#9 Second Date Update of 2025: Dragon Thumbs & Aroma Chums

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Brooke and Jeffrey – Second Date Update #9: Dragon Thumbs & Aroma Chums (Dec 15, 2025)

Overview

This episode presents the ninth most popular “Second Date Update” of 2025, featuring the story of Carly, who seeks answers after a first date with Ethan—a self-proclaimed rubber duck collector—with whom she felt real chemistry but has since noticed a decline in communication. The team investigates the possible reasons behind Ethan’s distance and uncovers unexpectedly quirky (and aromatic) revelations that lead to an awkward but entertaining resolution.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Setting Up: Relatable Body Quirks and Awkwardness (02:46–04:52)

• Brooke and the team set the tone by joking about human embarrassing moments, priming listeners for an episode themed around “body betrayals” and quirks.
• Teasing references to “dragon thumbs” and “aroma chums” foreshadow the episode’s motifs of unusual physical or sensory preferences in dating.
• Brooke: "We've all been betrayed by our bodies before." (03:04)

2. Carly’s Story: The Date and the Duck Collector (05:04–10:19)

• Carly recounts meeting Ethan on a dating app, initially attracted to his humorous self-deprecation (“world’s okayest cook,” with a burnt grilled cheese photo).
• First date was casual—Steak n Shake ("He burns grilled cheese, so, you know, low standards." – Carly, 06:43).
• Positive chemistry: Ethan exhibited old-school gentlemanly behavior (holding doors, pulling chairs).
• Ethan revealed his hobby: collecting rubber ducks. He joked they’re for “emotional support” (which Carly found weird but funny).
  • Carly: "He just randomly was like, I collect rubber ducks." (07:40)
  • Hosts discuss how quirky collections can be endearing or strange, depending on delivery
• Carly laughed so hard at Ethan’s jokes that she snorted, which led to some self-consciousness.
  • Carly: "I laughed so hard that I snorted... he kind of looked at me, like, really crazy when I did." (08:45)
• After the date, Ethan kissed Carly goodnight, but his texts since have been brief and infrequent.

3. Theories for Ethan’s Behavior: Snorts, Thumbs & Dealbreakers (10:19–10:47)

• The team speculates that perhaps Carly’s snorting laugh (or some body quirk) put Ethan off.
• Broader discussion about odd dealbreakers (e.g., "dragon thumbs").
  • "Is it possible that he's not calling you back because you've got dragon thumbs?" – Brooke (10:14)
• Consensus: If Ethan is hung up on such trivial things, he may not be the right guy—but Carly wants clarity.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Carly, self-effacingly: "He burns grilled cheese, so, you know, low standards." (06:43)
• Jose, on collections: "That's a great idea. And rubber ducks are huge right now." (07:50)
• Brooke, pondering quirks: "We've all been betrayed by our bodies before. Oh yeah, just like last week..." (03:04)
• Brooke, on romantic chemistry: "You thought that he was being a real gentleman on this date with you, Carly." (07:31)
• Carly, after the kiss: "The texting is just not the same... he's just kind of putting no effort to little effort into things." (09:06)

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4. Calling Ethan: Clearing the Air (12:29–14:24)

• Surprised but willing, Ethan admits his confusion, saying he genuinely enjoyed the date and thought texting was progressing normally.
  • Ethan: "Well, that's surprising, because I'm not trying to blow her off. We had a great time." (14:03)
  • He praises Carly’s laugh: "She has a great laugh, and we had a great time out." (14:12)
• Team recognizes communication gaps and the uncertainty of dating norms post-first date.

5. The Perfume Plot Twist (“Aroma Chums”) (14:59–17:24)

• Ethan reveals he bought Carly her perfume – a scent once worn by his ex-girlfriend that he really likes.
  • Ethan: "I kind of bought her perfume...my ex used to wear it and it kind of drove me crazy. Wild." (15:11)
• Carly (on the line unbeknownst to Ethan) expresses discomfort.
  • Carly: "Even the same as your ex. Are you for real?" (15:44)
  • Brooke and co-hosts validate her feelings, noting the association between scent and memory.
  • Jose: "Scent is the number one connection to memories." (17:36)
• Ethan clarifies intent: it’s about the scent itself, not the ex. "She doesn't own it..." (17:00)

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6. Resolution: Accepting the Aroma (17:24–19:47)

• Carly stays open-minded, acknowledging that scents change on different bodies and she’s willing to try.
  • Carly: "I’m trying. I’m really trying to be open about this...it does change, like different body chemistries, so. Fair enough." (17:54)
• Playful exchange about both parties possibly wearing each other’s ex’s scents.
• Team confirms: Ethan genuinely wants another date and will respect Carly’s boundaries.
  • Ethan: "I would love to see her again." (19:32)
  • Carly: "I guess so. I'll give it a whirl." (19:38)
• The hosts express pleasant surprise that honesty didn’t tank the match.

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Important Timestamps

• 02:46 – Episode theme intro, quips about quirks and embarrassing moments
• 05:04 – Carly describes how she met Ethan
• 06:43 – Memorable “burnt grilled cheese” line
• 07:40 – Ethan reveals his rubber duck collection
• 08:45 – Carly’s snorting laugh and awkwardness
• 10:14 – "Dragon thumbs" theory and discussion of strange dating dealbreakers
• 12:29 – Team calls Ethan for his side
• 14:03 – Ethan denies blowing Carly off, praises her laugh
• 15:11 – Ethan’s perfume confession (“Aroma Chums”)
• 15:44 – Carly reacts to the ex-girlfriend’s perfume revelation
• 17:54 – Carly considers giving the second date another try
• 19:32 – Ethan agrees to a second date
• 19:38 – Carly agrees to give it a go

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Tone & Language

• Warm, joking, occasionally self-deprecating (“These are the favorites of the year and we're already at number nine…the reception? Lukewarm.” – 02:52)
• Hosts tease each other and the guests, but ultimately champion the cause of “real humans, real awkwardness.”
• Encouraging honesty and vulnerability, while gently shaming trivial dealbreakers.

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Summary

This episode encapsulates the series’ charm: a blend of cringe humor, real dating mishaps, and second chances. After a lighthearted trek through embarrassing snorts, dragon thumbs, and rubber duck collections, the real hurdle turns out to be a whiff of old romance—Ethan’s urge to share his favorite (ex-inspired) scent with Carly. With expert mediation and a dose of humility all around, the pair agree to another date—and possibly, a future as each other’s “aroma chums.”

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Notable Closing Quote

• Brooke: “Let’s give credit to Carly, who was able to hear him out and separate the ex from the smell and agree to a very, very pungent second date.” (21:07)

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Transcript

[Brooke]

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[Brooke]

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[Brooke]

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[Jeffrey]

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[Jose]

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[Brooke]

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[Jose]

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[Brooke]

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[Jeffrey]

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[Jose]

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[Jeffrey]

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[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

The countdown continues for our top second dates of the year of 2025.

[Brooke]

All right.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

And the reception? Lukewarm.

[Jose]

Oh, that's better than usual.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

Yes, thank you, Jose. Yeah, no, honestly, these are the favorites of the year and we're already at number nine.

[Brooke]

That's right. And for your number nine second date update, can we just level the playing field here for a second and remind everybody we're all human? Of course. Despite what you may hear on this show. And we've all been betrayed by our bodies before. Oh yeah, just like last week when I walked into the break room right after Alexis was in there. Seriously. And whoa. Had to bring in an industrial fan just to air that baby out.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

There's no lie. Oh my God, this is not true.

[Brooke]

The condensation on the glass on the fridge.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

Jeff, I like these intros better without you.

[Brooke]

Okay, Alexis, don't feel bad.

[Jose]

I thought I smelt that too.

[Alexis]

Did you?

[Brooke]

I know. But listen, Alexis, our listeners know and understand your pain because one of them had a date that made her laugh so hard. Something embarrassing slipped out. It's much different than the bomb, Alexis. She's worried it could be the reason they're not getting a callback. You're here in your number nine second date update of the year. Second date update. Brooke, your husband is a collector of sports cards.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

He loves them. Are you kidding me?

[Brooke]

Does that make you more of attracted to him or super more attractive?

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

Oh man, when he pulls out that Michael Jordan rookie card. Oh my gosh, if only it wasn't rated a 3.

[Jose]

Oh, it's only a 3.

[Brooke]

I don't know what that.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

Actually, I think it's a 1 cuz he wrote his initials on it when he was 7 years old. Oh, that's the worst.

[Brooke]

You just rub that card all over.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

Your body cuz it doesn't matter. I mean, I can bend those edges. As much as you're raising the value.

[Brooke]

I bring it up because one of our listeners says that the guy that she went out with mentioned that he is a collector of items and it stopped her in her trash.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

Oh, she liked it.

[Jose]

It's a good collection.

[Brooke]

We'll find out more about that in just a second. But first let's talk to Carly here. Carly, you said in your email that the guy's name is Ethan. How did you meet him?

[Carly]

Yeah, we met on a dating app.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

And was whatever he collects part of his profile?

[Carly]

No.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

Oh, it wasn't listed.

[Alexis]

Okay.

[Carly]

Nope.

[Jose]

Okay, this is like a nice little surprise for you.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

You don't say it with a smile on your face. Yeah, that note.

[Carly]

Yeah, it was. It was revealed like midway through the date.

[Brooke]

Oh, okay. Well, let's go chronologically then. Before we get to the collecting of stuff, tell us more about Ethan and what Attracted you to him.

[Ethan]

Yeah.

[Carly]

So initially, his one liner joked to me about he was the world's okayest cook, and he had a picture of burnt grilled cheese.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

Burnt grilled cheese. That's really cute.

[Brooke]

The fact that he could cook at all, even if it is just okay, is impressive.

[Alexis]

Seriously?

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

Well, I mean, it's a cute line, and it's an easy way to then transition to. Let me cook you something mid.

[Jose]

You're not setting a standard.

[Brooke]

Okay. So did your date involve cooking?

[Carly]

It did not. No.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

Oh, all right.

[Jeffrey]

Okay.

[Brooke]

All right, so tell us about what happened.

[Carly]

So, I mean, you know, we've been dating for, like, 10, 11 days. Like, not super long.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

I mean, talking, right?

[Carly]

Yeah, we were talking, texting, you know. 10, 11 days.

[Alexis]

Okay.

[Brooke]

In the. In the build up to the actual first meeting. So what did you guys actually do when you went out?

[Carly]

Well, we decided to meet up for dinner, and we went to Steak n Shake.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

I love steak and shake.

[Brooke]

Is that a fast food burger?

[Jose]

Burgers it is.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

But milkshakes, that are so good.

[Jose]

Yeah, it's like a knockoff Shake Shack for my little two lovers over there.

[Brooke]

Oh, okay.

[Jose]

Burgers and shakes and fries.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

So wait, though, because it's like fast food. Was that cool with you or was that a disappointment?

[Carly]

No, I was okay with it. I mean, he burns grilled cheese, so, you know, low standards.

[Brooke]

Okay, burgers, an upgrade.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

There you go.

[Brooke]

Sure.

[Alexis]

All right.

[Brooke]

And how was the chemistry between you and Ethan?

[Carly]

It was really good. He was super funny, super sweet. He held the door. He was, like, pulling out my chair.

[Jose]

And you like that?

[Carly]

Yeah, no, I'm old school.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

Like, I think people being polite is probably. Is pretty well received.

[Brooke]

I'm. I slammed the door in their face. We all love different styles of dating. Okay.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

So it does that to me when I'm coming to this studio. Honestly, like, learn to open the door for someone.

[Brooke]

Well, I don't want to, like, get in the way of your womanhood and do anything like that. So I'm just trying to equal. We're equal in the workplace is all I'm saying. So. Okay, so. But you. You thought that he was being a real gentleman on this date with you, Carly.

[Carly]

I did. For sure.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

Okay, so this is all sounding great. Was there something, like you said, the collection thing. When did that come into play?

[Carly]

Well, he just randomly was like, I collect rubber ducks.

[Jose]

Rubber duck.

[Brooke]

That's the item that he collects.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

Jeep owner. So he's one of those people that puts them on.

[Jose]

That's a great idea.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

And rubber ducks are huge right now. There is every type of rubber duck ever.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

How did you feel about it, Carly?

[Carly]

I was kind of, like, weirded out. I was like, what? And then he said he keeps them for emotional support.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

Oh, okay. Which makes it less weird.

[Brooke]

I didn't know that you could do that.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

Was that a joke?

[Carly]

Yeah, he was like, it was a joke. He was just kidding.

[Brooke]

That's a good joke.

[Jose]

He's serious.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

Everyone. Everyone's trying not to judge.

[Brooke]

Just blew out a big sigh of relief. All right. Okay. Although, just to be clear, there's nothing wrong with having emotional support. Ducks. If anybody out there does that.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

Rubber ducks.

[Brooke]

Yes, Rubber duck. Whatever it is, we totally support it. Okay.

[Jose]

Okay.

[Brooke]

But that was a joke.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

But the rubber ducks were real.

[Carly]

Yeah, no, he has rubber ducks.

[Alexis]

Okay.

[Jose]

All right.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

And so why is this a big part of the date? Like, he mentioned it. Is it?

[Jose]

You said he revealed it.

[Carly]

Yeah, he had some, like, super funny one liners like that one. And I laughed so hard that I snorted.

[Jose]

Brooke, does that what, you laugh?

[Brooke]

I do.

[Carly]

And he. He kind of looked at me, like, really crazy when I did, and I.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

Was like, oh, but you can't control it. Yeah, it just comes like a.

[Jose]

What does he think? You think it's too unattractive? That it's a deal breaker?

[Carly]

I don't know. Listen, he still walked me to my car and, like, kiss me and everything. The texting is just not the same. Like, I'm just getting those, like, little texts here and there, and he's just kind of putting no effort to little effort into things.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

I am obviously biased, but I think snorting is quite endearing.

[Jose]

I like it too. But I, you know, I'm also a weird laughter.

[Brooke]

So you're thinking that at the end of the night, the kiss was a pity kiss?

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

Oh, no.

[Brooke]

Even though, like, he didn't approve of your snort, he was like, okay, fine. I'll still just, you know.

[Carly]

I hope not.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

Yeah.

[Jose]

Was it a good kiss?

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

You know, people have weird things.

[Carly]

I thought so.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

I have a guy friend who won't date women depending on their thumb size. And, like, he thinks thumbs are really weird. They, like, creep him out.

[Jose]

I don't ask questions. I think I know why. I don't know.

[Brooke]

That's. That is very, very personal information to share about somebody on the radio like this.

[Jose]

Okay.

[Brooke]

Okay. We're not trying to body shame anybody.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

Like, some people have weird.

[Brooke]

It. Don't call it weird.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

I'm not.

[Brooke]

Unique.

[Jose]

Deal breakers.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

Maybe that's a good way to put it. Well, and if it's that, then he's not the guy for you, Carly.

[Brooke]

Is it possible that he's not calling you back because you've got dragon thumbs?

[Carly]

Anything's possible.

[Brooke]

Brooks theory.

[Jose]

Are you holding the phone with just your thumb right now?

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

Dragon thumb look like. It kind of looks like a big.

[Brooke]

Toe, long claw coming off the end. You know, let's just. Okay, enough about the dragon body parts. Let's call this Ethan guy, we'll see if he picks up and we will ask him all the questions to figure out why he's not going out with you one more time. Carly, we're gonna get your second date update right after this second date update.

[Jose]

You're the one.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

It took me a minute.

[Jose]

Sorry.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

If you're just joining us, I'm playing this song cuz our listener Carly went out with a guy named Ethan who told her that he collects rubber ducks and he made the joke that he keeps them as emotional support pets. Again, just a joke. But he does collect them. Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

Which begs the question, how bad do you feel when even the rubber duck guy won't call you back?

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

Don't say it like that. She's adorable.

[Brooke]

Do you consider this your rock bottom, Carly?

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

I mean, if you're on this show, I think most people would say that that's the case.

[Carly]

I feel pretty low. But not as low as you think I do.

[Brooke]

Yeah, that's true. There is more phone call to come.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

So we can always supposed to hype our listeners up. Carly, you're amaz and you deserve a second date.

[Brooke]

God, you see how much she struggled to get that sentence out? That was really inspiring.

[Jose]

We don't know what he's gonna say.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

I was gonna bring. I was gonna bring up the snort and maybe that's the reason he's not calling back.

[Brooke]

It is a good point. She did mention that she laughed so hard during the date that she snorted and that could have been a turn off to Ethan. Yeah, but we don't know.

[Jose]

Which reminds me, nobody be too funny during this. If she starts snorting and then Brooke starts snorting, we're never gonna get off.

[Brooke]

Oh yeah.

[Jose]

So everyone chill.

[Carly]

You guys are funny, but I'm as funny as him.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

Oh, all right, well that's really motivated me to try super hard for you.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

That is going to backfire.

[Brooke]

Let me get 100 effort into this. I'm dialing his number right now. Let's see if he picks up. Here we go.

[Carly]

Thank you guys. I really hope you can get another date for me.

[Brooke]

All right, let's see. Here we go.

[Ethan]

Hello.

[Brooke]

Hey, we're looking to talk with Ethan.

[Ethan]

Okay. This is Ethan.

[Brooke]

Hey, Ethan.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

Hi, Ethan. Hey, good morning. There's a bunch of us here.

[Ethan]

Who's this? Hello.

[Brooke]

Yeah, this is a radio show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning. We're like a team, very dysfunctional team. And we're doing. Yeah, we are together. And we're here doing a segment called A Second Date Update.

[Ethan]

Okay. Why are you calling me? This is.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

I love when people ask that. It's just such a natural transition.

[Brooke]

Yeah. So it's a segment where we help out listeners who've gone out on a date with somebody, but the second date hasn't materialized yet. We try and figure out why or if there's a reason. So we're doing that for one of our listeners that you went out with named Carly.

[Ethan]

Yeah, Carly. I know Carly. What. What does this mean?

[Brooke]

She mentioned you were a funny guy. It's coming across, dude.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

No, I mean, honestly, from your response, it sounds like maybe you were planning on calling Carly back and going out with her again.

[Ethan]

Yeah. I mean, are you serious? Am I really on the air talking about this?

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Jose]

Yeah. The segment we have based around dating, it's pretty wild.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

Hoping you were just gonna say, yeah, he still doesn't trust us yet.

[Brooke]

Look, I know this is a weird situation to be in, but Carly is seriously confused because she says she had a great time with you, but she's not seeing the same amount of effort from you as she was before the date.

[Jose]

Kind of like an energy shift.

[Brooke]

We're not sure if anything's changed.

[Ethan]

Well, that's surprising, because I'm not trying to blow her off. We had a great time.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

That is so cute to hear. So you really liked her?

[Ethan]

Yeah, I thought she was great. She has a great laugh and we had a great time out.

[Brooke]

You like a laugh.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

That's cute. She was actually worried about that.

[Brooke]

Yes. So it sounds like you do want to go out with her again.

[Ethan]

Well, we were texting about when we were going to try to get together again. I mean, I'm really just surprised right now that she saw it that way, that I was blowing her off.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

Oh. You know how it can be in dating? Like, God, to, like, actually be positive and. And read everything in that way is hard.

[Jose]

She doesn't know you well enough yet. She doesn't know if you're gonna hit her up immediately or if a full day of not hearing from you is going to be a horrible thing.

[Brooke]

I don't know. Yeah. But everything that we're hearing right now sounds like you're into her.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

Cool. Yeah.

[Brooke]

You want to see her again?

[Jose]

This is good. Have a good day?

[Ethan]

Yeah, I think so.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Ethan]

Actually, you know what? Maybe I shouldn't be saying this. Don't tell her this. It's maybe too early. I kind of bought her perfume.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

You bought her perfume?

[Brooke]

That's interesting.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

That's cute. Like a travel size or full size bottle.

[Brooke]

Yeah. Do you have a price tag that you can attach to it? Alexis needs to know.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

I think that's amazing.

[Brooke]

You know, that's interesting. Why? Yeah. What made you do that? Is like a birthday coming up for her or something?

[Ethan]

To be honest, my ex used to wear it and it kind of drove me crazy. Wild.

[Brooke]

Oh, God.

[Jose]

Hold on.

[Brooke]

You bought it because it's the same as your ex's perfume, bro.

[Carly]

No, wait a second.

[Ethan]

I like the way. No, I like.

[Carly]

I'm on the phone.

[Brooke]

Oh.

[Ethan]

What?

[Carly]

I'm on the phone.

[Alexis]

I heard that.

[Brooke]

Yeah, that's Carly. That's on the other line listening to this. That's how this works. We usually call her in.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

That is so weird. He didn't know.

[Carly]

Even the same as your ex. Are you for real?

[Ethan]

I didn't know you were on Carly. I didn't know you were on.

[Jose]

Yeah, doesn't change the story.

[Carly]

Yeah, well, I am, and that's disturbing. Like, why? Like. Okay, seriously, Brooke, Alexis, can you guys help me out on this?

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

I mean, it could be worse. He could have bought it because it's what his mom smells like.

[Brooke]

Oh, that would have been much sweeter.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

My mind did not even go there.

[Brooke]

Okay, wait, I think it's a good question. Why? Why do you want Carly to be wearing that same perfume? Yeah.

[Jose]

Would it remind you of your ex?

[Ethan]

I. I like the scent. I thought she would smell great with it on her.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

Okay, okay, okay.

[Alexis]

Maybe.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

Maybe there could be a different scent, though, for Carly. You know, like.

[Brooke]

Yes.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

Like my guy. My husband is a scent guy. He loves scents. Like, you just maybe need to explore a different scent.

[Brooke]

Stop trying to change men with every sentence that you say.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

Dude, that is disturbing. You do not want people reminded.

[Brooke]

Okay, I'm trying to read this and help you out here, Ethan. You're saying. And you didn't buy it because it reminds you of your ex. You buying it just because you like the scent itself?

[Ethan]

That's right. This is not about my ex at all. She doesn't own the scent. She doesn't own the perfume. Anyone can buy it. I love the scent. And I thought Carly would smell great with it on it. That was a nice gesture.

[Brooke]

Carly, are you hearing him?

[Jeffrey]

I'm.

[Carly]

I'm trying. I'm really trying to be open about this. But like, I also. I feel like when you smell a smell it, you associate it with whoever was wearing it.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

Yeah, but maybe you're a more powerful woman and he'll start associating it with you instead of her. Did the scents on your body have different effects too? Yeah, they're true.

[Brooke]

Literally, it could have been anybody. If his mailman had been wearing the perfume, it would have driven him mad.

[Jose]

I mean, can I say fact here that like, scent is the number one connection to memories. Like.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

Okay, but. But listen, he was never going to tell her that it was the ex's scent.

[Ethan]

Well, yeah. I thought. I was just talking to you guys.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

I mean, so technically we set him up for this. You know what I mean? Carly, like, you got to give them a little bit of.

[Brooke]

I feel.

[Carly]

You're. You're not wrong. I. I agree with you guys. I do think. And when you put a scent on, it does change, like different body chemistries, so. Fair enough.

[Ethan]

So you'll wear it then? Because I really like it.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

Oh, why do I feel like I shouldn't have heard that question?

[Brooke]

Is that very, very important to you if you're going to go out with her again?

[Ethan]

Like I said, guys, I really like it.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

What is the scent?

[Jose]

Why does your voice do that?

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

What is this?

[Carly]

You had me up until there. I don't know. Now I'm getting like creep vibes.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

Again. That's our fault. We're piling on.

[Jeffrey]

Yes.

[Brooke]

Okay, we are the weirdos in this conversation. He is totally normal.

[Jose]

I would spray another perfume on before he sprays that perfume on.

[Ethan]

That's a great point. I could wear it so you could throw it on me first.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

Oh, wait, wait. I don't think men with women's perfume is a real hot scent.

[Brooke]

I'm starting to like this even more.

[Ryan Reynolds]

No, I. I would.

[Brooke]

I'm very curious, just as an experiment to see how this second interaction would go between Carly and Ethan both wearing the same scent. The smell.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

I feel like she's got to wear a cologne now.

[Jose]

Yeah, it's got to be get some her Giorgio Armani.

[Carly]

But really, I wear my ex boyfriend's cologne.

[Jose]

Oh, how would you feel, bro?

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

That is.

[Ethan]

I'll wear it. Sure.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

All fair in love and scent.

[Brooke]

The whole reason that we called you is to ask if you would see Carly one more time for a date and we would pay for it.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

Yeah. You need to ask a different scent.

[Ethan]

I would love to see her again.

[Brooke]

You are okay. And, Carly, are you still up for this, even despite what you've heard?

[Carly]

I guess so. I'll give it a whirl.

[Brooke]

I'll give it a. I'm a little bit surprised.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

Yeah, I think we did a good job.

[Brooke]

Yeah, I'm thrilled for you.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

We really backed even here on this one.

[Brooke]

Way better than if he had said she had dragon thumbs. So that's. Yeah. This was actually a big win for everybody.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

Can't come back from that.

[Brooke]

No, you can't. Look at Jeffrey in the morning, man. I'm just really happy that she didn't overreact. When she jumped in kind of loud, at first I thought, like, oh, no, this is it. It's over. We're not gonna come back.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

You don't say that part out loud, man. Like, you buy the perfume and then you just leave it there. Like, oh, yeah. And I understand he didn't know that she was on the phone, but even to us, like, let's just keep it to ourselves.

[Brooke]

It was like you said, like, it was kind of our felt because he confessed that he liked her and he felt comfortable enough with us to confide that the perfume thing was supposed to be a gift. And then the ex girlfriend also used to wear it.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

I will say, I bet he would have told her just because in the 60 seconds you talked to him, he let it happen.

[Jose]

Yeah, that's true.

[Brooke]

I like to think that it's more about, like, how comfortable people are around us, that they're willing to open up. Not that he's just has, you know, a blabber mouth.

[Jose]

And also, he didn't think it was a problem. He's like, oh, yeah, I'm just gonna get her the same scent. My ex girlfriend always works. I love it.

[Brooke]

And then I'll call her.

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

Let's be honest. The only reason any guy ever knows the smell of a perfume is because of some woman he dated at some point.

[Jeffrey]

Absolutely.

[Jose]

I didn't know what they're called. I'm like, you smell like Michelle. Yeah.

[Brooke]

Yeah. So let's give credit to Carly, who was able to hear him out and separate the X from the smell and agree to a very, very pungent second date.

[Jose]

I'm worried about how pungent it's gonna be. Are they both gonna show up?

[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

They're gonna bathe. Yeah.

[Brooke]

They're gonna gas masks when they meet up. But text in to 78592 and email the show if you Ever feel like you need a little bit of help in your dating life? We can call that person who's not calling you back and go check out all of our second dates. Wherever you get your podcast at. Brooke and Jeffrey.

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[Ryan Reynolds]

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[Jeffrey]

All.

[Ryan Reynolds]

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[Brooke]

Ah ah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

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[Jose]

Mmm.

[Ryan Reynolds]

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[Jeffrey]

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[Co-host (possibly Alexis or Brooke alternating)]

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