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Brooke
Hey, welcome to the weekend edition of your Second Date update. And I don't know how to tell you this. We're going to try something new.
Shayna
I know.
Brooke
Not for you, not for us, not for us. I know people don't like new things, but we're just curious because we know you love dysfunctional relationship trauma. Obviously. Yes. And many of our new listeners on the Second Date feed right here. Thank you so much for being here. Don't realize that we actually do a full hour of brand new content every day. A full show. That's not all Second Dates. We do another segment that is very relationship drama heavy and very loved.
Jose
Yeah.
Brooke
Yes, totally beloved. That's called Awkward Tuesday Phone Calls. And that's whenever you have a relationship issue and you need our help making a phone call. So on Sundays, just for this month only, we're gonna try it out, see what you guys think. If you like it, if you don't like it, let us know in the comments.
Alexis
I think you're gonna love it. I mean, if you like the Second date, you're gonna be obsessed with awkward tunes.
Brooke
Yeah, it is. I mean, sometimes they're more. More dramatic.
Alexis
Yeah, it could be anything.
Brooke
Yeah, truly true.
Alexis
I can call Brooke, tell her I stole her wallet and I want to come clean about it.
Brooke
Oh, wait. Did you do it?
Alexis
Oh, by the way, we should have.
Brooke
A talk after this.
Brett
Okay.
Alexis
All right.
Brooke
All right, here it is. Here's your awkward Tuesday phone call on a Sunday, just for you. We're trying it out. Listen up.
Jose
Is it possible to have a platonic relationship with someone of the opposite sex?
Alexis
Yeah, I think so. I think it's rare, but I think it's true.
Jose
I agree. I think it can, too. And I've been telling Brooke that for years, but every time I walk by her desk, her glasses fog up.
Brooke
Oh, my God.
Jose
Jewel drips onto her keyboard.
Brooke
That's probably just cuz I'm eating my lunch.
Jose
Next thing you know, she's watching videos of waterfalls and Ferris wheels trying to get her mind off. Turns out one of our listeners is having a similar problem with one of her closest guy friends.
Alexis
You keep walking by her.
Jose
Yeah, well, if she doesn't do something now, she might lose that friendship forever.
Shayna
Oh, no.
Jose
Oh, great. Brook's glasses look like a sauna room.
Brooke
Again, I do not find you attractive.
Jose
You keep saying that.
Brooke
I don't.
Alexis
Oh, the more you fight it.
Brooke
Let's just choose to do.
Jose
Let's just cool things down. You can clean up your glasses, change your mom jeans, whatever you got to do before we do our awkward Tuesday phone call coming up next. It's awkward.
Brooke
It's Tuesday.
Jose
It's awkward Tuesday phone call. You know, Forbes magazine just declared us the number one show in the world for relationship drama.
Brooke
That's sweet. That's awesome.
Jose
Unfortunately, they also ranked us 758th at effectively solving relationship dramas.
Brooke
That can't be last place, though.
Jose
It's not much higher.
Brooke
Optimism.
Alexis
I like that.
Jose
Today's caller should feel real good that they turn to us. Her name is Shayna. Shayna, it's your last chance to back out. Are you sure you want to do this?
Shayna
I'm sure.
Brooke
Okay.
Alexis
That's right.
Brooke
We're not almost last for nothing.
Jose
I'm proud of that. So, Shayna, tell us a little bit about what's going on in your life that's caused so much drama.
Shayna
Yeah, I have this, like, super weird situation going on. I've been friends with the same group of people basically for, like, eight years. We do everything together.
Brooke
Yeah, I mean, I think everybody has, like, that core group, right? Like, your people that you.
Jose
And if you don't, that's totally okay. Brooke did not mean to single you out. Make you feel bad right there.
Brooke
Did that hurt your feelings?
Shayna
I haven't traveled with friends I'll be part of.
Jose
I'm just saying, not everybody has a huge group of friends that they do everything with. But it's okay. You don't need other people. Anyway, I'm. I'm proud of you for having that. Shayna, what's going on with your cool group of friends?
Shayna
Thank you. Thank you very much. Yeah, so, yeah, we. We do everything together. Concerts, sports stuff, everything.
Jose
We get it. You have a great friendship, and we're.
Shayna
All best friends, and we're so happy, and there's nothing wrong. No.
Jose
That'S great. Is it.
Brooke
Is it an all. Is it all women, or is it a mix of guys and girls?
Shayna
So it's actually a mix of guys and girls. And I'm a little bit closer to one of the guys in particular. His name's Brett.
Jose
Okay.
Shayna
So he's dating a new girl, and they've been dating probably for, like, a few months now. At first, he was bringing her to our group hangout things. Like, it was fun, and, you know, I don't know too much about her yet, but she seems a little shy, but still really sweet and cool. And I know it must be kind of intimidating, like, you know, meeting all these people.
Brooke
Are you guys cool with that? I mean, like, I would assume between the eight of you there's been a lot of boyfriends and girlfriends that have come and gone and.
Shayna
Yeah, exactly. Like, we're kind of. Yeah, we're pretty used to it at this point. And it's always just kind of like a more the merrier type thing. We all have a good time.
Brooke
Yeah.
Jose
Great.
Shayna
So I thought we were all having a good time, but about a month ago, I noticed every time I would reach out to Brett or message or anything, I wouldn't hear anything back.
Jose
That's odd.
Brooke
Okay. And is this on a group text or are you talking about when you privately message him?
Shayna
Yeah, like, when I privately reach out to. To him, he doesn't really say anything back. So I really haven't heard from him very much in, like, a month now. And what's even weirder is I noticed that when we would all go hang out, I would never see them. And then I realized it wasn't that he wasn't going to anything. He was just not going to stuff when I was there.
Jose
Oh, something bad's happening.
Alexis
That must make you feel so bad.
Brooke
I mean, we all feel that, right? Because, like, I have really close guy friends.
Jose
Oh, really? Do you have loads of male friends, Brooke?
Brooke
Oh, my God. No, I'm just saying, like, there's a jealousy thing with.
Shayna
Yeah.
Brooke
With, like, significant others, and sometimes it's worse than others. Are you thinking that the girlfriend is, like, you can't hang out with her?
Alexis
Yeah. You're too close.
Shayna
Well, yeah. So I reached out to my other friends when I realized that it was. It wasn't an everybody thing. It was just a me thing. And they basically were like, yeah, something's definitely going on there. Okay, I'm not crazy.
Alexis
Can I just compliment you? You must be very pretty, because I feel like this happens a lot if you're. Especially if you're attractive and you're close with somebody, or the opposite.
Jose
Is there any, like, history between you and Brad or is it just strictly a friendship?
Shayna
I mean, we're definitely just friends. It's strictly our friendship. But I will say we've known each other for years. So, like, we went on a road trip and, like, had one random, like, hookup thing. Like, there was no, like, sex involved, but, like, you know, you got to.
Brooke
Try a make out once. You know, how do you feel about it? How do you know? I mean, that's the thing. It's like, how do you know if you're just going to be friends or not if you don't, like, just dip your toe?
Jose
That's why Brooke's friend text is called the sample plan. Yeah.
Brooke
It's what makes you so close.
Alexis
You don't dip your toe. You dip your tongue.
Jose
All right, Shane, it sounds like that happened. You said it happened years ago ago.
Brooke
It's normal.
Shayna
It was. Yeah, it was so long ago. It's nothing. It's ancient history. And, yeah, we're 100. Just, you know, platonic. Like, we're just friends.
Alexis
Like, to the point where if he ever came out and said he had feelings for you, you would be like, ew.
Shayna
Yeah, I'd be a little uncomfortable at this point.
Brooke
Nicer about it, but yeah.
Alexis
Sorry. I'm used to hearing you.
Brooke
I mean, has this happened before? Has this a. You know, because it sounds like you guys are really, really close, and it can be intimidating for potential girlfriends or boyfriends if you're dating somebody too.
Shayna
Yeah, it has happened. But for me to just kind of be completely shut out. This hasn't happened before. This is definitely weird.
Jose
Sounds awkward. So what made you email us for help?
Shayna
I just want to get in touch with him. Like, I don't know how else to do it. I just want to kind of have, like, an honest conversation, and he's not really giving me that chance because he won't really talk to me, so I was hoping you guys could help.
Alexis
He's avoiding the convo. Yeah, that's understandable.
Brooke
And avoiding her calls.
Alexis
Yeah, because he doesn't want it. He knows what she's calling.
Brooke
The girlfriend's probably got the phone. Alexis might know. Not that I've done that. Not that I would take my boyfriend.
Alexis
That would be weird.
Brooke
That feels, like, hard to believe.
Jose
We're gonna play a song here real quick, Shayna, and we'll come back, give you a little bit of advice before we make the phone call to. Wait, are we calling Brett? Are we calling his girlfriend Brett? Okay, we'll let you make the call to Brett and do your awkward Tuesday phone call right after this. Okay.
Shayna
Okay.
Jose
All right. Hold on. It's awkward.
Brooke
It's Tuesday.
Jose
It's awkward Tuesday phone call. As I said previously, our expertise is in ruining relationships, friendships. So this really isn't in our wheelhouse right now, but we're gonna try our best for Shayna, who needs our help reaching out to her good friend Brett, because Brett is not allowed to talk to her right now.
Brooke
Well, that's what she thinks, so she.
Jose
Doesn'T feel comfortable with that. She wants our help to get him on the phone and see if they can salvage the friendship. Yeah, and I really think we need something special to start this one off. And I know Jose and Alexis. You guys are friends?
Alexis
Yeah.
Brooke
Yeah.
Jose
So to kick this off, I'd like both of you to do a good luck kiss that'll make Shayna feel comfortable calling a guy that she's kissed before.
Alexis
We already did it outside the. The studio.
Shayna
Oh, we missed it.
Brooke
How was it? Alexis? I don't want to talk about it.
Jose
Well, maybe if we can't give you a good luck kiss, Shayna, we'll at least have some advice. Brooke, do you have anything for her?
Alexis
Brooke, Good luck kiss.
Brooke
You and me, real quick. I'm good. I'm good. Yeah. No, honestly, Shayna, like, I think the one thing you need to watch out for in this conversation with him is making sure you're not putting his girlfriend down because it's just a landmine. You know, It'll make him defensive. He's already got one lady giving him weirdo ultimatums. You need to be the sane, nice, kind one. Okay.
Shayna
Yeah, that's true.
Jose
Yeah, that was actually some good advice.
Alexis
Well, I think that a lot of people out there are assuming, including myself, that there's some type of jealousy happening here.
Brooke
Well, I think that's obvious.
Alexis
Yeah, totally. Well, I. I'm an investigator, bro. No, I think that there's obviously something there. So it. Once you confirm that, I think the best solution is to find a way to set up a date with just you and her, not him involved, so she can get to know you a little bit and know that you're harmless. You're really just a friend. There's nothing there. And that way she trusts you.
Shayna
Yeah, I didn't think of that, actually.
Jose
Yeah, you and Brett's girlfriend can kiss. I mean, it worked out for you and Brett. You guys have a strong relationship.
Brooke
Is this why you don't have a social friend?
Jose
I kissed all of them. Kissed everyone I know. See? I'm learning something by doing this too. This is really useful, but we're gonna dial Brett' you, Shane, and let you make your awkward Tuesday phone call. You ready?
Shayna
Yeah.
Jose
All right.
Brooke
You got this.
Alexis
You can do it.
Brooke
Good luck.
Jose
We'll be here when we feel like you need a little bit of help. But here we go.
Brett
Hello?
Shayna
Hello?
Brett
Hello?
Shayna
Brett?
Brett
Yeah.
Shayna
Hey, it's me.
Brett
Oh, sorry, that's not what came up on my phone.
Shayna
Yeah, I know. That's because you weren't answering your phone.
Brett
Yeah, sorry, I'm kind of. I wasn't prepared to talk to you right now. Sorry, I'm just kind of trying to figure Out?
Shayna
Yeah, I'm trying to figure out what's going on, dude. Like, I haven't heard from you in like month and I've just kind of been hearing stuff and I'm trying to figure out, you know, I wanted to hear from you about it.
Brett
Yeah, I get that. It's just the thing. I'm in kind of new and I don't know what to say.
Shayna
I mean, like, I know, I know this relationship is new and everything. I totally get it. Like we've all been there, but I don't know, I just feel like I don't want to feel like she's the reason. Like we don't ever talk again. This just feels really weird.
Brett
Yeah, I get that. It is weird.
Shayna
Like, I'm trying to figure out, like, does she hate me? Because, you know, you tell me anything, so I just don't know what's going on.
Brett
No, she doesn't. She doesn't hate you. I. I mean, you've been around her a little.
Shayna
She's.
Brett
She's kind of shy. And like I told her just because I wanted, you know, which is maybe the not to. Good move. I told her that you and I had. Had, you know, we had.
Shayna
Well, it was only. I mean, you only, like, it was only one time. Like, is that really what she's upset about? Like, that you told her? It happened like years ago. Right.
Brett
Well, the road trip thing. Yeah. And then the Cinco de Mayo at your parents house, you know that. Oops.
Shayna
Oh. Oh, I totally forgot about that. But I mean, they were both like a really long time.
Brett
But I told her that, you know, and.
Shayna
And we're totally. Like, it's not like we're not like that. Like we're, you know, like we were drunk, we're just having fun. Like we're around our friends, you know, it happens. That kind of stuff happens.
Brett
Like, I'm well aware we're good. You know, just, it's. It's almost like there's this interim period where I'm kind of proving something to her I had no intention of. Just like. I don't know how to handle this, to be quite honest.
Shayna
Well, I mean, what can we do? Like, how do we prove. How do we show her, you know, like that I. I'm harmless. We are literally just really good friends.
Brett
Like, you'll have to bury those really, really strong feelings you have. That's the first thing.
Shayna
Oh my God. Shut the hell up. You are not making this better. That's not funny.
Brett
Yeah, but I mean, you're so in love with me that. It's just kind of hard, you know?
Shayna
Oh, it's unbearable. It's really. Oh, God. Whatever will I do?
Brett
Yeah, I actually, I. I think I have a theory about the Cinco de Mayo thing. I don't think you knew it was me. You were so trash.
Shayna
I mean, I don't remember most of the night, so that's probably accurate. But, yeah, see, I mean, that's what. That's what I mean. That doesn't make me look very good, but that's what she needs. No, you know, like, it. It's not about you or anything. Like, we're just having fun and. I don't know, like, should we, like, can we talk to her together or something? I just want to. I don't know. I just want to be friends with you again. And this sucks. And I really.
Brett
I don't know. I don't want. I obviously don't want to this friendship to go away. That's never been my intention. And for now, I mean, I don't know, you, like, went and bought a burner phone or something and got me online. So we have to kind of figure this out. I think, like, you know, since we know we're not gonna be doing anything we shouldn't, we can just have, like, a secret friendship, you know, that no one knows about. For now.
Shayna
That is not gonna work. Shoot. So the thing is, when I couldn't get in touch with you, the reason that you don't recognize the phone number is because this is actually on the radio. Awkward.
Brett
What's going on?
Alexis
Surprise.
Jose
Secret cell.
Shayna
I'm so. I'm sorry.
Brett
I didn't realize that you mean, like, on a ra. Like. Like live?
Jose
Yeah.
Brooke
Hey.
Jose
Hey, Brett. What's up?
Brett
Hey. Why is there 50 people saying, yeah.
Jose
You'Re on the radio? It's like, there's four of us here.
Brooke
Yeah. Me with Shayna. That's five.
Alexis
There's a lot listening, though, that's for sure.
Jose
You're on Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning right now, Brett.
Brett
Well, that.
Brooke
It's okay.
Alexis
I mean, Secret friends.
Brooke
You didn't say.
Brett
Yeah, I'm thinking about the secret friends thing. That's not going to play very well on my.
Shayna
That doesn't sound great. Doesn't sou.
Jose
Yeah, just a few million people now.
Brooke
The rest of it was good. I mean, you were joking about her being in love with you, right? That was a joke.
Alexis
Was that a joke? I couldn't tell.
Brett
I hope sarcasm, like, reads over the radio or whatever.
Alexis
It was just very dry.
Jose
Yeah. Okay. It's a joke, though. You guys don't have secret feelings for each other outside of the friendship?
Shayna
No, not at all. I mean, that's why I came on here. Like, I. Yeah, this isn't. This shouldn't be a big deal. I mean, I get the radio thing, that's. And the secret thing. That sounds awful, but the rest of it, like.
Alexis
But what about. You only told us you hooked up once, all of a sudden, multiple times.
Brooke
She forgot about the other time. I said that big.
Alexis
I mean, but it makes it look worse.
Brooke
I don't know.
Alexis
That's 100 increase in hooking up when.
Jose
It comes to cheating. Jose is like, suddenly a math whiz.
Shayna
Yeah, that was amazing.
Brooke
But the thing is, it was so forgettable that she forgot about it. That's how little she cares about it.
Jose
I mean, it doesn't bode well for you, Brett.
Brooke
It doesn't sound like you have delivered your friendship to your girlfriend very well.
Brett
Yeah, it wasn't handled well, obviously. So I just. Once I told her about, like, the road trip thing and the other thing, then it was just like she couldn't not hear that we didn't have feelings. Sort of spark.
Jose
And look, we are running a little bit short on time here, but, Brett, something that you don't know is before we called you, we went around the room and all gave advice to Shayna on what we thought she should do. Yeah, and somebody here suggested that Shayna and your girlfriend should hang out one on one without you, and they could get to know each other a little bit. What do you think of that?
Brett
Yeah, but she's. She's such a, like, ball buster that I'm afraid she's gonna, like, overshoot and then I'm gonna be like, my girlfriend's gonna break up with me.
Brooke
That's how you bond. Yeah, exactly.
Alexis
That's a true friend, though.
Jose
I understand it's a weird situation, but I think you should at least talk to your girlfriend about it. It. Yeah, it's worth bringing up.
Alexis
It's low risk, bro.
Brett
Yeah, and be like, you're the only one in the area that doesn't know that this happened, so I have to tell her now.
Brooke
You know, like, I gotta tell you, Awkward Tuesday is one of our most popular podcasts. You could actually send it to her. Find it on Spotify.
Jose
Anywhere else.
Brooke
She can hear it all over again.
Alexis
Yeah, she can hear your not good joke about.
Jose
You'Ll laugh about it together.
Shayna
See, I don't have to rag on you. They're doing it for me Brooke and.
Brooke
Jeffrey in the morning.
Podcast Summary: Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Episode Title: Awkward Tuesday: Close Encounters Of The Friend Kind
Release Date: January 5, 2025
Host/Author: iHeartPodcasts
In this episode of Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update, hosts Brooke and Jeffrey introduce an exciting new segment titled "Awkward Tuesday Phone Calls". Brooke kicks off the segment by acknowledging the podcast's established focus on relationship drama and hinting at the fresh content this new addition will bring.
Brooke [00:34]: "That's totally beloved. That's called Awkward Tuesday Phone Calls. And that's whenever you have a relationship issue and you need our help making a phone call."
Shayna and Jose join the conversation, expressing enthusiasm and curiosity about how this new segment will unfold. Alexis adds a playful tone, indicating that listeners who enjoy the existing content will find the new segment equally entertaining.
Alexis [00:56]: "I think you're gonna love it. I mean, if you like the Second date, you're gonna be obsessed with awkward tunes."
The segment transitions to Shayna's predicament, where she seeks assistance in navigating a strained friendship. Shayna explains that she has been part of a close-knit group of friends for eight years, centered around activities like concerts and sports. Her issue arises from her friend Brett's new romantic relationship, which has seemingly caused Brett to distance himself from her.
Shayna [03:09]: "I have this, like, super weird situation going on. I've been friends with the same group of people basically for, like, eight years. We do everything together."
Shayna reveals that despite Brett's new relationship, she continues to reach out to him privately without receiving any responses. Her attempts to engage Brett during group activities have also been unsuccessful, leading her to feel excluded and anxious about the state of their friendship.
Shayna [05:00]: "I really haven't heard from him very much in, like, a month now."
Brooke, Jose, and Alexis offer Shayna a range of advice to address her concerns. Brooke emphasizes the importance of maintaining a respectful and non-confrontational approach when addressing the issue with Brett.
Brooke [09:32]: "The one thing you need to watch out for in this conversation with him is making sure you're not putting his girlfriend down because it's just a landmine."
Alexis suggests fostering a better relationship between Shayna and Brett's girlfriend to alleviate potential jealousy and build trust.
Alexis [10:05]: "Once you confirm that, I think the best solution is to find a way to set up a date with just you and her, not him involved, so she can get to know you a little bit and know that you're harmless."
Jose reinforces the idea of open communication, advising Shayna to discuss the situation openly with Brett's girlfriend.
Jose [17:02]: "I think you should at least talk to your girlfriend about it. It’s worth bringing up."
In a bold move, the hosts decide to facilitate Shayna's conversation with Brett by making a live phone call during the podcast. This decision leads to an unmistakably awkward and humorous interaction as Brett is unexpectedly thrust into the public forum.
Jose [10:56]: "We're gonna dial Brett' you, Shayne, and let you make your awkward Tuesday phone call. You ready?"
The live call reveals Brett's discomfort and awkwardness as he grapples with answering Shayna's concerns publicly.
Brett [11:10]: "Yeah, sorry, I'm kind of. I wasn't prepared to talk to you right now."
Throughout the call, Brett attempts to navigate the conversation, explaining his confusion and the challenges of maintaining his new relationship while keeping his friendship with Shayna intact. Despite his efforts, the dialogue often devolves into humorous misunderstandings and quirky exchanges, showcasing the podcast hosts' knack for blending relationship advice with entertainment.
Shayna [14:46]: "I just want to. I don't know. I just want to be friends with you again. And this sucks. And I really..."
The episode concludes with the hosts and Brett reflecting on the unforeseen public nature of the call. They acknowledge the humor and unpredictability that ensued, while also touching upon the deeper issues of friendship dynamics and communication.
Brooke [16:21]: "She forgot about the other time. I said that big."
Jose [17:05]: "Look, we are running a little bit short on time here, but, Brett, something that you don't know is before we called you, we went around the room and all gave advice to Shayna on what we thought she should do."
The hosts reassure Shayna and Brett that despite the awkwardness, the episode serves as a valuable lesson in handling complex interpersonal relationships.
Brooke [17:02]: "See, I don't have to rag on you. They're doing it for me Brooke and."
Introducing New Content: The introduction of "Awkward Tuesday Phone Calls" adds a fresh and engaging dimension to the podcast, allowing for real-time resolution of relationship issues.
Navigating Friendships and Relationships: Shayna's story underscores the challenges of maintaining friendships amidst changing relationship statuses, highlighting the importance of open communication and empathy.
Humor in Awkward Situations: The live call with Brett exemplifies how humor can be interwoven with serious discussions to create relatable and entertaining content for listeners.
Brooke [09:32]: "The one thing you need to watch out for in this conversation with him is making sure you're not putting his girlfriend down because it's just a landmine."
Alexis [10:05]: "Once you confirm that, I think the best solution is to find a way to set up a date with just you and her."
Jose [17:05]: "Something that you don't know is before we called you, we went around the room and all gave advice to Shayna on what we thought she should do."
This episode of Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update masterfully blends heartfelt relationship advice with comedic elements, offering listeners both guidance and entertainment. Shayna's journey serves as a compelling narrative that many can relate to, emphasizing the complexities of friendship and the impact of new relationships on established dynamics.