Closure Call: Case of the Missing Roommate

Summary

Podcast Summary: Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Episode Title: Closure Call: Case of the Missing Roommate
Release Date: March 30, 2025
Host/Author: iHeartPodcasts

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Introduction to the Episode

In this emotionally charged episode of "Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update," hosts Brooke and Jeffrey introduce a new segment titled "Closure Call." This segment is designed to help listeners gain closure by reconnecting with someone from their past who has abruptly ended contact, such as ex-partners, family members, or, in this unique case, a former roommate. The episode titled "Case of the Missing Roommate" delves into one listener’s desperate search for answers about his roommate Roy's sudden disappearance four years prior.

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Overview of the Closure Call Segment

At the outset (04:49), Brooke and Jeffrey explain that a Closure Call involves their producer facilitating communication between a listener and someone from their past. The process includes:

1. Listener Submission: The listener, Adam, provides background and questions he wishes to ask his missing roommate, Roy.
2. Producer Intervention: The producer reaches out to Roy, obtains his consent, and gathers his responses to Adam’s questions.
3. Live Reading: During the podcast, Brooke and Jeffrey read Roy’s responses to Adam’s questions, aiming to provide Adam with the clarity and closure he seeks.

Notable Quote:

Jeffrey: “We gotta set ourselves up. See, retirement is the long game. We gotta make moves and make them early.” (02:21)

(Note: This quote was part of the introductory content before the Closure Call segment and is included here to highlight the hosts' approach to setting up meaningful conversations.)

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Listener Story: The Case of the Missing Roommate

Adam's Story (07:06):
Adam shares his troubling experience of living with Roy, who was not just a roommate but a close friend. Four years ago, Adam returned home from work to find Roy had vanished without a trace—no notes, no explanations, and strangely, Roy’s cat was left behind. Important possessions like Roy’s clothes were taken, but essential items such as the PlayStation and the cat remained. This abrupt departure left Adam seeking answers and struggling with the lack of closure.

Key Points:

• Sudden Disappearance: Roy left without warning, causing significant emotional distress.
• Left Behind Belongings: Only essential items and Roy's cat were left, suggesting intentional departure.
• Unanswered Questions: Adam couldn't understand why Roy left, especially since they were good friends.

Notable Quote:

Adam: “I would eat his food sometimes... I hardly ever did dishes.” (10:01)

(Adam acknowledges his own shortcomings as a roommate, hinting at possible reasons behind Roy’s departure.)

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Discussion Between Brooke and Jeffrey

Emotional Tone (03:10):
The hosts emphasize the emotional weight of Closure Calls, describing them as one of the most serious and emotional segments they handle. They prepare listeners for an intense and heartfelt discussion, encouraging Adam to stay composed throughout the process.

Notable Quote:

Brooke: “We’re gonna do a closure call. Yeah, those are intense.” (03:10)

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Questions and Responses with Roy

Question 1: Lack of Communication (12:00)
Adam’s Statement:
Adam expresses his confusion and hurt over Roy’s sudden departure without any communication or explanation.

Roy’s Response:
Roy accuses Adam of stealing and name-changing his cat, revealing underlying tensions that Adam hadn’t realized were significant.

Notable Quote:

Roy: “Really? You have no idea, Adam. I was the one who brought the cat into the house and called him Paul. You changed his name to Fluffy Bottoms and even got his tag changed to reflect that.” (15:12)

Analysis:
The revelation about the cat indicates that what seemed like minor roommate grievances had a deeper emotional impact on Roy, leading to his abrupt exit.

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Question 2: Specific Examples for Growth (16:47)
Adam’s Request:
Adam asks Roy to provide specific examples of his toxic behavior to understand and grow from his mistakes.

Roy’s Response:
Roy cites Adam’s habit of spoiling movie endings during their planned movie nights, which ruined the experience and led to Roy distancing himself.

Notable Quote:

Roy: “You thought it was hilarious and did that 10 times until I stopped watching movies with you.” (17:31)

Analysis:
While initially appearing trivial, repeated betrayals of trust during shared activities accumulated, contributing to Roy’s decision to leave.

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Question 3: Birthday Party Incident (19:00)
Adam’s Invitation:
Adam invites Roy to his upcoming birthday party, hoping to mend fences and rebuild their friendship.

Roy’s Response:
Roy recalls a “birthday disaster” where Adam allegedly forgot to invite him to his surprise birthday party, leading to feelings of neglect and frustration.

Notable Quote:

Roy: “Don’t you remember the great birthday disaster? You threw me that surprise birthday party but forgot to invite me? I came home and the party was done.” (19:25)

Analysis:
This incident underscores a lack of effective communication and consideration, further straining their relationship.

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Question 4: Forgiveness and Moving Forward (20:46)
Adam’s Plea:
Adam seeks Roy’s forgiveness, acknowledging his mistakes and expressing a desire to move past them.

Roy’s Response:
Roy firmly states that he cannot forgive Adam, indicating that the accumulated grievances have left irreparable damage in their relationship.

Notable Quote:

Roy: “No. And I know all this would happen again if we hung out. You're too immature and life's a big joke to you.” (21:00)

Analysis:
Roy’s inability to forgive suggests that the relationship was damaged beyond repair, leaving Adam with lingering questions and unresolved feelings.

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Conclusion and Takeaways

Hosts' Reflection (22:08):
Brooke and Jeffrey discuss the outcome of the Closure Call, highlighting the importance of mutual respect and effective communication in relationships. They acknowledge Adam’s struggle for closure and the harsh realities of unresolved conflicts.

Notable Quote:

Jeffrey: “I did get closure. Life is a giant joke and I thought Roy was a jokester with me, but apparently, he's taking it all serious.” (22:38)

Final Thoughts:

• Closure is Complex: Sometimes, despite sincere efforts, closure may not be attainable if the other party remains unresponsive or unwilling to reconcile.
• Self-Reflection: Adam’s acknowledgment of his own faults is a crucial step toward personal growth, even if the relationship cannot be salvaged.
• Emotional Healing: Engaging in Closure Calls can provide a platform for listeners to express unresolved emotions and seek understanding, fostering emotional healing.

Hosts' Encouragement (22:16):
Brooke and Jeffrey encourage listeners to pursue closure through open communication and self-reflection, emphasizing that understanding one’s own actions is key to moving forward.

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Additional Notes

• Tone and Interaction: The episode balances humor with emotional depth, as the hosts navigate through Adam’s painful experience with light-hearted banter while addressing serious emotional topics.
• Engagement with Audience: Brooke and Jeffrey invite listeners to share their stories and engage with comments, fostering a supportive community atmosphere.

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Timestamps Reference

• 04:49 – Start of "Second Date Update" Podcast
• 07:06 – Listener's Story Introduction
• 10:01 – Adam Admitting Faults
• 12:00 – First Question to Roy
• 15:12 – Roy’s Response to Question 1
• 16:47 – Second Question to Roy
• 17:31 – Roy’s Response to Question 2
• 19:00 – Third Question to Roy
• 19:25 – Roy’s Response to Question 3
• 20:46 – Fourth Question to Roy
• 21:00 – Roy’s Response to Question 4
• 22:08 – Hosts' Reflection on Closure Call

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This episode serves as a poignant exploration of friendship dynamics, the impact of seemingly minor actions on relationships, and the challenging journey toward emotional closure.

Transcript

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[Vanessa Marshall]

Hey, you found it. The second Date Update podcast. It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Thanks so much for being here, especially on a Sunday.

[Jon Lee Brody]

Totally.

[Vanessa Marshall]

You know, and Sunday we've really been using to introduce you to all sorts of new relationship drama segments that we do on the show. And today I think it's the first one we've done on the second date update podcast. Yeah, it is. We're gonna do a closure call.

[Taylor Gray]

Ye, those are intense.

[Vanessa Marshall]

I mean, sometimes. Yeah, they really are. You know, it's probably the most serious thing that we do on the show. Yeah, it is. Good serious. Yeah, good serious. And just emotional maybe is a better word than serious. Intense maybe.

[Taylor Gray]

Yeah. I don't laugh at all. I cry through the whole thing.

[Vanessa Marshall]

All of us. So everybody grab your tissues. Get ready. A closure call is where we have our producer work with one of our listeners to get in touch with somebody from their past. It could be like a family member, a lot of exes. We had a bully one time. Oh, a bully, that's right.

[Taylor Gray]

An old roommate that just disappeared once.

[Vanessa Marshall]

Yeah. Which is a hint for what today's is, by the way. Anyway, they come up with questions to ask this person that has broken off contact with them for sometimes, like, years and years and years. Yeah, yeah. And then we read the responses live on air and hopefully at the end, you know, give them a chance to move forward, you know, crush them.

[Taylor Gray]

Because they don't know they're going to hear this.

[Vanessa Marshall]

Well, that's not the goal. That's not the goal. But sometimes it does happen. All right, so now you understand what it is. Hopefully you enjoy it. Definitely. Let us know in the comments. We love reading your comments. We got some today. Yes. I saw one from. So original. Yes. That many O's. Okay. Yes. Who said my favorite moments are when Jeffrey's genuine laugh sneaks out. It's hilariously adorable. Yeah.

[Taylor Gray]

He tries to suppress it. I swear.

[Vanessa Marshall]

He has to. He works with us because off air, Jeff laughs so much. And I was like, he's one of those people that makes me feel really good about myself because he laughs at everything you say. No, sometimes when we'll go out to drinks, we'll be like on the first drink and like, are you. Are you drunk? Yeah.

[Taylor Gray]

Look, I don't think he's an alcoholic, but got one Beer in front of him and some good food. He's a happy guy.

[Vanessa Marshall]

He's really happy. Yeah. Like, who is this? Yeah, I know. All right, let's get to the closure call. Thanks for being here. We got a brand new show tomorrow. Of course, too. So come back. But, hey, hope you enjoy.

[Taylor Gray]

Who knows you better than anyone else? You may think your mom or your sibling or your spouse, but no, the truth is, nobody sees you like a roommate sees you. Oh, boy, you're right. Even my old roommate probably knows more about me than my family. Yeah, they know all your annoying little habits, your lazy tendencies, and what your soapy silhouette looks like through that shower curtain. Wait, what they've seen? That's why one of our listeners is so distraught. Because he and his roommate became real close friends till everything suddenly changed on a random day four years ago. And he has never got the answers for what really happened on that day. That's why he's enlisted our help for a brand new closure call. We're going to get some answers coming up right after this. Who knows you better than anyone else? You may think your mom or your sibling or your spouse, but no, the truth is, nobody sees you like a roommate sees you. Oh, boy, you're right. Even my old roommate probably knows more about me than my family. Yeah, they know all your annoying little habits, your lazy tendencies, and what your soapy, silly silhouette looks like through that shower curtain. Wait, what they've seen? That's why one of our listeners is so distraught, because he and his roommate became real close friends till everything suddenly changed on a random day four years ago. And he has never got the answers for what really happened on that day. That's why he's enlisted our help for a brand new closure call. We're gonna get some answers coming up right after this. We've been doing closure calls for a while now, and most time when people need closure, it's from an ex, boyfriend or a family member.

[Vanessa Marshall]

Yeah, for sure.

[Taylor Gray]

Which I know in Brook's case is sometimes the same thing, but a little confusing. But today. Today's interesting because I'd say not a lot of people feel like they need closure from a past roommate.

[Vanessa Marshall]

Oh. Oh, I could see that. I could totally see that relationship.

[Taylor Gray]

I mean, I try to avoid most of mine, but apparently that's what our listener, Adam is looking for today. Closure with one of his past roommate. So, Adam, welcome to the show.

[Jon Lee Brody]

Hey. Oh, thank you.

[Vanessa Marshall]

Is this person just a roommate? Because usually roommates are also your best friends and people that you love. You Know and care about, you know.

[Jon Lee Brody]

He was just a roommate. And then we became really close buddies.

[Taylor Gray]

Yeah, got it. You know, I moved into a house where I literally found it on Craigslist. Didn't know anyone. And then we became best friends.

[Vanessa Marshall]

Well, I mean, that's the easiest way to be friends with somebody and you know everything about them immediately.

[Taylor Gray]

Yeah.

[Vanessa Marshall]

Have you lived with somebody?

[Taylor Gray]

Oh, yeah.

[Jon Lee Brody]

Yeah. I mean, that's how it was with him. We became great friends really quickly.

[Vanessa Marshall]

Oh, man, that's great. It's always nice to meet you, but some friends you can't live with. There's a difference.

[Taylor Gray]

And because this is a closure call. How long has it been since you were roommates with this guy?

[Vanessa Marshall]

Like, he's not in the next room right now, is he?

[Jon Lee Brody]

No, I wish. He's not here. He has been gone for four years now.

[Taylor Gray]

Oh, wow. Yes.

[Vanessa Marshall]

Did he move out of your guys's place?

[Jon Lee Brody]

Yeah. So the way it all went down was things were cool and all of a sudden he just wasn't there.

[Vanessa Marshall]

What do you mean? Like in the middle of the night, he moved his stuff out or what?

[Jon Lee Brody]

I would get home from work. I worked really early shifts and I would get home around 2, 3pm and he was there, always there, every single day. Showed up at home, the door's wide open.

[Vanessa Marshall]

What?

[Jon Lee Brody]

There's no note or anything. I, you know, kind of freaked me out. His cat was still there.

[Vanessa Marshall]

Wait, his cat? Your cat? Whose cat?

[Jon Lee Brody]

It was his cat. I mean, I love the cat. I, you know, I was a cool roommate. I fed the cat, played.

[Vanessa Marshall]

Was your roommate kidnapped and you never filed a report?

[Taylor Gray]

Because he's like, I just heard, help, help, help from down the street.

[Vanessa Marshall]

Yeah.

[Taylor Gray]

And that was it.

[Jon Lee Brody]

That's what I thought. I was freaking out. And I didn't call authorities or anything. And I waited a day or two. So I started asking around to different friends and families, and they were told from him that he just didn't want to be my roommate anymore.

[Taylor Gray]

What? I thought you said that you guys were, like, good buddies.

[Jon Lee Brody]

We were great buddies. We had movie night.

[Taylor Gray]

Oh, man, I can't movie night anymore.

[Vanessa Marshall]

This is a tragedy. I can't get over him leaving the cat. Did he take it? Did he take it? His stuff when he left?

[Jon Lee Brody]

He took some stuff. He took, like, some of his clothes. But he left PlayStation. He left, like, essentials.

[Taylor Gray]

I think that's most upset about the PlayStation more than the cat. Sorry, but we gotta give up. You know, we leave the PlayStation.

[Vanessa Marshall]

I feel like it sounds like he left for A weekend trip. And it was like, actually, this is nicer. I'm gonna stay.

[Taylor Gray]

Yeah, he went to Hawaii. He's like, oh, I'm gonna live here now. Yeah.

[Jon Lee Brody]

I mean, I know that I wasn't perfect. There were things that kicked him off. I would eat his food sometimes.

[Taylor Gray]

Oh, you were that guy. Well, did he label it?

[Vanessa Marshall]

Oh, no.

[Taylor Gray]

Did he label it as, like, his food, not allowed to touch?

[Jon Lee Brody]

There was no label.

[Taylor Gray]

Well, there you go. You got.

[Vanessa Marshall]

There's only two of you living there. You don't have to label it. If it's not yours, then it's his.

[Taylor Gray]

If you didn't want me to eat it, don't put it in our fridge. It's a shared space. What, you're gonna label each side of the couch now?

[Vanessa Marshall]

Remind me never to be a roommate with Jeffrey.

[Taylor Gray]

O, you got your own house.

[Vanessa Marshall]

So wait, do you think he was mad at you? Because that's what you're kind of implying.

[Jon Lee Brody]

I mean, me eating some of his food every now and then or. The other big one was that I hardly ever did dishes.

[Vanessa Marshall]

You didn't do your own dishes, and you ate his food. You still wouldn't leave your cat and move.

[Taylor Gray]

Yeah, it's not that dramatic.

[Jon Lee Brody]

You know, I cleaned the cat's litter, and I held up my end of some of the bargain, and some of the bargain. I could do more dishes if that was the issue.

[Vanessa Marshall]

But he never talked to you about it.

[Jon Lee Brody]

Yeah. It couldn't have just been about silly little things like that. And I know it's kind of weird because he was just my roommate, and I know it was four years ago, but still, it is haunting me that this person would just up and go, and I really would love some closure. I would love to know what I did.

[Vanessa Marshall]

Huh.

[Taylor Gray]

Okay. This is. I mean, I want to know too.

[Vanessa Marshall]

Yes.

[Taylor Gray]

Yeah. So if our audience doesn't know or remember how this segment works, Adam does, obviously. Our producers have been working with him to track down his roommate Roy. And we went to Roy's Instagram. Actually, our producer's been sending him a lot of messages. And Roy finally responded. We asked him if we could send him four questions from Adam.

[Vanessa Marshall]

Okay. And these are questions that Adam came up with with our producer.

[Taylor Gray]

Yes, with help. When you ask him that, do you say this doesn't count as one of the questions?

[Vanessa Marshall]

Because I was attacked with, like, is it three or four?

[Taylor Gray]

Then he did agree to answer brand new questions, and we got his responses ready right now.

[Vanessa Marshall]

This.

[Taylor Gray]

This could get a little bit intense for you. Adam, are you Ready for it.

[Jon Lee Brody]

Did you already read them? Do you already know what he said?

[Taylor Gray]

I haven't read them, no.

[Vanessa Marshall]

Then how do you know they're intense?

[Taylor Gray]

Well, I'm just guessing. Producer probably has read them.

[Vanessa Marshall]

All right.

[Taylor Gray]

I don't know. Tell Jeff we're all going to read them together and find out what happened to your old roommate Roy. Hopefully give you a little bit of finality on it when we do. What?

[Vanessa Marshall]

Brook, can I just ask, where's the cat now? I was wondering that, too. I.

[Taylor Gray]

If that's not in the questions that was asked, then we don't have an answer.

[Vanessa Marshall]

He has the cat.

[Taylor Gray]

Oh.

[Jon Lee Brody]

Oh, the cat is sitting by my feet right now.

[Taylor Gray]

All right.

[Vanessa Marshall]

We needed to get animal welfare out of the way before we move on to their relationship.

[Jon Lee Brody]

We're on speakerphone, so if it's anything that would really hurt the cat's feelings.

[Taylor Gray]

Okay, well, maybe arm up that cat when we come back and do the rest of your closure call right after this.

[Jon Lee Brody]

Thank you.

[Taylor Gray]

If you're just joining us, we're in the middle of a closure call with Adam, who, just to recap, had a roommate named Roy. And four years ago, Adam came home to find Roy was gone.

[Vanessa Marshall]

Yes.

[Taylor Gray]

Along with most of his belongings. Left behind his cat and a video game system. Dude.

[Vanessa Marshall]

And they were friends. Like, it's so crazy. I am so invested in this.

[Taylor Gray]

He also left behind a brawl.

[Vanessa Marshall]

Yeah, that's right, Jose.

[Taylor Gray]

No note or indication as to where Roy went. So Adam's been wondering for years, where did my buddy go and who's gonna do my dishes now? Because, Adam, you admit it. There were certain things you did as a roommate that were not so good. Certain things were really good. But what was the overall dynamic between you and Roy?

[Jon Lee Brody]

If I were to paint a picture, we were jokesters together. There was a lot of laughter going on.

[Vanessa Marshall]

That's a good sign. Well, and it's so weird because the friends and the family all said that left because he didn't want to be roommates.

[Taylor Gray]

Yeah.

[Vanessa Marshall]

So it was obviously planned a little bit.

[Taylor Gray]

Exactly. And before we get to these questions, that's the reason that Adam reached out to us in the first place, because hearing stuff like that must hurt.

[Vanessa Marshall]

Yeah.

[Taylor Gray]

Everybody said the same thing.

[Jon Lee Brody]

I don't. I don't even want to accept that that is what he said.

[Vanessa Marshall]

Oh, he would say that. You're. Huh.

[Taylor Gray]

All right, well, let's get right to it, because we have the four questions that you sent to Roy. He has answered all four of them. Let's get to question Number one, you said, hey, man, it's been almost four years. I still don't know why you moved out without telling me or leaving a note. I felt like we were great friends and I'd like some closure. Okay. Wow. That's not much of a question. That's more of a statement there. But you know I'm not gonna critique you.

[Vanessa Marshall]

That was the end.

[Jon Lee Brody]

Okay.

[Vanessa Marshall]

Yeah.

[Taylor Gray]

There was no question. It's like, can you explain? Yeah, it's more of like. Yeah. So Roy responded. He wrote. Really? You have no idea, Adam.

[Vanessa Marshall]

What? Adam.

[Taylor Gray]

Okay, for starters, you stole my cat.

[Vanessa Marshall]

What are you talking about? Yeah, you said that Roy left the cat. Is that not true?

[Jon Lee Brody]

Yeah, he left the cat here. What? That's it.

[Taylor Gray]

He says I was the one who brought the cat into the house and called him Paul. You changed his name to Fluffy Bottoms and even got his tag changed to reflect that.

[Vanessa Marshall]

That's kind of weird.

[Jon Lee Brody]

First of all, much better name. Muffin Bottom is a great name. And the cat liked it.

[Vanessa Marshall]

No, no, no.

[Taylor Gray]

I think Paul's kind of a good name.

[Vanessa Marshall]

Paul's actually pretty funny. Yeah, I mean, if we're gonna. I just can't believe you changed. I'm starting to switch to team Roy right now.

[Jon Lee Brody]

I can't believe that he would be holding a grudge for four years over the cat having an extra little pizzazz.

[Vanessa Marshall]

Well, well, there's pretty big deal.

[Taylor Gray]

There's more to his first answer. He also said you would keep him in your room at night, then lock your door and pretend to be as wanted to see Paul. So that's one example of your incredibly toxic behavior right there.

[Vanessa Marshall]

Toxic? He dropped the word on you.

[Jon Lee Brody]

The cat wanted to sleep with me.

[Taylor Gray]

Okay, you want the cat.

[Jon Lee Brody]

And everyone locks their door when they go to bed at night.

[Vanessa Marshall]

Listen, you leave it cracked. Actually, yeah. We're not trying to attack you, but it sounds like you need to take a moment to take a deep breath and accept some okay self reflect.

[Taylor Gray]

The only person who could honestly answer that is his cat. And so we don't have time to do a whole like questionnaire for the cats. We have to stick with the questions to Roy here. Let's go to number two. Says, I know I wasn't the perfect roommate.

[Vanessa Marshall]

Okay, that's good. That's admitting some guilt there.

[Taylor Gray]

But if I responsibility, if it was something I did when I lived with you, could you please give me a specific example that I could grow from? He already did. Sure. But remember, when we write these, we don't have the answers back one at A time we send them all in one mass email.

[Vanessa Marshall]

Adam, are you ready to hear this? Because it didn't feel like you were ready to hear the cat nappy situation.

[Jon Lee Brody]

I. I will accept it. The cat threw me off. That threw me off.

[Taylor Gray]

I feel optimistic about where this is going. So his response was, okay, you want more? What about Netflix Sundays, when we would plan on watching a movie together? Every Sunday, movie night. And then once we were a half hour in, you'd pause the film and tell me the ending.

[Vanessa Marshall]

What?

[Taylor Gray]

You thought it was hilarious and did that 10 times until I stopped watching movies with you. Maybe once made.

[Vanessa Marshall]

No, that's not funny.

[Taylor Gray]

Well, sometimes so offended. Sometimes it's better to spoil the ending so you don't suffer through a bad movie. It's not even like he did it.

[Vanessa Marshall]

Before the movie started. You let the man get a half an hour into a film and then ruined it.

[Jon Lee Brody]

Okay, all right. I will say. And I'll say calmly, that is fair. It's not worth losing a friendship over. Okay, I may have told him the ending of Breaking Bad, but it was very funny.

[Taylor Gray]

Oh, I still don't know the ending of that, actually.

[Vanessa Marshall]

How many seasons into Breaking Bad were you before you ruined the end?

[Jon Lee Brody]

Wow.

[Taylor Gray]

I mean, Brooke is really offended over the spoiling of movies that triggered.

[Vanessa Marshall]

I mean, dude, I'll tell you, there was one time when my husband ripped out the last two pages of a book I was invested in.

[Jon Lee Brody]

That's hysterical.

[Vanessa Marshall]

It's the same.

[Taylor Gray]

He likes that.

[Vanessa Marshall]

He likes that one. Giving him ideas.

[Taylor Gray]

Maybe if you need a new roommate. Brooke's husband. Husband could be it.

[Vanessa Marshall]

But did Roy ever tell. Did Roy ever tell you that he didn't like that?

[Jon Lee Brody]

No, he did.

[Taylor Gray]

Brooke, this is not a closure call for you and you're movie watching and book reading. This is for Adam with his old roommate Roy.

[Vanessa Marshall]

Yeah, and it's not going well. What's the next question?

[Taylor Gray]

Jeff, get to question question number three that we sent.

[Jon Lee Brody]

I don't even know if I need to hear anymore.

[Taylor Gray]

Well, Brooke needs to hear it.

[Vanessa Marshall]

She's in.

[Taylor Gray]

I'm upset we sent. I know it's been a long time, but it would really mean a lot to me if you came to my birthday party next. I would love to see you.

[Vanessa Marshall]

That's really sweet.

[Jon Lee Brody]

I'd like him there. It's my birthday. It's a big one.

[Taylor Gray]

This is before we knew. So Roy responded back saying, are you trolling me with this? Don't you remember the great birthday disaster?

[Vanessa Marshall]

What? Oh, no. There's a birthday ever not joking.

[Taylor Gray]

You threw me that surprise birthday party but forgot to invite. Invite me? Or did you do it on purpose?

[Vanessa Marshall]

What?

[Taylor Gray]

What? I came home and the party was done. All my friends had left. Then you showed me the pics on Instagram. What happened there, Adam?

[Jon Lee Brody]

Okay, I did a lot of work for it, and I. I went and I got the cake and I did all the secret invites, set up the whole party, and it was an honest mistake. I just. Just forgot the one thing.

[Taylor Gray]

Oh, wait. I wanted to text him in the.

[Vanessa Marshall]

Middle of the party and tell him to get over to the house.

[Jon Lee Brody]

We were having fun.

[Taylor Gray]

I'm sure you left him a slice of cake for when he got home, right? You know who'd like this? Roy. He would love this. Anyway, what were we talking about? Oh, yeah. Roy's birthday.

[Vanessa Marshall]

Yeah.

[Jon Lee Brody]

Oh, Adam, I totally did not do it on purpose. I. I know that it sounds like I did. Dead.

[Taylor Gray]

Okay.

[Vanessa Marshall]

And how messed up that all of his friends didn't stay and just.

[Taylor Gray]

It was a really good party that he threw, obviously.

[Vanessa Marshall]

So it sounds like Roy's not coming to Adam's birthday.

[Taylor Gray]

Hold on. We have time for one more question here. This could salvage the entire friendship and maybe even have him moving back in with you.

[Vanessa Marshall]

Because I hope you're learning something from this.

[Taylor Gray]

Adam wrote, no matter what I did, do you think you could ever forget? Forgive me?

[Vanessa Marshall]

Oh, God.

[Taylor Gray]

Brooke doesn't forgive you.

[Vanessa Marshall]

But that doesn't matter in there. But, you know.

[Jon Lee Brody]

Well, the. The subtext is. Oh, there's a question there of, do you forgive me? Will you come back to me and the cat?

[Taylor Gray]

The cat you kind of stole and renamed and locked in your bedroom. Yeah, so he responded, no. And I know all this would happen again if we hung out. You're wa. Too immature and life's a big joke to you. Like every time you'd ask me to stop at the drive thru on the way home and pick up food, then you'd call ahead and tell the workers I was a missing person. It got old. That's amazing. That's the only funny one you did. They're like, oh, my God, I found him.

[Vanessa Marshall]

That was.

[Jon Lee Brody]

Was funny, though. And it was creative.

[Taylor Gray]

Even Brook's laughing at that one. You're like, that one in every 20 is going to be actually good. Yes.

[Jon Lee Brody]

That wasn't his.

[Vanessa Marshall]

Here's the thing, Adam. You've got to balance all this stuff with also some meaningful relationship things.

[Jon Lee Brody]

I think it was balanced, though.

[Vanessa Marshall]

I don't think it was. I feel like Roy left with no peace. You just made his life living hell.

[Jon Lee Brody]

Yeah, I'm willing to accept that he doesn't want to come back. I'll have to break it to the cat and I don't know how the cat's gonna take this.

[Taylor Gray]

You know, at the end of the day, the goal was to get some closure for you, Adam, about what happen to your roommate. Do you feel like you got it?

[Jon Lee Brody]

You know what? I did get closure. Life is a giant joke and I thought Roy was a jokester with me, but apparently he's taking it all serious.

[Vanessa Marshall]

Need to find the middle ground there, Adam.

[Taylor Gray]

Anyway, go ahead, Adam. Feel free to hop on Craigslist and get yourself a new roommate. They have no idea.

[Vanessa Marshall]

Hopefully none of them listen to this. They do in the morning.

[Taylor Gray]

And happy belated birthday to Roy, by the way, if you're listening, listening.

[Jon Lee Brody]

I'll wish him happy birthday. He's not gonna be there. It's my birthday.

[Taylor Gray]

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[Taylor Gray]

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[Vanessa Marshall]

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[Taylor Gray]

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[Vanessa Marshall]

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[Taylor Gray]

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