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Sam
your Friday with a brand new episode. It's Brooke and Jeffrey. Thanks for finding our second date podcast, the official one. We appreciate you here in the present. I've seen a lot of comments lately on our episodes from a decade ago, eight years ago, and I keep writing because I think they're finding them on playlists and not clicking back over to us. I'm like, you can come to the present. It's a great place here. They're not going to hear this till maybe 10 years from now. Well, a new episode for those who know, for the smarter ones out there. Okay, and what do you see in the comment section? Alexis Muted alt said someone at Brooke and Jeffrey liked my comment on a short video and it made me giddy like a school girl. But now it killing me. I need to know which one of my heroes it was.
Jeffrey
Well, you can't see who liked it.
Sam
Well, Brooke and Jeffrey account, so probably digital Jake. Probably. Which, I mean, that's the biggest compliment. Oh, if Jake likes your comment.
Jeffrey
Yeah, he's like the funniest one here.
Sam
I know. If I can get him to laugh. I know my joke was actually funny. You really made it when that happens. Ashton too. But Ashton gives a lot of courtesy laughs over there. Yeah, yeah. Oh, see? Yeah, there we go. Right on camera.
Alexis
That was good, Brooke.
Sam
That was a good one. All right, let's get to the new episode. It starts right now. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update.
Jeffrey
I had to do some research and I asked the web, what's the typical average time for a first date? Oh, oh, like the length of the day.
Jamie
Yeah.
Jeffrey
How long does, like a first date usually last?
Sam
I'm curious what the Internet says. I would guess like a couple hours. Yeah, me too.
Jeffrey
The answer, not including hookup, of course, is one hour and 38 minutes.
Sam
So if you included hookup, it's one hour and 42 minutes.
Jeffrey
Yeah, that's being generous. Now again, that's averaging like coffee dates with going to ball games all Right. You know, mixing in yoga classes with colonoscopies where you hold his unconscious hand the entire time.
Sam
Thank you for explaining what averages are.
Jeffrey
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Sam
That was nice.
Jeffrey
What if I told you today's listener said they took that average date time and almost doubled it? That's what he claims. And his name is Sam. He's with us right now. Sam, congratulations on your super long date. Hopefully you weren't in the restroom the whole time, but how are you doing today, man? Three hours?
Jamie
No, it was a good date. What can I say?
Sam
Okay, awesome. It wasn't even something where she fell asleep in the middle and got bored.
Jamie
We were awake the whole time.
Jeffrey
Okay, a good start. Okay, so tell us about this girl that you spent all this time with. What's her name?
Jamie
Well, her name is Jamie, and we matched online, and then we did this thing. And I don't know if they have this where you guys are, but it's called an anti farmers market.
Sam
Anti farmers market?
Jamie
Anti.
Sam
I've never heard of that. You're protesting local farms only. Big corporations, yes.
Jeffrey
What is that?
Jamie
It's like they have a whole street blocked off, just like a regular farmers market. But, like, there's a row of all processed food stands.
Sam
Ew.
Jeffrey
Oh, I want to go to the Cheez Whiz stand. That would be awesome. I can only imagine the types of crowds that flocked to an anti fresh food market.
Sam
I am picturing a lot of mullets.
Jamie
It was busy. It was like people were into it.
Jeffrey
Well, I don't doubt that there's a lot of people there. I just mean the types of people. Be like, who allowed this organic peach stand here? Get them out of here.
Sam
Where's the Red Die 40 stand?
Jeffrey
Okay, but a lot of people were there, huh?
Jamie
Yeah. And it's like they have all these funny signs up that they think, like, no vegetables here.
Sam
What was here?
Jeffrey
Get a Twinkie and just have a good time.
Sam
What was your date's reaction? Reaction to going to this?
Jamie
I think she was into it. We were too busy laughing the whole
Sam
time because it is funny. Like, that's the whole thing is it's supposed to be sarcastic and funny.
Jeffrey
I could see her not expecting it, though, and being like, what the heck is this? Yeah, yeah, but it's a great. It's a good vibe.
Sam
So what'd you do, just eat a bunch of processed meats and then sweat for a while?
Jamie
Basically. I mean, like, basically. And did you guys know, actually, that Pringles are not made from real potatoes?
Jeffrey
We did know that actually. Well, yeah. You can't have real potatoes at an anti farmer's house. Come on.
Sam
I thought potatoes were always in that perfect shape.
Jeffrey
Okay, you bought Pringles. What else?
Jamie
We had, like, all kinds of chips and candies and stuff by the end.
Jeffrey
Okay.
Jamie
Oh, and I was eating a bag of Funyuns, and at one point I got down on one knee and I put a Funyun over her ring finger.
Sam
Whoa.
Jeffrey
Okay, that's.
Sam
Whoa.
Jeffrey
It's an aggressive joke for a first
Sam
date, I'm gonna say. I mean, I know you're trying to be funny, but the drop down on one knee even. I had been with my husband for three years, and he would do that, and I'd be like, oh, my God, get up. Because everybody turns and looks at you. It creates a whole scene.
Jamie
Yeah.
Jeffrey
Yeah. I mean, it is kind of a risky move for that first date. How did.
Sam
Yeah.
Jeffrey
How did Jamie react?
Jamie
Well, she started to laugh, and then she just put her finger in her mouth and ate her ring.
Sam
Get rid of the evidence, bro. Alexis.
Alexis
Yeah?
Jeffrey
Making your date laugh is, like, the best thing ever. But it sounds like it was all laughing. You gotta have some romance. Is there any, like, cute things that happen?
Sam
I think the only positive of that is you both ate a Funyun because I was worried about your breath. And if you don't have funion breath, then you're okay.
Jeffrey
Yeah, that's good.
Jamie
That's fair. But no, we were saying that we, like, barely ate anything at all, but we were actually super bloated.
Sam
Yeah, I bet.
Jeffrey
Yeah. That'll make you tired.
Sam
Yeah.
Caller Jamie
Yeah.
Jamie
So we were like, okay, we should walk. So. So we left the anti farmers market and we started walking and walking, and it was like 15 minutes turned into 45, and then 45 turned into an hour and a half, and then like, two hours later.
Sam
What?
Jeffrey
Whoa.
Sam
You walked for two hours together?
Jamie
Yeah.
Jeffrey
Damn.
Sam
A lot of talking. Yes.
Jeffrey
A lot of calories to burn off. I mean, I know that's a long walk.
Sam
What'd you guys go over?
Jamie
Well, we talked about what kinds of processed foods we most enjoy.
Jeffrey
Joe didn't get old, Brooke. Yeah, that's right.
Jamie
I don't know. Other than that. Like, family, jobs, normal stuff. But it was an easy conversation and I. I think we sort of lost track of time, you know?
Sam
That's cute.
Jeffrey
Okay. That's also a good thing. Lots of laughter, lots of talking. Very good signs. So how did you two finally end it?
Jamie
Well, then I. I walked her to her car and we said goodbye. And now I've been texting her and she's not responding.
Sam
No Funyun breath kiss.
Jeffrey
Yeah, we were waiting to hear there was a kiss.
Sam
I mean, you did propose on the date. It seemed like the next step.
Jamie
There was no kiss.
Jeffrey
Okay, yeah, save some mystery for the next date.
Sam
Obviously when the proposed.
Jeffrey
Yeah, you're painting a pretty good picture of the date overall. I'm curious though, Alexis. How would you feel after if you went on a date just like this? Where would your mind be at?
Sam
I mean, I love processed foods, so
Jeffrey
she was walking too.
Sam
Actually, I'd probably be back at the market to sneak some more when he's gone.
Jeffrey
Sure, but as far as the date with him, you'd be into the guy.
Sam
Sounds normal.
Caller Jamie
I don't know.
Sam
That's actually the best review Alexis has ever given.
Caller Jamie
Guys.
Sam
Recap of a day, then a two
Jeffrey
hour walk, get some cows burned off.
Sam
I do love walking.
Jeffrey
Okay, at least we got a positive review for it. And now we have to find out what Jamie thinks.
Sam
Do you have any ideas of what you think went wrong?
Jamie
I don't think anything did go wrong.
Sam
Well, that's usually what we find out in these. Yeah, that nothing bad happened. She actually really likes you and she's just been busy.
Jeffrey
I'm sure that's exactly what she's going to say when we come back for her.
Jamie
And maybe she broke her phone.
Sam
Oh, or broke her phone. That that always happened. She doesn't answer.
Jeffrey
Well, no, we're going to call that broken phone and find out how perfect this anti farmers market date truly was when we come back and do your second date update right after this.
Sam
Brooke and Jeffrey in morning Second date update.
Jeffrey
I like that people are getting creative. Not just inventing dates, but going to these quirky pop up events like our listener Sam did who took a woman named Jamie to something called the anti farmers market. Yes, it's just a bunch of booths selling highly processed foods and cheap Chinese knickknacks.
Jamie
That's right.
Jeffrey
He didn't say that. But I think we can all assume
Sam
that's what I pictured too.
Jeffrey
And those little like USB desk fans that plug in.
Sam
Oh yeah, and then they break two weeks later.
Jeffrey
Yeah, all the best stuff. But apparently they were laughing and things were going so well that time just flew by where they spent almost three full hours together.
Sam
They watched for two hours just talking,
Jeffrey
talking, eating pretzels, fake proposing with funyuns, just taking in the sights and the smells. Sounded fun. It did. So Brooke, are you jealous that Michael doesn't do stuff like this with you anymore. You gave up on it.
Sam
Sounds like my perfect date. I love processed foods. Feeling bloated.
Jeffrey
Okay, well, in that case, Sam, you might have a backup plan.
Sam
Honestly, I think the proposal thing may have backfired for you. I think that she may have sat with it for a moment and been like, oof, that was a.
Jeffrey
Like a sight that won't leave her. Yeah.
Sam
Yeah.
Jeffrey
Do you think that's possible, Sam?
Jamie
No.
Sam
Oh, okay.
Jeffrey
Yeah, not even possible. Stay optimistic, brother. Yeah, Brooke, you are wrong. So let's move on, all right? That's not it. Well, we'll see. Let's call Jamie. We'll see if she answers and has anything to say to clear things up for us. I'm going to dial her number right now. Here we go.
Caller Jamie
Hello?
Jeffrey
Hey, is this Jamie?
Caller Jamie
Yes, it is. Is this.
Jeffrey
Hey, Jamie. This is a radio show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Sam
Hey, Jamie. Welcome to the show.
Jeffrey
Good morning.
Caller Jamie
Okay.
Jamie
Yeah, hi.
Jeffrey
We're doing a segment right now. It's called the second date update, and I'm not if you're familiar with that, but we're trying to help out one of our listeners that went on a date with you recently.
Caller Jamie
No, I've never heard of that before.
Sam
I thought you're going to say, no, thank you. Yeah, which wouldn't be shocking for how these typically go.
Jeffrey
Yeah, yeah, but we're calling because he's not getting a response back from you afterwards. It's a guy named Sam.
Caller Jamie
Okay. Okay.
Sam
I mean, I'd love to hear your version of the date.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Caller Jamie
So he told me that he was going to take me to a farmer's market, but I didn't realize that it was an anti farmer's market.
Jamie
Oh.
Jeffrey
Oh, he didn't say anti to you.
Sam
You weren't excited about all the processed meats?
Caller Jamie
Yeah, literally, like, excited to get, like, my sourdough bread and some flowers. But, like, even that is. Listen, I was still, like, game for. It was kind of a funny idea, but it's just the joke of it got old pretty quick.
Sam
Okay, so instead of a latte, you had a monster energy drink and it didn't hit the same.
Caller Jamie
Yeah, it was kind of like that.
Jeffrey
Okay, so the joke wasn't as funny as he said it was.
Sam
But you were only there for 30 minutes, he said, so. It's not like that was the whole date.
Caller Jamie
It was pretty much done after the 30 minutes, and I was, like, ready to leave. I said, I gotta get something for my car. And I was gonna ditch him, but then he Said, I'll go with you.
Jeffrey
Oh, what Gentleman? Yes. Walk into your car? That is not the way that he said it to us, though.
Sam
You were gonna ditch him just because the farmer's market wasn't that funny?
Caller Jamie
It's not that the farmer's market wasn't that funny. It was, like, during the farmer's market. And, like, what he was saying, like, he was telling all of these stupid jokes about, like, junk food is walking around. Like, he had prepared them, like, ahead of time. And, like, after every punchline, he's literally doing his own, like, rim shot. Sound like, but I'm dumb.
Jeffrey
Hold on. That's funny. That's funny to punchline your own jokes?
Sam
What kind of jokes was he saying? Can you give us an example?
Caller Jamie
I don't remember them all. I just. I remember at one point he said that his new blood type is ranch.
Sam
Oh,
Jeffrey
that's.
Sam
That's good. Alexis can't stop laughing.
Jeffrey
Okay, so if your whole plan was to ditch him, why would you spend another two plus hours with him?
Caller Jamie
Yeah, I couldn't remember where I parked my car.
Sam
What?
Jamie
Huh?
Sam
Wait, Alexis, were you on this date? This sounds like you.
Jeffrey
You don't. Wait, hold on. We were talk, though. Say it again.
Caller Jamie
I literally, like, couldn't figure out which street it was on. It was a huge nightmare. So we're looking around for literally two hours.
Jeffrey
Oh, my God.
Sam
Like, a nice walk.
Jeffrey
I thought it was like, a.
Sam
This is a guy who's gonna spend two hours trying to look for your car. Like that in and of itself is a nice gesture. I would be so frustrated by someone who forgot where they parked and spent that much time looking for it.
Jeffrey
Yes. I think that's really sweet. It's probably the two hours of Funyun jokes and badum bumps during that time that drove her wild.
Sam
He didn't ever drop the gag. He didn't ever.
Caller Jamie
Not for a second.
Sam
Oh, okay, well, that's interesting, because he didn't tell us any jokes.
Jamie
Yeah.
Jeffrey
This is all new information to us, and I'm curious to ask him about it because you need to know, Jamie, that Sam is actually on the other line of this phone call right now, listening and waiting to talk to you.
Jamie
Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
Jeffrey
Sam.
Jamie
Jamie, what happened? What happened to Mr. And Mrs. Funyon?
Caller Jamie
Oh, my God.
Jeffrey
The proposal boom chat didn't make me laugh.
Caller Jamie
That was the point where I said, I gotta go get something for my car. That was the worst. I do not like attention. And everybody was looking at us, right?
Jeffrey
Oh, my God.
Jamie
Yeah. And it was. Remember, it was till death do us part via clogged arteries. But up.
Caller Jamie
No, you see? Like literally. Do you see?
Sam
Yeah, that's the thing, Sam. Like, you just heard Jamie talk about how you needed to relax, like, not be on all the time.
Jeffrey
I think the anti farmers market was a joke in of itself. You didn't have to pile on.
Jamie
Well, I'm just. I'm a funny guy and people like that about.
Sam
Yeah, I'm sure. Yeah.
Jeffrey
I feel like you got great energy.
Sam
Yeah. And you seem really nice too. Like, to again look for her car for over two hours is a kind gesture.
Jeffrey
Although you did give us the impression that you were just walking around having fun during that time.
Sam
I think he was turn anything into a good time. That's true.
Jamie
Yeah, I was.
Sam
Which is not a bad thing in a partner.
Jeffrey
Yeah, but you didn't say you were looking for her car.
Jamie
Okay, in my defense, I thought she actually just wanted to spend more time with me and she was just pretending to look around for a car.
Jeffrey
Alexis. That's your move. Now I get it, Sam.
Caller Jamie
I'm sorry. You couldn't be more wrong. I was literally trying to find my car.
Jeffrey
But don't you think it's possible that the universe was coming into play here? Making you not find your car just to force you to spend more time with him?
Sam
Universe card. Are we Jeff or jump into the universe card?
Jeffrey
I mean, it gave her a second chance to, like, spend more time with them, get to know him even better. Yeah. Different environment, right? Not the market.
Jamie
You mean the anti farmers market?
Caller Jamie
I can't.
Jamie
Yes.
Sam
That wasn't even a good study.
Jeffrey
It was a correction.
Caller Jamie
But yeah. Okay, I. I can't. I can't do this. No, I was literally cringing for two hours straight. I can't cringe for two hours.
Jamie
You laughed. I saw you. You had fun.
Caller Jamie
It was a very uncomfortable laugh,
Sam
Sam. I mean, maybe this isn't just, you know, her humor isn't right for you if you think about it that way.
Jeffrey
That's what it sounds like.
Jamie
No, no, I see what's happening. I said, Jamie, what's happening is you're funny, but you're shy.
Sam
Oh.
Jamie
So I'm willing to hear one of your jokes right now if you want to try one. I'm ready.
Jeffrey
Oh, okay.
Jamie
Her turn.
Sam
Yeah.
Jeffrey
Jamie, why don't you lay a joke on. Lay a joke on. Sam.
Caller Jamie
Two people walk into an anti farmers market. One person tries to leave and the other follows.
Jeffrey
I don't like the punchline. You forgot the badump Bump.
Sam
Are you laughing? Sam?
Jamie
You. You. I don't get it.
Jeffrey
Yeah, it's about somebody else. Don't worry.
Sam
Okay, I think it's time to end the joke.
Jeffrey
Yeah, yeah, we're gonna end the jokes and get to the serious part of this where we ask if you two would like to go out on another date. And we would pay for it. So Jamie, that question is up to you.
Caller Jamie
Sam is very sweet as you said. I appreciate the effort, but unfortunately for me, he lacks self awareness and that's pretty important to me.
Jamie
So.
Caller Jamie
No, sorry, but I'm bone.
Jeffrey
That's more of a. Yeah, that's a different one. Sam, anything you want to say?
Jamie
I guess I found my anti girlfriend pretty good.
Jeffrey
But then Bump.
Sam
No, still not yet.
Jeffrey
Yeah, that was Alexis hates that.
Brooke
She loves it.
Jeffrey
We gotta play the drum roll sound effect.
Sam
All right.
Jeffrey
Better luck next time, Sam.
Sam
You'll find her, Sam. You'll get somebody funny out there.
Jeffrey
Yeah, they'll get you.
Jamie
Or not.
Jeffrey
He didn't laugh with that one. You always leave on a laugh.
Sam
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Sam
Hey, don't hate on Ted Lasso.
Jeffrey
I'm sorry.
Sam
It's true.
Jeffrey
It's true. They really try to be funny. They really don't.
Sam
We laugh in our family some.
Jeffrey
Sometimes.
Sam
I like it.
Jeffrey
Plus he didn't understand her joke about the two people go to the anti farmers market. One tries to leave. So hopefully he'll get it on the way home from work today. Maybe in a few hours.
Sam
Maybe that would be a Ted Lasso thing to do.
Jeffrey
That would be. And you know what? Despite our recent track record of absolute and total failure, we have pulled through for our listeners before.
Sam
Rarely.
Jeffrey
Rarely. But we do it.
Sam
We didn't need that.
Jeffrey
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Sam
Yeah. Or you can watch them on YouTube. Don't forget about that too.
Jeffrey
That too. All the places Brooke and Jeffrey in
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Podcast: Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Episode Title: Second Date Update: Anti-Farmers Market
Original Air Date: July 10, 2026
Main Theme:
The episode centers on a classic Second Date Update scheme: after a long first date, a listener named Sam seeks help after being ghosted by his date, Jamie. Their date? An unconventional excursion to an "Anti-Farmers Market"—a pop-up event exclusively dedicated to processed foods. The hosts dig into the mismatched expectations, the awkward humor, and, ultimately, why Jamie wasn't interested in seeing Sam again.
The episode delivers the humor and cringe Second Date Updates are known for. Sam’s wild, processed-food date and relentless "dad jokes" overwhelmed Jamie, who was hoping for a genuine farmers market—and, after a marathon session of forced fun and endless searching for her car, knew Sam wasn’t a match.
Final Takeaway:
Sometimes, a sense of humor—or a date idea—is not one-size-fits-all. And losing your car may be the only thing worse than being stuck in a punchline parade.