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Geico Gecko
And now for a bit of breaking news. Between your breaking news with me, the Geico Gecko, here are some things you ought to know today. People who switch their car insurance to geico save about $900 a year. Experts are calling that nice to know. Also, plants can hear when bees buzz. My ficus just heard that. And finally, animal experts have confirmed that goats have regional accents. I'm getting a hint of Irish there.
Brooke
It feels good to get good news. It feels good to gecko.
Michael Easter
2%, that's the number people who take the stairs when there is also an escalator available. I'm Michael Easter and On my podcast 2%, I break down the signs of mental toughness, fitness and building resilience in our strange modern world.
Unknown Motivational Speaker
Put yourself through some hardships and you will come out on the other side a happier, more fulfilled, healthier person.
Michael Easter
Listen to 2%. That's 2% on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Girlfriends Podcast Host
When a group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist, they take matters into their own hands.
Jose
I vowed I will be his last target.
Jeffrey
He is not going to get away with this.
Julie
He's going to get what he deserves. We always say that. Trust your girlfriends.
Girlfriends Podcast Host
Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.
Charlamagne Tha God
Peace to the planet. Charlamagne Tha God here. And listen, we are back. The Black Effect Podcast Festival is back in Atlanta on April 25th at Pullman Yard. And the full lineup is nuts. We got the Grits and Eggs podcast, Deontay Kyle and Big Ice Cup Cat. We got Club 520 with Jeff Teague and the gang. Don't call me White Girl. Mona will be there. Keep it positive, sweetie, with Crystal Renee. We got Reality with the King with Carlos K. And yes, drink champs will be in the building. Plus, you know we gonna have a lot of guests, so you need to join us. And we got the Black Effect Marketplace, the picture podcast and everything you expect from the Black Effect Podcast Festival. Tickets are on sale right now. Go get yours@blackffect.com podcast festival. Don't play yourself. Okay, pull up.
Nick Dickenpole Show Host
On paper. The three hosts of the Nick Dickenpole show are geniuses. We can explain how AI works centers, but there are certain things that we don't necessarily understand.
Brooke
Better version of play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Michael Easter
Yes, which. Which, by the way, wasn't Taylor Swift who said that for the first time? I actually, I thought it was. I got that Wrong.
Nick Dickenpole Show Host
But hey, no one's perfect. We're pretty close, though. Listen to the Nick, Dick and Paul show on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Jeffrey
Hey, it's your second date podcast. And if you're new to our podcast, welcome.
Unknown Female Co-host
Yay. Happy Tuesday.
Jeffrey
You might be a little confused. On Tuesdays, we actually don't do a second date. We do what's called Awkward Tuesday phone call, which can be between any two people. Right? It could be a mother and a son. It could be a co worker and a boss or whatever.
Jose
Also, if you're new here, I'm trying to make up something for the new people. We're naked. Oh, we're always naked all the time. And you're new.
Jeffrey
That's why we don't do these on video.
Unknown Female Co-host
Yeah, that's fine.
Brad
Good job.
Jeffrey
But, yeah, no, this is just an awkward call. We give our advice and try to help one of our listeners out, and it's always pretty funny, so hope you enjoy this. It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Brooke
Turning someone down without hurting their feelings. Yeah, that's almost impossible.
Jeffrey
Yeah, I think it is.
Brooke
But, man, we've all been really proud of Brooke and how she's been able to get over my rejection and soldier on bravely here.
Jose
She hasn't cried once.
Charlamagne Tha God
She's always smiling.
Brooke
So strong. Brooke. So let her be a beacon of hope for our listener on the line today.
Jose
You would never dare to.
Brooke
He needs help to gently turn someone down. The weird part, though, is the person he's turning down is kind of in his family.
Jeffrey
What?
Unknown Female Co-host
Wait, what? What?
Brooke
They're not like step siblings or blood related at all.
Jeffrey
Oh, thank God.
Brooke
But you're gonna understand why it's so weird and he needed our advice in your brand new Awkward Tuesday phone call. Next.
Charlamagne Tha God
It's awkward.
Unknown Female Co-host
It's Tuesday.
Charlamagne Tha God
It's awkward Tuesday phone call.
Brooke
We got a return caller to the show today.
Jeffrey
Oh, I always love that.
Brooke
Which officially makes him a friend of the show.
Jeffrey
That's right. Oh, that's why we're playing the song.
Brooke
Yeah. He has a friend.
Brad
Us.
Jeffrey
That's right.
Brooke
His name is Brad. The last time we talked to him was in a second date update where he was breaking up with his girlfriend in the middle of a flight so that he could shat up the cutie next to.
Unknown Female Co-host
You're back. I'm so surprised.
Jeffrey
Wait, were you breaking up with her via text? Am I remembering this right?
Brooke
That's right. Some might call that insensitive. Others might say that he's romantic and confident.
Jeffrey
I don't think anyone said that on the text board.
Brooke
Well, I see others. I don't know who that would be, but that move did not pan out for him. We couldn't get him a date. Luckily, Brad's not reaching out to us today for dating help.
Jeffrey
Oh, thank God. Because I think that's helpless.
Brooke
He needs assistance in a different part of his personal life. So let's talk to him. Brad, welcome back, man.
Brad
Hey, thanks, guys. Thanks for having me back.
Jeffrey
Yeah, I'm impressed because you took quite the. We'll say, ribbing on our show after you were on with us. Mostly from Brooke, but, you know, honestly,
Brad
like, what can I say? I got thick skin, so.
Jeffrey
Yeah, okay, that's good. That's good. That's a good sign.
Jose
Skin. I thought he said six kids.
Brooke
Like, what, since we last talked? Are we putting your six kids up for adoption today?
Brad
No, no, no, no. Oh, no. No kids.
Brooke
What do you need some help with today?
Brad
So I need some help. I need some. Honestly, some advice. I don't know how to handle a particular situation. Okay.
Jeffrey
Yeah. Work, friends, where we at?
Brad
Actually, a little bit of both. A little bit of work and family, really. So my brother, he owns a maintenance company.
Brooke
Okay.
Brad
And I've been working for that company. It's been like 10 years.
Jeffrey
Like, I've long been working out for 10 years.
Brad
Yeah, it's been going great. I mean, I get to work with my brother. I mean, he's the owner. You know, fight. It's all fine and dandy.
Brooke
It's not weird having the brother as your boss?
Brad
No, not really. Because he's laid back, kind of like I am. So it's all been. It works out swimmingly. No, not a problem at all.
Jeffrey
Okay.
Jose
Okay.
Julie
All right.
Brad
Until he met Julie.
Brooke
Oh, who's Julie?
Brad
So he got married about a year ago to Julie.
Brooke
Oh, what a jerk.
Jeffrey
Even how he says to Julie.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
Brooke
Why does your brother go and find a woman that he likes and marry her? That's horrible.
Brad
Well, that's fine. But, you know, once he gets married to her now, she becomes part of the family business. And that's where I have an issue.
Jeffrey
Why? What is Julie doing?
Brad
So she comes along, she helps, and she kind of like, dispatches or she runs the books in the back. She does, like, the odds and ends, stuff like that. But since he's, like, joined us about a year ago, she's constantly giving me crap. She's like, oh, you're late, or, oh, your uniform is. Is not you. Know, ironed out properly or. Oh, you're not cleaning this correctly.
Brooke
You didn't wear pants to work today.
Brad
There was one time, like, she literally was like, oh, I had checked. I was supposed to do some cleaning on the third and fourth floor, and she came and she's like, you know, I went night check, and the third and fourth floor haven't even been touched. And I know, I know that's wrong. Look, I'm not 100% sure about the third floor. I might have missed that.
Jeffrey
I'm not sure.
Brad
I definitely didn't skip both floors. I know I at least got one of them.
Jeffrey
Huh. It's something.
Unknown Female Co-host
Stuff a girlfriend would say to you if you had one right now. Right.
Jeffrey
Call you out. It sounds like she's trying to hold you accountable. I mean, but you think it's unfair.
Brad
I. Definitely unfair. And kind of back to that thing about sounds like a girlfriend. That's exactly where I'm getting at. I think she's just finding ways to try to interact with me, to talk with me, and maybe I think she's attracted to me.
Jose
Ask why, and you're immediately saying you think she likes you. So she's mad and mean.
Brad
I mean, you even said to yourself that it sounds like. Like a girlfriend or wife that would be nagging you. It's like that's kind of what she's going for.
Jose
That's true.
Jeffrey
It sounds to me like she's calling you lazy. Yeah. Like, you're not a good worker. I don't know how that translates. Is there other, like, hints?
Brooke
Has she ever made an advance on you before or, like, asked you out or done anything romantic?
Brad
Nothing romantic. Well, first of all, I'm not letting it happen.
Jeffrey
Oh, you're the one.
Brad
That's kind of the advice I wanted to get from you guys was like, how do I let her know nothing's ever gonna happen? I'm not interested. I don't want any part of this.
Unknown Female Co-host
But, like, shutting it down, there's other
Brad
avenues that she can do. If I'm not doing what I'm supposed to do, she can talk to my brother about it. My brother comes talk to me. But it's always, like, in my. Like, it's a ways to interact with me, to talk to me, to come see me. And that's why I'm like, no.
Jeffrey
And you don't have any history with her, like, pre your brother meeting?
Brad
Oh, no, no, no. Okay.
Jeffrey
This just feels like. I don't know that he's reading this, right?
Brooke
Yeah. I don't Normally agree with Brooke on topics like this, but we're not sure if you're connecting the dots quite the right way.
Jeffrey
Yeah, I think she's annoyed with you, bro, because you don't. You don't work hard.
Jose
Good work ethic. I don't want to call you out.
Brooke
I don't know you.
Jose
But wouldn't your boss act like that if you just weren't doing your job?
Brad
Well, I mean, like I said, I definitely get my job done. It may not be to Julie's standards.
Brooke
Okay.
Jeffrey
Okay.
Jose
You.
Brooke
Do you feel like she's coming after you unfairly, giving you like a harder time than any of the other employees that you work with?
Jeffrey
Just to connect 100 you just to flirt 100%.
Brooke
Oh.
Jeffrey
Have you mentioned this to your brother?
Brad
Oh, no, of course. No, no, no, of course not. I don't want to open up that can of worms at all.
Brooke
No, the mature thing to do is to confront his wife on the radio.
Jose
National radio.
Brad
I don't necessarily want to like, confront her. I just want to see how I can handle this in a polite way, really.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay.
Jeffrey
I'm just. I just need to be very clear. By handle this, you mean turn down what you're considering sexual.
Brad
I mean, that's what I think is happening. But look, there's. There's just a lot of tension here and I just needed to stop.
Jose
Well, we're gonna stop the tension. Jeff has to ask Brooke all the time to do that. Yeah.
Brooke
We're gonna have to come back and give you a little bit of advice on how to politely cut the tension between you and your sister in law at the place where you both work.
Brad
Exactly.
Girlfriends Podcast Host
Okay.
Brooke
Okay. Should be easy enough. We'll come back and do it in your awkward Tuesday phone call right after this. Hold on.
Charlamagne Tha God
It's awkward?
Unknown Female Co-host
It's Tuesday.
Charlamagne Tha God
It's awkward Tuesday.
Brooke
Ph workplaces. Those bubbling cesspools of romantic tension where the lines get blurred between professionalism and procreation.
Jeffrey
That made it like, even more unsexy.
Brooke
Oh, was that email reminder about getting my time card punched? Oh, a little too suggestive because that's how I read it.
Jose
It's literally a thing we ought to do.
Brooke
Yeah, if you say so. You're the boss. Well, that's exactly what's going on with our listener Brad today. Because turns out he works for his brother at a maintenance company. His brother got married about a year ago and sounds like his wife has taken over some of like the managerial duties in the past year for the family business. Of course, ever since Then she has totally had it out for Brad.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Brooke
Now he thinks it's because there could be some underlying feelings for him on her side. Not 100% sure if that's true, but I. We're going to try and help him find that out today.
Jose
He's the only one that's convinced of this. We are not.
Brooke
Well, Brad, between you and your brother, who do you think is better looking?
Brad
What I mean is that. That's not even a question. I mean, it's me.
Brooke
Okay, well, there's one point in Brad's favor, so you can't argue with that.
Jeffrey
I don't think that.
Charlamagne Tha God
That.
Jeffrey
I don't think the attractiveness is the issue here.
Brooke
What is the issue, bro?
Jeffrey
I just wouldn't bring up the sexual tension part of things, okay? I would just focus just on the tension.
Brad
Okay.
Jeffrey
Okay. So I think what happens a lot is that there can be a beef between two people and even adults. Like, we forget. Like, why don't we just go and say, hey, I feel like there's something negative going on between us. What's the tension about? And just open it up.
Brooke
What do you think, Brad? You like that?
Brad
I mean, it's a little total abrupt and right straight to the point.
Jose
You started saying, don't bring up the secret tension. And then you said, just say, hey, I feel tension.
Jeffrey
There's all sorts of different types of tension.
Brooke
She's saying.
Jeffrey
I mean, that's the problem is that men only think of sexual tension.
Brooke
Yeah, that's like 90% of our type of tension. We're not as complicated as women are. We don't get it. But, Jose, what do you think?
Jose
You need to lay the bait, bro. Put out the vibe on your end however you do that.
Brooke
I don't know how.
Jose
What your style is, but we all need to see her reaction.
Brooke
Jose's saying, like, lay a trap to see if she walks in. You're gonna give her the chance to actually hit on you.
Jose
Then we'll hear it.
Brooke
What do you think of that, Brad?
Brad
Okay, that might. Yeah, that might work.
Jeffrey
That is terrible advice, Brooke.
Brooke
I feel like you're skeptical that Brad is not a smooth talker.
Jeffrey
Can you recall when he was on the second date with us and he was texting to break up with a girlfriend?
Brooke
He had two different women both into him at the same time.
Jose
Yo, his cred does go down when she brings that up.
Jeffrey
I totally forgot. History is against him.
Julie
Yeah.
Jose
Darn it, Brook. It's like I just saw his, like, dating credit score, and I'm like, oh,
Brooke
yeah, Everybody's history isn't great. Look at the United States. If you're going to say, oh, the United States is perfect, you can't do that.
Jeffrey
I don't think anyone said that.
Jose
I will say it. The United States is perfect.
Jeffrey
Never.
Brooke
We've never made a mistake.
Jeffrey
Nice. Nice analogy.
Brooke
And neither has you, Brad. Okay? So we're all on your side no matter what. I promise.
Brad
Awesome.
Brooke
All right, Brad, I'm gonna dial. I'm gonna dial Julie's number. You gave it to us here. And we wish you all the luck. We'll be here in case you need a little bit of help. O.
Brad
All right, thanks.
Brooke
All right, here we go.
Julie
Hello?
Brad
Hey, Julie. Hey, it's me. Hello?
Julie
Hey, why are you. What number you. Why are you calling me? What's up?
Brad
No, anyway, sorry, I'm just calling because I think you have me scheduled tomorrow night for the. This is the Morton building, so. Yeah, I just want to let you know I'm going to take care of that and I'm going to make sure it's, like, done perfectly, like, just. Just for you.
Julie
Oh, you're calling me to tell me on my day off that you're going
Brad
to do your job? Yeah, but I know, like. I know, like, before you give me crap about, like, not cleaning certain floors or that I wasn't doing my job properly. So I'm just. Just letting you know, like, tomorrow night I'm gonna. I'm gonna go above and beyond building be late at night. So I know, like, nobody will be around. So I don't know if you want to, like, stop by and make sure I'm doing my work correctly, but.
Julie
What are you saying?
Brad
I mean, I'm. I'm just saying, like, I'll be in the Morton building, be late at night. Like, you know, just me alone, vacuuming, probably. You know, it's hello hot in there. Maybe. Maybe my shirt off. I don't.
Julie
Ew, gross. That's, like, a health code violation. What is wrong with you? This is because you can't keep your uniform clean. What is wrong with you? Dude?
Brad
I just. All right, look, look, look, look. There's been kind of some, like, tension between you and me, and I just. I don't know, I just wanted to clear the air and see what's going on and, like, what's the tension about?
Julie
You're ready for this conversation? You're prepared to hear what I have to say?
Brad
I mean, yeah, it's been ongoing for a while, so, yeah, just rip the bandit off. Like, tell me how you feel?
Julie
Of the 15 employees that we pay, we get more complaints about you and your work than all the other 14 combined.
Brad
Brother, that's not.
Julie
You are a disaster, creating work for the rest of us. And like my sweet husband has put up with your for far too long.
Brad
Well, I know that's not true. I mean, come on. I've been here for 10 years.
Julie
Like you were there for 10 years, but at the dinner table in my house. We're talking about letting you go.
Brad
Letting me go where? I've already been on vacation twice this year. Like you're not gonna make me go again. Oh, that was so painful. What?
Jeffrey
Oh, man, does this man not understand anything?
Julie
What is going on, Brad? What it.
Brad
What?
Brooke
Maybe we should step in and talk for Brad a little bit. Julie, you're on a radio show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning right now.
Julie
Oh, my Lord in heaven.
Jeffrey
I think you handled that really well. I do.
Brooke
We're doing something on the show called an awkward Tuesday phone call because we're trying to. Trying to help Brad with.
Brad
She's just laughing. She can't stop laughing.
Brooke
The tension that was happening at work was kind of stressful for him for the last while.
Julie
Yeah, tension.
Brad
Yeah.
Julie
Why did he call you?
Brad
Quit his job.
Brooke
It's just. It's an awkward situation because you're married to his brother and he didn't know
Jeffrey
how to handle you coming down on him so hard.
Brad
I don't know what's going on right now, but, Julie, I'm not going on vacation with you.
Brooke
Well, Brad, I don't think she was talking about letting you go, like, on a trip somewhere. Yeah, I think she meant it in the term. Like you might be fired from the company or emotionally.
Jeffrey
No,
Brooke
letting it go is a business term that you're being let go of the. From the company.
Jose
Paychecks won't come in anymore, meaning you're
Jeffrey
not going to work for your brother,
Julie
which means you'll have to do work somewhere.
Jeffrey
I mean, it sounds like you get
Brooke
up to shirtless vacuum for another.
Jeffrey
Are you hearing what she's saying?
Brad
Yeah, I'll talk to my brother about it. I don't think that's. That's the case again. I've been there for 10 years. She's been there for one. Like, come on.
Jeffrey
Okay, I don't think that matters.
Brooke
Well, the good news, Brad, is that now you know what the root of all the tension was, because that's what you were looking to find out.
Jeffrey
They didn't know how to fire him.
Brooke
Well, they clearly Have a lot of issues with the way you do work at the company.
Brad
I'm sorry, I don't see it at all. I don't get it. But like I said, I'm gonna be at the Morton building tomorrow night, so if she wants to come by and still asking
Jeffrey
herself.
Julie
Yeah, you want me to come see you shirtless vacuum? No, thanks.
Brooke
Well, you know what? I'll volunteer to come watch you shirtless vacuum. I'll come down to the Morton building, we'll have a whole bunch of guys come, and we'll all mop and. And vacuum and change light bulbs together with our shirts.
Jeffrey
Oh, man.
Brad
Guys, if you're serious, come on by. I'll. We'll shoot it on my cell phone, and we'll post it, and we'll make a lot more money, and then I can. I can just quit this stupid job.
Jeffrey
Okay, he's got a backup plan.
Brooke
All right, text in to 78592 if you want to join the shirtless maintenance crew with me and Brad. We're gonna clean up the Morton building tomorrow night. It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Brad
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Geico Gecko
And now for a bit of breaking news. Between your breaking news with me, the Geico Gecko, here are some things you ought to know today. People who switch their car insurance to Geico save about $900 a year. Experts are calling that nice to know. Also, plants can hear when bees buzz. My ficus just heard that. And finally, animal experts have confirmed that goats have regional accents. I'm getting a hint of Irish there.
Brooke
It feels good to get good news. It feels good to gecko.
Michael Easter
2%. That is the number of people who take the stairs when there was. There's also an escalator available. I'm Michael Easter, and on my podcast, 2%, I break down the science of mental toughness, fitness, and building resilience in our strange modern world. I'll be speaking with writers, researchers, and other health and fitness experts and more. To look past the impractical and way too complex pseudoscience that dominates the wellness industry.
Jeffrey
We really believe that seed oil were inherently inflammatory. We got it wrong. Many of the problems that we are freaked out about in the world are the result of stress.
Unknown Motivational Speaker
Put yourself through some hardships and you will come out on the other side a happier, more fulfilled, healthier person.
Michael Easter
Listen to 2%. That's 2% on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Jeffrey
There's always one in the family, isn't there?
Brad
Yeah.
Jeffrey
Hey, it's Brooke and Jeffrey, thanks for sticking with us through that awkward Tuesday phone call. I. I think we helped the family establish some more clear boundaries.
Unknown Female Co-host
Yeah. Get what they needed done for the workplace, I guess.
Jeffrey
Yeah, that is right. I know we had a lot of comments coming in about this one and and that guy's big assumptions. What are people saying?
Unknown Female Co-host
Yeah, well, mostly people are saying how stupid he is. We got oi. He's painful. Not the brightest bulb in the box. He should fired just for being that stupid and clueless or this one. Awkward doesn't even begin to describe it. Clearly one brother got the brains and the work ethics and the common sense.
Jeffrey
I mean they're not wrong. No, they are not wrong. That poor guy. All right, hey, thank you so much again for being here and please subscribe. We'll be back tomorrow with a second date update podcast.
Date: April 14, 2026
Host(s): Brooke, Jeffrey, Jose, Unnamed Female Co-host
Episode Theme: Navigating Awkward Family & Workplace Boundaries
This episode of Brooke and Jeffrey’s “Second Date Update” features a special Awkward Tuesday Phone Call segment where Brad, a returning listener, seeks advice for a very uncomfortable situation at work. Brad believes his brother's wife, Julie—who is also his boss—might be attracted to him and is nagging him for personal reasons. The episode unpacks family, workplace dynamics, and plenty of cringe-worthy misunderstandings as the crew helps Brad attempt a polite confrontation.
Who is Brad?
The Problem:
Skepticism from the Team:
Support vs. Pushback:
Brad’s Awkward Approach:
Brad Misunderstands Brutally:
Hosts Step In:
Julie’s Final Word:
Brad’s Takeaway:
On the “Attraction” Theory:
Hosts’ Reality Check:
Julie, Bluntly:
Brad, Cluelessly:
Julie’s Deadpan:
Co-host’s Savage Commentary:
This episode is a comedic masterclass in misunderstanding. Brad misreads genuine workplace management as romantic interest, leading to an excruciatingly awkward confrontation with his sister-in-law Julie—who simply wants him to do his job. The hosts provide a healthy dose of skepticism and wit, and the show ends with Brad's professional future even shakier than before.
In the words of one listener: "Awkward doesn't even begin to describe it." ([21:53])
For fans of cringe, family drama, and epic communication fails, this Awkward Tuesday is unmissable.