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Jeffrey
She said, Johnny, the kids didn't come home last night. Along the central Texas plains, teens are dying, suicides that don't make sense. Strange accidents and brutal murders in what seems to be a plot ripped straight out of Breaking Bad. Drugs, alcohol, trafficking of people.
Brooke
There are people out there that absolutely know what happened.
Jeffrey
Listen to Paper Ghosts, the Texas teen murders on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Podcast Host (Various)
Welcome to Decoding Women's Health. I'm Dr. Elizabeth Poynter, Chair of women's health and gynecology at the Atria Health Institute in New York City. I'll be talking to top researchers and clinicians and bringing vital information about midlife women's health directly to you. 100% of women go through menopause. Even if it's natural, why should we suffer through it? Listen to Decoding Women's Health with Dr. Elizabeth Poynter on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Jeffrey
Hi, I'm Danny Shapiro. We were in the car like a rolling stone came on and he said, there's a line in there about your mother. And I said, what? What I would do if I didn't feel like I was being accepted is choose an identity that other people can't have. I knew something had happened to me in the middle of the night, but.
Brooke
I couldn't hold on to what had happened.
Jeffrey
These are just a few of the moving and important stories on my 13th season of family Secrets.
Radhi Devlukya
Listen to Family secrets on the iHeartRadio.
Jeffrey
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Noah
I'm passing the ball to you.
Jeffrey
Let's go. Steph Curry redefined basketball. Now he's rewriting what it means to succeed. Order your copy of the New York Times bestseller Shot ready today@stephencurrybook.com you know.
Podcast Host (Various)
The shade is always shadiest right here. Season six of the podcast Reasonably Shady with Gisele Bryant and Robyn Dixon is here dropping every Monday as two of the founding members of the Real Housewives Potomac. We're giving you all the laughs, drama and reality news you can handle. And you know we don't hold back. So come be reasonable or shady with us each and every Monday, listen to Reasonably Shady from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Brooke
All right, the moment we've been waiting for.
Jeffrey
Breakfast is here.
Brooke
No, the number one. This is my drum roll.
Podcast Host (Various)
Oh.
Brooke
Oh, wow.
Podcast Host (Various)
Number one.
Brooke
Second date of 2025.
Jeffrey
Okay. Is it an obvious one? Should we all know this one? Breakfast is still coming, right?
Podcast Host (Various)
No.
Jeffrey
Okay, let's talk about your second date update. Cuz there is a danger in doing these segments when we have people reach out who are longtime listeners.
Brooke
Oh, yeah.
Jeffrey
And today one guy came on the show and made a bold request before we even dialed the other person.
Noah
Oh, gosh.
Jeffrey
And yes, it did have to do with Brooke. No, no. Was it a f. Fair ask? Absolutely.
Brooke
It was number one.
Jeffrey
Did Brooke take this ask offensively? She sure did.
Brooke
No, I'm still offended.
Jeffrey
Jeff, you'll hear what he wanted from Brooke in your number 1 second date update of the year right now. Second date update. We've got a loyal listener to the show who says he's been tuning into our second dates for years.
Brooke
That's so cool.
Noah
Thank you.
Jeffrey
And one of his worst fears finally came true.
Podcast Host (Various)
Oh, no.
Jeffrey
He had to email us to be in one of his own. His name is Noah. So let's talk to him. Noah, I'm happy you're here, even if you're not. Glad you came to us for help. How are you doing today?
Noah
I'm pretty good. How you guys doing?
Brooke
I mean, it is such a double edged sword, right? Like you want to be part of the show, but then you don't.
Noah
Yeah. Be careful what you wish for, right?
Brooke
Totally. Totally.
Jeffrey
Well, we'll try to make this as seem and gentle on you as possible. Let's start with the girl that you met recently. What's her name?
Noah
April.
Podcast Host (Various)
April. Okay.
Radhi Devlukya
All right.
Brooke
Strong start. You almost forgot it. I appreciate that.
Noah
Nah, I just nervous on the air. It's weird, but.
Brooke
No, you're good. You're good, man.
Jeffrey
You're doing great. So far our ratings have never been higher, so thank you. 30 seconds in, Jeff. I'm feeling good about it already, so let's keep going. How did you meet April?
Noah
We met off an app. Dating app.
Jeffrey
Oh, Our ratings just plummeted. You're gonna need to be more fun. More fun?
Brooke
We had that moment.
Jeffrey
We have a live ratings meter. I'm kidding.
Brooke
Wait, how did you strike up conversation with her?
Noah
The cool thing about apps, if you do them right, you have little bios and you can get a little nuggets from there. And I was able to kind of tap into a Couple things I saw, and it was fun, but she was funny. You know, she doesn't take things too seriously and has a. That kind of fun perspective on life, and that's kind of how I roll. It's. I'd like to think that's me.
Brooke
Oh, that's interesting. I mean, that's a cool thing. Like, you guys match up. Your vibes are similar, right.
Noah
When you're using the apps. That's how they work. Right?
Jeffrey
So, yeah, that's awesome. So wait, you're, like, attributing like, that you believed everything in her bio. Everything in your bio is legit and everything checked out?
Noah
Well, you know, it's funny when she says something like that. She loves to sing. I would think that would be a weird thing to lie about.
Jeffrey
She's a singer, okay?
Brooke
Hey, I love to sing, and that does not mean that you have to be good at it.
Jeffrey
Okay, Wait a minute.
Noah
This is a good segue, actually. So, uh. Oh, I just said, hey, can I take you somewhere to go sing? And she got excited.
Podcast Host (Various)
Nice.
Brooke
So, like, karaoke, right? Like, what is the other option?
Noah
Well, yeah, karaoke would have been probably a choice. Oh, it wasn't that I chose. I chose a baseball game.
Brooke
A baseball game?
April
Baseball game.
Brooke
Because of the seventh inning stretch.
Jeffrey
Yes.
Noah
I know in retrospect, it's regretful, but that's exactly, exactly it. Of course, she was bored out of her mind, and I just. I don't know, maybe I built it up too much or something about the singing part, and that's on me.
Jeffrey
No, I know you can't sing. See, Brooke right now in the studio, but she has never looked more confused and concerned in her entire life.
Brooke
It's just the connection between baseball and singing.
Radhi Devlukya
Yeah. That's wild.
Brooke
I've never heard anyone make that connection. Like, do you go that hard with Take Me out to the Ball game that you consider it a performance?
Jeffrey
Do you not go that hard with it?
Noah
Brooke, you know, it's something that is fun and, you know, interactive and. And quite honestly, like, the singing's there kind of as an option, but, like, if she didn't want to, she didn't have to.
Brooke
A baseball game is a great date. It's just like, if she didn't know that's where she was going. Did you tell her?
Noah
Not so much. I was just trying to keep it mysterious and, you know, cool and have a little guessing game. And, I mean, I went. I was all in. I was, like, superstitious with the specific chairs.
Brooke
Like, for your team.
Noah
Yeah, I was really into it.
Jeffrey
I think this is great. Don't listen to everybody, like, trying to poke holes in your date idea and say that it was horrible or, like, not.
Brooke
Well, he said it was a bad idea.
Jeffrey
He's not getting a call back right now, so he thinks maybe that was the reason. We don't know, and he doesn't know.
Noah
Well, here's the thing. I thought she would be playful with it and think it was cute, cool, whatever. But no, it was more. It was more eye rollish.
Brooke
Eye roll?
Jeffrey
Eye rollish isn't good.
Brooke
Did you guys make it to the seventh inning stretch to finally get to the singing? That's a long time.
Noah
Yeah. And. And she was like, when are we singing?
Jeffrey
So is it something, like, she doesn't know that in baseball, the seventh inning, like, in between, everybody sings a song together.
Noah
She did not know that. No.
Podcast Host (Various)
Okay.
Jeffrey
This is gonna be.
Noah
That's why I thought that would be cool.
Brooke
Alexa, I didn't know that.
Jeffrey
I know.
Brooke
That's what I'm saying, but now that you say it. I've seen it happen, but I didn't know.
Radhi Devlukya
It's a good thing.
Brooke
People look forward to. Yeah.
Jeffrey
Everyone's so happy, all of a sudden.
Noah
It'S a weird lacrosse game. Okay, here's the deal. You know, you guys have done it. It's very, like, contagious. And you get there and. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was more just a symbolic gesture, right?
Podcast Host (Various)
Like.
Brooke
Okay, okay. Did you have any fun?
Noah
Yeah, I mean, I did have fun, but she didn't really have fun, which is what I'm here.
Brooke
Okay, so you just want to redo?
Noah
Yeah, that's a great word. I'd love a redo. And I need some help, you know, convincing her to do that, but I kind of have a rule for Brooke.
Jeffrey
Someone listens to the show a lot.
Brooke
Stop you right there, sir. I do not listen to rules.
Jeffrey
Brooke, just hear it. Just hear him out, okay? He's a big listener to our show. He deserves.
Noah
Heard you say this on the show to some of the guys. Like, don't say, oh, how much he loves spending time with you, or he had such a great time with you. Like, don't make me sound simpish, you.
Jeffrey
Know, don't say that.
Brooke
He liked you.
Jeffrey
Ew, Bro. Yeah.
Noah
Why just me? Like, just make me sound cool.
Jeffrey
It's a new thing girls do not.
Brooke
Like I see. Like, he's pretty indifferent.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Noah
Yeah.
Jeffrey
You play hard to get.
Brooke
He's got so many options. That's why he called a radio show.
Jeffrey
I Mean, this is going to be the easiest second day we ever done if you talk like that to her when we get April on the phone. Seriously?
Brooke
God, I wouldn't go out with him.
Jeffrey
I think you're leaning too much the other way now.
Brooke
God, that guy's the worst.
Jeffrey
Okay, now you're jumping off the deep end. We need to find the happy medium when we come back and reach out to April for your second date update. We'll do it right after this. Hold on. Second date update? We're in the middle of a second date update, and for maybe the first time ever, one of our listeners made a polite request of Brooke is gonna be a thing.
Brooke
Now, I am not the one that ruins dates for people.
Jeffrey
Okay, you're screaming already and we're barely even.
Brooke
That was not a scream.
Jeffrey
Well, whatever it is, I just. Just hear this out. He's laughing.
Brooke
That is my disappointed voice.
Jeffrey
Okay, all right, well, even that, it's coming off a little harsh because he has asked if Brooke can please, if we get this girl on the phone, not make him sound like a total.
Brooke
Simp by simply just not sound saying that he likes her. He's going to regret he didn't ask you to stop saying other things besides that. I feel like there's worse. Alexis, I don't need anyone to pile on right now. It's not that bad.
Jeffrey
Wow, Noah. Noah is a regular listener to our show and he's noticed that sometimes your sales pitch can make the guy sound a little bit desperate. Like laughing at Brooke. It is so funny. I wish you could see just the way.
Brooke
Guy's a little bit desperate already. He's calling us.
Jeffrey
See, this is not a good look right here.
Brooke
I can. No, I can do this.
Jeffrey
From what I could understand, Noah wants you to make him sound like he is just a regular dude. He's a little confused. Just wants to know what's up. But hey, not a big deal either way. Noah. Noah. Is that right?
Noah
That's exactly on the nose, right?
Brooke
Okay, when it comes to chill, I am the chillest. Okay? You don't want Brooke to make you sound cool. Don't ask me.
Jeffrey
Good.
Brooke
I hype Alexis up all the time and look how cool people think she is. People think I'm cool?
Jeffrey
Okay, well, no, we're gonna try our best, but I'm dialing April's number right now. Here we go.
April
Hello?
Jeffrey
Hey, we're looking to speak with April.
April
This is April.
Jeffrey
Hey, April, thanks for picking up the phone.
Brooke
Yeah, that seems like a little much.
Podcast Host (Various)
Jeffrey.
April
Oh, there's More than one of you.
Podcast Host (Various)
Yeah.
April
Hi.
Jeffrey
We're not addressed. What she just said.
April
What's happening? Do I know you?
Jeffrey
I don't know if you know us. We're. We're a radio show called Rook and Jeffrey in the Morning.
Brooke
I'd say hi, April, but I don't know if I'm allowed to. I don't know how not to be myself.
Jeffrey
You don't have to say anything. Just.
Brooke
Hey, stop. April.
Noah
April.
April
Oh, God, I'm so confused.
Jeffrey
We do a segment on this show, it's called Second Date Update.
Podcast Host (Various)
Okay.
Jeffrey
Most people to have that reaction when we tell them second Date Update, but I don't know if you've heard of it.
April
I. I mean, I've seen it on Tick Tock.
Podcast Host (Various)
Cool.
Jeffrey
Nice.
Podcast Host (Various)
Okay.
Brooke
I mean, it's not that big of a deal though.
Jeffrey
No, it's chill. You could always like, scroll up if you don't want to watch them.
April
I mean, I do usually scroll past them because I hate a two parter.
Brooke
Okay, well, just go to the podcast and you can get all of it together. Brooke, that sounds desperate. Yeah, no, it's problem solving, Alexis.
Jeffrey
Okay. You know, podcast and all that stuff aside, TikTok, whatever, what we're more focused on is one of our listeners who's been trying to get a hold of you. His name is Noah.
April
Like the guy went on a date with recently.
Podcast Host (Various)
Yeah.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Podcast Host (Various)
Okay.
Jeffrey
Yeah. And Brooke, why don't you tell April about Noah? Here we go.
Brooke
Noah's cool. He's got a lot of options and he's just like, wondering why you're not calling him back.
Jeffrey
There we go.
April
Wait, hold on. You guys just called me to tell me that Noah has other options?
Jeffrey
No, that was said that.
Brooke
Yeah, he's just chill, you know? Yeah, he doesn't. He doesn't really care one way or the other.
Jeffrey
Okay. He has a little bit of stake in the game.
April
Am I being pranked right now?
Jeffrey
I can understand why you would think that, but that's not what's happening. We. We just want to know what your take was about your hangout with Noah the other day.
April
I mean, I thought it was bad.
Brooke
Or he was. I think it was. No, the question is, when did you start thinking it was bad?
April
I mean, pretty much as soon as we got there because I guess he was trying to surprise me. But he. I mean, he told me he was going to take me somewhere to sing because he, like, looked at my profile and we had talked about, like, I. I like to sing and I like, used to perform and I Don't anymore. So I thought it would be like, karaoke or an open mic night or something. And he. We. It was a baseball game.
Brooke
Yeah, he knows. I mean, we made it clear that he messed that up.
April
I mean, honestly, I hate sports. Like, I just. I will never be impressed by watching somebody throw or catch or hit a ball. Like, I couldn't care less. I need a plot if I'm going to be watching people do something.
Jeffrey
I think we get it. You didn't like his choice of day. That's totally fine. You're allowed to feel that way. But we were more wondering, what did you think about Noah? Like, as a person? Yeah.
Brooke
Did he attempt to help you understand the game or was he just fun.
Jeffrey
To, like, chat with?
April
Yeah, I mean, not really. A baseball game is kind of a bad situation for a first date because, like, you're not even facing each other, and then I'm like, am I supposed to be talking to you or am I supposed to be watching the ball? Like, what?
Brooke
Yeah, I have heard that from a lot.
April
I mean, I don't go to games, so I don't know what the vibe is.
Podcast Host (Various)
Gotcha.
Jeffrey
Okay, look, April, I know this is kind of a weird thing where we just blindside you and ask you all these questions, so thank you for opening up to us. The one thing that you may or may not realize is Noah is also here on the other line listening to this conversation.
April
Oh, great.
Brooke
Oh, she never listens to part two.
Jeffrey
That's right. She skips.
Brooke
Tick tock.
Jeffrey
This is actually the fun part, April, where Noah jumps in.
April
Prank.
Jeffrey
No, it's not a prank. It's not a prank. A small portion.
Brooke
Yeah. No, now's your time to come in and act like, cool.
Jeffrey
Go ahead. Noah.
Noah
Hey. Hey, April, it's Noah. How are you?
April
I mean, weird, I guess.
Noah
Sorry. It is weird. The date was weird. Everything's weird.
April
It is weird.
Noah
No, well, and listen, on that note, let me just. This is something I've been hoping to say to you. So I knew that singing was just something you love to do, and I was not trying to put pressure on you. I was trying to do the exact opposite by taking you somewhere to do something in your comfort zone and have fun. And I'm, you know, I'm like. I'm glad, though, that I was able to hear how you felt because it helps put things in perspective for me.
Brooke
That was some emotional maturity right there.
Jeffrey
Are you into emotional maturity, April?
April
Sure.
Jeffrey
I just.
April
I am confused about you saying you picked a place based on my interests. And singing being the specific thing and choosing.
Noah
I understand. And obviously looking back on it, it wasn't the smartest thing. I was trying to do something unique, something safe.
Jeffrey
So just real quick, what I'm hearing from April is she really wanted to sing on their date.
Brooke
She had her heart set on it.
Podcast Host (Various)
Yeah.
Brooke
I mean, that's. You know how that can feel.
Jeffrey
Totally. So this is what I'd like to offer, and it's 100% up to her, but in front of a nationwide audience, listening all across the country. April pressure. April, seriously, no press. We would like to give you the chance to sing right now on our show. Finally get it out there and show Noah what he missed out on. Again, it's totally up to you. You can do it or not do it. But here's your shot. She sounds excited.
April
I mean, I wanted to sing last week and I didn't get to, so. I mean, I.
Jeffrey
Better late than never. All right, take me out to the ball game in three. Well, maybe a non sports one for.
Brooke
I don't even know that she ever knew that that song happened.
Jeffrey
You sing whatever's in your heart.
April
Okay. Something's got a hold of me lately.
Jeffrey
Wow.
Podcast Host (Various)
There you go.
Brooke
I want to go to open mic with you. Yeah.
Noah
Amazing. Amazing.
Brooke
Dude, that was sexy. That was hot. That was like a turtle.
Noah
That was hot. Yeah, it helps.
April
My voice is a little scratchy today. It makes me sound for that song.
Noah
Yeah, you just did it on the fly. That's crazy impressive.
Jeffrey
So, April, I know this has been a lot, but we would like to send you out on another date. It could be like a karaoke date, or we could do something.
April
Wait, hold on just a second.
Jeffrey
What?
April
You're acting me out for him? Noah, man up. Ask me yourself. Tell me you're taking me to karaoke. And I want sushi, too.
Brooke
I like this girl. Yeah. Oh, my God. Okay, get him.
Jeffrey
No. I guess you're up.
Noah
April, will you please go out on another date with me and have some sushi, have some fun, and please sing as well. Please.
Jeffrey
We'll do karaoke and we'll pay for it.
Noah
Ugh.
Jeffrey
Fine.
Brooke
I love it.
Jeffrey
All right. Congratulations.
Noah
Thank you, guys. Thank you. April and Brooke, thank you. And I think you kind of came through for me there.
Podcast Host (Various)
I'll take it.
Brooke
That was so hard for me.
Jeffrey
She didn't throw a guy underneath the table. Well done, Brooke.
Brooke
I never throw one at the table. I want to tell them how much.
April
That they are like your voice.
Brooke
I think it's great.
Jeffrey
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Podcast Host (Various)
The moments that shape us often begin with a simple question. What do I want my life to look like now? I'm Dr. Joy Harden Bradford, and on Therapy for Black Girls, we created space for honest conversations about identity, relationships, mental health and the choices that help us grow. As cybersecurity expert Camille Stewart Gloucester reminds.
Brooke
Us, we are in a divisive time where our comments are weaponized against us. And so what we find is a lot of Black women are standing up and speaking out because they feel the brunt of the pain.
Podcast Host (Various)
Each week we explore this tools and insights that help you move with purpose, whether you're navigating something new or returning to yourself. If you're ready for thoughtful guidance and grounded support, this is the place for you. Listen to Therapy for Black Girls on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Radhi Devlukya
Hi, I'm Radhi devlukya and I am the host of a really Good Cry podcast. This week I am joined by Anna Runkle, also known as the Crappy Childhood Fairy, a creator, teacher and guide, helping people heal from the lasting emotional wounds of unsafe, chaotic childhoods. We talk about how the things we went through when we were younger can still show up in our adult lives, in our relationships, our reactions, even in the way we feel in our own bodies. And Anna opens up about her own story. What helped her notice the patterns she was stuck in and how she slowly started teaching her body that it is safe now.
Jeffrey
So when I got attacked, it was very random. Four guys jumped out of a car and just started beating me and my friend, and they broke my jaw and my teeth.
Radhi Devlukya
I was unconscious.
Jeffrey
Then I woke up and I screamed. And I screamed because even though I.
April
Didn'T know who I was, I was.
Brooke
Or where I was, something in me.
Jeffrey
Was just like, hold on, wait. They could kill me. And I'm not going to let that happen.
Brooke
I'm not going to let that happen.
Jeffrey
I'm going to get through this.
Radhi Devlukya
And I did listen to a really good cry on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Jeffrey
All right, here's the good news. Yeah, they said yes.
Brooke
Oh my God. I want an update from them. I mean, I'll be really cool about it, but I really want an update for them.
Jeffrey
I want an update. Or not.
Brooke
Like, yeah, I thought they were so, so cute.
Podcast Host (Various)
They were.
Jeffrey
Yeah, it turned out to be actually a good match. The bad news, though, and this isn't necessarily for me, but there are 15 more requests on the text board from guys wanting Brooke to do something better or improve in the second date update. I knew we were gonna open that game.
Brooke
I'm not listening to any of y', all, okay? I live by my own rules, and I am myself. I can't help it. I can't be anybody else, Jeff. It's just who I am.
Jeffrey
No one's asking you to be anybody else. Oh, just a better version of you.
Brooke
There is no cool or chill inside this body.
Jeffrey
I say any feedback is good feedback, right? Brooke, they're invested in you and your success. All they want to see you do is be good. Okay, well, you can still try. Doubt she'll listen, but keep your requests coming in to 78592. If you want help with your dating life, email the show. We'll call that person who's not calling you back. And go check out all of our second day podcasts wherever you get yours at. Brooke and Jeffrey, we're up on YouTube, so go subscribe. And also Apple, Spotify, anywhere we're chill about it.
Brooke
Yeah, it doesn't sound like it right now, Jeff.
Jeffrey
Totally.
Brooke
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Episode: #1 Second Date Update of 2025: Don’t Take Me Out To The Ballgame
Date: January 2, 2026
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts
This episode of “Second Date Update” spotlights the top second date call of 2025, featuring Noah, a longtime listener, who wants answers after his quirky baseball-themed first date with April resulted in radio silence. The hosts, Brooke and Jeffrey, navigate the awkwardness, dig into the real reasons behind the ghosting, and, as always, deliver plenty of banter and laughs along the way—all while attempting to follow Noah’s special on-air request for Brooke to “make him sound cool, not desperate.”
The conversation throughout is playful, candid, and teasing—typical of the “Second Date Update” format. Brooke and the other hosts toggle between ribbing Noah, supporting him, and bantering amongst themselves, even while attempting (and sometimes failing) to grant his wish of sounding aloof.
For more “Second Date Update” episodes, find Brooke and Jeffrey on all major podcast platforms!