Second Date Update: Bending and Unfriending

Summary

Podcast Summary: Second Date Update: Bending and Unfriending

Podcast: Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Host: iHeartPodcasts
Air Date: January 30, 2026

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Overview of the Episode

The episode centers on Aaron, a listener hoping to reconnect with Elise after a first date that seemed promising—until she abruptly ended the evening and stopped responding to him. The Second Date Update team investigates why she ghosted him, uncovering her unusual “dating rules” and leading to a dramatic confrontation on air.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Aaron’s Themed First Date—Romantic Gone Awry

• Aaron chose a restaurant near the airport to appeal to Elise's love of travel, as stated on her dating profile.
• The ambiance was overtaken by airplane noise:

  “The engines were so loud, we ended up not even able to hear each other.” — Aaron (06:42)

• They pivoted to a quieter restaurant, where conversation deepened about family, friends, jobs, and values.

The Date’s Awkward Ending

• After dinner at the second spot, Elise immediately asked for the check and insisted on splitting the bill.

  “She paid for half of it. She insisted on paying for half of it. And there was no kiss or hug. She just walked in her car.” — Aaron (09:51)

• The hosts interpret this as a clear sign of Elise’s disinterest, suspecting she wanted to avoid any feeling of indebtedness.

Aaron’s Motivation

• For Aaron, Elise stood out:

  “She’s the first quality girl that I’ve been out with in half a year.” — Aaron (10:27)

• He’s perplexed about the sudden shut-down after what seemed like a good connection.

Reaching Out to Elise—The Reveal

• Elise answers the show’s call and is caught off guard but candidly explains her approach:

  “Honestly, if I’d met him last year, it probably would have worked, but now I’m just, like, adhering to some strict dating rules.” — Elise (14:06)

Elise’s 5 “Strict Dating Rules”

1. Financial stability—“If you don’t make good money. Cut.” (15:00)
2. Therapy—“If you haven’t gone to therapy. Cut.” (15:00)
3. Politeness—“If you’re rude to wait staff or janitors. Cut.” (15:49)
4. Honesty/Faithfulness—“If you’ve ever lied to or cheated on a significant other. Cut.” (16:00)
5. Friends’ Behavior—“If you have any friends who lie or cheat. Cut.” (16:26)

• Aaron violated rule #5:

  “You know, I asked him, ‘Have you ever been cheated on?’ And he’s like, ‘No, but get this, my friend was… He cheated on her and blah, blah, blah.’ And he was like, super enthusiastic, and I was, like, disgusted.” — Elise (16:47)

The Confrontation: Should Friends Define You?

• Elise stands firm:

  “I don’t want to involve myself at this point in my life with people who support liars and cheaters.” — Elise (17:51)

• Aaron is incredulous:

  “That’s my best friend. He runs a nonprofit for children. I would sit here and say he’s a good guy.” — Aaron (19:16)

• Elise offers a conditional second date—only if Aaron severs ties with his friend and shows proof:

  “If he’s willing to sever ties with this guy, I might be willing to go out again… I need to look at your phone and see you deleted his number.” — Elise (18:51 & 19:00)

• Aaron decisively refuses:

  “I can’t do that. I can’t cut off my best friend because… for a second date.” — Aaron (20:19)

Reflections from the Hosts

• The team debates Elise’s standards and whether friends’ actions should impact a romantic prospect:

  “If every single friend you had who was a cheater, maybe you have some kind of point here, but one person cheated one time accidentally and he had got cheated on first… that’s even harsh.” — Jose (23:08)

• Brooke diplomatically sums up:

  “You can’t argue with how somebody feels… these are her standards.” — Brooke (17:18)

• The hosts lighten the mood by noting the irony that, had they stayed in the loud airplane-restaurant, Elise might never have heard about Aaron's friend.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

“Do we get through this? Do we go our whole first date just yelling at each other, or should we just get on out of there?” — Aaron, on leaving the noisy airport restaurant (07:06)

“No way. No way. Come on.” — Aaron, when asked to drop his best friend for a second date (19:00)

“If you want to go ahead and defend your friend and his negative energy, you guys could just be toxic together. I gotta go.” — Elise, before hanging up (20:25)

“This conversation kind of helped me move on a little bit. I just think that’s so hard-headed.” — Aaron, reflecting on the call (20:44)

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Important Timestamps

• Aaron describes the date: 05:39–07:19
• Discussing the abrupt end: 09:13–10:15
• Aaron explains Elise's significance: 10:17–10:29
• Hosts call Elise and she explains her rules: 13:38–15:49
• Elise details the friendship dealbreaker: 16:26–17:51
• Ultimatum and reaction: 18:51–20:19
• Hosts' analysis and reflections: 22:20–23:37

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Tone & Style

The tone is lighthearted, candid, and humorous, characteristic of “Second Date Update” episodes. The hosts engage with empathy and banter, even as the situation reveals serious issues about boundaries and personal values in dating.

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Summary for New Listeners

This episode provides a prime example of the show’s format: attempting to solve relationship mysteries live on air, with unpredictable twists. It raises questions about personal boundaries, the impact of friends’ actions on dating prospects, and the complexities of modern dating “rules”—all wrapped in the crew’s signature humor and audience-friendly commentary. Elise’s hardline stance is controversial, but the conversation offers an insightful look at differing expectations and non-negotiables in relationships.

Bottom line: Even the best-planned dates can go sideways—and sometimes, it’s the company you keep, not just your own actions, that gets you ghosted.

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Transcript

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[Brooke]

Right, we got a guy who put in a lot of effort in today's new episode. Welcome to the second Date podcast. It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning and he did an entire themed date and it only took his date 15 minutes to say, I don't like this.

[Jose]

Yep.

[Alexis]

And now he's on with us after all that.

[Brooke]

You're gonna hear what happened here in just a second. But first, we love to feature your comments.

[Alexis]

Yes, Alicia said. I'm listening from Canada. I listened to you guys while doing the dishes and shutting down the house for the night. I'm the house closer in the family, so I get the evening cleanup shift and your podcast has me laughing the whole time.

[Brooke]

That is such a genius way to split up chores like day and nights off.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

Who's the closer? Who's the opener?

[Jose]

Counters off.

[Brooke]

I love that Canadians are smarter.

[Alexis]

Yeah, they just got it down.

[Brooke]

All right, your brand new second Date update starts right now.

[Sponsor Voice]

Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning Second Date Update.

[Jeffrey]

What do you do when you book a date somewhere and the location for the date is off?

[Jose]

What do you mean off?

[Jeffrey]

Like things are good between you and your person, but for whatever reason, whether it's the dive bar is too divey or the speakeasy is too easy. Speaking at that point, what do you do then?

[Alexis]

Well, that's when you see someone's personality really sucks about it.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, no, they're great it's just the place is wrong.

[Jose]

You can't find a good destination.

[Jeffrey]

That's what. Our listener Aaron was faced with that exact dilemma, and he managed to make lemons out of lemon trees.

[Brooke]

Wait, what? None of these are the right.

[Jeffrey]

I'm pretty sure that's the expression. So let's learn a little bit more.

[Brooke]

I don't know. But he did not go to the easy speak.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, well, let's find out where he went. Aaron, welcome to the show, man.

[Aaron]

Hey, it's good to be here. Thanks for having me.

[Jose]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

Welcome to the Orchard.

[Aaron]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Where lemon trees grow.

[Brooke]

We hope you thrive.

[Bowen Yang]

Yes.

[Jeffrey]

So we would love to get into your day. First, tell us about this girl and how you met her.

[Aaron]

Okay. So her name is Elise, if I'm allowed to say that on the air.

[Brooke]

I hope so.

[Jeffrey]

Can't believe you just came out with that.

[Brooke]

Is she in a witness protection program?

[Aaron]

Hopefully. I don't hear from her lawyer, but I met her online and her profile said that she liked to travel.

[Brooke]

To travel.

[Bowen Yang]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, all right. Something to work with.

[Brooke]

Unique. Don't hear that.

[Aaron]

Yeah, I. What I did was I took her on an airplane themed date, if you know what I'm saying.

[Brooke]

I don't know.

[Jeffrey]

I mean, you boarded a plane and flew somewhere.

[Brooke]

Did you stand in line for a long time holding lots of luggage and pretend like you were in tsa?

[Aaron]

No. In retrospect, flying somewhere exotic might have been cooler, but I took her to a restaurant close to the airport so we could watch the planes, you know, taking off and landing. Kind of romantic, right?

[Jose]

What do they call that? Plane spotting?

[Brooke]

I think that's a cute idea. It shows that you paid attention to what she liked and you tried to find a unique way to try it in.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, she must have been surprised when you came up with that idea.

[Aaron]

She was surprised by it being as close to the airport as it was. Yeah, I thought it was romantic, but the engines were so loud, we ended up not even able to hear each other.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, no. Is that really important for a first date, though?

[Aaron]

What?

[Jose]

You said, every 10 seconds, another one.

[Brooke]

You have a brother. That's awful.

[Aaron]

So she asked why we're eating at the airport, and I'm kind of thinking to myself, do we. Do we get through this? Do we go our whole first day just yelling at each other, or should we just get on out of there? That's what we did.

[Brooke]

Oh, you left. Okay, you guys did. You pivoted. And she was interested enough to go to a second location with you.

[Aaron]

Yeah, you know I did say sorry. It's because I thought you liked to travel. But another restaurant, it was quieter, and we kind of talked about ourselves a little bit more.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Jose]

Okay.

[Brooke]

It sounds like you had great conversation. Was there any weird points for you?

[Aaron]

Well, I think it was good for the most part. I told her a bit about my job. I'm an escalator tech. She told me that she was a paralegal, and I didn't even know what that meant, as a matter of fact.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, where's the other one? Repair a pair of legal.

[Aaron]

Okay.

[Brooke]

You can save that for your next date if we get it worked out.

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[Jose]

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[Jeffrey]

She'll love it.

[Aaron]

Okay, there you go. There you go. But, you know, the conversation got deeper. Family, friends, stuff we were really interested in. Passion, that kind of stuff.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. I mean, if anybody starts asking, like, deep questions about your family or the people that you spend a lot of time with, in my mind, that would be a really good sign. But I don't know, Alexis, for you, would that be a good conversation for you to have on a first date? Are you trying to avoid. You're just trying to tread water, not.

[Alexis]

To bring it down. I'm just saying, like, just because you like talking to somebody about that doesn't mean you like them like them. You could just be interested in the conversation and, like.

[Jose]

Or off of that, you could just be like, this will get him to talk for 10 minutes. Tell me about your family.

[Jeffrey]

Were you getting a vibe from her either way?

[Aaron]

Well, I definitely got the impression that she was really trying to get a feel of who I am, which made me think that she was interested.

[Jose]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

All right. She actually cares, Alexis. I mean, even though she's not calling you back now, at least for that part of the conversation, she was into it.

[Brooke]

How long ago was your date?

[Aaron]

About five days ago.

[Bowen Yang]

Okay.

[Brooke]

You should have had something. Yeah, that's like, almost a week.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. How did you two leave it that night?

[Aaron]

That's when it got awkward, actually. As soon as they clear the plates at the end of dinner, the waiter didn't even ask if we wanted dessert. She just said, we'll get the check when you get a second.

[Jose]

Oh, your date. Ask for the check immediately.

[Jeffrey]

Before the waiter could even offer to, like, bring the menus back. I see. Okay.

[Jose]

As a former server, that's kind of rude. A lot of times there's a whole spiel involved with the dessert menu.

[Brooke]

Jose's like, do you know how hard I took to memorize that?

[Jose]

Thank you, bro.

[Brooke]

Give me my moment.

[Jeffrey]

But it sounds like maybe you got the feeling that she was done hanging out with you. Yeah, but she was ready to leave.

[Aaron]

Exactly. Exactly. She paid for half of it. She insisted on paying for half of it. And there was no kiss or hug. She just walked in her car.

[Jeffrey]

Brooke, why did you say, oof? Is that not a good sign?

[Brooke]

I mean, it's one thing if there's a discussion and you're like, no, let me know, but it sounds like she just didn't want to feel in any way indebted to you.

[Alexis]

Yeah, you pay if you don't really want to owe him.

[Brooke]

Like.

[Aaron]

Yeah, I don't know what's up with that.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, we're about to call Elise in a second here, but your email said you're really hoping that we can get a hold of her because, quote, she's the first Quality Girl that I've been out with in half a year.

[Aaron]

Six months is a long time, okay?

[Jose]

Some people get a lot more dates than others.

[Jeffrey]

And you know what? We want to do that for you, Aaron. If you did mess up, we would like to figure out what exactly the mistake was that could help you for the next future. Six months of bad dates.

[Brooke]

It'll help him fix what's with her and go out with her again.

[Aaron]

Yeah. Hoping.

[Jeffrey]

Brooke, you are right, but I do want to be realistic here.

[Brooke]

Okay?

[Jeffrey]

She's not calling him back. Well, let's find out why when we come back and do your second date update right after this.

[Aaron]

Thank you. Hold on.

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Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

[Brooke]

Second date update.

[Jeffrey]

You know, I really like our listener, Aaron because he sounds like a good dude. Yeah, and resourceful too.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

Not only was he a thoughtful guy who planned a very special date for Elise, cuz she said on her profile that she's really into travel, so he took her to a restaurant by the airport.

[Brooke]

Hey, look at that.

[Jeffrey]

It turns out it was literally right by the airport.

[Jose]

Yeah, a little too close.

[Jeffrey]

Directly next to it, where thanks to all the planes, they could barely hear each other speaking. And being that resourceful guy that he is, he pivoted to another place a little farther away where they could actually communicate with each other. And he got to learn a little bit more about Elise and she got to know more about him until she suddenly cut the date short.

[Brooke]

Which is too bad, because I feel like you really proved you can handle a situation.

[Alexis]

We love a good pivot.

[Aaron]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Aaron]

Thank you. You're welcome.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

Just trying to hype you up a little bit because sometimes these can be a little rough.

[Jeffrey]

The thing is, what caused her to have the sudden change of heart and basically storm out.

[Brooke]

She didn't storm out. She just asked for the check abruptly.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Alexis]

And then paid for her hat.

[Jeffrey]

That's stormy. Stormy adjacent.

[Brooke]

All right, all right.

[Jeffrey]

I don't know. That's the thing. We don't know. That's the whole point of this segment.

[Brooke]

That is a good point.

[Jeffrey]

So we're hoping to find that out. If she answers our phone calls, and we are going to call her constantly until she picks up.

[Brooke]

We're not creepy at all.

[Bowen Yang]

No.

[Brooke]

No.

[Jeffrey]

You cool with that, Aaron?

[Aaron]

I already cleared my schedule.

[Brooke]

Okay, beautiful.

[Jose]

We're all committed to this.

[Jeffrey]

All right, we're all in. Let's do it. I'm gonna call it right now.

[Elise]

Hello?

[Jeffrey]

Hey, Elise, this is Jeff from Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning. How are you doing?

[Elise]

I'm sorry, who's this?

[Jeffrey]

Okay, this is a radio show. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.

[Jose]

Hi, Elise.

[Jeffrey]

Good morning.

[Brooke]

This is Elise, right? We didn't actually confirm that.

[Jeffrey]

No, this is Elise. Even if it's not Elise, we'll talk to you. We can't see her.

[Elise]

Okay. This is so random.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Elise]

What are you calling about?

[Jeffrey]

We are calling about this segment we do. It's called the Second Date Update. And the reason for it is one of our listeners has reached out hoping that we can get a hold of you after you went on a date with him. You're not calling him back anymore. It's a guy named Aaron.

[Elise]

Oh, my gosh.

[Jose]

Okay.

[Aaron]

All right.

[Sponsor Voice]

Yeah.

[Elise]

So Aaron, I don't really understand why you guys are calling me.

[Jeffrey]

Because he told us about the day that you two hung out near the airport and then at a second restaurant.

[Brooke]

And he was, like, so bummed because he had, like, come up with this great idea based on your interest of travel, and then it kind of backfired.

[Elise]

Okay.

[Aaron]

Okay.

[Elise]

So you guys know about the date?

[Jeffrey]

Yes. And what we don't know is if there's a reason why you're kind of. It seems like to him that you're avoiding him.

[Elise]

No.

[Jeffrey]

And actually, according to him, you stopped the date kind of abruptly.

[Elise]

Yeah, no, no. I mean, things just sort of ended. Like, he's. He's really nice. Honestly, if I'd met him last year, it probably would have worked, but now I'm just, like. I'm just adhering to, like, some strict dating rules that I'm not breaking just so I can have a lot more clarity in this whole dating world.

[Brooke]

Oh, that's interesting.

[Jose]

Like he's shorter than your minimum or something?

[Elise]

No, no, nothing like that.

[Jeffrey]

Sorry, I'm gonna have to apologize for my co host Jose here. He doesn't like rules. They tend to hold him back.

[Brooke]

He hasn't been able to follow him since kindergarten.

[Jose]

Yeah, honestly, I'm a rebel.

[Jeffrey]

But if you've laid some rules down for your dating life that could be.

[Brooke]

Healthy, can you share any of them with us?

[Jeffrey]

Are we allowed to know?

[Elise]

You really want to know?

[Brooke]

Yeah. I mean, honestly, people listening may be like, that's a good idea.

[Jeffrey]

Especially tell our homeboy. Yeah. Especially if Aaron had broke one of them.

[Elise]

Okay, so here they go. Number one, if you don't make good money. Cut. Number two, if you haven't gone to therapy. Cut.

[Aaron]

Okay, wait, wait, wait.

[Jeffrey]

What if they haven't gone to therapy ever?

[Brooke]

It kind of makes sense. You don't have to deal with other people's baggage.

[Jose]

Goes to therapy, they're perfect. Got it.

[Elise]

No, not that anyone's perfect. A lot of men haven't dealt with a lot of stuff. And a lot of guys I've been on date with want a trauma bond and I'm like, I. I'm not doing it.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, okay. I mean, these are interesting, but we do have a required time limit on this segment. So how long is the list going to be exactly?

[Brooke]

Or can we get to the point? Our guy broke.

[Elise]

Yeah, there's just five.

[Brooke]

Okay, okay, we got the first two. Money and therapy.

[Elise]

Number three, if you're rude to wait staff or janitors. Cut.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, was he rude to one of the waiters at the restaurant?

[Elise]

No. No, he wasn't.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, okay, that wasn't the one.

[Elise]

Number four, if you've ever lied to a. Cheated on a significant other. Cut.

[Jose]

Yeah, I'm sorry.

[Brooke]

Who hasn't lied to a significant other? That is so vague.

[Jose]

Yeah, that's true.

I'm sorry.

I always focus on the cheating part.

[Elise]

I don't mean like a white lie. I mean like living a double life.

[Brooke]

Okay, okay, big lie.

[Elise]

And number five. And this is the one that got him.

[Jose]

Okay, here we go.

[Jeffrey]

This is the rule that he broke.

[Elise]

If you have any friends who lie or cheat. Cut.

[Brooke]

Why would your friends behavior dictate who you are as a person?

[Elise]

It doesn't dictate who you are, but if who you're hanging out with really determines the kind of person you're going to be and the values you have.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, but wait, how do you know that one of his friends lied or cheated?

[Elise]

You know, I asked him, have he ever been cheated on? And he's like, no, but get this. My friend was. But he got her back. He cheated on her and blah, blah, blah. And he was, like, super enthusiastic, and I was, like, disgusted.

[Jeffrey]

So, okay, so your logic is because one of his friends cheated that on a cheater, that means he's not worth dating?

[Elise]

I didn't say he's not worth dating for somebody else. I said that I don't want to deal with that.

[Jose]

Eliminate almost anybody. Like, everybody is friends with somebody out there. That is.

[Brooke]

These are her standards. That's the hard thing is you can't argue with how somebody feels.

[Jeffrey]

Right.

[Jose]

Yeah, that's absolutely true.

[Jeffrey]

And we can, I guess, respect your rules. The good news is I didn't hear any rules about not quietly listening. Listening in on people's phone conversations. Good job, because that is what Aaron is doing right now. He's on the other line waiting to talk to you.

[Aaron]

Hey, Elise. How you doing? Hi. That's kind of insane, right?

[Brooke]

Whoa, let's not. Let's not start there, okay?

[Jeffrey]

That's not gonna sound a strong word there.

[Aaron]

Well, why am I getting punished for that?

[Elise]

Yeah, I don't want to involve myself at this point in my life with people who support liars and cheaters.

[Aaron]

You didn't hear like, he did it because his girlfriend cheated first and broke it.

[Elise]

I don't care. I don't care. Like, you're here, like, trying to justify it now, and that's literally just making it even worse.

[Brooke]

Yeah, but he sounds like a strong person who knows who he is. Like, sometimes that can be true where if you can be influenced by a friend, if you're not totally certain of who you are. Yeah, I mean, Aaron seems like he's there, man.

[Elise]

Sorry. You got all that information from this phone call, or did you date him?

[Aaron]

Good.

[Jose]

Point of the doubt. He's our friend. We're trying to help him.

[Elise]

Yeah, I mean, that's that thing with friends. Like, if you're calling everybody and anyone your friends. I don't know. I just. I'm just trying to keep a tighter circle at this point, and I just want to be clear about the kind of people I want in my life.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. Okay, so it sounds like your mind is made up, Elise, and there's no way that you will break or even bend this rule to give him another chance.

[Elise]

I don't know. I mean, honestly, if he's willing to sever ties with this guy, I don't know, maybe with his friend, I might be willing to go out again.

[Aaron]

No way. No way. Come on.

[Jeffrey]

You want him to break off an entire friendship?

[Brooke]

I would say I wouldn't want to.

[Alexis]

Date someone who would do that.

[Aaron]

Yeah.

[Elise]

For a girl.

[Jose]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. Aaron, what do you think about that ultimatum?

[Aaron]

I'm flabbergasted. I have never met anyone that is so like. I don't think you know that. That's my best friend. He runs a nonprofit for children.

[Brooke]

What?

[Jeffrey]

Oh.

[Aaron]

I would sit here and say he's a good guy.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, most cheaters are until they slide behind your back.

[Brooke]

And just because you cheat once doesn't define who you are as a person for the rest of your life. Like, relationships are messy. It's not like he was like sleeping around on his wife or something, you know?

[Jeffrey]

Elise, go ahead and tell my co host why she's wrong.

[Elise]

Listen, you guys can say whatever want, but this is what I believe. If he's willing to sever the friendship, we can try it again.

[Jose]

Okay.

[Aaron]

Oh my God.

[Elise]

But I need to look at your phone and see you deleted his number.

[Aaron]

Oh.

[Jeffrey]

Aaron, do you want to ditch your best friend in order to go out with a lease one more time? Because we'll pay for it.

[Brooke]

Just a small stipulation to a nice second date.

[Jeffrey]

Exactly. We just need a yes or no, Aaron.

[Aaron]

Gosh, you're thinking about it.

[Brooke]

I think he's just.

[Aaron]

I can't. I can't do that. I can't cut off my best friend because. For a second date. Yeah.

[Elise]

And you know what? And that's why we didn't even have to have this conversation. I left there as politely as possible. I paid for my food. And if you want to go ahead and defend your friend and his negative energy, you guys could just be toxic together. I gotta go.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, wow.

[Brooke]

God.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, dude, I think she hung out.

[Brooke]

Oh, I don't know. Are you sad about it, Aaron?

[Aaron]

I mean, you know, this conversation kind of helped me move on a little bit. I just think that's so hard headed.

[Jose]

Does anyone else find it ironic that like if he would have stayed at the airplanes flying over, she would have probably never heard that.

[Aaron]

Yeah.

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Oh, that's nice, Jeffrey. You don't see it as any sort of red flag?

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No. She wants the absolute best for you. It's just like I remember my mom used to tell me my friends were a bad influence. Oh, and you know what? She was right.

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Oh, she was?

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I bet 10 years from now Aaron's going to be working probably in radio, looking back on this moment, saying I should have listened to Elise, should have ditched my friends, and I would be in a much better place.

[Brooke]

It's doubtful. Yeah, it's highly doubtful.

[Jeffrey]

I don't know. He values friendship, I guess. So Good for you, Aaron.

[Jose]

I kind of understand, but like if every single friend you had who was a cheater, maybe you have some kind of point here, but one person cheated one time accidentally and he hasn't got cheated on first. Yeah, that's even harsh.

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The guy works at a non profit.

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Non profits don't typically have owners.

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