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Jeffrey
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Bomhan
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Alexis
Let's go.
Jeffrey
The big guests continue on Las Culturistas. This week, it's the very funny Amy Poehler. Don't overthink it. They talk water. We did not drink water growing up. Water was not a thing. Parenting.
Bomhan
You got teen boys.
Jeffrey
This is like the black diamond of parenting. And of course, I don't think so, honey. Horror movies.
Alexis
Okay, okay.
Brooke
Amy Poehler is on Las Culta.
Jeffrey
The latest episode is out now. Listen to Las culturistas on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you listen to podcasts.
John O'Brien
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Alexis
All right, it's your second date update podcast with Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning, the home of the second date. And today we have a listener who thought he had the world's most perfect date. He really did tell. He got a one word text, what, a half an hour after the date was over. Pretty quick after. Yeah, pretty quick. I mean, and that's the question. What is your go to rejection text?
Brooke
One word?
Alexis
Yeah, I just send a vomit emoji. Oh, wow. It's over. Is that too harsh? I'm out of the dating game for a minute with you.
Brooke
I have to ask, is that a bad one?
James
You make me sick.
Brooke
I'll see you tomorrow.
Alexis
What about you, Alexis? How do you end a conversation with somebody? Oh, I mean, I talk too much. It's definitely not one word. It's like a paragraph. I'm like, hey, I'm really sorry, but, like, we still hang out as friends. But, like, I really enjoyed it, and you're so nice. I wish you the best.
Brooke
You know, long.
Alexis
They're like, God, I don't even want to read this. Yeah, exactly. There we go. All right. Leave it in the comments what yours is and sit back and enjoy the second date today.
Brooke
Yeah, second date update. You ever, ever have a date with someone where you plan to do one thing together, but then the date night gets closer and suddenly you decide, you know what? Forget dinner. Let's do paintball instead.
Alexis
Oh, wow, that's the right turn.
Brooke
And then you get a little closer and plans change again. And then your plans change another time. Some people could see that and think, oh, this person's spontaneous and creative.
Alexis
Add like I do, or just indecisive.
Brooke
Others might see it as chaotic and indecisive. Today, our listener James isn't sure where he falls, cuz he says his plans kept changing. So didn't go out on two dates. Didn't go out on one. He calls it one date and a half.
Alexis
Oh, so that's interesting.
Brooke
Let's learn about it. James, welcome to the show.
James
Hey, thank you guys so much, man.
Alexis
We get it. There's a couple indecisive people, including myself, on this show. So we understand you.
Brooke
Hey, are you indecisive? Do you keep changing plans, or does this, the world, keep changing your plans?
James
No, I mean, you know, life is life, and, you know, life is life.
Brooke
I need to put that on a bumper sticker. Yeah, yeah.
Alexis
Okay.
Brooke
But life was coming at you and you had to switch things up, right?
Alexis
Yeah.
James
I mean, because after our first date, man, she texted me and said she had a great time. She wants to do it again. Right?
Alexis
Okay, wait, wait. Who is she? We don't know who she is.
James
Okay. Her name is Lisa and absolutely gorgeous. She could be Zoe, Zandana's older sister.
Brooke
Whoa.
James
Yeah, it is.
Jeffrey
Wow.
Brooke
I don't know who that is, but the name is the blue girl from Avatar.
Alexis
Yeah, you can't really see what she looks like in that still. Yeah, yeah.
Brooke
She looks anything like that then.
James
I mean, well, she's not Smurfette, but she's beautiful.
Brooke
Okay. Still.
Alexis
Okay. That's awesome. That's exciting. Where did you meet her, did you say? I'm sorry, but we're.
James
We met on a dating app.
Alexis
Okay.
James
And so, yeah, we have the same interests and stuff like that. I have, like, my own company. I have to travel a lot, and I know with her, with her job, she has to travel, so.
Alexis
Okay. That's always nice to find somebody who understands that.
Brooke
Yeah. You're both business oriented.
James
Right, Right. But I mean, like, for three weeks, you know, we were just, can we meet here? And she's like, oh, no, my schedule. I Gotta go out of town. Okay, so, all right. First week out of town, then the following week I had to go out of town. So one day I said, well, hey, well, what about here? Let's meet at this. She said, well, you know, my girls were going to brunch today. I said, well, hey, after your brunch, let's just hang out and just have some drinks or something.
Alexis
More drinks. Because brunch doesn't come without drinks. Yeah, brunch is drinks.
Brooke
The fact that anybody could walk away from a brunch is. That's just impressive in itself.
James
Right, right. And I mean, if we didn't go there, I mean, it was a nice little place that was next door that we could have had our privacy.
Alexis
Well, and that's nice, too, because, like, you're trying to accommodate her busy schedule. I'm sure she appreciated that.
Brooke
Okay, so how did she respond to that idea?
James
Well, see, that's what I'm gonna say, man. Her response was like, never mind. Okay, what?
Alexis
Wait. And this is after. You'd already gone on one good date, right?
James
We did. On one good date. I was trying to get a half date by going, like, after brunch. But again, I know three weeks had passed, and I know things happen and you get back into your routine. So I'm like, yo, at least let me see you or something. You know, let's. Let's just drive by each other and wave, like, shifts in the city or something. But I'm like, what happened?
Alexis
That is weird.
Brooke
Or maybe she does know. Like, me and my friends get drinks. I don't want to meet up with you.
Alexis
Like, three or four. Yeah. Planning stuff back to back can feel so overwhelming.
Brooke
Yeah, totally.
Alexis
Did she plan anything else with you?
James
No. After that, she said, never mind. And, I mean, even she could have said, well, could we meet before the brunch?
Alexis
Oh, God, that's so early. Yeah, no one's gonna say that. Let's get a grip here.
Brooke
Ye. So before we keep going, let's just rewind back for a second here. James, can we know a little bit about date number one?
Alexis
Oh, that's a good point.
Brooke
Like, where did you guys go? What was so great about it? Just give us a few details so that we know what it was like.
James
So we went to this Italian restaurant, real nice during happy hour, and had a great time. Salad, you know, pots. You know, we try to watch those carbs and stuff, but not salad.
Alexis
But great time. Yeah.
Brooke
Salad had some olives.
Alexis
Right.
Brooke
As much. As much dressing as you want. Like, to Go back.
Alexis
So funny.
James
Exactly. Exactly.
Alexis
I never understand why people who are worried about carbs go to an Italian restaurant.
Brooke
Yeah, I know. That's all it is.
Alexis
That's all right. I mean, how was the conversation? The connection between you two?
James
Yeah, I mean, it was good. We had great conversation. We found out we liked certain things, you know, our spirit animal. I don't want to go into too much detail, but.
Brooke
Okay.
James
Hey, I forgot to say, we did have a kiss.
Alexis
Oh, you did.
Brooke
Okay.
James
There was a kiss, right? You know, at the end of the day. Nothing elaborate, but just nice kisses, like, cool. And then I get this text. She enjoyed it, she had a great time. And she said, let's do this again.
Alexis
So there was like no doubt in your mind that this was going somewhere, right?
James
Exactly. I think like the scheduling thing I understood, but I don't, I don't understand like why this was like. Nevermind, that's weird.
Brooke
And so there hasn't been. There's never been a second meetup that's materialized out of all this.
James
Correct. I would like for it, but nah.
Alexis
Wait, why'd we say there was one and a half then? There was only one.
Brooke
Well, he was trying to have, I guess, the brunch.
Alexis
Yeah, it didn't happen. Yeah, it didn't happen. Okay.
Brooke
Well, it did happen with her and her girlfriends. He just wasn't there.
Alexis
That doesn't count for in a guy's world, that counts. Desperate man's world.
Brooke
Well, that's where we're at with James.
Alexis
That is terrible.
Brooke
I went on four dates last week. They all said no, but in my mind we were partying. So James, we're going to reach out to Lisa for you. We'll show, see if she picks up and then we'll try and get you your second date update right after this. Hold on.
James
I think second date update.
Brooke
If you're just joining us for the second date update, our listener James has spent the last three weeks arranging and rearranging plans, desperately trying to meet up with a woman named Lisa, who he already went out with once. And Brooks yawning about the recap.
Alexis
What wasn't that the coffee just hasn't hit.
Brooke
Jeff, it was a great first date.
Alexis
It was. It was.
Brooke
Yes.
Alexis
Okay. According to her out on that stuff, nobody would have known.
Brooke
I'm just looking around the room.
James
Great.
Brooke
Now 16 other people just yawned and tuned. I'm just saying, according to James and to Lisa, because she responded afterwards that it was great, they had a good kiss, a top notch Caesar salad, everything you could ever Want in a romantic first meet?
Alexis
No croutons, though. Gotta watch those carbs.
Brooke
And now, after all that effort, the last thing that Lisa texted him was never mind. It's one of the top three worst things a woman can send to a guy. But, James, we're gonna try and help you get this thing back on track, all right?
James
Sounds great.
Alexis
Oh, yeah. I feel like I only say nevermind when I'm mad.
Brooke
That's a thing?
Alexis
Yeah. It feels like a mad response for sure. Did I have. It did have a period at the end of Nevermind.
James
Yeah.
Alexis
Oh, you're done for. Nobody texts like that.
Brooke
That's like, end of conversation, man. It definitely wasn't never mind. Ye. That was bad. All right, well, now I don't even know if she'll pick up. But seriously, let's see if she answers. I'm going to dial her number right now. Hopefully we can get some answers out of her, but here we go.
James
All right, cool.
Lisa
Hello?
Brooke
Hey, is this Lisa?
Lisa
Yes. Is calling.
Brooke
Yeah, we're. We're a radio show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.
Alexis
Hi, Lisa. The whole show's here.
Brooke
Hey, good morning.
Lisa
Hi. My ex. Why are you calling me?
Brooke
Yeah, we're. We're doing this segment, it's called Second Date Update, where we try to help out listeners who've gone out with somebody and they're having trouble arranging that second meetup. We try and help facilitate it or figure out if there's a reason why the other person doesn't want to see them again. Yeah, and you can't say nevermind. You have to participate.
Lisa
Okay. And you're calling me why?
Brooke
Cause a little while ago, almost a month ago, you went out with one of our listeners named.
Alexis
Was it that long ago?
Brooke
He said three weeks ago.
Alexis
Okay.
Brooke
With a guy named James.
Lisa
Yeah, I'm not in contact with him.
Alexis
Yeah, okay. He understands that.
Brooke
We got that vibe.
Alexis
It sounds like things shifted, though. Did it shift for you because at first he thought you were liking him.
Lisa
Yeah, I guess.
Brooke
I mean, the thing that's confusing to him is that after that first date, he said to you guys even texted each other about having a great time, and you said you really wanted to meet up again.
Alexis
Or were you just pulling like Alexis would and just trying to be nice? Yeah. Yeah. You know, I mean, honestly, that's funny, but it's true.
Lisa
I wouldn't have said it if I didn't mean it. But that was then.
Alexis
That was then.
Brooke
So something's changed.
Alexis
Yeah. What happened?
Lisa
Well, okay, so, like, I text him and I Did tell him that I had a wonderful time and we were trying to meet up to see each other.
Alexis
Okay, and so at that point, you're excited about him, right?
Brooke
Yeah.
Lisa
I mean, absolutely. But it went from, let me buy you dinner, and then it went to, let's get drinks, then let me buy you drinks after brunch with my friends. And I'm the type of woman where if a guy says he wants to buy me dinner, then I'm gonna hold him to that. And, you know, however, with James, our potential meetups became progressively worse.
Brooke
So you. You felt like as the conversation went on, he was willing to put less effort into meeting up with you.
Lisa
Listen, when a man says that he wants to buy you dinner, then I expect him to buy me dinner, not say, okay, let me buy you dinner. Then the next thing is like, okay, you know what? You know what? Let me get you drinks. You know what?
Brooke
You know what?
Lisa
Let's just meet up after you hang out with your friends, and we'll just spend a little 10 minutes.
Alexis
Okay, so it didn't make you feel special, but did you have time to get dinner? I thought you didn't have time.
Lisa
Well, there were times that I didn't have time, and there were times where he didn't have time. But you make time.
Alexis
Okay?
Lisa
Plan it out and you make time. It's just not a drive by. Oh, let me just see you real quick and keep going. Like, I don't even know you like that.
Alexis
Okay. Because, like, I think he took it as he was putting in extra effort to try to make anything happen.
Brooke
Yeah. Like, shift around you. And I know that, you know, making time is very important. He's made time.
Alexis
So much time to be on the.
Brooke
Phone with you right now, listening on the other line, waiting to talk to you.
Alexis
Talk about effort.
Lisa
You didn't tell me that he was gonna be on the phone.
Brooke
Yeah, we did, just now. I think this is a misunderstanding, honestly. James, talk to her.
James
Well, yeah, I mean, Lisa, I'm not treating you as a drive by. I was trying to make time so I can at least see you and so we can have conversation. But that was the whole purpose of doing that. So you can get to know me.
Lisa
James, you text me, let me buy you dinner. And having drinks after being with my girls is not buying me dinner.
James
Well, I didn't realize I had to be a bread basket in order to hang out with you.
Alexis
Oh, wait, what?
Lisa
The bread basket?
Alexis
What does that even mean?
Lisa
What is that? I don't even know what that means either.
James
What do you mean when you go to a dinner, they usually give you bread before you have your dinner?
Brooke
You had to feed a meal to her in order for it to be a dinner?
Alexis
I don't know that that's exactly what she's saying there, Jason.
James
No, that's exact what she's saying, because if I'm giving effort to meet you, and you said you want to get a dinner with it, it's two people at the same time.
Lisa
You know, you suggest dinner after the brunch. You could have said we went. You can go to dinner after brunch.
Alexis
I can eat that much. I mean, I get her, like, not.
Lisa
Directly after, but later on that same day. Clearly, I had time to go to brunch. Then maybe later on that evening, I would have had time for dinner. But you didn't think about that.
Alexis
Said it, maybe.
James
No, neither. Neither did you think about that. And I didn't know your love language was food like that. How about that?
Lisa
I didn't know you love language, time and consideration either.
Alexis
Okay, you guys are fighting.
Brooke
Yeah, I think. I think, honestly, everybody needs to just relax just a little bit, because this just sounds like a big communication misunderstanding. We're forgetting that they had a great first date. They both admitted it.
Alexis
That's true.
Brooke
That the conversation was great and the chemistry was on. And the only problem that has come up is communicating how and when to meet up the second time.
Alexis
So, James, I mean, that would be like, do you not want to meet her for dinner? Like, isn't dinner at this point?
James
I'd rather just send a doordash and she can have a full course meal.
Alexis
She just wants the energy, not someone to pay for her dinner. She just wants the thoughtfulness is what it sounds like.
Lisa
Exactly.
Brooke
Lisa, this was thoughtful. Thoughtful. When we first talked to James, he described you as Zoe Saldana's younger, hotter sister.
James
No, I actually said the older, hotter sister.
Brooke
Well, I'm trying to protect you here, James, so maybe just go with what I said.
Lisa
He called me the older sister, but hotter.
Alexis
She's not that old. Anyway, she's probably in her.
Brooke
How did the compliment backfire?
Alexis
Yeah, I mean, how about this? How about this? Think of this, Lisa. He went out of his way to get a radio station to call you because he wanted to see you that much. That is effort.
Lisa
It sounds like he had you call me to embarrass me.
Brooke
No.
Alexis
Yeah.
Lisa
It doesn't sound like he was trying to flatter me.
Brooke
No, it's the opposite. He wants to go out and actually spend time at A dinner with you. A dinner that we would pay for if you'll agree to meet up with him again. Well, that was at the start. I don't know about you. Delete the last three weeks from your mind and just remember after that first date how good you felt about each other.
Lisa
Yeah, I don't know now because I feel like he's gonna. Like he might stand me up.
Alexis
What? Why would he stand you up?
James
Okay, no, no, no, no. She's creating stuff now. Now she's going from a happy hour to a hostel hour, which is gonna probably lead to a hostel dinner.
Brooke
Oh, God, this is too much.
Alexis
Brandon, though. Hostel hour. Yeah. Okay, so wait, does that mean that you're not interested in a date?
James
Not anymore.
Brooke
He said no. Did they both say no? What did I hear?
Lisa
Yeah, I'm not interested in going out with that wind bag.
Brooke
Oh, okay. Okay.
James
That's okay. The feeling is mutual.
Brooke
Oh, wow. Okay, well, this one didn't work out.
Alexis
They've shifted. Those vibes.
Brooke
Shifted. Yeah. In James's words, life is life.
Alexis
Yeah, life is life.
Brooke
Life ain't life. And right now, am I right, James? Yeah.
James
The thrill is gone, but the second.
Brooke
Dates are second dating. They really are looking Jeffrey in the morning. You know, by the end of that call, I don't know if there was anything that we could have said to save that situation. Yeah, they kind of took over. Yeah, Clashing.
Alexis
I think dating is hard for both of them right now. And they just took it out on each other. Like, I'm just thinking about. You know what I mean? Like, it's just like, ah, I hate it all. They're both too busy, sleep deprived baby. They're just arguing.
Brooke
It's like, well, I want more than 30 minutes. Why want a full dinner? Well, I just want to see you. Right. But on a positive note, James did give us three of our top quotes for the entire year. Happy hour turned into hostile hour. Life keeps on lifing. And you want a bread basket with that wine.
James
That was.
Brooke
I don't think I. I kind of worked it. I changed it a little bit. But you said threat now.
Bomhan
Okay.
Brooke
I mean, I actually basket with that one.
Alexis
I always want a bread basket. So my response is always going to be yes.
Brooke
The whole thing was promises made, promises not kept. Good news is we don't make any promises. When you go listen to us on podcast at Brooke and Jeffrey. Just life is life in online. That's how we do. Go check it out online. Wherever you get your podcast at Brooke and Jeffrey.
Alexis
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Jeffrey
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Let's go.
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The big guests continue on Las Culturistas this week. It's the very funny Amy Poehler. Don't overthink it. They talk. Water. We did not drink water growing up. Water was not a thing.
Brooke
Parenting, you got teen boys.
Jeffrey
This is like the black diamond of parenting. And of course, I don't think so, honey. Horror movies.
Alexis
Okay, okay.
Brooke
Amy Poehler is on Loud culture.
Jeffrey
The latest episode is out. Now listen to Las culturistas on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you listen to podcasts.
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Podcast Summary: Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update – "Appetizer Energy, Entrée Problems"
Release Date: April 25, 2025
In the episode titled "Appetizer Energy, Entrée Problems," hosts Brooke and Jeffrey from Brooke and Jeffrey: In the Morning navigate the intricate landscape of modern dating. This episode specifically focuses on the challenges of securing a second date, highlighting the experiences of a listener named James whose promising first date with Lisa takes an unexpected turn. The discussion delves into communication pitfalls, mismatched expectations, and the delicate balance required to foster a budding romantic connection.
At [03:29], the hosts introduce the central story of the episode—James’s journey in attempting to secure a second date with Lisa after what appeared to be a successful first meeting. James describes their initial date as delightful, with genuine chemistry and mutual interest.
James:
"We went to this Italian restaurant, real nice during happy hour, and had a great time. Salad, you know, pots. We try to watch those carbs and stuff, but not salad." [08:32]
The first date included engaging conversation and a shared kiss, setting the stage for what James hoped would evolve into a meaningful relationship. However, despite their promising start, scheduling conflicts and miscommunications begin to strain their connection.
Early in the episode, at [03:51], Brooke and Alexis discuss the nuances of rejection texts, sharing humorous yet telling examples of how people end conversations abruptly. This segment underscores the importance of communication style in the dating process.
Alexis:
"I just send a vomit emoji. Oh, wow. It's over. Is that too harsh?" [03:51]
These discussions set the groundwork for understanding how differing approaches to communication can impact relationships adversely.
James elaborates on the logistical challenges he and Lisa face due to their demanding schedules, which require frequent travel. Despite mutual interest, their attempts to arrange a second date are continually thwarted by conflicting commitments.
James:
"For three weeks, you know, we were just, can we meet here? And she's like, oh, no, my schedule. I gotta go out of town." [06:03]
James attempts to navigate these scheduling woes by proposing alternatives, such as meeting for drinks after Lisa's brunch with friends. However, these suggestions fall flat, leading to frustration and confusion on both sides.
Brooke and Alexis analyze James's efforts to accommodate Lisa's busy schedule, suggesting that his flexible approach may have inadvertently signaled a lack of commitment.
Brooke:
"Others might see it as chaotic and indecisive." [04:58]
This perspective introduces the idea that while flexibility is valuable, it must be balanced with clear and decisive communication to maintain interest and demonstrate genuine effort.
A pivotal moment occurs at [12:15] when Brooke and Alexis successfully connect with Lisa to gain insight into her side of the story. This live interaction reveals the underlying issues that led to the breakdown of their budding relationship.
Lisa:
"If a guy says he wants to buy me dinner, then I'm gonna hold him to that. But with James, our potential meetups became progressively worse." [14:25]
Lisa expresses disappointment that James's subsequent suggestions—such as meeting for drinks after brunch—did not align with her expectations for a more substantial second date. She felt that his efforts lacked the thoughtfulness and commitment she desired.
The conversation between Lisa and James highlights a fundamental miscommunication regarding their expectations for a second date. While James perceived his flexibility as a positive effort to accommodate her schedule, Lisa interpreted it as a lack of genuine interest and commitment.
James:
"I'm trying to make time so I can at least see you and so we can have conversation." [15:28]
Lisa:
"You didn't think about that. I had time to go to brunch. Maybe later that evening, I would have had time for dinner." [16:03]
This misalignment underscores the importance of aligning expectations and clearly communicating intentions in the early stages of dating.
Brooke and Alexis reflect on the story, emphasizing the critical role of clear communication and aligned expectations in fostering successful relationships. They highlight how James’s attempts to juggle plans may have conveyed inconsideration, even though his intentions were sincere.
Brooke:
"This just sounds like a big communication misunderstanding. We're forgetting that they had a great first date." [17:00]
Alexis:
"You want a bread basket with that wine." [20:30]
Ultimately, despite a promising start, the lack of effective communication and mismatched expectations lead to the dissolution of James and Lisa's potential relationship.
Clear Communication is Crucial:
Misunderstandings often arise from unspoken or vague intentions. Clear and direct communication helps ensure both parties are on the same page.
Aligning Expectations:
Understanding and aligning each other's expectations can prevent misinterpretations and promote mutual understanding.
Demonstrating Commitment:
Consistent effort and demonstrating commitment through actions, such as setting concrete plans for dates, reinforce genuine interest.
Flexibility with Boundaries:
While flexibility is important, it should not come at the expense of establishing clear boundaries and maintaining respectful scheduling practices.
James:
"We went to this Italian restaurant, real nice during happy hour, and had a great time." [08:32]
Lisa:
"If a guy says he wants to buy me dinner, then I'm gonna hold him to that." [14:25]
Brooke:
"This just sounds like a big communication misunderstanding." [17:00]
Alexis:
"You want a bread basket with that wine." [20:30]
"Appetizer Energy, Entrée Problems" offers an insightful exploration into the complexities of securing a second date in the modern dating scene. Through James and Lisa's experience, Brooke and Jeffrey illustrate how crucial effective communication and aligned expectations are in transforming a promising first date into a lasting relationship. The episode serves as a valuable guide for listeners navigating similar challenges, emphasizing the importance of clarity, commitment, and mutual understanding in the pursuit of romantic connections.
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