Awkward Tuesday: Tinder Surprise

Summary

Podcast Summary: Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Episode: Awkward Tuesday: Tinder Surprise

Date: October 21, 2025
Host: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

This Awkward Tuesday installment of "Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update" centers on Andrew, a listener worried that his new relationship with Charlotte, someone he met on Tinder, has taken a strange turn. Sensing that Charlotte is pulling away, Andrew asks the show to help him confront her live and get closure—or at least the truth. What starts as a fairly routine discomfort over mixed signals becomes a shocking radio moment when a secret comes to light that blindsides the hosts and listeners alike.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Setup: Andrew Senses a Shift

• Andrew shares concerns: After several great months with Charlotte—constant contact, spontaneous weekends—she’s now distant, cancelling plans, and giving inconsistent communication.
  • Andrew (06:27): “I’ve been dating this girl, Charlotte, for a few months... at first, it was really, really awesome...”
• Hosts discuss how you can just "feel" when something is off in a relationship, setting a tone of empathy and light teasing.
• Andrew admits he quickly fell for Charlotte and is confused by her sudden emotional withdrawal.

2. The Strategy Session

• The hosts (Brooke, Markin, Jonathan) brainstorm how Andrew should approach Charlotte.
  • Brooke suggests (11:32): Use an invitation to the family holiday as a gentle test: “I’d love to book you one too... It kind of holds her feet to the fire.”
  • Jonathan jokes (12:30): “Just ask her to move in with you!”
  • Advice focuses on forcing clarity, albeit with humor and caution not to appear desperate or thirsty.

3. The Awkward Tuesday Phone Call (with timestamps)

a. Initial Conversation

• Andrew dials Charlotte (13:56): He sounds nervous; she claims she’s just busy with work and family plans for the holidays.
  • Charlotte (14:53): "I’m busy right now, actually. I’m at work."
• Andrew invites Charlotte to visit his family for the holidays, but she dodges and says she needs to consult her parents first.

b. Turning Up the Pressure

• Andrew (16:02): “Charlotte, am I a priority to you?”
  • Charlotte: “Yeah... You’ve got to give me a second to figure it out.”

c. The Bombshell

• Andrew abruptly asks if she's distant because she's married.
  • Andrew (16:43): “Is this really, like, are you actually too busy, or is this because you’re married?”
  • Charlotte, shocked (16:44): “What are you talking about?”
• Andrew reveals, live on air, that he knows she’s married and that her husband has contacted him.
  • Andrew (16:51): “I know you’re married. I talked to your husband. He found me.”
• The hosts are blindsided—Brooke exclaims, “What?” (16:57), and presses Andrew on why he kept this secret from them.

d. Charlotte’s Reaction and Fallout

• Charlotte (17:54): "You don't know me. You don't know my marriage..." She insists the situation is complex and feels ambushed.
• Brooke calls out the deception:
  • Brooke (18:05): “Don’t turn it like that... You’re lying to two different people now and messing with both of their hearts.”
• Both Andrew and Charlotte hang up, the conversation unresolved.

4. Hosts React and Reflect

• The hosts process the unexpected revelation, debating Andrew’s withholding of information and Charlotte’s dishonesty.
  • Brooke (18:47): “You need to prep us for those things. We can't go in blind to something like that.”
  • Jonathan (19:21): “If she’s cheating on him, she’ll cheat on you.”
• Andrew wonders if he still has a chance with Charlotte, revealing his continued naiveté.
  • Andrew (19:05): “Might not hurt to keep in touch.”
• Brooke and Markin urge Andrew to move on, highlighting the unhealthy dynamic and his apparent readiness to keep swiping on Tinder.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Brooke (03:53): “There’s gonna be one man that’s able to pick a lock that’s gonna seal her heart.”
• Andrew (09:06): “I mean, I don’t want to be strung along if something else is going on that isn’t me.”
• Brooke (11:32): “The way you worded [the ultimatum] was kind of cringe, just so you know... comes off a little thirsty.”
• Andrew (16:43): “Is this really, like, are you actually too busy, or is this because you’re married?”
• Charlotte (17:54): “You don’t know me. You don’t know my marriage, and you don’t know this situation. This is not okay, Andrew.”
• Brooke (18:05): “You’re lying to two different people now and messing with both of their hearts. That’s messed up.”
• Andrew (19:05): “Might not hurt to keep in touch.”
• Jonathan (19:21): “If she’s cheating on him, she’ll cheat on you...”
• Brooke (23:04): “That we get used and abused?”
• Markin (24:02): “If you like chaos in your life, then yeah, it’s a great ad [for Tinder].”

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 03:03 – Hosts set up the Awkward Tuesday call and react to past wild stories
• 06:11 – Andrew joins the show and describes his relationship concerns
• 09:35 – Andrew explains why he reached out to the show
• 11:32 – Hosts develop the confrontation strategy
• 13:56 – Andrew begins live call to Charlotte
• 16:43 – The reveal: Andrew confronts Charlotte about her marriage
• 17:54 – Charlotte protests and the call unravels
• 18:47 – Hosts and Andrew discuss the aftermath
• 19:21 – Hosts warn Andrew about staying in contact
• 23:04 – Hosts debrief and joke about the chaos

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Tone and Style

• The show maintains a playful, sarcastic tone even through tense moments, with hosts balancing empathy and humor ("comes off a little thirsty", "just ask her to move in with you").
• When serious issues arise (the revelation of a secret marriage), the hosts turn blunt and slightly confrontational, especially Brooke, who shows zero tolerance for deception.
• Andrew is painted as earnest but naïve, especially in his hope for reconciliation after learning the truth.

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Summary

This episode of "Awkward Tuesday" delivers all the hallmarks of the Second Date Update formula—an awkward search for truth, big laughs, and an unexpected twist. Listeners are taken on a rollercoaster from romantic confusion to a shocking revelation of infidelity, with the hosts providing both comic relief and empathetic advice. The live confrontation is as dramatic as Second Date gets, serving up both heartfelt exchanges and radio gold.

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Transcript

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[Maggie Freeling]

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[Andrew]

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[Maggie Freeling]

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[Jonathan Goldstein]

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[Brooke]

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[Markin Delicato]

And I'm Markin Delicato.

[Jonathan Goldstein]

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[Brooke]

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[Charlotte]

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[Dr. Elizabeth Poynter]

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[Jonathan Goldstein]

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[Charlotte]

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[Jonathan Goldstein]

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[Andrew]

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[Jonathan Goldstein]

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[Dr. Elizabeth Poynter]

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[Jonathan Goldstein]

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[Andrew]

Shotguns and rifles, and you name it. Five, six white people pushed me in the car. I'm going, what the hell?

[Markin Delicato]

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[Andrew]

All you gotta do is receive the package.

[Jonathan Goldstein]

Don't have to open it, just accept it.

[Andrew]

She was very upset Crying.

[Jonathan Goldstein]

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[Dr. Elizabeth Poynter]

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[Charlotte]

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[Brooke]

Hey, it's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning, and we got a brand new Awkward Tuesday phone call for you. Yeah, we do. That episode's about to start, but we need to touch base on the alpha tests that went down yesterday in the second date update where a woman locked him in a closet. Yep.

[Andrew]

Literally.

[Brooke]

To see if he could get out to prove that he was a man, I guess. Alpha. Yeah. And people had feelings on the comment below. We got a lot of. Well, that was rough on the ears. What did I just listen to? I haven't even finished yet, and I already am thinking, she's a psycho, crazy lady. She needs help. Dodged a bullet, Red flag the size of a building. You get the point. Oh, I see. I see. So a lot of fans of hers, Is that what you're saying? A lot of people wanting to date her for sure. Yeah.

[Jonathan Goldstein]

Do you guys think she's gonna hear this and go, okay, I will go get there.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Charlotte]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

You know, there's gonna be one man that's able to pick a lock that's gonna seal her heart, and it's all gonna work out and it's gonna be perfect for them.

[Dr. Elizabeth Poynter]

Exactly. I like that.

[Brooke]

Somebody for everybody out there. All right, we're gonna get into brand new Awkward Tuesday episode. It starts right now.

[Markin Delicato]

I'm gonna tell you two shocking things.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Markin Delicato]

First, one of our listeners actually got into a serious relationship with a woman he met on Tinder.

[Brooke]

Oh, that's the shocking part.

[Markin Delicato]

I know. Crazy. The second shocking thing is what he said today during his phone call with her. He didn't give us a heads up on.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Markin Delicato]

In fact, he didn't tell us on purpose, and it blindsided the entire room.

[Jonathan Goldstein]

Yeah. What the heck, man?

[Markin Delicato]

You're about to hear it and be just as shocked as we were, but.

[Brooke]

Still on his side somehow.

[Dr. Elizabeth Poynter]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

I mean, truly.

[Markin Delicato]

In an awkward Tuesday phone call for the ages, coming up next. It's awkward.

[Dr. Elizabeth Poynter]

It's Tuesday.

[Markin Delicato]

It's awkward Tuesday phone call. When you're in a relationship, you can just tell when something is off.

[Brooke]

Oh, yeah, that's true.

[Markin Delicato]

Without even saying words, you just feel it in your gut. Oh, yeah. Like, Brooke, give me a personal example. It could be something from your husband or from your library of past partners that you've been with. What was an unspoken sign that something wasn't right?

[Brooke]

How can I tell you about something that's unspoken?

[Jonathan Goldstein]

Tell someone's cheating on you before they did.

[Dr. Elizabeth Poynter]

Before.

[Markin Delicato]

Before you found out.

[Brooke]

I found out, like after I broke up with people, that maybe they cheated, but never during. I don't know that I'm very aware in a relationship now that you bring it up. Well, what about Jeffrey? I don't know if I am in. I don't have my finger on the pole.

[Markin Delicato]

What about when Michael was wearing your perfume for two straight weeks? Oh, that was kind of a weird thing. That was off.

[Brooke]

I know. Somebody in the relationship has to smell good.

[Jonathan Goldstein]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

And if it's him, then I'm okay with.

[Jonathan Goldstein]

I feel like her husband could have a whole separate family and Brook wouldn't know.

[Markin Delicato]

Yeah, maybe.

[Brooke]

But I'd be happy.

[Dr. Elizabeth Poynter]

The thing is.

[Jonathan Goldstein]

Oh, good, honey.

[Markin Delicato]

You just know that feeling when it's not right. And it's a feeling our listener Andrew, is familiar with all too well. Not the perfume part, just the things not feeling right.

[Jonathan Goldstein]

And so he's also wearing Brooks perfume.

[Markin Delicato]

Possibly, but he wants to do something about it, so we reached out. Hey, Andrew. Welcome to the show, man.

[Andrew]

Hey, how's it going?

[Jonathan Goldstein]

Hey.

[Brooke]

Good, good. How are you doing, is the question.

[Andrew]

Andrew, I am very anxious.

[Brooke]

Anxious. Okay.

[Markin Delicato]

According to your email, there's something off in your relationship. Tell us about what's going on.

[Andrew]

Sure. I've been dating this girl, Charlotte, for a few months.

[Dr. Elizabeth Poynter]

Okay.

[Markin Delicato]

Okay.

[Brooke]

And is this something where you're really excited about this new relationship?

[Andrew]

I am. I mean, at first, it was really, really awesome. We were seeing each other all the time. Like, weekends, nights. She didn't call me in the middle of the day. I'm like, everything. Like, when it's all exciting and new, she's like, what?

[Brooke]

Someone cares about me.

[Andrew]

It's like, what the heck?

[Markin Delicato]

Okay, it sounds like that's not something that you're used to. Have you not had a lot of relationships before?

[Andrew]

I've had relationships, but nothing really like this. I mean, like, I quickly started falling for her.

[Brooke]

Oh, that's cute.

[Andrew]

Oh, wow.

[Jonathan Goldstein]

You can tell when you start to like someone when anything happens during the day and you want to tell them.

[Andrew]

Yeah. You know what I mean?

[Jonathan Goldstein]

Little things, big things. That sounds like what she was doing to you.

[Andrew]

Yeah. No, I mean, she's fun. She's spontaneous. I mean, she is not like any other woman I've met on Tinder at all.

[Jonathan Goldstein]

Oh, that's a big.

[Markin Delicato]

I mean.

[Dr. Elizabeth Poynter]

Oh, okay.

[Andrew]

Not in the world.

[Brooke]

Just Tinder.

[Markin Delicato]

I met plenty of her, like, on Bumble and on. Okay, Cupid. But Tinder, she's a first to the end. Thanks, Alexis. Okay, that was.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

Well, I mean, what's changed?

[Andrew]

Like, starting out, like, three weeks ago, she just started to hang out with me less than we were doing.

[Jonathan Goldstein]

Okay. Energy.

[Brooke]

Is there. Like, do you know of a reason? Like, more work or.

[Andrew]

I honestly don't know. I mean, like, she says she wants to see me, and I mean, like, we'll go out of town for a quick weekend, but then all of a sudden, like, the next week, I'll hear, like, nothing from her. Like, no communication. So week of a lot, and then a week of nothing.

[Brooke]

Okay, well, no talking at all.

[Jonathan Goldstein]

Weird.

[Markin Delicato]

In her defense, you do sound like a pretty big personality, and she might need a break from you for a full week after spending a whole weekend together.

[Brooke]

I don't know if he's gonna pick up on your sarcasm on that one.

[Markin Delicato]

Well, I wasn't being sarcastic. I mean, that's big.

[Brooke]

Oh, his personality.

[Markin Delicato]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

Overwhelming.

[Dr. Elizabeth Poynter]

It's.

[Brooke]

Yeah. Yes.

[Jonathan Goldstein]

Jeff's trying to talk. Sorry, Jeff. Keep going. Personality.

[Markin Delicato]

That's all right. Angie, did you want to say anything to that?

[Andrew]

No. You're right. I do have a big personality.

[Charlotte]

Yeah, I could tell.

[Markin Delicato]

See, there you go.

[Brooke]

Now, I mean, it could be like. I feel like once you're really comfortable in a relationship, you don't necessarily have to speak all the time. Like, maybe she's more of an introvert than you realized.

[Markin Delicato]

Oh, you know, is that possible?

[Andrew]

I mean, she keeps saying that she wants to see me and that she's just busy more and more, and. I mean, I don't know if that's actually true or if she's making up.

[Brooke]

Okay, so you're getting the feeling that Jeff was talking about in the beginning that something's up.

[Andrew]

Yeah. No, it just feels like that she's, like, pulling away, holding off to me more and more, and, I mean, I don't want to be strung along if something else is going on that isn't me.

[Brooke]

Okay. Oh, wait, did you say, isn't you? Like, as in, you think she could be cheating?

[Andrew]

It's possible. I mean, who knows with everybody on all these apps?

[Brooke]

Now, are you guys exclusive?

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Jonathan Goldstein]

That's what I want to say. Is that your girlfriend.

[Andrew]

We've talked about being exclusive, but really, like, her actions, like, all this pulling away, it's definitely speaking different because, I mean, she's canceled a couple dates. I mean, the last week.

[Markin Delicato]

That's exhausting because you sound like you're 100% committed to her. And she's not giving that back to you, so.

[Brooke]

More. Right. It changed. There's a change.

[Markin Delicato]

And maybe something caused that. So, like, what is it that made you email the show for help? Like, what do you want to get out of this awkward Tuesday phone call?

[Andrew]

I mean, I really just. I want to know 100 of is she in or out? Because really, like, as I said, I have fallen for her. My heart cannot take this.

[Brooke]

Oh, sweet man.

[Markin Delicato]

What about your other body parts? Can they take you?

[Andrew]

My right leg, maybe my left is having issues.

[Charlotte]

Okay.

[Maggie Freeling]

Yeah.

[Markin Delicato]

And that was. I was solid. And she deserves to love a hundred percent of you.

[Dr. Elizabeth Poynter]

Yeah.

[Markin Delicato]

And you deserve to know the truth. So let's come back, we'll give you a little bit of advice before we let you make your awkward Tuesday phone call to your maybe girlfriend. Charlotte.

[Brooke]

No, still girlfriend right now, Jeff. There's no maybe.

[Markin Delicato]

What title would you give her?

[Andrew]

I mean, right now I was thinking girlfriend, but I. I want to know.

[Markin Delicato]

Okay, girlfriend.

[Jonathan Goldstein]

Okay, girl, we're.

[Markin Delicato]

Call this lady and find out what she knows.

[Brooke]

She's a girlfriend.

[Markin Delicato]

Yeah, we'll see where her head's at when we do your awkward Tuesday phone call right after this. It's awkward.

[Dr. Elizabeth Poynter]

It's Tuesday.

[Markin Delicato]

It's awkward Tuesday phone call. It's not really an ultimatum, but it kind of is when you ask the person you've been dating for a while. Are you a hundred percent in on me or am I wasting my time here?

[Brooke]

Yikes.

[Markin Delicato]

Brooke, have you asked your husband that yet?

[Jonathan Goldstein]

After the wedding.

[Brooke]

We went over that before the wedding.

[Markin Delicato]

Because that's exactly what made Andrew reach out to us today. Since the woman he's been seeing for months. Charlotte is telling him all the right things. She's saying she likes him, she wants to see him, but her actions are not matching those words.

[Brooke]

Yeah, they're all over the place.

[Markin Delicato]

Yeah. Andrew's heart just can't take it anymore. So he needs to know, are you actually in on me or do I need to move on? And how do you even approach that type of conversation? We need a strategy here, Brooke, so.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Markin Delicato]

Please help give Andrew a strategy.

[Brooke]

Okay, well, the way you worded it was kind of cringe, just so you know.

[Jonathan Goldstein]

Yeah.

[Markin Delicato]

Andrew, why did you word it that way?

[Brooke]

Yeah, comes off a little thirsty, a little desperate. Okay, thirsty boy Instead, Andrew, I have an idea. You say, gosh, I am just loving our relationship. I think everything's going so well, and I am about to book tickets home for the holidays. I'd love to book you one too. You know, What? I mean, it's like kind of holding her feet to the fire because suddenly there's a reason why she either needs to come clean and tell you, ah, too much. I can't do that. Or she's like, that sounds amazing. And, you know, she's 100 in.

[Markin Delicato]

Okay, you're. You're trying to smoke her out so that she has no choice but to come out and tell the real reason she doesn't want to see you.

[Brooke]

Thanks for picking up on my fire analogy. Smoke and feet and flames. You got it, Jeff.

[Andrew]

That's good. That's good. No, I like that one.

[Markin Delicato]

Oh, okay. Andrew likes that. Jose, what's your advice for him?

[Jonathan Goldstein]

Dude, just ask her to move in with you.

[Brooke]

Whoa.

[Jonathan Goldstein]

Oh, I'm, like, not saying you're really going to ask her. You're not going to mean it. I mean, but you ask the question. That way, if she's hiding anything, she.

[Markin Delicato]

Will spill the tea.

[Brooke]

So if she says yes to moving in, then what?

[Jonathan Goldstein]

Then, you know, everything is great. But then you're kind of committed, I think.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Dr. Elizabeth Poynter]

Okay. Yeah.

[Jonathan Goldstein]

Yeah, that's the problem.

[Markin Delicato]

He's 100% in on her. So maybe it's good for you.

[Jonathan Goldstein]

Andrew, if she said yes to moving in, are you willing?

[Andrew]

That might be too much, but I do like the holiday idea. Okay.

[Dr. Elizabeth Poynter]

All right.

[Jonathan Goldstein]

Maybe. I think the same. Now.

[Markin Delicato]

Jose has taken back his advice, I think quicker than Brooke does, jump right to marriage.

[Brooke]

Not thinking through things, but, yeah, hang on her saying no, Really?

[Markin Delicato]

I. I think. I think the goal of both was the same, though. Put a little bit of pressure on her in order to force her to open up and tell you the truth.

[Jonathan Goldstein]

If something's on her mind, she should tell you.

[Andrew]

Gotcha. Okay. I'm a little nervous about this. This. This is a big moment for me.

[Jonathan Goldstein]

Oh, that's understandable.

[Dr. Elizabeth Poynter]

Okay.

[Jonathan Goldstein]

And you care about her.

[Markin Delicato]

You made Brook yawn with that comment.

[Brooke]

So I was trying to do it quietly. I haven't had enough coffee today.

[Jonathan Goldstein]

We work early mornings, Jeff.

[Markin Delicato]

We're invested in this.

[Brooke]

It was because I'm not interested. His lack of oxygen.

[Dr. Elizabeth Poynter]

Yeah, we know.

[Markin Delicato]

It was all cringe to you, Brook.

[Andrew]

So here we go.

[Markin Delicato]

I'm gonna dial Charlotte. We'll see if she picks up.

[Charlotte]

Hello?

[Andrew]

Hey, babe. How's it. How's it going?

[Charlotte]

Oh, hey, Andrew. Yeah.

[Andrew]

Yeah, this is Andrew. I mean, this. This is my voice, and I don't really know what's going on.

[Charlotte]

You sound nervous.

[Andrew]

I don't know.

[Dr. Elizabeth Poynter]

Kind of.

[Charlotte]

Kind of weird.

[Andrew]

Yeah, a little nervous. I Mean, like, I've been thinking about us. You've been thinking about us?

[Charlotte]

I mean, yeah, of course. I've just been so busy. I'm so sorry. I've been, you know, Mia.

[Andrew]

Right. Yeah.

[Charlotte]

No, I mean, what are you up to right now? What are you busy with?

[Andrew]

What? Why? You want to hang out? Cause I can do that.

[Charlotte]

I'm busy right now, actually. I'm at work. But, I mean, we could probably try to hang, like, a couple of days or something.

[Andrew]

Yeah. No, you. You've been saying a lot lately.

[Charlotte]

Oh, I know. Work's been so crazy. You know how this time of year, you know, like, the holidays are about to come around. It's just kind of nuts. And, I mean, I'm just trying to fit everything in, you know? But I promise I'll let you know when I've got some time. I promise.

[Andrew]

Funny that you should mention holidays, actually. I got. I'm booking tickets to go visit my family and whatnot. And I'd love to book you a ticket to come with me.

[Charlotte]

Oh, my gosh. Let's see. I'm still trying to figure out all of the stuff with my family and all the dates and stuff my parents are terrible about, like, telling me dates and things. So let me kind of get with them first, and then I'll let you know, kind of what my life is looking like.

[Andrew]

Oh, yeah. I kind of gotta need to know pretty quickly because stuff's on sale and it's easy to get. Well.

[Charlotte]

I don't. I don't know anything yet, so I definitely can't tell you anything concrete.

[Andrew]

Cheryl, am I a priority to you?

[Charlotte]

Well, yeah. I mean, I don't. This is the first time we've even talked about holidays. Like, you've got to give me a second to figure it out. I haven't even talked to my family.

[Andrew]

This isn't really about holidays, but, like, all the time I'm trying to get more time with you and just keep getting those these days.

[Charlotte]

Well, I'm sorry. I know I've been all over the place, but it's just not a good time. It's logistics and schedules. I don't know what else to tell you. I will try.

[Andrew]

All right. I mean, I want to know, is this really, like, are you actually too busy, or is this because you're married?

[Charlotte]

What are you talking about?

[Andrew]

I know all about it. I know you're married. What is going on here? Are we.

[Charlotte]

What do you mean, you know?

[Andrew]

I know you're married. I talked to your husband. He found me.

[Brooke]

What?

[Jonathan Goldstein]

What is going on?

[Brooke]

Andrew, why wouldn't you tell us that?

[Charlotte]

Who is there?

[Brooke]

Holy crap.

[Markin Delicato]

Yeah, to answer Charlotte. Hi. You're on the radio. Yeah, we're a show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.

[Charlotte]

Andrew, why am I on the radio?

[Andrew]

Because I want. Because I'm being made the bad guy. And I wanted everybody to know that it is not me. It is you.

[Jonathan Goldstein]

Oh, that's weird.

[Markin Delicato]

Okay.

[Brooke]

What? Who thought you were the bad guy?

[Andrew]

Yeah, her husband. He found me. He called me up and started ripping me apart. I was like, oh, I did not do this. She's married. And I had no idea.

[Brooke]

Oh, my God. You didn't know she was married? You didn't know you were a side piece? Andrew, she was on Tinder.

[Andrew]

I didn't know.

[Markin Delicato]

Charlotte, did you know you were married?

[Charlotte]

You know what? You don't know me. You don't know my marriage, and you don't know this situation. I was. This is not okay. Andrew.

[Brooke]

Don'T turn it like that. It's obviously not an open relationship if the husband is chasing down your side piece and yelling at him. You're lying to two different people now and messing with both of their hearts. That's messed up.

[Markin Delicato]

Plus, I feel like Andrew just ruined his chances to have Charlotte come back home and meet his family.

[Brooke]

We didn't ask that.

[Dr. Elizabeth Poynter]

You know what?

[Andrew]

I'm done.

[Charlotte]

I'm done. I'm not the joke of your, like, day today, so. You know what? I'm done.

[Brooke]

Wait, wait.

[Dr. Elizabeth Poynter]

With what?

[Markin Delicato]

Your marriage?

[Brooke]

I think that that is already taken care of.

[Andrew]

She's hung up.

[Markin Delicato]

Oh, did she hang up?

[Jonathan Goldstein]

Oh, she was serious. I don't know.

[Brooke]

Why?

[Markin Delicato]

Why'd she hang up?

[Brooke]

Oh, my God, Andrew, you need to prep us for those things. We can't go and blind to something like that.

[Andrew]

I know.

[Markin Delicato]

You knew this the whole time.

[Andrew]

I was worried that something was gonna go that you. Like you weren't gonna do it, and we wouldn't find anything out, and I just. I needed to confront her, and I needed everyone to know about it.

[Brooke]

Well, and you got confirmation that she's married. I mean, it could have been some CR. Or something making.

[Andrew]

I mean, it sounds like she's kind of having issues with the marriage and everything, so. I mean, might not hurt to keep in touch.

[Brooke]

No, no, no, Andrew, you are the issue.

[Markin Delicato]

It's kind of sweet. Pick up all the broken pieces and fix her.

[Brooke]

Yeah, talking very highly of her the entire phone.

[Jonathan Goldstein]

If she's cheating on him, she'll cheat on you. Don't think that this Is like going to be a good thing going forward.

[Brooke]

Especially if she's cheated on him with you.

[Andrew]

Yeah, maybe that means because. Maybe that means because she cheated with me that she won't cheat on me.

[Brooke]

No, no, I don't think nobody ever says that.

[Markin Delicato]

I appreciate the optimism, though. Come on.

[Dr. Elizabeth Poynter]

Okay.

[Brooke]

No, Andrew, I mean, wow. I mean, if you continue it, you know what you're getting yourself into and it's not good.

[Andrew]

Yeah. No, I just got that gut feeling that I. I don't think she's gonna talk to me anymore now.

[Markin Delicato]

I don't know what's giving you that impression, Andrew. I would hold on to hope just a little bit longer.

[Brooke]

Yeah, and who knows? Maybe you'll match back up on Tinder again.

[Markin Delicato]

Gotta make sure to be ready to swipe right again.

[Andrew]

Okay, Andrew, I'm still on there. So I. I'm. I'm gonna do my best.

[Brooke]

Wait, I thought you were in a committed relationship.

[Markin Delicato]

You're meeting other women.

[Andrew]

Oh, man.

[Jonathan Goldstein]

Wait, are you married?

[Brooke]

Good point.

[Markin Delicato]

Jose, Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

[Andrew]

All I know is what I've been told.

[Jonathan Goldstein]

And that's a half truth is a whole lie.

[Maggie Freeling]

For almost a decade, the murder of an 18 year old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved. Until a local homemaker, a journalist and a handful of girls came forward with a story.

[Andrew]

I'm telling you, we know Quincy killed her.

[Maggie Freeling]

We know a story that law enforcement used to convict six people and that got the citizen investigator on national tv.

[Andrew]

Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Kern.

[Maggie Freeling]

My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist producer. And I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find.

[Jonathan Goldstein]

I did not know her and I.

[Markin Delicato]

Did not kill her or rape or.

[Jonathan Goldstein]

Burn or any of that other stuff.

[Markin Delicato]

That y' all said.

[Brooke]

They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her. They made me say that I poured gas on her.

[Maggie Freeling]

From lava. For good. This is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame.

[Andrew]

America, y' all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people and small towns.

[Maggie Freeling]

Listen to Graves county in the Bone Valley feed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season ad free, subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcasts.

[Dr. Elizabeth Poynter]

Welcome to Decoding Women's Health. I'm Dr. Elizabeth Poynter, chair of Women's health and gynecology at the Atria Health Institute in New York City. On this show, I'll be talking to top researchers and top clinicians, asking them your burning questions and bringing that information about women's health and midlife directly to you.

[Charlotte]

100% of women go through menopause. It can be such a struggle for.

[Brooke]

Our quality of life. But even if it's natural, why should we suffer through it?

[Dr. Elizabeth Poynter]

The types of symptoms that people talk.

[Brooke]

About is forgetting everything.

[Maggie Freeling]

I never used to forget things. They're concerned that one, they have dementia.

[Brooke]

And the other one is do I have adhd?

[Dr. Elizabeth Poynter]

There is unprecedented promise with regard to cannabis and cannabinoids to sleep better, to have less pain, have better mood, and also to have better day to day life. Listen to Decoding Women's Health with Dr. Elizabeth Poynter on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you're listening now.

[Markin Delicato]

Why does this happen to us?

[Brooke]

That we get used and abused?

[Markin Delicato]

The deceit? Yes. Listen, you can lie to your spouses, lie to your children, lie to your.

[Jonathan Goldstein]

Parents, but don't lie to us.

[Brooke]

That's just low. That's not the message we're sending.

[Markin Delicato]

Oh, okay.

[Brooke]

That's probably why it happens to us. Yeah. Because we say things like, okay, believes.

[Jonathan Goldstein]

Every email that he reads and goes, oh, this is a crazy scenario. Let's get him on the phone.

[Markin Delicato]

We all believed him. We all believed him in part one.

[Jonathan Goldstein]

I think you and producer boy need to do a little more background check.

[Markin Delicato]

You're right. I'm fired.

[Brooke]

Oh, really? I gotta be good for him, man. He got the revenge.

[Markin Delicato]

Yeah, he did.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

I guess you're right.

[Brooke]

And bold to lie to us. Kind of impressive, honestly, I mean. Yeah, no, he seemed like the nice guy. Guy.

[Markin Delicato]

Still not willing to fully eject from that relationship either. Holding on a little bit of hope that she's gonna come running to him.

[Brooke]

Yeah, that's the unhealthy part.

[Markin Delicato]

Yeah. I don't know. I don't know how I feel about the end of that phone call, but.

[Brooke]

Not a good ad for Tinder.

[Dr. Elizabeth Poynter]

No.

[Markin Delicato]

If you like chaos in your life, then yeah, it's a great ad. But if you don't want to have chaos in your life anymore, you can always email us. Tell us the truth though. Yeah. Or try. Yeah, at least. And we'll try to help you with whatever issues you're dealing with. You can find us online at brookeandjeffrey.

[Maggie Freeling]

The murder of an 18 year old girl in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved for years until a local housewife, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story.

[Andrew]

America, y' all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people and small towns.

[Maggie Freeling]

Listen to Graves county on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season ad free, subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcasts.

[Dr. Elizabeth Poynter]

Welcome to Decoding Women's Health. I'm Dr. Elizabeth Poynter, chair of Women's health and Gynecology at the Atria Health Institute in New York City. I'll be talking to top researchers and clinicians and bringing vital information about midlife women's health directly to you.

[Charlotte]

100% of women go through menopause.

[Brooke]

Even if it's natural, why should we suffer through it?

[Dr. Elizabeth Poynter]

Listen to Decoding Women's Health with Dr. Elizabeth Poynter on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Jonathan Goldstein]

Sami Gente.

[Brooke]

It's Ana Ortiz.

[Markin Delicato]

And I'm Markin Delicato.

[Jonathan Goldstein]

You might know us as Hilda and Justin from Ugly Betty.

[Brooke]

Welco. Welcome to our new podcast, Be My Betty.

[Charlotte]

Yay.

[Dr. Elizabeth Poynter]

We're rewatching the series from start to.

[Jonathan Goldstein]

Finish and talking to iconic guests like Betty herself, America Ferreira.

[Charlotte]

There was this moment when the glasses went on and it was like, this is our Betty.

[Jonathan Goldstein]

Listen to Viva Betty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jonathan Goldstein. And on the new season of Heavyweight. And so I pointed the gun at him and said, this isn't a A man who robbed a bank when he was 14 years old. And a centenarian rediscovers a love lost 80 years ago.

[Charlotte]

How can 101-year-old woman fall in love again?

[Jonathan Goldstein]

Listen to heavyweight on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Brooke]

I'm Eva Longoria. And I'm Maite Gomez Jejun. And this week on our podcast Hungry for History, we talk oysters. Plus, the Miami chief stops by.

[Jonathan Goldstein]

If you're not an oyster lover, don't even talk to me.

[Brooke]

Ancient Athenians used to scratch names onto oyster shells to vote politicians into exile. So our word ostracize is related to the word oyster. No way. Bring back the ostracon. Listen to Hungry for history on the.

[Charlotte]

Iheartradio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.