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Welcome to the podcast. It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. And today we got either romantic or a cringy first kiss story. I feel like we're very NPR right now. Yes, we are. I don't know. I like your vibe right now, bro. Dude, I'm just. Honestly, I'm kind of overly emotional today because my daughter's done with fifth grade today. Oh, the tears and never see you again. She doesn't move after fifth grade. Yeah, mommy's going to live with her in the dor. It's gonna be the coolest. Oh, no. So sorry. I didn't mean to be so npr. It's all good. I like it. All right, what about comments? What do we got? Alexis? Yes. Zane said I, 31 years old, showed one of your podcasts to my coworker 67, and he absolutely loved it. But then he heard one where they didn't get back together at the end. And now I have to pre listen to them before showing him because I'm not allowed to show him the sad ones. That's kind of adorable. I like that the 67 year old believes in love, Stone. Yeah, I don't know that the success rate is as high as he's gonna was. You know, I don't want to laugh through this whole thing and have it be sad at the end. Right. They better finish fun. They're usually just mad at each other at the end. I don't know if it's sad, but they're all funny. So let's get him to cope a little more. See how today's goes. It's going to start right now. Second date update. Brooke, I want you to think about the best date that you've ever been on. Oh, that's cute. I know it's probably not with your husband. No, it is with my husband Jeff. Nobody here expected it would be. But what's. What's the thing that happened that made you say this date tops them all? That's a big question. Honestly, it's just the person I'm with. Like, it's boring. Are you talking about yourself again? The fireworks are like the chef made me a $700 snail. The three way kiss at the end, that's it. That's what it was with the waiter. Okay, yeah, that makes sense. Well, one of our listeners emailed the show saying his most recent date is easily. Ranks number one all time easily. And I'm just assuming he's been on more than one. Otherwise, that statement really doesn't say much. So let's talk to Chris about it. Chris, welcome to the show, man. How you doing? Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my call. I really appreciate it. Yeah, you're putting a lot of pressure on this first date. Yeah. You have been on more than one date in your life, right? Yes. No, I've been in a lot of dates in the last few years, and honestly, none of them really hit at all. Like, I didn't feel like there was any connection. But this last girl, Ken. Kendra, it was like the date of a lifetime. Okay, are you saying that because of Kendra or because of the activity in the environment? I think it was a combination of the entire. The entire night was kind of great. You'll see. You'll see. By the end, our dating lives will look paltry in comparison. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, let's get right into it. Tell us, where'd you meet Kendra? Okay, so I bought her flowers. We went to a restaurant. Question that I asked her. You're really eager to tell us, and I appreciate that, but, hey, they could have been in the flower shop, maybe. So excited about this story. Where did you meet her? Oh, we. We met online there. Okay. I actually understand why that was a confusing question. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I see. And now where did you two meet? At a restaurant. It sounds like we met at a restaurant. Okay, I'm glad you let him. And he bought her flowers. Okay. And I bought her flowers, which is an important part of the story because she was so shocked by that guy, because no guys buy flowers anymore. That's what she said. At me, at least. Oh, no, guys buy flowers. Well, they are pretty expensive. It's kind of annoying to have at dinner. I've got in trouble. Like, I don't think girls like flowers that much anymore. No, they like them just after. Okay, anyways, that is a good point, Alexis. I mean, what did Kendra do with the flowers after you gave them to her? Well, that was part of the story. The server even complimented the flowers. Oh, when the server complimented the flowers, she offered to let the server put flowers on everyone's tables. So nice. So she accepted your gift and immediately gave it away to the restaurant. Okay. Which when you say it like that, it doesn't sound so good, but it was really nice to watch that happen. And I see other people happy with these flowers. It was a really nice moment. Yeah, look at that. You bought everyone flowers. Well, that is everyone in the restaurant. The one table that doesn't get one. It is a really good move, though. I feel like it looks good in her eyes. And I assume it must have led to some good conversation, to some good moments. It really did. In fact, I'd say it got a little cheesy and so good that I got myself a little vulnerable, if you know what I mean. Oh, the pants came off that quickly? I say it like that. Did you say I cried? Is that what you just said? I didn't cry, but I sort of as a 26 year old, I gave up on meeting anybody at this point. So 26 isn't that old. Just so you know, she's 29 and she said she was going through similar stuff. So it was like we kind of hit on the same subject. That's really cute. What happened at the end of the night? We went back to her place. We walked to her place. She doesn't live that far from the restaurant, so it was really nice. Romantic walk. Did you hold hands? We held tinkies. That's even better. I don't know. That's the friend finger, if anything. Yeah. Wait, you have a friend finger? That's the one. You do pinky promises with your friends? Oh, I thought you were going somewhere else. I thought he was too. Anyway, did you, after the pinky holding, did you get a kiss? So it was kind of a funny situation. She lives in a community that has a wall around it and you have to. It's not easy to get into. You know, she's in a biodome or like a prison of some sort. I think it's just an apartment with a gate is what he means. Which are pretty common. Okay, I like bio prison. I'm not familiar, but okay, I. I get it. There's a gate. So there's a gate and she didn't have her key. So you're locked out. Or maybe it's a move that she's pulling where she's like, oh, I can't find my keys. Oh, what would happen? Do you need me to strip search myself? I wasn't going there. Maybe I was more like, maybe we should go back to your place instead. Maybe that's what she. I don't think she need to pull a moved ass to go back to a guy's house for her own place. Yeah, no, I'm standing naked in Front of the gate. That's how Brooks dates go. So what happened, Chris? So I know this sounds ridiculous, but. So I decided to jump the gate. Oh, so you can open it on the other side. She have like, a window, right? Oh, you could open the gate. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I had to climb it and pull myself up over it. As I'm pulling myself up over it, I get stuck. My pants get stuck on it. I'm hanging upside down. No, no. Oh, no. Spiky fences, right? Sexy. Yes, Brooke. I know. Embarrassing. What did she do? Well, she kissed me. What? Spider man kiss. Upside down. An upside down stuck inside her man. And she kissed you? I was just as shocked as you were. I guess she likes her men immobile, vulnerable. Really? Now I can get him. I can pounce. Did you like it? Like, was that awkward or was it romantic? Oh, no, it was a nice. It's a very nice romantic moment. But it's been a couple of days since that happened. We texted for a couple of days, and then since then she hasn't gotten back to me. Maybe you're a bad upside down kisser. Yeah, it can be confusing because usually you put your tongue this way, but when you're upside down, it needs to go that way. I practice this. So she found another man suspended on a fence and took care. Maybe that's her thing. Some guy working on the phone lines. Okay, well, we're going to. We're going to come back, we'll call Kendra for you and try to get you your next most romantic date ever. When we get you maybe a right side up kiss, let's not get crazy. We'll do it with your second date update. Next. Next. Second date update. If you're just joining us, we've basically got the real life Peter Parker on the phone who received the rare coveted upside down kiss during his date with Kendra. You didn't see the sequel where. Where Spider man got his, like, pants a little hot? Okay, that's okay. Yeah. We're still in the Toby Maguire universe with this one. Yeah, Toby would totally get his pants stuck on a fence. Yeah, absolutely. It happened after Chris fell while scaling the security gate outside of Kendra's apartment. As you do on a lot of dates are hard to climb, though. Yeah. Honestly, Pants got caught when he fell, and it was there in that embarrassing moment when animal instinct took over and Kendra walked right up to him and smooched him in the face. Which is such a good sign because that really could have been an ick moment for her. Yeah. You know, and Obviously, she thought it was adorable. So no wonder Chris is describing it as his best date ever. But weird that she's not texting him back since she's the one who initiated that moment. You know what? Yeah. We never asked Chris. Did she ever get back into her apartment she locked? Because maybe that's why she hasn't responded. That's a good point. Yeah. Somebody came by a few minutes later and let her in. Oh, okay. I didn't even wait that long. I didn't even think about just waiting till somebody else showed up. Oh, yeah, that would have been smart. We're gonna call Kendra. We'll see if she picks up. And. Oh, God, I hope this works out for you. I mean, there's so much pressure on this one. Yeah, you know, it's like his best date he's ever been on. Well, I felt pretty relaxed until you said that. Now all of a sudden, I'm super stressed out for no reason. Don't screw it up, Jeff. Oh, God. Okay, here we go, then. Hello? Hey, is this Kendra? Who is this? I think that's a yes. She said, who is this? Oh, she said, seriously? No. Yeah, she said, who is this? Sorry, Kendra. Yeah. Hi, Kendra. We're a radio show. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning. How many. How many of you are there? Too many. Yes, I agree. It's a whole show, Kendra. Okay. All right. Yeah. So we're reaching out to you because one of our listeners has asked us to get a hold of you. A guy that you went on a date with recently named Chris. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. So this is all part of a segment we do called a Second Date Update, where we're trying to figure out if there's a reason you have stopped texting him after the date. I mean, obviously. Yeah, obviously not to him. The reason should be obvious. No, no. Just like, it's obvious that, yes, I have a reason. Yeah, okay. We just want to know because we spoke to Chris and he told us about your date, and it sounded actually much better than we ever thought it could have been, given the circumstances. Honestly, I'd love to hear your side of the story. Yeah, okay. It was a good date. Like, it was a really good date, honestly. Oh, cute. Okay. Oh, that's good to hear. I mean, I wouldn't have kissed him at the end of it if it was a bad date. Oh, my God. That's where you and Brooke differ, so that's nice to hear. She's mad at you. You better watch out. No, but he told us about that first kiss. Like, that was crazy. The upside down one? Yeah. I mean, when you have a movie moment, you have to like, take it, right? Oh, you felt like it was that magical too? Like it really was a movie, Mom. Well, yeah, it was a Spider man kiss. Yeah, that's the first thing we jumped to as well. Well, yeah. If that's the case, then why after your movie moment, aren't you calling Chris back? Well, I mean, I don't really know what he told you besides that we kissed. That was kind of. I mean, that was the majority. We know that you guys went to a restaurant. He told us about the flowers, that he brought you flowers, and you guys passed him out among the other tables, immediately gave his gift away. Oh, yes. I. I didn't think he would mind. He thought it was really sweet. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Here's the thing. Chris is great, but he lied to me. What? And I mean, he lied about something pretty big and I. Pretty big? Like what? Like his name or something? Dude. I mean, no, it's not his name. He said that he was 26 and he's like. Like 42. Ish. What? Oh, that's a big. Wait a second. Wait a second. You had a good time, I had a good time. Why does it matter what age anybody is? Okay, okay. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Chris, that doesn't sound good. Yeah, Kendra, you didn't know this, but Chris has been listening on the other line. Maybe with a hearing aid. Yeah. Oh, my God. Was that because I'm 42? Well, that's awesome. Hold on. You are 42. Chris, you told us that you were 26. Yeah, I'm kidding, bro. But age doesn't matter. It doesn't matter how old I am. Again, we had a good time. It doesn't matter. Why did you lie? That's only 13 years difference. Okay, okay. That is wild. And Chris, if age isn't important, then why did you lie about it? Because she wouldn't have gone out with me if I said I was 42. I had to tell her that. Of course, when I was in my 20s, I wouldn't date somebody in her 40s either. Yeah, it happens in Hollywood all the time. Men and women are older than their significant others. Actually normal. A lot of healthy relationships. And it's people having the information to make that choice. Right. So she. You lied to her? Yeah. Kendra, what are your thoughts on this? I mean, here's the thing. Like, I'm not entirely truth about my age on the apps either. What? Wait, I say that I'm 29, but I'm actually 31. But that's not like. Wait a second. Wait a second. You lie about your age online? That's disgusting. Well, girls are allowed. Okay, now you don't really have a leg to stand on being sarcastic. You're being sarcastic, right? No, it's the same. A lie is a lie whether it's 29 or 42. Okay, so you're not upset that she lied about her age because you lied about yours. I'm upset that she's upset about me lying about my age if she lies about hers. Okay, somehow you think no matter what it is, the lies should cancel out and you should be uneven playing field. Yeah, lies should cancel out a lie. Okay, it's kind of messed up that you lied. No, here's my thing. It's like when people are, like, looking for people who they want to date and they go to my age bracket, they're looking for people between 30 and 40, and I don't want the people. Like, I'd rather date someone who's a little bit younger. So you aged out of the age bracket you're interested in is the problem. Yes, but not by 16 years. Can I ask? It's 16. He doesn't know how to do math. It's literally 16. But he's doing the same exact thing that you're doing. He's lying about his age to open up his options the same way that you are. But he's opening it too far. Yeah, Okay. I mean, I. I don't think what she's doing is right, but I can see her point. Like you have a generation gap between somebody. Well, I guess you're 31 now, so now you're only 11 years apart in age. So now it's not as big, billions of years old. What's the difference between 13 years? I can't tell whose side I'm on here. Yeah, and technically the age gap is just 11 years now. Now. Yeah, that's what I just said, but I wasn't listening to you, Brooke, cuz you're older. I have my cut off at age 35. So. So, Alexis, if you have anything to say, feel free to jump in. I'm so confused. Okay, my question is, when you kissed him, did you know he was 40 by then? I had suspicions. I mean, I Knew he wasn't 26, but that means you guys got along so well, even you were bending your rules a little, right? Exactly. I wasn't bending my rules. Both 11 years. No, you're right. You are right. But I'm just saying at some point you came to a conclusion. Almost. And you still. I think Jose's onto something. You both. Can you get over this? Is that. That's really the question? Is that the only problem? Because if you guys just get along great, just a big lie about who you are. Is that it? Well, there is the same that age is just a number. It shouldn't matter if the connection is real. And if that connection is true, we'd like to offer to send you two out on another day. And we would pay for it. It. That would be nice. I like when people pay for my dates. I do it. I'm down. Cheap old man. I see. Waiting for that senior discount. But Kendra, we will pay for it. It's up to you. Look, if we would have met organically and had the connection we had, then I might have been able to forgive that he's 42. But the lying is. It's just going to bother me. But your lies don't bother. That's right. No, my lie is fine, okay? Even she's laughing at her. They're different lies. You know, Chris, I'm sorry, man. Oh, that's too bad. And it was the best date of his entire life. Well, if that's it, guys, I'm gonna let her know the truth. That I'm not actually 42. I'm 46. What? What a 20 year lie. Oh my God. Is that why you wore the baseball hat backwards on our D? You're literally a dad. That's why you couldn't get over the fence. No wonder he knows who Tobey Maguire is. Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning the American west with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network. Hosted by me, writer and historian Dan Flores and brought to you by Velvet Buck, this podcast looks at a West available nowhere else. 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I was calling about the murder of my husband. It's a cold case. They've never found her. And it haunts me to this day. The murderer is still out there. Every week on Hell and Gone Murder line, I dig into a new case, bringing the skills I've learned as a journalist and private investigator to ask the questions no one else is asking. Police really didn't care to even try. She was still somebody's mother. She was still somebody's daughter. She was still somebody's sister. There's so many questions that we've never gotten any kind of answers for. If you have a case you'd like me to look into, call the Helen Gone murder line at 678-744-6145. Listen to Helen Gone Murderline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Man. I know this happens all the time on the dating apps now where people lie about their age, but I don't know if I'm ever gonna understand the thinking behind it, because at some point, the truth about your real age is gonna come out. Yeah, I mean, maybe it's like one of those things where you feel like you'll just be so connected by then it won't matter. Yeah, like that's what you hope, right? I don't think that that's ever true. A lie always matters, but. Yeah, because eventually you're gonna have to explain why your high school graduation photo has a watermark that says says Sears portrait studio 1986, and everyone's gonna be confused. I thought it was bold that he tried to play out that he was younger than her. Yeah, just like, hey, I'm 32. Or, like, I'm a few years older. He's three years younger than her. He's, like, overcompensated. 20 years difference. All I need to know is what filter he's using on his photos. I mean, I don't need it for personal use, I swear. It's just a curiosity. Exactly. That's gotta be it. Okay, so just to be clear, we're not saying saying don't lie. We're just saying lie smarter. Yeah. Okay. Can we agree to do that, Jeff? We're saying don't lie. Well, make it believable. Okay. Okay. 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