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Write these down. Gentlemen, other than. Ma'am, can I get your license and registration, please? Oh, yeah, he's gonna get your registration. What about asking for, like, my Starbucks order, you know? Wait, that's simple. Buying me a coffee, that changes my whole day. I thought you had a higher price than that. You shot the espresso over ice. I'm sorry, that is a high price. Wow. I don't know about that move, but one of our listeners says he was taught something that he claims can get any member of the opposite sex to go in for the kiss right after you meet them. Okay. A kiss. I'm sorry, after you meet them. Right, when you meet them. That's wild. I don't believe this. I'm curious to find out what it is. So let's talk to Joseph. Now, Joseph, you got to be careful, cuz we all might try to kiss you once we hear it. But tell us about this move that you learned. Okay, well, I want to make this apparent. I want to make this known right now. I didn't even develop this. This came from a female friend of mine. Okay. Okay. Yeah. She said if you've been making eye contact with a woman, you know, at a bar or an event or maybe a party, all you have to do is walk up to her and you have to be nonchalant, look at them and say, hey, you're pretty. You want to make out? With the attitude of not really wanting to and don't care. Hey, you're. Hey, you're pretty. Want to make out? How do you feel? Too thirsty. Yeah. How do you come off like you don't want to when you say that? Yeah. Your entire demeanor, you know, maybe hold the drink, maybe look away and be like, hey, you know what? I find you pretty. You want to make out? Yeah. Maybe raise an eyebrow. You, like, wink a little bit, but. Jeff, just. Why are you practicing on me, bro? I know it's going to work. I'm going to tell you. It is hard to imagine this working. No. Okay. If you're attracted to the person, that works. If it's someone you're not attracted to it's not going to work. She's right. How did you feel hearing that word of advice from your friend? It was horrible. I was so uncomfortable. I'm like, yeah. I'm like, this should never work. I'm gonna get slapped. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. There's no logic. Yeah. So despite your better logic, you tried it. We did. We did. Because she said nine out of 10 times, they'll go for it. So she was like, you know, we're gonna go to a holiday party at her job, a work event. Oh, my God. At a work event. That's a risky move. It's not his work. Yeah, okay. It hurries. It's hers. But still. Still. That she's going to be. Oh, you're the girl that brought the guy. I wish this happened at our holiday parties. How many people work at her? Oh, yeah. At her office or wherever she is, man, it's like hundreds. Hundreds. Big company. You got a big Cool. Where they throw actually cool parties. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. I've been to those. Got it with other friends. Okay. Yeah. So, like, it was like an open bar. And she said, you know, a lot of cute girls work with her at her company. So I was like, okay. You know, with the skepticism, you know, and he also told me that, you know, we didn't have to hang, hang around each other, just get out there, mingle. And that's what we did. Oh, yeah. Because I was worried that you were going to look like the boyfriend, you know, because if everyone asks, who's your. Like, how are you there? People are like, how are you here with hundreds? When you go to those big ones, nobody asks. Yeah, okay. You don't know because what department do you work in? Yeah. So you. You just went to the party, and first cute girl you saw, you just walked right up to her and used the line. Oh, no, that is not how that happened. I was standing around for at least an hour and a half. Just. I was nervous. Think about this. Meeting someone for the first time who's attractive is a little nerve wracking. The first kiss is always nerve wracking. Doing them at the same time and in, like, a public event. You can't just go to your bedroom like you're in. And you better not have eaten any of the appetizers because you want to have good breath. Yeah. Yeah. So, like, at what point did you actually try it or did you get there? When the drinks came and this is an open bar. The Courage Juice came in and I spotted this really really cute girl. And I went up to her and I gave the line, and she was like, you know what? It's the holidays. Why not shut. And she grabbed me by the hand, led me to a quiet corner, and we made out. No way. You're a legend. Oh, my God. It wasn't even just, like, a quick kiss or anything. She got another location to kiss. That's kind of cool. Getting worked. It was crazy. You didn't even. At what point did you learn her name in the middle of it. My name's Jess. Did you get the name? She did give me the name. Her name was Katrina. Okay. Okay. We talked like, 10, 15 minutes after our makeout. Oh, wow. So you made a connection. Get all the. All the hard stuff out of the way now. It's easy. But then what? The night ends? Or you, like, do you. Or how many other women. How many other women do you use this on at the work party? No, no, it was. It was just her, and she gave me her number, and it was like, wow. I was like, I can't believe that actually worked, bro. So did you stop? Did you because you felt chemistry with her or what? No, I felt like I was batting one for one. I wanted to get out of there. I want to leave when you're on top. I like that. Did you guys get to connect? Did you talk after? Have you texted or anything? It was like, here and there, you know, so some. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Just a little bit. Maybe she feels awkward for making out with somebody at her own. A woman who leads a man into a corner is not embarrassed. She doesn't remember. It's liquid courage. Yeah. After an hour and a half of drinking, I mean, what about hope? What about your friend? What does your friend say about her co worker? Like, did you tell her what happened? Kind of. I told my friend that the move worked, and she was like, oh, my God, who was it? But I didn't want to say because, you know, I didn't want to, like, have it weird for her, like, at her company. What if she brought you and told you to do it? I mean, honestly, there's so many people that work there. She may not even know her. She could be a plus one of somebody. Yeah. Oh, that's a good point. There's a lot of. Okay, so your friend doesn't know who it is. And you've been trying to reach Katrina for how long? For a little second now. A little second. Okay, well, actually have a date and see if there's, like, a real connection there. Yeah. A sober date or starting sober, maybe. That doesn't sound very fun. Okay, maybe not sober, but a date. Yeah. Well, we'll try and arrange something for you with you and Katrina Trina when we come back. Get you your second date update right after this. Hold on. Second date update. Today we learned about a hot dating hack. Yeah, well, kind of. Yeah, sorta. Where apparently if you go up to any woman with a nonchalant attitude and casually say, hey, you're cute, you want to make out, a lot of times if they're single, they'll say yes to that. Wow. And maybe even if they're not single, if you deliver it the right way. Apparently Jeff isn't nonchalant enough because nobody in this room is making out with him yet. Keep saying it over and over. I did not do it right. But no, the thing is, we never asked. What do you do if the response back is no or what? Yeah, or just something besides yes. Who are you? You are embarrassed and you shy away. Well, that's not a good look. You hope that you never see them again. Let's ask our listener, Joseph, if any of our listeners want to try this move for themselves. What are you supposed to say to a rejection? Well, if they say no, you say, yeah, no problem. Just find me when you're ready. Oh, no problem. Just find me when you're ready. Oh, my God, that's so. I want them to say no. Because then you really don't care. You're like, okay, no worries, I change your mind. I would have said, me neither. I don't want to. I wasn't asking you. The thing is, Joseph liked Katrina, the girl that he made out with at the holiday party. So let's reach out to her and see if we can figure out why she's not going for like an actual date. By the way, can we not call him out on this is a move that he like or that it was even a bet? Like, when she picks up, don't be like the trick worked on you. You know, the thing is, is that he really likes her. That's why we're calling Brooke. Why are you looking at me for that? Alexis is the one that usually ruins these. Alexis. Okay, Constant chatty Kathy over there dropping all the show. You are so self aware. So here. All right, Alexis, pipe down. We're going to call this girl down. All right? Don't ruin this for us. Here we go. Hello? Hey, is this Katrina? Yes, it's Katrina. Oh, yay. Hey, good morning. Hey, Katrina. Hello. We're. Who's this great question. This is a morning show. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning, and we are very, very eager to talk to you. You want to do a second date or something? It's whatever if you don't. Wow. Okay. How did you reach me? This is kind of odd. It's hard to answer that because we got an email from one of our listeners that met you recently at a holiday party named Joseph. Oh, Joseph. Okay. Yep, I remember him. Good. How would you describe him flat out? I guess I'd describe him as a liar. A liar? What do you mean? Like, he lies down a lot. He likes to nap. Oh, I'm a liar? No, he just completely lied to me. I met him. Yeah. Wait. Yeah. You had such a brief interaction with this guy, at least according to him. What we've heard. Oh, so we told you all about it. 15 minutes. Yeah. So I don't know if this is what Joseph told you, but we ended up making out. It's not usually the order in which I do things, but we made out and then we had a talk. You don't normally do it that way. That's how we do it. No, I do not. Different for me. But then he tells me he works at my company. Someone's like, what are you doing here? I don't recognize you. So I looked him up, and there is no record of this guy working at my company. I don't know why he said that. Okay. But to be fair, sometimes my friends now meet people at the bar and you could just make stuff up, and then you don't think you're going to end up liking them. Yeah, right. But you've already made up, like, oh, yeah, I work in whatever. I mean, that makes sense, Alexis, like. Or it's just easier, right? Yeah, easier to say, yeah, I work here, too. Yeah, totally. Maybe he owns stock in the company and in a way that's, like, financially responsible for the owner of the company. Yeah. What was that CBS show? Undercover Boss or something? It's like, oh, yeah, I work here and it's like, oh, no, actually, I own the whole thing. Maybe. Maybe some. Maybe some sort of, like, misunderstanding situation like that. Okay, I highly doubt that was the case. Okay, so you're just mad because he lied to you about working. Yeah, there was no reason for him to. I mean, he specifically said he worked in finance, so I don't know how to respond to this guy because I don't know who he is. Was he just crashing the party? Is he some kind of pervert? Why Would you go to pervert? I mean, why don't you just text him? You don't have to text him or do anything like that. Because actually, Joseph is on the other line right now waiting to talk to you. Seriously. Perverts do. Yeah, in a non pervy way. Quietly listening. In the whole time he's been listening. Oh, God, no. It's because he likes you, Joseph Teller. Katrina, I am so sorry. I just. Let me just start out with that. I want to apologize. Good start. I forgot that I did tell you those things, and I want to tell you where that's coming from. I'm not a pervert. I'm not a stalker. Any. Any creepo. Nothing like that. Do you work there? I don't work there. Okay, I do know. He just said that. All right, I'm going to tell you something. I'm going to be transparent. This came from a friend of mine who does work there. And she actually made me kind of like a little bet thing where. No, don't tell me. It wasn't a bet. Why? Are you not really a bet? No, she gave me a move. If I want to say it like that. As far as if I do this particular thing, if I say, hey, I think you're pretty, do you want to make out? I can make out with any woman at that party. It is a female friend that told him to do this. I think that's very important. Thanks, bro. Yeah. Yeah. And I just want to say this, Katrina, when we did that, you were the only person that I did that to and that I wanted to do that to. Even afterwards, I just wanted to maybe change 2 to width. That was better. Said I did it with you, not. Semantics are important. I guess that's a relief. But seriously, it's kind of like you just went there specifically to test out your move when it was not his idea. His friend is the one who was encouraging him. Because Joseph did not think. Who's saying no to a free holiday party with the open bar? Yeah. I mean, my friend worked at a big company. Like, yeah. I went, yeah. If you should be mad at anybody, be mad at Joseph's friend for pressuring him to kiss you. Female friend. Female friend. I do think that's so important. Okay, I've crashed parties before. That makes sense. Even we was invited. Yeah, he didn't crash it. And the only way was I work there. That's it. Right? You didn't lie about anything else, did you, Joseph? I should ask that. No, no, no. That was it. That was it. Because Katrina you didn't lie about that, Joseph. You could have told me the truth. No, not really. I came here to try out this line that my friend gave me, but. Yeah, no, about where you work. Not that part. Yes, it works. I guess it works. I gotta admit, it worked. Okay, so I'm kind of curious. Would that line work if a girl tried it on a guy? Of course. Well, yeah, I think it'd work even better. I think it would, too, actually. The hard part is going to be finding a guy who you actually want to make out with. Why are you asking that? To be honest, my boss is recently single. Oh, God. And I had my eye on him. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's not the way this supposed to be going. No. What's going on? Your boss. You want to try this on your boss? I would like to try it. I mean, not smart. Don't do that. Keep it equivalent. Trust me, I've tried a lot of moves on our bosses and none of them work, so it's. I don't think it's a good idea. Jeffrey hasn't gotten a raise in over five years. No, I keep getting demoted. Listen, I don't even know who the hell you guys are, so don't tell me what to do. Yeah, but you got the idea from us. No, no, from him. Joseph. Joseph's got some smooth moves, and maybe I should. Well, are you going to kiss Joseph again? Because the whole reason that we're doing this call is because after you guys kissed, he felt like you had a really great connection and wanted to take it a little bit farther and go out on a real date. And we would pay for that date if you're willing to see him again. Yeah, I mean, maybe Joseph could be my wingman. No, Katrina, come on. I'm pouring out my heart here. I like you. I want to get to know you. You guys had a connection. Give it a chance with Joseph. And once that burns out, then you can go after your boss. There you go. You know, I'm willing to go on a friendly date. As friends. As friends. As friends. Do we cover friendly dates? We can exchange dating tricks and tips. Dude, you went from kissing this woman in the first five seconds to now you're her friend. Absolute friend zone wingman. I have never been not this excited about friendship in my life. Look at Jeffrey in the morning. Man, I feel so bad for Joseph in that scenario. He took a risk, decided he was going to be 100% honest and transparent and admitted he didn't really work at her company. He was just there to do a makeout experiment. And what happens? He goes from mystery hot guy to best friend dating coach. Oh man, he went to far. He told too much. You know, like you got to keep your dating secrets to yourself. Yes. When is it okay to be fully honest with your partner, Brooke? How many years into the marriage do you actually open up if they ask? You got to tell them. Oh, but boring. You never tell them anything. I'm kidding. Good one Brooke. But if you ever want some dating advice, we'll be honest with you and try and give you our best piece of advice and help and whatever we can. 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