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All right, we're back on your Monday with a brand new second date update for you. You know what you really love, why you're really here. We get you. It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. And we did try a new segment yesterday. Yes, new for you, not new for us. No, not. Not for us. It's Blind Love is where two people go basically on a blind date live on our radio show. And it was a mixed bag. Yeah, I'd say 75% of listeners liked it. Yeah. So, you know, we love the comments coming in. So literally let us know. This one is from Clayton. He wrote I have to know two things. One, have you ever called someone who is actively listening to the Second Date Update live on the radio and they answered knowing exactly what was going on? Oh, here is where we pull the curtain back a little bit. Clayton, those are pre recorded and they're not live on the radio because it takes forever for us to get a hold of these people.
Jeff
Yeah. Would you guys answer a random call at 6:30 in the morning? I don't think so. I mean, 7:30 at the latest.
Brooke
Sometimes we go weeks before we can get the second person on the line. And the magic of editing, we take out all those phone calls. Yeah. And all the ringing and all the voicemails that we go to.
Jeff
Please don't stop listening.
Brooke
Yeah. Okay. And Clayton also wants to know, has anyone ever met through your show? Like someone got rejected and then another viewer asked and got a hold of them. So we don't ever give out people's phone numbers. But if you listen to yesterday's Blind Love is. Yeah, I was gonna say two listeners who wrote in for different things and it didn't work out. Yeah, we put them together. So it works for that. There you go.
Jeff
And that's also good to know. We can't give out people's info, guys. No, people do ask because they'll be like, I want to take out Amy. I'd love to see her, but we can't do that.
Brooke
No, that. That is quite a lot more than privacy. Yeah, we're not going to do that. So, hey, thanks for being here. Keep leaving those comments. If you're on the iHeartRadio app, go ahead and leave us a voice message as well. You can do that there. And hey, let's get into the brand new Second Date update right now.
Jeff
Second Date Update. I'll admit, when I first started dating, I thought people went on dates to like, find true love.
Brooke
Oh, that's funny.
Jeff
I think in the long run, I.
Brooke
Feel like you believed that for a long time.
Jeff
I really did. What a naive little boy. Way to Think. Because some people. Do you not. Some people just date for the free.
Brooke
Meal or for the fun of it. Like meeting somebody new because they're bored. Exactly.
Jeff
Some people just date because they need somebody to administer that EpiPen shot at the shellfish buffet.
Brooke
Oh, my gosh.
Jeff
Why go if you know you're. It's half off of crab's leg. I'm not gonna not eat that. Okay, so, yeah, a lot of reasons. And today, our listener, Lucy, is asking for a second date, even though she isn't a hundred percent sure why she wants to date this guy.
Brooke
That's good. It's been there, Lucy.
Jeff
So hopefully just talking it out with us might give you some clarity, but welcome to the show.
Lucy
Hi.
Brooke
I love it. Like, four minutes into our conversation, she just hangs up. She's like, no, actually not worth it.
Jeff
Never mind. This was a bad choice. Well, Lucy, tell us about this guy that you met. Like, start from the beginning.
Lucy
Okay, so his name is Nate.
Jeff
Okay.
Lucy
I just want to get everything out in the open because I'm confused. I am way better looking than this man and not. Oh, he's not sneezing me.
Brooke
It's coming in hot there.
Jeff
Okay. All right.
Brooke
I like it.
Jeff
Okay, I heard the. He's not as good looking as you. I didn't hear what you said after that.
Brooke
Oh, I only heard the humility. So that's.
Jeff
Sorry. Humble. Lucy, what was the other reason?
Lucy
Well, he's not chasing me the way that I normally get chased after a date.
Jeff
You normally have men, like, physically chasing you, or you just mean, like, most of the times?
Lucy
Yeah, possibly most of the time, yes.
Brooke
Okay, can I guess. I mean, not just his looks, but also his personality is probably not typically what you normally date.
Lucy
No, not really. Like, we met on hinge, and he seemed normal, like a nice guy. He's sort of cute. Nothing really special.
Jeff
Stop gagging during the description.
Brooke
No, I've had this happen to my friends. They're like, I'll give a guy a chance. I'll try something different. And then he stops talking to her, and it's like, what's wrong in the world?
Jeff
You know, something is off.
Brooke
I like how she said he seemed normal and he's obviously abnormal because he's not going out with you.
Jeff
But even though he seemed normal and nice and totally out of the ordinary, you still went out with him?
Lucy
I did. I mean, yes. I was kind of bored, so I was like, why not?
Brooke
Wow. Yeah, but personality can add the looks. Once you meet someone, always. So how was it when you first met him. Like, what was that moment like?
Lucy
Well, he invited me to a bar for happy hour, and it was kind of early for a date. It was like five.
Brooke
Well, that's happy hour. Yeah.
Jeff
Yeah. Okay.
Brooke
Yeah.
Jeff
You're used to the late night crowd, so.
Brooke
All right, so what happened?
Lucy
The conversation went well. He was more confident than I thought he would be. He was dressed very well.
Brooke
When you. Can I just ask, like, it sounds like you're saying he's wearing confident because you still think he's not very attractive.
Lucy
Correct.
Brooke
Okay, so I want to know when you very first saw him, what was your reaction?
Lucy
I think it was like, I'm doing this guy a favor.
Jeff
Okay. You're like, he's not crying yet, but he will be when I'm done with.
Brooke
You didn't say that out loud, right?
Lucy
I'm just being honest. Okay? You guys asked me the question.
Jeff
All right? Sometimes I do see couples, and I'm like, wow, she's gorgeous. How did he pull her? No, I'm wondering, do girls do this? And in their head, it's like a charity case. Well, you have to understand, she's the one that's calling us right now.
Lucy
Yeah.
Brooke
So she's the one chasing him.
Jeff
Yeah. Okay. Although there's a reason we didn't answer your first question, Jose. But that's okay. Yes. So tell us more. What happens during this happy hour drink state.
Lucy
Conversation went well. And then he started asking about what type of food I like. And I was like, he's gonna try to roll this into grabbing dinner with me.
Jeff
Oh, God.
Brooke
Oh, you said cool. No, she thought, oh, okay.
Jeff
I thought, she's like, oh, God, this guy's gonna try and feed me too. Is that kind of where you're normally at, Lucy?
Lucy
I mean, you're making it sound like it's out of the ordinary, but that's not where my head was at the time.
Brooke
Okay, you're excited to continue the date with him?
Lucy
Excited might be a strong word. Like medium excited.
Jeff
All right. Okay. All right. Willing to go along with it a little longer? Yeah.
Lucy
Okay. But here's the weird thing. I tell him what kind of food I'm interested in. Like, Italian, Japanese. And his response, cool. Well, anyway, this has been chill, but I gotta go meet up.
Jeff
Like, wait, immediately. That was his response to you?
Brooke
That's not even a good review of the date. Like, this has been chill.
Lucy
Why would you even ask what I like to eat? And I just said, meet up with who? And he was like, oh, just a friend. I'll catch you later, though.
Jeff
Oh, okay. To know something. This guy may be a huge player. This feels like the perfect.
Brooke
I don't think so. I think that he just maybe saw through that you.
Jeff
She's fake.
Brooke
Weren't attracted to him, and. And you were interested in surface things.
Lucy
Did you miss that? I am way better looking than him. Like, he never should have had a chance.
Brooke
Some people aren't looking for just look. Or you gave off, like, I'm better than you vibes like you.
Jeff
But he did say, I'll catch you later. So there's some hope for a second meet up there. Did he ever. Was that the end of all conversation?
Lucy
Well, I texted him a little later and, hey, I had a really great time. It was cool meeting you. And he just hearted it. What is that?
Jeff
Okay, he could have just thumbs up and that would have been.
Brooke
I can't wait to talk to this guy. I don't feel like. Like, why do you want to go out with him again? It's just like a game.
Nate
I don't.
Brooke
Well, then why are we calling him?
Jeff
Yeah, what made you reach out to us for help?
Brooke
Well, we have to hear his side.
Lucy
I'm too curious. Like, who did he have to meet that was more important than me at that moment?
Jeff
Someone prettier.
Brooke
I'm going to tell you, I don't think you're going to like anything he says.
Jeff
Yeah, no, maybe his, like, family member was in the hospital and he had to go visit her or him at that point. Would that change your mind?
Lucy
You don't say meet up with someone if you're going to the hospital.
Jeff
Yeah, my dad's pretty much dead right now. I'll see you later. Got to go meet up.
Brooke
She had decided the moment she saw him that she was not going to go out with him again. It's just that he isn't calling her back. It's driving her nuts.
Jeff
There is a little bit of a power dynamic on, and I am excited to hopefully get him on the phone. We'll see what he has to say if he answers in your second date update right after this.
Ryan Seacrest
Hold on. Second date update.
Jeff
Let's recap what we know about our listener Lucy and her date with Nate the other day.
Brooke
It's a rough one, Jeff.
Jeff
Well, I don't know. Number one, according to her, she is way hotter than him.
Brooke
Yeah.
Jeff
Number two, he was lucky to be going out with someone as hot as she was.
Ryan Seacrest
Sure.
Jeff
And number three, his personality was fine, but not as fine as her hotness.
Brooke
Yeah.
Jeff
And despite all of that, Nate was the one who cut their date short after just one drink.
Brooke
So weird. It seems like she's so deep. Like they had so many.
Jeff
It is. At one point, she was shocked that he was confident in talking to her.
Brooke
Yeah, why would he be confident?
Jeff
Eye contact. I'm not sure. But it's all very unusual for Lucy. Clearly, it's got her a little bit flustered, very confused. Which is the reason why she wants us to give him a call and get some answers. Right, Lucy?
Lucy
You guys make me sound like I'm so shallow. I'm not.
Brooke
Okay, okay. You know what? I think that just the conversation we had made that happen. But.
Lucy
Yeah, yeah, but I am just trying to paint a picture for you here. I think it's very important to note that I am, in fact, hotter than him.
Jeff
Okay. Factually. Not like a brat. We're not disputing that. We all. We all agree.
Brooke
I want photos. Well, to compare, let's just say.
Jeff
Don't you get Lucy. We're all taking your word for it. But I think what. What would really help us is if you could think of one nice thing to say about him that we could bring up once we get him on the phone, something that you liked about him. That's a good idea, Jeff.
Lucy
He really did hold down a conversation. Well.
Brooke
Okay.
Jeff
Hold the convo.
Brooke
That's. Okay. You actually sound sincere about that, which I appreciate.
Lucy
Okay. When I say he did that, he barely did it, but he did it.
Jeff
Okay, well, I'm just going to make a note. He knows how to have a conversation so that I can compliment him, sort of.
Brooke
No, don't add that. Let's just end it there.
Jeff
I'm just going to bring it up to him just so we can say something nice, and that usually helps people open up a little bit.
Brooke
He sounds like a confident, great guy.
Jeff
Okay. So let's hope he holds a conversation. We're going to talk to him on the radio if he answers.
Brooke
That's true.
Jeff
First we got to get him on the phone. Let me dial him. We'll see if he picks up, and then we can move from there. Here we go.
Nate
Hello?
Jeff
Hey, is this Nate?
Lucy
Yeah.
Brooke
Oh, yeah. He's got a cute voice. Oh, wow.
Jeff
Brooke coming on strong.
Ryan Seacrest
Okay.
Brooke
Give him some compliments. Okay. Alexis.
Jeff
All right.
Nate
Who's this?
Jeff
This is. We're a radio show. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.
Brooke
Hey, Nate. Welcome to the show.
Nate
Okay.
Jeff
Good morning.
Nate
Yeah, I'm a little busy right now, man. What's going on?
Jeff
Yeah, so we won't Take up too much of your time. What we're doing is a segment, it's called a second date Update, where we're trying to help one of our listeners get back in touch with you after you two went out on a hot date the other night.
Brooke
A short date. I think he ended it pretty short.
Nate
Who are you talking about?
Jeff
It's a woman named Lucy.
Nate
Lucy? Yeah.
Jeff
Okay. You went from super serious to laughing.
Nate
It totally checks out. It totally checks out that she'd be the one calling you. Yeah.
Jeff
What does that mean?
Nate
Yeah, she's texted me, like, four times in the last couple days. Like, I barely respond to her. So.
Jeff
Okay, so clearly you. You know what you're doing here. This is all on purpose.
Brooke
It's a power play. It sounds like.
Nate
Well, it's just she's that type of girl. Like, there's a type.
Brooke
What does that mean? Explain the type, though.
Nate
Like, she's very attractive, but she's been told all her life says she's attractive, so she knows it. And then she's like, no, I'm better. And I'm like, okay, relax.
Brooke
So do you. Do you not like her, then? Like, is that negative or positive? I can't tell.
Nate
No, she's fine. It's just a matter of, like, there's two things you got to deal with with women like Lucy. Keep the date really short. Right? That's the thing. You got to keep the day really short. Like, I knew that if I kept a date going longer, longer, I had the suspicion that she was, like, all good, a free meal out of me. And I'm not. That's not what I'm about.
Jeff
Okay, so this. This is like a rule, a strategy that you've come up with for dating beautiful women?
Nate
It's not just beautiful women. It's beautiful women who know that they're beautiful and think that they're better than you because they're beautiful.
Jeff
Good call. O.
Brooke
Okay, so wait, I'm confused, though.
Jeff
Specific type of girl? Well, then most women, in my case.
Brooke
Sorry, I don't get it, though. Like, you want to keep the date short because you want to keep her attracted to you, or you want to keep the date short because you don't ever want to see her again?
Nate
No, it's definitely because I want to keep her interested. And with a woman like Lucy, the longer the date goes, the less interested she becomes because she knows all about you.
Jeff
So you mentioned earlier, there's two things that you always do. You keep the date short. Was one.
Nate
Yeah. Was there another one day short you don't give them any information. You just. Hey, I gotta go. Talk to you later.
Brooke
So when you said you were gonna meet up with a friend, that was a lie?
Nate
That wasn't a lie. That was. We were at the gym. I went to. To go to the gym to meet a friend at the gym. But I'm not gonna give her specifics. I'm not gonna wear and when and with who, because I know that the moment I say that, all the mystery is gone.
Brooke
Wow.
Jeff
Wow. Oh, my God. Yeah. Who's used to dating hot girls?
Brooke
Okay, so she found. She found someone who outgated. I mean, that's what it is.
Jeff
So, clearly, you seem to have some sort of strategy with her.
Brooke
Is some.
Jeff
Well, a very clear. A very clear plan. When do you plan to actually meet up with her again? Like, how do you make that happen?
Nate
Well, when I reach out to her, I'll say, like, hey, do you want to get a couple drinks? Or do you want to get some dinner tonight? And it's always got to be, like, last minute.
Brooke
Okay, yeah, throw her a bone.
Nate
I've been dodging her, and I've been keeping it vague for so long that now she's gonna be like, oh, I gotta check where the iron's hot. That.
Ryan Seacrest
That's interesting.
Jeff
All right.
Brooke
I'm worried we ruined his plan.
Jeff
Yeah, you're breaking Brook's spirit. The more that you talk about it.
Brooke
It'S just like, well, you could have been so.
Nate
Really?
Brooke
I'm proud of him.
Jeff
Yeah, I think he's proud of himself, clearly.
Brooke
Put this energy or go out with someone who thinks they're better than you.
Nate
Yeah, I definitely wouldn't do this with everybody. I don't do this whole, like, every woman is the same thing. I just know the type of woman, and when I ask her, hey, what do you like to eat? And she's, like, hinting at the most expensive restaurants. Oh, this? Come on, dude.
Jeff
Yeah. Okay, you know how these women are. They try and, like, manipulate you. They try and, like, tell you how to live the relationship, and then they wait on the other line of this phone call, listening in on this radio show this entire time to everything that you said. Right?
Nate
Well, what are you talking about? What does that mean?
Jeff
Well, I thought. I thought you would have known by now. Lucy's on the other line listening to this.
Nate
What?
Lucy
What?
Jeff
Yeah, that's how this works. Lucy, are you there?
Lucy
Hi, Nathan.
Jeff
He was Nate before. Wow. He's by his full name.
Lucy
You seriously thought, like, you were gonna hit my confidence? Babe, you can't breadcrumb me, okay? I own the bakery.
Brooke
What?
Jeff
Oh, God.
Nate
Lucy. Lucy, you can't say all of this after you've called the radio station. To get a hold of you.
Brooke
You're not.
Lucy
I'm not? I was curious about why you were being an. And now I know. Because you like games.
Jeff
What?
Nate
I just. I'm better at the game than you are.
Lucy
I'm just a pickup artist. Okay, you think negging women is the way to go? You are an idiot.
Nate
No, that's not true at all. That's not true at all. I think negging you is the right word.
Lucy
Well, guess what, honey? It doesn't work that way.
Brooke
It does. Wasn't it just.
Nate
Did you literally called the radio station to get a hold of me? How are you saying that?
Jeff
This is.
Lucy
No one treats me like that. No one treats me like that.
Brooke
Everybody's talking at the same time.
Jeff
In her defense, which she probably doesn't have a lot she did say, remember? Even if he likes me, I don't want to go out with him again.
Brooke
I'll just put that out there. I mean, here's the thing, Lucy. Like, it's not that you're beautiful, it's that you're.
Lucy
I am?
Jeff
Yeah. Brooke.
Brooke
Yeah, I understand.
Jeff
Give her the respect that she's due. She's gorgeous.
Brooke
The reason he's playing the game is because you go around acting like you're better than everybody else. And that is.
Lucy
Facts are facts. I am better looking than him.
Jeff
Okay, well, he's on the phone. He is listening to this.
Brooke
Lucy.
Nate
Yeah, she absolutely is better looking than me. But I have her wrapped around my little finger.
Lucy
I got your finger right here. Okay. Can you guess?
Brooke
Big one.
Jeff
Well, let's save that for the bedroom, guys, because this is getting a little bit spicy.
Ryan Seacrest
Lucy.
Jeff
What? I think I. I'm trying to just read between the lines of that conversation. And what Lucy was trying to say is she's willing to give you one more chance. She. To do the date the right way.
Brooke
I think she's talking right now.
Jeff
Well, Lucy, this is going to be my time because I. We're running. We're running short here because I have to ask. Nate, would you be willing to go out with Lucy one more time?
Lucy
You asked me. You don't need to ask him because I reject him.
Brooke
You reject him? Is that. Was that your last power move?
Nate
Lucy?
Jeff
She was scared. He's gonn.
Nate
Okay, I'm not even going to say yes or no. That's the beauty of you. I'm just going to leave it vague and I'll just wait for her text later.
Brooke
No.
Jeff
Oh, bro, you think she's texting?
Brooke
He's so good. He's so good.
Jeff
I know.
Brooke
Alexis wants to text you.
Jeff
All right. It's a game of chicken.
Brooke
You need to see you. I'll text you.
Jeff
Who's going to text who first?
Lucy
Nathan, you son of a.
Brooke
It's going to be her.
Jeff
Yeah. She's going to give in right now. Look at Jeffrey in the morning. Is it just me, or was that guy, like, the hot girl whisperer? Just knows exactly what to say to any hot girl to have them eating out of his hand.
Brooke
I don't think it's that hard when they're not that deep, Jeff. Yeah.
Jeff
But that is. That in itself is like a crazy, difficult thing for a guy to do.
Brooke
But why would you want to. That's my whole point. There's plenty of hot girls that have substance. Like, why would you want one without it?
Ryan Seacrest
Show me one.
Brooke
Jev, it's not a Hey, I got out of pink dinner for her right here. She's a hot girl with substance. That's nice of you. That's true. The room's silent, but I'm glad you think so, bro.
Jeff
I mean, this whole strategy really was just like. Basically, don't say anything.
Brooke
Yeah, right.
Jeff
For guys.
Nate
Yeah.
Jeff
Just stay vague. Don't tell them anything. Which is interesting. And this is why I'll never get dates, because I can't shut up. So if we want hot girls to listen to our podcast, I guess we should just be vague about it. Yeah. So any hot girls? It's online somewhere. Comedians. Yeah, Go find it.
Brooke
We got a bouncer. Never gonna date someone higher.
Jeff
Yeah, but think about. The hot girls are gonna listen to our podcast.
Brooke
Oh, I'm sure. Yeah, that's right. They can't resist you.
Jeff
By the way, the official one is Brooke and Jeffrey second date update. There's a lot of fakes and knockoffs right now, so don't be fooled.
Brooke
I mean, seriously. Thank you.
Jeff
Brooke and Jeffrey's second date update. Find it online wherever you get your podcast.
Brooke
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
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Release Date: March 17, 2025
Podcast: Brooke and Jeffrey on iHeartPodcasts
In the "Second Date Update: Beauty and the Meh" episode, hosts Brooke and Jeffrey delve into the challenges and humorous aspects of navigating second dates after being ghosted. This episode particularly spotlights a listener, Lucy, who seeks advice on why her recent date with Nate didn't lead to a second outing.
Brooke and Jeffrey introduce a new segment called Blind Love, where two individuals embark on a blind date live on the radio. Although the segment received mixed reactions—with about 75% positive feedback—they acknowledge the complexities of producing live dates on-air.
Notable Quote:
Brooke [03:57]: "Sometimes we go weeks before we can get the second person on the line. And the magic of editing, we take out all those phone calls."
Lucy reaches out to Brooke and Jeffrey expressing confusion over her date with Nate. She admits uncertainty about her reasons for wanting a second date, highlighting that Nate isn't reciprocating her interest.
Notable Quotes:
Jeff [04:26]: "Second Date Update. I'll admit, when I first started dating, I thought people went on dates to find true love."
Lucy [05:14]: "Hi. I love it. Like, four minutes into our conversation, she just hangs up. She's like, no, actually not worth it."
Brooke and Jeffrey dissect Lucy's account, exploring potential reasons behind Nate's lack of interest. They discuss Lucy's concerns about appearance and Nate's behavior during and after the date.
Notable Quotes:
Jeff [05:40]: "He's not as good looking as you. I didn't hear what you said after that."
Brooke [06:21]: "No, not really. Like, we met on hinge, and he seemed normal, like a nice guy. He's sort of cute. Nothing really special."
Determined to get to the bottom of the situation, Brooke and Jeffrey decide to call Nate live on air to hear his side of the story. The transition introduces a candid and somewhat confrontational dialogue between Nate and Lucy.
Notable Quotes:
Jeff [13:29]: "He's got a cute voice. Oh, wow."
Nate [14:11]: "Yeah, she's fine. It's just a matter of, like, there's two things you got to deal with with women like Lucy."
The live call reveals tensions as Lucy confronts Nate about his disinterest and perceived gamesmanship. Nate admits to having strategies for dating women he deems highly attractive, aiming to maintain their interest without divulging personal information.
Notable Quotes:
Lucy [17:54]: "You seriously thought, like, you were gonna hit my confidence? Babe, you can't breadcrumb me, okay? I own the bakery."
Nate [19:38]: "Yeah, she absolutely is better looking than me. But I have her wrapped around my little finger."
Lucy [19:54]: "Nathan, you son of a."
The episode underscores the complexities of dating in the modern age, highlighting issues such as misaligned expectations, communication gaps, and the psychological games individuals might play. Brooke and Jeffrey emphasize the importance of authenticity and mutual respect in fostering meaningful connections.
Notable Quotes:
Brooke [21:11]: "But why would you want one without it? There's plenty of hot girls that have substance."
Jeff [21:35]: "The whole strategy really was just like. Basically, don't say anything."
"Beauty and the Meh" offers a raw and relatable exploration of the dating landscape, blending humor with insightful discussions. Brooke and Jeffrey adeptly navigate listener stories, providing both entertainment and valuable advice for their audience.
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