Awkward Tuesday: What If?

Summary

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Brooke & Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Episode: Awkward Tuesday: What If?

Date: February 17, 2026
Podcast Host: iHeartPodcasts
Episode Focus: When a soon-to-be-bride catches feelings for someone new, should she take the risk or let it go? The cast helps a listener navigate a major “What If?” moment before her wedding.

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Episode Overview

This episode of the "Awkward Tuesday Phone Call" segment takes listeners into an emotional crossroads. The hosts counsel a listener, Mo, who’s engaged but has developed a crush on a married man she recently met. Mo wants to know if there’s a mutual spark before she commits to her fiancé—risking her current relationship for the possibility of true love.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Introducing Mo’s Dilemma (03:34-09:08)

• Solo Hike, Life Change: Mo, engaged and wedding planning, decides to go on a solo hike (05:21). She meets an attractive, confident man on the trail; they hit it off instantly.
• Early Red Flags: The hosts react skeptically, picking up on Mo’s language—“first conversation”—suggesting there may be more to come (06:03).
• Bonding with Boundaries: Mo emphasizes she discussed her engagement with the man and agreed to meet again as couples, keeping things above board (07:16).

“We should double date... I’m making it known. I’m not going to be with you alone.” — Mo (07:16)

• Multiple Hangouts, Feelings Build: The foursome hangs out several times. A friendship develops, but Mo feels her attraction to the new guy deepening (08:04).

• Guilty Conscience: Mo hasn’t acted on her crush but is conflicted and feels guilty—this is new territory for her (09:08).

Should Mo Make the Call? (09:08-11:12)

• Honesty with Her Fiancé? The group discusses whether Mo should speak with her fiancé; she instead wants to call the other man to clarify feelings and avoid lifelong “what ifs” (09:39).
• The Pandora’s Box: Hosts warn of the dangers of opening up about feelings with a married man on the eve of her wedding:

"You're gonna open it, and you're not gonna be able to put anything back in it." — Brooke (10:24)

• Seeking Closure Over “What If?” Mo worries about making a huge life decision while harboring doubts, hence her desire to go for the call (10:02).

Advice & Setting Up the Call (11:17-14:25)

• Advice from the Hosts: Brooke’s suggestion is to ask the man for advice regarding attending a wedding alone—thus leaving the door open for him to volunteer himself if he’s interested. (12:48)

"Basically ask for his advice... then it’s an opportunity for him to volunteer himself if that's a road he wants to go down." — Brooke (12:48)

• Reading Vocal Vibes: Jose (not featured in transcript, possibly off-mic) allegedly advises Mo to listen for excitement in the man’s voice, interpreting any change as a “vibe.” Mo is skeptical but agrees (13:51).
• Final Prep: They decide not to use his real name on-air; Mo is nervous but ready (14:13).

The Awkward Tuesday Phone Call (14:36-19:14)

The Conversation

• Awkward Start: Mo calls the man, making small talk and awkwardly checking for a vocal “vibe” (14:44-15:05).

• Subtext and Surface Conversation: Mo alludes to how “good” it’s been hanging out; the man responds in kind but keeps it platonic and uncertain (15:28-16:00).

• Broaching the Topic: Mo brings up her fiancé missing her friend’s wedding and asks what she should do (16:12).

  • The man thinks she wants to borrow his car, not understanding what she's implying (16:33-16:46).

• Testing the Waters: Mo hints she’ll be alone at the wedding.

  • Man: “But will you?”
  • Mo: “I don’t know, will I?” (16:59-17:04)

• He Still Doesn’t Catch On: He replies generally, “Weddings are fun ... anything can happen.” (17:07)

• Emotional Overload: Mo shares how stressed she is about her own wedding, seeking comfort, and the man reassures her as a supportive friend.

"Don’t sweat this. Yeah. It’s all going to turn out okay. I am here for you. You and me, we’re in this, you know." — Mo’s Crush (17:43)

• Cringe and Comic Relief: Mo praises his personality, hinting that she’s drawn to him. He cluelessly asks if he’s supposed to officiate her wedding (18:12-18:21). The hosts break into laughter at this missed connection.

The Reveal

• Hosts Jump In: The hosts join the call live, revealing to the man he’s on the radio, and the real reason for the call (18:37-19:01).
• Mo Backpedals: Mo jokes, “I wanted to know if you would officiate my wedding... my good friend.” (19:01)
• He Accepts: Both Mo’s fiancé and his (the man’s) wife supposedly love each other; everyone stays friendly and platonic (19:44).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Brooke, on the risk:

  “Pandora’s box. You’re gonna open it, and you’re not gonna be able to put anything back in it. It’s just gonna be chaos.” (10:24)

• Mo’s Anxiety:

  "I'm very... my mind's all over the place, and I'm very stressed out because my wedding's coming up... I just have all of—" (17:30)

• The Man's Oblivion (hilarious):

  “Oh, I see where you're going with this. I got it. You need me to officiate your wedding, huh?” (18:12)

• Jeffrey’s Realization:

  “We were such good friends.” (19:15)

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Listener and Host Reflections (22:28–23:45)

• No Follow-up: There was never an update from Mo after the call. Brooke speculates, “I take the no update as the wedding probably never happened. That would be my guess.” (23:00)
• Audience response: Many listeners flagged this episode as “cringeworthy,” with several calling Mo's behavior a “red flag.”

  “If you’re getting married and thinking about someone else, just don’t do it.” (23:15)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Episode Theme Intro: 03:16–03:47
• Mo’s Story Unfolds: 05:10–08:12
• Hosts Debate the Dilemma: 08:12–11:12
• Advice Segment: 12:48–14:25
• Phone Call with Mo’s Crush: 14:36–19:19
• Aftermath & Reflections: 22:28–23:45

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Episode Tone & Language

The episode maintains a characteristically playful, teasing, and sometimes blunt tone. The hosts blend genuine advice with comedian banter, often cringing, laughing, and expressing honest discomfort at the awkwardness of Mo’s situation. Their language is casual, direct, and sometimes self-deprecating, always putting entertainment first.

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Summary Takeaways

• Mo faced a critical juncture—pursue a “what if” with someone else or remain loyal to her fiancé.
• Her attempt to clarify feelings with the married man resulted in cringe-worthy awkwardness, with the man completely missing her hints and defaulting to friendly support.
• No boundaries were crossed, but the situation exposed deep doubts about her pending marriage; many listeners and hosts agreed this was a significant red flag.
• The comedic, high-drama vibe was delivered in classic "Second Date Update" style: high on entertainment, low on successful love outcomes.

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Transcript

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[Jeffrey]

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[Brooke]

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[Mo]

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[Brooke]

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[Brooke]

Hey, it's your second date podcast. Thank you so much for being here. It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. However, it Is that you found us. Today is always awkward Tuesday phone call. Yeah, that's really the one that I love the most. Just because it's a little bit wider, I guess I would say, like, there's a lot more relationships we deal with than just the dating world. Yeah. So that's coming up in just a second. More drama.

[Podcast Narrator]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

Lots of Dr. So first comments. Yeah. JB Law said anything that makes Alexis laugh is worth hearing. Oh. So you know what? Yeah. Today I cringe a lot. Maybe that makes it worth also hearing. Not sure. But pretty vocally as well. Yeah. You'll understand why it's right now, no.

[Jeffrey]

Matter who you are. I think everybody is waiting to meet their perfect person.

[Brooke]

Oh, that's so nice.

[Jeffrey]

Makes you feel all the things. Excited, passionate, challenged, hungry.

[American Lung Association Announcer]

Those are just.

[Brooke]

Wait a minute.

[Jeffrey]

Maybe not hungry. Yeah, that's a natural. All those other things for sure, though.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

But just imagine, finally, after years, you actually run into that special someone. Wow. Checks all your boxes, except for one tiny problem. That you are technically already engaged to someone else.

[Brooke]

Wait, what?

[Jeffrey]

What are you supposed to do then? Do you.

[Brooke]

You already found someone there, but this.

[Jeffrey]

Person'S even more special? Do you throw your up and say, oh, well, guess I just need to commit to the first one and get used to being uncertain and not fully happy for the rest of my life?

[Brooke]

You need to stay single. At that point, I just. Yeah. Find you.

[Jeffrey]

Exactly. Do you take a risk and do something crazy.

[Brooke]

Oh, man.

[Jeffrey]

And call a radio show for help?

[Brooke]

Oh, God, I want the drama. But I'm also worried one of our.

[Jeffrey]

Listeners has decided she needs to get closure or else she might look back on her life and wonder, what if we're going to try and help her in your awkward Tuesday phone call.

[American Lung Association Announcer]

Here we go.

[Jeffrey]

Next. It's awkward.

[Mo]

It's Tuesday.

[Ryder Strong]

It's awkward Tuesday phone call.

[Jeffrey]

How do you guys feel about going out and doing an activity all by yourself? Like seeing a movie or eating at a restaurant? Going down the tunnel of Love Ride? Vote for one.

[Brooke]

Dude, I will take some alone time any day of the week.

[Jeffrey]

I'd rather just be alone at home than alone in public. Embarrassed. Well, I know a lot of people see that as taboo, but one of our listeners went out and did a solo activity. Says that day may have changed her life forever. What? Why now she needs our help because of it. Her name is Mo, so let's welcome her to the show. What's up, Mo?

[Mo]

Hi, guys. How are you?

[Brooke]

Oh, my God. Just by your tone and what Jeff said, change your Life forever Doesn't sound like a good thing anymore.

[Mo]

No.

[Jeffrey]

So what's going on?

[Brooke]

Dang.

[Mo]

Yeah. So me and my fiance, we've been together for six years total and we got engaged for last year.

[Brooke]

Oh, well. Yeah. Congratulations.

[Mo]

Well, thank you. Yes, I'm. Well, yes. I'll get into a little bit about this whole thing.

[Mo's Crush]

Okay.

[Mo]

But so I had the day off of work, so I'm like, you know what? Let me go on a hike.

[Brooke]

Great.

[Mo]

A solo hike. And while I was on the, on the trail, I ended up meeting this guy who was on the same trail as me.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Mo]

And so we started talking, walking, and like, I don't know, it was just like a great first conversation.

[Brooke]

I did not like how you said first just then.

[Jeffrey]

What do you mean?

[Brooke]

I thought she was gonna say date next. Like, oh, okay.

[Jeffrey]

Because first implies that there's more conversations.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. So are you not allowed to talk to people when you're out in the woods?

[Brooke]

Chemistry on the phone with us, she's engaged, she's saying that there's a problem, and I'm guessing this is where the problem starts. Am I wrong?

[Mo]

No, you're not wrong.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

Okay.

[Brooke]

So what, what happens? What's going on?

[Mo]

So he's very attractive, very self assured, and, you know, I was talking to him about my wedding planning.

[Brooke]

Oh, that's good. Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Mo]

He was laughing and he's like, because he's newly married, so we, we had that bond over that.

[Jeffrey]

That's great.

[Brooke]

So this is looking more positive and, and innocent.

[Mo]

Yeah. So then we had a great day, we finished the hike, then he asks for my number.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, wait, why?

[Brooke]

What's his reasoning?

[Jeffrey]

How did he ask? Was he like, anyway, let me hit you up sometime, or was it like.

[Ryder Strong]

Hey, we should all get together as.

[Brooke]

You know, our husband, like a double date. Yeah, double date would be okay.

[Jeffrey]

How was it asked?

[Mo]

So he was like, hey, like, I like your energy, whatever, but like, can I have your number so we can hang out?

[Jeffrey]

That's generic.

[Mo]

I. I said like very clear and explicit. Like, we should double date. We should hang out. Like, I'm making it known. Like, I'm not going to be with you alone.

[Brooke]

Yeah, that's fine.

[Jeffrey]

I like that. Make your fiance jealous.

[Brooke]

And maybe that's what he meant too, you know, like, maybe he meant the same thing. Was he cool with that?

[Mo]

I mean, he was like, oh, yeah, 100%. Like, a couple weeks later, we did arrange a dinner with our significant others. So it was definitely a double date.

[Brooke]

Cute. So everybody knows about It. Everybody's on the up and up.

[Jeffrey]

How did that go?

[Mo]

Yeah, it was a lot of fun.

[Brooke]

Oh, all right. Okay.

[Jeffrey]

Where's the problem here? Yeah, Are you bragging to us about you got the perfect relationship and new friends? Where's the drama?

[Mo]

So we hung out more, and I'm definitely starting to develop a crush on this new guy.

[Brooke]

Oh, no. What?

[Jeffrey]

Well, you have to go, you know, to have crushes anymore. Jeff, this is not the time to say love is love, okay? She's married. This is inappropriate. No, she's engaged at this point.

[Brooke]

Okay, the other couple's married. The other.

[Jeffrey]

But still.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Just because you're engaged in your married, you can't have crushes on other people as long as you don't act on them. Have you acted on any of these crushing feelings?

[Mo]

No.

[American Lung Association Announcer]

Okay.

[Brooke]

But here's the thing. You can't hang out with him anymore. You got to be done. I think.

[Jeffrey]

Well, hold on. We. We haven't heard the rest of the story.

[Brooke]

Okay?

[Jeffrey]

Maybe there's more to this where they're just perfect friends, okay? And that's what we're doing for our awkward Tuesday. They want to be. Let's be best friends. Right. That's what you want to do with this? Call next level of friendship.

[Brooke]

That's a great idea.

[Mo]

Yeah, not exactly.

[Brooke]

Yeah. So what do you want to do?

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. What's going on?

[Mo]

Like, I'm feeling very guilty about this because this has never happened to me before in a relationship, but there are these types of thoughts and feelings, and I'm definitely, like, conflicted now.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, well, how does your fiance feel about this crush that you have on this other guy? I don't think they know.

[Brooke]

Well, it would be healthy if they did talk about it.

[Jeffrey]

I mean, honestly, that would be a good sign. True. Is that who we're calling? Are we calling your fiance to let him know, fill them in on the situation?

[Mo]

I do. I just want. I want you to call this dude because I think the connection is too real for. At least for me. So, like, I need to know how he feels, and, like, I'm just worried if I brush it off and go through my wedding and then spend the rest of my life with my, like, nice and amazing fiance.

[Ryder Strong]

But, like, second guessing?

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Mo]

Yeah. What if I didn't say anything to him and whatever, So I gotta want to know where he's at.

[Brooke]

I mean, Alexis just brought up a huge point. This guy's married.

[Mo]

I mean, I definitely don't think it's in my head, so I feel like he's sending me vibes.

[Jeffrey]

You can feel vibes. Maybe he feels like he made a mistake with his marriage.

[Brooke]

Dude, this is like Pandora's box. You're gonna open it, and you're not gonna be able to put anything back in it. It's just gonna be chaos.

[Jeffrey]

By the end of the phone call, both couples are happy, everyone's happy, and we've made a great relationship and mended.

[Ryder Strong]

All of the relationships.

[Jeffrey]

You never know when true love is gonna strike you.

[Brooke]

Well, hopefully it already struck him. He's married, she's engaged.

[Jeffrey]

All right, we're gonna come back and give you some advice, and then we're gonna let you call this other guy to try and feel out the vibe to see is there a real connection happening between you or is it all just in your head?

[Brooke]

Good luck coming up with advice, Brooke.

[Mo]

I really appreciate it, guys.

[Podcast Narrator]

Thank you.

[Jeffrey]

We're gonna do it right after this. Hold on. It's awkward.

[Mo]

It's Tuesday.

[Ryder Strong]

It's awkward Tuesday phone call.

[Jeffrey]

Before we get into the awkward Tuesday call, I just want to take a second real quick and do something I don't think I've ever done before and applaud. Brooke. Hey.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

I like that energy.

[Brooke]

Something's wrong.

[Jeffrey]

I will say you had ample cause during that first segment to jump right down our listeners throat and say, she is not a good person. She is doing emotional cheating. She deserves to have bad things happen to her in her relationship. That's amazing. Instead, Brooke, you showed growth and resilience.

[Brooke]

I feel like that's what you thought.

[Jeffrey]

That's 90% of the time. If someone says they're thinking of cheating, well, like, that is something that you are strongly against. But not today. You stepped back, you were thoughtful, and you promoted infidelity. She even said, let me die. You did. We salute you for your grunt. We have never heard you do that on the show before. And the only reason that I bring this up is because one of our listeners, Mo, recently met a guy out on a solo hike, and they've been vibing over the last few weeks hanging out both with their significant others. Significant others. And together. The problem is, like I said, said, she's engaged, he's married.

[Brooke]

Oh, just small problems.

[Jeffrey]

She's going to be walking down the aisle soon and has started to develop a crush on this other guy. What do you think that she should do? Because she wants to reach out to this guy that she's crushing on and try and feel him out, see if he might be feeling the same way. What do you Think.

[Brooke]

Okay, you should basically ask for his advice and say, hey, I have a friend's out of town, wedding coming up in a couple of weekends. My fiance can't go. What should I do? They're the fill in, and you're not asking him. Right, but then it's an opportunity for him to volunteer himself if that's a road he wants to go down.

[Jeffrey]

Judge's reaction.

[Mo]

That is actually genius. Like, I really love that.

[Brooke]

Don't give her that much credit.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, let's not inflate Brooks ego too much here. I mean, it was. Okay, advice. Jose, what do you think? Look, if anybody knows how to put a feeler out, which is what you want to do, it's your boy. All right? You need to listen. Listen to his voice and see if it changes after he says hello. So if it's like, click, hello. And then he hears you and he goes, oh, hi. Then you know he's putting out a vibe.

[Brooke]

That is so saying it's not vibes.

[Jeffrey]

That was just awkward hearing Jose do that.

[Brooke]

And you could judge it wrong. There's so much room for error there.

[Ryder Strong]

No.

[Jeffrey]

If he's trying to put it out, but maybe there's something to it. Mo, what do you think about, like, reading into some of his vocal cues?

[Mo]

Yes, I will give it a shot. I'm not 100% sure it will work.

[Jeffrey]

See, I could tell from your vocal cues right there that you're skeptical.

[Brooke]

See, you can see a lot.

[Jeffrey]

You got our advice. We're gonna dial this guy's number. Do. Do we know his name yet?

[Brooke]

Oh, yeah. Are we allowed to say his name? He's married.

[Jeffrey]

It's probably safer if you don't say his name in case this doesn't go the way we want it to. But I'm gonna dial it right now.

[Mo]

I was gonna say that. I'm like, can we just keep it like my name is fine?

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Okay. Beep it when he answers. Here we go. I'm calling it right now. Good luck.

[Mo's Crush]

Hello?

[Mo]

Hey, how are you?

[Mo's Crush]

Mo?

[Mo]

Yeah, what's up?

[Mo's Crush]

Oh, hey, I'm sorry. Are you calling from a different phone number or something?

[Mo]

Yeah, I'm using a different phone, but did I notice that your voice changed when you heard it? Was my voice.

[Mo's Crush]

I mean. Sure, I guess I recognize who you are. What do you mean?

[Mo]

Okay, never mind. No, that's okay. So how's your day going so far?

[Mo's Crush]

Fine. Yeah? Yeah, just sitting at work right now. How about you?

[Mo]

Oh, I'm actually home again because I have the day off. Thank God. But I was just kind of bored, so I just thought I'd reach out to you.

[Mo's Crush]

Oh, well, it's good to hear from you.

[Mo]

Yeah. I enjoyed, like, always hanging out with you and stuff, because I think we have, like, since our hike. It's just been, like, really good to have you around.

[Mo's Crush]

Yeah, it's been really good.

[Mo]

Well, I'm happy to hear. Just because it's been really good for me also. And it's just kind of hard these days to find people that you just mesh with. Well, you know what I mean.

[Mo's Crush]

Yeah. No, I mean, definitely. Are we just. We're just talking about how glad we are that we met each other right now or.

[Mo]

Well, yes. But also, I do have a question to ask, and it is kind of important.

[Mo's Crush]

All right, shoot. Yeah. I'm here for it.

[Mo]

Okay. I have a best friend. She's getting married in a couple weeks, and unfortunately, my fiance just informed me that he won't be able to attend because he's out of town on a work trip. So I was just wondering, like, what do you think I should do?

[Mo's Crush]

I got it. You need to borrow my car, don't you? I mean, you can. You can definitely take it if that helps you out. No problem.

[Mo]

Okay. So, like, you think I should go, though, right? Like, without him?

[Mo's Crush]

Yeah, definitely. Weddings are fun. Yeah.

[Mo]

But, like, I'll be alone.

[Mo's Crush]

But will you?

[Mo]

I don't know. Will I?

[Mo's Crush]

Well, I'm not really sure what we're talking about here, but I, you know, I support weddings. Anything can happen at a wedding. You know what I mean?

[Mo]

Okay. Okay. All right. And then also.

[Mo's Crush]

Is everything okay? You're sounding kind of all over the place with all this. Is everything all right?

[Mo]

Like, yes and no. Like, I'm very. My mind's all over the place, and I'm very stressed out because my wedding's coming up and, like, the venue and, like, the flowers and, like, everything is just so much. And, like, I have all of.

[Mo's Crush]

Hey, hey, hey. Don't. Don't sweat this. Yeah. It's all going to turn out okay. I am here for you. You and me, we're in this, you know, are.

[Mo]

Like, that's. Are we? Because, like, that's also kind of the questions I want. Questions I have. Like, I just love your personality. You're such a people person. Like, I. Like, I'm sure, like, when we go to restaurants, like, everyone's looking at you and, like, it's just, like, you're so.

[Mo's Crush]

I see where you're going with this. I understand. Yeah. I got need me to officiate your wedding is what you do, huh?

[Brooke]

What? The word.

[Jeffrey]

He just always doesn't get it.

[Brooke]

That's a great idea. Not uncomfortable at all.

[Mo's Crush]

What is.

[Brooke]

Oh, hi.

[Mo's Crush]

What is happening right now?

[Jeffrey]

Sorry to confuse you more.

[Brooke]

Yeah, got your answer there, Mo.

[Jeffrey]

Hey, man, I know you don't know who we are. We're a radio show. Call Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning that you are being featured on right now.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Hey.

[Mo's Crush]

Okay. Hi, I guess.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, hi. We.

[Brooke]

Why did we call Jeff?

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, you know, that's a good question, Brooke. You know, Mo has reached out to us for help with this phone call.

[Mo]

Because I wanted to know if you would officiate my wedding. And thank you. This was a great eye opening experience and thank you so much, my good friend.

[Mo's Crush]

Sure.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, right.

[Brooke]

Wow.

[Mo's Crush]

I'd be honored.

[Jeffrey]

We were such good friends.

[Brooke]

He's.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, now in the wedding.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

Okay.

[Mo's Crush]

Yeah, I'd be delighted.

[Mo]

I'm so happy to hear that. I was so nervous. I was so stressed out.

[Mo's Crush]

Yeah, really.

[Brooke]

And Mo, maybe. Maybe you just have to run this by one more person before you, you know. Yeah, sure. Give him the officiating job. Right?

[Mo]

Oh, I'm sure my fiance. My fiance loves him. Like, we all get along super great, so. Yeah, I'm sure my husband will be so happy.

[Mo's Crush]

Oh, man, I thought you guys were talking about my wife. Yeah, no, she won't care.

[Jeffrey]

Okay.

[Brooke]

What a great lady. We love her. You love her, right, Ricky?

[Mo's Crush]

Yeah, definitely.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah, totally.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, so this is great. We reached out to this guy hoping to figure out some much needed answers to get some closure before the big wedding day.

[Brooke]

Yeah, it's going to be a special day and we.

[Jeffrey]

I, Mo, I think we got those answers for you. Is that right?

[Mo]

Yes. Yes. Yes, you did.

[Brooke]

Okay, all right, maybe. Maybe do some soul searching. See if you can come up with other answers in your life.

[Jeffrey]

Yes, like who's gonna cater the wedding? Maybe Lizzie's wife can cater it too.

[Brooke]

That's what I meant.

[Podcast Narrator]

Yep.

[Brooke]

Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

[Ryder Strong]

This is Ryder Strong and I have a new podcast called the Red Weather.

[Podcast Narrator]

It was many and many a year ago in a kingdom by the sea.

[Ryder Strong]

In 1995, my neighbor Anna Traynor disappeared from a commune. It was hard to wrap your head around. It was nature and trees and praying and drugs.

[Jeffrey]

So, no, I am not your guru.

[Ryder Strong]

And back then I lied to my parents, I lied to police, I lied to everybody.

[Jeffrey]

There were years, Ryder, where I could.

[Podcast Narrator]

Not say your name.

[Ryder Strong]

I've decided to go back to my hometown In Northern California. Interview my friends, family, talk to police, journalists, whomever. I came to try to find out what actually happened.

[Jeffrey]

Isn't it a little bit weird that they obsess over hippies in the woods and not the obvious boyfriend?

[Brooke]

They have had this case for 30 years.

[Jeffrey]

I'll teach you sons of come around here.

[Ryder Strong]

And my wife. Boom.

[Jeffrey]

Boom.

[Ryder Strong]

This is the red weather. Listen to the red Weather on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Jeffrey]

Segregation in the day, integration at night.

[Podcast Narrator]

When segregation was the law, one mysterious black club owner had his own rules.

[Jeffrey]

We didn't worry about what went on outside. It was like stepping in another world.

[Podcast Narrator]

Inside Charlie's Place, black and white people danced together. But not everyone was happy about it.

[Brooke]

You saw the kkk.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. They was dressed up in their uniform. The KKK set out to raid Charlie, take him away from here. Charlie was an example of power. They had to crush him.

[Podcast Narrator]

From Atlas Obscura, Rococo Punch and visit Myrtle beach comes Charlie's Place, a story that was nearly lost to time until now. Listen to Charlie's place on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Brooke]

O. That one was a lot. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, it's freaking Jeffrey. Thank you so much for sticking through with it. Unfortunately, we never got an update from her. No, we didn't. And I'm proud on the phone. We never spoiled it. Like, the real reason we actually kept it. Yeah, I don't know. That's when some people in the comments. Really? Hey, I. Yeah. I don't know if we should have step. Yeah, that's true. But I take the no update as the wedding probably never happened. True. That would be my guess. Let's hope. Yeah. Because if she wanted to update us and have him back on the phone, it would all be about how he officiated her wedding. Oh, my God, you're right.

[Podcast Narrator]

We would have had to hear about that.

[Brooke]

Yeah. So maybe he heard this podcast. I have no idea.

[Mo]

True.

[Brooke]

I mean, there was a lot of comments. Maybe somebody knew him. What did someone have to say?

[Podcast Narrator]

A lot.

[Brooke]

I hope her fiance hears this. Yeah. Huge red flag. Flag. Yes. I'm only seven minutes in and all I'm hearing is red flags. I listen religiously, and this is the first time I've truly cringed. Oh, my God. If you are getting married and thinking about somebody else, like, just. Just don't do it.

[Jeffrey]

That's more than cold feet.

[Brooke]

Yeah. Don't call the radio show for help. I guess Exactly. But hey, it's good drama for us. Hey, thank you for being here. Definitely subscribe and we'll be back tomorrow with another podcast.

[Ryder Strong]

Yes, this is Ryder Strong and I have a new podcast called the red weather. In 1995, my neighbor Anna Trainor disappeared from a commune. It was nature and trees and praying and drugs.

[Jeffrey]

So no, I am not your guru.

[Ryder Strong]

Back then I lied to everybody.

[Brooke]

They have had this case for 30 years.

[Ryder Strong]

I'm going back to my hometown to uncover the truth. Listen to the Red web on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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[Anna Sinfield]

Hello, it's me, Anna Sinfield, the host of the Girlfriends. I'm back with more one off interviews with some truly kick ass women on the Girlfriends Spotlight I'm going to climb.

[Brooke]

This is badness hereditary.

[Mo]

Let's see how we can stop killing.

[Brooke]

I'm not too intimidated by her.

[Anna Sinfield]

What are you talking about? Listen to the Girlfriend Spotlight on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Podcast Narrator]

On the Adventures of Curiosity Cove podcast. When Peanut Butter disappears from school, Ella, Scout and Layla launch a full detective mission. Their search leads them back in time to meet a brilliant inventor whose curiosity changed the world in this Black History Month adventure. Asking questions, thinking creatively can lead to amazing discoveries. Listen to adventures of Curiosity Cove every Monday from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to Dirty Rush, the truth about Sorority Life, the Good, the Bad and the Sisterhood with your hosts, me, Gia Giudice, Daisy Kent and Jennifer Fessler. The reality of Greek life has been a mystery for those outside the sorority circles until now. Is it really a supportive sisterhood that's simply misunderstood? Or is there something more scandalous happening on campuses across the country? Let's get dirty. Listen to Dirty rush on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.