Awkward Tuesday: Knock Off No No

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Episode: Awkward Tuesday - Knock Off No No (Dec 9, 2025, iHeartPodcasts)

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Main Theme

This episode centers on trust and deception within relationships, sparked by an awkward and potentially relationship-defining phone call. Listener Farrah discovers that the designer handbags her boyfriend Ramon has gifted her over their three-year relationship are, in fact, knock-offs. Hurt and embarrassed, Farrah enlists Brooke, Jeffrey, Alexis, and the morning show team to help her confront Ramon live, aiming to get answers and clarity about his deception (and maybe the state of their relationship).

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Introducing Farrah's Dilemma

• Farrah’s Background: For three years, Farrah’s boyfriend Ramon has gifted her luxury designer handbags each Christmas. The couple lives together and, until now, Farrah believed her relationship was ideal.
  • "I thought we had the perfect relationship and...that he loved me and everything..." – Farrah (05:49)
• The Discovery: The strap on one of Farrah’s “Louis Vuitton” bags breaks. When she takes it in for repair, the store informs her it’s a counterfeit.
  • "They’re like, 'This is fake.' ...I felt like just humiliated and it was embarrassing." – Farrah (07:00, 07:48)
• Emotional Fallout: Farrah feels betrayed and humiliated, especially since the luxury gifts had become a significant part of the couple’s gift-giving tradition and her social persona.

2. Setting Up the Call

• Seeking Advice: The hosts weigh in on how to probe Ramon’s motives—was he scammed himself or knowingly deceptive?
  • Jeffrey suggests laying a "trap": "My bestie has been dying to find the same bag that I have. She can’t find it anywhere. Where did you get this?" (11:43)
• Intentions: Farrah is torn between anger and heartbreak but wants to confront Ramon to get to the truth. The team prepares Farrah to approach the conversation directly but also to listen for explanations.

3. The Awkward Tuesday Phone Call ([12:53]–[19:54])

Initiating the Question:

• Farrah, slightly nervous, asks Ramon where he bought her designer bag, using their friend Georgia as a pretext.
• Ramon’s evasive, repeats “downtown” as his answer, clearly avoiding specifics.
  • "Like downtown, you know, like..." – Ramon (14:09)
  • "You keep saying downtown…can you be more specific?" – Farrah (14:00)

Confrontation:

• Farrah directly says the bag is fake; the hosts and Ramon react in real time.
  • "Let me make it really clear for you...I think I know why you don’t remember...because it’s fake." – Farrah (14:14)
  • "Oh babe, come on. You’re talking craziness. Come on. What are you talking about?" – Ramon (14:31)
• Ramon tries to sidestep, suggesting maybe a new store employee was mistaken and offers to "take care of it."
• Farrah explains specifics about serial numbers and store confirmation—no more denial possible for Ramon.
  • "She showed me the serial number and it was like, fake. It, like, didn’t show up in the system...and there were so many other things." – Farrah (15:02)

Ramon’s Defense and a Shocking Twist:

• Ramon leans on his love—argues it’s the thought and feeling behind the gift that matters, not the authenticity.
  • "No matter where I got it, how I got it, who made it, who didn’t, it was all given to you with a lot of love from me." – Ramon (15:21)
• Unexpectedly, Ramon launches into a marriage proposal, flustering everyone.
  • "You know what? Now that we’re in this conversation, I’m gonn—I'm gonna say it. Will you marry me?" – Ramon (16:07)
  • Hosts react: "Not the time." – Jeffrey (16:09)
  • "This is not the right moment." – Brooke (16:18)
• Ramon is told he’s live on radio; he doubles down on his feelings, says he has a ring ("from downtown," humorously).
  • "I got the ring for us, you know, downtown..." – Ramon (17:33)

Truth Emerges:

• Ramon confesses to feeling significant financial pressure to deliver extravagance despite not making much money.
  • "The truth is, I don’t make a lot of money, okay?...Sometimes I want to...deliver all the way. Sometimes gotta do some things here and there to make it happen." – Ramon (17:59)
• Farrah sets boundaries: She wants honesty and asserts that, fake or not, she will not accept a counterfeit ring for an engagement.
  • "If you ever propose to me with a fake ring, I’m not putting that on my finger." – Farrah (19:30)
• Ramon accepts but downplays importance of "real" vs. "fake."

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On Betrayal and Trust

• "Lying might be the third most distrustful thing you can do after cheating and candy stealing." – Brooke (05:26)
• "I thought we had the perfect relationship..." – Farrah (05:49)

Comedy Amidst Conflict

• "If you buy it out of the trunk of a car, how could you guess that it's not real?" – Jeffrey (09:09)
• "My job. I don't make a lot of money, okay? And I want to deliver, you know?" – Ramon (17:59)

On Authenticity vs. Genuine Emotion

• "Our love is real. I mean, now we're going with material stuff?" – Ramon (15:49)
• "If you ever propose to me with a fake ring, I'm not putting that on my finger." – Farrah (19:30)

On Proposals at the Worst Time

• _"This is not the right moment." – Alexis (16:20)
• "You said what you had to say. We need to hear from Farrah though..."_ – Brooke (19:01)

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Important Segment Timestamps

• Farrah's Discovery – [07:00-08:11]
• Advice from Hosts (Laying a Trap) – [11:43-12:21]
• Start of the Call to Ramon – [12:53]
• Direct Confrontation – [14:14-15:41]
• Unexpected Proposal – [16:07]
• Ramon’s Admission about Finances – [17:59]
• Farrah's Boundary (No Fake Rings) – [19:30]

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The Aftermath & Takeaways

Hosts’ Reflections ([22:19-23:32])

• Communication Gaps: The group notes that while the couple seems to genuinely love each other, the conflict underlines serious communication issues.
  • "Honestly…sounds like they really love each other. It’s just maybe their communication was not awesome." – Jeffrey (22:27)
• Lessons for Listeners: The episode concludes humorously that skepticism—even regarding small things like Starbucks orders—is key for a healthy relationship.
  • "Skepticism is the key to a healthy relationship." – Brooke (23:21)

Farrah and Ramon’s Future:

• Farrah asserts: honesty is a must if they are to move forward as a couple.
• Despite the awkwardness and Ramon’s ill-timed proposal, there's hope for better communication and authenticity in their relationship—genuine, not just designer.

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Transcript

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[Ramon]

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[Jeffrey]

I cannot wait to hear if our listeners would be as upset as this woman is. Right? Yeah, yeah. We got a brand new awkward Tuesday phone call today. Welcome to the Second Date Podcast and we love to hear in the comments, how you would react if you were in her position. Because, yeah, I don't know that I would be as mad. I don't know. But I have different priorities, so maybe that's what it is. A little different. Yeah. A little cheaper. So you'll understand in just a second. But first, comments. What do you see? Alexis? Yeah. Coco said, I grew up with my parents listening to you in the car and now here I am listening to you at work. This show practically raised me.

[Alexis]

I think the next step in your evolution is being on the show.

[Jeffrey]

I'm just so proud. Aren't you?

[Alexis]

Yay.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

We have called you a job. She has a job. She's proud.

[Ramon]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

All right, Well, I just feel old. All right, here we go. Your brand new awkward Tuesday phone call starts right now.

[Brooke]

What do you do if you get scammed?

[Jeffrey]

Oh, goodness.

[Brooke]

Like Jose, did you demand your money back after buying all those discounted online vegan pregnancy vitamins?

[Alexis]

Actually, no. I gave some to the girls in the studio.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Alexis]

Yeah, Ashley editor. Ashley got him.

[Brooke]

That's fair. Or Alexis, did you hire a lawyer to sue whoever did that to your hair?

[Jeffrey]

Tiffany is great. I would never sue her.

[Brooke]

Oh, you. You like the way your hair looks?

[Jeffrey]

Wanted it that way. Yeah, I use expensive shampoo.

[Brooke]

Hey, you know what? Good for you.

[Jeffrey]

That was shiny.

[Alexis]

It looks shiny.

[Brooke]

Luckily, the woman on the phone today is more much braver than all of us. Cuz she's ready to confront the person who's been scamming her for the past three years. The only problem, it also happens to be her boyfriend.

[Jeffrey]

Yikes.

[Brooke]

Yeah, you heard that right. It's your brand new awkward Tuesday phone call. Next.

It's awkward.

[Jeffrey]

It's Tuesday.

[Brooke]

It's awkward Tuesday phone call. Do you trust Your significant other 100%? It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Like Brooke, I have a question.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Okay.

[Brooke]

What would your husband Michael have to do to completely break your trust? Oh, I mean, obviously. Like, the worst thing would be cheating.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, that'd be pretty bad actually.

[Brooke]

Well, for you though, maybe if he found your secret candy stash and ate one Reese's cup, that would be the worst.

[Jeffrey]

You don't know my husband. If you think he can only eat one Reese's cup out of a stash, he will literally annihilate the entire thing.

[Brooke]

Okay, so that's definitely number one. Cheating is a close second to stealing candy.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, I trust him in the cheating stuff. Anything else is questionable?

[Brooke]

Yeah, I bring it up.

[Alexis]

One of my Reese's.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

I bet.

[Brooke]

I bet he Would I bring it up, though? Because one of our listeners, Farah, says her boyfriend just shattered her trust.

[Jeffrey]

Oh.

[Brooke]

He wasn't unfaithful, but she did catch him in a lie.

[Ramon]

Oh.

[Brooke]

And lying might be the thing. Third most distrustful thing you can do after cheating and candy stealing. Obviously, we need to hear the whole story first, though. So, Farah, welcome to the show.

[Farrah]

Hey.

[Jeffrey]

You sound so down. I know.

[Brooke]

I'm sorry to hear that your boyfriend lied, but maybe you could give us the full rundown so we can get up to speed, know where you're at.

[Farrah]

Okay. Well, God, I. I guess I. I thought we had the perfect relationship, and, you know, that he left me and everything, but. I don't know. Apparent.

[Jeffrey]

What, you don't even think he loves you now after this? Whoa.

[Ramon]

Well.

[Farrah]

I don't know. I don't know.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

What's his name, by the way?

[Farrah]

Ramon.

[Ramon]

Oh.

[Brooke]

Is that really important?

[Jeffrey]

It is.

[Farrah]

I guess it is.

[Brooke]

How long have you and Ramon been together?

[Farrah]

About three years.

[Jeffrey]

Are you living together?

[Farrah]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Okay. Okay. Deep in.

[Brooke]

So what happened? What was the lie that you caught him in?

[Farrah]

So every Christmas, he gets me, like, a designer handbag.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, okay. Ramon.

[Brooke]

Oh, my goodness.

[Farrah]

A little Louis Vuitton, a little Chanel, you know, all that stuff.

[Alexis]

Wow.

[Farrah]

Yeah. I felt, like, so spoiled and everything, and. It was great.

[Brooke]

Yeah. I mean, whatever he did wrong, I feel like you should forgive him for it just based on that.

[Jeffrey]

So is that honeymoon face over? Is that what you're upset about? Yeah. No bag this year?

[Farrah]

Yeah, I'm getting there.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, you're serious.

[Brooke]

What happened? What? You said there was a lie.

[Farrah]

Yeah. Okay. So one of my bags, one of the Louis Vuittons, the strap broke, and, you know, I. I didn't really think anything of it, so I just took it to, like, one of the stores, and then they were like, we can't fix this. I'm like, what do you mean, you can't fix it? And they're like, this is fake.

[Ramon]

Wait, it's fake?

[Alexis]

I didn't see that coming.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, I didn't really.

[Alexis]

She was gonna buy a new one. Like, oh, now he has to buy her another five.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, but think about it. It's a good fake. That's what I was gonna say. You didn't know if it tricked you.

[Farrah]

I'm. I'm like, I couldn't even believe it. I'm like, no. What do you mean it's fake? It's. Obviously. It's not fake. It's real. Like, that's embarrassing to be Honest. And then I finally did believe it because they told me, like, the signs, like the serial number. And.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Farrah]

Yeah, I felt like, just humiliated and it was embarrassing.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. Here's my question. When he gifts it to you, is there a big discussion about how much it costs and where he got it from?

[Farrah]

He made it very clear that it was authentic and he just took the credit for it. He's like, yeah, well, anything for my girl. I'm like, really? Anything.

[Jeffrey]

I mean, I can see where that would be hard.

[Brooke]

Yeah. So have you, like, actually talked to your boyfriend about this? Tell him that, you know, that he lied?

[Farrah]

Not. Yeah, I. I mean, I had to tell somebody. So I. I told like one of my besties, and she was like, maybe even more horrified than me. And then she got me riled up.

And then he's like, if he really let me, he wouldn't trick me. And I'm like, you know what? Actually, you're right. There's no way he didn't know. I just like, I'm so freaking pissed off right now and. And I. I gotta talk to him about it, but I don't know how.

[Jeffrey]

So, okay, if he really tough. If he would have given you the bag and told you that it was a faux designer, would you have been okay with that?

[Farrah]

I mean, I guess.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, that's a no. Yeah, I'm just weird.

[Alexis]

What if he got scammed?

[Brooke]

That's totally possible.

[Alexis]

Let's hope, right?

[Brooke]

Maybe somebody told him that they were real. And yeah, we seem to know if it's fake or not.

[Jeffrey]

Either way, when you buy it out of a trunk of a car, how could you guess that it's not real? Hey, what time I bought Uggs on Facebook? Marketplace and those fake. Yeah, tough times. What is done? I didn't know the car was a.

[Brooke]

Mercedes, so I have to trust that, but. Okay. So you want our help? It sounds like confronting your boyfriend for the first time.

[Farrah]

Yeah, I mean, I. I need help confronting him and I need help just like, what am I going to do with this?

[Jeffrey]

Are you open to hearing his explanation?

[Farrah]

He better have a good one.

[Brooke]

And after we make the awkward Tuesday phone call, are you open to selling those handbag to Alexis at a discounted rate?

[Jeffrey]

I think I'm going to need more than a discount. I might need free.

[Farrah]

We'll see.

[Brooke]

That's fine. Well, we're going to the real one. We'll think of some good advice to give you before we let you call your boyfriend to confront him to ask why he tried to lie to you. And give you fake designer handbags.

[Alexis]

I already feel bad for this guy. He's about to get a phone call.

[Brooke]

Or maybe he doesn't even realize they were fakes. Yeah, we'll try and figure it out with your awkward Tuesday phone call right after this.

[Farrah]

Thanks, guys.

[Brooke]

It's awkward.

[Jeffrey]

It's Tuesday.

[Brooke]

It's awkward Tuesday phone call. It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. We're talking to our listener Farrah, who says one of her favorite things in the world is getting a designer handbag from her boyfriend Ramon. Every year for the holidays just hits.

[Jeffrey]

Different when you hear this music with it, too.

[Alexis]

It really does, actually.

[Brooke]

But one of her least favorite things is finding out three Christmases in that at least one of those designer bags was a fake.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, no.

[Brooke]

And possibly all the other ones, too.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

Meanwhile, Ramon, he's been taking credit and accepting praise for being such a great boyfriend for all these years, for all of his generosity. And that realization has made Farah question the entire relationship.

[Alexis]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Like, what else is he faking? Yeah.

[Brooke]

Is her boyfriend really trustworthy, or has he just been trying to deceive her this entire time? She has not spoken to him about it yet, and that's why she wants our help. Farrah, does all that sound correct? Are we missing anything from the story?

[Farrah]

I think that's about right.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

I like how she started sad and then just got more angry. Yeah, she told it.

[Brooke]

Well, maybe you'll feel a little bit better after we get you some advice here. Brooke, what do you think? What's your advice?

[Jeffrey]

I mean, I think that's true, right? But I think that there's a way to know whether he accidentally got scammed or not.

[Brooke]

Oh, really?

[Jeffrey]

And that's by saying, oh, my God, my bestie has been dying to find the same bag that I have. She can't find it anywhere. Where did you get this? And if he says, like, ebay. Teemu. Yeah, you know, Facebook, Marketplace, back of a bowling alley. Then you'll know that he got scammed.

[Farrah]

Hey.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, right?

[Brooke]

There's gotta be something. Somebody selling Hermes bags legitimately behind a bowling alley.

[Jeffrey]

But if he says the Birkin store. I don't even know if those exist. He can't just walk on in there. He's got to get invited.

[Alexis]

Yeah, well, there's a waiting list.

[Jeffrey]

If he says that, then you know he's lying.

[Brooke]

I do like the idea of laying a trap for him that he'll just walk in. Good.

[Jeffrey]

Trap. Brooke.

[Farrah]

I knew there was a reason I trusted you guys.

[Brooke]

Sarah, in the radio business. We are number one in laying traps.

[Jeffrey]

How do we get our listeners to stay?

[Brooke]

That's right. So, okay, you got all the ammunition that you need. We're gonna step away, dial your boyfriend's number and let you make your awkward Tuesday phone call. You ready?

[Farrah]

Yeah, I'm ready, I guess.

[Brooke]

All right, you got this. Here we go. Nervous?

[Ramon]

Hello?

[Farrah]

Hi.

[Ramon]

Hey, where are you calling me from? There's, like, another number here. I don't.

[Farrah]

Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it.

[Ramon]

I didn't recognize the number. I was hardly was going to pick it up. I didn't know it was you, but I'd love to hear your voice. What's up, mamita? How are you?

[Farrah]

I just. I had a quick question about, you know. So Georgia, she, like, loves my new bag, and she wants to get the same one for her sister. And she wants to know, where did you get my bag?

[Ramon]

Well, you. You mean she wants to buy the same bag? The. The bag you have?

[Farrah]

Yeah. She's like, this is the perfect bag.

[Ramon]

Oh, I mean, well, of course it is. It's the same one I got for you. So. Yeah.

[Farrah]

Okay. Well, where. Where'd you get it?

[Ramon]

Oh, yeah, I got Downtown, babe. That's why I usually get my stuff downtown.

[Farrah]

Okay. Like, their Downtown store. Like the official one?

[Ramon]

Yeah, like downtown, you know, like.

[Farrah]

Yeah, okay, you keep saying downtown. You've said it, like, four times now. Can you be more specific?

[Ramon]

Like, downtown, the store, you know. You know the store.

[Farrah]

Oh, my God. You just said it again.

Let me make it, like, really clear for you, really clear and simple, because obviously you need that. I think I know why you don't remember.

[Ramon]

Yeah, what do you mean? What do you mean, babe?

[Farrah]

Basically, because it's fake.

[Ramon]

Oh, babe, come on. You're talking craziness. Come on. What are you talking about?

[Farrah]

Oh, I'm talking crazy now.

[Ramon]

Yeah, come on.

[Farrah]

I went there the other day. My strap broke. Like, I went there to go get it fixed.

[Ramon]

Well, why would you do that? Why didn't you tell me? I would have taken care of it, babe.

[Farrah]

Because I didn't think it was that big a deal, and I was already near downtown.

[Ramon]

Maybe it was a new employee. Babe, come on. I mean, give me the bag. Look, I'll go get the bag and I'll go take care of this.

[Farrah]

She showed me the serial number and it was, like, fake. It, like, didn't show up in the system. It was ridiculous. And there was so many other things, too, but I can't even begin to explain. And I don't even have to explain because it's this one's sake. Maybe the other ones are too. Geez, I don't know.

[Ramon]

All right, all right, all right. Mommy.

Mommy died.

No, but listen. All right, let's put it this way, okay? I'm crazy about you. No matter where I got it, how I got it, where I got it, who made it, who didn't make it, it was all given to you with a lot of love from me. You know, I'm madly in love with you, mami, tatulo sabe, you know, but you.

[Farrah]

I don't think you get it. You lied to me and you lied for like a long time. Do you even understand how embarrassing this is for me?

[Ramon]

Pero, mamita, our love is real. I mean, now we're going with material stuff. I mean, oh my God, are we.

[Farrah]

Gonna let like, material stuff like with you right now?

[Ramon]

All the magic that we have, you know, mi amor, you know? And you know what? Now that we're in this conversation, I'm gonn it. I'm gonna say it. Will you marry me?

[Malcolm Gladwell]

What?

What?

[Jeffrey]

Not the time.

[Ramon]

Okay? I mean, if you're gonna get into this conversation, that's how much I love you. Will you marry me, mommy?

[Jeffrey]

Dude, what is happening?

[Brooke]

This is not the right moment.

[Alexis]

This is awful.

[Jeffrey]

You're not even face to face. Ramon, wait.

[Ramon]

Yo, Miyamon, who. Who's all these people on the left.

[Farrah]

Right here?

[Brooke]

I think Ramon is noticing that there's a whole bunch of other voices on this phone call because Ramon on the radio right now on a show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

[Farrah]

Yikes.

[Brooke]

Yo.

[Ramon]

Oh, man. Why am I on the phone? Why am I.

[Jeffrey]

She needed help. She needed help, okay?

[Farrah]

I called them so that they could help me with this because I had a feeling you were gonna just like, tell me a bunch of bull.

[Ramon]

Oh, mommy. But what are you talking about? Bullshit. I mean, I got you a bag. I mean, you could physically touch it and you really have a bag.

[Farrah]

Yeah, but you acted like it was real the whole time. You took all the credit.

[Ramon]

I was like, I mean, don't you.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Put things in it?

[Ramon]

It's a bag.

[Alexis]

Like the designer designed it.

[Ramon]

Real, mamita. You know what?

[Farrah]

Let's forgetting that you automatically talking at the same time.

[Jeffrey]

We need to slow down, Ramon, let's.

[Brooke]

Put the bag aside. What about the marriage proposal? Was that real?

[Ramon]

Of course it's real. I already got the ring for us and everything too.

[Brooke]

Wow, you did?

[Ramon]

Yeah, I got the ring for Us, you know, downtown.

[Alexis]

He probably did, to be honest.

[Ramon]

I mean, where. Where. When do you go and ask, oh, where did you get the ring? Did you get it here, you got it there? I mean, what is all these. All these questions? It doesn't matter where you got it, how you got it. It's the intention of giving it.

[Brooke]

Wait, man, you're smooth, dude.

[Jeffrey]

Are you feeling, like, a lot of pressure maybe to, like, spend more than you have and.

[Ramon]

All right, the truth is, I don't make a lot of money, okay? My job. I don't make a lot of money, okay? And I want to deliver, you know? And then sometimes I want. I want to go ahead and deliver all the way. And sometimes got to do some things here and there to make it happen.

[Farrah]

And you didn't think to maybe, I don't know, say that.

[Jeffrey]

But he did just say that. It just took a minute.

[Farrah]

It took him being interrogated and being exposed for his lies.

[Brooke]

Still, I mean, I think he does feel a little bit exposed right now. Ramon, I think that that was a very, very sweet thing for you to say, and it makes me want. Will you marry me?

Because I also have a ring.

[Ramon]

Guys. I mean, I really, really, really love this girl.

[Jeffrey]

Please. I mean, this could be you guys. This could be a really relationship foundation moment for you, too, you know? Like, maybe you're finally going to open up and be vulnerable with each other.

[Ramon]

Yeah. Yeah. Who's this girl who's talking right now?

[Alexis]

That's Brooke.

[Ramon]

You're the best. Guys, listen to Brooke, okay? Don't listen to these guys. These guys are troublemakers.

[Brooke]

Got you. Ramon. You. You said what you had to say. We need to hear from Farrah, though, because she's been staying pretty quiet. Farrah, where's your head at right now?

[Farrah]

I am going to keep it real simple. I know you love me.

[Ramon]

Of course I do.

[Farrah]

But if we're going to have a future together, you need to stop pulling this.

[Ramon]

Okay? I mean, I was just.

[Farrah]

That's it. That's just. Period.

[Ramon]

Okay?

[Farrah]

And just so you know, if you ever propose to me with a fake ring, I. I'm not putting that on my finger.

[Alexis]

Oh, all right.

[Jeffrey]

And, you know, checking it, so be careful.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Farrah]

Yeah.

[Ramon]

Well, that's okay. And I don't know what you mean by fake or real Me, I'm already. Well, we'll talk about that later, okay?

[Jeffrey]

Lab grown is still considered real. Just saying.

[Alexis]

Here we go.

[Farrah]

We'll talk later anyway.

[Brooke]

Kevin, Hobie, Farrah does not agree with you there, bro. Look at Jeffrey in the morning.

[Ramon]

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[Jeffrey]

Hello.

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[Alexis]

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[Brooke]

Well, after all that, I think they're in a better place than when we started the call.

[Alexis]

I mean, I mean, everything's out in the open now.

[Jeffrey]

Okay. Honestly though, it sounds like they really love each other. It's just maybe their communication was not awesome.

[Brooke]

Yeah, totally, totally. She definitely seems like she is done with his generous gifts though going forward.

[Alexis]

It also makes me feel like it's one of those couples that have no idea what these others do or how much the other banks. Cuz she's like, yeah, but for three.

[Jeffrey]

Years like, and now she's finding out doesn't add up. You know she's not going to tell her girlfriends that it's all fake, though, right? No. Yeah, no, she's regretting that she already told one.

[Alexis]

Yeah, he just lost the Louis V certificate that comes with it.

[Ramon]

Oh, man.

[Brooke]

The whole relationship suffered. But it is probably a good lesson to anybody with a boyfriend if they get you any gift ever. Don't trust it. No, Jeff, even if they're buying you a Starbucks. Starbucks coffee. I'd go in skeptical.

[Alexis]

No, that's not.

[Brooke]

Who knows where that latte really came from? Downtown, probably.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, same Starbucks cup you keep using over and over again.

[Brooke]

Skepticism is the key to a healthy relationship. All right, all right, let's leave everybody with that message. That's your awkward Tuesday phone call. By the way, if you're listening, make sure you hit subscribe on our podcast.

[Alexis]

Yeah, we love you.

[Brooke]

That's the one thing you shouldn't be skeptical of.

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[Alexis]

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[Brooke]

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[Alexis]

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[Brooke]

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[Ramon]

We got y'.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

All.

[Brooke]

This is that classic HBCU vibe. Non stop action. The band is rocking and the crowd lit. Chance echoing drum beat Everybody showing that school pride. A game like this. Yeah, it calls for an ice cold Coca Cola.

[Ramon]

Ah.

[Brooke]

Crisp and refreshing. That's a game changer right there.

[Ramon]

Mmm.

[Brooke]

Yeah, that taste always hits the right note. Just like the band air halfway and just like that, we're back at it. Passionate fans, school colors everywhere. And an ice cold Coca Cola. That's a winning combo. No matter the sport, no matter the yard. Everybody knows fan work is thirsty work. So grab a Coca Cola and keep that HBCU pride going.

[Ramon]

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[Farrah]

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[Ramon]

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[Farrah]

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[Farrah]

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[Ramon]

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[Brooke]

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[Jeffrey]

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[Farrah]

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Look, Santa, the kids left you. Pepperidge Farm Cookies.

[Brooke]

Milano mint chocolate, so rich. Chessman butter cookies, so buttery. And Lindsay Raspberry. A holiday classic.

[Jeffrey]

These are fancy Santa.

[Brooke]

Fancy Santa. Fancy Santa.

[Jeffrey]

Designer cologne.

[Brooke]

Spritz Me.

[Jeffrey]

Vintage timepiece.

[Brooke]

Classy o'.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Clock.

[Jeffrey]

Gold chain with diamonds.

[Brooke]

Now that's fancy. Pepperidge Farm Cookies. Fancy a taste.