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Alice
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Paola Pedrosa
Welcome. My name is Paola Pedrosa, a medium and the host of the Ghost Therapy podcast, where it's not just about connecting with deceased loved ones. It's about learning through them and their new perspective. I think God sent me this gift so I can show it to the world. And most of all, I help people every single day. Listen to the Ghost Therapy podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Brooke
Hey, you found it. The home of the second date update. It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. And thanks for being here on the weekend with us.
Jeffrey
Seriously, welcome to our home.
Brooke
And I know we have a lot of new listeners from all over the world since we've been in the top 10 charts of podcasts. Yeah. So awesome. Which is awes and if you don't know, we actually are a full radio show. I know radio still exists and we are talking on it. And we do a brand new full hour episode every day on our main feed. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. And we just thought, you know, y'all seem to like relationship drama. We're kind of experts on it. And we do a lot of other segments, including this one. Awkward Tuesday phone call. Yes.
Dana
Love it.
Jeffrey
Juicy.
Brooke
Yes. Seriously, it's not necessarily always a romantic relationship with these, but it's always awkward. Yeah. And tricky. So sit back and enjoy your awkward Tuesday phone call on Sunday. Totally makes sense.
Questlove
Yeah.
Brooke
It starts right now.
Jeffrey
You have to sacrifice so much when you become a parent.
Brooke
Yeah.
Jeffrey
Your body, your sanity, your bathroom alone time.
Dana
Oh, man.
Brooke
Don't have that anymore.
Jeffrey
But it's all worth it to see your child happy.
Brooke
Oh, it's so true.
Jeffrey
Unless a one in a million type of situation happens like it did to our listener today. And now she's thinking, maybe my child can be a little less happy as long as I don't have to deal with this anymore.
Brooke
Yikes.
Jeffrey
That's what she's thinking. But for the sake of her kid, she is gonna put herself into a very uncomfortable spot. And we're gonna try to help in your brand new Awkward Tuesday phone call. Right now. It's awkward.
Brooke
It's Tuesday.
Jeffrey
It's Awkward Tuesday phone call. Imagine you accidentally run into somebody from your past, but not a good somebody like your old second grade teacher or your cool babysitter who taught you how to delete your browser history before mom.
Brooke
And dad got shout out. I mean, that is helpful information.
Jeffrey
No, this is a person who you don't want to run into again. You really don't got. And that actually happened to one of our listeners, Dana, who afterwards has emailed us for help because she does not know how to continue cleaning the grocery.
Brooke
Store in your hometown. Because that's where it's the worst.
Jeffrey
Let's find out.
Brooke
You can get away there. This sounds like something where she's not able to get away.
Jeffrey
Dana, welcome to the show.
Dana
Hi. Thanks for having me. I really appreciate it.
Brooke
Oh, my God. I'm having anxiety for you. Just the thought. I could think of two people that I do not ever want to run into the rest of my life.
Jeffrey
I've never seen Alexis smile this big because she knows drama is coming, so she's excited. Tell us what's going on. What made you email us?
Dana
Oh, my. I don't even know where to start. But just to Give you like a. I just recently moved my family into a new neighborhood, so we're fresh there.
Jeffrey
Okay, that's exciting.
Dana
Yeah, yeah, it is. But it's also, like, stressful because my daughter's already having to switch schools.
Brooke
Oh, for sure.
Dana
She's nervous about making new friends.
Jeffrey
Yeah, yeah.
Brooke
But just reminder that the new kid is always cool in the beginning.
Jeffrey
And also remind her, the friends that you make when you're young, they really don't last very long. You're eventually going to lose them all by adulthood. It's fine. I know one or, I don't know, maybe deliver that a nicer way to her.
Brooke
But okay.
Dana
Yeah. So on her first day of school, she's like, mommy, I made a new friend. And I'm like, awesome.
Jeffrey
Wow.
Brooke
Day one, great news.
Dana
Thank God.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Dana
So we went ahead and arranged a play date over at her new friend's house.
Brooke
Yeah.
Dana
And afterwards I go to pick her up and, you know, I go inside and I'm walking the entryway and I'm like, they had Legos displayed on there.
Brooke
Oh, that's cool.
Jeffrey
Like full built Lego sets on there.
Dana
Yeah. And I'm looking at the Legos and I recognize them. They're the same ones that my ex had on display nine years ago.
Jeffrey
Whoa.
Dana
Exact same. It was like a set. I knew that they were his because I've seen the exact set before on display at his apartment.
Brooke
Are you saying you're at your ex's house right now?
Dana
Then that's what I think it is. Because I'm looking around and I see a photo of him.
Brooke
It really was him.
Dana
Yep, it's him. And I'm like, you've got to be kidding me. My daughter's new best friend is the child of my ex.
Jeffrey
Oh, what a small world. Brooke's dreams have just come true.
Brooke
That would be terrible. I mean, especially, like most exes you're cool with, but there's always the one that you just don't ever want to see again. And it sounds like that's the person for you.
Dana
Yep. And you're right. It is the worst thing ever because it didn't end well with us.
Jeffrey
Oh, no.
Brooke
So wait, is he there when you pick her up? Do you see him?
Dana
No. Luckily, he was at work that day and I've only interacted with the mother.
Jeffrey
Oh, my God.
Brooke
Do you bring it up to the mom? Like, I mean, you have to, because isn't it gonna be even more awkward if you're like, you think it's less.
Jeffrey
Awkward to be like, oh, hey, nice to meet you. Our daughters are now friends, by the way. Me and your husband used to be a thing.
Brooke
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I don't have an answer. It's just all of that is, like, my worst nightmare.
Jeffrey
You walk up to her and go, oh, he downgr and then walk away. That would be savage.
Dana
I mean, that's why I'm calling you guys. I'm, like, conflicted, because my daughter's been asking me, like, mommy, mommy, let's go over there. And I'm like, what do I do?
Brooke
Oh, dang.
Dana
And now it's the worst scenario possible if this couldn't get any worse. Her friend is having a birthday party.
Brooke
Oh. Over at the house. And, you know, the dad will definitely be at the birthday party because it's, like, you could avoid him the other way.
Dana
And, you know, it says, like, happy hour, mingle hour for the adults. Like, they have a theme for adults to be there to have a good time too.
Jeffrey
Just drop her off.
Brooke
I mean, at least we throw a fun party. If this guy. If this ex was in love with you, do you think he has any idea that you're the mom of his daughter's new friend?
Dana
I doubt it.
Brooke
Like, if you look alike at all or, like, resemble. Or just his name. Right. The name. Or, like, I mean, honestly, if people are still in love with their exes, they stalk them on social media.
Jeffrey
Is that what you did?
Brooke
No, I'm not in love with exes.
Jeffrey
Okay.
Brooke
Yeah, I did that.
Jeffrey
She was just curious what they were doing.
Brooke
I mean, I've done it before. Yeah, not currently.
Dana
So I'm in a dilemma now because the birthday's coming up in a few days, and I need to have a conversation with the wife.
Brooke
Okay. I think that's the right thing to do.
Jeffrey
If I was you, I would move to another neighborhood and try again. How many exes can you have?
Brooke
Yeah. Did you unpack your boxes?
Dana
My daughter, she loves this new friend. So I really, like, need some help and advise on, like, what I'm gonna tell the wife and how it's gonna go.
Brooke
Oh, my God.
Jeffrey
So that's gonna be our job. Come up with some advice to give you. Alexis is smiling again.
Brooke
This is so awkward.
Jeffrey
Juicy, we're gonna figure out how you can talk to your ex's wife and just let her know that the two of you used to date, and now your kids are best friends, and you.
Brooke
Should be friends too.
Jeffrey
Oh, yeah. That's too much.
Brooke
Totally. So maybe I have to talk about Maybe everyone will be an adult about this.
Dana
I'm so nervous.
Jeffrey
Of course you want adult stuff to happen, Brooke. Anyway, let's try and do your awkward Tuesday phone call right after this. It's awkward.
Dana
It's Tuesday.
Jeffrey
It's awkward Tuesday phone call. As a parent, you want your child to make new friends.
Brooke
Yes, of course.
Jeffrey
But worst case scenario is if you find out their new friend is the daughter of your old example boyfriend. Oh, man.
Brooke
The one ex you didn't want to see every.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Brooke
Not the one you want to get back with.
Jeffrey
Yeah, like the bad one. Thank you for clarifying, because that's exactly what happened to our listener, Dana. And now the clock is ticking because there's a birthday party coming up where all of the adults and the parents are supposed to hang out and mingle with each other. And Dana is absolutely terrified of what to do.
Brooke
Yeah, because she hasn't even seen the ex yet. She's only interacted with the mom of the girl.
Jeffrey
We don't know if he knows.
Brooke
And a birthday party means that he's going to be there.
Jeffrey
Yeah, that is a good question, Dana. Like, what is the percentage that your ex knows this is already going on?
Dana
Honestly, I don't know. But if I had to guess, maybe 50%.
Brooke
50.
Jeffrey
Oh, 50.
Dana
50.
Brooke
50, 50.
Jeffrey
Those aren't good odds.
Dana
Gosh.
Jeffrey
Okay, well, Brooke, she needs some advice before we call this other mom and basically lay it all out there for her. What do you think Dana needs to keep in mind?
Brooke
Okay, this is the thing. You have to be so casual. You cannot act like it's a big deal.
Jeffrey
Yeah, so casual. Don't even wear pants for this conversation. Keep it laid back and chill.
Brooke
I'm saying, when you talk to her, you need to be like, oh, my God, so funny. I just realized I know your husband. What? A small, unbothered. Unbothered.
Jeffrey
Like, what do you think of that, Dana?
Brooke
No big deal.
Dana
Don't know if I could do that because I feel like I'll be lying and acting.
Brooke
Yeah, that's what I want you to do.
Jeffrey
Okay, let's give it a try. Give us your best nonchalant. Like, oh, weird. Me and your husband used to date.
Dana
Oh, what a small world.
Jeffrey
I believe it.
Brooke
Flirting.
Dana
Me and your husband used to date. Fun fact of the day.
Brooke
No, no, no, no.
Jeffrey
You sound a little bit excited about it.
Brooke
More like silly, funny coincidence story, not fun fact.
Dana
What a coinky dinky.
Brooke
Okay, maybe call it a feisty.
Jeffrey
We'll just take a little bit of nugget. A little nugget. From that and try and sprinkle.
Brooke
Good. And now I'm more stressed out anyway.
Jeffrey
Just do you. I think just be you and you're going to be good.
Dana
Oh, well, thank you.
Brooke
She could have done that without us, Jeff.
Jeffrey
Well, that was her fault for calling in. Stop recording. Just tell us how this goes later. So here we go. I'm going to dial the other mom and let you talk to her so you can let her know that you used to date her husband.
Dana
Oh, my. Well, pray for me. I'll pray for me.
Jeffrey
Okay, we will. As I'm dialing the number now. Good luck. Just busted a rosary out. We'll jump in if we feel like you need help.
Alice
Hello?
Dana
Oh, hi. Is this Alice?
Alice
Yes, it is. Who's this?
Dana
It's Delilah's mom, Dana.
Alice
Oh, hi. How are you?
Dana
Oh, I'm good. You know, just getting some things done around the house. How are you?
Alice
I'm good. I can't complain. Just getting ready for this. We have in a few days and I'm definitely not prepared.
Dana
Oh, my gosh. I know how that goes. Well, bless your heart.
Alice
What can I do for you? Is everything okay?
Dana
Yeah. So this is okay. Sorry, I'm trying. I wanted to call you and discuss something with you.
Alice
I had a few parents call about food allergies. Is that what this is about?
Dana
Oh, no, no. Thank God. She doesn't have any food allergies. But I'm calling you because I. This is kind like an awkward thing, so I don't know how to sugarcoat this, but it involved your husband.
Alice
Oh, my husband.
Dana
Yeah. So please, like, don't worry. He's not, like, cheating on you or anything. But I don't know if you know this or if he's told you, but the other day, you know, picking up Delilah and I realized after going to your house that I actually know your husband. And we used to date.
Alice
Yeah. And.
Dana
You don't seem surprised by this.
Alice
I mean, shoot, he's not looking to date now, if that's what you're wondering. We're married, so.
Dana
Okay, hold on, hold on. I'm married, too, so, you know, I don't know how much he's told you. We kind of had, like, a weird breakup, so I'm just feeling a little uncomfortable.
Alice
Do you feel this way because you still have feelings for him more? I'm genuinely confused.
Dana
No, no, no, no.
Alice
Or anyone would be uncomfortable. Like, I mean, he's told me all about you.
Dana
Okay, so you know he told you about this?
Alice
Yeah, he said it was A really. It was a really hard breakup. And when you got dumped, he didn't want to hurt you. Yeah, exactly. So, I mean, I understand. I'm a woman first. I totally get it.
Dana
No, he. First of all, I didn't get dumped. I dumped him.
Alice
Well, listen, honey, everybody gets dumped. It's okay. It's no need to be embarrassed. It's nothing to be embarrassed about.
Dana
Okay. What?
Alice
I mean, I haven't, but I can imagine the pain of getting dumped.
Dana
Wow. No. No, no, no, no. That's not what happened. Yeah.
Alice
And I know denial comes with it, and. No, you have nothing to worry about. Our daughters, they like each other. We can kind of leave it at that.
Dana
You need to understand, I dumped him. And, like, he was just awkward and resentful after that. And, like, this is not cool.
Alice
Okay, do you, like, see a therapist at all, or have you ever considered that? Because if not, like, you definitely. You definitely should.
Jeffrey
Oh, my God.
Dana
Okay. Wow. Wait.
Alice
What is all this?
Jeffrey
Yeah, that's the sound of an entire morning show being on this phone call with you because you're on the radio right now. Alex.
Brooke
Hey, Alice.
Alice
Oh, my God.
Jeffrey
We're Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. We're trying to help out Dana with this awkward conversation that she was trying to have with you about your daughters and, oh, my God, the dating history between them.
Alice
So she goes on the radio.
Brooke
Okay, well, she wanted advice, but that's not the advice we gave her.
Jeffrey
We were expecting you to be surprised by the news that Dana had a relationship in the past with your husband.
Brooke
Because it was definitely a surprise to Dana.
Alice
Oh, yeah, no, we. My husband and I talked already. We know what's going on. Like, she's someone of the past. And I just. I feel like she may still be a little hurt.
Dana
I'm not hurt, Alice. I'm just calling you to let you know that we were dating, just in case you didn't know. And then you say I was lying or hiding something from you. He was, like, a complete loser after.
Jeffrey
Okay.
Brooke
Okay.
Jeffrey
Well. Okay.
Brooke
Okay, here's the thing, Dana. It feels like Alice is maybe being a little bit more of the adult here, but he's lying.
Dana
They're lying. That's like. That doesn't make me feel comfortable to come over to their house, no matter.
Brooke
Who broke up with who. Yeah, you're a married woman. It was nine years ago. You found a husband. You had the kids. You did the dream.
Jeffrey
Because couples that lie together stay together. That's the saying.
Dana
Okay, so just now that you know Alice can We like move forward from this. What's the.
Alice
I mean, we already moved forward. If you are involving the radio and you have all these feelings and. And all these things going on in your mind, I just wanna make sure you're okay. Cause we're definitely okay over here.
Jeffrey
Okay. So, Dana, I guess ball's in your court here. Cause it sounds like Alice has known about the past relationship and has no concerns about it.
Alice
As long as he doesn't want my husband, I'm good to go.
Jeffrey
Okay, does not sound like she does. Dana, can you verbally acknowledge that you are not interested in Alice's husband?
Dana
I am not interested in your husband.
Jeffrey
Beautiful. So the kids can be friends. Yeah. So when the birthday party happens, are. Are you comfortable now going over there, Dana?
Dana
You know, I think for this first birthday party, I'm just going to drop her off and have you guys do. And maybe we can just have a one on one after or something and just go with the flow. I don't want to ruin that. I mean.
Alice
No, that's fine. I just want our girls to be able to. To play together and get to know one another. Like that's all that matters.
Brooke
Alice seems like the most chill, go with the flow mom ever.
Jeffrey
I know.
Brooke
Seriously, Dana, I think that maybe we should. Don't say therapy. Yeah, I'm kidding.
Jeffrey
I think it's a good chance for you to go over to the house for the birthday party. You can be the better person. Walk in there, write a note and put it under the husband's pillow saying, just to be clear, I broke up with you just so we're straight.
Dana
No, I don't want to be petty, but that is a good idea.
Jeffrey
Oh, okay. Sticky notes. They're nice and small. He won't see them until he goes to bed.
Brooke
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
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In the "Awkward Tuesday: Ex-Expectations" episode of Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update, hosts Brooke and Jeffrey tackle a particularly tricky listener scenario involving past relationships and new friendships formed through their children. The segment delves deep into the complexities of navigating social interactions when ex-partners unexpectedly re-enter one's life.
The episode centers around Dana, a listener who reaches out for advice after a series of uncomfortable events unfold following her family's move to a new neighborhood. Dana's primary concern arises when her daughter befriends the child of Dana's ex-boyfriend, reigniting unresolved tensions and potential confrontations.
Dana's Story:
Relocation Stress: Dana shares, "I just recently moved my family into a new neighborhood, so we're fresh there. But it's also stressful because my daughter's already having to switch schools. She's nervous about making new friends." [(05:01)]
Unexpected Encounter: During a playdate, Dana notices familiar Legos at her daughter's friend's house, instantly recognizing them as her ex's collection from years ago. She exclaims, "It was like a set. I knew that they were his because I've seen the exact set before on display at his apartment." [(06:08)]
Realization: Dana confirms her worst fears upon seeing a photo of her ex, "Yep. It's him. And I'm like, you've got to be kidding me. My daughter's new best friend is the child of my ex." [(06:36)]
Brooke and Jeffrey empathize with Dana's predicament, acknowledging the emotional turmoil that arises from such unexpected encounters.
Brooke: "That's terrible. I mean, especially, like most exes you're cool with, but there's always the one that you just don't ever want to see again." [(06:41)]
Jeffrey: Highlights the awkwardness of the situation, "Awkward to be like, oh, hey, nice to meet you. Our daughters are now friends, by the way. Me and your husband used to be a thing." [(07:15)]
Dana is apprehensive about addressing the situation, especially with an upcoming birthday party where her ex is likely to be present. She expresses anxiety over how to communicate her past relationship without causing further discomfort.
Dana: "I'm calling you guys because I'm, like, conflicted, because my daughter's been asking me, like, mommy, mommy, let's go over there. And I'm like, what do I do?" [(07:41)]
Brooke and Jeffrey: Offer strategies to approach the conversation casually, suggesting she maintain a nonchalant demeanor to minimize awkwardness.
Brooke: "You need to be so casual. You cannot act like it's a big deal." [(10:50)]
Jeffrey: Adds humorously, "Don't even wear pants for this conversation. Keep it laid back and chill." [(10:58)]
Dana attempts to follow the hosts' advice by initiating a phone call to Alice, the mother of her daughter's new friend. The conversation initially seems hopeful but quickly spirals into misunderstanding and heightened tension.
Key Exchanges:
Dana: Attempts to introduce herself and explain the past relationship. "I wanted to call you and discuss something with you. It involved your husband." [(13:21)]
Alice's Confusion: Responds uncertainly, leading to further complications. "Do you feel this way because you still have feelings for him more? I'm genuinely confused." [(14:26)]
Dana Clarifies: "No, no, no, no. That's not what happened." [(15:12)]
Alice's Concern: Suggests professional help. "Do you, like, see a therapist at all, or have you ever considered that?" [(15:30)]
Broadcast Intrusion: The live call is inadvertently shared on the radio, escalating the awkwardness. "What is all this? That's the sound of an entire morning show being on this phone call with you because you're on the radio right now." [(15:44)]
Despite the initial chaos, Brooke and Jeffrey guide Dana through understanding Alice's perspective and the importance of maintaining composure for the sake of their children's friendship.
Alice's Assurance: "Our daughters, they like each other. We can kind of leave it at that." [(16:02)]
Dana's Acceptance: Recognizes the need to move past the awkwardness. "I am not interested in your husband." [(17:40)]
Final Advice: Jeffrey suggests Dana attend the birthday party to set things straight, emphasizing personal growth and better handling of such situations in the future.
The episode effectively showcases the delicate balance between personal history and present relationships, especially when intertwined through familial connections. Brooke and Jeffrey provide practical advice infused with humor, helping listeners navigate their own "awkward Tuesdays" with grace and understanding.
Notable Quotes:
This detailed exploration of Dana's situation offers listeners valuable insights into managing unexpected encounters with ex-partners, emphasizing the importance of communication, self-assurance, and prioritizing children's friendships over past romantic entanglements.