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Jeffrey
Welcome to Survivor 50. I wanted one more shot to play the game that I fell in love with 25 years ago.
Aaron (Caller)
I want to win against the best of the best.
Jeffrey
I chickened out at the final tribal.
Aaron (Caller)
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Brooke
It's an honor.
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Jamie Lynn Sigler
I've got some unfinished business.
Jeffrey
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Jose
I have more to play for this bigger than ever.
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Jeffrey
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Brooke
Okay, back by popular demand. It is a special awkward Thursday phone call today. Seriously, it's super popular demand. You guys love awkward Thursday. Yes, that cringe is something that is, you know, really beloved on this show.
Jeffrey
It's not that.
Jamie Lynn Sigler
It's Jeff's intro for Awkward Thursday, of course. Oh, I see.
Brooke
That's. Tune out after you found the Second Date podcast. And we're glad you're here. Before we get to it, though, we love to always highlight your comments. Yes, Annie and Matthew said you guys have become my new addiction. Y' all are the first thing I hear in the morning and the last thing I think about when I go to bed. I think I'm in a relationship with this podcast. Are we exclusive?
Bowen Yang
Oh, I don't know.
Brooke
No, I don't like titles.
Jeffrey
Oh, yeah, sorry.
Advertiser/Announcer
Please, No.
Brooke
I didn't mean to freak Alexis out. Come on. All right, let's just get to it before I talk or say too much. Yeah, I. Your brand new Awkward Thursday Swords right?
Jeffrey
Now, if your boyfriend says he has a little romantic surprise for you. Oh, what are you hoping for? Okay, maybe a candle at dinner. Yes. Trip to Sandals, Jamaica.
Jose
Sandals.
Jeffrey
A salmon protein shake. One glass, two straws. Hello.
Brooke
Spice. Got to be blended.
Jeffrey
Well, one of our listeners says she was not ready for the surprise her boyfriend had in store, and now she needs help figuring out how to get him to take it back. Uh. Oh, and do it without hurting his feelings.
Brooke
Yikes.
Jeffrey
You're gonna hear it in your special all new Awkward Thursday phone call right after this.
Jose
It's awkward.
Jeffrey
It's Thursday. It's Awkward Thursday phone call. When you think of the most awkward parts of navigating any new relationship, it usually involves questions like, when do I introduce them to my friends and my family?
Brooke
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Jeffrey
When do I go through their hairbrush to send a strand to a lab and see if there's any signs of fentanyl use? You know, those are normal, everyday things that people always go through at the start of a relationship. But one of our listeners, Aaron, is navigating a different set of circumstances, one that I don't think I've ever heard before. So, Aaron, thank you for trusting us with the health and wellness of your relationship. Welcome to the show.
Aaron (Caller)
Thanks, guys. Thank you. Yeah. I need some guidance in this.
Jeffrey
Yeah, okay.
Brooke
It's fine. People who call us are always desperate. It's okay.
Paul (Aaron's boyfriend)
Yeah.
Jeffrey
Are you collecting strands of his hair yet?
Aaron (Caller)
You know, it hasn't gotten that far yet, but based on the story, I don't know. If I did, you probably wouldn't blame me.
Brooke
What are we solving? Is this a mystery? What's happening, happening?
Jeffrey
What's going on?
Aaron (Caller)
Okay, so basically, I have been dating this guy his name is Paul. We've been together for about six months or so, and it's been going great until just the other day he brings up this scenario.
Jeffrey
Yeah, I'm sorry.
Brooke
You didn't need a sound effect in that. Yeah.
Advertiser/Announcer
Wait a minute.
Jose
Did you say another day?
Jeffrey
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Brooke
What happened?
Aaron (Caller)
So anyway, we were having dinner at my apartment the other night, and he's like, oh, I've got a surprise for you. And so he hands me a piece of paper that he had printed out from, like, the Cord county system or something, and it's a name change form.
Paul (Aaron's boyfriend)
Name change?
Brooke
Name change.
Jeffrey
Like legally?
Aaron (Caller)
Yeah, like you legally change your name.
Advertiser/Announcer
Who?
Aaron (Caller)
My first thought was, like, oh, my gosh, is this like a proposal? And you're now gonna change your last name?
Jeffrey
Change your last name? The most clerical article ever.
Aaron (Caller)
That would be a red flag. Enough.
Brooke
We've been together for six months and a terrible proposal. Can someone document.
Jose
Well, will you notarize this legal document with me?
Jeffrey
It's romantic that he went the extra mile to do that for her.
Brooke
Wait, what was it? Was it filled out?
Aaron (Caller)
So it was like half filled out. But I. Once I took a look at it, I saw it was his name on the form, and I was like, oh, he wants to change his name. Okay. And he basically tells me that he likes my name so much, my name's Aaron, that he wants to change his name to Aaron, too. Like the male variation.
Brooke
Yeah, double A instead of er.
Jeffrey
But what's. What was your reaction to that?
Aaron (Caller)
I. My first. I thought it was a joke, and so I'm like. I start laughing and I was like, oh, my God, wouldn't that be crazy? And he's so serious about it, and I was like, oh, my God, are you.
Brooke
He wants to go from Paul to Aaron.
Aaron (Caller)
Yeah, he wants to legally change his name. And I didn't even know this, but his middle name is Aaron.
Brooke
What?
Jeffrey
Already?
Brooke
Why does he need to legally change anything? Then just go by his middle name. Yeah, tell me what to call him.
Jose
Aaron.
Brooke
I mean, why would you want to be Aaron? Aaron?
Aaron (Caller)
It seems very dramatic, but that's what he wanted. He wanted to be Aaron and Aaron.
Brooke
He wants to be Aaron. Aaron dating an Aaron.
Jose
Okay, so there's red flags here. I don't know what they are.
Brooke
Yeah, I don't know, but they're here. Of those names, when you say it a lot, it starts to not sound like a word.
Aaron (Caller)
Exactly.
Jeffrey
Okay, personally, I like this idea, but I'm sensing in the room and from you, yourself, Aaron, that you're not a fan.
Bowen Yang
What.
Jeffrey
What are your qualms about it?
Aaron (Caller)
I mean, one. It would be confusing. First of all, I mean, who are we referring to, right? And also, it's weird. He's met a lot of my friends. He just recently met my mom. And now I gotta go back and say, like, oh, yes, I know he was Paul, but now, just because he wanted us to be matchy matchy, now his name is Aaron, so everyone now call him Aaron.
Jose
Through with it. My dad's name is also Jose. We go by Big Jose.
Advertiser/Announcer
Little Jose.
Jose
You could go by Big Aaron, Little
Jeffrey
Aaron, Boy Aaron, Girl Aaron Big.
Jose
And little was better.
Brooke
I still don't understand his reasoning.
Aaron (Caller)
Yeah, I don't. I just kept saying that he just really, really likes the name. And he calls me by that name all the time, obviously. And he just was saying that he. He wanted to also feel that good about it when people would call him by that name. I don't know. It wasn't making a lot of sense to me.
Brooke
You owe the name Aaron to him.
Jose
If you believe him, you should be flattered in a sense. Like, he's truly.
Brooke
But can you continue dating a guy who changed his name to your name?
Advertiser/Announcer
Never.
Jose
Girl change her name to Jose.
Jeffrey
Brook, you have the same last name as your husband before you guys got married, so you don't have any room to judge her.
Jose
Hold on.
Brooke
Last names. Last names. It'd be weird if we were both girl.
Matt Rogers
All right.
Jose
Calling the kettle.
Jeffrey
Brook, seriously. So obviously you've reached out to us today because this decision on his part is making you feel uncomfortable, but what are you hoping to do with your awkward Thursday phone call?
Aaron (Caller)
Well, so he. I mean, he hasn't changed it officially yet, but he is starting the process, and I just. I need advice to stop him from doing that without hurting his feelings.
Brooke
Okay. Because you don't want to break up with him or anything.
Jose
You still like them?
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Paul (Aaron's boyfriend)
Yeah.
Aaron (Caller)
I mean, it's been going really well just up until this moment.
Jeffrey
Okay. I mean, some say it might go even better if you're both Aaron, but, you know, it's up to you. It's fine. We can try and help you out when we come back.
Jose
You say Aaron and Sharon.
Paul (Aaron's boyfriend)
Yeah.
Jeffrey
Yeah, some do say that. But we will come up with some advice to give you on how to tell your boyfriend not to change his name to match yours when we come back for your awkward Thursday phone call right after this.
Aaron (Caller)
Thank you.
Jeffrey
Now, hold on.
Jose
It's awkward.
Jeffrey
It's Thursday.
Jose
It's awkward Thursday phone call.
Jeffrey
Tina Fey, Brad Pitt, Rihanna. All people who decided to publicly go by their middle names. And look where they are now. Washed up has beens who will do anything Desperately trying to stay in the sky.
Brooke
Spotlight Ran is like a billionaire.
Jeffrey
Self made, only a billionaire.
Jose
Yikes.
Jeffrey
Sad story. And I think we learned from all those examples that going with the middle is a terrible idea. And our listener Aaron wants to make sure her boyfriend doesn't end up as the next Brad Pitt.
Jose
Oh wait, that sounds so weird.
Jeffrey
No, doesn't want it cuz his name's Paul, but he wants to start going by his middle name, Aaron, which, yes, is the exact same as his girlfriend, just slightly different spelling. And our listener Aaron doesn't want that to happen because it's strange. Yeah, and luckily he hasn't done it officially yet. But I do want to just get a little clarification. Aaron. Is he legally wanting to change his name to Aaron Aaron or what?
Aaron (Caller)
Oh, okay. No. So he basically he just wants to swap his first and middle name legally. Okay, so instead of being Paul Aaron,
Jeffrey
he wants to be Aaron Paul, like
Brooke
the guy from Breaking Bad.
Aaron (Caller)
Yeah.
Paul (Aaron's boyfriend)
Right?
Jeffrey
Yeah. His career has not gone well since the end of Breaking Bad.
Jose
If his last name is Heisenberg, he missed the window.
Jeffrey
Exactly. So again, Aaron needs advice on how to stop her boyfriend from changing his name. Jose, what do you have for her?
Jose
A person's name is a big thing, Right? It's not their identity, but it can be your personality.
Brooke
Oh, for sure. I feel. Brooke.
Matt Rogers
Yes.
Brooke
Like in my. In my soul.
Jose
So just tell him. Like things are going so good right now. If you change major things like this, you're worried it's going to hurt the relationship.
Brooke
Okay, it's going to affect him.
Jeffrey
Okay, that's good. Threaten him with a bad future. Brooke, what's your advice?
Brooke
Okay, well, I'm all about, you know, me, compromise in a relationship.
Jeffrey
Wow, that is Brook to a T.
Brooke
Okay, so Aaron, how would you feel about just calling him Aaron in private?
Jeffrey
Oh, like a dirty secret?
Brooke
Kind of.
Advertiser/Announcer
Yeah.
Brooke
Like proposing, like. Listen, honey, you just keep Paul and then I'll call you Aaron. And that can be our thing. Because it's weird to tell your friends and family. That's the weird part.
Aaron (Caller)
By the way he's been talking about it, I honestly doubt that he'll go for that. I think he wants it to be like universal. But I'll definitely pitch it.
Jeffrey
Okay, well, okay. I mean, I would just be careful because if you don't start calling him Aaron in private, one of his co workers Might. And you're into a whole new area of weirdness. But we have the advice out there for you. You can use it if you like to, but it's really up to you. I'm going to dial Paul, at least for now, your boyfriend, and we'll see if he picks up. Here we go.
Paul (Aaron's boyfriend)
Hello?
Aaron (Caller)
Hi, Paul.
Paul (Aaron's boyfriend)
Yeah, I'm sorry, I think you got the wrong number. This is Aaron.
Aaron (Caller)
Yeah, it's me. Aaron.
Paul (Aaron's boyfriend)
Hey. Oh. Oh, hey, babe. How's it going?
Aaron (Caller)
Hey. So you know how I was going to come over after work tonight? I don't think I should come by anymore, actually.
Paul (Aaron's boyfriend)
Oh. Why not, sugar bear?
Aaron (Caller)
To be honest, I feel like things have really been going well in our relationship recently, but lately I. I just been kind of frustrated. I don't know how to talk to you about it exactly.
Paul (Aaron's boyfriend)
Oh. I mean, I think it's going well, too. Look, I. Whatever's on your mind, you can tell me, because I'm your sugar bear. All right, I'll listen to you. Aaron to Aaron. I'm here. I'm here for you. I'm all.
Aaron (Caller)
Okay, that. That right there, that. That is what is not sitting well with me.
Paul (Aaron's boyfriend)
Wait, what's not me being here for you?
Aaron (Caller)
No, no, just you using my name as your name.
Paul (Aaron's boyfriend)
Okay, well, first of all, it's not the same name because you're Aaron with an E and I'm Aaron with an A with two A's. And I actually had the name first and be changed the name. It's probably you.
Aaron (Caller)
Wait, what?
Paul (Aaron's boyfriend)
I was older that my mom gave me that name before. Your mom gave you that?
Aaron (Caller)
Well, even you told me that the only reason that you wanted to go by that name was because once we started dating, really liked the way that it sound like it was the inspiration was from my first name.
Paul (Aaron's boyfriend)
And it was. And I thank you for that. I went, wow, this person, but I also went, wow. I think I'm also that person. I think. I think that's me.
Aaron (Caller)
The point is, we've been seeing each other for six months now, and my friends think that it's weird. I think that it's weird.
Paul (Aaron's boyfriend)
Come on. They're probably just saying that out of jealousy because we have a good thing going there and they think it's super cute.
Aaron (Caller)
Nobody unfortunately thinks it's super cute other than you. And apparently your mom. Your mom even keeps making this dumb joke about us being Erin squared, and I don't want that.
Paul (Aaron's boyfriend)
But you know what? She said she loves it so much, she might start using it.
Jeffrey
What?
Bowen Yang
What?
Aaron (Caller)
Oh, now your mom wants to go buy Aaron, too.
Jose
There's no way.
Brooke
That's gotta be a joke.
Paul (Aaron's boyfriend)
What just happened? Are you okay?
Brooke
Oh, man. I don't know if she's okay.
Advertiser/Announcer
Oh, boy.
Jeffrey
Yeah, we're feeling okay, though, because we're telling you that you're on the radio right now, Paul.
Paul (Aaron's boyfriend)
Okay, first of all, Aaron is my name. Second of all, who are you people?
Jeffrey
We're a radio show. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.
Jose
Hi.
Jeffrey
And your girlfriend, Aaron, is a listener. She asked us to reach out to you for this segment called the Awkward Thursday Phone Call.
Brooke
It's a good thing. She wants to make this relationship work. That's why she was asking for help.
Aaron (Caller)
Exactly.
Paul (Aaron's boyfriend)
That's really sweet. This is super embarrassing. I wish you would talk to me, Aaron, before you called the radio. But she didn't know how to. Let's figure this out.
Jeffrey
Yeah, that's what we're here to help figure it out.
Matt Rogers
Yes.
Jamie Lynn Sigler
Are you being serious?
Brooke
Your mom wants to change her name to Aaron? I'm sorry, we got to go back to that.
Paul (Aaron's boyfriend)
Well, she's the one who gave me the name in the first place, so she's always liked it. It might just be because she never got the chance to have that name when.
Jeffrey
Okay, yeah, clearly she has a fondness for it.
Jose
I mean, everybody should have an opportunity to be an errand for.
Jeffrey
Sure.
Brooke
Ridiculous. Yeah, I mean, the thing about being in a healthy relationship is being two individual, independent identities of people.
Aaron (Caller)
Exactly. Like you need to be you and have your own identity and something that means that for you. If you don't like the name Paul, that's totally fine. We can go with something else. Just anything but my name.
Jeffrey
I mean, another name.
Brooke
What about Baron? It rhymes with Aaron. Okay, there's so many options.
Jeffrey
Karen. That's a really popular name right now.
Aaron (Caller)
They come up with something for sure.
Jeffrey
How about we use initials? Where Guy Aaron, you can be AP And Girl Aaron, you could be ep.
Brooke
No. Okay, Guy Aaron can just stay Paul.
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Jeff.
Brooke
That's what we're working for.
Aaron (Caller)
This is getting so confusing. But I think Brooke gave some good advice. She said, why don't I just call you Aaron in private? And I can just be like our thing, like, you know, my little pet name for you. But then still in life, you go
Paul (Aaron's boyfriend)
by Paul, your legal name.
Jeffrey
What do you think about that, Paul?
Paul (Aaron's boyfriend)
What about this? What about I go by Aaron in public, and then if it bothers you so much, then in private you can still call me Paul.
Jose
Oh, the opposite. Yeah.
Aaron (Caller)
No, that's like circumventing all the issues, which is that you've already been introduced to my family and my friends and everyone in your life as Paul. It would be. It would be crazy to change it now.
Paul (Aaron's boyfriend)
I know. I just changed my email signature already, so it's going to be awkward to go.
Jose
That's free.
Aaron (Caller)
That's a lot easier than legally changing your name.
Jeffrey
How about let's just meet in the middle and all agree on Sugar Aaron and call it a day.
Aaron (Caller)
I don't know if I can get on board with that.
Jose
I still like them as squaring as a couple. That was a cute name, all of this.
Brooke
What are you going to do?
Aaron (Caller)
I think we're going to have to sit down and have a conversation about that somewhere. Maybe not on air.
Jeffrey
Okay, that's a good idea. And the best news is we accomplished what we were trying to with this call, and that's put the idea out there. Just put the problem out in the open so everybody knows there's an issue.
Brooke
Pretty sure we established at the beginning we were trying to stop him from
Jeffrey
changing his name to Paul, and Now we have 15 different solutions that they can choose from for how they want to resolve it. So you two go off the air and figure out how you want to call each other and report back to us. Give us an update on how you decided.
Paul (Aaron's boyfriend)
Okay.
Aaron (Caller)
Yeah, we definitely have some good leads.
Brooke
Yeah, but don't just sign an Aaron, because we won't know who wrote us.
Jeffrey
Yes, Sugar Aaron, please write us back.
Aaron (Caller)
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Matt Rogers
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Brooke
No.
Jeffrey
Nah, not exactly.
Paul (Aaron's boyfriend)
Not at all.
Jeffrey
Did we at least get the conversation started between the two of them?
Brooke
Yes.
Aaron (Caller)
Yes, that's true.
Jeffrey
I'm gonna take that as a victory for us. And I think an entire family full of errands could actually be kind of a cute thing.
Brooke
Really?
Jeffrey
Yeah, like the Kardashian family with their whole K situation. Okay, this just takes it to the extreme literal.
Brooke
Didn't George Foreman name all his kids George? Yeah, they're like. There's like 18 Georges in his family.
Jeffrey
There is a road to happiness with these two.
Jose
They can just pronounce it different. Aaron a. A Ron.
Brooke
The famous pronunciation. I'm imagining all the monogrammed Aaron stuff around the house.
Jeffrey
The more we talk about it, the more I like it.
Brooke
So at least the less I hope
Jeffrey
that they give us an update on what they decide to do with their names. Maybe they'll have the same last names too. How cute will that be?
Jose
What if that's the compromise?
Brooke
That will not be cute.
Jeffrey
They get married.
Brooke
Yeah, I guess it'd be easier for taxes.
Jose
Well, then they have the first name and last name.
Jeffrey
Oh, no. Oh, I'm loving it more and more. And we can help out you in your personal life, just like we did with the Aaron family.
Brooke
Don't use that as a selling point.
Jeffrey
Reach out to the show and we can help try to resolve your issues with an awkward call. Make sure you go. If you're listening to this right now, subscribe to our podcast. You get all the awkwardness wherever you listen.
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This episode of "Awkward Thursday" from Brooke and Jeffrey centers around a uniquely comical relationship dilemma: Listener Aaron calls in seeking help after her boyfriend Paul reveals he wants to legally change his name to “Aaron” – not coincidentally, her own name. The team helps Aaron navigate how to confront her boyfriend about his unusual plan and explores the intersection of relationship quirks, personal identity, and just how "matchy matchy" is too much.
“Yeah, I’m sorry, I think you got the wrong number. This is Aaron.” (Paul, 13:11)
“I think an entire family full of Aarons could actually be kind of a cute thing.” (Jeffrey, 21:02) “Didn’t George Foreman name all his kids George?” (Brooke, 21:15)
For Fans:
Expect a classic “Awkward Thursday” blend of cringe, laughs, and relationship realness—plus plenty of puns and a one-in-a-million name conundrum!