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Menelik Lumumba
Black history lives in our stories, our culture, and the conversations we still having today, this Black History Month. The podcast I Didn't Know, maybe you didn't either. Digs into the moments, perspectives, and experiences that don't always make the textbook. Let me tell you about Garrett Morgan Bruh had to pretend he didn't even exist just to sell his own invention. Listen to I Didn't Know. Maybe you didn't either. From the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or simply wherever you your podcast.
Narrator (Betrayal Podcast)
In the middle of the night, Saskia awoke in a haze. Her husband Mike was on his laptop. What was on his screen would change Saskia's life forever.
Brooke
I said, I need you to tell me exactly what you're doing. And immediately the mask came off.
Addison
You're supposed to be safe. That's your home. That's your husband.
Narrator (Betrayal Podcast)
Listen to Betrayal Season 5 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Menelik Lumumba
This show contains information subject to but not limited to personal takes, rumors, not so accurate stats, and plenty more. What's up, man? This your boy, Nav Green from the Broken Play Podcast. Look, it's the end of the season. The playoffs are here. Guess what? It ain't the end of your season. You can always tune in with Broken Play Podcast with Nav Green on the Black Effect Podcast Network. Not a team who ain't going to the playoff. The chief. It's time to rebuild. Listen to Broken Play from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Ryder Strong
This is Ryder Strong, and I have a new podcast called the red weather. In 1995, my neighbor Anna Trainor disappeared from a commune. It was nature and trees and praying and drugs.
Zemi
So, no, I am not your guru.
Ryder Strong
Back then, I lied to everybody.
Brooke
They have had this case for 30 years.
Ryder Strong
I'm going back to my hometown to uncover the truth. Listen to the Red Weather on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Jeffrey
You know Roald Dahl, he thought of Willy Wonka in the bfg, but did you know he was a spy? In the new podcast, the Secret World of Roald Dahl, I'll tell you that story and much, much more.
Brooke
What?
Jeffrey
You probably won't believe it either.
Brooke
Was this before you wrote his stories?
Zemi
It must have been okay.
Brooke
I don't think that's true.
Jeffrey
I'm telling you, the guy was a spy. Listen to the Secret World of Roald Dahl on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Brooke
Is wild. Is February already? Hey, welcome to a brand new episode of your second day podcast with Brooke and Jeffrey. I know, right? I always feel like January is 822 days, and then once you hit February, you wake up and it's November. Yeah, downhill. What happened? Crazy. But we got a new episode to get you through it. Awkward Tuesday phone call today. And we always love to start with your comments. Yes, Cora said I used to listen to you guys on the radio when I'd go to work with my dad six to eight years ago. We lived in Idaho at the time, and I just started to again after finding you guys on TikTok. And I've been here for maybe seven months. Dude, that's so awesome you're back.
Ryder Strong
Did you get a new job? Were you eight years without a job?
Brooke
Yeah. Nope.
Ryder Strong
Send your resume.
Brooke
I want to see her dad got lost. Oh, yeah. Drive one morning. Hey, thanks for being here. Yeah, thanks for finding us. A brand new episode just for you. Starts right now.
Jeffrey
Did you know actress Charlize Theron was discovered randomly by a Hollywood agent who witnessed her arguing with a bank teller?
Brooke
What? Oh.
Jeffrey
Whoa. True story.
Brooke
That's crazy.
Jeffrey
Also, Pam Anderson, she got spotted on a hockey game. Jumbotron, yo. Yeah, that's how she was found. And Timothee Chalamet was discovered when a director mistook him for a coat rack and popped him into a scene. And they were like, oh, wait, he's a human and he can act.
Ryder Strong
And you're now the hottest guy in Hollywood.
Jeffrey
Somehow, I know. Just in. In one instant, everything changed for all these people. And one of our listeners says that's now happening to him because he walked into a bakery one morning as just a normal nobody, and now thousands of strangers know his name, and it has created a very weird issue that only we can help him with. You're gonna hear it in your brand new Awkward Tuesday phone call next.
Ryder Strong
It's Awkward.
Brooke
It's Tuesday.
Ryder Strong
It's Awkward Tuesday phone call.
Jeffrey
They say life can in the blink of an eye.
Addison
That's true.
Jeffrey
But for one of our listeners, it only took 72 hours for his life to be completely turned upside down. His name is Zemi with a Z. And a lot of times, if I set up a segment the way that I just said, you would think, oh, no, terrible things must have happened. Have his life turned totally around?
Brooke
Yeah, when you say upside down, the down part is usually the bad part.
Ryder Strong
Jeff, I assume he's doing good, but.
Jeffrey
It'S actually the exact opposite. It's been a wonderful past 72 hours.
Brooke
So maybe his life turned right side up.
Jeffrey
Whatever it is turning has happened. And apparently it's come to the point where Zemi needs our help, and that's what we do right here on the Awkward Tuesday. So, Zemi, welcome to the show.
Zemi
Hey. Hi. Hi.
Brooke
Oh, you do sound like a happy man, Zemi.
Zemi
I try.
Brooke
Okay. I can't wait to hear about the last 72 hours.
Jeffrey
Yeah. What's happened? How did your life change?
Zemi
So I was at a bakery recently. I was waiting in line to get these really popular fruit scones that they make.
Ryder Strong
Please tell me, like, a muffin turned your life around.
Brooke
That's right. Same Jose.
Zemi
Yeah, they're really great. They recently went viral.
Brooke
That's what this whole thing is about.
Zemi
So I'm standing in line, right? And there's this really cute girl behind me, and she asked me, hey, can you move over so I can get a video of the food case?
Brooke
Oh, okay.
Ryder Strong
Oh, she's doing, like, a video just.
Jeffrey
To film the food.
Brooke
I'd be worried that she was just using it as a ruse to take my spot in line.
Jeffrey
Oh, yeah, she does that all the way to the very front.
Brooke
The only one who's like, she's so nice. She's bringing home food for somebody.
Ryder Strong
She can be, like, taking pictures, like, hey, what do you guys want?
Menelik Lumumba
Maybe.
Jeffrey
Okay. What did you do?
Zemi
Well, she says, hey, how many are you gonna buy? Because she doesn't want them to run out.
Brooke
Oh, okay.
Zemi
I tell her I'm gonna buy all of them, and she can buy one of them off of me for triple the price. Whoa.
Jeffrey
Oh, okay.
Menelik Lumumba
Are you kidding?
Jeffrey
This is a joke. Like, you're flirting in a joking way.
Zemi
Yeah. Yeah.
Brooke
Okay.
Jeffrey
Okay.
Ryder Strong
He's like, no, I'm an entrepreneur.
Brooke
Like, yeah. Unless she were to offer me a lot of money.
Jeffrey
Right.
Ryder Strong
But that's good. You, like, crack a joke.
Jeffrey
What'd she say?
Zemi
She laughs and says, rude. And then we became, like, instant friends right there as we were waiting. Her name is Addison.
Brooke
Okay.
Zemi
And then she asked me, hey, will you be in my video and try a scone with me? I'm an influencer.
Brooke
Oh, cute.
Zemi
I was like, sure.
Addison
Okay.
Narrator (Betrayal Podcast)
Okay.
Jeffrey
Probably didn't expect to do it, but why not? Cool.
Zemi
We tasted them together, you know, as she's recording us, and we rated them.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Zemi
After this video was over, I realized I wanted to hang out more with her. And then we ended up going out for drinks.
Brooke
Sweet.
Zemi
Okay.
Jeffrey
Amazing.
Zemi
And again, she's like filming all the things we do. Oh, she's wherever we go.
Jeffrey
Oh, well, she's an influencer.
Ryder Strong
Expect that.
Brooke
It's kind of annoying, though.
Addison
Or not annoying.
Ryder Strong
I feel like it's like you'd expect.
Brooke
That, but on a date, you're like, yeah. You know, there's a difference between work and personal.
Jeffrey
How did you feel about it?
Zemi
Well, I mean, you know, she's cute. So.
Jeffrey
If you want to film me 24 7, I guess you have my consent.
Zemi
Okay, here's kind of the weird part. I go to use the restroom, and I'm in the stall and I start to search on my phone for her.
Brooke
Yeah.
Zemi
And I find her Instagram. Okay. And she does have a ton of followers.
Brooke
Okay, so she's legit.
Menelik Lumumba
That's cool.
Zemi
Yeah. And the last couple videos are of me, right?
Jeffrey
She's been filming both of you, right?
Zemi
Yeah, exactly. I mean, video of us at the bakery. And the caption is, cute guy found in the wild.
Brooke
Okay, awesome. What a win for you.
Zemi
And then there's another video. Was like, oh, my gosh, he kissed me.
Brooke
What?
Jeffrey
You kissed her?
Ryder Strong
Bro, you didn't tell us you kissed.
Zemi
Well, yeah.
Jeffrey
Okay. I mean, these are. I mean, these are all, like, good things. It sounds like she's saying, but why are you saying them so hesitantly?
Ryder Strong
Yeah, what's the problem?
Zemi
Well, it was just so weird to see my love life playing out real time on social media.
Brooke
Don't date anyone on this show.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Ryder Strong
Anyone influencing.
Zemi
I'm not used to this. And so there's a lot of engagement. Like, you know, they're all like, oh, I think you found the one.
Jeffrey
Oh, wow, that's heavy.
Zemi
But the weird thing was some of my friends start messaging me.
Brooke
Oh, no.
Zemi
And sending me links. Like, have you seen this?
Ryder Strong
It hit their algorithm.
Zemi
Yeah, it just happened a couple days ago. And I haven't talked to her about this. I mean, I'm okay with her posting some videos of us. Right. The issue I do have is I'm not cool with her using my actual name. Like, I have a pretty unique name.
Jeffrey
Sammy with a Z. Don't know a lot of those. Okay, so you're okay with your face and stuff being in the videos, just not actually saying who you are as a full name?
Zemi
Yeah, I enjoy hanging out with her, obviously, and I'm happy to help her make her videos, but I don't want my personal stuff being put out there and strangers looking me up and finding me.
Brooke
Okay, that makes sense, because people can DM you and harass you and stuff. If they have your username. And if you end up dumping her, you're going to be the villain. Yeah. You know, people online do weird stuff.
Jeffrey
Yeah. Okay, so I see you're uncomfortable. We're going to come back and we'll give you our advice on how to make this awkward Tuesday phone call to an influencer you met days ago and tell her, hey, here's how I think you should run your account.
Brooke
Okay, well, maybe we'll word it a little bit differently. Okay.
Jeffrey
We'll find the nicer way to say that with your awkward Tuesday phone call. Next.
Ryder Strong
It's awkward.
Brooke
It's Tuesday.
Ryder Strong
It's awkward Tuesday phone call.
Jeffrey
What a fun past 72 hours it's been for our listener, Zemi.
Zemi
Yeah.
Jeffrey
Who randomly met a social media influencer at a bakery while he was getting some trendy new pastry that they're selling. Found out her name's Addison, and also discovered that he's the new star of her Instagram account.
Brooke
They even shared a kiss.
Jeffrey
They did. Possibly on camera. And he hasn't talked to her about it yet, but he knows that she's posting all about him, and there's been references to. Maybe he's the one her followers are going crazy in.
Brooke
The comments say that. Yeah, the commenter said that, but she.
Jeffrey
Did not disagree with it.
Brooke
Well, you can't dislike comments.
Ryder Strong
A couple hundred comments, you're not gonna go through everyone.
Jeffrey
Still, it puts Zemi in a very awkward situation where he's clearly overwhelmed, but he's trying to be cool about it and says, you know what? I think I can handle that. It's just that she's using his actual name. Yes, very unique. So it wouldn't be hard for a stranger to find him and for things to get really weird.
Ryder Strong
I mean, his friends found him. Yes, it just popped in their algorithm.
Jeffrey
So there's the issue he wants to tell Addison, hey, I found your social media, and please don't use my name anymore. Okay, now we need some advice for how he can do this. Brooke, what do you think?
Brooke
Very easy. You need to spin it as a positive. Okay, Zemi, so, like, in the radio world, like, nicknames are big, right? There's Cabbage Patch or there's Cabana Boy.
Jeffrey
Yeah. Yeah.
Brooke
So you need to know and tell her. For branding, it would be way better if you were just known as Scone Boy.
Jeffrey
Oh.
Brooke
You know what I mean?
Jeffrey
What do you think of that? Scone Boy.
Zemi
That's not a bad idea. A nickname.
Brooke
Yeah.
Jeffrey
Yeah, I like it as a potential nickname, even for this segment.
Brooke
There you go, Jeff.
Jeffrey
Let's do the awkward Tuesday Scone boy call.
Brooke
It's not working. What are you saying?
Ryder Strong
You've been scold Brooke?
Jeffrey
You know what? I changed my mind. That was a terrible idea. I can't believe you suggested that. I'm sorry. Hopefully we get you something better from Jose. What do you think?
Ryder Strong
Well, I feel like I'm a little bit connected with Brooke. Right. We're gonna speak directly to what she wants so she can't say no.
Brooke
There we go.
Ryder Strong
If she wants to double her followers, she needs to turn you into the mystery man. Oh, so she posts about you, right? But she blurs your face, never says your name. People will eat that up, dude.
Jeffrey
Zemi, what do you think?
Zemi
It's kind of too late for that. But yeah, your face is already in the video.
Jeffrey
Delete it.
Ryder Strong
You can never delete the first video. No one's gonna remember that.
Jeffrey
Start wearing a bag over your head whenever you hang out so they can't see your face.
Ryder Strong
Oh, or make up a story. Mystery man beat up Zemi. Zemi is no longer in my life.
Brooke
Oh, now it's Scumbo.
Ryder Strong
It's Go boy mystery man.
Menelik Lumumba
Wow, look.
Jeffrey
Look at all that content you just provided.
Ryder Strong
We're killing it here.
Jeffrey
See, Zemi, this is why we're rated number one.
Brooke
Questionably weird advice and why she has more followers than.
Jeffrey
Yes, all of it's checking out. Does any of this feel helpful to you?
Zemi
Maybe.
Jeffrey
All right, we'll take that.
Ryder Strong
It's better than no.
Brooke
You got it, Sconey.
Jeffrey
That's a big thumbs up from us. So I'm just going to dial Addison's number and I'll let you make your awkward call. We're here to support you if you need it.
Menelik Lumumba
Okay.
Jeffrey
Good luck.
Zemi
Okay, thank you.
Jeffrey
You got this. Here we go.
Addison
Hello?
Zemi
Hey, you.
Addison
Hi.
Zemi
Who's this? It's Zemi.
Addison
Oh, hi. Sorry, I didn't recognize the number.
Zemi
Yeah, I'm calling from my work phone. I gotta work sometimes. I can't hang out with you every day.
Addison
Yeah, but you know you want to.
Zemi
Yeah, yeah, true.
Addison
So what's up?
Zemi
So remember when we met at the bakery? I mean, it was only three days ago, so I'm sure you remember. Yeah, well, you wanted. You wanted me to be in a video for social media with you, right?
Addison
I think you were really cute. Like a lot of people love that. You know, you got a lot of traction.
Zemi
Thanks. So, yeah, funny thing. I found your account and videos of us and I saw the comments and the Caption you did? Oh, my God.
Addison
Oh, gosh. I'm so embarrassed. Is it too much like. Oh, I mean, it's probably a lot. I'm sorry.
Zemi
No, no, no. Honestly, it's fine. It really doesn't bother me that much. Oh, my God, really? Yeah. Yeah. But, well, there is one thing I would like to ask, though.
Addison
What's that?
Zemi
I'd really rather that you don't use my actual name.
Addison
Wait, what do you mean?
Zemi
Like, maybe you could, you know, give me a different name or, like, a nickname, like Scone Boy or something, or. Or even just like, maybe use my first initial maybe.
Addison
Okay. Sorry. That's definitely not your decision.
Zemi
What do you mean it's not my decision? It's my name. That's my life you're putting out there.
Addison
Okay, so my social media is everything. It is huge. People are following along, and I've already said your name. Like, it's not like I can take that back. Like, you just have to deal with it.
Zemi
What? What are you really? Seriously? You wouldn't say that to somebody you really liked or cared about, right? I mean, why would you say that?
Addison
I mean, I did like you until this conversation. I mean, you telling me what to do with my creative content.
Zemi
Like, you know what? I don't. I don't want to do this. Then, you know, I was fine with the videos, but the privacy thing, you know, putting my name out there, if you can't respect that, then I don't know if I want to. I'm out. I don't. And that's a deal breaker, Addison.
Addison
Okay, I. I guess I'm just gonna have to post an update.
Zemi
What does that mean?
Addison
I think my followers are just gonna be really disappointed. They're gonna be super angry that you're a cheater.
Brooke
What?
Jeffrey
Cheater?
Zemi
What.
Addison
What are you.
Zemi
What are you talking about? I'm not a teaser. What do you mean?
Addison
Yeah, that's what I'm gonna do. My next post is just gonna be that I found out you were cheating on me. You a hole, and, oh, I'm gonna use your name.
Ryder Strong
That is messed up.
Brooke
Yeah.
Jeffrey
Did we make it worse?
Brooke
Yes.
Zemi
What are you talking about? I mean, what. What.
Addison
Is talking right now?
Jeffrey
These people are a radio show called Broken Jeffrey in kind of like the.
Brooke
OGs of influencers radio, you know?
Addison
Wait, was this on the radio? This whole thing?
Jeffrey
No. And a podcast it is currently. You're on the show right now on a segment called the Awkward Tuesday Phone Call. Yes. You're a star.
Addison
Seriously, Zemi.
Zemi
Yeah. Thank God. I did call into the radio because you're gonna set me up. You're gonna say something I didn't do. Call me cheater. Yeah, all because I wouldn't let you use my name in your videos. I mean, this is no different than what you were doing to me.
Addison
I'm just like, what is the point of this?
Brooke
Point is he was going to ask a rational question, which was just, hey, don't use my name anymore.
Jeffrey
Yeah, he needed a little help, a little bit of support from us because he felt overwhelmed, because he's not used to that realm that you're in, the whole influencer world.
Brooke
We thought it'd be, like, a fun conversation about Scone Boy.
Addison
All right, this is not. This is not okay. You absolutely do not have my permission to air this.
Ryder Strong
We don't even know your.
Menelik Lumumba
Your last.
Ryder Strong
Last name.
Addison
Like, wait, okay, you can't use my first name.
Zemi
Yes, we can.
Ryder Strong
Addison.
Jeffrey
Didn't you just.
Addison
You're gonna destroy my social media presence.
Brooke
Absolutely not.
Zemi
Can you guys believe this? I mean, you got her. You caught her. Listen to her. She's, like, a hypocrite.
Brooke
Yes. An influencer who's fake.
Jeffrey
What?
Brooke
That sucks, though. Like, you could actually destroy his life by doing stuff like that. You know, people are so cruel online.
Addison
I was just kidding. I wasn't gonna.
Brooke
She's a prank Instagram.
Jeffrey
Yes. She's probably better at those than we are, too.
Ryder Strong
Yeah, there's nothing that actually knows she's on the radio and other people are listening.
Brooke
Yeah, she got you, Zenny.
Jeffrey
That was a deep joke, Addison.
Ryder Strong
We gotta take notes.
Addison
I mean, it just proves I'm funnier than you guys.
Brooke
Wow.
Jeffrey
Oh, yes.
Brooke
That's a low bar to cross.
Ryder Strong
Yeah, we knew that before we called you.
Jeffrey
All right, so what does. I guess I feel like we need to go back to the whole point that we made this phone call was to ask you in the politest way possible, Addison, if you would consider not using Zemi's actual real name on your Instagram.
Addison
Yeah, it doesn't matter anymore. Like, I'm not going to see him. We'll just be friends. No.
Zemi
No, I don't need to be friends.
Addison
Thanks.
Jeffrey
Oh, wow.
Addison
I didn't, like, mean that. People just say it.
Ryder Strong
Oh, yeah, that's true.
Zemi
Okay.
Brooke
They say that they never mean it.
Jeffrey
So I kind of like her brand of humor. I might go follow her.
Brooke
Yeah.
Zemi
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Jeffrey
Welcome to the A building. I'm Hans Charles.
Menelik Lumumba
I'm Menelik Lumumba. It's 1969 Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr have both been assassinated. And black America was at a breaking point. Writing and protest broke out on an.
Jeffrey
Unprecedented scale in Atlanta, Georgia. At Martin's alma mater, Morehouse College, the students had their own protest. It featured two prominent figures in black history, Martin Luther King senior and a young student, Samuel L. Jackson.
Menelik Lumumba
To be in what we really thought was a revolution. I mean, people were dying.
Jeffrey
1968, the murder of Dr. King, which traumatized everyone. The FBI had a role in the.
Ryder Strong
Murder murder of a Black Panther leader in Chicago.
Menelik Lumumba
This story is about protest. It echoes in today's world far more than it should. And it will blow your mind.
Jeffrey
Listen to the a building on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Narrator (Betrayal Podcast)
In the middle of the night, Saskia awoke in a haze. Her husband Mike was on his laptop. What was on his screen would change Saskia's life forever.
Brooke
I said, I need you to tell me exactly what you're doing. And immediately the mask came off.
Addison
You're supposed to be safe. That's your home. That's your husband.
Brooke
To keep this secret for so many years. He's like a seasoned pro.
Narrator (Betrayal Podcast)
This is a story about the end of a marriage, but it's also the story of one woman who was done living in the dark.
Brooke
You're a dangerous person who preys on.
Ryder Strong
Vulnerable and trusting people.
Zemi
You're a predator. Michael Levengood.
Narrator (Betrayal Podcast)
Listen to Betrayal, Season 5 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Jeffrey
You know, we don't Normally announce segment MVPs on this show, and that's for good reason, because they award them all to me when I'm off the air. So all the MVPs are taken. And that's why we're pivoting to our MVB of the Awkward Tuesday most valuable Blonde. Today's MVB goes to Alexis for her comment. Who would have thought social media influencers could be fake?
Brooke
Yeah. Thank you.
Ryder Strong
That was really nice.
Jeffrey
So good. Good word. So shock.
Ryder Strong
But you know what?
Jeffrey
At least the Kardashians are still real.
Brooke
Obviously.
Jeffrey
Thank God.
Brooke
Yes. And everything about them.
Menelik Lumumba
Absolutely.
Jeffrey
So there is some people we can still look up to in this world. Not us, but we will help you with your life. Make sure to subscribe to our podcast, Brooke and Jeffrey, wherever you find it. Apple, Spotify, YouTube, all the places.
Brooke
I mean, you're not going to use this opportunity to shout out our Insta.
Jeffrey
We have one of those.
Zemi
How cool are we?
Jeffrey
Awesome. Instagram, Brooke and Jeffrey.
Date: February 3, 2026
Host: iHeartPodcasts
This episode of Brooke and Jeffrey’s "Second Date Update" features a classic Awkward Tuesday Phone Call with a modern twist on privacy and social media. The main theme: What happens when your personal life unexpectedly becomes content for someone else’s social media career? Listener Zemi finds himself suddenly viral after a chance meeting with Addison, a popular local influencer. Now, he’s seeking advice—and consent—for controlling his own digital footprint on someone else’s feed.
For more, follow Brooke and Jeffrey on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Memorable Parting Shot:
Brooke: “Who would have thought social media influencers could be fake?” (22:58)
Jeffrey: “At least the Kardashians are still real.” (23:05)