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Alexis
Hey, it's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. A brand new second date today. I'm laughing because we have a return. A return guest. She was definitely a surprise to us and maybe one of the most hated people we've ever had on the show. Disliked is a nicer way to say it, but maybe hated now. Yeah, just listen to the whole thing. And yesterday's awkward Tuesday about not a pregnancy surprise, but a BBL surprise definitely elicited a lot of comments. What do you see, Alexis? Yeah, Logan commented and said I knew it was going to be good when I saw the title. And then he replied to himself and I said had to reply after I heard the word bbl. Bunch of emojis. Yeah. And then we got omg. This was the most hilarious awkward call ever. It's hard to make me actually lol, but I lol on this one.
Aura
And then another.
Alexis
Another 10 out of 10. Hard watch, but worth it. A hard watch. Yeah.
Brooke
Awesome.
Alexis
Yeah. Hard listen for sure. Yeah. Well, thank you so much for being here. Definitely let us know how you feel about this one. Oh, yeah, Doozy. And it starts right now.
Jeffrey
Second date update. I think for most guys in the dating world, and this isn't universally true, but I think a lot of men are pretty lazy when it comes to dating. Really, you're just kind of coasting along, having fun, meeting, ghosting, whatever. Until you meet that one girl who changes everything. She blows the doors off and makes you think, I will do whatever it takes to date her. I will give up my hobbies. I will betray my own family. I will do it if she says yes.
Brooke
All right, be careful.
Jeffrey
And that.
Alexis
We're talk about two extremes right now, Jeff.
Brooke
Yeah, this is why.
Jeffrey
Welcome to the male mind.
Alexis
All right.
Jeffrey
And that happened recently to one of our listeners. His name is Isaac. Isaac, from your email, it sounds like you're ready to finally become a better man. Welcome to the show.
Isaac
Thank you.
Jeffrey
Is that true? Am I overextending with this? Or do you really feel like this girl is special?
Isaac
Yeah. Oh, no, she definitely was. I mean, it was definitely a unique experience at first for Me. She was. She was just amazing. She was a great girl.
Aura
Just.
Alexis
Yeah, okay.
Jeffrey
Okay.
Brooke
A little more. Seriously interesting.
Jeffrey
Yeah. So what's this lady's name?
Isaac
Her name's Aura.
Alexis
That's kind of fun. Where'd you meet her?
Isaac
We on a dating app. And she's really confident. That's really sexy to me, because I'm not the most confident. I'm kind of shy, kind of just kind of go with the flow. But I'm definitely confidence. Isn't. Isn't really, like, my strong point, so.
Alexis
Oh, interesting. I mean, it must be out of the norm for you then, to call a radio show for help. Yeah, I mean, that's a good step towards confidence.
Isaac
And, yeah, it took a lot for me to do this, but she's a hell of a lady.
Alexis
Okay.
Jeffrey
Big moves. Okay, so what did. I'm assuming you actually met up with her?
Isaac
Yeah, so we were going to meet at a bar, and so I got there first, and I was sitting at a booth kind of facing the door. And when she walked in, I mean, it was like. You know, when, like, fajitas come out in the restaurant, everybody just looks, oh.
Alexis
My God, what a compliment.
Jeffrey
That is really the perfect description, though.
Alexis
Because whenever they come out, no matter how many times you've seen them, you.
Jeffrey
Turn around and look, oh, I want some of that.
Brooke
Yeah, yeah.
Isaac
You could definitely say she had fajita energy.
Jeffrey
Okay, we're off to a really good start of the date. How did the rest of it go?
Isaac
She sat down, and immediately that confidence just started spilling out. She knew what she wanted to drink. She knew what she wanted to eat, so it was really cool.
Alexis
What was your connection with her like? Because it's a lot about, like, how amazing she was. But, like, what did you two bond over?
Isaac
I don't know. She was easy to talk to, which is another issue with me, is sometimes I don't really have the confidence to talk to girls. But she would ask questions, and she would ask about me, and I just felt comfortable.
Brooke
Dude, you know, they say opposites attract, and this sounds like the perfect example. She brings you outside of your shell a little bit. You know, you feel like this could compliment you in a relationship.
Jeffrey
Totally. So, like, what type of questions were you tossing back and forth between each other?
Isaac
We started having just basic conversations. Talk a little bit about family. But then it got a little, in my opinion, just a little weird. A little bit different conversation, because she ends up asking me how many other women that I'm dating at the time.
Alexis
Oh, is that a normal Question, Alexis. I honestly don't know. I feel like everyone knows people are talking to multiple people. Yeah, I don't think it's bad to ask if. I don't think it's bad to ask.
Jeffrey
I mean, if I was you, Isaac, I would take it as a compliment that she's like, oh, you must have lots of other ladies trying to lock you down. How many others did you answer that question?
Isaac
Well, I. I said it was two, but I. I lied a little bit. I mean, I'm just seeing her. I didn't. I want to seem like a loser.
Brooke
Why not say like, four? Like something a little more exciting.
Alexis
I don't know what they've out. Would it freak you out if he said, I'm only you? No, but what if you're debating between other people? Like, a guy tells you zero that you like equally, you might go for him versus a guy with two, you know?
Jeffrey
Okay, but at least the guy with two seems a little bit more wanted, more desired.
Alexis
Depends what she's into.
Jeffrey
You know, not totally inaccessible, though. But I want to know. Did you ask that question back to her?
Isaac
Yeah, I asked her what she says.
Jeffrey
Okay.
Brooke
Wow.
Isaac
She said she was dating a couple guys, too.
Alexis
Okay, so she just mirrored your response.
Brooke
She said what you said.
Isaac
All right. Then she took a shot and just, like, stared at me.
Alexis
A solo shot without you.
Jeffrey
Like, pounded some tequila?
Isaac
Yeah, she really did. And it was kind of was like, are you ready to step up?
Alexis
Shots on a first date. That's a different.
Jeffrey
This girl's really sounding like a personality.
Brooke
So, like, the confidence, even the description exudes this woman. Like, she sounds like she takes charge.
Alexis
I feel like that's almost scary.
Jeffrey
It could be guys like to be scared a little bit.
Brooke
Not really. How?
Jeffrey
Just a little.
Brooke
Maybe a little.
Jeffrey
How long did you two spend together at this bar?
Isaac
It was about 45 minutes. And then she says you had to.
Jeffrey
Go kind of short.
Brooke
Like, you guys just eat and she.
Alexis
Fit in a shot. She came over this. She asked for your number, she took a shot, and then she's like, what?
Brooke
It's really funny to think about.
Alexis
I mean, we're joking, but why do you think it was only 45 minutes when you were out to dinner?
Isaac
I don't know. Maybe she got what she wanted out of me. I don't know.
Jeffrey
Has there been any contact since that day?
Isaac
So it was about 10 days ago this happened. And maybe every day I sent her one, like, nice message.
Alexis
And is she responding every day? Wait, listen. If she's responding, it's Fine.
Brooke
Oh, that's true.
Isaac
She responded like to the first couple, but she pretty much stopped, so.
Alexis
But what's strange about this is like, you think a woman that's that direct would just tell you?
Brooke
Yeah, I just say I'm not interested.
Alexis
You know, like, why. Why would she ghost? Why wouldn't she?
Jeffrey
Too many tequila shots and now she needs time to recover before she musters up the strength to write a te.
Brooke
Or maybe she wants a guy to come after her.
Aura
She wants 10 texts.
Brooke
I didn't think of that. That's true.
Jeffrey
Okay, it's possible that she is waiting to be chased and that's exactly what we're going to do when we call her.
Isaac
Yeah, I mean, I feel like having the radio station call is a pretty bold move and that might say like, hey, he's the guy, he's the one.
Alexis
Okay, let's be bold.
Jeffrey
Let's do it with the 10. In fact, let's all slam some shots right before we come back.
Alexis
I think. I think you're already slurring when you said that.
Isaac
I.
Jeffrey
It's going to make this call real interesting.
Brooke
Coffee shops.
Jeffrey
Whatever it is, we'll do it with your second date update right after this. Hold on. Second date update? I think we may have just coined a new dating term on the show. Here did Big Fajita Energy. Cuz our listener Isaac said the lady he went out with had it in spades as she was turning heads walking into the bar that night like a big sizzling tray of fajitas.
Alexis
Yes, everybody's gotta look.
Jeffrey
Unfortunately for him though, the date only lasted 45 minutes and she took a shot right in the middle of it.
Alexis
But that it was not upsetting to him.
Jeffrey
No, that's just that bfe, Big Fajita Energy.
Alexis
That's right.
Jeffrey
She's carrying.
Brooke
I didn't ask, but how come she didn't buy him or he didn't buy himself a shot so they could cheers.
Alexis
And do a shot together? I don't think it was about him.
Jeffrey
No, it was all about her. And it's been 10 days since they last saw each other. He's hoping that this move of having us reach out to her will prove that he is different than all the other guys that she's ever seen before.
Brooke
Yeah, and he's outside of the box right now. He's not a very confident guy.
Alexis
When you think confidence, you think our show radio listener.
Jeffrey
Yeah, right, Isaac?
Isaac
Yep.
Alexis
I cry sometimes, but yeah, sometimes we all cry, man. Oh yeah, that's good. Is that what you said?
Jeffrey
I'm pretty sure he said try, but if we want to label him as a crier, I think that's okay.
Isaac
I'm trying. I'm not.
Alexis
Confident. Men cry, Jeff. Just.
Isaac
I'm a little nervous right now. Sorry.
Alexis
All right, you're good. Don't cry.
Jeffrey
Yeah, you need to channel. You need to channel your own big fajita energy before we get her on the phone.
Isaac
Yeah, you're right.
Alexis
Remember, you're the one that ordered the fajitas. What?
Isaac
That's right.
Alexis
I'm trying to give him confidence. Yeah, you know, like, take charge of the situation. Fajitas are coming to your table because you made it happen. Brooke's taking it too far.
Jeffrey
Brooke. She's going to ask for a tip when this is all done, so let's just.
Alexis
I do. I will never start a cool trend on the show, bro.
Isaac
No.
Jeffrey
Okay, let's just stop and we're going to call her. Hopefully she picks up. But I'm really excited to talk to Aura here.
Aura
Hello?
Jeffrey
Hey, is this Aura?
Aura
Yeah.
Jeffrey
Hey, Aura. Thanks for picking up the phone. We're actually. We're a radio show. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.
Brooke
Good morning.
Jeffrey
How you doing today?
Aura
Yeah. Oh, my God, you guys, again? Seriously.
Brooke
Again, Again? Have we ever called an Aura.
Aura
Wait, you gotta be kidding me. What do you want now?
Alexis
Wait, do you know us? I'm so sorry.
Aura
Yeah, you guys called me like, four months ago. You called me for some, like, second date jail bait.
Alexis
Jail bait? That is not the segment.
Jeffrey
It's actually a much better segment.
Alexis
Definitely not the segment. Ok, wait, wait. We've never. We did not talk to an aura four months ago.
Brooke
I don't remember.
Alexis
I mean, what am I saying? I usually forget people's names from the first part of this to the second.
Jeffrey
Yeah. So this is called Second Date Update, by the way.
Aura
Okay, whatever. But, like, your guy wanted to date me, but I was dating a lot of people at the time.
Alexis
That sounds like everybody. Yeah, it could be anybody. Is it.
Jeffrey
Oh, wait a second.
Alexis
What?
Jeffrey
Oh, my God. Okay, you remember, were you the one who. You were like, dating a bunch of people and you wanted our listener to be the third guy in your list of situationships?
Alexis
She had, like, a roster.
Jeffrey
Yeah, There was, like, other guys and she was like, you could be my third if you want to remember that.
Aura
Wait, like your show? Seriously? Like, nothing better to do than call me.
Brooke
This is what our job is to do. We're going to trouble if we don't do this.
Alexis
Kind of like an insult, right?
Jeffrey
There. And the short answer to that is, no, we don't. The longer answer is we're actually doing this to help out a listener. Because the dating world is tough right now, and it can be really confusing for somebody, you know, when you feel a connection.
Aura
No, I get it. I get it. I already heard the spiel. But when you called me the first time. So, like, who is it now? Who's the guy?
Alexis
Good question.
Jeffrey
Okay, well, there's a new one named Isaac.
Aura
Oh, God.
Alexis
What? What was wrong with Isaac? Isaac felt like he was special, like he did. You asked him questions. You were engaged. You seem interested.
Jeffrey
Good job, Brooke.
Alexis
That's true.
Jeffrey
Get super specific with it there, Brooke.
Brooke
You took a shot. Remember the shot you took?
Aura
Can we just, like, skip to the part where you tell me he's on the phone listening? Like, I'll just talk to him.
Jeffrey
Okay.
Brooke
Clearly.
Isaac
Okay.
Jeffrey
You've definitely done this with us before.
Alexis
I don't know. Or. She's gonna take Jeffrey's job soon.
Jeffrey
Yeah, she's pretty good. Well. Well, since, you know. Hey, Isaac, you're up, bud. So good luck.
Alexis
Yeah, don't feel like we set you up for success right there.
Jeffrey
Okay, Go ahead, Isaac. Talk to her.
Isaac
Hi, Aura.
Aura
Isaac, this was a really, really bad move.
Alexis
What?
Brooke
Really?
Aura
It was these radio people. They don't know what the hell they're doing. You never should have called them.
Alexis
What are you talking about? We get successful second dates sometimes.
Jeffrey
Your voice is extremely high when you said.
Isaac
I'm sorry. I don't.
Aura
But don't apologize. Learn your lesson. Delete their numbers. They're. They're pests. Like, leeching off of our lives.
Alexis
We're not leeching off your lives. We're just trying to help Isaac out because he liked you.
Jeffrey
Yeah, by attaching ourselves to his story and taking credit.
Alexis
Well, you wouldn't call him back. Like, what is a guy supposed to do?
Aura
Leeching off of our lives?
Alexis
There's no r. You didn't call him back. You weren't contacting him.
Isaac
You're calling me twice.
Alexis
Okay, well, I don't know how to tell you this, but you weren't that rememberable. We didn't remember you.
Jeffrey
Rememberable is a word.
Alexis
Whatever.
Aura
Yeah, I don't. I don't mind that. Can you tell the Karen to stop talking?
Alexis
Oh, I'm the Karen?
Jeffrey
We're just gonna recluse ourselves because I think we're making it worse. Why don't you just talk directly to her?
Isaac
All right, well, can I just ask them? Did you say that they already Called you before, like about, like a different guy.
Brooke
Multiple.
Aura
It sounds like that's my business. And the time that we spent together, I. I would call you if it was good.
Alexis
Whoa. Oh.
Jeffrey
But you.
Isaac
You didn't say why it wasn't good.
Aura
I mean, first of all, you've been texting me good morning every day at 8am oh.
Isaac
How is that a bad thing? Like, I'm just being nice. It's nothing bad about that.
Aura
Well, think about it.
Alexis
That's it.
Brooke
Did you say that I need to use that line?
Jeffrey
Think about it. What are you doing?
Isaac
I mean, that. That's when I wake up and I just wanted to say something nice.
Brooke
He's thinking of you first thing.
Aura
You know who says things like that though? Non alphas.
Brooke
Oh, she's one of those.
Jeffrey
It is kind of true.
Isaac
I mean, I'm. I'm an Alpha.
Jeffrey
I felt that.
Alexis
Yeah.
Jeffrey
Okay.
Aura
You can keep looking in the mirror and telling yourself that and like, maybe someday your fairy godmother will appear with a magic wand and make you into a real life Alpha. La la la la la.
Alexis
That was so condescending.
Jeffrey
It's kind of a good analogy.
Alexis
I feel like since you're an alpha aura, don't you want someone who's not? Like two alphas together? All you end up doing is fighting.
Aura
Oh, I need a real man. I need a real man.
Alexis
What doesn't make him a real man? Because he said good morning.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Isaac
Were you mad also by saying goodnight too?
Aura
Can you hang up on him or me? Okay, you see how this is going?
Alexis
Okay, so wait. But Jeffrey has to ask the question. He's got ask a question before you hang up because he is alpha. Okay.
Jeffrey
That was extremely condescending. For no reason.
Alexis
It's worth the thought of all of this, like, stereotypical male stuff that bothers me. Yeah, sorry, continue.
Jeffrey
Normally, I would ask if you two would go out on another date, but it sounds like you're already hitting it off, so. Well, I don't want to stop the chemistry any more than it's already.
Aura
Can you. I don't. I don't care. Guys, can you do me a favor? Any more of your simp friends I accidentally match with, do not call me. Okay, you know why.
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Brooke
All right, do we have a do not call list?
Jeffrey
All right. Okay. She hung up.
Alexis
She was terrible. Isaac.
Isaac
I don't know about you guys, I. I kind of liked it.
Brooke
He's one of those guys, he likes getting beat down a little.
Jeffrey
Pushed around a little bit. Yeah.
Alexis
Okay, not even a little. That was his first revelation.
Brooke
He wants to be emasculated.
Jeffrey
Yeah, Brooke, make his fantasies come true. Tell him something horrible about himself.
Alexis
I was gonna tell him that he deserved more, but I guess he doesn't.
Isaac
Want to hear that I deserve more. Aura. That's what I deserve.
Alexis
Keep texting. I'm sure you'll get it back from her.
Isaac
Yeah.
Jeffrey
All right, man. Good luck. Brook and Jeffrey in the morning.
Brooke
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Alexis
It's a good idea. Let's blame him.
Jeffrey
Yeah, I like that.
Alexis
We don't blame Boyd enough.
Jeffrey
No, we don't.
Isaac
No.
Jeffrey
You know what? I think we need some type of overly confident woman to sit down and have a word with our producer. Isn't that right, Brooke?
Alexis
Oh, yeah. I'll go yell at him.
Jeffrey
Thank you.
Alexis
No problem. He's not very scared of me is the only problem.
Jeffrey
You gotta really bring the intensity when you have that meeting.
Alexis
He usually laughs and then makes fun of me afterwards.
Jeffrey
That's okay.
Alexis
Dang it.
Jeffrey
With Isaac, I don't know if he's fully ready to give up on this yet or not. My guess is he's definitely going to be sending her a few more texts though.
Alexis
Okay, but listen. No, I'm not feeling sorry for him when it doesn't work out. No, not anymore. Yes, exactly. He's asking for it. Yeah, but he likes that. I know.
Jeffrey
You know?
Alexis
I know.
Jeffrey
He's probably texting her right now being like, oh my God, when you called me a simp over the radio, I loved.
Brooke
Yeah, seriously, take my money too.
Jeffrey
And you know what? That could be you if there's someone in your life who's not calling you back. As long as her name isn't Aura, please. We will go to bat for you and as always, find our entire library of second date updates wherever you get your podcasts, Apple, Spotify, YouTube and more. It's at Brooke and Jennifer Jeffrey.
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Date: September 24, 2025
Episode Theme:
This episode of “Second Date Update” dives into the story of Isaac, a self-described shy guy who seeks the team’s help after being ghosted by Aura—a woman whose “Big Fajita Energy” left a big impression. Listeners are treated to an honest, humorous, and at times cringe-worthy exploration of mismatched expectations, confidence gaps, and what happens when modern dating meets radio mediators.
Isaac experienced an energizing first date with Aura, a woman he met on a dating app who captivated him with her confidence and presence. After a brief but memorable evening, Isaac found himself ghosted and turned to Brooke, Jeffrey, Alexis, and the team for answers and, hopefully, a second chance. The episode spotlights themes of self-assurance, expectations, and the pitfalls of using grand gestures (like a radio call-in) to win someone back.
Isaac’s instant attraction:
“You know when fajitas come out at the restaurant? Everybody just looks... you could definitely say she had fajita energy.”
—Isaac [06:04–06:28]
Aura’s withering take on the radio intervention:
“Isaac, this was a really, really bad move. These radio people... you never should have called them.”
—Aura [15:23–15:36]
Aura’s “not-an-alpha” critique:
“You know who says things like that though? Non alphas.”
—Aura [17:23]
“Maybe someday your fairy godmother will appear... and make you into a real life Alpha. La la la!”
—Aura [17:45]
Isaac’s surprising reaction:
“I don’t know about you guys, I kind of liked it.”
—Isaac [19:23]
This episode is classic “Second Date Update”—awkward, revealing, and packed with larger-than-life personalities. The dynamic between Aura’s brashness and Isaac’s earnestness provides plenty of laughs, but also underscores how authenticity and expectations can lead to disappointment (or, weirdly, second guesses about what we really want). The memorable “Big Fajita Energy” descriptor is likely to become a running joke among listeners.
Perfect for: Listeners who love brutally honest dating stories, spirited banter, and over-the-top romantic mismatches.