These 10+ Hacks Are Game-Changers For Summer Hair, Featuring Emma Stone's Hairstylist Mara Roszak

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Episode Title: These 10+ Hacks Are Game-Changers For Summer Hair, Featuring Emma Stone's Hairstylist Mara Roszak
Release Date: August 6, 2025
Hosts: Jill Dunn and Carlene Higgins
Guest: Mara Roszak, renowned hairstylist to Emma Stone and other Oscar-winning actresses

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1. Introduction and Guest Background

[08:40]
Hosts Jill Dunn and Carlene Higgins warmly welcome Mara Roszak, highlighting her impressive portfolio. Mara is celebrated for styling the hair of five different Oscar-winning actresses during their award nights, including Emma Stone, Brie Larson, Michelle Yeoh, and Zoe Saldana. Her hairstyles are renowned for their timeless elegance, likened to pieces that belong in the Smithsonian.

Notable Quote:
Jill Dunn [08:44]: "I've loved your work for many years now, and the topic of the hour is all about getting your best summer hair yet."

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2. Summer Hair Predictions for 2025

[12:08] - [13:31]
Mara Roszak shares her insights on upcoming summer hair trends for 2025. She predicts a resurgence of beach waves, emphasizing a more natural and airy aesthetic termed "ghost waves." These waves focus on imperfection and natural texture, moving away from the overly perfected styles of previous years. She anticipates an increase in layers and overall lightness in hairstyles to complement the effortless summer vibe.

Notable Quote:
Mara Roszak [12:24]: "A ghost wave. So it's really that airiness. It's really about the imperfection. It's about more of the natural texture."

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3. Embracing Natural Hair Texture

[13:41] - [15:00]
The discussion shifts to embracing and managing diverse hair textures. Mara emphasizes the importance of using versatile products that cater to multiple hair types, drawing parallels to how skin care products are formulated for various skin conditions. She highlights Rose, her clean hair care brand launched in 2021, which offers products designed for effortless air drying without the heaviness that traditional styling products often add.

Notable Quote:
Mara Roszak [15:00]: "I think hair has been a confusing category. I think we've been marketed to in very specific ways... I've really wanted to flip that on its head."

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4. Key Summer Hair Hacks

a. Air Drying Techniques

[19:37] - [20:26]
Mara provides detailed steps for effective air drying to minimize frizz and enhance natural texture:

• Shower Prep: Use a hydrating cleanser and conditioner to thoroughly remove buildup.
• Detangling: Apply a detangling product while hair is damp and brush gently.
• Towel Method: Utilize lightweight towels, such as the newly launched Rose x The Great hair towel, which mimics the functionality of a silk scarf without the weight, preserving natural texture.

Notable Quote:
Mara Roszak [19:37]: "Key is how it starts in the shower... prepping with some kind of a detangler and then brush your hair when it's very wet."

b. Braiding for Waves

[23:54] - [26:21]
Mara introduces braiding techniques to create effortless waves:

• Timing: Braid hair when it's partially dry to ensure some hold without excessive frizz.
• Technique: Create half braids on the top and bottom sections, allowing the hair to dry into soft waves.
• Products: Use Rose’s Air Thickening Spray to add lightweight hold and definition post-braiding.

Notable Quote:
Mara Roszak [24:07]: "You put your products in before you go to braid, and this is after you've towel dried. You're not sopping wet."

c. Heat Styling Tips

[30:20] - [31:40]
For those opting to use heat tools, Mara recommends:

• Tools: GHD and T3 curling irons for controlled heat application.
• Technique: Wrap hair around the barrel without clamping tightly to maintain natural movement.
• Heat Settings: Use medium to high settings, avoiding the highest temperatures to prevent hair from falling flat.

Notable Quote:
Mara Roszak [31:07]: "I usually like to keep [the curling iron] open the whole time... wrap the hair around it, let it twist around."

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5. Caring for Curly Hair in Summer

[33:07] - [35:46]
Mara offers specialized advice for managing curly hair during the summer:

• Hydration: Use heavier masks and thicker oils to combat dryness caused by humidity and saltwater exposure.
• Product Layering: Combine Rose’s Milk Hair Serum with protective oils for enhanced moisture and definition.
• Application: Apply products to damp hair, ensuring even distribution without weighing down curls.

Notable Quote:
Mara Roszak [34:16]: "The curlier your hair is, the drier it is... you want to use heavier masks actually in the summertime."

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6. Managing Bangs in Summer

[36:17] - [38:00]
Mara discusses styling bangs, particularly in short haircuts like Emma Stone’s pixie:

• Style Selection: Opt for longer, swinging bangs that frame the face and offer versatility.
• Maintenance: Regular trims to prevent greasiness and use dry shampoo to maintain freshness.
• Styling Techniques: Utilize lightweight oils and style creams to keep bangs sleek without stiffness.

Notable Quote:
Mara Roszak [37:40]: "I tend to like to do a longer bang that's maybe swinging... keeping the shortest pieces in between the arches of the eyebrows."

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7. Signature Styling Products

[41:04] - [44:50]
Mara highlights her clean hair care line, Rose, focusing on the following products:

• Foundation Shampoo & Conditioner: Formulated with coconut-based surfactants, peptides, ceramides, and a proprietary botanical blend to cleanse without stripping, while providing hydration and maintaining color.
• Milk Hair Serum: A lightweight, versatile serum infused with hyaluronic acid, suitable for all hair types to add moisture and reduce frizz without weighing hair down.
• Air Thickening Spray: Provides lightweight hold and enhances natural waves, perfect for post-braiding or defining curls.

Notable Quote:
Mara Rosak [43:00]: "We use coconut-based surfactants for our shampoo and conditioner... our foundation shampoo does..."

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8. Exclusive Collaboration and Product Launch

[20:26] - [23:08]
Mara introduces her collaboration with The Great, an American fashion brand, resulting in a chic, limited-edition hair towel designed to emulate the functionality and comfort of a sweatshirt while being perfect for drying hair without added weight. The Rose x The Great hair towel features smooth cotton on the outside and French terry on the inside, ensuring optimal hair texture preservation.

Notable Quote:
Mara Roszak [22:33]: "It has the ribbing. It has... it's the perfect weight for your hair."

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9. Personal Insights and Future Plans

[45:38] - [47:25]
Mara shares glimpses of her personal life, including managing her salon amid a busy schedule involving celebrity work and motherhood. She expresses her passion for hairstyling and her intent to return to hands-on work as her newborn grows.

Notable Quote:
Mara Roszak [46:17]: "I've had assistants who have been on the floor now for years... I do plan to when the baby gets a little bit older."

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10. Conclusion

[47:34] - [48:39]
The episode wraps up with hosts directing listeners to their website for detailed product information and exclusive promo codes. They encourage audience engagement through social media and provide contact details for feedback.

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Key Takeaways

• Embrace Natural Texture: Focus on enhancing and working with your hair's natural texture using lightweight, versatile products.
• Effective Air Drying: Proper shower prep and the right towel can significantly reduce frizz and preserve natural waves.
• Product Versatility: Investing in multi-functional products like Rose's Milk Hair Serum and Air Thickening Spray can simplify summer hair routines.
• Styling Flexibility: Techniques such as braiding and using the right heat tools can achieve effortless summer styles without damaging hair.
• Innovative Collaborations: Brands like Rose are expanding their offerings through thoughtful collaborations, enhancing user experience with products like the Rose x The Great hair towel.

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Transcript

[Carlene Higgins]

The following podcast is a Dear media production welcome to Breaking Beauty the podcast, all about the breakthrough people, products and moments in beauty.

[Jill Dunn]

We're your hosts, Jill Dunn and Carlene Higgins. Welcome back to another episode of Breaking Beauty podcast. I'm one of your co hosts, Jill Dunn, and I'm here with Carlene Higgins. Hey, Carlene. Hi.

[Carlene Higgins]

Hi, Jill. How are you?

[Jill Dunn]

I'm doing pretty good, you know, ready for some good hair days this summer. But they're not going to be as good as yours. Like, very jealous.

[Carlene Higgins]

A you need not be jealous, Jill. I'll be thinking of you the whole time I'm in Italy.

[Jill Dunn]

Please don't. Just forget about work. Forget about microphones, forget about SD cards.

[Mara Rosak]

Right.

[Jill Dunn]

Forget about it all and let your. Let your hair down or not. Are you going to have like a silk scarf going on? Like overlooking the Mediterranean, eating gelato, sipping a spritz?

[Carlene Higgins]

Well, it is kind of the moment and actually it comes in handy because it's probably going to be about 100 degrees in Italy while I'm there. So I, I'll be bringing a wardrobe of silk scarves, I think.

[Jill Dunn]

Ooh, chic.

[Carlene Higgins]

If you don't know us by now, we're Carlene and Jill, two longtime magazine beauty editors turned beauty podcasters, delivering the breakthrough people, products and moments in beauty each and every Wednesday. Whether we're chatting about products that are worth the spend, interviewing famous faces like Victoria Beckham, or sharing the mic with beloved skin, makeup and hair pros who know all of the secret little tricks to help us level up our beauty games.

[Jill Dunn]

And this week we're calling on a hair guru with major, I'm talking major Hollywood glam cred. And that's Mara Rosak. Mara is probably best known as Emma Stone's hair stylist and found. Fun fact. Mara's actually done the hair for five different Oscar winning actresses on the night they won. Like her hairstyles are probably like in the Smithsonian or something. Like they've been recorded forever, which I think is really cool. She's worked with Emma Stone twice when she won her Oscar, Brie Larson when she won her Oscar, Michelle Yeoh when she won her Oscar, and Zoe Saldana, which was just this past season.

[Carlene Higgins]

Wow. So if these actresses are smart, they'll try and get in with her before the Oscars, you know, just, just cuz right. She's got the golden touch for real. And Mara actually launched her own line, a clean hair care brand in 2021 called Rose. It's spelled Roz. She started out with just One hair oil and it's now become an entire range. She has several skews. The shampoo is a new favorite of mine and as of earlier this year, the range is officially available in Sephora stores.

[Jill Dunn]

And she just launched a little travel kit. Everyone that I actually have been traveling with because it's really hard to get travel size hair products that are done by a stylist basically. So I'm really liking this little set. It's perfect. Got a packet for Italy. Carlene.

[Carlene Higgins]

Yes. I need this.

[Jill Dunn]

I really appreciate that Mara has this unique perspective because she's this Southern California native girl and she's got that effortless hair look on lock. She personally has a very cool look because she has this long, mermaid esque hair that's a really cool mix of textures. It's wavy, it's curly, it's straighter in some parts. It's very long, blonde. And I think she's mastered her own hair type and texture so she can really work with anyone.

[Carlene Higgins]

Yeah.

[Jill Dunn]

So this week we're asking Mara all about her tips and tricks to get your best summer hair days possible. I am taking notes.

[Carlene Higgins]

Yes. Everything from how to air dry for the best results so it doesn't turn out frizzy. How she advises her clients to manage bangs, her fresh spin on a ponytail this summer and how to ace a seriously slick style and make it elevated for summer 2025.

[Jill Dunn]

And Carlene, we got a sneak peek from Mara about a super cool collaboration she's doing with the American fashion brand called the Great. It's a very chic hair towel, everyone. And it's limited edition. And Carlene, I know you swear by this brand's pajamas, don't you?

[Carlene Higgins]

Yeah, I've talked about them so many times. The Great has these drop crotch pajamas that in the softest cotton. So they really are the most comfortable thing you can wear to bed. Listen, do I look hot in them? I'm gonna say probably not, but they are so comfy.

[Jill Dunn]

And so Mara is going to share the entire inspiration behind that and how she came up with that, that idea. And I always find, Carlene, that with hair stylists when we speak to them specifically, it's a really good one to watch on YouTube because they can't help themselves. They are like demoing with their hands what they would do, like pointing down a curling iron or how she would hold a brush or do the blowout or what have you or where you would place the ponytail. So go over and check us out on YouTube. It's Breaking Beauty Podcast and hit the little once you subscribe, also hit the little bell for turning on the notifications. And then you know when we have dropped an episode and we're getting more and more people finding us on YouTube and watching our episodes. So we are really grateful. And anything that Mara mentions today we have linked to it on our website, which is breaking beauty podcast.com we've got you there. So welcome Mara Rosak.

[Mara Rosak]

SA.

[Carlene Higgins]

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[Mara Rosak]

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[Jill Dunn]

Welcome to Breaking Beauty Podcast. Mara, thank you so much for being here.

[Mara Rosak]

Thank you so much for having me. I'm thrilled.

[Jill Dunn]

It's been a long time coming. I've loved your work for many years now, and the topic of the hour is all about getting your best summer hair yet. And I feel like you are the woman for this job. Love it. Because I understand you kind of mastered your own hair at, like, a very young age, like, coming of age. You were a budding hairstylist. Tell us everything.

[Carlene Higgins]

And I'm going to be rude and jump in before you answer, because for the listeners who are maybe not watching this on YouTube, we need to describe what you look like, Mara, because you've got beautiful waist length. I'm going to call it mermaid like hair. Okay. It's like blonde and it's dimensional and there's texture. There's some waves, but it's not like a consistent wave everywhere. It's very, like, beachy, just came out of the ocean kind of mermaid vibe. So with that.

[Mara Rosak]

Thank you.

[Carlene Higgins]

Take it away.

[Mara Rosak]

I will take it. I will take it. Oh, my gosh. So post puberty, maybe some of you remember, some of you are. It's in the foreseeable future, but hair changes and hormones right throughout our lives, hair change. But I had very different hair growing up. And all my friends seemed to have this, like, very effortless. They'd get out of the, like, pool parties when we were 13 and just come out with this perfect hair. And I remember being introduced to this very different texture, quite frizzy curls that were just. It was a complete 180 from what I had growing up, and nobody in my family was a hairstylist or knew the first thing about it.

[Jill Dunn]

Yeah.

[Mara Rosak]

But my mom always used to do her own hair, and so I think I saw, like, oh, I could take this into my own hands. She would color her hair, which I don't necessarily recommend, but she would do it herself. And so I thought, okay, I'm gonna master this, because, you know, I'm a teenager, and I want to look like my friends look. And it was. I'm dating myself now, but it's like the 90s, and it was all about this very sleek, straight hair, and it just wasn't what I had, so. And the only thing on the market at the time was frizzies. Right. And so I loaded myself up with some frizzies and worked with my Mom's probably in 1978 blow dryer and got to work.

[Carlene Higgins]

Yeah.

[Mara Rosak]

And it took some time, but I mastered it and then became obsessed.

[Carlene Higgins]

Yeah.

[Jill Dunn]

And then you did all your friends hair. Yeah, I heard, like, for their bar mitzvahs and stuff.

[Mara Rosak]

Bar mitzvah every prom. Yes.

[Jill Dunn]

So what was the secret at the time? It was like, mastering how to work with your texture. Or were you, like, fighting it? Were you, like.

[Mara Rosak]

I was fighting it at the time. I was really focused on trend and looking a certain way, and I think that's probably a huge part of why I'm in the seat today and really talking about working with your texture, because now I work with my texture and have fur. But at the time, in some ways, I'm glad I had this challenge because I think it taught me so much about hair. But now I don't want women to struggle in the way that I did. I really believe in more of the acceptance, and I think we're just living in a different time where we are more educated and also are embracing these natural textures and the differences more than ever.

[Carlene Higgins]

Yeah. Well, we're going to get into all of your best tips for doing that, but just before we do, I want to ask you if you have a prediction for summer 2025. Is there a hairstyle or a cut that you think we're going to see everywhere?

[Mara Rosak]

I do think beach waves really are back. Not that they ever left California, but I saw, like, ghost waves, and I think it's a little bit more even of the, like, natural aesthetic, a little more wild. And so I do think that we're gonna see maybe some More layers and lightness to hair in general. Like the light effortlessness of hair.

[Carlene Higgins]

Okay.

[Mara Rosak]

Yeah. So some shorter layers.

[Jill Dunn]

Okay. What's some characteristics of a current beach wave? If you're. What is a ghost wave?

[Mara Rosak]

A ghost wave. So it's really that airiness. It's really about the imperfection. It's about more of the natural texture. Using products that are light and that are gonna enhance that effortlessness and natural texture versus something that I think we have been seeing, which is a little bit more manufactured, it's a little bit more perfected. This is more of, like, the messiness of it. And it was different from the big barrels that we also had been seeing. So I can see where we were headed. But I'm gonna go with. It's going to be.

[Carlene Higgins]

Yeah.

[Mara Rosak]

Natural.

[Jill Dunn]

Yeah.

[Carlene Higgins]

Well, your hair is very unique, I will say, just looking at here, because it is different textures. And I think that's the thing that a lot of people don't realize. I have this myself.

[Jill Dunn]

I think everybody does.

[Carlene Higgins]

Right. Like, I have waves at the back.

[Mara Rosak]

Yes.

[Carlene Higgins]

Especially right at the back. But my sides are pretty straight.

[Mara Rosak]

Yes.

[Carlene Higgins]

Then it's like, well, I don't really know how to go with my texture, because what is it like, how do I make it all match? But yours is like you're rocking your texture wherever it is, and it's very cool. It's like a different way of dimensional.

[Mara Rosak]

Right. You know, I agree, and I like that. And it took me a long time to really accept that.

[Jill Dunn]

Right.

[Mara Rosak]

Because it is different. But I do think that there are some things you can do to have it look a little bit more uniform or, like, texturize the front to have it match the back a little bit more, but without having to work.

[Carlene Higgins]

Make it all match exactly, exactly, exactly. Okay. This is so cool. I can't wait to get into this.

[Jill Dunn]

What I love about your products and many of her styling products in Rose are, like, kind of geared toward air drying. And I think that that's very unique and very different from the frizz ease days where it was all about, like, put it all down, lay it all down, add the heat, and you're locking it in. I noticed this is, like, a trending category. We're seeing more products for air drying. So how do you personally use them? And why do you think this is like, having a moment? Air dry product, textures.

[Mara Rosak]

Yeah. I think we all live such busy lives.

[Jill Dunn]

Yeah.

[Mara Rosak]

And I think more and more. Right. Even as we age, it's like, you're going to tell me that I need to spend an hour on my hair. I'm sorry, I don't have that time. But I've also seen how really good products really transform people's hair, and it makes it so much easier. And I don't think that's obvious. Right. I think hair has been a confusing category. I think we've been marketed to in very specific ways. That really hasn't changed in life since, you know, our grandparents, great grandparents era. Like, there's been, you know, little innovation in terms of how we're spoken to. And I've really wanted to flip that on its head one, because I think hairdressers in general have a very different, very unique perspective.

[Jill Dunn]

Yeah.

[Mara Rosak]

And it's that products, when they're really good, should work across multiple textures. People don't really know what type of hair they necessarily have. Sort of similar to skin. You're like, it's combination. Sometimes they break out, but sometimes it's oily. And if I'm traveling, I'm dry. And so I think it's similar to hair. But we all know where we want to go. We all know the results we're looking for.

[Jill Dunn]

Right.

[Mara Rosak]

And so I'm more formulating products that work across the board, across multiple textures to get the results. And we talk a lot about results with Rose.

[Carlene Higgins]

Right.

[Mara Rosak]

And so going back to air dry, I think when you have good products that really work, you should be able to wear your texture and air dry your hair. But that looks different for different people.

[Jill Dunn]

Yeah.

[Mara Rosak]

And so smoothing products are the products I go to because I need to define. I need to defriz. But someone else might want to enhance. Still have definition, but they need to enhance to get the air dry that they want. And so those are two different types of products.

[Jill Dunn]

Yeah.

[Mara Rosak]

Both we have at Rose.

[Carlene Higgins]

Yeah.

[Jill Dunn]

What's the one that you love to use on your hair?

[Carlene Higgins]

And what is yours? Like two. A curl. Like, how would you describe. Do you know?

[Mara Rosak]

Yeah. You know, it's funny. It's like, I think that came into the conversation later. I've been doing hair for 22 years, and I think it's a real helpful, educational tool. But, yeah, we're all. Texture is texture, and we're all on this spectrum. Right. From, you know, very fine straight to very, very coarse. Thicker textures on this spectrum, I would say I fall somewhere probably in the middle. I'm obviously not the curliest, but by no means the straightest. Yeah, correct for me. I have a. I have a lot of hair, but it can get very frizzy, very dry. I also Bleach it. Right. There's all these things that are just adding to the. The coarseness. Right. And so for me, the milk hair serum, which probably is our most. It's our bestseller and it's the most versatile product that really every single hair type can use. Okay. Every single hair type.

[Carlene Higgins]

And I rarely hear that.

[Mara Rosak]

And I mean that it is so lightweight. It has hyaluronic acid in it. I actually make it in Italy at a skincare lab. They predominantly make skincare because we all need hydration for the most part with our hair too. And it's not something that's as educated. Right. I think we think moisture will wear hair down, but it doesn't have to. But we all really need it, right? I mean, our hair is dead and we do all this stuff to it between heat and color. And so you need a lightweight hydration daily and you don't have to wash your hair, but you can just put this on like you would a daily moisturizer before your hair. And that product won't weigh fine hair down, but it actually does add some nice de frizzing and smoothing and definition for the curliest of coarse hair as well. So that's the product I'm using predominantly.

[Carlene Higgins]

On damp hair, on dry hair.

[Mara Rosak]

Both. Both. So I use it out of the shower. I use it out of the shower as a detangler. That's what I do before I do anything. And then I use it during the drying process and definitely more when my hair is dry.

[Carlene Higgins]

Okay.

[Mara Rosak]

Yeah. And then as a stylist, I actually put it in before I go to cut someone's hair because it really helps with that combability for my pros listening. It's a beautiful, like cutting lotion. And then it's already in your hair before you go to style it. And it also offers heat protection up to 450 degrees. So if you're a flat ironing gal, you know, it's great for a great prep and then a great finisher.

[Carlene Higgins]

Now, are there any other secrets to air drying your hair the right way?

[Mara Rosak]

Yes, I would say so. I think key is how it starts in the shower. You really want to make sure that you're removing buildup thoroughly and using a hydrating cleanser. Sorry, cleanser and conditioner. So I think that's really important. And then when you get out of the shower, prepping with some kind of a detangler and then brush your hair when it's very wet and that's it. I don't want you to really brush it or comb it again. You want to try and keep the integrity of the natural texture, whatever that is, as much as possible. And when you comb it, once it starts to dry, you can see you're starting to frizz it up. Actually, it's starting to, like, it's gonna change the integrity of that natural texture, and then it's all about. Which we can get to. But it's really about the towel you're using to use. Yeah.

[Jill Dunn]

I was gonna ask you that.

[Mara Rosak]

You don't want too much weight on your hair. You just don't want anything pulling it down. It's really about enhancing what is naturally there. So the towel. We have a fun collab coming out.

[Jill Dunn]

Ooh.

[Mara Rosak]

It's kind of a funny story, but I am a big fan of this beautiful casual wear brand. They're very popular here in California. Here, it's called the Great.

[Jill Dunn]

Oh, yeah.

[Carlene Higgins]

Oh, yeah. Love the Great.

[Mara Rosak]

Love the Great. Love. Emily and Merit, the founders. I've known them because they were fashion stylists, and we used to be on set together. Yeah. And then they developed current Elliott jeans, which were the best. And then they now have the great. And they make the best, the greatest sweatshirts.

[Carlene Higgins]

Yeah.

[Mara Rosak]

So I am in the shower, and I had my great sweatshirt on, but I got out of the shower and completely forgot I had no towel in the bathroom.

[Carlene Higgins]

And what happens when you have a newborn baby?

[Mara Rosak]

You're like, oops, no towel, no towel, no towel. But I have a sweatshirt.

[Carlene Higgins]

Yeah.

[Mara Rosak]

And it's that very thin material. If you know the great. You know this. It's very thin, very high quality. And so I just grab my towel and I dry off my body, like, the tiniest bit and throw my hair up, because I don't want my hair now sopping.

[Jill Dunn]

Right.

[Mara Rosak]

As you mentioned, it's very long, getting the whole floor wet and whatever. So I throw my hair up in this sweats sweatshirt.

[Jill Dunn]

Yes.

[Mara Rosak]

And then when I go to take my hair out of the sweatshirt, my hair is perfect. Like, it's got the texture in the front, has now seemingly developed more of what it is in the back. Right. Like this soft kind of bend.

[Carlene Higgins]

Right.

[Mara Rosak]

And all I needed to do was scrunch my product into the hair and go. And I didn't touch it again. And I had the best hair day. And so I immediately reached out to the gals.

[Carlene Higgins]

Yeah.

[Mara Rosak]

And I was like, have you guys. Would you do this?

[Jill Dunn]

Yeah.

[Mara Rosak]

Could we do a rose? The great hair towel. And so we worked to develop the perfect size, just every single detail. And it Actually looks like a sweatshirt. It has the ribbing. It has.

[Carlene Higgins]

Oh, that's so cute.

[Mara Rosak]

You know the band in the back that you, you know, wrap the twist part into, and it's just the perf. Perfect.

[Carlene Higgins]

And then more, it's giving, like, sock buns energy. You know what I mean?

[Mara Rosak]

Yes. And most importantly, it's the perfect weight for your hair.

[Jill Dunn]

So is it terry material or what kind of material exactly?

[Mara Rosak]

Like their sweatshirts, where it's that smooth cotton. 100 cotton. Smooth cotton on the. On the front, and then the terry.

[Jill Dunn]

Like a French terry?

[Mara Rosak]

Like the French terry on the inside.

[Jill Dunn]

That sounds great.

[Mara Rosak]

It's so great.

[Jill Dunn]

As it were. Great.

[Carlene Higgins]

I love a good color.

[Jill Dunn]

As you were talking about that, all I was thinking about was when Forrest Gump, like, uses the T shirt shirt, and then he accidentally creates the happy face. Yeah.

[Mara Rosak]

Oh, my God. I need to go back and watch that immediately.

[Jill Dunn]

The mother of all invention, right? Necessity.

[Mara Rosak]

You never know when these genius moments hit.

[Carlene Higgins]

Amazing.

[Mara Rosak]

Yeah.

[Carlene Higgins]

Okay, I want to go back before. Before we move on and just finish this conversation about this newer take on a beach wave where you might have uneven texture. But you had mentioned how. Well, you don't just leave it, though. You're gonna add some cohesiveness. You might have straighter sides and a wavy back, but you're not using, like, a curling iron all over. So what do you do? Let's just get that.

[Mara Rosak]

Yes. So it's pretty simple. I'm a big fan of braids.

[Carlene Higgins]

Okay.

[Mara Rosak]

I think it's just key in terms of when you go to braid your hair, so you don't want it to be sopping, sopping wet. And then when you take out the braids, you don't want your hair to be thoroughly dried either.

[Carlene Higgins]

Okay.

[Mara Rosak]

Because you want it to still be dry enough to where it has some hold. Right. So you put your products in before you go to braid, and this is after you've towel dried. You're not sopping wet. The perfect time you add those braids, you could do one on each side or two. And maybe it's that you need to do the front pieces. Right. In our case, where we have a little bit more of the straighter in the front, you're kind of braiding the front pieces and incorporating some of that top back into that braid. Right. So maybe you're thinking about it, like, from the tips of your eyebrows, if you're kind of going in a horizontal direction. This sounds complicated, but follow me here. Braid that section so you're almost creating, like, a half Half braid on the top and then do the same with underneath. Right. And then remove the braids when they're probably about 80% to 90% dry, just a little bit damp.

[Carlene Higgins]

Go do all your household chores.

[Mara Rosak]

That's right. Yeah, that's exactly right. And then you can take your milk care serum. I even have some clients that will put, you know, I love those Mr. Spray bottles. You can get these on anywhere. Beauty supplies, Amazon, and putting water and even like a little bit of the milk hair serum or our foundation mask and shaking it up and using that to also kind of like re. Dampen something.

[Carlene Higgins]

Okay.

[Mara Rosak]

So outside of braids, I have another wreck which is a little bit hard too, if you're not watching me to sort of describe. But it's essentially taking that front section, everything in front of the ear, and wrapping it around the rest of the hair. Pigtails.

[Jill Dunn]

Right. So you're basically using your hair as if it was a heatless roller. The rest of your hair.

[Mara Rosak]

That's exactly right. Because really you want that bend right in front of the face, especially if you have some texture throughout. And really that will help. And then let it dry like that. You're going to pin the ends and you literally have this swirl of that front section over the rest of that, you know, half hair pigtail.

[Jill Dunn]

Yeah.

[Mara Rosak]

And that really helps set the hair in a beautiful shape. And so it is. It takes a little bit of manipulation, but with the right products and the right kind of timing in terms of wet to dry, it helps so much.

[Carlene Higgins]

Yeah, no, that's true. The hairstylists always have those great clips, and you'll see models backstage. And I just. I never think to do that, but it's the tiniest, like, way of just creating, like, a bit of bend around your hairline or something like that that you can do while you're just doing other things.

[Mara Rosak]

They're the best.

[Carlene Higgins]

Yeah.

[Mara Rosak]

And I have my favorites. Favorites. Favorites ever. They're Japanese, of course, and they're these. I love the flat clips, but then I also love these little tiny, very lightweight silver clips that sort of have it. They're tiny and they have a little point. And those are great for, like, very specific directional or pin curl anything. They're like my hairdresser essential. But they're great. People at home do.

[Carlene Higgins]

Yeah.

[Jill Dunn]

Do you know the name of them?

[Mara Rosak]

You know, I thought they were YS Park. I have to. I'll send it to you.

[Jill Dunn]

Okay.

[Mara Rosak]

But they're amazing. And I actually get them at this place called Shear World, and they have their own Website.

[Jill Dunn]

Oh, Online.

[Carlene Higgins]

Okay. Do you use those on Emma Stone with her little.

[Mara Rosak]

Yes.

[Carlene Higgins]

Curly cues?

[Mara Rosak]

Sure do.

[Carlene Higgins]

On her pixie?

[Mara Rosak]

Sure do.

[Carlene Higgins]

I feel like that would be. Yeah.

[Mara Rosak]

Yep. Use them for that finger weave look that we did at the Oscars.

[Carlene Higgins]

Okay.

[Jill Dunn]

Incredible.

[Mara Rosak]

Yeah. Those are my go to. Yep. And then, and then I would say our air thickening spray, which is this product. I think people are like, how do I use this? And what's it really for? Hairdressers that I know that are using rose, we call them our pros. They are using air thickening spray. A lot of times if your hair is now in that braid and you want to add a little bit of hold to that when you go to take it out.

[Carlene Higgins]

Yeah.

[Mara Rosak]

And then post to scrunch it up and break it apart. Our ear thickening spray is so great for that because it has a very lightweight grip. It's not as like intense and dry as like a salt spray. Right. It's just such a nice airy product, which is why it's called air thickening spray. And you can spray that in throughout to really like break up those waves and give it some hold.

[Carlene Higgins]

Okay. Awesome.

[Jill Dunn]

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[Mara Rosak]

Yes.

[Jill Dunn]

What is your favorite hot tool of the moment?

[Mara Rosak]

My favorite hot tool of the moment. I. I love ghd curling irons. I also love t3 curling iron.

[Jill Dunn]

Yeah.

[Mara Rosak]

I just think they give. They get really nice and hot, but you can control the level. And sometimes too hot actually does the opposite effect. It'll just make your hair fall flat. How come certain textures just can't. They don't hold. And it's almost like the overheated. When you go to pull out the curl, it's just like it's too hot. It almost added a weight to it.

[Jill Dunn]

It falls. Yeah.

[Mara Rosak]

Yes. So I usually like to keep. If it's a tool that has dial for heat, I'll usually do it somewhere on the middle to high.

[Jill Dunn]

Yeah.

[Mara Rosak]

But not as high as they go.

[Jill Dunn]

Okay.

[Mara Rosak]

Often.

[Jill Dunn]

Often. Okay.

[Mara Rosak]

But GHD is regulated and they just have the one setting and they're so good and I love them. Yeah. So big, big fan.

[Jill Dunn]

Big fan. What's the modern way to like do the wave with the curling iron?

[Mara Rosak]

Yeah.

[Jill Dunn]

Tell me.

[Mara Rosak]

Yeah, I.

[Jill Dunn]

You can demo.

[Mara Rosak]

Yeah. I usually never use the, the actual clamp part. I like to keep it open and so I'll keep it open that whole time. Or back in the day. I don't think I do it anymore. But I would just like take them off my.

[Jill Dunn]

Oh, really?

[Mara Rosak]

Yes. Because I'm like, I just want the barrel part. But you can totally hold it open. And I get my elbow up. So the elbow is pointing to the sky. And I have the, the curling iron angled down vertically.

[Jill Dunn]

Yeah.

[Mara Rosak]

And I just like to wrap the hair around it, let it twist around it and. And not right on top of each other. Right. You kind of want the hair coming down the whole barrel. And then I just hold the ends. I hold the ends out and the ends out, you know, is kind of the old trick, but to get that beach wave.

[Carlene Higgins]

Yeah.

[Jill Dunn]

And what about the dismount? How do you take the hair off the thing?

[Mara Rosak]

Oh, the Hair off.

[Jill Dunn]

Yeah. Are you, are you just letting it fall out? What are you doing?

[Mara Rosak]

I am, yes. Or pulling Because I have the ends grip.

[Jill Dunn]

Yeah.

[Mara Rosak]

And then I just pull it straight off.

[Jill Dunn]

I always find though, because I do have long hair, it doesn't fit like the whole barrel.

[Carlene Higgins]

So extra long.

[Jill Dunn]

Now you do end up up kind of putting the hair on top of the hair sometimes.

[Mara Rosak]

That's fine.

[Jill Dunn]

Yeah.

[Carlene Higgins]

Came out with extra long, didn't they?

[Jill Dunn]

I don't know.

[Carlene Higgins]

I'm pretty sure they came out with an extra long.

[Mara Rosak]

I feel like I've seen some. Good question. Yeah, I don't think I have it in my kit though. I think also to give a little. I. I do like they have an.

[Carlene Higgins]

Extra long barrel justified. It's the T3 single pass extra long.

[Mara Rosak]

Oh, I love T3.

[Carlene Higgins]

Now what about curly haired girls? You know, they're down Reddit rabbit holes. They're like, what the heck are the curly haired girl to manage their summer hair. So let's get it from the pro.

[Mara Rosak]

Yes, you really again, curly hair. And the curlier your hair is, the more hydration it needs. And see, really products are so key here. You want to use heavier masks actually in the summertime.

[Jill Dunn]

Okay.

[Mara Rosak]

And you want to use maybe thicker oils. You want products that are really going to be hydrating for you because that's going to help so much with frizz. It's going to help so much with defining your curls. Curls drink it up. That's what they want. And then you can use a product that has like a thicker hold. You know, I love curl creams that have a bit of hold, but again, they're going to be very moisturizing and hydrating, which is again great for frizz, especially if you're in humid climates or you're going swimming. And the salt water, which is really drying, really want to make sure that you're protecting it and hydrating your hair.

[Jill Dunn]

What are your tips and tricks for curly girls? Like, talk to me about how you're layering as a pro. These oils cream like because it can get to be a mess.

[Mara Rosak]

Yes, you're so right.

[Jill Dunn]

And like the just the cocktailing, I feel like that's the artist's eye. Like you, you just know it. Give us the pro what you actually are doing on curly hair.

[Mara Rosak]

So I like to seal everything with like, you don't want to put too thick of an oil on first. Right. You kind of want to lock that in. And so I usually will use like our Santa Lucia first. It's very, very Lightweight. It is an oil, but it's a protective oil, but it's very light. So again, works across multiple textures. But if we're specifically talking about curls, it's great for your hair when it's wet. And then you add your milk hair serum on top.

[Jill Dunn]

Okay.

[Mara Rosak]

And then I would.

[Jill Dunn]

So how much oil?

[Mara Rosak]

Okay. It depends, I would say, on how much hair you have. But again, curls absorb it. Curls can take it. So I use at least two pumps, and I'll probably, on my hair, even go up to four.

[Jill Dunn]

Wow.

[Mara Rosak]

Because my hair just soaks it up. And then. Same with milk hair serum. And I actually can even combine the two in my hands. They mix beautifully together. So I'd say the curlier your hair is, the drier it is, the more you could kind of cocktail and use those two products in combo. They blend beautifully together, and the oil will add even a little bit more of that shine and definition to the milk. That's really light, but it's creamy, so it's giving a little bit of that. I don't want to say weight, because it is very weightless, but you can almost imagine, right. Like, mixing a moisturizer with a little bit of, like, an oil for your skin. It just adds more of that. Of that hydration. Yeah, right.

[Carlene Higgins]

Yeah.

[Mara Rosak]

So I do those in combination, and then when the hair is dry, I'll add the willow glen on top to kind of like. Like, seal it all in.

[Carlene Higgins]

Okay.

[Mara Rosak]

And that's before I go into, you know, the beach.

[Jill Dunn]

Okay. I love the vibe of so many of Emma Stone's looks that you do, and her current look is so good. It's like this pixie. Right. That she's rocking now a lot. A lot of people may not go for the full Pixie cut, but you kind of also. She had it, like, with, like, little bangs as well. So maybe you could, like, inspire us, like, managing bangs in the summer. Because I feel like that's a whole other. It's a whole other consideration in the summertime.

[Mara Rosak]

Yeah, absolutely. If you're someone who's willing or has thought about chopping her hair, maybe you have a bob. Yeah. And you're like, maybe I should go for it. I understand. It is so bold, and I don't have the guts to do it, but I think I'm so proud of her for doing it, and it's so gorgeous, and I actually do think that it inspired some Pixies, which is very cool because I think it's. It's such a liberating experience, and I actually Think.

[Jill Dunn]

I think that is very true. I think when you see a celebrity make a big, bold swing like that, people are taking that to their stylist.

[Mara Rosak]

I think so too. I got a lot of inbound, but I think. And then in terms of bangs, I mean, I love bangs. I love those kind of more 70s, like Jane Birkin bangs. I'm not the biggest fan. I just think they're harder to pull off. I'm sure they'll come back around a la Devil Wears Prada. Right. But the really heavy blunt bang, I just think they can be hard and heavy. I also love seeing some eyebrow. I love eyebrows. I think they make a face a lot of the time. And so I tend to like to do a longer bang that's maybe swinging. And then you can bring some sort of shorter pieces down in the center. Again, everything sort of in between the two arches of the eyebrows. I don't ever want to cut a bang that's too wide. That's where you get into some trouble.

[Carlene Higgins]

Right.

[Mara Rosak]

Because then you're having to grow out the sides. I think they're really beautiful and sexy when it's. Everything short is essentially in between the arches of the eyebrow and then it can like wing out from there, but keeping the shortest pieces in between the eyebrows and then ever so slightly longer as you get to those sort of arches.

[Jill Dunn]

Do you have a tip for keeping them from being greasy? Like, what's your go to for?

[Mara Rosak]

Yeah, I think dry shampoo is obviously going to be your best friend. Great question. I love the, like, old school chlorine one.

[Jill Dunn]

We need to know about your best clean girl aesthetic wet bun look. You did this for Zoe Saldana at the SAG Awards, and it was absolutely stunning. How did you get it so perfect? Tell us in. Tell us all your. Your secrets.

[Carlene Higgins]

And I think especially for. For as we're talking about more textured hair because I feel like we've gotten that lesson on how to do it and stick. But yeah, highly textured hair.

[Mara Rosak]

Yeah. Again, I use oils. That's why I think my first products ever made were oil. I'm just a big fan of oils for texture. And so the Willow Glenn oil, I like to use like a thicker oil for any wet look on any type of hair because the oil stays wet looking versus, like gels that can dry more matte. And then they're also very hard and dry a little bit stiff. And so then you can't work them into something. And so I use oils and I used our Willow Glenn treatment oil to get that wet Looking shine.

[Jill Dunn]

What do you do? You start in the back. Where do you start?

[Mara Rosak]

Yeah, so you want to straighten the hair first, then I use oils for that. And then I will pull it all back and use like a style cream to like really slick it back first along with then an oil on top.

[Jill Dunn]

Yeah. So you gotta make sure you're committing to this look.

[Mara Rosak]

You're committing before. Oh, yeah.

[Jill Dunn]

Have you ever had it where someone wants to go for a wet, slick back look and then they're like, actually.

[Mara Rosak]

No, because I prepped that. I'm like, yeah, no, I like instantly.

[Jill Dunn]

There's no coming back. Yes.

[Mara Rosak]

I'm like instantly instill the fear of God into the style. I'm like, do not change your mind here. We're ready. And even on an editorial shoot, I'm like, let's save that wet look for last because there is no going back unless I want to shampoo this product out. If you're gonna put an oil on dry hair, expect it to be wet looking. And so you load it up to get that wet look.

[Jill Dunn]

Yeah. Like triple the amount of product. Like how much you're just going for it.

[Mara Rosak]

You're going for it.

[Jill Dunn]

Yeah.

[Mara Rosak]

Okay. You can start with less. I always recommend that and add more as you go. But. Oh yeah.

[Jill Dunn]

What. And what do you use to really smooth for a textured type of hair afterwards? Like, do you have a special brush comb like to really refine.

[Mara Rosak]

Yeah.

[Jill Dunn]

The look?

[Mara Rosak]

What's your fav. I mean, I really love using my fingertips. I think I just generally like to touch hair. And so I'll either spray product on my fingertip or I'll use. We just came out with this year, an evergreen style cream.

[Jill Dunn]

Okay.

[Mara Rosak]

It's an amazing. It's the product that I've really been using on like Emma's pixie, any men's cut, any short haired style. And. And then especially on taming flyaways.

[Jill Dunn]

Okay.

[Mara Rosak]

And so I'll just put even a little dab of that on my fingertip and just run it over the top of the hair over the sides to really tame the flyaways. And then you can spray a hairspray to finish it for a red carpet.

[Jill Dunn]

Okay.

[Carlene Higgins]

You mentioned that you're traveling around all the time. Do you ever need to pick up something from the drugstore? And what would it be for hair?

[Mara Rosak]

Oh my gosh, that's a great one. I mean, I love drugstore Elnet. Hairspray is a, is a classic. I don't like again the, the aerosol aspect of the. Butanes and whatnot. But I think to get the job done, I really do hold the test of time. It holds the test of time.

[Carlene Higgins]

Yeah.

[Mara Rosak]

Yeah.

[Carlene Higgins]

Now with Rose, your own line, I have to tell you, I tried the shampoo and conditioner, and it was so unique, and I didn't expect that. And the reason is because I've tried. We've been doing this for 20 years, and I've tried a lot of. Of product lines, and especially with the shampoo and conditioner, it's really hard to have a different experience when you're in the shower. But I thought. So I was using. Do you just have the one shampoo and conditioner?

[Mara Rosak]

Yes.

[Carlene Higgins]

Yeah. What's it called?

[Mara Rosak]

Foundation.

[Carlene Higgins]

Foundation, yes. And it is a very unique texture. It kind of feels, if I'm remembering this correctly, it's almost like a. Like a jelly serum oil or something. But it's like. Like it does lather up, and it's just. It feels different. It feels like a kind of skincare experience or something. And I loved the result. Like, I really felt like it was so clean, but I also had, like, more volume but a softness as well. Like, really, I'm just speaking instead of you here. But what. What makes it so unique?

[Mara Rosak]

You nailed it. I couldn't have said it better. And thank you. I'm so excited and I'm so happy.

[Carlene Higgins]

I really love it.

[Mara Rosak]

Experience. Because obviously you've tried everything.

[Carlene Higgins]

Yeah. And I use the milk serum, too, so together, it was great. But I did. I was like, oh, this is a different shampoo and conditioner experience.

[Mara Rosak]

Yes. I. The. The gel that you speak to. I really wanted to have more of that gel. Like, and it's not like a, you know, I guess, like how you would imagine. Like, it doesn't feel gelatin. Like.

[Carlene Higgins]

I know that's cream. Yeah.

[Mara Rosak]

Yeah, right? Not creamy. I really wanted that because I don't want. And I don't think any shampoo should ever leave any residual anything on your hair. We all want. And the reason why we only have one shampoo and conditioner. Maybe I'll introduce one other one down the road, but for the most part, we are really all across the board looking for the same thing. Out of a shampoo and conditioner, you want it to thoroughly cleanse but not strip your hair. Remove all the buildup. Buildup is, I would say, a key thing that I see on clients hair. And when they're struggling with their hair, it's often like, okay, I'm gonna take you and wash your hair like, four times. At the back bar.

[Carlene Higgins]

Yeah.

[Mara Rosak]

And once I give your trim up and style your hair, it's gonna be like a new head of hair, because that weight at the root, people don't even really realize. And then you get it more wet and then it just gets kind of like thicker and stickier and heavier at the root and then dry ends, It's a big issue. And I think it's hard for people to identify that that's even what's going on. But you. So every time you go to wash your hair, I want it to be thoroughly removed, removing any buildup. And that is what our foundation shampoo does. But to your point, it leaves the hair also feeling quite hydrated because you don't then want to go in with a conditioner that then has to like redo all this work that, you know, with a heavy conditioner that your shampoo just stripped out. So you want them to work synergistically. And so we use coconut based surfactants for our shampoo and peptides and ceramides, which we have in both the shampoo and conditioner. And then a proprietary complex that's a blend of botanicals that we have in our milk shampoo conditioner and our mask. It's not in every product, but it is in those that really helps to preserve your color and protect your hair and hydrate it. And then our conditioner is nice. I would say it's a little bit more. It's on the thicker side, but it's not. Not heavy.

[Carlene Higgins]

Yeah.

[Mara Rosak]

It has no silicone and so it's actually working to hydrate, but it rinses out beautifully and leaves your hair really feeling. And again, I have more texture, as do you. And in terms of like the coarseness or frizz and it really works there. I haven't met a person that it hasn't worked for and that was really my goal because I don't. I think again, in this climate where people are buying less but more quality, I think that. But I didn't want it to be confusing. And it's like you really just. The whole family can use this one shampoo and conditioner and it really works. Yeah.

[Jill Dunn]

I tried the serum, the milky.

[Mara Rosak]

Well, we have them all here for you.

[Jill Dunn]

Yeah, there's minis coming out now. So you. I don't know if we said it on the mic, but you have a newborn.

[Mara Rosak]

Yeah.

[Jill Dunn]

How old?

[Mara Rosak]

Three months.

[Jill Dunn]

Three months in a week?

[Mara Rosak]

Yeah.

[Jill Dunn]

Incredible. So what are you doing for the summer of Mara's for your family? What are you looking forward to? The most this summer.

[Mara Rosak]

Yes. Well, I do have some more fun travel, but predominantly for work.

[Jill Dunn]

Okay.

[Mara Rosak]

This summer. So we have. Which would have just done, you know, Cannes Film Festival and then other film festivals coming up. Venice film festivals coming up. So lots of travel for. For work. And I'll probably schlep that baby around a bit and then hopefully some family time and travel as well. Although when I'm home, I just. Just kind of love to be home.

[Jill Dunn]

But are you. Are you in the salon still as well?

[Mara Rosak]

Right. So I have my salon, which is just down the street from where we are right now. It's been there 10 years, which is crazy. 10 years. This year I haven't been going as often, although I love to cut hair. I would say between business, baby travel, for celebrity work, it's challenging to fit in. And so I sent a lot of my clients to other stylists that are at our salon.

[Carlene Higgins]

Got it.

[Mara Rosak]

I've had assistants who have been on the floor now for years, you know, old assistants. And I love to also support their careers and make sure that people feel. And then my clients feel safe with them because they've known them too, so. But I do plan to when the baby gets a little bit older and I have a little more time to go back and spend a little bit more time because I just. I love cutting hair.

[Jill Dunn]

So fun.

[Mara Rosak]

I love it.

[Jill Dunn]

Yeah. That's great. Well, we really appreciate your time. Thank you so much. It was great to meet you and can't wait to see what you're turning over. Met Gala film festivals. Thank you. And we need that hair towel. No pressure, but I do need it.

[Mara Rosak]

It's. It's coming for you.

[Jill Dunn]

Cannot wait so much.

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