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Brooke
Thanks for being here. It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning and this is your second date podcast. And if you're new to the pod, then you might not know. Every Tuesday we do a little segment called the Awkward Tuesday Phone Call. Yes, it's where somebody may have a different type of relationship issue, whether it be, you know, a mother or a neighbor. This one is a friend group, we'll just say, and it definitely involves kids and it is very dramatic. I can't wait to see what people think about what this woman did. You know, in our comment section, which we love reading, Alexis, what kind of comments are we getting today? Yes. Okay. I saw one from Natalie who said, at my workplace, most people listen to educational podcasts or audio books, but I'm just here listening to your show all day, every day.
Jeffrey
That's right.
Brooke
Why get smarter when you can be with us? We love that.
Jeffrey
We're like the opposite of a TED Talk.
Brooke
Yeah, laugh, exactly. And then someone texted about the Awkward Tuesday from Indianapolis, Indiana, where you're just about to listen to. Yes.
Jeffrey
When you're right here.
Brooke
And they said it would be awesome to have a follow up of what happens from the lack of a party. We don't get enough updates from Awkward Tuesdays. Yeah, we don't.
Jeffrey
Well, it's a pretty awkward call to start with.
Brooke
Yeah. Yeah, it's a good point, Jose. Yeah, you know, it's all dependent on whether or not the the two people call us back. So, hey, listen, let us know what you think about this situation in the comments. And thank you so much for being here. Your podcast starts right.
Jeffrey
I'll never forget my seventh birthday when I was opening presents and one of my, quote, friends gave me a remote controlled car that couldn't even transform into a robot.
Ginger
What?
Jeffrey
Oh, when that happened, my butler kicked Henry out of our house so fast and my parents paid my elementary school teacher to shame him for the rest of the school year.
Brooke
Wait, and the teacher went through.
Jeffrey
Rightfully so. And apparently I'm not the only one with kids birthday party drama.
Brooke
Oh, man, what a hard life you've lived.
Jeffrey
Because one of our listeners was shocked by the children's birthday invite her son received recently, in fact, all of the parents were bothered by the strange instructions on it. And it's so uncomfortable. She needed our help to do an awkward Tuesday phone call. We're gonna do it right now. It's awkward. It's Tuesday. It's awkward Tuesday phone call. Is there anything sweeter than a child's birthday party?
Brooke
Aw, they're the. Seriously?
Jeffrey
I don't attend a lot, so I don't know. Oh, you should. They're a blast. Paw patrol cakes. Bouncy castles.
Brooke
Dude, the goodie bags are like off the hook right now.
Jeffrey
Oh, yeah, yeah. The magicians making mommy's blouse disappear.
Brooke
How did you do that, sir?
Jeffrey
But behind every balloon arch, other parents stand in silent judgment. What judgment? Wondering who cheaped out on the decorations? Who RSVP'd lately? Who thought a glitter slime kit was an acceptable gift for a carpeted home?
Brooke
Oh, well, I mean, you do have a point on that one.
Jeffrey
A lot of unspoken drama that happens with these kids birthdays. And that's why one of our listeners has reached out for help.
Brooke
Oh my God. No, you're being serious. There is kid drama.
Jeffrey
I'm serious.
Brooke
I thought it was like a joke.
Jeffrey
Her name is Ginger.
Brooke
Oh.
Jeffrey
And she is going through it right now. Ginger, welcome to the show.
Ginger
Hi, you guys.
Brooke
Did you not get invited to a birthday party you wanted to go to, Ginger?
Ginger
I wish.
Jeffrey
Okay, okay, what's going on? What made you email us about. Something about a kid's birthday party.
Ginger
Yeah, so my seven year old son, he got a birthday party invitation from one of his classmates.
Brooke
That's cute.
Jeffrey
Okay. Yeah.
Ginger
I mean, it seemed normal at first. A little birthday card, you know, with balloons and confetti on it. Yeah, yeah. But then I read it.
Brooke
You read the invitation?
Ginger
I was so confused. Cause like there's no time listed, no activities, there's no party.
Jeffrey
Wait, what? No party.
Brooke
So what do you invite? Maybe it's just like a playdate then. Is it just him and his buddy?
Ginger
No, they just want us to send gifts to their house. No party at all.
Brooke
Excuse me? What?
Jeffrey
Oh, it's not a party invite, it's a gift invite. Like I send your gifts this way.
Brooke
There's a family asking for gifts for their seven year old kid's birthday, but not a birthday.
Ginger
It literally says please mail or drop off presents by next Saturday at your mouth.
Jeffrey
Oh, there's a deadline.
Brooke
Is it a joke? And you're not getting, like, how could anyone do that?
Ginger
No. And then they seal the deal. Thank you for participating in this wonderful celebration.
Jeffrey
Oh, Is it, like, a setup for something else? Like, they're gonna make a collage out of all the presents?
Brooke
Maybe it's like, they're collecting gifts for, like, kids that don't have funds for birthdays. Like, is it a charity thing?
Ginger
Whatever it is, there's no mention of charity. It is all for their kid.
Brooke
What?
Jeffrey
Wow, that's bold.
Ginger
I mean, I was thinking maybe it's like a health thing. You know, Maybe somebody's sick and they don't want to expose other people to anything.
Brooke
Okay, There's a logical explanation.
Jeffrey
That's true. Yeah. Okay.
Brooke
Did you find out?
Ginger
No. They're still showing up to all the school events.
Brooke
Oh, the kid is okay. The whole family is okay.
Jeffrey
So probably not a health issue. And they're not in a giant, like, bubble.
Brooke
What family of kids wants more CR. Crap in their house? Like, that's another.
Jeffrey
Well, family of kids wants all the toys they can get, bro.
Brooke
No way, dude. My kids, they say no gifts on the invitation.
Jeffrey
It'd be like, wait, is Brooke stating kids don't like toys and gifts?
Brooke
I'm just saying they don't need it. Like, my kids don't need that stuff.
Jeffrey
I mean, I've heard of that before, but this is. Sounds like you're being invited to a wedding, but you're not allowed to attend the actual event. You just. Here's the wedding registry. Thank you for buying a gift for us. Mind bringing gifts, but, like, let's have a party. Let's barbecue, Like. Or is this only you and your kid? Do you know if other children are being invited to a party?
Ginger
Yeah, so I talked to some of the other parents, and they all got the same invitation.
Jeffrey
Oh, they did? Okay.
Brooke
I cannot imagine your mom group chats right now.
Ginger
Yeah, they're pretty spicy right now.
Brooke
Okay, here's a question. Are they, like, down on their luck? Like, the family doesn't have money to afford the gift?
Ginger
I don't know. I just think this is odd. I mean, who does this? Who throws a kid's party? And none of the kids can go. Okay.
Jeffrey
If that was the case, in a gentle way, they would say that, like, hey, it's a tough year for us.
Brooke
We'd appreciate something, you know, or some help. Yeah, sure. And I guess that's what. That's what GoFundMe is for, right?
Jeffrey
But, Ginger, I mean, if you don't agree with this, if you don't like the idea, why not just boycott it and don't send a gift and ignore it all? Yeah. Just pretend. But the Kid.
Ginger
Now, if I don't give a gift, then I'm going to be known in the group chat as the parent who didn't send a gift to his birthday.
Brooke
Are you serious?
Jeffrey
Politically, she's right.
Brooke
I don't think that's bad. I think it's worse for your kid. Who's the one kid who didn't give.
Jeffrey
A gift, who's like.
Ginger
And then my child is not going to get invited to other party.
Brooke
I would be boycotting to no end. There's no way. Are you kidding me? Badmouth me all you want. That is absolutely ridiculous.
Jeffrey
Brooke would pick it outside of their home.
Brooke
I think she already has those signs made even a joke.
Jeffrey
Don't cross this line and put a gift on the front porch. Brooke would bring her kids to help her protest. Yeah. So obviously this is unusual. What made you email us for advice? What are you looking to do with your call here?
Ginger
I want to know how to be the bigger person here. You know, I don't want to just complain about it. I mean, I would like to speak to the mom and tell her what the other parents are saying about this, but.
Brooke
Okay, so what? I mean, what's the message, though? You're going to say, hey, not cool.
Ginger
Personally, I'm bothered by it.
Brooke
Yes.
Ginger
The more I talk about it, as you can see, I get amped up. So I just kind of more so need some advice about how to have the conversation.
Brooke
Okay. Okay, I applaud that. I mean, I think a lot of people would just ignore it and hope it goes away, but that doesn't help in society. Then it just makes it uncomfortable.
Jeffrey
I mean, I can't give that as my advice. Ignore it and let it go.
Brooke
It's possible, but more conversations are good.
Jeffrey
This is really interesting because I've definitely heard of parents like Brooke said, say, please have your kid come to the party. No presents needed. But this is the total opposite, where it's like, bring your presents. No children allowed.
Brooke
No children allowed.
Jeffrey
We're gonna get you some advice here, Ginger, and let you make your awkward Tuesday phone call to figure out what's going on with this kid's birthday party.
Ginger
Thank you, guys.
Jeffrey
We'll do it right after this. Hold on. It's awkward. It's Tuesday. It's awkward. Tuesday phone call. It's a genius idea. I can't believe I haven't thought of before. Throw a birthday party without people.
Brooke
I mean, you don't like people very much, Jeff. So this. Actually, I could see you.
Jeffrey
It's brilliant. Nobody's allowed you just ask for the presents to be delivered right to you. Wow. And stay the heck away.
Ginger
Dude.
Jeffrey
You should make up like 12 children, one for each month. Jeff. And invite an imaginary birthday party every month. So smart. Jose Ryan is raking the dough. And I. I can't even say it was my idea. It's what one mom apparently did because one of our listeners, Ginger, got an invite for her seven year son to celebrate another kid's birthday. But there's no actual party, no activities at all, just an address for them to drop off presents. Yeah, and Ginger wants to call this other mom and tell her, hey, this might not be the best look, because other parents have been talking about it and not chat, is not happening.
Brooke
Honestly, you're doing the mom a solid. Like you're helping the mom out by giving her a heads up.
Jeffrey
We just need to give her advice on how to do it politely. So Brooke, what do you have for her?
Brooke
Well, I mean, you want to remain calm, right? That's like your goal. And for me, whenever I have an awkward mom interaction, I just play dumb.
Jeffrey
Oh, I thought she was gonna say Xanax for sure. That's good.
Brooke
So you just want to say, hey, I got this invite, but I don't really understand it. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, make her explain it to you. Maybe when she says it out loud, she realizes it sounds bad. Right. Or be open minded. Maybe there's something that we're missing. Maybe there's a logical answer we don't see yet.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Ginger
Cause I mean, I feel like you got to say this out loud to make it make sense, and it doesn't make sense on paper.
Brooke
Totally. Totally.
Jeffrey
Okay, well, Jose, what do you think? What's your advice? Well, I have the exact same advice.
Brooke
What?
Jeffrey
You need to do what I do best and play dumb.
Brooke
Oh my God.
Jeffrey
You call, act aloof and just be like, oh my God, I am so excited. I'm calling for details of the big birthday party. Even though you know there's no party.
Brooke
You'Re getting even dumber than I suggested.
Jeffrey
Yeah, no, you gotta get real dumb here. You didn't even read the invite.
Brooke
I see, I see.
Jeffrey
That way she literally has to tell you and correct you on what's really happening. She's have to tell you not to come, but you'll be listening and you won't get mad.
Ginger
Okay, I like it.
Jeffrey
So if you think you're not dumb enough, go dumber.
Brooke
I also like playing dumb. So three for three here.
Jeffrey
You might go full dumb today. So let's Dial this other mom here. And don't dial it wrong, dummy.
Brooke
I am so excited to hear this explanation. Honestly, I know.
Jeffrey
Like, what's the real truth? Let's see if she even picks up. I'm dialing her number right now. And we'll step away, let you make your awkward Tuesday phone call, and we'll be ready to jump in if we feel like you need a little help. All right?
Ginger
Okay. Thank you, guys.
Jeffrey
You're an idiot. Okay.
Ginger
Yeah.
Jeffrey
In a good way. Yes. Here we go. Good luck.
Ginger
Hello? Hi, is this Tammy? Yes.
Jeffrey
The Santu.
Ginger
I'm Kion's mom. Hi. How are you? I'm good. We got your birthday invite. Oh, I do have a couple of questions for you. There really shouldn't be any questions because everything's laid out on the invite there. Yeah, yeah, I got it. But I just need to ask you, is this correct? Like, there's no actual party? It's just you kind of just want us to send a gift and that's it? Yep, that's what it is. I mean, it says it on the invitation.
Brooke
Whoa.
Ginger
You're welcome to drop it off. I mean, feel free, but you don't even need to ring the door. But you can just leave it on the doorstep and I can grab it. Okay. Is there anything else? I think that covers it. Yep. I mean, well, I kind of feel like it's important to talk to you about this because, like, some of the other parents have. Minson. They've never heard of a party like this before.
Jeffrey
Right.
Ginger
Well, this is not a party. This is a celebration. Oh, got it. But, I mean. And we decided to do a little bit of a more gift forward celebration this year, you know? I mean, what does that even mean? It's really simple. More gifts, less people. It's kind of more fun that way. I'm sorry, Ginger. Is it because you can't afford a gift? Cause if that's the case, it's. Honestly, it's okay. Just have Kion make something or, like, an IOU for a gift card, you know? Excuse me, that's. No, that's rude. We have plenty of money. I just think that it sends a bad message to the kid that it's all about gifts and not about the experience of celebrating with your friends. I mean, honestly, at this age, kids don't even remember the party. They just remember the gifts. So let's just skip the middleman. Right? I mean, I just feel like it's really weird to ask for a gift and there's no event, no Pizza party? No, nothing. You just want me to send a gift to your house. Okay, I kind of see what you're saying. So your child doesn't believe in gift giving unless there's something in it for him. I mean, that's kind of sad. No, it's not about my kid at all. It's. The perception about this is not right. You're just asking people for gifts. Okay, I don't really have a lot of time right now, but I'm a little surprised at the reaction you're giving me because none of the other parents have said anything like this. Most of them are very supportive. It's not that they support you. They're scared of you. They don't want their kids to be blackballed from other parties. So they talk to me. Okay, I don't really like how this is going. So listen, if you don't feel like Keon needs to drop off a gift, just venmo us. Send us cash, lady. I ain't sending you guys.
Brooke
Get her, Bell. Get her.
Ginger
Hello?
Brooke
That's ridiculous.
Ginger
What's going on?
Jeffrey
Yes, Tammy.
Brooke
Oh, my God.
Ginger
Am I on speakerphone or something?
Brooke
Well, kind of.
Jeffrey
You're on a lot of speakers all over the country right now because this is a radio show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning. Yeah.
Ginger
You are so classless. Ginger. To put me. You couldn't call me directly, so you called a radio station.
Brooke
Okay, I am sorry.
Ginger
Hey, you are beautiful.
Brooke
The only classless person is the mother who's begging for gifts and not even throwing a party. That's you, honey.
Ginger
I don't know your name, but no one, no one's begging for gifts. If she didn't want to send one, she didn't have to. She just called me. I'm telling her her options. She doesn't have to. She doesn't want.
Brooke
Dude, I thought she was gonna come with some explanation as to why the birthday party was just gifts. Like maybe this kid was sick. Or maybe. Like maybe there was something, right? Maybe there was a.
Ginger
Guys, it's a celebration, not a party.
Jeffrey
Yeah, celebration and not a party. What's the difference? She made it very clear. It's a gift forward celebration where the focus is on the gift.
Brooke
Why do you want that to be your kids focus? Shouldn't your kids focus be relationships? Like that's what's going to sustain them in life, not stuff.
Jeffrey
Tammy, the reason that Ginger has reached out to us is because she's not alone. Apparently, a bunch of the other parents and kids at your school are a Little bit alarmed by this idea. Yeah.
Ginger
Yes. And, guys, I could care less.
Brooke
Okay, okay, I get you're on the defense. We came in hot. But, like, honestly, like, you got to think of your kid right now.
Ginger
Guys, this is none of your business. I'm not sure what I'm even doing on this call. Because she could have had a private conversation, but now all the mothers will know.
Brooke
They already know. You set out a mass invite for gifts.
Jeffrey
Can I ask a weird question? Does your kid get along with the other children? Is that the problem?
Ginger
Again, that's none of your business, because I have no idea who you are.
Jeffrey
Okay, well, I'm kind of a child. Well, we would like. As a show, we would like to send your child a gift, too. Provide the address. We'll send over some stuff.
Brooke
Oh, Ginger.
Jeffrey
Yeah, Brook will deliver it.
Brooke
Right?
Ginger
Brooke, I'm not talking anymore. Goodbye.
Jeffrey
Oh, you can't even mess around. We're playing around.
Brooke
Oh, my God, she's the worst.
Jeffrey
Does the kid ever smile?
Brooke
Ginger, why do you even care about upsetting that family? Like, you don't want to be. You don't want to have that family in your life.
Ginger
I just cannot believe she said I. Like you said. I thought she was going to give us an excuse.
Brooke
I thought it was going to be like, egg on our face. What jerks are we for, like, even jumping to the conclusion?
Jeffrey
Donating everything to this charity?
Brooke
Something.
Jeffrey
Oh, darn. So do you feel like you're still gonna send a gift for the birthday here? I mean, you don't want to be rude. You're not really asking that.
Ginger
Like I said before, I'm not sending her.
Jeffrey
Really brought out the fire in her, so. Okay, well, keep us updated on what happens with this party. If that kid actually does. It's not a party.
Brooke
It's a celebration.
Jeffrey
Show the gift forward. Celebration of this child? Yeah. Tell us if a kid shows up, because we'll discipline them.
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Episode: Awkward Tuesday: Birthday Scamazon
Release Date: May 27, 2025
Host: Brooke and Jeffrey
Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts
In the "Awkward Tuesday: Birthday Scamazon" episode of Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update, hosts Brooke and Jeffrey delve into a particularly perplexing social dilemma presented by one of their listeners, Ginger. The episode centers around an unusual birthday party invitation that has left several parents baffled and seeking advice on how to handle the situation gracefully. The hosts navigate this awkward scenario with their characteristic humor and insightful commentary, culminating in a live, albeit tense, phone call that underscores the complexities of modern social interactions.
[04:03 - 05:04]
Brooke introduces the segment by explaining their "Awkward Tuesday Phone Call," where listeners share various relationship issues seeking advice. Ginger's situation stands out as a particularly dramatic case involving her son's birthday party invitation.
Notable Quote:
Brooke [03:27]: "We're like the opposite of a TED Talk."
This highlights the show's informal and entertaining approach compared to more traditional, educational formats.
[05:04 - 10:31]
Ginger explains she received a birthday invitation for her seven-year-old son that lacks essential party details such as time, date, and activities. Instead, the invitation merely requests that guests send gifts to a specified address by a certain deadline, with no actual party planned.
Key Points:
Notable Quotes:
Ginger [07:02]: "Please mail or drop off presents by next Saturday at your mouth."
Brooke [08:42]: "It's a celebration, not a party."
These quotes emphasize the confusion and the ambiguous terminology used in the invitation, raising red flags for the parents involved.
[10:31 - 13:06]
Brooke and Jeffrey discuss potential reasons behind the odd invitation. They consider scenarios such as financial constraints or health issues but find them unlikely since the family appears active in other school events. They debate whether to address the situation directly or ignore it, eventually advising Ginger to confront the sender for clarity.
Key Points:
Notable Quote:
Brooke [12:30]: "You want to remain calm, right? That's like your goal."
This underscores the importance of maintaining composure in handling awkward social situations.
[14:20 - 19:28]
Ginger takes the hosts' advice and initiates a phone call to Tammy, the mother who sent the confusing invitation. The conversation quickly escalates as Tammy defensively explains that it's a "gift forward celebration" aimed at focusing on gifts rather than the party itself. Brooke and Jeffrey, overhearing the call, humorously intervene, leading to tension and an abrupt end to the dialogue.
Key Points:
Notable Quotes:
Jeffrey [14:27]: "You should make up like 12 children, one for each month."
Brooke [17:20]: "Yes, Brook will deliver it."
These exchanges illustrate the hosts' irreverent humor and attempt to diffuse the situation, which unfortunately leads to further conflict.
[19:28 - 22:27]
After the heated phone call, Brooke and Jeffrey reflect on the encounter, emphasizing the importance of direct communication while acknowledging the potential fallout from confronting socially awkward situations. They express sympathy for Ginger's position and reinforce the episode's theme of navigating complex social dynamics with grace and honesty.
Key Points:
Notable Quotes:
Brooke [20:06]: "You deserve to feel great. Book your virtual visit today@joinmidi.com."
Jeffrey [22:20]: "A podcast about the strength of the human spirit."
These closing remarks blend advertisements with the show's concluding thoughts, maintaining the podcast's signature blend of humor and support.
In this episode, Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update skillfully navigates an unusual and awkward social situation, blending humor with practical advice. The hosts provide a platform for listeners to seek guidance on sensitive issues, fostering a community where complex interpersonal dynamics can be discussed openly. While the live phone call introduces tension, it ultimately serves to highlight the challenges of addressing unconventional social norms and the importance of clear communication.
Listen to the full episode on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify for more insightful and entertaining discussions.