I'm not gonna lie to y'all.
Joe Russell
I made sure I found some like, kind of confusing ones, guys. So I was wondering if they were.
Phil Duckett
Going to be black and white or were you going to really challenge us?
Joe Russell
I'm going to challenge you.
Turner Sparks
So the idea being Joe went and found a bunch of criminal story, crime stories, and then all from the New.
Joe Russell
York Post, by the way, all from.
Turner Sparks
The New York Post, the paper of record. And then we need to. We're going to have to decide if it's. Could it be any race or is this just a black. We have to decide the race.
Joe Russell
So we will do different races in the future, but the first time out the gate, it's going to be black and white. And then I also want you to guess for bonus points if it's a male or female.
Phil Duckett
Okay?
Turner Sparks
Okay, sounds good.
Joe Russell
Halloween mask wearing duo nabbed for stealing 8k in magic the Gathering cards from a comic book store.
Phil Duckett
White male.
Turner Sparks
Is nerd a race?
Phil Duckett
Yeah, white male, 100%. Lives in his mom's basement.
Turner Sparks
Yeah, but it's a duo.
Phil Duckett
There's two white males.
Turner Sparks
Oh, okay. Yeah, I thought it was like a lovers magic.
Phil Duckett
Lovers kind of hang together. It's, you know, I mean, like this a tight knit group. Ask Joe.
Turner Sparks
Well, that's. It is called Magic the Gathering. So it's More than one person.
Phil Duckett
What is that, like Dungeons and Dragons or some shit?
Turner Sparks
I think it's for. Yeah, but if you're, like, an extra nerd. Did you have magic kids at your high school? Magic the Gathering kids?
Phil Duckett
I'm sure we did, but bullying wasn't outlawed yet, so we killed them. Oh, we murdered them.
Turner Sparks
Was that South Carolina going to school? Yeah, South Carolina high school, man.
Phil Duckett
We don't like a lot of bullshit, pretty cookie cutout people.
Turner Sparks
They would always be around a corner, no matter where you were. If you came around a corner, you'd run into, like, eight kids playing Magic.
Phil Duckett
The Gathering, black trenches.
Turner Sparks
And they. Black trench coats, like, loading their gun.
Phil Duckett
Yeah, for sure. And you knew where they were going to be at every day, ready to.
Turner Sparks
Shoot up a school.
Phil Duckett
Yeah.
Turner Sparks
And rarely they was. It was all dudes. It was never. There was never, like, females in the bunch, at least. Well, no, now that I think about it, I wouldn't.
Phil Duckett
There was always. There was always a couple weird chicks that hung out with.
Turner Sparks
Oh, there were a couple weirdos.
Phil Duckett
Yeah. Always a couple of weird chicks that I would hang out with. Them. Yeah.
Turner Sparks
All right. What do you think, Phil?
Phil Duckett
I said two white males.
Turner Sparks
Oh, two white males. I think this is Joe trying to throw us off. And this is going to be the rare. This is going to be the black nerds. So I'm going to go black. Black nerd. Oh, and also, we just know it's 2p. Oh, yeah.
Phil Duckett
The duo.
Turner Sparks
The duo. I'll go to black males.
Joe Russell
Phil, you're correct.
Phil Duckett
Thank you. Yep. Trying to trick you. Trying to trick you.
Turner Sparks
I didn't know we were starting easy.
Phil Duckett
This is right there in front of you.
Joe Russell
It was like the 100 question from millionaires.
Turner Sparks
Okay. Okay.
Phil Duckett
That's what he wants me to pick.
Turner Sparks
Yeah, I would. I would have guessed wrong.
Joe Russell
All right, number two. A hungry prowler was arrested after breaking into Wisconsin home to cook shrimp and pasta dinner.
Turner Sparks
Shrimp and pasta. Do I guess first on this one?
Joe Russell
Sure.
Turner Sparks
Shrimp and pasta to me sounds very, like, white, because it's kind of the thing your mom would always cook when there just wasn't much. Like. All right, what do we got in the fridge? Yeah, and there's, like, shrimp from two weeks ago. And then, you know, if she cooks it long enough, at some point it'll turn pink. And then. And it's grayish pink when you're eating it. And then pasta is just like. There's always pasta somewhere around.
Phil Duckett
They said. They said shrimp and pasta is what he made. They didn't Say shrimp linguini. So he's not white.
Turner Sparks
Shrimp and pasta.
Phil Duckett
Wait, but this is the guy who broke.
Turner Sparks
The criminal broke into the house and.
Phil Duckett
Then made a dish.
Joe Russell
Yeah. A hungry prowler arrested after breaking into a house.
Turner Sparks
I think it's gonna be white people because, like, it's. It harkens. It's a childhood thing.
Phil Duckett
Yeah.
Turner Sparks
If you look around a house, if you. If they got shrimp, they got pasta. You go, yeah, I could figure something out.
Phil Duckett
I think you're about to be over 2. I'm going black male.
Turner Sparks
I'm gonna go white male.
Joe Russell
So it is a white person, but is a white woman that did it a white woman with dreadlocks?
Turner Sparks
Oh, that's basically always.
Phil Duckett
That's basically what? Black.
Turner Sparks
That's basically a black person.
Phil Duckett
No, I'm like, basically what? Hell, no.
Turner Sparks
I have a question for Phil. Is there anyone more despised by the black community than white people with dreadlocks?
Phil Duckett
I hate. I hate white dreads. I hate white. You know, because I don't think people realize why, like, black hair is naturally, like, crinkly, like, coarser. It locks very quickly. Like, you don't brush and you just leave it with the. Well, it's going a lot for white people to lock their hair. Do you know how nasty you got to be? Like, you know how much dirt and soot and oily it has to get for it to even get to that type of texture? Because yalls hair is too fine.
Turner Sparks
Yeah. You got to put it in.
Phil Duckett
You have to. And then you have to, like, not bathe because, you know, y'all get your hair wet. They would come out. So they're not bathing for not only.
Turner Sparks
Not bathing, they're adding peanut butter and to the hair.
Phil Duckett
I don't think they use peanut butter.
Turner Sparks
You don't think it's peanut butter?
Phil Duckett
It's beeswax. What most people use.
Turner Sparks
Is that what it is?
Phil Duckett
It's beeswax. But I'm like, peanut butter.
Turner Sparks
Something gross.
Phil Duckett
That's going to be on the white lies. Peanut butter.
Turner Sparks
I'm pretty sure it's peanut butter. How do you know this? Have you. Because you are. You address back in 2006. Look at that.
Phil Duckett
Yeah.
Turner Sparks
So that's pretty good. Did they. How did they smell?
Phil Duckett
Mine smell fine. But I mean. I mean, any. All of them. If you. If you wash a regular. If you see those big ones that look all messy and the two dreads in there, those a lot of times stinking stuff. Because they're not washing.
Turner Sparks
Here's a question. What about because you Know Adam Diritz? He's the lead singer of counting crows.
Phil Duckett
Yeah, Mr. Jones and me.
Turner Sparks
Mr. Jones and me.
Phil Duckett
Yeah.
Turner Sparks
He's Jewish.
Phil Duckett
I met him.
Turner Sparks
I thought he was black, for I did Forever.
Phil Duckett
I thought he was, too.
Turner Sparks
No, no. He's like a white, but a Jewish guy. But he has threads. You met him.
Phil Duckett
He was at the show. At the Pair, like, two years ago.
Turner Sparks
No, he was not at the Pair.
Phil Duckett
I love.
Turner Sparks
I went to see him. I've seen him in New York.
Phil Duckett
I was wild. Cause they were like. I was like, Mr. Jones. That's what I said to him. I said, Mr. Jones.
Turner Sparks
So does my. Here's my. That's funny. You see, Mr. Jones.
Phil Duckett
White black people we don't know the name of. We just. We call you. What you were in the movie.
Turner Sparks
You call him Mr. Jones.
Phil Duckett
Mr. Jones, man. What's up, buddy? That's how we do it.
Turner Sparks
But he had a. So essentially, does the Jew fro. Cause that's like.
Phil Duckett
That's. That's their. That's their.
Turner Sparks
I think you could get. That's what I'm saying. I mean, the pro.
Phil Duckett
The pro is the natural look you have to do to get dread.
Turner Sparks
To dread out the Jew from.
Phil Duckett
Yeah, white hair just ain't naturally dreading.
Turner Sparks
All right, so they don't get a pass. The Jews. Fuck.
Phil Duckett
Yeah, They've maybe. I don't know. I don't want to get canceled. We still need to make it. You know, they control this shit.
Turner Sparks
Oh, boy. Oh, boy. I like how you say, I don't want to get canceled, and then you say, Jews control the media.
Phil Duckett
Listen, man, all I'm saying is this is on this type of shit, and I. Because I don't. And I think Kanye is unhinged, and I think he said some wild shit. But for him to say Jews are in the media, and then they blacklist him from being in the media. He lit. They. They proved his literal point. Which kind of crazy.
Turner Sparks
It's not the best way to. Yeah.
Phil Duckett
So now we take everything from you. So what he said was accurate.
Turner Sparks
He also said that. He said, like, Jewish doctors.
Phil Duckett
Yeah. He said. That's what I'm saying.
Turner Sparks
Trying to kill you.
Phil Duckett
You know what I mean?
Turner Sparks
Like, Hitler was good, right?
Phil Duckett
I didn't agree with none of that. One thing that he did. And then they went by showing him that we do run out.
Turner Sparks
More than one thing. You're picking out. Okay. One of the one thing.
Phil Duckett
One of the one. That was the only thing that he said. I was like, that's not that crazy.
Turner Sparks
And then it happened.
Phil Duckett
Yeah, I was like, this kind of seems accurate then, right?
Turner Sparks
Listen, if you got the hammer, use it. Next. Okay, go ahead.
Joe Russell
Okay, last one. In America, there's a sitting mayor who's just been charged with illegally accepting over $100,000 from a foreign government. Is he white or black?
Turner Sparks
Nah.
Phil Duckett
I'll see you in Rikers. Eric Adams.
Turner Sparks
Listen, Turkish money spends just like anyone else's.
Phil Duckett
I called him being dirty from the time he got.
Turner Sparks
Everyone did. Everyone knew he was a criminal when he got elected.
Phil Duckett
Yeah, I was. I. Something didn't seem right. I was like, he don't seem stand up.
Turner Sparks
He's also out every single night partying.
Phil Duckett
And every time there's a photo op, he's like, yeah, I've noticed that he's.
Turner Sparks
Been on like a two. I think he's been in there for two years. He's been on this two year victory tour. Like, he thought once he won, that was the end of his job.
Phil Duckett
Yeah, that's.
Turner Sparks
Yeah, his job was to win, and now he's just celebrating out.
Phil Duckett
He's like.
Turner Sparks
It's like a Disneyland parade when we win the super bowl, but for two years long.
Phil Duckett
Meanwhile, the subway's $2.90 and it's getting later by the minute. So I don't know what are we doing?
Turner Sparks
Yeah.
Phil Duckett
Yeah.
Joe Russell
So is he white or black?
Turner Sparks
Shout out to Eric Adams. He's still our mayor, by the way. Biden's still our president and Eric Adams is still our.
Phil Duckett
America is in shambles.
Turner Sparks
How about that?
Phil Duckett
America's in sh.
Turner Sparks
About that.
Phil Duckett
Period.
Turner Sparks
All right. All right.
Joe Russell
Good job, guys.
Turner Sparks
Thank you, Joe Russell. We will be right back with your black and white advice questions.
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Turner Sparks
All right, we're back. First question, woo comes to us from Jordan in Chicago. Jordan wants to know why. What, excuse me, what is white people's obsession with the royal family?
Phil Duckett
Great question, great question. I have always had that question. I wish I knew why.
Turner Sparks
I've had the answer to this for a very long time.
Phil Duckett
Let you take it.
Turner Sparks
So my fan, my mom, first of all, when you say white people, I, and I think I'm fair. It's white women. I don't know white men who sit down to watch the royal wedding like it's Super Bowl. But I don't know white women who don't do that.
Phil Duckett
Right.
Turner Sparks
Every white woman I know in my life, my mother, that's probably the only white woman I know. My wife's Chinese.
Phil Duckett
Yes.
Turner Sparks
But anyway, they love, they love the royal family. They love the royal wedding. They love England specifically. But any type of royalty. Here's why. First of all, loved colonization. Yeah.
Phil Duckett
That's what it is.
Turner Sparks
Simply fans of colonizing. And you know, because when people go, everyone when they're like 19, they want to go to Europe and live in like a colonial town and that they always talk about colonial, like went on vacation. Oh, it was like we were in Thailand. But it was formerly a French colony. So all the architecture was French.
Phil Duckett
Yeah.
Turner Sparks
And that's presented as a positive. Not like they slaughtered.
Phil Duckett
They ruined the whole culture.
Turner Sparks
Local people.
Phil Duckett
Right.
Turner Sparks
And then built a couple houses and. But now it's like a boutique hotel that you can pay like a thousand.
Phil Duckett
That they let them work in, but they could never afford to stay there.
Turner Sparks
Yeah, yeah. So we love colonizing. That's big with our people. And then secondly, women want to be princesses. This is the Disney culture of it all.
Phil Duckett
Got you this Is real life. Adult Disney adult.
Turner Sparks
Becoming a princess is the white female version of a man wanting to. If you win the super bowl, if you're. I made it to the NFL. Not only did I make the NFL, I'm now winning the Super Bowl. I'm the best player. I can have this ring for the rest of my life. That's who Meghan Markle is, a hero.
Phil Duckett
I was about to say no. That's why y'all gave Megan such a hard time. All these white women who dreamed of being a princess one day see Meghan come in, strutting that little melanin she got, and they're like, this black bitch stole my dream.
Turner Sparks
Well. Well, I don't. I. Every single white woman I know, this is where it comes into different kinds of white people.
Phil Duckett
Yeah.
Turner Sparks
They obsessively love Meghan Markle.
Phil Duckett
I thought Megan Marco was dope. I loved her in suits. She was fine as hell. So, you know, I mean, I didn't really. But I didn't like how they did her and then made. You know, made them leave the family and shit. It's because they didn't want no chocolate in that damn royal bloodline.
Turner Sparks
Oh, of course. The royal family.
Phil Duckett
Yeah. They're all inbred. Look at the new dude. What's his name? Charles.
Turner Sparks
Yeah, of course. Those buck teeth.
Phil Duckett
Buddy, let me tell you, there is inbreeding 101.
Turner Sparks
I do think it was a little naive on Meghan Markle's to think that.
Phil Duckett
Her black ass would be accepted.
Turner Sparks
Yes.
Phil Duckett
And then her mama came out looking like Whoopi Goldberg. Just a beautiful black woman. But I was like, you thought they was going to let this black lady make collard greens in Buckingham Palace?
Turner Sparks
Yeah, it was. It was never going to. And then when she came back and she did the Oprah interview, and she's like, oprah, you're never going to believe it, but the royal family is a racist. And it's like. And then Oprah acted like she was shocked. She was like, what are you. Are you telling me the truth? It's like, oprah, you're smart. You're one of the. I thought we had just all accepted a long time ago that the. Of course, the royal family of England, the one who colonized the world.
Phil Duckett
Yeah. Doesn't like non whites. Yeah.
Turner Sparks
What did you. Have you read a history book?
Phil Duckett
Yeah, but that's why it was just kind of.
Turner Sparks
Yeah.
Phil Duckett
It was a whole situation.
Turner Sparks
Anyway, so that's why people love also. Have you ever heard of this? Still, I think, put it in Perspective. You ever heard of Queen Noor of Jordan?
Phil Duckett
Why does that. Game of Thrones.
Turner Sparks
No, this is a real life person.
Phil Duckett
Got it. Okay.
Turner Sparks
So to a white American lady who, in growing up in my family, in. In a white mother in California in the 80s and 90s, we learned all about Queen Nor. She was like, this something to aspire to because she was a white lady who. The king of Jordan was business partners with her dad in America for something. And then his wife died or he got divorced or something. And then he married his business partner's daughter who was like, 30 years younger than him.
Phil Duckett
Was this in, like, 1800s?
Turner Sparks
No, this was in, like, 1996.
Phil Duckett
Oh, wow.
Turner Sparks
And then all of a sudden, she became the princess of Jordan because she. And maybe even Queen of Jordan. Queen. Queen. Speaking of the Queen of Jordan. And did some charity work so then that she's like a hero to white women because it's like, oh, my God, we could all become a queen.
Phil Duckett
Yeah, we could all be. This could just marry the right guy. Sure.
Turner Sparks
Jordan. What do we care? We get. We never heard of the country, but y. In. I will do that.
Phil Duckett
That's pretty sick, though.
Turner Sparks
It is a pretty baller move. And so now their kid. Her kids are like, actually, this. Her kids are, like, in their 30s, maybe now, early 40s. And they're all the princes of Jordan, but they're, like, basically American, you know, And I've heard stories that they. Russell Peters will perform for them privately when he goes over there to do tours. He'll also do private shows at, like, the princess. He's, like, best friends with the princes. Now, that's pretty. I mean, best friends, they'll, like.
Phil Duckett
They'll throw them some call, just do a private show. Yeah, it's just me, Beyonce, Jay Z, just doing a little show for them. They want to hear the new stuff.
Turner Sparks
Come to the palace. Yeah, like, come to the castle.
Phil Duckett
That's gotta be sick. Okay. I didn't know. I've never heard of this Queen Nora.
Turner Sparks
So that's it. The white people, we grow up idolizing.
Phil Duckett
Yeah. Okay.
Turner Sparks
This is the height.
Phil Duckett
We have NBA players, and y'all have.
Turner Sparks
Yeah, you got Kobe, we got Queen Nora.
Phil Duckett
Yeah, I'll take the king.
Turner Sparks
And we got Vladimir, Vladi. Z. God. So anyway, why we love her. I think I answered, why you did.
Phil Duckett
I literally didn't have any really, input on this, because I was listening to the answer. Because as soon as you read the question, I was like, I've always growing up.
Turner Sparks
Did your family ever watch the royal wedding any of the royal weddings as a family.
Phil Duckett
Black people. You think we give a damn about what rich white folks is doing with their marriages? We got bills to pay over here. I ain't got time to worry about the Right.
Turner Sparks
What about what.
Phil Duckett
Where were you when Princess Diana got killed?
Turner Sparks
Yeah. Well, was that a big deal?
Phil Duckett
It was a big deal for the world. I was eight years old. I. I didn't know what happened. Now that I'm older, you know, I've, like, read up on it, because I was always wondering, because I remember being very big deal, and I was like, why is it? She got in a car accident, which was sad, but I. And then my mom's like, well, she was the royal. She was supposed to be the queen. And so I was like, oh. So I remember. And then as I got older, I was like, oh, they killed Diana.
Turner Sparks
They killed her. They killed because she left her. Because she got divorced and she was dating, like, a Middle Eastern.
Phil Duckett
Yeah.
Turner Sparks
Like an Egyptian prince or something.
Phil Duckett
Got her ass up out of there.
Turner Sparks
Yeah, you think?
Phil Duckett
Yeah.
Turner Sparks
And then again, Meghan Markle's like, wait a second. They're not treating me well.
Phil Duckett
Can you kill their own.
Turner Sparks
Megan killed the last lady.
Phil Duckett
Yeah. Yeah. And that's what I wonder if this kid. If the sons know. I wonder if that's why William so, like, easily able to step away from the family. Like, man, y'all up.
Turner Sparks
Why he took her to America.
Phil Duckett
Yeah. Because I think.
Turner Sparks
You think he knows his mom. They killed his mom.
Phil Duckett
Yeah. That's wild.
Turner Sparks
Wild.
Phil Duckett
Well, I didn't know she was divorced. She had divorced.
Turner Sparks
She had already gotten divorced, which is highly not allowed.
Phil Duckett
Yeah.
Turner Sparks
So she gets divorced, and then. Not only that, but then starts dating an Egyptian guy. And they're like, okay, okay.
Phil Duckett
That's African. She was dating a black man.
Turner Sparks
She was dating a North African out of here. Yeah.
Phil Duckett
And that's why he got with Megan, out of spite. He's like, I'm getting me a sister, too.
Turner Sparks
Yeah.
Phil Duckett
See if they'll kill me.
Turner Sparks
Well, they were probably going, if he.
Phil Duckett
Didn'T get out of there, he would have had a slip and fall in the palace.
Turner Sparks
Turns out she's right. Spotify, she got a bunch of money and did nothing for them, of course. And Netflix, I believe, for she had suits already. She turns out the princess is doing fine.
Phil Duckett
Yeah. News to us. The princess ain't hurting.
Turner Sparks
All right, next question. Good one, Jordan. I like the question, by the way. Name, Jordan. That's ironic. James. In Florida, I'm going to my first black wedding. What is a Proper amount of money to spend on the gift.
Phil Duckett
Well, I don't. I mean, don't cheap out on them, but it. They normally have a registry. Buddy, why don't you just get something off the list? What, are you just gonna freestyle it? I mean, we're gonna freestyle and get him a car, get him a card in. But they normally have a wedding registry, and then you can find something within your.
Turner Sparks
What do you normally spend on a gift?
Phil Duckett
What I can afford. I'm not going broke trying to impress nobody.
Turner Sparks
I think I'm at this point, I'm like 50 to 100 bucks. 100 bucks? Depends on how well I know.
Phil Duckett
And that's the end. Yeah, but like, 50 to 100 bucks, and I'm not afraid of getting the cheapest thing on your list. You still need it, you know?
Joe Russell
Why would a black wedding gift be different than a white wedding gift? Amount of money?
Phil Duckett
I don't know.
Turner Sparks
I don't know.
Phil Duckett
That's what I was kind of curious about, but that's why I was like, the whole situation seems fucked up. He's like, oh, well, the white wedding, they get 400. The Black Wedding, we got Amazon gift cards. Like, why can't we get the money? But no, I think it just depends on what type of person you are.
Turner Sparks
Okay.
Phil Duckett
And what your financial situation is, you know?
Turner Sparks
But that just sounds exactly like any wedding.
Phil Duckett
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I've never, like, tried to break the. Break the bank for a wedding gift.
Turner Sparks
Yeah. The people who put those, like, 500 things on the registry, that's just for, like, grandma, right?
Phil Duckett
Yeah.
Turner Sparks
Somebody close relatives about to die, and they're like, you're going to be getting this money anyway, Right, In a couple years. So let me just get real close.
Phil Duckett
That's what saying. Nobody.
Turner Sparks
500 bucks now. Next question.
Phil Duckett
Absolutely.
Turner Sparks
Keith in Brooklyn. Oh, this is a good one. I'm a white person who lives in Bed Stuy, Brooklyn, and I'm constantly aware that the locals view me as a gentrifier and that I don't belong. What do. What can I do? I guess to fit in.
Phil Duckett
Go back to where you came from. What could I do? Seems pretty simple.
Turner Sparks
I will say Bed Stuy's only. I don't want to give out exactly where I live and where we are right now. But it's only a few neighborhoods away, right?
Phil Duckett
Yeah. And. But the thing is, I don't feel.
Turner Sparks
Like I don't belong here. But this is a different.
Phil Duckett
Yeah, no, this whole building, you know, this is a different this is a different area of town. Yeah, I mean that. I'm not sure if it was ever. I'm sure at one point it was a crack neighborhood, but probably not. Not. But Bed Stuy was a real black, like, strong black neighborhood back in the day.
Turner Sparks
Bedside do or die, if I remember correctly.
Phil Duckett
Exactly. So now, yeah, the people that grew up there, it looks nothing like how they remember. So they're going to keep staring at you like that. You just got to prove to them that you're a nice guy and you know, you're in the neighborhood. Like I'm be honest, most time black people, we don't just bother people to bother them. You know what I mean? Like when this is the difference, I'm be honest. This is how I feel. White people wake up mad at the world and just start waking up and start shooting. That's what y'all do. Black people, when you get killed, it's out of money, drugs, or respect. That's normally the three things that get you. Other than that, we just, we don't. We got too much going on to just be walking up on white people like, you know, again, money, drugs, respect, you know.
Turner Sparks
What do you mean by respect?
Phil Duckett
Disrespect. Like you.
Turner Sparks
Oh, disrespect.
Phil Duckett
Yeah.
Turner Sparks
Okay.
Phil Duckett
Lack of respect there. Yeah, that's what. That'll get you hurt, you know? You know, I mean, but you mean if you see like we don't go into post offices just gunning down co workers and go. You know what I mean? Like, that is so I think that's what I'm saying. You don't have anything to worry about. They might look at you because they're like, look, another one. But it is what it is. You knew you were a gentrifier when you signed the lease.
Turner Sparks
Yeah, exactly.
Phil Duckett
So don't feel weird now.
Turner Sparks
And is it.
Phil Duckett
That.
Turner Sparks
Is gentrifying wrong.
Phil Duckett
So this is a, like a, I guess like double sided quote because. Yes and no. You know what I mean here. Gentrification would not be wrong if they gentrified a neighborhood and then it was still affordable enough for the people who were from that neighborhood to still live in that neighborhood.
Turner Sparks
Yeah.
Phil Duckett
The reason gentrification sucks is the neighborhood. Nobody gives a fuck about these black neighborhoods the whole time they're black. Soon as enough white people move in and they start changing shit and making it nice. Now y'all want to take all the culture, all the history and call it your own, Change the name. And then the people that made it what it is can't Even be in this vicinity without the cops bothering or what. They can't. You know what I mean? Like, it's like, that's what makes gentrification so messed up if you did it. So you were just renovating a neighborhood. Yeah, yeah, that'd be great. I mean, you. These. A lot of these neighborhoods need to be gentrified. That's what. Like, they need new businesses. They need.
Turner Sparks
Yeah, they need. Like, everyone jokes about the cupcake shop. That's like an old bit. But you do need something. Somebody to rent the spaces on the street corner. It's not empty.
Phil Duckett
So. That's what I'm saying. It's a weird thing, because. Yeah, no, I don't mind. Because, I mean, I live in a gentrified neighborhood, but I'm giving back to my community. That's why I always. I'm the one brother in that area.
Turner Sparks
You're giving back by staying.
Phil Duckett
Yeah, yeah. There's still some relics of home.
Turner Sparks
Yeah.
Phil Duckett
You know?
Turner Sparks
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Phil Duckett
But. Yeah, that. I don't know, man. Yeah, it's one of those things. For me to.
Turner Sparks
My favorite thing about living in a. I would say this is like a mixed neighborhood. Where I live right now is like, all the old black grandmas there. It's. It's a type of person I never would have run into before.
Phil Duckett
Yeah. Grandma.
Turner Sparks
I mean, I lived in China for 12 years before that. I grew up in, like, a white suburb.
Phil Duckett
Yeah.
Turner Sparks
And they're the most hilarious people.
Phil Duckett
Black grandmas are the absolute best.
Turner Sparks
And fun and. Well, like, funny, too funny and. Well, there's people that we know in our neighborhood now who, every time you see them, they'll just fill you in on talking shit about everybody.
Phil Duckett
Yeah. And it's the best when they start giving you the tea. Oh, run down everything. Well, you know she's cheating on her.
Turner Sparks
Yeah. It's all that kind of stuff. And it's like. It's all about not only the other grandma on the other side of the street, but her kids.
Phil Duckett
Oh, kids ain't shit. Mom was. No, she knows she strung out on drugs, bless her. Yeah.
Turner Sparks
And it's all nicknames because you talk with. I'm like, do you know that lady you talking about? Crazy Kathy?
Phil Duckett
Crazy.
Turner Sparks
Who doesn't know? Of course I know.
Phil Duckett
Crazy Ben had a nickname for it. Yeah. That is Top. And the thing is, they just want conversation because they're normally lonely, too, so it gives them a chance.
Turner Sparks
It's the best.
Phil Duckett
Yeah. I do enjoy.
Turner Sparks
And being a comedian, I'm home all day, so, like, I'm the one on the street who can mix it up. Everybody else is, like, at work. Their kids are at work. All the other neighbors are in some office somewhere. I'm just hanging out in the courtyard, being like, yeah, let's hang out shucking.
Phil Duckett
Peas with an old black lady.
Turner Sparks
They're all my new best friends now.
Phil Duckett
I like that.
Turner Sparks
There's a lady down there on our floor who. The other day, she was like, this is like six months ago. She goes, hey, Turner, there's an election tomorrow, and I'm running a local election. I'm like, all right, cool. She's like, you gotta vote for me. I'm like, done. I'll vote for you. And then I sat there on this. On the. In the courtyard with her. Every single person who walked by, she just stops him. She goes, hey, this is my name. I'm running. There's an election. No one even knew there was an election. It was local only. She goes, there's an election tomorrow. Vote for me. There's an election tomorrow.
Phil Duckett
Vote for you.
Turner Sparks
She said about 10, 15 times in the 10 minutes we were there, and every single person was like, yeah, okay, why not? I didn't know. No one asked. What's her politics?
Phil Duckett
Yeah, yeah.
Turner Sparks
What are we running for? It's just like, yeah, we'll vote. And then, guess what? I voted for her. I see her two weeks later, I'm like, how'd you do in the election? She goes, I won. Now she's like, our comptroller or something.
Phil Duckett
Really?
Turner Sparks
I don't know what it is.
Phil Duckett
So you're in Now I'm in.
Turner Sparks
Oh, yeah. So now I have a. I have a. What do I have? A link to power so I can start really grinding.
Phil Duckett
Eric Adams got started. That's awesome.
Turner Sparks
I'm gonna make Grandma the new Eric Adams.
Phil Duckett
That'd be sick. She'd love it, too.
Turner Sparks
All right, last one. Let's see another question. I don't know if this is the last one or not. This comes from Jack and Buffalo.
Phil Duckett
He says, the whole setup of that question was outrageous.
Turner Sparks
What do you mean?
Phil Duckett
I thought it was going to be some nasty. You said this comes from Jack. Involves, like. What are you about to say? What is really about to happen right now?
Turner Sparks
I was trying to find where it was on my computer.
Phil Duckett
Jack. I was like, off.
Turner Sparks
Jack in Buffalo wants to know, why do black people only smoke menthols?
Phil Duckett
Have you ever hit a menthol? It's a very cool sensation in your mouth. Pause. And we cool people, so we gonna do the coolest shit you can do. We're gonna take the coolest version of it. Like, you know, Newports is just. I'm just making shit up. And be honest with you, I have no idea why we love menthols, but I love a good menthol. If I'm gonna have one, I'm probably gonna take a menthol over a regular. I mean, I do like, but I don't like smoking cigs. But if I'm drunk and they somebody gives me a cigarette. Yeah, I'd prefer it.
Turner Sparks
I've never smoked a cigarette of any kind in my life.
Phil Duckett
You're adorable.
Turner Sparks
Never really are.
Phil Duckett
I always had my first cigarette when I was eight, I think. Eight, I think. No, I was. I was. No, my uncle gave me my first cigar and I was nine. So.
Turner Sparks
Yeah, Seriously?
Phil Duckett
Yeah, we had a car show. Car and bike show. There's girls walking around in thongs. And he gave me. He lit up a Swisher suite. He's like, you want one? I'm like, yeah.
Turner Sparks
Casually. Not even like, hey, this would be crazy. Just like, oh, I should. It would be rude because he had.
Phil Duckett
Stolen some before but got caught. So he already knew I was thinking about smoking at nine years old. He was like, you gonna do it?
Turner Sparks
Do you know how small like a 9 year old child looks? Can you imagine giving a 9 year.
Phil Duckett
Old no to this day? He's like, you should have seen. He's like, I've never been more proud of you.
Turner Sparks
He's like.
Phil Duckett
He was walking through that. He was like puffing that cigar like a grown ass. I said, the fact that they didn't.
Turner Sparks
Lock you up totally in public. This wasn't like at Christmas when no one was around.
Phil Duckett
No. But we were also in Winnsboro, South Carolina at a car show. Car and bike show. So it is the hood rims, spinners, you know, I mean like it was.
Turner Sparks
That type of everything's leak that's basically international water.
Phil Duckett
Yeah, buddy, let me tell you. So I had no business being around women in G strings and I hear. But I was like smoking my uncle.
Joe Russell
There's a whole section just for general le.
Turner Sparks
C and walking around, definitely cussing big cussing.
Phil Duckett
By nine I was cussing heavy.
Turner Sparks
Yeah.
Phil Duckett
Yeah, for sure.
Turner Sparks
Yeah. I never spoke. So what was a menthol? It's. It's minty. I guess it's the idea.
Phil Duckett
It's cold. It's like cold on your throat. It's like, like somebody put Vicks vapor.
Turner Sparks
Up and I think that might be it. Although don't black People love Vicks Vapor up, right? I know this from like. I think it's a Wanda Sykes bit.
Phil Duckett
I mean, we use it during cold season.
Turner Sparks
I know it from stand up.
Phil Duckett
Cold and flu season is pretty big. But we don't just rub it on daily.
Turner Sparks
It's not a thing.
Phil Duckett
It's not lotion, Turner. It's Vicks. It would burn. It's not daily. No, no. Use as needed.
Turner Sparks
Wanda Sykes steered me wrong.
Phil Duckett
Yeah, I think it was for the bit.
Turner Sparks
I think it was for the bit. All right, let's. We have one more. One more to close it out with. This isn't really much of an advice question. This is just an attack.
Phil Duckett
An attack. And it's this hate mail.
Turner Sparks
This is our first hate mail. Yes. This is a new segment. Should we debut it right now? Okay, we have a brand new segment, everybody. It is called Hate Mail. Most shows will not only. They'll not only run away from their hate mail, they will delete comments when people leave them on Instagram, social media, whatever they go through, delete. Only have the good ones. We are not like that because we.
Phil Duckett
Know this is a racist ass podcast. So it's going to rub some people the wrong way that don't realize that it's all in good fun and that we're joking and that, you know, I mean that we're just here to discuss things, to help us understand each other.
Turner Sparks
Ultimately, what we're doing is productive. We're promoting dialogue among races with the.
Phil Duckett
Questions that you don't want to ask, you know, because so this the dialogue, like you said, but there's always going to be a hating ass motherfucker. And this is why I'm here.
Turner Sparks
This is why we're here.
Phil Duckett
Yeah.
Turner Sparks
We are cut from a different cloth. You send us hate mail, not only will we not delete it on the Instagram, we're going to read it, we're going to read it on it and.
Phil Duckett
Then we'll put your name on it.
Turner Sparks
Then we'll put your name on it. I'm going to call you.
Phil Duckett
Send it to your kids school.
Turner Sparks
Yes.
Phil Duckett
All right.
Turner Sparks
Whatever he just said, we'll do that too.
Phil Duckett
All right.
Turner Sparks
Something about your kids school.
Phil Duckett
Send it to your kids.
Turner Sparks
Send it to your kids school along.
Phil Duckett
With your wife's nudes. Okay, that was too far.
Turner Sparks
If we can get a hold of them.
Phil Duckett
If we can get a hold of them.
Turner Sparks
First piece of hate. And we only have one for this episode. This comes from Vinnie in Carlisle, England. He says hello.
Phil Duckett
Hello, Governor.
Turner Sparks
Hello, Governor. All you guys, all right? I'm not going to do the exit. Are you guys just an ugly version of Colin Jost and Michael Che? Wow.
Phil Duckett
I never thought I'm gonna answer yes. Yeah. The fact that you think we are that successful says all I need to know.
Turner Sparks
I do like that.
Phil Duckett
Yeah. You know what? That's not hate mail.
Turner Sparks
Big ups.
Phil Duckett
Big ups to England, huh?
Turner Sparks
And Carlisle. Panic on the streets of Carlisle. You know that song, Joe the smiths. Hang the DJ. Hang the DJ. Hang the DJs. Anyway, white music.
Phil Duckett
We've never heard of white music.
Turner Sparks
We've never heard of Hang the Djang the dj.
Phil Duckett
That's what he says.
Turner Sparks
Yeah.
Phil Duckett
It's all about lynching in your white songs.
Turner Sparks
Yeah. If you're. Yes.
Phil Duckett
Yeah.
Turner Sparks
Yeah. I mean, it's England.
Phil Duckett
Yeah, that's true.
Turner Sparks
Are we assuming it's a black DJ in England?
Phil Duckett
No, I was assuming this was in South Carolina.
Turner Sparks
Are we the ugly version? Yeah. I mean, I'm going to say yes. I'm not as good looking as Colin.
Phil Duckett
Jost and I'm better looking than Michael Chase, so I don't really know how to answer that. Yeah. But we are the new up and comers.
Turner Sparks
We're taking over.
Phil Duckett
Yeah. About to say I don't really know. There's. I'm sure they're really nice guys, but they ain't doing what we doing and we ain't doing what they doing. So I think we just all going to be in our different lanes, counting the moolah.
Turner Sparks
Yeah, baby. Here we go. I think that's it. That's the show. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait. Also White Lies. Oh, oh. And you wait promote. And we're going to. We're going to put some at the beginning, but tell them again.
Phil Duckett
October 25th is the release of my debut comedy special, Gentrification. It'll be out on all platforms. What a great name. We were just talking about it.
Turner Sparks
It's called Gentrification.
Phil Duckett
Yeah. You know my middle name is Gentry, so I named it Gentrification.
Turner Sparks
No way is it.
Phil Duckett
No. Philip Gentry Ducket.
Turner Sparks
Are you named after Alvin Gentry the basketball?
Phil Duckett
No, I'm named after a classy Gentry, gentleman of the upper class. That's what it means. Just like the name. It was a tuxedo shop in Kansas where I was born. Some you didn't know about me.
Turner Sparks
Look at that.
Phil Duckett
Yeah, I don't remember. I was born in Kansas. I think I moved when I was 2.
Turner Sparks
Born in Kansas because I sell everybody.
Phil Duckett
From the Carolinas because I am both my parents from North Carolina and I grew up in North Carolina. I went to high school in South Carolina, but I was born in Wichita, Kansas.
Turner Sparks
Look at you.
Phil Duckett
Couldn't tell you shit about man of the People. I am, baby.
Turner Sparks
From the heartland. Come on. John Cougar Mellon, camp of podcasting.
Phil Duckett
I like that. That is dope. Yeah, baby.
Turner Sparks
All right, Gentry Vacation Gentrification, October 25th.
Phil Duckett
Man.
Turner Sparks
And that might be out depending upon when the show comes out. That might be out right now. So they can get on. Go to YouTube.
Phil Duckett
They go to YouTube. You can go to Sirius XM. It'll be on itunes. And Spotify.
Turner Sparks
All right, just type in Phil Ducket.
Phil Duckett
Phil Ducket.
Turner Sparks
Two T's.
Phil Duckett
Yes, sir. One L in Philip. Thank you.
Turner Sparks
And now, last thing we gotta do, Joe Russell to the show, White lies and dark Truce. What did we get right? What did we get wrong? Excuse me. What were we lying about?
Joe Russell
I'll just tell you a bunch of stuff here, guys.
Turner Sparks
A bunch?
Phil Duckett
I don't want a bunch.
Joe Russell
Well, Phil is saying that.
Turner Sparks
Is this hate mail.
Joe Russell
White ladies put peanut butter in their dreadlocks.
Turner Sparks
I said that.
Joe Russell
You said that?
Turner Sparks
Yeah.
Joe Russell
Okay, so it is true. Some people do do it. But if you consult the professionals, all the hair professionals online say that's not a good idea. You should just use your natural oils to maintain your dread.
Turner Sparks
Listen, here's my question. Who's been to a 311 concert and who hasn't? I've seen peanut butter and dreadlocks in these audience.
Phil Duckett
What are their pillowcases like? Are they just covered in mold and peanut butter?
Turner Sparks
I haven't hooked up with any of these people.
Phil Duckett
Just laying up inside a Tarzan looking woman.
Turner Sparks
Oh, boy.
Joe Russell
Is it the chunky peanut butter?
Turner Sparks
Extra chunky. It ain't. It's not jiff, let me tell you that much.
Phil Duckett
Y'all like crunchy peanut butter?
Turner Sparks
No.
Joe Russell
I do.
Turner Sparks
My parents did, though.
Phil Duckett
I just had it recently. Maybe like two years ago. It's not as bad as I thought it would be.
Turner Sparks
It's an odd sensation.
Phil Duckett
It is.
Turner Sparks
It's like orange juice with pulp.
Phil Duckett
Don't mind. As a kid, I hated it. As an adult, I don't mind.
Turner Sparks
Really. Okay. Yeah, it's caught in my throat. Anything else?
Joe Russell
Yeah, yeah. So when it comes to weddings. So this is the pay scale of what you should give people. So co workers or distant relatives, you should spend 50 to $75. Friends or relatives, 75 to 100. And for close friends, family members, or if you're in the wedding party, $100 to $150. Or more.
Turner Sparks
Or more. No, no, no.
Phil Duckett
No, no. So distant, distant friends are getting 75 gifts.
Turner Sparks
50 to 70 to 75. Listen, I don't think it is a.
Joe Russell
Free meal in drinking for you that night.
Turner Sparks
No. But if you're in the wedding party, they make you. I was. I had. I was forced to buy a suit one time, buy my own suit. Not only that, they're like, let's all pitch in on a gift for the groom. You're in for a grand just by showing up.
Joe Russell
Me and my wife, we have a piece of paper where we have all the money that everyone gave us for our wedding and we just give them the exact same amount of money back.
Turner Sparks
That is.
Joe Russell
We even do like a funny joke in the car. We go, and here's the money you gave us back. Thank you.
Turner Sparks
Hilarious.
Phil Duckett
Sick.
Joe Russell
And then we have one more thing about the menthol cigarettes. And I couldn't really find much about this except Cat Williams said it's got to be true. Black people prefer menthol cigarettes because they. They have a richer and stronger flavor. Because black people prefer that. That's what he said.
Phil Duckett
Well, we like flavor.
Turner Sparks
All right. Is that it?
Joe Russell
Yeah, that's it, guys.
Turner Sparks
That's the show. Everybody. Go to our Patreon patreon.com Black and white advice and subscribe. Stay black.
Phil Duckett
Stay black.
Turner Sparks
Yes.
Phil Duckett
Stay black, America.
Turner Sparks
Stay black. You've got a question but you're scared to ask? Just drop the boys a message? Cause they're up to the task.
Phil Duckett
They're all in the dice?
Turner Sparks
They ain't always nice but you can't.
Phil Duckett
Think twice and get it like it wide advice.
Turner Sparks
Black and white at once.
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Black and White Advice: Episode Summary – "Why Do White People Love the Royal Family?"
Released on November 12, 2024
Hosts: Turner Sparks and Phil Duckett
Podcast: Black and White Advice
Description: Comedians Turner Sparks (white) and Phil Duckett (black) answer all your questions on race, even the scary ones. Have a question? Email us at BlackandWhiteAdvicePod@Gmail.com and prepare to be educated.
In this episode titled "Why Do White People Love the Royal Family?", hosts Turner Sparks and Phil Duckett dive into a mix of humor and insightful discussions surrounding race, societal perceptions, and cultural phenomena. The episode features interactive segments, audience questions, and the introduction of new segments aimed at fostering dialogue across racial lines.
Timestamp: [00:52] - [09:48]
The episode kicks off with a lively game called "Name the Criminal", introduced by guest Joe Russell. The premise involves presenting crime stories sourced from the New York Post, challenging Turner and Phil to determine the race and gender of the perpetrators based solely on the scant details provided.
Notable Interaction:
The segment highlights the hosts' playful yet incisive examination of racial stereotypes and assumptions in criminal profiling.
Timestamp: [11:27] - [19:18]
The core of the episode addresses the titular question submitted by Jordan in Chicago: "Why do white people love the royal family?"
Key Points Discussed:
Colonial Nostalgia:
Disney-like Aspirations:
Meghan Markle's Impact:
Historical References:
Humorous and Edgy Remarks:
The conversation oscillates between sharp social commentary and irreverent humor, maintaining a balance that provokes thought while entertaining listeners.
Timestamp: [19:21] - [37:14]
Following the main discussion, the hosts address additional questions from their audience, maintaining the show's interactive format.
Question from James in Florida: "I'm going to my first black wedding. What is a proper amount of money to spend on the gift?"
Question from Keith in Brooklyn: "I'm a white person who lives in Bed Stuy, Brooklyn, and I'm constantly aware that the locals view me as a gentrifier and that I don't belong. What can I do?"
Question from Jack in Buffalo: "Why do black people only smoke menthols?"
Notable Quotes:
These interactions showcase the hosts' ability to blend humor with genuine inquiries, fostering an environment where sensitive topics are navigated with wit and insight.
Timestamp: [30:24] - [33:04]
Introducing a new segment, "Hate Mail," Turner and Phil confront derogatory messages from listeners head-on, using humor to diffuse negativity and encourage open dialogue.
Featured Hate Mail:
This segment underscores the podcast's commitment to addressing and dismantling racist attitudes through candid conversation and comedic relief.
Timestamp: [33:14] - [37:52]
The episode concludes with promotions and announcements:
Phil Duckett’s Comedy Special – "Gentrification":
Patreon Subscription:
Final Remarks:
In "Why Do White People Love the Royal Family?", Turner Sparks and Phil Duckett adeptly navigate through humor, personal anecdotes, and sharp social commentary to explore complex racial dynamics and cultural fascinations. The episode not only entertains but also educates listeners, encouraging thoughtful reflection on topics such as gentrification, cultural appropriation, and racial stereotypes. Through interactive segments and candid discussions, the hosts reinforce the podcast’s mission to bridge understanding between black and white communities.
Notable Quotes with Timestamps:
These quotes encapsulate the show's blend of humor and critical insights, reflecting the hosts' unique perspectives on race and society.