Schedule a Cry with Regretting You's Allison Williams

Summary

Bookmarked by Reese’s Book Club — “Schedule a Cry with Regretting You’s Allison Williams”

Release Date: October 21, 2025
Host: Danielle Robay
Guest: Allison Williams

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Overview

In this episode of Bookmarked by Reese’s Book Club, host Danielle Robay sits down for a live conversation with actress and executive producer Allison Williams to discuss the adaptation of Colleen Hoover’s bestselling novel Regretting You. With the book’s film debut imminent, Allison opens up about embodying a character wracked by loss and the complexity of mother-daughter relationships. The conversation weaves through adaptation challenges, motherhood, regret, vulnerability, and the joyfully cathartic power of a good cry.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Welcoming Allison Williams to Reese’s Book Club (05:01)

• Danielle lauds Allison’s versatility and warmth onscreen, calling her “hilarious and grounded, kind and just so real.”
• Allison jokes about English majors and reading Ulysses:

  "What else is leading you to—why did I read Ulysses if not for this moment? Can someone answer that?" (05:08)

Adaptation & Characterization: Bringing “Morgan” to Life

• Comparing Morgan to Girls Characters (05:33–06:14)

  • Danielle asks if Morgan is more like Marnie, Jessa, Hannah, or Shoshana from Girls.
  • Allison humorously diagnoses Morgan as:

    “A Marnie-Shosh hybrid... I can't tell if that's just their shared DNA or maybe she's Shosh. She's a Shosh rising. I don't know what that means in astrology, but I went for it.” (05:42–06:14)

• Romance or Family Saga? (06:17–07:06)

  • There's debate whether Regretting You is a family saga or romance.
  • Allison explains it is about “three relationships—two romantic and one mother-daughter, which is the heartbeat of the movie.” (06:31)

• Genre Consistency & Adaptation Challenges (07:06–09:27)

  • Adapting from book to film is tough due to books’ ability to be more intimate and immersive.
  • Allison on adaptation:

    “You want to make these characters feel familiar like they do after you've finished reading a book... You're declaring a definitive version of each person, which is intimidating.” (07:11–09:27)

Playing Morgan: Vulnerability, Rage, and Catharsis

• Accessing Rage & On-set “Primal Scream” (10:12–12:28)

  • The script demanded that Allison physically act out anger by beating up a car—a first for her:

    “Exercising, accessing, and then exercising rage in that way feels good... I hurt myself beating up the car. I, like, partially dislocated a rib. True fact.” (10:32–11:52)

  • The pivotal scream was unscripted:

    “That was an improvised scream... I just, like, scream at it at the end. And I was like, oh my God, what did I just do? That was so weird.” (11:57–12:16)

• Embracing and Disagreeing with Morgan (13:01–16:02)

  • Allison admits she both likes and has “big disagreements” with Morgan:

    “There's a question of letters. And I, like, vehemently and on the record disagree with Morgan's handling of the situation.” (15:07–16:02)

• Portraying Emotional Guardedness (13:16–13:31)

  • Danielle notes how Allison, known for her directness, plays a character who “holds so much back.”
  • Allison says she relates to characters “trying to access something but can’t, or are right on the verge of self-discovery... in process.” (13:31)

• Catharsis of Crying at Work (14:58)

  > “There is something... that feels good about a cry when you need one. And if you can time that out with your work schedule, like I have, it's nice.” (14:58)
  

Motherhood, Regret, and Identity

• Motherhood’s Impact on Regret (23:27–24:59)

  • Allison shares how parenthood transformed her view of regret:

    “Once I had a kid, my relationship with regret changed completely... Anything went differently, this kid doesn't exist exactly the way he is. And so I'm like, I can't regret anything. I can't regret literally anything.” (23:27)

• Connecting Real Life to Role (25:08–29:09)

  • Allison reflects on channeling her postpartum depression into Morgan’s early scenes.
  • She draws sharp distinctions between her own motherhood (becoming a parent at 33) and Morgan’s (a teen mother):

  “Doing it at 17 versus 33 is like a completely different experience.” (25:19–26:56)

  • On losing (or finding) oneself in motherhood:

    “For me, it's been about adding it to the list of ways that I identify and see myself... But I also have friends who had that experience of feeling a little bit lost, a little bit at sea, and then they became moms. And they're like, oh, this was it. And then some were like, this wasn’t it.” (27:15–28:10)

Thematic Deep Dive: “Regretting You”

• The Letters — Turning Point (17:37–19:08)
  • The mysterious “letters” are a focal point and source of visible disagreement:

    “Crucially and annoyingly, she (Morgan) doesn’t read them... This is the biggest point of departure I have from her.” (18:29–18:44)

  • Danielle:

    “Would you have done what she does with them? No. I'm so nosy.” (18:52–18:54)

  • Allison:

    “100%, at very least, kept—like, just for later. Life is long. Curiosity is powerful.” (19:04–19:08)

Craft, Career, and Representation

• Connecting Diverse Roles (29:16–31:31)
  • Allison’s career through lines: interrogating the “white woman” identity, from outright villainy (Get Out) to entitled techies (Megan) to complex maternal figures (Regretting You):

    “The white woman, the whitest of white women, is sort of my corner, and they wreak havoc, they do good things, they are loud and proud... examining that from every angle is my pursuit.” (29:32)

  • Danielle observes:

    “You take this, like, perfectionism or, like, American white female and turn it into cultural criticism.” (31:31)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Being Vulnerable:

  “I also have played a lot of characters who are kind of keeping everyone, including themselves, at arm's distance. So it was really nice to just be able to, like, feel things and be vulnerable.” (11:52)

• Motherhood and Regret:

  “I think my feeling about regret is always commensurate with how happy and content I am in my life at any given moment.” (23:27)

• Adaptation Anxiety:

  “Who knows if my mental image of Morgan... matched what anyone who's read the book already pictured in their mind's eye? That's a lot of responsibility.” (09:08)

• Literary Lightning Round (38:44–40:52):

  • Favorite adaptation: “Sense and Sensibility.” (39:04)
  • Book she wants to adapt: “The Phantom Tollbooth.” (39:08)
  • Book that best captures motherhood: “Emily Oster books. One for the mother hive out there.” (39:14)
  • Last book to make her cry: "A biography for children about David Bowie." (39:21)
  • Favorite Book Club Snack: "Movie theater butter, microwave popcorn—extra." (40:42)

• A Touching Family “Bookmark”:

  Allison shares an unforgettable conversation with her young son about birth, pain, and empathy:
  “He asked me why placenta doesn't get belly buttons... It's just gotten stuck in my head... His concern for the efficacy and advocacy in that moment... is just something I can't stop thinking about. It’s a permanent bookmark.” (36:25)

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Important Segment Timestamps

| Segment | Timestamp | |-------------------------------------------------------|------------| | Allison’s Introduction & Girls Character Comparison | 05:01–06:14| | Adaptation & Genre Talk | 06:17–09:27| | Playing Morgan: Rage and Scream | 10:12–12:28| | Vulnerability a Cry as Catharsis | 13:01–14:58| | Motherhood and Regret | 23:27–24:59| | The Letters Debate | 17:37–19:08| | Connecting Career Themes | 29:16–31:44| | Literary Lightning Round | 38:44–40:52| | Allison’s Personal Bookmark (family story) | 36:25–38:44|

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Tone & Language

The episode is candid, witty, and emotionally open—true to both Danielle’s warm hosting style and Allison’s blend of relatability and self-effacing humor. The conversation feels both accessible and intellectually curious, inviting listeners into the book-club intimacy and the behind-the-scenes anxieties and joys of literary adaptation.

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For Listeners Who Haven’t Tuned In

This episode is an engaging deep dive into adaptation, motherhood, regret, and artistic vulnerability. It’s filled with heartfelt candor (and a few hearty laughs). Whether you love Colleen Hoover, are curious about the page-to-screen process, or just want to hear an actor open up about the messiness and beauty of family, there’s something here for you—just don’t forget the tissues.

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Selected Memorable Quotes

• Allison Williams, on accessing rage (11:52):
  “There's a reason that rage rooms exist. It's all in there. It's just sitting there, waiting to be unleashed.”

• On disagreeing with your character (15:07):
  “That's interesting. It's interesting to walk someone through... but in this way, I was like, ugh, I wish she made a different choice. But it's my job to understand that choice.”

• On adaptation anxiety (09:08):
  “You're declaring a definitive version of each person, which is intimidating because who knows if my mental image of Morgan... matched what anyone who's read the book already pictured in their mind's eye.”

• On perfectionism and identity (31:44):
  "There's a quote from Marnie that she's saying at her wedding about her culture, which is white Christian woman, I think... it's not our culture, but it is like a type of person we're all just surrounded by."

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Closing Note

The episode closes with Allison sharing her “bookmark” moment—a touching conversation with her son—and a playful book-themed lightning round, leaving listeners with thoughtful reflections on motherhood, identity, and the power of great stories.

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(Ad reads, outros, and non-content segments have been omitted in this summary.)

Transcript

[Allison Williams]

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[Movie Trailer Narrator]

Happens when tragedy uncovers the secrets we thought were buried forever? See Paramount pictures. Regretting youg October 24th the powerful new romance film based on Colleen Hoover's bestselling novel. Starring Allison Williams, McKenna Grace, Dave Franco in Mason Thames, this heart tugging story explores the fragile, beautiful bond between a mother and daughter tested by love, betrayal and loss. Bring your mom, your best friend, or your whole book club. And don't forget the tissues. You'll laugh, you'll cry, and you'll leave feeling everything. Regretting you Only in theaters October 24th.

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[Danielle Robaix]

Welcome to Bookmarked by Reese's Book Club. If you want a full on emotional rollercoaster, Colleen Hoover Never misses. Her 2019 bestseller, Regretting youg dives deep into the messy, beautiful bond between a mother and daughter and also love, loss and secrets. And now it's headed to the big screen. Colleen Hoover's Regretting youg from Paramount Pictures drops October 24th, and we have an exclusive preview right here on Bookmark. I sat down with one of its stars and executive producers, Allison Williams, at a really special event in New York City. We were surrounded by book talkers, book girlies, and book lovers. Basically all my favorite people in one room. And I have to tell you, I went into this episode as a fan of Allison's work. I think she has this quality about her on screen that no matter what character she's playing, good or evil, you just trust her. And that tension is so rare in an actor. But now I'm a fan of Allison Williams, the person. She is hilarious and grounded, kind and just so real. So if you're into stories that tug at your heart and make you think about the people who shape us most. Oh, and a little girl's nostalgia, you're in the right place. Let's turn the page with Allison Williams. Okay. Welcome to a live podcast recording of Bookmarked by Reese's Book Club. Our guest today is somebody that you know from Girls from Get out from Megan. She's built a career on choosing stories that surprise us, and now she's bringing her signature warmth and depth to something new. She's executive producing and starring in the adaptation of Colleen Hoover's Regretting you from Paramount Pictures. So let's stand up and give a big bookmarked by Reese's Book Club. Welcome to the Alison Williams. Alison, welcome to the club.

[Allison Williams]

Thank you. I'm so happy to be here.

[Danielle Robaix]

We're so happy you're in the club.

[Allison Williams]

I mean, English majors is like kind of what it's all been for.

[Danielle Robaix]

It's true.

[Allison Williams]

What else is leading you to why did I read Ulysses if not for this moment? Can someone answer that?

[Danielle Robaix]

So everyone in this room has only seen the trailer of Regretting youg, and we're all dying to see how you bring the character Morgan to life for anybody who has not read the book. We're about 50.

[Allison Williams]

50 here.

[Movie Trailer Narrator]

Okay.

[Allison Williams]

Okay, great. We'll keep it spoiler free. You guys are in the know.

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[Danielle Robaix]

So for anyone who hasn't read the book so they can get an idea of Morgan, is she more of a Marnie, a Jessa, a Hannah, or a shosh?

[Allison Williams]

It's 100% of the audience has seen Girls has read this book, I would say. I think Morgan is. It's so funny picturing any of the girls with this much responsibility. She's the closest to Amarni, but I can't tell if that's just like their shared DNA or maybe she's Shosh. She's a Shosh Rising. I don't know what that means in astrology, but I went for it. Yeah, I think she's like a Marnie. Shosh hybrid is my kind of guess.

[Danielle Robaix]

I actually really agree with you.

[Allison Williams]

Oh, good. I'm glad.

[Danielle Robaix]

Okay, so at first I was gonna say that Regretting you is your first romance film, but then I went on booktok and there's actually a lot of debate on there on whether the story is a romance or a family saga. I'm wondering how you see it.

[Allison Williams]

When we were making the movie, we kind of talked about it as being primarily about three relationships, two of which I would say are romantic in the typical sense of the word. And then one is kind of about finding the love in a relationship. There's an older adult love that I am part of, then there's a younger love story, and then there's the mother daughter relationship. And to me, that is sort of the heartbeat of the movie. But the driving forces of it are kind of a combination of all three of them, I would say. I think it's a. I think it's. I think there's a love story in here. There's a couple of them is what I would say.

[Danielle Robaix]

Do you think that the book and the film live in the same genre?

[Allison Williams]

Ooh, good question. Yeah, I do. I do. I think I'm really proud of, like, adapting a book is hard, and I'm really proud of the way we've been able to do it. We all were so aware of how high the standards are. And as people who love books, like, we intuitively know that it's a challenge. You wanna make these characters feel familiar like they do after you've finished reading a book. And this one's told from alternating first person perspectives, so it's like really intimate. The book finishes, really feel like you know these people. So knowing that it's intimidating. But I feel very proud that we were able to, like, take the essence of the book and render it on the screen. It's so hard. I mean, we only have a movie's amount of time, but we did our best.

[Danielle Robaix]

When you say it's hard as a non actor, non writer, what about adapting is so different and difficult?

[Allison Williams]

Great question. Because most of what was hard, I did not have to do, like, writing the script. But I guess from like a. From even a producing standpoint, like, as a steward of the movie, you just wanna make sure that it is faithful to the source material, that it has its own thing to say. Cause otherwise, why do it? Like, the exercise of adapting a book is kind of interesting from the start, because if the book is excellent, then let it just be a book. But some books I've put down, and I'm like, I never need to see that adapted. I loved it. It needs to stay there. And then some of them are, like, just dancing in my head, and I'm like, I wanna see that moving in 3D, like, on screen. And so I think making sure that you. You cling to the moments, the lines, the dynamics that feel essential to what it is. And then, like, expanding in areas where maybe the book can't because of the medium that it is, trying to take advantage of the fact that it is visual and you have all of these other senses you can work with. But it's hard. You're declaring a definitive version of each person, which is intimidating because who knows if my mental image of Morgan, which was me, because I hadn't read the book before I read it for this project, but who knows if that matched what anyone who's read the book already pictured in their mind's eye. That's like, you know, that's a lot of responsibility.

[Danielle Robaix]

It is. Especially a Colleen Hoover book, because people just are so fanatic.

[Allison Williams]

Yes, totally. I'm in the hive. I get it. I understand. I feel the same thing. I feel very, like, both protective and open. Kind of like a combo.

[Danielle Robaix]

Mm. Mm. Your character, Morgan, as we know her from the book and from the trailer, really goes through it. She goes through a lot.

[Allison Williams]

She really does. Yeah, it was fun.

[Danielle Robaix]

Death, betrayal.

[Allison Williams]

That part wasn't fun. Yeah.

[Danielle Robaix]

A really angsty teen daughter, which was almost worse than the death.

[Allison Williams]

Yes, that's hard. I have not had to handle that yet. Just toddler, which apparently they're very similar stages, but I'm very grateful to be dealing with the one that's, like, also talking about dinosaurs and not, like, Drugs.

[Danielle Robaix]

Did you feel like it was freeing or was it frightening to sit in the feelings of anger and resentment?

[Allison Williams]

I found it freeing because I don't often. I was just thinking about this last night watching the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City about Shout Out.

[Danielle Robaix]

She's one of us.

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[Allison Williams]

Obviously, I'm a person of the pulse. Watching the free expression of rage and frustration and standing up and sitting down and walking away and coming back and like, these, like, big physical gestures. Like, I don't. I can't, like, pull that off in my day to day. It's all very wasp y. It's very understated. It's very, like, calm. When I'm angry, it's like I'm just biting and mean. Less, like, physically aggressive. So beating up a car is something that I've, like, never even thought to do in my normal life. So exercising, accessing and then exercising rage in that way feels good. Good. Like, there's a reason that rage rooms exist. It's all in there. It's just. Just sitting there, waiting to be, like, unleashed. I hurt myself beating up the car. I, like, partially dislocated a rib. True, true fact. I know I'm like, basically Tom Cruise beating up a car with a duffel bag. But, yeah, like, that is cathartic. And I also have played a lot of characters who are kind of keeping everyone, including themselves, at arm's distance. So it was really nice to just be able to, like, feel things and be vulnerable. And I don't know, vulnerable is such an overused word. Vulnerable. Lisa. I'm sorry. I just, like, can't stop thinking about Sal Lake City. Lisa's being vulnerable. We're all vulnerable.

[Danielle Robaix]

Well, you kind of do give, like, this Real Housewives primal scream in the trailer.

[Allison Williams]

Yes. That was an improvised scream. Yeah.

[Danielle Robaix]

So I want to know all about this scream.

[Movie Trailer Narrator]

It just.

[Allison Williams]

I don't know. I've always been like, what must it be like to be an actor that's just, like, having screams like, you don't plan. Like, that seems insane. And then cut to. I'm just, like, beating up a car, and I just, like, scream at it at the end. And I was like, oh, my God, what did I just do? That was so weird.

[Danielle Robaix]

It just came out of.

[Allison Williams]

You just came out when you're like. I don't know. I've never done that before. But I guess when you do that, when you're beating up a car, it. A scream might come out. I don't know.

[Danielle Robaix]

It was like this primal howl.

[Allison Williams]

Yeah. I know, I didn't have a childbirth thing experience that included, like, pushing. And I've heard that that can be part of it where, like, the. The baby's out and then you're like, oh, my God, what noises did I make? And where did they come from in here? I've never, like, seen that part of me before. And I guess I, like, bottled it away when I didn't get to do it during the C section and then just, like, unleashed it in this moment.

[Danielle Robaix]

I really liked Morgan, and I also wanted to yell at her.

[Allison Williams]

I know.

[Listener Avery]

A lot.

[Allison Williams]

Yeah.

[Danielle Robaix]

Which speaks to you as an actress. Cause that's hard to do. There's like, I've played a lot of.

[Allison Williams]

People that we want to yell at for different reasons.

[Danielle Robaix]

That's true, actually.

[Allison Williams]

I may also just be someone you want to yell at. And that's okay. I'm comfortable with that. People have done it.

[Danielle Robaix]

But here's the tension I'm curious about because I've watched a lot of your interviews, and you're a very forthright person and you grew up with a professional communicator in your house. Like, you're honest, you're direct. What was it like for you to play a character that holds so much back?

[Allison Williams]

For some reason, I've really always gravitated towards characters that are not just like, open books. And maybe that speaks to, like, I am kind of like that. I am actually, like, very open, but simultaneously quite private. And I don't really know. That's so inarticulate. I don't really know how to express it. It's just. It feels true. And so the characters that I have been able to relate to are often, like, trying to access something but can't, or are right on the verge of self discovery in some way, but not quite there. They're in, like, process. And so playing someone that was. That we are seeing, like, really going through it felt very new to me in this movie and felt very vulnerable. And. Yeah, I don't know. It was really fun and challenging. Of course, like, grief is painful. Like, it's hard to go to that place for any reason. And so it's hard to summon that for a whole movie. Like, McKenna and Mason were joking that in, like, every scene they're either, like, weeping or kissing. And it's true that we all did a lot of. We were sad a lot. And so that part isn't comfortable. But there is something, and I think some of you might experience this pretty soon, but there is something that feels good about a cry. When you need one. And if you can time that out with your work schedule, like I have been able to do on occasion, it's. It's nice. This felt like a really cathartic challenge, I guess.

[Danielle Robaix]

I learned recently that we actually release oxytocin when we cry. Like, tears was made for us.

[Allison Williams]

That makes sense.

[Danielle Robaix]

Did you like Morgan?

[Allison Williams]

I did, but she drove me crazy too. And I, like, have really big disagreements with her about certain things. But I don't think it's fun to play someone that I am, like, fully aligned with. I mean, I'm sure, like, for. I don't know if you're Julia Roberts, you're playing Erin Brockovich, you're like, yeah, this is like, do all those things. Like, you should do that. I'm on your side. And I. I am always on the side of the characters I play. But, like, there's. I don't wanna spoil anything, but there's a question of letters. And I, like, vehemently and on the record disagree with Morgan's handling of the situation. And that's interesting. It's interesting to, like, walk someone through. I mean, I played like a. Like an evil white supremacist. So I'm not a stranger to disagreeing with the character that you're playing. But in this way, I was like, ugh, I wish she made a different choice. But it's my job to understand that choice. That is sort of the job of acting. It's, like, making it feel real and like it's grounded in something for the character, even if you disagree with it.

[Danielle Robaix]

This is my only sort of personal question for you, which is, I've already.

[Allison Williams]

Talked about my C section.

[Listener Avery]

Like, you're.

[Allison Williams]

You're good.

[Danielle Robaix]

I heard someone over here whisper. She's so funny. Oh, my God. Thank you. But one of Morgan's challenges as a mom to a rebellious teen is that she's. She's not well mannered. And you're. You're mad a lot. And I was. I was watching it, thinking, we all have our eras. I was a late bloomer. I had my rebellious era during COVID which was, like, too late in your 30s to be a bad girl.

[Allison Williams]

No, it's not.

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[Allison Williams]

You have to. I believe this, like, firmly. You must. You cannot skip it. It's coming. It has to come for you.

[Danielle Robaix]

So when. What was your era?

[Allison Williams]

Oh, mine was right on. I was very type A. I was. It's high school. It was, like, right when it was supposed to happen, when my hormones were raging. I was super rebellious, but I was rebellious. Like, throughout, like, you know, like, little mischief. But it became, like, you know, like, lying and doing all the things you're supposed to do. Just like, really testing those boundaries. That was, like, high school for me. And I feel so lucky that I did it because it would have come for me at some point. And can you imagine, like, being in this chair, like, in the middle of it? Like, that would be so stressful, being like, I'm rebelling right now. This is bad. What would I do? I don't know. It'd be scary.

[Danielle Robaix]

You probably wouldn't have shown up.

[Allison Williams]

Yeah, maybe. Or, like, late. I don't know. Great. I'm a little late. Any as late as I go, it's like three minutes. I feel horrible.

[Danielle Robaix]

Anyone who's read the book knows what I'm talking about when I mention the letters. For anybody who hasn't read it, the letters are a big sort of moment or turning point in the film.

[Allison Williams]

Yeah.

[Danielle Robaix]

Did you read what's in the letters?

[Allison Williams]

There's, like. There's levels to it.

[Danielle Robaix]

Okay.

[Allison Williams]

The letters on set are like prop letters. So nothing. It's like, ipsum, Lorem. It's like, not real words. Shout out to all the journalists out there, Lauren. Ipsum. I got it reversed. Then there's my idea of what's in them, which was sort of consensus, which was never, like, written down, per se, but I do feel like I read them. And so no and yes, I guess, is the answer.

[Danielle Robaix]

Did you at all ask Colleen what was in them?

[Allison Williams]

I know what's in them.

[Danielle Robaix]

You do?

[Allison Williams]

I feel like I do.

[Danielle Robaix]

Oh, okay.

[Allison Williams]

I needed to come up with, like, a definitive answer for it for myself. But crucially and annoyingly, she doesn't read them.

[Danielle Robaix]

Right. Understandably, though.

[Allison Williams]

Not understandably. This is the biggest point of departure I have from her. Would you have done what she does with them?

[Danielle Robaix]

No. I'm so nosy.

[Allison Williams]

I'm a journalist. Thank you. I guess I'm a child of journalists. Like, this is my instinct. I know, I know, I know.

[Danielle Robaix]

That's such a great question. Would you.

[Allison Williams]

No, that's what I'm saying.

[Danielle Robaix]

Yes.

[Allison Williams]

100%, at very least. Kept, like, just a later thing.

[Danielle Robaix]

Yeah.

[Allison Williams]

Like, you know, you weren't ready. Yeah. Life is long. Curiosity is powerful. Like, I agree. She. Yeah, she made the different choice, which I think is, again, like, that's what makes it interesting. It's like trying to make that feel real for the character in the movie. Hopefully we did that.

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[Movie Trailer Narrator]

Tragedy, one secret, two lives changed forever From Josh Boone, director of the Fault in Our Stars and the brilliant mind of Colleen Hoover comes Regretting youg, a deeply moving film about love, a mother and daughter torn apart by loss and their unbreakable bond as they are forced to rediscover each other. Starring Get Out's Allison Williams and Gifted's McKenna Grace and featuring Dave Franco and Mason Thames, Regretting youg will take you on a powerful journey through grief, healing and unexpected hope. With emotional depth, unforgettable performances and the kind of storytelling that lingers, this is the film event of the fall. Experience the heartbreak, witness the healing. Believe in second chances. Regretting youg is about healing, rediscovery and the resilience of women. It's the ultimate movie night. First love, family secrets and major plot twists. Bring your sister, your best friend, your mom and your book club. This is the ultimate movie night and prepare to feel it all. This film has a little bit of everything romance, tears and laughs. See Regretting youg Only in theaters October 24th at Just Roll.

[Danielle Robaix]

They believe the kitchen is where joy lives with their refrigerated dough. There's no fussy proofing, no hours of waiting, just big smells, big smiles and that first irresistible flaky bite. They do the hard part so you could skip straight to the fun. Just Roll Puff Pastry is made with non GMO high quality ingredients ready to roll with parchment paper straight from the fridge. No thawing, no stress, just golden bakery worthy layers every single time. With Just Roll, every bake is simple. From savory show stopping appetizers to sweet dessert masterpieces, this is a fresh way to bake. Familiar but better find just roll Puff Pastry in the refrigerated section of your grocery store or visit justroll.com to find a store near you. Apple Books is the best place to read, listen to or discover the books you love without a subscription right on your iPhone. And now there's a very exciting heads up for listeners. Apple Books is the official audiobook and ebook home for Reese's Book Club, so it's easier than ever to explore each monthly book pick, plus author curated collections and more all in one place. Open the Apple Books app to explore a world of books and audiobooks. You can set goals and track your reading progress. Get great recommendations for your next read or listen and enjoy it all on the go wherever you are. You can even share your books with up to five family members at no cost. Again, no subscription required. Visit Apple Co reeseapplebooks to find out more. That's Apple co reeseapplebooks and read or listen to Reese's current Pick and browse past selections today on Apple Books. The name of the movie Regretting you is it's heavy. Yeah, and I was thinking about it at all of my ex boyfriends and thinking, do I regret any of them or did they help me become who I am?

[Allison Williams]

That's the thing about once you have a kid. Well, I don't know about everybody else, but once I had a kid, my relationship with regret changed completely because like, let's get granular here. Like it's down to the follicle. It's down to the day of ovulation. It's down to the egg itself. Like anything went differently. This kid doesn't exist exactly the way he is. And so I'm like, I can't regret anything. I can't regret literally anything. I have little regrets since he's been born. But that's hard too because he's been around the whole time. So it's like even the things that I didn't do perfectly as a mom, I did in an effort to be better for him. And so it feels like, I don't know. I think my feeling about regret is always commensurate with how happy and content I am in my life at any given moment. And in the moments in my life where I have felt lost or upset or sad or depressed, it's been much easier for me to access that. So I guess it's a happy sign that I'm. It's. It's hard for me to feel that way, but I do feel it's so trite, but like it's gotta it's all. You have to go through it all to if you want to end up somewhere productive, if you want to avoid regret, which I do think I've. I am wired to and predisposed to try to do everything right and not make mistakes and get it right the first time.

[Danielle Robaix]

It's very Marnie of you.

[Allison Williams]

It's very Marnie. It's very. You know, it's just my wiring, but luckily, I. It's not possible. And if. If. Thank God, because otherwise, you know, there's no point to doing this whole thing if you're gonna do it right the first time. I don't know.

[Danielle Robaix]

You mentioned motherhood in the film. Your character Morgan is sort of invisible in her own life. Yeah, in some ways, it's a great.

[Allison Williams]

Way of putting it.

[Danielle Robaix]

Thank you. Did you feel like playing her and embodying this person changed the way that you showed up in real life as a mother?

[Allison Williams]

Um, I. I don't. I don't, But I do. I did use the inverse. Was true. Like, I used experiences from, like, my postpartum time when I was feeling very depressed and, like, withdrawn to influence the way we find Morgan at the beginning of the movie. I don't know that she would diagnose herself with depression or. Or would even. Not that she feels that way. In the book, she talks about feeling an emptiness but not really knowing where it's from. And there's a shot of her that you're about to see that's so weird and exciting, where she's just looking out the window of her kitchen, and it's the first time you see me in the current time period. And that's what I'm trying to convey. You guys let me know if you think I was successful. The challenges of a book adaptation and that emptiness, I think she knows intuitively is best left unexamined. Like, it's a better choice for her to just keep putting one foot in front of the other for as long as she possibly can without stopping everything and just, like, looking at it all with a microscope. And so that's the version of it that I can kind of relate to of, like, just needing to just cross hours off the day. If anyone has ever gone through a stage of life where it's felt like that, I. I definitely could relate to that. But the expression of motherhood from Morgan, like, wormed its way into my own techniques. I say that with love. We're also, like, fundamentally different experiences of motherhood. Like, yes, vaguely, we've both had children, but, like, doing it at 17 versus 33 is like, a completely different experience.

[Danielle Robaix]

I just remember you doing a podcast about motherhood and. And hearing you, and it was with two of your friends.

[Allison Williams]

Yeah.

[Danielle Robaix]

And you guys were all talking about your different experiences of motherhood, and one person mentioned not wanting to lose themself, and it reminded me of this character. Yeah.

[Allison Williams]

She's referring to my podcast, Landlines, which you should check out. It's hosted with my two best friends. Two of my best friends from growing up. We've known each other since, in one case, we were zero, and then the other, kindergarten. Yeah. I think losing yourself in motherhood is sort of like, both inevitable and a worthy way of checking in on some people find themselves in motherhood. And so I don't want to weigh in on what I think is the better version of it. For me, it's been about adding it to the list of ways that I identify and see myself as a human being, rather than it coming in and giving meaning and order to everything that I had been doing already. But I also have friends who had that experience of feeling a little bit lost, a little bit at sea, and then they became moms, and they're like.

[Danielle Robaix]

Oh, this was it.

[Allison Williams]

And then I know people who became parents and were kind of like, this wasn't it? So, as every experience is, I. I do feel like there's. Any version of it is fine. Like, just being able to be a parent is fucking hard. Being a person is hard. So, like, do you. And whatever version works is the best version of it. But it does feel like, for me, it was more about mixing, and it's a work in progress and it's constantly evolving because what motherhood means is also changing as he gets older. And so mixing it in with everything else is weird. It was much easier to do a day like this where it's a press day and I'm talking to people and I can just exist as a Persona the whole time rather than going back to my phone. And I have a message from brightwheel where my husband is asking the teacher, how did drop off go? And then I'm like, oh, my God, it was a hard time. Drop off. And I wasn't there. Like, that. That tug of war is so human and helpful and, like, means that my feet just can't leave the ground, which is too easy if you have this job. Like, I don't know.

[Danielle Robaix]

Like, it's a nice way of looking at it.

[Allison Williams]

Yeah. It's a grounding. It's nice. I just rambled.

[Danielle Robaix]

You didn't.

[Allison Williams]

That's what I do. It's a podcast. That's the medium.

[Danielle Robaix]

You didn't. At all. Okay, so you've played horror, you've played dark comedy, and now a Colleen Hoover emotional drama. What connects these roles for you? And is there sort of a through line? Are you trying to excavate something about human behavior?

[Allison Williams]

I don't know. I feel like my. I'm kind of trying to, like, mine my identity for everything I can. I'm. I feel like. I don't know how else. Like the white woman, the whitest of white women, is sort of my corner, and. And they wreak havoc, they do good things, they are loud and proud and get a lot of focus in our culture. And so I think examining that from every angle is sort of my pursuit. I'm never gonna try to tell the story of someone else's existence. But I think that, like, in get out, for example, the catharsis of being able to show the worst of what we're capable of was, like. It felt really important to me to really make her as evil as possible, just to help people understand the amount of harm that can be caused from people with our demographics. And then in a lesser way, just the entitlement of Gemma and Megan, of just unleashing this thing into the world, who's, yes, fabulous and a queen, but also is murdering people and terrifying. And, yeah, just examining that identity from every perspective, I feel like, is the through line. It's basically being like, when I was little and I imagined being an actor, I was like, oh, I'll wear prosthetics and I'll, like, look different, and I'll, you know, I don't know. I'll transform. And, yes, some of that is involved, but for the most part, rather than leaving my identity, it's sort of being like, you know, what. What is. What's left to be said about this identity? What's interesting, and given how much space, like, women of my demography take up in the world, like, might as well kind of interrogate that a little bit. And we all know Morgans, we all live amongst them. And so it's kind of like might as well kind of understand a version of what that means to go through.

[Danielle Robaix]

When I look at it, I think that you take this, like, perfectionism or, like, American White Female and turn it into cultural criticism.

[Allison Williams]

Yeah, that's what I'm going for. Yeah. What was the. Marnie, thank you so much. There's a quote from Marnie that she's saying at her wedding about her culture, which is white Christian woman, I think. And that line has always tickled me because I'm like, it's not our culture, but it is like a type of person we're all just surrounded by. And so it's like, okay, let's do the thing. Let's see them do everything well and badly and find out what it looks like.

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[Movie Trailer Narrator]

Tragedy, one secret, two lives changed forever From Josh Boone, director of the Fault in Our Stars and the brilliant mind of Colleen Hoover comes Regretting youg, a deeply moving film about love, a mother and daughter torn apart by loss and their unbreakable bond as they are forced to rediscover each other. Starring Get Out's Alison Williams and Gifted's McKenna Grace, and featuring Dave Franco and Mason Thames, Regretting youg will take you on a powerful journey through grief, heal and unexpected hope. With emotional depth, unforgettable performances, and the kind of storytelling that lingers, this is the film event of the fall. Experience the heartbreak, witness the healing. Believe in second chances. Regretting youg is about healing, rediscovery and the resilience of women. It's the ultimate movie night. First love, family secrets, and major plot twists. Bring your sister, your best friend, your mom, and your book club. This is the ultimate movie night. And prepare to feel it all. This film has a little bit of everything. Romance, tears and laughs. See Regretting youg Only in theaters October.

[Danielle Robaix]

24Th at Just Roll. They believe the kitchen is where joy lives with their refrigerated dough. There's no fussy proofing, no hours of waiting. Just big smells, big smiles, and that first irresistible flaky bite, its tiny hands helping unroll the dough. It's laughing over a slightly wonky cinnamon swirl. It's pulling golden puffed layers out of the oven and hearing that perfect crispy crackle. They do the hard part so you could skip straight to the fun Just Roll Puff Pastry is made with non GMO high quality ingredients ready to roll with parchment paper straight from the fridge. No thawing, no stress, just golden bakery worthy layers every single time. With Just Roll every bake is simple. From savory show stopping appetizers to sweet dessert masterpieces, this is a fresh way to bake. Familiar but better find Just Roll Puff Pastry in the refrigerated section of your grocery store or visit justroll.com to find a store near you Apple Books is the best place to read, listen to or discover the books you love without a subscription right on your iPhone. And now there's a very exciting heads up for listeners. Apple Books is the official audiobook and ebook home for Reese's Book Club, so it's easier than ever to explore each monthly book pick, plus author curated collections and more all in one place. Open the Apple Books app to explore a world of books and audiobooks. You can set goals and track your reading progress, get great recommendations for your next read, or listen and enjoy it all on the go, wherever you are. You can even share your books with up to five family members at no cost. Again, no subscription required. Visit Apple Co reeseapplebooks to find out more. That's Apple Co reeseapplebooks and read or listen to Reese's current Pick and browse past selections today on Apple Books. So every week I ask our guests what they've bookmarked this week. It can be a poem, a song, a quote, something that you've sent your best friend Allison. What have you bookmarked?

[Allison Williams]

I cannot stop thinking about a conversation that I had with our son two nights ago. He's very into how things work and this includes gestation and delivery of babies right now. And I'm not pregnant. I'm not announcing anything, although I now am like very split on like could he handle emotion now that he knows what he knows, which he knows everything about how it all works? Could he handle walking, helping someone through that experience? I think he'd be kind of. Anyway, he asked me why placenta doesn't get belly buttons, which was a great question. And I now I'm gonna like start do a startup for where? No, I'm kidding. It's like a Jordan Peele here's your next movie he was asking how he was able to communicate what birth felt like to him while he was being born. He was like, how could I tell the doctors if it was painful or not? How did they tell me what the plan is? And I was like, whoa. First of all, this is like, what happens when you just communicate a ton with your child as they expect to have been communicated with pretty when they were still in the womb, which he was. I talked to him constantly. But also, like, it just. It's just gotten stuck in my head. Thinking about, like, this is the first thing in some ways that we all go through is like, coming into the world and wondering. His concern for the efficacy and advocacy in that moment of the person going through it is just something I can't stop thinking about. Like, he was yearning for there to be a line of communication between just to coordinate the delivery. How did they know if it was painful to be slipping out or painful to be being pulled out or both? How did they know if it was gonna hoot? He says hoot like that. How did they know if it was hooting? And then he said, and how the doctors decide they have so many things in their minds it might get lost. And he was just very, like. I was like, wow. It's a very sweet, like, sensitive thought that's gonna haunt me for the rest of my days. It's like a permanent bookmark.

[Danielle Robaix]

So speed read. We put 60 seconds on the clock, and we're gonna see how many rapid fire literary questions we can get through.

[Allison Williams]

Great.

[Danielle Robaix]

Which is good. Rapid fire.

[Allison Williams]

That's good. Good to put a time limit on it. I'll still make it. I'll still take too long.

[Danielle Robaix]

Okay. Three, two. What is your favorite page to screen adaptation?

[Allison Williams]

Sense and Sensibility.

[Danielle Robaix]

A book you're dying to bring to the screen.

[Allison Williams]

The Phantom Tollbooth.

[Danielle Robaix]

Great answer.

[Allison Williams]

Favorite book of all time.

[Danielle Robaix]

Book that best captures motherhood.

[Allison Williams]

Like Emily Oster books. One for the mother hive out there.

[Danielle Robaix]

Last book that made you cry.

[Allison Williams]

Oh. A biography for children about David Bowie. Ooh, yeah.

[Danielle Robaix]

Favorite R.L. stine book. Real ones know that you wrote R.L. stine a letter at 8.

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[Allison Williams]

Thanks for being a real one, I think. Ooh, this is so hard. Any of the choose your own ending books. I loved those so much.

[Danielle Robaix]

Favorite book to recommend.

[Allison Williams]

Phantom Tolbooth.

[Danielle Robaix]

Best book you've never read.

[Allison Williams]

Oh, I never read. I haven't read War and Peace. And it's also just not coming up like that. Opportunity is not rising. But I never read. I made it through all of. Yeah. My whole English major without reading it.

[Danielle Robaix]

What's a book that shaped the way you see the world?

[Allison Williams]

Oh, my God. Oh, that's so hard. Oh, there's so many. One of the biggest influences on the way I saw the world were like, anything I read in my anthropology classes in college that fundamentally changed the way I see the world and the way it functions is like seeing us as a species has, like, I don't know. I was like, anthropology pilled. So maybe like the Harari books, like human or sapiens or, you know, Homo deus or whatever. Yeah.

[Danielle Robaix]

Okay, this is my last and favorite question. What's the most Alison Williams, Book club snack.

[Allison Williams]

Movie theater butter, microwave popcorn, extra.

[Danielle Robaix]

Butter or as is.

[Allison Williams]

Yeah, yeah. Movie theater butter, which is its own quantity of butter. It is like it's its own amount.

[Danielle Robaix]

I love it so much.

[Allison Williams]

Yeah. And warning, you're gonna crave popcorn when you see the movie because someone works in a movie theater and there's a lot of popcorn in the movie.

[Danielle Robaix]

Alison, thank you so much for joining us on Bookmarked. Everybody give Alison a round of applause. Okay, friends, before we wrap today's episode, I'm bringing back our monthly comfort segment from cotton. Called the Book Nook, this is where we explore the rituals that make reading feel just right. And as you know, cotton is at the heart of so many of those everyday comforts. Whether it's your softest worn in tee, the coziest throw you curl up with, or the crisp cotton sheets you sink into after a long day, cotton can ground us in comfort, which makes it the perfect companion for a good book. Hear from another bookmarked listener sharing their ideal reading setup.

[Listener Avery]

Hi, Danielle. Hi, Bookmarked. My name is Avery, and I'm calling in from Brooklyn. I take a book with me everywhere, but my favorite reading ritual is particular to us. Moving into autumn and might be a little morbid to some people, but hey, don't knock it till you try it. I live extremely close to a cemetery with super tall trees. The light filters through the trees in a super pleasing way, and leaves have already started to fall on this winding path that leads to a long wooden bench. And this bench is also shaded, which is perfect to keep the sun out of your face. No glare while you're reading. I sit down in this spot, and I just listen to the slice of nature around me. And usually there's the hum of one or two or three lawnmowers tending to these expansive cemetery grounds. After a few minutes of just grounding myself, I'll take out my book and a pen if it's not a library book, because I love to annotate while I read. The general lull of this environment is enough to keep me engrossed in any book for a good hour. I'm really wondering though, are there any other listeners that have some unusual spots where they like to delve into a good book? Thanks for listening. Happy reading everyone.

[Danielle Robaix]

Avery I love this. There's something so vivid about your ritual. The filtered light through the trees, the crunch of the leaves, the quiet hum of the world going by. It's a reminder that comfort doesn't always have to mean indoors. Sometimes it's about the natural textures all around us and of course, the literary companions we bring. I can just picture you with your book in hand. Maybe a cotton sweater to ward off that autumn chill, completely tucked into your own reading world. So friends, keep your ideal reading setups coming. What are you wearing? What's around you? Are you reading by sunlight or lamplight under a cotton throw or your coziest fall sweater? Take me right into your perfect reading ritual. Leave me a voicemail at 501-291-3379 or email a voice memo to bookmarkedesbookclub.com thanks to Cotton for bringing this segment to life and reminding us that comfort and style can go hand in hand. Don't forget to check the tag for cotton. And if you want to learn more, head to thefabricofourlives.com and if you want a little bit more from us, come hang with us on socials. We're at Reese's Book Club on Instagram serving up books, vibes and behind the scenes magic. And I'm Danielle Robay, R O B A Y Come say hi and DM me. And if you want to go 90s on us, call us. Okay, our phone line is open, so call now at 1-501-291-3379. That's 1, 501-291-3379. Share your literary hot takes, book recommendations, questions about the monthly pick, or let us know what you think about the episode you just heard. And who knows, you might just hear yourself in our next episode. So don't be shy, give us a ring. And of course, make sure to follow Bookmark by Reese's Book Club on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your shows. Until then, see you in the next chapter. Bookmarked is a production of hello Sunshine and iheart Podcast. It's executive produced by Reese Witherspoon and me Danielle Robaix. Production is by Acast Creative Studios. Our producers are Matty Foley, Brittany Martinez, Sarah Schlied and Darby Masters. Our production assistant is Avery Loftus. Jenny Kaplan and Emily Rutter are the executive producers for Acast Creative Studios. Maureen Polo and Reese Witherspoon are the executive producers for hello Sunshine. Olga Kaminwa, Kristen Perla and Ashley Rapoport are associate producers for Reese's Book Club. Ally Perry and Lauren Hanson are the executive producers for iHeart podcasts.

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[Movie Trailer Narrator]

Happens when tragedy uncovers the secrets we thought were buried forever? See Paramount pictures. Regretting youg October 24th the powerful new romance film based on Colleen Hoover's best selling novel. Starring Allison Williams, McKenna Grace, Dave Franco and Mason Thames, this heart tugging story explores the fragile, beautiful bond between a mother and daughter tested by love, betrayal and loss. Bring your mom, your best friend or your whole book club. And don't forget the tissues. You'll laugh, you'll cry, and you'll leave feeling everything. Regretting youg Only in theaters October 24th.

[Danielle Robaix]

Today's episode is brought to you by Cotton. We spend a lot of time with stories, hours curled up with dynamic plots and characters who feel like friends. What if the story isn't just in your hands but also in the world around you, in the fabric that's holding you close? Cotton is that timeless companion. Soft sheets for a lazy weekend morning with a book. Breezy dresses for afternoons spent reading in the backyard. It's the fabric that can be tossed in the wash without fuss. It's about ease, comfort and caring for yourself and the planet. Just like books we cherish, cotton weaves meaning into everyday moments. Next time you settle in for a chapter, slip into something cotton. Not just to read the story, but to feel it. Cotton. The fabric of our lives. Learn more at thefabricofarlives.com@just roll they believe the kitchen is where joy lives with their refrigerated dough. There's no fussy proofing, no hours of waiting. Just big smells, big smiles and that first irresistible flaky bite. Its tiny hands helping unroll the dough. It's laughing over a slightly wonky cinnamon swirl. It's pulling golden puffed layers out of the oven and hearing that perfect crispy crackle. They do the hard part so you could skip straight to the fun. Just Roll Puff Pastry is made with non GMO high quality ingredients ready to roll with parchment paper straight from the fridge. No thawing, no stress, just golden bakery worthy layers every single time. With Just Roll, every bake is simple. From savory show stopping appetizers to sweet dessert masterpieces, this is a fresh way to bake. Familiar but better. Find Just Roll Puff Pastry in the refrigerated section of your grocery store or visit justroll.com to find a store near you. This is an I Heart podcast.