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Alexis
Oh, oh, oh. O'Reilly Auto Parts.
Brooke
Hey, you found it. The home of the second date update. It is Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. And thanks for being here on the podcast. Yes, you know, I love all the comments we've been getting from all over the world, and I think this one really sums up what these second dates are. Nicola Huber in Brazil wrote, the call just gets worse and worse.
Alexis
Oh.
Listener
It'S true, it does. It's like a guilty pleasure listening, though.
Brooke
You know, Seriously, we love when you comment. We love when you subscribe even more. So please do it. And hey, just sit back and enjoy the second date update. It's brand new and it starts right now.
Jeff
Second Date update. Alexis, how do you feel about a guy bringing you a gift on a first date? Do you like a guy to have a present or do you require it?
Listener
Well, I was gonna say it depends on what it is. You know, like I require something, but.
Brooke
I should have a present.
Listener
But like, money's preferred.
Jeff
Don't show up empty, okay? Just cash exchange.
Brooke
That takes a date to a different type of relationship.
Jeff
Whatever Alexis is into, let her have it, okay, bro?
Alexis
It's a side business. That's her thing.
Jeff
But I only ask because one of our listeners says he showed up to his first date with a special surprise for his lady and it wasn't your stereotypical flowers with a box of plan B.
Alexis
That should not be it.
Brooke
That's considerate. I think that plan B is thoughtful.
Listener
I mean, it'll come in handy at some point.
Jeff
Guys, Alexis's mom didn't use it and she came about. But you know what?
Alexis
Where's the romance?
Listener
That is romantic.
Brooke
That speed prepared is hot.
Jeff
Okay, we're gonna get to the gift specifically in a second, but first, Kyle is the one who emailed us, so welcome to the show, man.
Kyle
Hey, guys.
Jeff
How you doing?
Brooke
Oh, man. God. We're giving you all sorts of ideas for your next date, Kyle.
Alexis
I know your gift, Kyle. Like, I'm scared.
Brooke
I want to know.
Jeff
We do. But first, tell us about this lucky lady that you met. Where did you meet her?
Kyle
So we met online on, you know, one of the apps.
Sarah
Okay.
Brooke
Okay.
Kyle
And we clicked. I thought she's really hot, and I hope she. I think she liked me.
Brooke
All right, what's her name, by the way?
Jeff
Did you even catch that in the profile or who care?
Alexis
Yeah, stop.
Kyle
Her name is Sarah.
Brooke
Sarah. Okay, but what made. I mean, there's a lot of hot girls on the dating apps. Like, what made her stand out so much that you wanted to bring her a surprise gift match back with him?
Jeff
What can.
Brooke
It's that easy? Is that right?
Kyle
Well, you know, it is, like a visual medium, so. I mean, she was really pretty. I'll just say it. She was really pretty.
Brooke
You wanted to buy her affection. I see.
Jeff
I don't know. Is that how it was that you're making it seem, like, weird?
Brooke
I just asked him why she stood out. Nobody had an answer. Besides hot.
Jeff
Well, that's what dating is, Brooke.
Brooke
I want more. I want the romance part.
Jeff
Brooke, just go watch a 90s movie and get your jollies off there.
Alexis
Brooke wants them to, like, bump carts at the grocery store and then, like, have a whole.
Brooke
I just want them to have. Most people have a connection. That's all I'm saying. Besides eating?
Jeff
Not in the modern dating world. No, they don't.
Brooke
That's not true. We talked to so many. Okay, we are getting off track. I'm not gonn about this anymore.
Jeff
Kyle, she's making sense. I apologize. She has no idea how modern dating works.
Brooke
So tell us, how.
Jeff
How did you. How did you and Sarah bond?
Kyle
Well, so we started talking about TV shows.
Brooke
Okay.
Kyle
And I asked her what. What her favorite show was, and she said she didn't own a tv.
Brooke
Whoa.
Jeff
Whoa.
Alexis
That's wild.
Brooke
I went through a phase like that.
Alexis
No, I get it. No cable.
Kyle
Okay?
Alexis
We know TV.
Brooke
Yeah, but, you know, the 1880s were a crazy time.
Jeff
I know.
Alexis
It's just, like, drive a car with my feet, too.
Brooke
No, honestly, like, you're a single woman. You're living by yourself. Like, you just watch Your shows on your laptop. You don't need the tv? Is that what it is?
Kyle
Well, her roommate had the TV and she moved out, and so she just never got another one.
Alexis
Makes even more sense.
Jeff
Okay.
Alexis
She's using her laptop.
Brooke
Yeah. Okay, so that doesn't sound like a lot of bonding if you were talking about your favorite TV shows and she doesn't own a tv.
Alexis
That's true.
Kyle
It was our first conversation, you know. So on a whim, I bought her a tv.
Brooke
Whoa, whoa, whoa. You awkwardly carry it into a restaurant?
Kyle
I put it in my car.
Jeff
I see.
Listener
Oh, my God.
Alexis
For the record, TVs are not as expensive as they used to be. Yeah, but I want people TVs.
Brooke
How many inches?
Kyle
43 inches.
Alexis
It's not even big.
Kyle
It was a nice TV. It had Roku.
Jeff
Oh, wow. Smart TV.
Listener
What a nice time.
Brooke
Something like something my parents would say.
Jeff
All right. And you said it was in the trunk of your car?
Kyle
Yeah. Put it in my trunk. So I took it to the date and I told her, hey, I've got a surprise for you.
Alexis
What?
Listener
There's no way she was expecting that.
Alexis
That is wild. You did it in front of her.
Brooke
Wait, are we at the beginning of the date when you gave it to her, or. At the end, I pulled up and.
Kyle
I showed her the tv.
Jeff
That's amazing.
Alexis
That is so cool. We've never heard a TV gift on the first date.
Jeff
Although I have heard of guys being like, hey, I have a surprise for you in the trunk of my car. And then the store usually goes a totally different route.
Brooke
It's usually a shovel and some duct tape. Yeah, but wait, what was her reaction?
Kyle
Well, she was happy. She screamed. She was like, oh, this is amazing.
Jeff
Wow.
Alexis
Way to set the tone.
Jeff
I can.
Listener
Because then, you know, if she actually likes you. But that's okay, you know, you could.
Alexis
Have also segued and been like, we could either go back and try it out, Netflix and chill, or we can continue our date.
Kyle
Well, I actually installed it for her, too.
Brooke
So you did go back to her place?
Jeff
Really?
Brooke
So, wait, did you guys go to dinner at all? Or did you. Was the TV the whole day?
Alexis
At this point, I'm wondering.
Kyle
Yeah, we had dinner.
Brooke
Oh, you did?
Jeff
Okay.
Alexis
Oh, God, that dinner. She must have been, like, so excited to go home and try out the new tv.
Listener
I don't think girls are like that about tvs, but, you know, there's such TV nerds.
Alexis
You don't think she was excited? You said she was.
Jeff
I mean, with the Roku. Probably.
Listener
Yeah.
Jeff
How did it go?
Brooke
I can't get over that.
Kyle
So, yeah, I brought it up to her apartment, I hung it up on the wall and then, you know, we watched TV and I spent the night on the couch and she went to her room. Nothing happened.
Jeff
But.
Brooke
Okay, she invited you to spend the night. Right.
Kyle
We were just watching TV and she fell asleep. She went to go sleep in her bed.
Jeff
Okay. She must have been.
Alexis
Just took the couch on and you.
Brooke
Know, but that's like a good comfort level. Like you meet somebody on a first date and you allow them not only to come to your house, but to stay the night. That's good. It's good. That's a good sign that she trusts you.
Jeff
So what's happened since then?
Kyle
Well, so we hung out one other time, but it was like kind of short and I don't know, I was just getting like a weird vibe from her.
Jeff
Please tell me you did not ask for the TV back after this all happened. We've definitely had guys on the show who've been hurt and they've asked for like, oh, well, now I want half of my bill back because she doesn't want to see me anymore.
Kyle
No, no, I'm not that petty.
Brooke
I was thinking she'd say, oh, I had a computer, but my roommate took it.
Alexis
Oh, you know, she wants more.
Jeff
Yeah, I think she's.
Listener
You open the world of Netflix and chill for her Now I think she's busy.
Alexis
She's catching up.
Listener
She's gotta invite people over or she's.
Brooke
Just chilling by herself.
Listener
Yeah, true. Yeah.
Jeff
Well, we'll find out when we call her and see if she even picks up and takes a break from watching Murders in the apartment or whatever in the building. Murders in the. I didn't watch it, so. But we'll find out what she's doing. That should be the sequel. But for now we're focused on our second date update. When we come back right after this second date update. I think all of us have imagined going on to a giant game show one day, winning and taking home an awesome prize like a 43 inch smart TV with Roku. But a girl named Sarah didn't have to do all that. She just had to go on one date with our listener Kyle, who gifted her a brand new flat screen just.
Brooke
Because she mentioned she didn't have.
Listener
She showed up. It wasn't even at the end.
Jeff
Yeah, yeah, it's all cuz her roommate had taken her last one when she moved out. But after inside stalling it for her and watching it together, she's been acting a little bit weird. Those are Kyle's words and he doesn't.
Brooke
Know why they hung out a second time, but apparently it was so short that there's not even a description of the hangout. Yeah, it was like it was that bad.
Jeff
I don't know what the reasoning is, but we're about to call Sarah here in a second. But Brooke, what are you thinking? What are your thoughts before we reach out to Sarah?
Brooke
I don't know, maybe it was just too much too quick because she's like. She didn't ask for the TV even though she was excited about it.
Alexis
I didn't think of that ask. It's different.
Jeff
Too big of a TV is what Brooks said. He should have gone with like a 30 inch. Maybe one that had a VHS player in it or something.
Alexis
It wasn't even a 4K.
Jeff
But, Kyle, we're going to try our best to do this for you, okay?
Sarah
All right.
Kyle
I really appreciate it.
Jeff
Yeah, yeah.
Brooke
If she doesn't agree to another date, are you going to be regretful about the TV gift or do you have.
Alexis
A backup gift just in case?
Kyle
That's a good idea. Do you guys have any free giveaways or anything like that?
Brooke
Yeah, we're going to give you a gift card at the end of this.
Jeff
There you go.
Alexis
Maybe that'll add to it.
Jeff
And if you want to thank us by giving us a TV in return, that's up to you. We're not going to pressure you, but most guests do give us something as a thank you gift.
Brooke
I have four TVs in my trunk right now just from the calls last week.
Jeff
Not nice ones, or else you would have installed them in your house. But still, whatever it is, it's up to you. Let's call Sarah and see if she picks up. Here we go.
Sarah
Hello?
Jeff
Hey, is this Sarah?
Sarah
Yeah. My answer's calling.
Jeff
Yes, you may. We're a show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.
Brooke
Not a TV show, a radio show.
Sarah
Who?
Brooke
She's really into TV now. Jeff.
Jeff
Yeah, We're Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning. I'm Jeff.
Sarah
Sorry, who?
Jeff
Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning. My name is Jeff. That's the fourth time I've said it.
Brooke
She's not gonna know. You don't know we're a morning radio show.
Jeff
Hey, hold on.
Alexis
You want to know the name of our show?
Brooke
Because I have.
Sarah
Can I help you?
Alexis
Sorry.
Jeff
You hopefully can help us because we are doing a segment called A Second Date Update and trying to get some answers for one of our listeners. That you met up with the other night for a hot date. Two hot dates.
Sarah
I've had several dates. I don't know who you're talking about.
Jeff
Oh.
Brooke
Oh, I think you'll remember once we say his name.
Jeff
Yeah, Kyle.
Brooke
Oh, God, the TV guy.
Alexis
Why is he on?
Jeff
Don't say that.
Sarah
Why?
Brooke
Why? Because he likes you and he said that you're super pretty.
Jeff
Why is your reaction that way?
Sarah
Because.
Brooke
Oh, my gosh, dude, that sounds like you have a story and I am dying.
Jeff
Yeah. Would you mind.
Alexis
Sound like it.
Jeff
Would you mind sharing a little bit? Because Kyle is totally confused. He doesn't know why there hasn't been another hangout.
Sarah
Is he really?
Jeff
Yeah.
Brooke
Well, he knows the last time you saw him, it didn't go well.
Sarah
He must be truly obtuse. Oh, my gosh. Yes.
Brooke
He's not a cute one.
Jeff
Brooke, could you explain a little bit because we're totally in the dark?
Sarah
Okay. Have y'all ever had somebody buy you a TV on a first date?
Brooke
No.
Alexis
No.
Jeff
Just like six or seven times, but, yeah.
Alexis
Yeah, just everyone.
Jeff
Not one with Roku.
Brooke
He thought you were excited about that. Were you not?
Sarah
I mean, it was thoughtful, but I didn't know that it was getting ready to come with all these things. Okay, he's putting it up on the wall.
Brooke
Yeah.
Kyle
Okay.
Sarah
If you call. You want the story, you're about to get the story.
Jeff
Okay.
Brooke
I'm sitting back at my seat.
Jeff
We're starting with. He's putting the TV up on your wall. Yes.
Sarah
And while he's installing and everything, he's like, I'm really into sports. And I'm like, oh, okay, great. And everything. That's cool. Yeah. Okay, so after it's all set up, he kicks off his shoes and turns on the game.
Brooke
The game?
Jeff
What game?
Sarah
Yeah, he turns on a basketball game.
Brooke
Did he ask you if you wanted to watch it with him?
Sarah
No. No, no, no.
Brooke
That's bold.
Kyle
Yeah.
Sarah
And so he's just watching the basketball game, and then he says, hey, can you get some snacks for us?
Alexis
No, he did not. Well, now, that is offensive.
Jeff
Maybe the full experience of what it's like to watch. He's doing the test run for you.
Alexis
He should be giving her the snacks then and putting her on.
Listener
But he should just.
Brooke
He just feels comfortable with you. He feels like he's hanging out. He's trying to bond after one day.
Alexis
Yeah.
Jeff
Yeah.
Brooke
How did he say the night then? Because he said he slept on your couch, Right?
Sarah
Yeah. Okay, so he's so geeked up. He was like, man, the resolution, like the picture. Oh, this was a perfect place on the wall. And he's still watching the game and everything. It's a late night game. And so I was like, well, I'm going to bed.
Brooke
Wait, you didn't kick him out? No.
Alexis
That's why you went to bed?
Jeff
Well, maybe that's like the insinuation, like, hey, I gotta time to, you know, scary up.
Alexis
Why don't you hop with me?
Brooke
I don't think that. I think it meant like, you leave.
Listener
Maybe you just take the TV with you at this point.
Jeff
He didn't get the hint?
Sarah
No, he did not get the hint.
Jeff
Oh, God.
Sarah
And I wake up, he's gotten so comfortable. He done went to the kitchen, made him a bowl of cereal and is watching a pickleball tournament.
Brooke
At least he's independent. Why did you hang out with him again?
Jeff
Oh, my God. Yeah, he said there was a second hangout. That was what he said.
Sarah
Well, I guess the only time that I saw him was later on in the day when I got home from work.
Brooke
He was still there.
Sarah
He stayed in my apartment all day.
Brooke
What? He was still there.
Kyle
Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on. Can I jump in here?
Brooke
I think it'd probably be a good time.
Kyle
Can I just say something?
Jeff
Okay.
Kyle
Can I just say something?
Jeff
Yeah. So, Sarah, you should probably know that that's Kyle. He's been waiting on the other line wanting to talk to you.
Sarah
Oh, my gosh.
Jeff
Well, actually he's probably in your apartment right now calling from your couch in front of the tv, but yeah.
Sarah
Are you kidd. Kidding me? He's on the. This is going way too far.
Jeff
Yeah, okay, hold on. He's installed your TV up on the wall for you, so just let's give him a chance to explain himself.
Brooke
I wouldn't do that.
Jeff
He bought the TV and installed it.
Brooke
That's exactly the problem with the gifts. Actually, she owes him nothing.
Listener
But.
Brooke
But he might be a good guy. That you should hear out.
Jeff
That's totally different than what I said.
Kyle
Yeah, I got. I got something to say. All right, so I brought you dinner and I you to join me. And I'm the bad guy? Is that so bad?
Sarah
You brought pizza knowing I don't eat that? So no, you didn't consider me at all. And the fact that you're in my house all day after I told you I'm going to bed. I got to go to work.
Kyle
You don't watch tv, don't eat, and.
Sarah
I'm going to set it outside.
Jeff
Wait, wait. Before this blows up. Any further and you guys arguing about he said, she said. What is the pizza about?
Brooke
Yeah, I thought you guys went to dinner. I didn't think that you just brought pizza to her house.
Sarah
No, this is when he was still at my house.
Jeff
Okay, so this is the second night after you guys hung out the first time. And he brought dinner to till it.
Alexis
Was evening the next day.
Jeff
What a romantic.
Brooke
Jeffrey's being sarcastic. Dude, it's like an unwritten rule. If you stay the night at somebody's house, you leave in the morning when they leave.
Jeff
Okay, but this was the second night, so what's the rule about the second night?
Kyle
Yeah, the rule is you bring pizza.
Jeff
That's a good man.
Sarah
The rule is that you leave your g o. When I said I gotta go to bed.
Brooke
Yeah.
Kyle
Guys, is it just me or does she. She sounds ungrateful, right? I mean, I bought her a tv.
Jeff
I mean, am I crazy?
Brooke
Yeah.
Jeff
I have not heard a thank you one time from her.
Brooke
That's true.
Kyle
I haven't heard a thank you.
Brooke
I haven't heard she already thanked you when you gave it to her.
Kyle
She's not thanking me now. She's just complaining that I'm watching sports. That's what you do with a T.
Sarah
Okay, Kyle, I need you to understand this. It's not your house. So I'm gonna need you to come and get this tv. All right? If you want it, I'm putting it outside, but I am done with this.
Jeff
Oh, somebody's inviting you over, I think she said.
Kyle
Yeah, that sounds like an invite. Do you want pepperoni? You want cheese?
Jeff
And we are going to provide the gift card for that pizza on the corner.
Sarah
It will be on the corner. He will not have any access to my apartment.
Brooke
Okay, so this is not as romantic.
Listener
Maybe text the address of the corner in case one of us wants to swoop by.
Brooke
Oh, Alexis is in the market for us.
Kyle
It's a nice tv. There you go. So don't put like a free sign on or anything. I want to know when it's out there. I'm gonna come by and I'm gonna get it.
Alexis
I'm gonna be like at least a hundred dollar bill lying on the ground.
Brooke
Oh, what?
Jeff
That sounds like a no. I'm sorry, Kyle, but I guess we learned a lesson. Never give a woman a gift on a first date.
Kyle
Ever.
Alexis
No, that's just be normal.
Brooke
You know, what if there's no middle ground? Jeffree, let's go with that.
Jeff
Yes. Finally we agree on something. It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.
Brooke
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Jeff
We're getting too many no's lately, Brooke. Not getting enough yeses. And it's starting to make me lose faith in love.
Brooke
Oh, no, Jeff.
Jeff
Somebody here isn't doing their job is all I'm saying.
Brooke
It's the guy. He could have just gone home that night and he would have had another date. It is not my fault.
Jeff
Okay, fair. But, Brooke, is there any way that maybe next time we get a guy on the phone who spends 48 straight hours at a girl's place in his underwear watching nothing but sports? Can you at least try to spin it into a romantic thing? Just try.
Brooke
It sounds like marriage is that good.
Jeff
I'm just saying you're leaving me on my island, doing all the heavy lifting, standing up for our listeners. You're throwing them right under the bus.
Brooke
I started by saying it was good that she let him stay because it obviously meant she trusted him. I didn't know that. It obviously meant that he didn't get the messages.
Jeff
Okay, you're still on the pessimistic train. We need you to hop back onto the optimism train and stand up for our listeners. Right or wrong.
Brooke
Oh, I have a headache.
Jeff
We'll toss some Advil at you. Email the show if you have a very easy, simple dating life that we could fix without having to stand up for you.
Listener
I like the messy ones.
Jeff
Those ones are kind of fun. Email the show. We'll call them. That person who's not calling you back, it's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Brooke
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Podcast Summary: Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update – Boob Tube Experiment
Podcast Information:
The episode kicks off with Brooke introducing the "Second Date Update" segment, a feature where listeners share their dating experiences, particularly focusing on why a second date didn’t materialize. The hosts express their enthusiasm for listener engagement, highlighting a comment from Nicola Huber in Brazil:
“The call just gets worse and worse.” ([01:25])
Brooke emphasizes the show's aim to provide entertaining and insightful analyses of real-life dating scenarios.
Brooke and Jeff delve into the topic of bringing gifts on first dates, discussing whether it's a thoughtful gesture or an overstep. Alexis contributes by questioning the necessity of such gifts:
“Oh, my God.” ([01:30])
The conversation explores different perspectives on gift-giving, with Brooke asserting the importance of showing thoughtfulness:
“That takes a date to a different type of relationship.” ([02:05])
However, Jeff cautions against excessive gifting, suggesting a balance:
“Don’t show up empty, okay? Just cash exchange.” ([02:01])
The spotlight shifts to Kyle, a listener who emailed the show about his unique approach to impressing his date, Sarah. Kyle recounts how he met Sarah online and decided to make a memorable first impression by purchasing and gifting her a 43-inch Smart TV with Roku:
“I bought her a TV.” ([05:03])
Brooke expresses surprise and curiosity about Kyle's ambitious gesture:
“Whoa, whoa, whoa.” ([02:23])
Kyle explains his motivation, believing the gift would help them bond over shared interests, particularly TV shows. He details the process of installing the TV at Sarah's apartment, showcasing his commitment:
“I put it in my trunk. So I took it to the date and I told her, hey, I've got a surprise for you.” ([05:08])
In an unprecedented move, Brooke and Jeff contact Sarah to gain her side of the story. Sarah reveals that while the initial reaction was positive, the situation quickly became uncomfortable:
“He turned on a basketball game, and then he says, hey, can you get some snacks for us?” ([12:06])
Sarah felt overwhelmed by Kyle's continual presence and the massive gift, which she hadn't anticipated. She elaborates on how Kyle's actions, though well-intentioned, crossed personal boundaries:
“I'm putting it outside, but I am done with this.” ([16:58])
Her frustration underscores the delicate balance between being generous and respecting personal space in nascent relationships.
Brooke and Jeff dissect the situation, highlighting the potential pitfalls of grand gestures on first dates. Brooke suggests that while Kyle's intentions were good, the execution may have been misguided:
“That's exactly the problem with the gifts. Actually, she owes him nothing.” ([15:02])
Jeff emphasizes the importance of moderation:
“Never give a woman a gift on a first date.” ([17:46])
They discuss how Kyle's excessive gifting perhaps signaled desperation or a lack of understanding of Sarah's comfort levels, leading to her withdrawal from pursuing a second date.
Concluding the episode, Brooke and Jeff offer listeners actionable advice on handling first date interactions:
Be Thoughtful, Not Overwhelming: Small, meaningful gestures can make a positive impression without crossing boundaries.
“Just cash exchange.” ([02:01])
Respect Personal Space: Recognize and honor your date's comfort levels and personal boundaries.
“That's a good comfort level.” ([07:14])
Communicate Clearly: Ensure that your actions align with verbal communication to avoid misunderstandings.
“He didn't ask you if you wanted to watch it with him?” ([12:13])
Brooke and Jeff wrap up by reflecting on Kyle's experience, emphasizing the unpredictability of modern dating dynamics and the importance of balancing generosity with respect.
“It is not my fault.” ([18:10])
"Second Date Update: Boob Tube Experiment" offers a compelling exploration of the complexities surrounding first date gestures. Through Kyle and Sarah's story, Brooke and Jeff illuminate the fine line between thoughtful generosity and overwhelming behavior, providing listeners with valuable insights into fostering healthy and respectful relationships.
For more engaging discussions and relationship advice, tune into the full hour-long episodes of Brooke and Jeffrey available on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, and Spotify.