Face to Face

Summary

Blood and Water — Episode 6: Face to Face

Podcast: Blood and Water (ABC News / 20/20)
Date: June 2, 2026
Host: Stephanie Ramos
Theme: The decades-long quest for justice in the 2001 murder of Leslie Preer reaches a crescendo with the arrest, interrogation, and guilty plea of Eugene Glegor — an "unknown male" identified through DNA evidence. The episode weaves together original police recordings, fresh interviews with detectives and victims’ family, and courtroom revelations to examine how closure, and yet lingering questions, arrive in a cold case.

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Episode Overview

This episode documents the climactic phases of the Leslie Preer case:

• Eugene Glegor's dramatic arrest and tense interrogation.
• How new forensic tools broke open the cold case, leading to Glegor — Leslie’s daughter’s former boyfriend.
• The reactions of investigators, Leslie’s daughter Lauren, and Glegor himself.
• The emotional toll of two decades of suspicion, the weight of Glegor’s guilty plea, and the elusive search for “why.”

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. The Arrest of Eugene Glegor

• [00:23] The episode opens with the arrest of Eugene Glegor in a pleasant D.C. neighborhood — five plainclothes officers handcuff him as neighbors watch.

  • “Hands up, man.” ([01:13], Officer)
  • Glegor appears stunned, embarrassed, and physically uncomfortable from the handcuffs.

• [02:00 – 03:00] Glegor is denied explanation for the arrest initially and is quickly taken to be questioned by cold case detectives Tara Augustin and Allison DuBois.

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2. Interrogation: The High-Stakes Interview

• [03:15 – 08:10] Detectives and Glegor navigate a "cat and mouse" conversation, each probing for information without giving too much away.
  • Detectives withhold that they have his DNA match, describing only that “unknown male DNA” was found at the scene ([06:14], Detective).
  • Glegor appears evasive, expresses confusion, and eventually asks for a lawyer.

Notable Quotes:

• “Well, you're under arrest, so you should feel trapped.” ([07:39], Detective)
• “We actually have a sample of your DNA, and it was compared to the crime scene DNA, and it matched. So we know that you were there at the time when Leslie died.” ([08:10], Detective)

Glegor’s Reactions:

• Repeatedly claims no recollection of the events.
• Appears more concerned with the process and his rights than with the allegations.
• “I don't know what to say. I have no memory. I have no…” ([08:44], Glegor)
• “I didn't do it. I definitely didn’t do it.” ([13:03], Glegor, after detector prompts)

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3. Detective Commentary: Reading Between the Lines

• [14:45 – 16:27] Detectives Tara Augustin and Allison Dubois reflect on the interview, expressing skepticism at Glegor’s performance.
  • “It was very put on. That was my opinion of it, sitting there watching it.” ([15:18], Detective Dubois)
  • They believe Glegor wants to look like the victim and call his tears insincere.

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4. Lauren Preer: A Daughter’s Shock and Search for Peace

• [18:17] Lauren Preer, Leslie’s daughter, discusses two decades of grief, suspicion, and her attempt to make peace before learning the killer’s identity.

  • “If I have to accept this, then I have to…you can't live every single day with terror and fear and sadness. You’re never gonna get through.” ([18:17], Lauren)

• [19:02 – 21:31] Lauren describes the explosion of shock upon learning her ex-boyfriend was her mother’s killer.

  • “You can’t even process it. … I mean, I loved him back then. I really did.” ([19:43], Lauren)

• Lauren’s friends and Glegor’s colleagues express disbelief; the tragic duality of someone familiar being responsible for such horror is a recurring theme.

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5. The Lingering Question: Why?

• Even with Glegor’s arrest, detectives and Lauren still grapple with the absence of explanation and motive.

  • “The only person that knows is Leslie, and she can’t tell us.” ([17:08], Detective)

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6. The Legal Outcome: Guilty Plea and Sentencing

• [24:45 – 31:00]

  • Glegor is charged with first-degree murder, but in April 2025, he pleads guilty to second-degree murder, avoiding life in prison and a lengthy trial.
  • Lauren feels relief at avoiding a traumatic trial:
    • “No, that would have been hell.” ([25:54], Lauren)

• Detective’s Theory:

  • Detective Augustin speculates that Glegor didn’t expect Leslie home, panicked when recognized, and killed her in a selfish act of self-preservation ([26:44]).

• Glegor’s Statement in Court ([28:47 – 31:00]):

  • “Your Honor, I want to express my deepest regret, shame, and remorse for the devastating tragedy…”
  • He claims blackouts, selective memory, and no ill will — raising suspicion about the tidiness of his story.
  • Prosecutors counter that his amnesia is too convenient, writing:
    • “The defendant's account (…) conveniently allows him to avoid taking full responsibility for the most gruesome and calculated aspects of the murder.” ([31:00])

• Glegor is sentenced to 22 years in prison, with 5 years supervised probation.

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7. Aftermath: Seeking Closure

• [32:22 – end] Lauren and her family reflect on their loss, the bittersweet relief of answers, and the holes left behind.
  • “She was my hope, my pride, my joy, my beauty. … I just loved her so much.” ([32:22], Lauren)
  • Lauren assures her late father, who did not live to see the case solved:
    • “I said, daddy, thank you for being such a wonderful father. And I'm so sorry that you didn’t get to see justice. But you’re getting justice.” ([33:22], Lauren)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments with Timestamps

• [06:14] Detective:
  “From the crime scene, we have DNA from the person who was there when Leslie died… we wanted to find out more about you and if there was any kind of situation where you could have been at that house at that time.”

• [08:10] Detective:
  “We actually have a sample of your DNA, and it was compared to the crime scene DNA, and it matched.”

• [09:07] Detective:
  “Why would my DNA be there? That’s what we’re trying to figure out.”

• [15:18] Detective DuBois:
  “It was very put on. That was my opinion of it, sitting there watching it.”

• [19:43] Lauren:
  “You can't even process it. I was in shock. I said, what? I'm still in shock. Total shock. I was like, are you sure?”

• [26:44] Detective Augustin (theory):
  “I think that Eugene thought no one was home and didn’t expect for Leslie to be there… and instead of just admitting he was wrong or talking to her about it, I think he just panicked and…made a selfish decision to kill Leslie in the heat of the moment just so he could get away.”

• [29:00] Glegor to Court:
  “I want to express my deepest regret, shame and remorse for the devastating tragedy… I’m sorry it’s taken me this long to take full responsibility. I’m grateful the time has come. I’m relieved. The secret is over.”

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Conclusion: Resolution with Lingering Pain

• Leslie Preer’s family finally receives answers after 24 years, but the mystery of motive—“why”—remains unresolved. Lauren and the detectives emphasize focusing on Leslie as the true victim and the importance of closure, even as wounds linger.

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For Listeners New to the Series

This episode intricately details the emotional outcomes of a long-cold case shattered by new forensic evidence, the elusive truth behind a brutal killing in an affluent suburb, and the ripples of pain, relief, and ambiguity that persist even after a confession. The podcast’s tone is empathetic, direct, and shaped by both investigation and personal testimony, centering the voices most affected by Leslie Preer’s loss.

Transcript

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Required intro rate first 3 months only, then full price plan options available, taxes and fees extra. See full [e-mail] One morning in the summer of 2024, Eugene Glegor was sitting on his stoop In Northwest Washington, D.C. glegor was 45, with wavy brown hair and a neatly trimmed beard. He wore glasses and a polo shirt with the logo of the company he worked for stitched above the heart. Glegor lived on a charming street lined with pre war buildings and a red brick sidewalk. Just down the block was the main drag, a trendy stretch dotted with brunch spots and a Trader Joe's. It was in this picturesque setting that Glegor was abruptly arrested.

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Hands up, man.

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Hands up. Glegor was surrounded by five plainclothes officers who handcuffed him and led him to a car.

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Can you tell me what this is about? Yeah. You have a warrant? For what? I don't know. Anything recently? No.

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5 officers arresting one man would have been an unusual sight on this street.

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This is awfully embarrassing here, sitting out.

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Not only was Glegor embarrassed, he also said he was in pain. From the handcuffs on my right hand.

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Okay, hold on.

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Not made for comfort, but we'll make it. I get it. Yeah, we'll make it.

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We'll use it. In the body camera footage, the officers don't tell Glegor what he's being arrested for, but he'd find out later that day. Glegor was about to come face to face with the cold case detectives who spent years trying to find Leslie Preer's killer. Now that Glegor was in custody, the detectives would confront him with what their investigation had uncovered. And as you'll here, Eugene Glegor didn't take it well. From abc audio and 20 20, I'm stephanie ramos. This is blood and water. Episode 6 face to face. Have a seat right there. After Eugene Glegor was arrested, he was taken into an interrogation room.

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Is There any way I can get some water?

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I'll get you some water.

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Go and have a seat. Okay. Thank you. You're welcome.

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Soon after, detectives Tara Augustin and Allison dupois walked in and took a seat.

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Hi, Eugene.

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Hello.

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This interview would end up being the only time detectives sat down with Gleegore. The stakes were high.

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I'm sure you're wondering what this is all about.

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Really like to know. This has been really, really hard, whatever's happening.

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The detectives began by reading Gligor his rights and asking some standard questions.

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What is your physical condition today? You have any injuries? Are you feeling okay?

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I mean, I'm feeling a little bit caught off guard and from the handcuffs, there seems to be a lump on my hand. I don't know if it. Okay, is it swelling? Is it a blood clot? I don't know. I've been holding my hand above my heart just so. Hopefully it helps to heal.

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The detectives began telling Glegor about the case they'd been working on.

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We are from Montgomery County. We actually work in the cold case unit. Do you recall back in 2001, Leslie Prear?

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Yes. That she was murdered? Yeah.

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Okay, so that's the case that we are investigating. What was your relationship with Lauren, the daughter?

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We had dated.

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Okay, and when did you guys date?

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Do you remember?

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Years.

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Exact dates? I'm not entirely sure.

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There were lots of details. Glegor said he didn't remember. When he did answer questions, he didn't reveal all that much.

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When you guys were dating, how close were you with the family? Like, did you spend a lot of time at their house or did you know them real well?

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I knew the family. I, you know, definitely spent time. She spent time at my house. I've spent time at her house. Yeah, you know, for sure.

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So how were you close with her parents?

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I mean, I wouldn't say close with them. I don't know if close would be the right word. But they were friendly with me and nice to me.

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So were you at her house a lot of the time, or did you guys spend more time at your house? Or what did you guys do when you.

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I mean, it was a mix. My house, her house, being out. I mean, we're young and teenagers, so there's, you know, going out and.

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Okay.

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Watching the footage, Glegor seems to be holding back, but he's not the only one. When detectives began telling Glegor about the case, they left out key details they did not immediately say. We have your DNA. And it matched the crime scene DNA Instead what they told him was a little more cryptic.

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From the crime scene, we have DNA from the person who was there when Leslie died. So there's Leslie's blood all over the place, obviously. But then there's also another DNA profile that was picked up from the crime scene, and we wanted to find out more about you and if there was any kind of situation where you could have been at that house at that time.

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What's fascinating about this interview is that it feels like Glegor and the detectives are doing a sort of dance, like both sides are trying to figure out what the other knows without revealing too much about what they themselves know. And it's not just the detectives who are asking questions.

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I. I'm just. I'm a little confused. So to find out more and talk to me, why not just call me and ask me to come in and. And talk versus have marshals come and arrest me and bring me in? I'm just confused as to why that's the case.

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Well, because we needed to talk to you in a controlled environment and because there's a little bit more to it than what we've told you so far.

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Could you tell me?

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Well, we're getting there. I'm trying to give you an opportunity to be a little bit forthcoming before we.

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I mean, I feel very. I feel a little bit trapped here.

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Like, well, you're under arrest, so you should feel trapped. Right.

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And so I. I think, you know, I. I mean, probably asking for a lawyer is my best course of action at this point.

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With that, the detectives tell Glegor, okay, no more questions.

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That's totally fine, and we don't have to ask you any more questions, but we are going to just tell you some stuff.

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Okay?

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Okay.

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And then the detectives lay their cards out on the table.

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We actually have a sample of your DNA, and it was compared to the crime scene DNA, and it matched. So we know that you were there at the time when Leslie died.

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But I never gave a sample of DNA.

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That's correct. We obtained a sample from a discarded water bottle that you drank out of, and we collected it after you discarded it into the trash. And it was swabbed and it was compared. So your DNA matches the crime scene DNA?

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I don't know what to say. I'm not. No recollection. I have no memory. I have no. I don't know what to say.

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Okay, well, that's why we wanted to talk to you, to find out if there's any other explanation. You know, we wanted to try to see if there was another angle or another side to this story, and, you know, we know.

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Why would my DNA be there?

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That's what we're trying to figure out.

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So. I don't know. I, I, I don't know. You know, I mean, I was in the house, but it was years before, you know, when I dated her. Correct. I, I don't know. I was going to tell you. I don't know. I don't understand. Is there more? Like you're gonna tell me, is there more?

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I mean, we've told you plenty. We can't continue to ask you questions. Yeah, we can tell you more about, you know, what we think happened.

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I don't, I mean, what you think happened. I don't know. I can't verify. I don't know. I don't recall. I don't have any memory. I didn't do anything that you're talking about, so I don't know, and I don't feel like I can. I don't know how to answer and go into. I don't want to incriminate myself with questions. You guys are professionals. I'm not. I don't know. I, I really do think I need an attorney. I need to use the phone and I need to call someone and I need to. I need legal representation before I respond to anything else. I.

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Okay, that's fine. We're not gonna ask you any more questions. There's no tears coming out of your face.

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I'm very dry right now.

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You're dry?

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I'm very dry. I'm parched, dehydrated. You can probably see my eyes are bloodshot red because I'm just tired and drained. I don't know what's going on. You want me to drink water so I can hear? Like, what is wrong with you?

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I don't want you to tear. I just don't want.

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What are you trying to say?

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I'm just trying to say that this seems a little put on.

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Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me?

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No.

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Oh, my God, you're so full of it. You're just, you're after. This is, this is the police. This is. Yes. Like, it makes sense, you know? It's in your eyes. It's guilty until proven innocent. I get it.

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Well, honey, your DNA was in the crime scene. That's why, like, there's a reason.

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There's, there's just for. There's, there's, there's due process, right? Due process. So you're saying that. So you're saying I'm guilty before I'VE even been put into a court of law

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to believe that you were there

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when I think what you were saying was the contrary to that. So. Okay, but I don't remember. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

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We're trying to figure out is how your blood was at the scene that day. If there's an alternate explanation. That's why we wanted to talk to you today. Okay, So I feel like you just need to take a breath for a second. Okay? That's what we're trying to figure out. Why is your blood there? Could it have been, you know, an interrupted burglary? Did something happen where you didn't expect anybody to be home?

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I have no idea. I don't remember. I don't recall. Again, you're asking me questions. I don't know. I'm not asking a question. You did. You just asked me a question. And I asked for legal representation. And you guys are very smart, smug, looking at me like I'm. Like I've done something. And of course it's innocent until proven guilty, right? Am I wrong or am I right?

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You are entitled to your due process. Absolutely.

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This is insane. This is insane. I don't.

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You keep saying you don't remember and you don't have any recollection, but if somebody was not involved, it would be an adamant. I didn't do it.

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Oh, I didn't do it. I definitely didn't do it.

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If you were rehearsing in your head what you would say. 23 years waiting to be caught for a murder. I'm guessing he had been working on this performance for a while.

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Last summer, when I interviewed detectives Tara Augustin and Allison dupois, we watched the footage of their interview with Eugene Glegor. The camera was positioned high above the room, too far up to read Glegor's face clearly. But the detectives insisted Gleegor's tears were not real.

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It was very put on. That was my opinion of it. Sitting there watching it.

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He sounds emotional. He sounds like he's crying. Can't really see it from this angle, but you could. Both of you could.

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You're sitting right across from him, taking his glasses off, rubbing his eyes. Performance of a lifetime.

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The detective said Glegor wanted to come off as someone to feel sorry for an innocent man who just happened to be in handcuffs. And you called him out on that.

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I guess what was going through my mind was if a jury were to watch this, it's not close up enough to show that he's really not crying. And his performance, to me, looked very fake. But I don't know what it's going to look like to 12 people who weren't 4ft away from him. He was very much wanting to be the victim in the situation. You want to make sure that the focus is on Leslie. She's the victim here. He's not the victim.

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I've been an alcoholic in recovery for years now. I've been sober for years. And there are many, many times in which earlier life wasn't great. But at the same time, I know I didn't do it. I know I wasn't involved. And I just don't understand how this has come to this. I really wish I knew and I really wish I could tell you some, Give you some answers and give you more feedback from an honest perspective, because I just don't know. I just don't know. I don't.

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I don't know either. That's why we wanted to talk to you. I don't know why your blood is there.

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Wow.

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The only person that knows is Leslie, and she can't tell us.

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Wow.

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When you walked out of that room, what went through your mind? What were you thinking?

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I was frustrated because I wanted to be able to give dancers to the family and he just wasn't providing any.

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At the time of Eugene Glegor's arrest, Lauren Preer had lived through more than two decades of pain and confusion. From 2001 on, the mystery of who killed her mother remained unsolved. And for years, suspicion hung over her father, Sandy Prayer. Sandy died without knowing the truth. He never got closure. And Lauren thought she might not either. But when we spoke, Lauren told me there came a moment sometime in the years after her father died, she. Where she felt like she might finally be able to make peace with everything that had happened.

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If I have to accept this, then I have to, because my parents are together, and I can't live the rest of my life every single day in pain and in fear and scared and sad. That's not the right path. The right path is it happens. And you have to give yourself grace. But you can't live every single day with terror and fear and sadness. You're never gonna get through.

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So you were already telling yourself, I need to accept this.

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Correct.

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Both my parents are gone. I need to move on.

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Right.

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And then you get the call.

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And then my world was once again upside down.

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Throughout the investigation, the cold case detectives had followed standard procedure. They told Lauren little to nothing about what they were uncovering. She had no idea that her high school boyfriend was a suspect. So when her phone rang on June 18, 2024, the day of Glegor's arrest, that was the moment that Lauren finally learned the truth. She calls you. She says, eugene Glegor killed your mom. What goes through your mind?

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You can't even process it. I was in shock. I said, what? I'm still in shock. Total shock. I was like, are you sure?

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She's like, yeah. Your ex boyfriend killed your mother?

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Yes.

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Did you ever think Eugene would be capable of something like this?

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Nobody did. No one. I mean, I loved him back then. I really did.

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It's kind of hurt to know that he's the person responsible for. For the loss of your mom.

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Right. And the fact that someone I knew that I dated, went to prom with is insane.

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As Lauren grappled with this news, detectives asked what she remembered about Eugene and their relationship. Detective Allison dupois.

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Lauren said, you know, my mom would have given him anything he wanted if he had just asked, you know, meaning this was unnecessary. She would have helped him if he needed help. My mom was just open door, you know, when he was who he was. When I dated him, she loved him. She adored him. My mom totally took him in. That really stuck with me because that was the kind of person Leslie was. I think she was just a sweetheart that was just trying to do the best she can and would have helped any of her daughter's friends if they needed it.

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The news of Eugene Glegor's arrest spread quickly among the people who knew him. Lisa Wood, one of Lauren's friends from high school, remembers Lauren calling her.

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I answered the phone and she said it was him. When she said it was him, I'm like, what are you talking about? And then she said it was Eugene. And still at that point, I'm thinking, what are you talking about? And she's like, eugene, Eugene killed my mom. And. I still. I still cannot. I just still can't wrap my head around that.

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This copacetic Zen person who had all this advice murdered someone.

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Jordan wires Eugene's former colleague and mentee. He showed us photos of him and Eugene smiling with their colleagues. Jordan struggled to make sense of his memories of Eugene. Given what he knows now.

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It's just a little scary knowing that the person who pet our cat and the person that you know was just standing here in this photo with me.

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Extinguish the life of another human being.

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I'm looking at him now through a different lens of what I know. And the person that back then wouldn't have thought twice about me in that picture with him, right? It's like, oh, it's Eugene. And now I'm just wondering what's going on behind those eyes.

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It's gotta be deliciously desperate.

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Why do these girls forgive him?

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Well, she has a soft spot for troubled men. Boo.

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Bloody.

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No, that would have been hell.

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No trial meant avoiding long days in court, days likely spent looking at gruesome evidence. Plus, there's no guarantee that a trial would have answered the big question at the center of this case. Why on earth did Eugene Glegor murder Leslie Preer? Still, in digging through court filings and evidence collected by police, there are hints that might help explain how the grisly events of May 2, 2001 came to pass. I asked Detective Tara Augustin for her theory of the case. Based on all of this evidence, what do you think happened to Leslie that morning when she was killed?

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I think that Eugene thought no one was home and didn't expect for Leslie to be there. And she came downstairs and confronted him. And I think in his mind he realized he was caught because it's not just a stranger, it's somebody who knows exactly who he is. And instead of just admitting that he was wrong or talking to her about, I think that he just panicked and only thought about himself and made a selfish decision to kill Leslie in the heat of the moment just so he could get away.

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Prosecutors would later file a sentencing memo. It quoted an account of that day from Glegor. It reads, On May 1, 2001, Mr. Glegor remembered drinking both shots and mixed drinks. He stated that he vaguely remembered driving to work and stopping off at the PR House around 9:30am on May 2, 2001. He recalled a vague memory of going into the house and he and Miss Prayer having some sort of a physical altercation. He does not recall placing her in the shower or trying to clean up the crime scene. On the day Glegor appeared in court to enter his plea. Lauren was in the room. She was once again in the presence of her high school boyfriend, but this time under vastly different circumstances. What was it like to be so close to him?

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It was horrifying.

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Did he look at you?

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No. Nothing. He didn't look at anybody. But he knew.

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At this time. Mr. Glegor, you do have the absolute right to address the court before I sentence you in this matter.

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A few months after Glegor took a plea deal In August of 2025, he appeared before judge for his sentencing. It was there that Glegor made a statement.

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Your Honor, I want to express my deepest regret, shame and remorse for the devastating tragedy that I caused taking the life of Leslie Prier.

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In his statement to the court, Glegor said he wanted to atone for the pain and suffering he had caused. He also said he had buried and suppressed his thoughts of the tragedy for most of his adult life.

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I'm sorry it's taken me this long to take full responsibility. I'm grateful the time has come. I'm relieved. The secret is over.

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Gleecor also spoke about his mental state around the time of the murder.

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I had many blackouts leading up to the evening of May 1 and the morning of May 2, 2001, but none that resulted in the most regretful and devastating event of my life. I've never been a violent person. I vaguely remember losing leaving the prayer house in the morning, but the rest is a blur. I know Lauren and Leslie's family want to know why I was there and what happened. I'm sorry I'm unable to remember and provide an explanation. I've asked myself the same questions many times. I never had any issue with Leslie. No ill will or malice or malevolent intent. If anything, I owed her a debt of gratitude for being so kind to me when I dated Lauren. Hours later, I remember hoping and praying that she was not dead, that she would revive. I felt so sick and disgusted with myself for what I had done. To Lauren and Leslie's family. I'm so sorry for causing you so much misery and hardship. Can't believe I can did this to you all. Lord, I've always held a piece of our relationship and love in my heart. I only have positive memories of us and your mom. You were part of my family and I felt that I was a part of yours. I know this must have been a nightmare.

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To prosecutors, Glor's recollection of the day in question was a little too tidy. In a filing, the State wrote, quote, the defendant's account of what he does and doesn't remember conveniently allows him to avoid taking full responsibility for the most gruesome and calculated aspects of the murder. The state finds the defendant's selective memory implausible. At the sentencing, Lauren Preer also spoke. She addressed Glegor directly. She called him a monster and a wolf in sheep's clothing. And she asked, why would you kill my mom? Eugene Glegor was sentenced to 22 years in prison with five years of supervised probation. He's currently serving time in a state prison about two hours northwest of Chevy Chase. After 24 years, Leslie Preer's killer is behind bars. And Lauren Preer has answers. But talking about her mom and dad is still bittersweet. You said some wonderful things about your mother. She seemed like a wonderful, wonderful mom.

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I have no idea. She was my hope, my pride, my joy, my beauty.

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I just loved her so much. And.

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I became a different person and my world changed completely. I had this, like, perfect world before this all happened.

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Perfect.

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I mean, everyone has their ups and downs, but it was a wonderful world, was happy. I'm still happy. I mean, you know what I mean? I'm not just like this person that sits in the dark and, like, cries every day, but it's. I miss her very much.

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Your father, he never got to see this case solved. How do you process that, knowing that he was so close to seeing this day?

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I mean, I talk to them every day. I have pictures of him in the guest bedroom, and I talked to them and I said, I wish you had been here. I said, daddy, thank you for being such a wonderful father. And I'm so sorry that you didn't get to see justice. But you're getting justice.

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