Blood Podcast Summary
Episode: "VTE Risk Model in Children and a Novel Tri-specific T-cell-engager for MM"
Host: Dr. Laurie Sen (Associate Editor, Blood)
Date: February 19, 2026
Podcast: American Society of Hematology – Conversations with Blood Authors
Episode Overview
This episode features in-depth conversations with leading researchers about two significant studies recently published in Blood. Dr. Julie Jaffre discusses the multi-site validation of a thrombosis risk model for critically ill children (CHAT ICU model), while Dr. Ulrike Philippar highlights a novel tri-specific T-cell engager, Romantomig, targeting multiple antigens in multiple myeloma (MM) models. Both segments explore the clinical importance, experimental details, and potential impact of these advances in hematology.
Segment 1: Multi-site Validation of a Venous Thrombosis Risk Model in Critically Ill Children
Guest: Dr. Julie Jaffre, Rady Children’s Hospital & UC San Diego
Original Paper: "Multi Site Validation of a Venous Thrombosis Risk Model in Critically Ill Children through the CHAT Consortium"
Timestamps: 00:26–09:08
Clinical Background and Need
- Rising VTE in Pediatric Patients:
- Hospital-associated VTE rates in children have increased significantly—by about 120% over the past decade, affecting all hospital units, with the pediatric ICU showing the highest rates.
- Symptomatic clots occur in about 2% of PICU admissions; up to 16% may develop asymptomatic clots if central venous lines are present.
- (Dr. Jaffre, 01:05):
"Rates of VTE... have been going up for the last really couple of decades... We see rates now going up by about 120% over the last 10 years."
- Gap in Prevention:
- Effective prevention in children still lags behind adult protocols.
Development of the CHAT ICU Risk Model
- Origin:
- The CHAT Consortium began with 8 centers (now 69) aiming to identify and validate risk factors for thrombosis in hospitalized children.
- Identified Risk Factors:
- Five main risk factors:
- Immobility (Braden score)
- New infection / inflammation
- Congenital heart disease
- ICU stay ≥ 3 days
- Central venous catheter
- (Dr. Jaffre, 02:30):
"We created a risk model... five main risk factors. So things like being immobile... new infection... congenital heart disease... three or more days in the ICU... and having a central venous catheter."
- Five main risk factors:
Study Design & Population
- Prospective, Multi-center Validation:
- Despite the pandemic, 32 centers prospectively validated the risk model, enrolling over 4,500 PICU patients via chart review.
- Risk factors were assessed within the first 24 hours of ICU admission, and patients were followed for development of VTE during and after hospitalization (to 30 days).
- (Dr. Jaffre, 03:25):
"We were able to enroll over 4,500 patients, which was a pretty fantastic feat in pediatric research."
Main Findings
- Validation of Predictive Utility:
- Risk scores were created by weighting each risk factor (some scored 1, others 2).
- VTE incidence:
- 1 risk factor: 1% risk
- 5–6 risk factors: 17% risk
- All risk factors: up to 30% risk!
- The model can be used for real-time risk stratification of PICU patients.
- (Dr. Jaffre, 05:14):
"The risk of actually developing a clot with one of those five risk factors was 1%. But once you get up to five, six risk factors, that is going up to 17%...even 30% if you have all of the risk factors."
- Emphasizes next steps: developing strategies for safe and effective VTE prevention in children.
Limitations and Next Steps
- Does Not Predict Bleeding Risk:
- The model doesn't account for bleeding risk, which is critical when considering prophylactic anticoagulation.
- Existing studies show low bleeding risk with prophylactic anticoagulation in children, but ICU patients are a higher-risk group.
- Future goal: develop complementary models for both thrombosis and bleeding risks.
- (Dr. Jaffre, 07:29):
"Most clinicians have been hesitant to start prophylactic anticoagulation because of that potential risk of bleeding... one day we will have a CHAT bleeding model."
Notable Quotes
- (Dr. Jaffre, 07:29):
"What a person needs to do is not only apply the CHAT risk model, but hopefully one day we will have a CHAT bleeding model and we can put the thrombosis CHAT model and the bleeding CHAT model together to find the perfect patient..."
Key Segment Timestamps
- [01:05] Pediatric VTE background/rates
- [02:30] Risk factor identification
- [03:25] Study design & patient enrollment
- [05:14] Model validation & risk stratification
- [07:29] Limitations: Bleeding risk & future directions
Segment 2: A Novel Tri-specific T-cell Engager (Romantomig) for Multiple Myeloma
Guest: Dr. Ulrike Philippar, Johnson & Johnson Innovative Medicine
Original Paper: "A novel T cell engaging trispecific antibody targeting BCMA, GPRC5D and CD3 in multiple myeloma models"
Timestamps: 10:14–15:59
Challenges of Current BCMA/GPRC5D Bispecifics
- Response Rates & Resistance:
- Both BCMA-CD3 and GPRC5D-CD3 bispecific antibodies have improved patient outcomes but face limitations due to disease heterogeneity and resistance.
- Clonal variation means some myeloma cells express only BCMA or GPRC5D; after therapy, antigen downregulation or gene deletion can cause therapeutic escape.
- (Dr. Philippar, 10:31):
"There's a heterogeneity... clones that express BCMA and GPRC5D but then there's also clones that only express BCMA or GPRC5D... resistance... comes through downregulation of a tumor associated antigen."
Rationale for Trispecific Targeting
- Addressing Tumor Heterogeneity and Resistance:
- Designing Romantomig to engage both BCMA and GPRC5D (plus CD3) aims to prevent escape via single antigen loss, increase response rates, and improve durability.
- (Dr. Philippar, 12:08):
"The rationale was to have one molecule that is addressing the heterogeneity... also durability and hopefully prevention of resistance."
Key Experimental Findings
- Preclinical Efficacy Across Models:
- In vitro, Romantomig effectively kills multiple myeloma cell lines expressing either or both antigens.
- Knockdown and knockout experiments demonstrate activity even if only one target is present.
- Experiments with patient-derived samples confirmed efficacy across variable antigen expression.
- In vivo mouse models with both BCMA- and GPRC5D-positive tumors showed shrinkage of both with Romantomig—superior to using separate bispecifics.
- (Dr. Philippar, 12:41):
"We have shown that ramantamib can efficiently bind to... cell lines... lead to cytotoxicity... and T cell activation... both tumors shrink, so we see very potent efficacy if one of the targets is expressed..."
Clinical Implications and Future Directions
- Potential Post-bispecific Therapy:
- Romantomig shows early activity even in patients refractory to prior BCMA or GPRC5D-targeting therapies, depending on resistance mechanism.
- Early clinical data: 100% overall response rate, with deeper responses over time.
- Improved safety profile supports outpatient administration with a single step-up dose.
- (Dr. Philippar, 15:24):
"Romantamig demonstrated a favorable safety profile compared with BCMA or GPRC5D targeting bispecific antibodies, which is leading to a convenient single step up dose."
Distinguishing Trispecific from Combination Therapy
- More than Just Two Bispecifics:
- The trispecific format enables single-agent treatment for tumors expressing either antigen, potentially offering advantages in efficacy, safety, and logistics versus combining separate bispecifics.
Notable Quotes
- (Dr. Philippar, 12:08):
"The rationale was to have one molecule that is addressing the heterogeneity, so leading to higher overall response rates but also durability and hopefully prevention of resistance..."
- (Dr. Philippar, 15:24):
"The early overall response rate for Romantamig were 100% and responses continue to deepen..."
Key Segment Timestamps
- [10:31] Limitations of bispecifics & resistance mechanisms
- [12:08] Rationale for trispecific design
- [12:41] Experimental findings
- [14:37] Post-bispecific therapy considerations
- [15:24] Safety, outpatient use, and trispecific vs. combo therapy
Conclusion & Key Takeaways
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For Pediatric VTE:
- The CHAT ICU model enables improved risk stratification in critically ill children, setting the stage for safer, targeted thromboprophylaxis. Future research should focus on integrating bleeding risk models.
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For Multiple Myeloma:
- Trispecific antibody Romantomig represents a promising new strategy to overcome tumor heterogeneity and resistance seen with current bispecific therapies, with early data suggesting potent efficacy and favorable safety.
For Further Reading
- Explore both featured studies in full at bloodjournal.org.
