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All right, we got a brand new second date podcast for you today to start your weekend. Thank you so much for being here. Please, like, subscribe rate, do all the things. And today, I really feel, is a lesson in how some people don't realize they're being weird. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. And then what you do with that realization afterwards. So. But before we get into the new second date, what's our favorite comment of the day? Alexis? Oh, I saw one from Samson who said, I love how Jeff stands on business. Nothing throws him off from the mission, regardless of the situation. Get to ask them for another date. And he surely does that. Well, sometimes we get to the end of these and I'm like, why are you asking? It is so obvious that they either hate each other.
Alexis
Look, I know why our producer told him when he started in the main host gig, like, you have to always ask of the whole thing. He took that so literally. Literally. It's like a lot of him. Yeah, he like, do we get it? Jeff, let it. Leave them alone.
Andy
Hold on.
Alexis
Before. I know. He burned your house down.
Andy
I know. Literally. It's not a lie. All right, let's get to this second date. Sit back, enjoy, and thanks for being here. It's freaking Jeffrey in the morning.
Jeff
Second date update. Sometimes you can tell right away if you're romantically compatible with a person. Yeah, Just by how they order at a restaurant.
Samson
Oh, my God.
Alexis
So attracted.
Andy
Oh, suddenly you're talking Jose's love language.
Jeff
I know Jose is with me on this. Like, for example, if you're at a fancy steakhouse.
Andy
Yeah.
Jeff
And they say, yeah, I'll get a side of onion petals, no sauce, and a wedge salad as my main, but with no bacon, no blue cheese. Sorry, can I sub the croutons for quinoa flakes instead? Get out of here. I'm like, can we go ring shopping right now? Because that's the high maintenance dream girl I've always needed in my.
Andy
I mean, if you want super hot, that's what you have to put up with. Yeah, well, I know they have to make sacrifices.
Alexis
Yeah, they can only have a couple bites of this.
Andy
Exactly.
Jeff
That's how our listener Andy says he knew his date was just the right girl for him.
Andy
Oh, really?
Jeff
We'll learn more about it in a second. But first, Andy, welcome to the show. Man, how you doing?
Samson
Hey, guys. Thanks for having me, man.
Andy
God. Anytime. We open these, Andy. Talking about food, I'm immediately hungry. So I absolutely want to know what was ordered and what restaurant. Everybody, food related items.
Jeff
We'll get to all that stuff in just a second. First, let's start with the name of this person, this girl you met. What's she all about?
Samson
Well, her name is Carla.
Jeff
Okay.
Samson
And she's awesome. But I've been recently, I've been trying to kind of get out on dating scene a little bit more.
Andy
Okay.
Samson
Because I was out of the market for a while, and now I'm back in and trying to get the lay of the land.
Jeff
Okay.
Samson
One thing that I've noticed is women these days, they're so particular on their meals. I'm a laid back kind of guy. And it's like, it's super annoying when they're like, hold this and not that. Just get them fish.
Alexis
Get the look people do low carb. It's like, hey, no rice. I need veggies.
Andy
I was like, people are just more food conscious over both genders. Right.
Jeff
It sounds like you're pretty tired of that. Did that happen on your date with Carla?
Samson
That's the thing. Not at all.
Andy
That's all she had to do.
Alexis
She's like, I'll take the blank. And you were like, I love you.
Andy
Is that accurate? Yeah.
Jeff
How did it go?
Samson
She was a breath of fresh air, very easy going. We went to a Mexican restaurant, and all she did was she just ordered the fajitas.
Andy
That was it.
Alexis
Just like the chicken?
Andy
Well, I mean, the fajitas are the ones that you can put together yourself, so you don't even have to ask them for substitutions.
Alexis
You have to choose, though, chicken or beef.
Andy
Wait a minute. So I mean, already, like, as soon as she orders, does your whole mood change?
Samson
Oh, 100%. And I was like, totally into her. And I was like, oh, moving with me now.
Alexis
You're kidding. But that's awesome, dude.
Andy
Did you tell her about your experiences and how refreshing it was to see her order like that after the fact?
Samson
Yes. I don't want to preemptively warn her so that she gets all nervous when she's ordering her food?
Jeff
Yeah, all of that sounds great. You got the green flag with the food order. Tell us what about anything else that stood out on the date with Carla?
Samson
Oh, I mean, she's cute. She has a great personality. And when she spoke about things, she would literally light up. Like, one of the questions I asked her, I was like, do you think your cat actually likes you or just putting up with you?
Andy
I like that question.
Jeff
On a date, what'd she say?
Samson
She explained, like, how they were, like, best friends, but it wasn't, like, in a corny way. It was in a very great energy kind of way. Just a positive.
Andy
Asking someone about their pets is a good move always.
Jeff
Okay, that personally lost me for dating Carla, but I'm glad that you and her are on the same page.
Alexis
Hold on. You want high maintenance and hate pets?
Jeff
Yes. Very low negative energy.
Alexis
If you're Jeff's type, text him. I have a feeling we'll get zero.
Andy
I think what's going on.
Jeff
Sweet.
Andy
Is that she lit up about her cat, and you are literally lighting up talking about her.
Alexis
Like, awesome.
Andy
You sound so excited.
Alexis
How'd you mess it up? Like, what did you do?
Jeff
Yeah. How did the rest of dinner go?
Samson
The rest of dinner was great. We hung out way longer than we should have at the dinner table, and then we decided we didn't want the nightstand, so we ended up kind of going back to my place. We opened up a bottle of wine, and we talked some more. We. We had more conversations. Like, one of them was, like, about, if you wanted to delete one app forever, what would it be? My answer was TikTok. And she was like, no, I want to delete Venmo so I'd never have to pay for anything again.
Jeff
Okay.
Andy
And she's funny, dude.
Jeff
Okay, now I'm coming back around on Carla. I'm gonna steal her.
Andy
She sounds like a dream.
Jeff
Okay, so how did you and Carla leave it that night?
Samson
I mean, I didn't want the night to be over, but it was getting late and being respectful, first date, everything. So I called her an Uber, and she went home, and I haven't heard from her since. The weird thing, though, is, like, I'll text her, and she'll like my text, but she's not responding. Like, oh, she reacts.
Andy
Are you?
Samson
Yeah.
Andy
Are you asking a question, or are you just saying hi?
Samson
No, also asking a question. Like, oh, I'd love to see you again. When can I take you out again? She'll, like, put a thumbs up, and it's like, okay, well, I guess the thumbs up is good, but I need an answer here.
Andy
Oh, that's interesting.
Jeff
Unless it's not even her answering, and her cat has the password to her phone and is just getting in there, pawing around, liking your. Your text message.
Alexis
Cat's like, emphasize, emphasize, emphasize.
Samson
They are best friends.
Andy
That is interesting.
Jeff
You clearly had A strong connection the first time you hung out. So it's weird that nothing's happened since.
Alexis
Legit mystery to me. The time we're like, duh, she's giving.
Andy
Like, some positive vibes. It's not like she's.
Jeff
That's what scares me. When we call and talk to her. We have to put up with those positive vibes and hopefully get an answer out of her when we come back. And try and get you your second date update right after this. Okay, thanks.
Samson
I appreciate you.
Jeff
All right, hold on now. Second date update. I only do this maybe a couple times a year, but I'm highlighting this second date as one we have to get.
Andy
I would agree with you. This guy is so head over heels.
Jeff
Seriously, I'm actually. Compared to all the other calls that we've done this year, I'm actually gonna put effort into this one for our listener.
Alexis
Andy, you're not putting an effort on the other ones.
Andy
Your body language doesn't say that. You mean your arms crossed. You're sitting back.
Jeff
This is my effort mode.
Andy
Oh, okay.
Jeff
I'm locked. Fall asleep over, cuz. Andy, he's on the phone with us. Andy, you seem like a genuinely good guy. Yes, you do. The way that you described your date, Carla, to us, she seems like a really cool person too, because most guys that we have on here, they just describe how hot their dates bodies are and how they tricked them into spending the night recently.
Alexis
I mean, I told her how much I could bench press. I don't know what's going on.
Jeff
And while we're all impressed by that stuff, for sure, you actually focused on Carla's personality and her words. So clearly this means a lot to you.
Samson
Yeah, that definitely does. And I appreciate the kind words. And I also appreciate the effort as well.
Jeff
Okay.
Andy
The effort from Jeffrey. Yeah, rare people get it, so you should count yourself lucky. What do you think is going on? Why do you think it's been so hard with her?
Samson
No clue, to be honest with you. Which is why I reached out to you. Like, it's. We had a great conversation. We had a great time at dinner. We had a great time back in my house.
Jeff
Yeah. It's a mystery to all of us, and we're running out of time here, so we need to call her. I'm gonna dial her number right now. Good luck to me. Here we go.
Andy
Good luck to me. I think. Good luck to him.
Jeff
Well, I'm trying. Wish me luck.
Andy
Okay.
Jeff
Hello? Hey, is Carla there?
Producer
Yeah, this is. See, who is this?
Jeff
Hey, Carla.
Andy
Hi, Carla.
Jeff
Love Your name, by the way. My name is Gross. It's Jeff, and I work on a radio show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.
Producer
Okay. Okay.
Alexis
Try not to swear.
Andy
She sounds like a real sailor when it comes to.
Alexis
Well, it's hard for you too, Brooke.
Andy
It is.
Jeff
And we're not trying to shock you too much, but we're calling as a favor to a really cool new friend of ours. We spoke to him on the phone, and you've met him before. He's a guy named Andy.
Producer
Oh.
Andy
Oh.
Alexis
Whoa.
Andy
Interesting.
Alexis
That was a negative O. Yeah, I.
Andy
Mean, maybe it didn't come out right. You remember Andy, right again.
Producer
What is this about? I. I'm just. I. I don't know what this is all about.
Jeff
This is a segment we do called Second Date Update.
Alexis
It's about your date.
Jeff
And Andy, according to him, said that when you guys hung out, it was a lot different than most of the other dates that he's gone on this year in a really good way. So we're just trying to figure out if there's a reason why there hasn't been a second meetup. Because he's really hoping for one.
Andy
Yeah.
Producer
Yeah. I don't know. I. I just. I feel like I probably shouldn't have gone to his apartment.
Andy
Gone to his apartment?
Jeff
His apartment?
Andy
Something.
Alexis
He said you guys didn't fool around or anything?
Jeff
What was weird about his apartment?
Producer
Okay, well, I'll just say this. There were a lot of framed photos.
Andy
Huh? Okay. Okay, that's good. Usually. Usually bachelors can't figure out frames and pictures together.
Alexis
I bought with a frame, like, already.
Andy
That's good. That's good.
Jeff
Why were framed photos a red flag to you?
Producer
They're framed photos of him. Of Andy.
Jeff
Wait, well, I would hope that they would be him in his own apartment.
Alexis
No, bro, I'm talking about my artist. It's like the beach.
Andy
What do you, like, solo him or him with people?
Alexis
Yeah, that's a good question.
Producer
Just him.
Andy
Just him.
Producer
When he graduating? When he's, like, petting a tiger, I think it was.
Andy
That's cool.
Jeff
Well, what's a red flag about that to you?
Producer
There were 20 of them.
Andy
Of him.
Jeff
Okay, that's a lot.
Andy
But listen, he's a solo guy. He lives by himself. And obviously, maybe he just has him up because he wants to remind himself of all the cool places he's been.
Alexis
You know, maybe I should put up some stuff.
Jeff
So, Brooke, you. You would see this and you would think this is normal.
Alexis
20 plus pictures.
Andy
20'S a lot. I don't know about normal, but I'm just like. I don't know that it's like, nefarious or means that he's a bad person.
Jeff
She didn't say nefarious. She just said it's odd or it's weird.
Andy
Well, she used it as a red flag, and it's the reason that she's not calling him back. And I don't know that that's fair. That's all I'm saying. If he's, like, cocky too, but I don't know that he is.
Jeff
Oh, yeah. Were there any cocky pictures of him that made you think, wow, this guy's a real jerk for framing.
Alexis
That's wrong, Jeff.
Andy
Well, I think it's a fair question.
Jeff
Self righteous.
Producer
Yeah. He had a photo of himself flexing.
Andy
Did he have muscles? Did he have muscles? Like, was it good?
Alexis
Yeah. Was he ripped?
Producer
It was okay at best.
Andy
I mean.
Jeff
Okay. I mean, we could go into detail and talk about what was inside of all of his photos, but I'm still trying to understand what the underlying problem is.
Andy
See, you don't see it as a red flag.
Jeff
What is it? He's confident in himself and likes to.
Alexis
Having pictures of himself absorbed.
Andy
Okay, self absorbed, or you're worried that he doesn't have friends.
Producer
I did feel like it was clear to me after being there for half an hour. It would be difficult to date someone who's already in a committed relationship with himself.
Andy
Oh, that's fair.
Jeff
Okay.
Andy
Maybe it's that motivational thing people do where you put, like a photo of yourself as a kid in the mirror, but he just has 20 of them.
Alexis
Well, he's talking to the graduate. He's talking.
Andy
He just came across as such a good guy. I just. That's what we felt.
Jeff
But I don't know, maybe we got a totally wrong read on him and he's absolutely obsessed with himself because he is on the other line right now listening in on this conversation, which I guess, in a way is about him.
Producer
Oh, my God.
Jeff
And he does want to talk to you. Andy.
Samson
Hi, Carla. Hi. How are you?
Producer
Hi.
Samson
Thanks for doing this, Andy. Why?
Producer
This is, like, embarrassing for you. I don't want to put you on blast on the radio because I thought.
Samson
We had a great time and you weren't necessarily responding back to me, and I didn't know you were gonna be kind of hitting on all the photos of, like, big moments in my life and stuff like that.
Producer
Andy, they're everywhere. There's one in the bathroom.
Andy
Like, whoa.
Producer
It's weird.
Samson
Okay. I'M sorry. I don't have very good interior decoration skills, I guess you could say. Most guys, you make it seem like I have a big crush on myself.
Andy
That's okay. You could crush on yourself.
Alexis
Can we ask, bro? Like, when you were putting up all those pictures, why. Like, why did you put those up?
Samson
I don't know. They're just big moments in my life that it's nice that when I'm walking around, be reminded of them. Like, you mentioned the tigers. Like, that's a trip I took with my parents when we went to Africa. Or I do. I do have a shirtless gym selfie on my wall.
Andy
Oh, it's a selfie selfie. That's worse.
Jeff
Is that the bathroom one? Because I would understand. That would kind of fit. Yeah.
Andy
You know.
Samson
Like I mentioned before, I've been off the market for a while. I might have gained a lot of weight. And so, like, this is a picture of, like, after I hit my goal weight. Like a milestone type of thing.
Jeff
Carl, are you hearing him?
Producer
I'm hearing this. I just feel like maybe he could have asked one of his friends, and they're like, is this too many photos?
Jeff
Yeah. Yeah.
Andy
It sounds like it didn't register with him at all. Like.
Alexis
Yeah.
Andy
Have you ever had anyone else comment about the excessive amount of. Of photos in your apartment?
Samson
I don't really. I don't have a lot of people come over, to be honest with you. And I think about decorating with stock Target photos of, like, red succulent plants or whatever.
Jeff
Okay, well, let's not hate on people that like to decorate from Target because they have some good stuff.
Alexis
You should use a woman's touch. Maybe you two can help each other. I. I was just gonna adjust it a little bit.
Andy
Maybe you have a reasonable amount that he should have. Carla, is there a number in your head that's okay? Of course.
Producer
Like, three max.
Samson
How in the world am I going to choose just three for my life?
Jeff
Actually, Andy, I have a good suggestion for you. They have these digital photo frames now where it'll rotate through, like, 500. And you don't have to limit it down.
Samson
Okay, I'm definitely open to some options here, but, I mean, some of them need to stay up.
Andy
He's taking this in stride. Some people could have gotten really defensive about it.
Alexis
Yeah, compromises happen.
Jeff
He went through all of this effort just to get in touch with you.
Andy
And look at what he could look like. Mean, that gym picture is. She did just say it was okay.
Jeff
Well, room for improvement is what I'M hearing, so.
Samson
I mean, if you give me a second date, it leads to the third, fourth, 100 dates. Then we can start hanging up pictures of us together.
Alexis
Next time is 20 pictures of you.
Jeff
So now that you know everything, Carla, you've heard what Andy has to say. Would you consider going out with him again? We would pay for it.
Producer
I mean, I feel like he was kind of in the dark about it. Not like he's in love with himself, which I was really worried about. Yeah, I would be interested, but he has to take down some of those.
Andy
Photos if I'm going back or at least turn them around. So not all of him is looking at you at the same time.
Jeff
Okay, you guys can actually do that on your next date.
Andy
Oh, yeah. Pick your top ones.
Samson
Yeah, I'm totally down. We'll go out to dinner, then Asperger's can go back and have a redecoration party.
Jeff
Congratulations, Andy. You got another meetup with Carla.
Samson
Thank you guys so much. I really appreciate your help.
Jeff
We're motivated, too.
Alexis
We set a goal to get them together. And we did it, guys.
Andy
Without even one picture of us hanging up in front of us.
Jeff
That is our effort for the entire year. We can go back to not caring anymore.
Alexis
We can mail it in.
Andy
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Jeff
You know, today's second date was a good lesson for me.
Andy
Yeah, to put effort into things.
Jeff
No, because I have lots of frame photos of myself up in my place now. My face isn't in any of them.
Andy
What?
Jeff
I tend to capture other stuff, but.
Andy
I almost asked what was, and that was no.
Jeff
You can come over and check it out if you want.
Andy
I'm good at a public place.
Jeff
Well, now I know I need to limit them down to just three, so that's good to know. But I do think Brooke actually said it best during the segment because he seems genuinely surprised that too many photos of himself could be something that derails a date.
Andy
Right?
Jeff
Yeah, but good for him. He was open minded. He was willing to change and adjust. That's literally the number one thing you can do to be in a successful relationship.
Andy
I mean, it's so hard for people these days to hear something like, maybe somewhat critical about themselves and think, yeah, oh, okay, well, I can fix that. Yeah, like, that's a great thing to think. After that.
Jeff
They really were a great match. And I hope that we do get an update from them soon and you could be the next next couple that we get an update from. If you email the show, call that person who's not calling you back and go check out all of our second dates. Wherever you get your podcasts, they're available at.
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You'Re listening to an iHeart podcast.
Release Date: May 9, 2025
Hosts: Brooke, Jeffrey (Jeff), Alexis, Andy
Guest: Samson
In this episode of Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update, hosted by iHeartPodcasts, the team delves into the complexities of modern dating, particularly focusing on the unintentional “weird” behaviors that can hinder second dates. The episode centers around Samson’s experience with his date, Carla, exploring how seemingly minor details can significantly impact romantic connections.
Samson shares his recent foray back into the dating scene after a hiatus. He recounts his first date with Carla, highlighting both the positive interactions and the unexpected stumbling blocks that arose post-date.
Key Moments:
Positive First Date Experience:
Samson describes Carla as “a breath of fresh air” with a commendable personality. Their dinner at a Mexican restaurant was enjoyable, with Carla opting for fajitas, which Samson interpreted as a sign of low-maintenance and genuine compatibility.
Samson [04:06]: "She was a breath of fresh air, very easy-going... we went to a Mexican restaurant, and all she did was she just ordered the fajitas."
The Red Flag:
Despite the promising first date, Samson hasn’t heard back from Carla. His texts receive only "likes" without any substantive responses, leaving him puzzled about the sudden distance.
Samson [08:24]: "I called her an Uber, and she went home, and I haven't heard from her since. The weird thing, though, is, like, I'll text her, and she'll like my text, but she's not responding."
Concerned about Samson’s lack of communication, the hosts decide to reach out to Carla directly on air to uncover the real reason behind her silence.
Conversation Highlights:
Initial Contact:
Jeff attempts to connect with Carla, introducing Samson’s predicament and seeking her perspective.
Jeff [11:28]: "I'm Jeff, and I work on a radio show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning... he's a guy named Andy."
Carla’s Revelation:
Carla reveals that her reluctance to respond stems from the overwhelming number of framed photos of Samson in his apartment, which she interprets as a sign of self-absorption.
Producer Carla [12:12]: "There were 20 of them. It would be difficult to date someone who's already in a committed relationship with himself."
Samson’s Explanation:
Samson clarifies that the photos represent significant moments in his life and not vanity. He explains the personal milestones each picture signifies, aiming to portray them as cherished memories rather than narcissism.
Samson [16:22]: "They're just big moments in my life... like, you mentioned the tigers. Like, that's a trip I took with my parents when we went to Africa."
Upon understanding Carla’s concerns, Samson agrees to modify his apartment’s decor to make it more inviting and less self-focused. This gesture demonstrates his willingness to accommodate Carla’s feelings, paving the way for a potential second date.
Final Agreement:
Samson’s Commitment:
He agrees to reduce the number of personal photos, opting for a balanced display that still honors his memories without overwhelming the space.
Samson [18:30]: "I’m totally down. We’ll go out to dinner, then have a redecoration party."
Carla’s Openness:
Carla expresses interest in giving the relationship another chance, provided the adjustments are made.
Producer Carla [18:42]: "I would be interested, but he has to take down some of those."
The hosts reflect on the importance of effort and the willingness to adapt in fostering successful relationships. Jeff emphasizes the value of being open-minded and responsive to constructive feedback, highlighting Samson’s positive approach in addressing the issue.
Notable Insights:
Jeff on Effort:
Jeff [20:02]: "They clearly were a great match. And I hope that we do get an update from them soon... You can email the show, call that person who's not calling you back and go check out all of our second dates."
Alexis on Compromise:
Alexis [19:24]: "Without even one picture of us hanging up in front of us."
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update concludes with a heartening update on Samson and Carla’s budding relationship, underscoring the significance of mutual understanding and adaptability in navigating the dating landscape. The episode serves as a reminder that minor adjustments and open communication can transform initial uncertainties into promising romantic connections.
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