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And we will do it. Welcome to the podcast. Thank you so much for being here. We got a brand new episode for you and it is an awkward Thursday phone call.
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Hey, we brought it back for you guys.
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We got some holiday drama definitely brewing. We're gonna help this guy out in just a second. But first, we love featuring your comments. Yes. And Peter Wilshutt said, I just wanted to say I'm second date update addicted. I love to listen to these crazy stories. My neighbors started listening after I had y' all on speaker in my garden.
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Spouse says they refuse to come with you to your family Thanksgiving for the first time in five years, you know something is up. Yeah.
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Is that that? That was the first hint you had.
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Or maybe upside down? You know you're about to hear some drama that's been going down between a brother and a sister that's turning their turkey day into berserky day.
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And are you trying, are you trying to coin that term?
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It is. And the only possible way for them to fix it is by us doing a special awkward Thursday phone call.
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It's going to skip over that berserk line.
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Okay, Brooke, you come up with the joke.
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I don't know. It's just something.
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We'll do it coming up.
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Drama will be juicy, just like the Thanksgiving bird.
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Boo. It's going to be berserky. Berserk turkey coming up next. It's awkward. It's Thursday. Oh, it's awkward Thursday.
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That's right. Back by popular demand. It's the awkward Thursday phone call.
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I don't sense any sarcasm there.
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None at all.
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Since Thanksgiving always lands on Thursdays. This is perfect because today's awkward call is about Turkey day. Strange, it's usually such a peaceful, non confrontational holiday. Just food and football and constant hugs.
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I didn't have any drama coming out of that day.
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No. But apparently one of our listeners, Patrick, is dealing with some family drama, so he's requested our help. Patrick, how does it feel being the only family in America with an awkward Thanksgiving?
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I feel so like a normal day ending in white for me.
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Oh, it's hectic all the time.
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He's being sarcastic. We all have family drama, so we got your back.
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Yeah. There's even some families that probably don't talk at all. And that's the drama. Yeah.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Dinner.
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Oh, well, I need your guys's help.
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Okay. All right, we got you. I can't promise anything, but we'll try. So tell us about the situation that's going on with you and your Thanksgiving this year.
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All right, so my sister has been hosting Thanksgiving now for the past five or six years, and she's got a really nice house. She's an awesome cook, which honestly makes sense, right?
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Yeah.
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She's a successful one in the family. I hear what you're saying.
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Yeah.
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She wants to brag to all the other family members about how. How great she is. Guys, I think logistically, it normally is that a person. The bigger house that's like, we actually.
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Have family guest room that's empty even though everyone's here.
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Well, we'll just call her the golden goose.
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Okay. Okay. Your sister's the goose.
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She apparently read some kind of news story in England about a woman who was hosting a family dinner, and she was charging per person to attend.
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Oh, goodness.
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Oh, right.
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Oh, no.
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I guess my sister said, well, I should do that for Thanksgiving.
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Oh, no. We have heard other people before say that they are charging their families on Thanksgiving because of the extra costs that they have to do hosting and all that stuff. So it's not totally unheard of.
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I mean, it's basically asking them to chip in.
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Right.
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Food.
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So how did your sister lay this out?
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Well, she didn't tell me directly. She sent me and my wife Evite with an RSVP option, and there was a note that said our family of four would cost $100.
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Wow.
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First of all, my wife thinks it's a joke. So she got on the phone with my sister, and she found out she was actually serious, and they got into it. So now my wife's feelings are hurt, and she doesn't want to go, and she's already booked a plane ticket to go visit her family in another city.
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Oh, God. How much money is her family charging for Thanksgiving?
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So wait, Are you saying that you and your wife are right now sp. Splitting up for Thanksgiving? You would go with your family, and she would go with hers?
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Yeah. Oh, that is drama. A dream for you, right, Brooke?
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No, I actually like being with my in laws. I mean, I make fun of them a lot.
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No, I was talking about your family.
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Oh, the normal family. But where's your problem? Because I feel like you have a problem now with your wife and also with your sister.
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Yeah, I went and I told my sister about the situation and tried to make her feel guilty.
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Oh, okay.
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Her response was good. We don't need her. And it'd still be 100 bucks.
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Oh, wait, shouldn't it only be 75 if you're bringing you and the two kids?
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That's what. That's what I asked her. I told her, but it's only three of us now. It should be $25 a person. And my sister just says, no, it's a hundred dollars for family.
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Oh, she's charging her family, not her plate.
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Okay, well, even to the woman that she read about in England, that was just for a dinner party. You know, it wasn't a family g. Where everyone's supposed to be together for a happy, joyous Thanksgiving. So obviously, my sister is a little. She's a little out of control, and now I need help talking some sense into her, and I. I just could use some advice, guys.
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Okay, so you want to call your sister?
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Yes, because my wife says she's already done with this situation and the whole Thanksgiving thing, and I'm just wanting to kind of mend the fences here and just try to save Thanksgiving, essentially.
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Can I ask what it would take for your wife to. I was gonna say cancel her flight and come. To come back.
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Yeah. How much money do we have to pay your wife? Get your checkbook out.
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Well, I'm curious. Like, are we wanting your sister? Are you asking her to apologize? Are you asking her to drop the fee? Like, what. What would it take to keep things peaceful?
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Basically, just look at the situation and say, this is a family gathering. We need to be together as a family. This isn't a paid per plate kind of deal.
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Wait, has anybody else in your family complained about it?
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Several people have talked about it, yes.
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Have they already paid her?
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Yes, some of them have. Have actually paid for this. Oh, wow.
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What?
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Hey, I told them, don't do it, because I have friends in radio who are the experts.
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Oh, who are. Who are they? Yeah.
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Oh, you, dad, the wrong number.
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Oh. Oh, you're talking about us. Oh, God.
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Yeah.
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Yikes. Patrick. Okay.
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Hey, we can do this.
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We're gonna Thanksgiving.
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And there's nothing more that Alexis likes than asking people for money. Yeah, maybe just have the hundred bucks ready in case.
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But we need to try to think of some advice to give to Patrick before he calls his sister and asks her to see reason before Thanksgiving. Here.
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Yeah, drop the charges, sis.
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Yeah. Patrick, are you cool with cursing? Because that may affect Brooke's advice if.
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She has the ears. I got the tone.
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Oh, I've never heard that saying before.
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I'm surprised Brooks never heard that.
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Not even sure what it means.
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I'm kind of into it. But we'll come back with your advice to let you make your awkward Thursday phone call. Thanksgiving edition coming up right after this.
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Get the dump button ready, Jeff.
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It's awkward. It's Thursday. It's awkward Thursday phone call. Nothing says Thanksgiving like charging your family money to be in your presence.
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That's right.
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Pay up, people.
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When you say it like that, it's not good. It's sweet. It's not totally unheard of because it is a pretty expensive meal. But our listener Patrick, is in a unique situation where his sister is charging a hundred dollars per family. Even though Patrick's wife has already backed out of the event in frustration, his sister's still hitting him with the full $100 fee for him and his two children to attend.
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And mind you, how she sent the news via an ebite. It wasn't an. It wasn't like, a text thread even.
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I'm impressed by it too. No, don't get me wrong. I mean, passive aggressiveness, yes, but clearly it is disturbing the entire family vibe. So Patrick is desperate for some advice on how to get his sister to see reason. Maybe lower the fees. Just do something to get this holiday back on track. So it's more about giving again. So, Brooke, what's your advice for Patrick?
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I mean, honestly, Patrick, she's your sister. You need to explain to her this is dividing the family. Is that what she really wants? Make her see that. And listen, if that doesn't work, why did your voice get lower to reason?
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Oh, no.
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You just let her know that you may or may not be sharing a very embarrassing story from childhood at the Thanksgiving table. That's only if she doesn't listen to reason. Okay, that's a good brother threat, or.
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I'm going to beat you up like old times.
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Yeah, a little black male in a sibling relationship is healthy.
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It's healthy. Patrick, I'm not hearing from you. Are you down for a little family extortion to save Thanksgiving.
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Can you think of a good story?
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If it saves Thanksgiving, absolutely.
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Okay.
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All right, let's remember that one. And, Jose, what's your advice? Well, you're not going to get very far in the discussion if she's already, like, gotten into it with your wife. Right.
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So they had a combo.
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I know, which adds drama. So maybe just to keep the peace, you tell her I'll slide you 100 bucks, but just tell my wife it was free. I like that. Just say, hey, I took the fee off.
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I'll use that if it's a last resort.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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What's your sister's name? Patrick.
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Oh, yeah.
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Angelo.
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Hopefully we're gonna melt Angela's cold, cold heart.
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She could be cooking the whole dinner.
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She sounds like a very lovely person.
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She's definitely the oldest sibling.
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Yeah, there's no question. It's a little hot in there, though. So maybe a little melting action could be in the store. Here we go. I'm just gonna dial the number. Patrick, you got this, man.
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Hello? Hey, Angie, it's Patrick.
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Wait, sorry. Did you change your number? This was like some random.
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Yeah, I know. I kind of dropped the old phone in the toilet.
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Oh.
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And. Oh, okay. I just had. I just had to get a new phone, so.
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Yeah, no, I. I thought it was one of those spam calls. I've been getting so many of those lately, it's ridiculous.
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What, trying to extend your car, limited warranty?
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Yeah, yeah, something like that.
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Yeah, yeah, I've been getting those, too. Gotta talk to you about something.
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Okay.
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It's about this whole Thanksgiving fee.
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Yeah? I think it's gonna be one of the best Thanksgivings we've had.
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Okay, how do you figure that? Like, you're. You're charging your own family to spend time at your house?
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Well, sure. I mean, with the stress of money and the grocery bills and the cleaning bills afterward. I mean, this year it looks like I'm actually gonna have a bit of a surplus here.
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What?
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Huh?
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You're making money off of this?
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I mean, at first I thought, you know, I was just barely gonna break even, but then it. It came to me.
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What did?
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Bubba and Papa.
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What are you talking about?
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Well, okay, they're old, you know, they're gonna need priority parking, so the driveway is just gonna be roped off just for them so they can get in and out easily. And it's just gonna be like, $50 a pop.
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What are you talking about? You're charging our grandparents for an important service?
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I Think it's gonna be one of our most successful Thanksgivings. And if you don't come, you're gonna. You're gonna miss out. I mean, the food's gonna be next level.
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I mean, it's always, like, really good, but.
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Yeah, well, this year, it's gonna be even better. I mean, I've had, like, three people, I think, pay for upgrades for the pies this year.
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What is that? What is that? No. Okay.
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It was on the Evite. If you would care to read it, you. You get a bigger slice with more whipped cream for $7.
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Whoa.
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What are you gonna do next? Pay to use the restroom?
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Look, don't be ridiculous. I mean, I'm being practical. The whole reason that I'm doing this in the first place is to help pay for a new garage door. Okay, wait.
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What the heck? A new garage door? Angie, listen to yourself.
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I accidentally hit it last week when I was watching a TikTok while I was driving.
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This is why she wrecked her own garage door.
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What is. Who are all those people?
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Yeah, I can't afford to be in this family. We're a family radio show, Angela.
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We're.
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We're a morning show called Brooke and Jeffrey.
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Patrick, what is this?
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You're on a radio show? I wanted to get the whole premise of why you think this is a good idea.
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Yeah.
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Okay. I mean, he needed a little help, obviously.
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Yeah. So, Angela, this is called an awkward Thursday phone call. Extremely popular segment nationwide. You should listen. But basically, your brother is a little bit frustrated with how this whole Thanksgiving fee is going over.
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Okay.
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And he's not the only one. Like, you're dividing the family. His wife is refusing to come. You got in a fight with her. Other family members are upset.
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No one else has talked to me about this. It seems like it's just his wife.
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Oh, okay.
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You don't think everybody's.
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You don't think that your family's talking behind your back right now, Angie? Grandma and grandpa for sure.
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Yeah. Charging the grandpa.
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There's definitely a thread that you're not on.
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Just because they're not saying something directly to you doesn't mean they're not a little bit uncomfortable with the situation unfolding.
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I think it's entrepreneurial.
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Okay.
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Okay. It's a little business savvy, but it's against your own faith.
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It's just a little cold.
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Yeah. Nobody here saying, we're not going to steal that idea for ourselves and do it at our own Thanksgivings. We're not saying that, but we are saying that clearly. Your brother is struggling with the whole.
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Concept and he's not very good at talking for himself, clearly.
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I mean, Patrick, you should jump in and talk to your sister about this. This is between you and your family.
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I'm just trying to figure out what the hell is going on with this whole situation. Angie, you know, you don't need to rope anything off. You don't even need to charge.
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Oh, oh, oh.
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That's not what Patrick's saying.
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Angie, you don't want your brother and his family to miss dinner, do you?
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No. So he should pay the hundred and be there.
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Okay, Patrick, I mean, look, it sounds like not a lot is working here, so maybe it's a good time to go with Jose's advice.
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All right, Angie, I'll slip you the hundred dollars. Just. Just don't tell Amanda, okay?
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Oh, your wife.
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I'll just tell her it's free.
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You know What? Make it 150. I have a deal.
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150? Is there a $50 line surcharge? Is that what you're doing?
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There is a 50.50$. Put me on the radio search.
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Angie, that's just exploitation.
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It was.
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Patrick.
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It was exploitatious to put her on the radio. Patrick, it's big of you to admit.
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Yeah.
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Do we get any of the radio fees? I don't think.
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I think Angie's really in the boss in this situation. I think you should take the deal before it goes up to 200 and get your wife the pie upgrade. You got to add $7.
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I mean, come on. Being a good husband there.
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All right, all right, I'll. I'll pay the $150 and throw in the pie upgrade for my wife.
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Wow.
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Good doing business with you, brother.
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It's a happy Thanksgiving after all.
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We failed him so hard.
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I regret calling in.
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Hey, we're the experts. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
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So what did we learn from all that other than don't call us with your family problems because we'll probably make them wor.
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Dude, we learned that the older sister in that family has, like, quite the business line.
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She's got her stuff together.
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She's a boss.
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We definitely learned people who are greedy trying to profit off of family during the holidays, those people seem to come out on top. Probably worth trying it, you know?
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I will say, though, even if she profits a little, if she's hosted all of this and done all the food for the last five years, I mean, she's still kind of losing him money.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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That's why you always get a different family member to host.
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Date: November 13, 2025
Host: iHeartPodcasts
This episode’s main theme is an “Awkward Thursday” phone call centered around escalating family drama during Thanksgiving. Listener Patrick calls in for help when his sister, Angela, decides to charge each family $100 for attending Thanksgiving dinner, sparking conflict, division, and even a walk-out by Patrick’s wife. Brooke, Jeffrey, and the team deliver their trademark blend of empathy and humor as they mediate the conflict and unpack the surprising economics and ethics of holiday hosting fees.
“We all have family drama, so we got your back.” — Brooke ([06:03])
“Her response was, ‘Good, we don’t need her. And it’d still be $100.’” — Patrick ([08:47])
“Basically, just look at the situation…this isn’t a paid per plate kind of deal.” — Patrick ([10:08])
“Just let her know that you may or may not be sharing a very embarrassing story from childhood at the Thanksgiving table.” — Brooke ([12:57])
Angela cheerfully insists that charging family will make for “one of the best Thanksgivings we’ve had.”
She admits expecting a surplus, not just covering expenses.
Revelations include:
The hosts (now on the line) are incredulous and amused:
“Are you charging our grandparents for an important service?” — Patrick ([15:59]) “You know, you don’t need to rope anything off. You don’t even need to charge...” — Patrick ([18:55])
“I’ll slip you the $100. Just don’t tell Amanda, okay?” — Patrick ([19:25])
“The older sister…has quite the business line.” — Brooke ([22:41])
Berserky Day:
“You know you’re about to hear some drama that’s been going down between a brother and a sister that’s turning their turkey day into berserky day.” — Jeffrey ([04:22])
Angela’s Business Plan:
“This year it looks like I’m actually gonna have a bit of a surplus here.” — Angela ([15:26]) “Pie upgrades…you get a bigger slice with more whipped cream for $7.” — Angela ([16:28])
Escalating Negotiations:
“I’ll slip you the hundred dollars. Just don’t tell Amanda, okay?” — Patrick ([19:25]) “You know what? Make it 150. I have a deal.” — Angela ([19:38]) “Good doing business with you, brother.” — Angela ([20:21])
The Hosts’ Takeaway:
“We failed him so hard.” — Brooke ([20:27]) “If you ever need some help in your personal life, you can always email the show…we can do an awkward Thursday phone call…” — Jeffrey ([23:36])
The episode is lighthearted, sarcastic, and playful, despite the real familial tension. The hosts oscillate between genuine empathy and comic exaggeration, never losing sight of the entertainment at the core of the show.
This episode is a comedic yet insightful exploration of how money and family expectations can combust around the holidays. Even as the drama resolves with Angela winning the fee war, the laughs and relatability will hit home for anyone who’s ever endured a less-than-perfect family gathering. The hosts’ blend of roast, advice, and audience participation deliver another crowd-pleasing installment of "Awkward Thursday.”