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John Stonestreet
Welcome to Breakpoint, a daily look at an ever changing culture through the lens of unchanging truth. For the Colson Center, I'm John Stonestreet. Recently I spoke with author and theologian Dr. Carl Trueman about his new book, the Desecration of How the Rejection of God Degrades Our Humanity. Both in the interview and in the book, Dr. Truman clarified that though the recent pushback on dehumanizing ideologies such as transgenderism is a welcome development, the degradation of humanity will inevitably continue. Here's Dr. Truman.
Dr. Carl Trueman
I rejoice in the setbacks that the trans lobby has faced. I'm not willing to do a lap of victory yet because I think they're well funded and highly organized. We need to keep up the pressure. But what's interesting, of course, is how this came about. And I think if you look at the American situation, you have to say Elon Musk plays a very significant role in this, partly or maybe largely because his own family has been tragically affected by the trans issue. And praise God that Elon Musk was able to influence the current administration in, I think, a healthy, sane direction on the issue of gender. But when you take a step back and look at Elon Musk, I'd say on that issue, he's right. But actually, he's still part of the larger problem, because if we don't treat transgenderism in isolation, but see it as part of the larger transhumanist project, this idea of smashing through human limits, then Elon Musk is. He's on the forefront of that. So one of the things I've tried to say to students this year is praise God for Elon Musk on this issue. That's great. But realize that transgenderism is more connected philosophically to transhumanism than it is to the L, the G, and the B. That's the political alliance. The philosophical issue is transhumanism, and transhumanism really involves the abolition of man.
John Stonestreet
In other words, the fantasies of transhumanism are birthed from the very same ideological lies as was transgenderism. Of course, our technologies carry incredible potential to help us, but they also threaten to rewrite for us what it means to be human. Just as the printing press changed the way that people learn and the pill altered the way people love, AI has the power to significantly enhance our self desecration. The potential. And the potential danger is hard to make sense of. As Dr. Truman continued, Our ability to
Dr. Carl Trueman
do things technologically far outstrips our ability to imagine the moral consequences of what we are doing to sort of quote Stalin, you know, one death is a tragedy. A million deaths is a statistic. We can imagine a pistol shooting somebody, and that's tragic. It's hard to imagine a nuclear bomb wiping out a million people. The moral effect of that is minimal on us because we don't have the imagination for it. And I think what we see with artificial intelligence is this running away of technology without any moral framework setting up the limits or giving it even a goal. There's no teleology to it. We do it because we can. When you think of the rhetoric surrounding artificial intelligence, it's all about replacing human beings. We're going to be replaced by something we have made, but which is superior to us. So there is this strange thing that our Promethean talents lead us to being amoebas in the grand scheme of things.
John Stonestreet
According to Carl Truman, transgression and desecration are at the very heart of what has created all of our cultural crises. All of this is more than an attempt to just erase the image of God. It is, in reality, an attempt in both conscious and unconscious ways, to mock the God of the image. And so, predictably, having lost touch with God, we've lost touch with who we are. You can hear my full conversation with Dr. Carl Trueman on the Breakpoint podcast and also receive a copy of his tremendous book, the Desecration of How the Rejection of God Degrades Our Humanity this month by Making a gift of any amount to the Colson Center. Go to colsoncenter.org may to learn more and to request your copy of the book. Again, that's colsoncenter.org may for the Colson Center. I'm John Stonestreet with Breakpoint. If you're a fan of Breakpoint, leave us a review wherever you download your podcast. And you can always find more resources like this@breakpoint.org
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Episode: Transgenderism, Transhumanism, and Transgression
Host: John Stonestreet (Colson Center)
Guest: Dr. Carl Trueman
Date: May 1, 2026
In this episode, John Stonestreet explores the philosophical and cultural connections between transgender ideology, transhumanism, and societal trends toward the "degradation of humanity." Joined by theologian Dr. Carl Trueman, the conversation delves into how modern attempts to transcend human limitations—be they gender, biological, or existential—are rooted in a deeper rejection of God and the image of humanity as divinely created. The discussion warns of the dangers posed by technological advancement disconnected from moral foundations and reflect on what it truly means to retain our humanity in an age of rapid change.
Recent Pushback: John Stonestreet highlights increasing resistance to the influence of the transgender movement and welcomes greater societal awareness of its dehumanizing effects.
Dr. Trueman's Perspective:
"I'm not willing to do a lap of victory yet because I think they're well funded and highly organized. We need to keep up the pressure."
— Dr. Carl Trueman [00:34]
Elon Musk’s Influence: Dr. Trueman notes Musk's role in shifting public discourse on gender, prompted, in part, by personal experience within his own family.
"Praise God that Elon Musk was able to influence the current administration in, I think, a healthy, sane direction on the issue of gender."
— Dr. Carl Trueman [01:03]
A Larger Contradiction: While commending Musk’s stance on transgenderism, Trueman points out Musk’s leadership in the broader transhumanist movement—which similarly seeks to overthrow human limits.
"On that issue, he's right. But actually, he's still part of the larger problem, because...if we see [transgenderism] as part of the larger transhumanist project, this idea of smashing through human limits, then Elon Musk is...on the forefront of that."
— Dr. Carl Trueman [01:21]
Beyond Political Alliances: Dr. Trueman asserts that, while transgenderism has political ties to LGB movements, its philosophical roots are much more aligned with transhumanism—the pursuit of erasing human boundaries through technology and ideology.
"Transgenderism is more connected philosophically to transhumanism than it is to the L, the G, and the B. That's the political alliance. The philosophical issue is transhumanism, and transhumanism really involves the abolition of man."
— Dr. Carl Trueman [01:51]
Potential and Peril: Stonestreet and Trueman highlight how technological advances such as AI could radically reshape what it means to be human—sometimes in deeply troubling ways.
"Technologies carry incredible potential to help us, but they also threaten to rewrite for us what it means to be human."
— John Stonestreet [02:04]
Imagination vs. Consequence: Dr. Trueman warns that humanity’s capacity to create new technologies vastly exceeds our moral or imaginative capacity to foresee their consequences.
"Our ability to do things technologically far outstrips our ability to imagine the moral consequences of what we are doing..."
— Dr. Carl Trueman [02:36]
"When you think of the rhetoric surrounding artificial intelligence, it's all about replacing human beings. We're going to be replaced by something we have made, but which is superior to us."
— Dr. Carl Trueman [03:14]
Desecration and Cultural Crisis: The episode underscores that root cultural crises stem from a loss of the image of God and, fundamentally, an effort to mock rather than merely erase Him.
"All of this is more than an attempt to just erase the image of God. It is, in reality, an attempt in both conscious and unconscious ways, to mock the God of the image. And so, predictably, having lost touch with God, we've lost touch with who we are."
— John Stonestreet [03:42]
Cautious Advocacy:
"I rejoice in the setbacks that the trans lobby has faced. I'm not willing to do a lap of victory yet..."
— Dr. Carl Trueman [00:34]
The Tech-Humanity Disconnect:
"What we see with artificial intelligence is this running away of technology without any moral framework setting up the limits or giving it even a goal. There's no teleology to it. We do it because we can."
— Dr. Carl Trueman [02:54]
On Transgression:
"Transgression and desecration are at the very heart of what has created all of our cultural crises."
— John Stonestreet [03:42]
This episode challenges listeners to look past surface-level debates on gender and identity, instead urging a deeper analysis of the philosophical and theological currents driving attempts to redefine humanity. It warns that true progress and dignity can only be found by recognizing, not rejecting, the image of God.