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A
Smart.
B
It's a little on the immoral side. Just a tad, though. Not enough. Not enough. Not. No. Okay. Not enough. I would do it. Yeah. But before we get to it, comments? We love to feature yours.
C
Yeah.
B
Heavenly said my town was out of Internet for over 12 hours, and the only thing I wanted to do was listen to Yalls podcast. And it did not disappoint.
A
Right.
B
It's just a 12 hour wait. What do you do for 12 hours Internet, Alexis? I don't know. Yeah, I have to sleep the whole time, I guess.
A
I don't know what I do. Yeah.
B
All right. Your brand new second date starts right now.
A
Second date update. It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. And if you didn't know, you can always hear our second date updates on Apple, Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts. Millions of people download them a month.
B
Yeah, I like this. It's just the second date commercial happening, right?
A
That's right. Brook says you should download it, too, or else you don't want to know.
B
What the or else or else is. You may enjoy it.
A
I wouldn't.
B
Whatever it is, I will kiss you.
A
It's in your best interest not to define Brooke, but we do have a listener on the phone right now who's asked us for a second date, and I didn't even get to read his email ahead of time, so I don't know much about it other than his name is Rick, and hopefully I'm pronouncing that right. Rick. Is it Rick? Am I saying that right?
C
Of course. Yep. I think it's the only way to pronounce it.
B
I feel like he's not emphasizing the C enough in your name.
A
Yeah, and it could be with a silent R, so we don't know. But let's get right into your date. Tell us about the woman you met. What's her name?
C
So I met a girl named Brenda. I was trying to Find. Just find a way to meet people. And my friend told me to join a running club, so I joined this running club.
B
Yeah, I've heard a lot of people doing that.
A
I haven't.
B
Yeah, it was really popular for summer. Yeah.
A
Yeah. Now it's not anymore.
B
I'm just saying late to the trend. I think it's a fun. It's a. I mean, it's one a good way to get healthy. So you're gonna get some positive out of it and then usually people meet up for beers afterwards. Yeah, you meet at brewery to start and then end there. Yeah.
A
Did that happen on your date, Rick?
C
No, there was no drinking at running club.
B
Oh.
A
Oh, that's like a serious one.
B
Yeah.
A
I never heard of that. Boring.
B
Too healthy.
A
So how did you and Brenda hit it off?
C
We met at the back of the line. We were jogging while everyone else was running.
A
That's kind of funny. Yeah, the lazy ones who weren't taking it very seriously.
B
You can say that slow, Jeff. You don't have to speed shame them. Okay? They showed up. They're not that lazy.
A
I feel like being telling him he's slow is more shameful.
B
People know when they're slow. I'm slow. It's okay.
C
All right.
A
So what did you and Brenda talk about at the back of the line?
C
Well, we kind of bonded on the fact that we were in running club, but hated running club.
A
Nice.
B
So, right.
A
It's like the cool kids in the back of the bus. Why don't I even sign up for this dumb thing? Why are we here?
C
So I ended up getting her number, which was cool. So we started texting and then I worked up the courage to ask her out. Cute.
B
So how long of a friendship did you have before you asked her out?
C
Maybe two months if I had to guess. Somewhere around there.
A
You're a slow runner and a slow mover. Romantically. That's your style.
B
I like it. I bet you were so nervous because, you know, you don't want to screw up run club that you hate.
A
Yeah, good point.
B
Brooke, you're have to pick up the pace to avoid her at practice.
C
Exactly.
A
So what did you do? I mean, you went out on an official date after this, right?
C
Yeah, I didn't want to go somewhere too fancy, but I also didn't want to go to like a Denny's or something. So I picked a like a middle of the road Italian restaurant that I've been to before. And I knew the food was good.
A
You could say Olive Garden. It's fine. I was Going to say bro. I mean, we all love.
B
We're all family.
A
Yeah.
C
No, it was definitely better than Olive Garden. Olive Garden is like the fast food of Italian restaurant.
B
Hey, wait a minute.
A
We love that Alfredo.
B
Yeah, but we love fast food, so it's okay.
A
Yeah, that's true. So you went to the Macaroni Bar and Grill, and how was it there?
C
Oh, God.
B
We're just teasing you. We don't care about the actual Italian restaurant. You went.
A
You obviously went to, like, a local Italian restaurant.
C
It's not important, guys.
A
Yeah, that's true. We're more interested in your bond and connection with Brenda while you were there.
C
I feel like the night was going really good. Our conversation was good. I felt like we clicked. And at some point, you know how they serve bread and they have, like, a little fabric thing underneath it?
A
A napkin? Yeah, we're familiar with napkins.
C
Well, it's like a doily. I think they call it Fancy little.
B
Yeah, I can see that.
A
Oh, yeah, Sorry. We were still thinking Olive Garden.
B
What happened with the doily?
C
So there was. Underneath it, there was, like, a half ripped. It seemed like a breakup note.
B
Oh, my God. Like a Dear John letter.
C
It was strange. It was, like, only, like, half of it, though. And it was kind of smudgy, but you could tell it was. I don't know. It was like a breakup note is the only way I could describe it.
B
So was that, like, a fun thing to talk about on your date?
C
No. I mean, I thought it was kind of funny in a way, but she did not really react at all. It changed the vibe for sure.
B
Yeah.
C
Because I went to the bathroom, and then when I got back from the bathroom, I felt like the air had changed. She, like, didn't want dessert. She's like, okay, you could just take me home. Like, real matter of fact.
A
Oh, God.
B
I mean, do you think it reminded her of a past breakup and it made her sad?
C
I don't know if that's what it was. I'm just, like, guessing here, but something happened that she didn't like, and she kind of, like, ended it.
A
Well, clearly she understood that. They sat you down at the breakup table inside the restaurant.
B
Either that or she was upset. You took her to a restaurant where they don't clean the tables very well. Yeah.
A
Good boy. Geez. Yeah. I mean, that sounds like it's kind of like a bad omen for your first date. But that's not your fault. Like, I think you can recover from that. It's not like you.
B
I think it'd be a good omen. I'd read it. I try to find out who the couple is. And I. The waiter. I'm with Alexis. It'd be juicy gossip to talk about.
A
You could bond over it. Like as we're starting, somebody else ended.
B
What was the ride home like in the car?
C
Awkward, quiet. Like I was trying to make conversation. And it was just. I don't know. Like I said, the air changed. The vibe was.
B
Have you seen her at Run Club since?
C
No, I've been back there a few times. I called her, I've texted her, I messaged her on Facebook.
B
Oh, my. Okay, no more. Yeah, she's definitely avoiding a lot of.
A
Forms of communication, brother. Okay, and. And now we're going to call.
B
He left smudge notes at every table that she was going to be at for every restaurant she was about to visit.
C
Oh.
A
Well, I mean, we may not know exactly what it is, but we are committed to helping you figure it out, Rick, because we're going to call Brenda in just a few minutes here and try and get you your second date update right after this. Hold on. Second date update? Can you get blocked by somebody else's tragic breakup?
B
That's funny.
A
Oh, my gosh. That's what our listener Rick is wondering. Cause he took a woman named Brenda out to a mid tier Italian restaurant. His description, not ours. Yeah, but at the bottom of their bread bowl, they found part of a breakup note that a previous couple had apparently left underneath the doily.
B
Oof.
A
Which Rick found kind of amusing. Yeah, but after that, he says the whole mood suddenly shifted and Brenda asked if he could take her back home.
B
Yeah, and she's been avoiding him at all costs.
A
Yes.
C
Yeah.
A
So weird. And take her home. Not in the fun. Hey, let's go back to my place and I'll show you my fish tank kind of way. The I'm ready for the night to be over right now kind of way.
B
You know how to get to a girl. We love seeing fish tanks.
A
Oh, yeah. Any sort of pet, you're all in. Yeah, but like Brooke said, the real red flag is she stopped showing up to Run Club, which I guess she wasn't really a huge fan of anyway, but still, something's going on. Yeah, to make her totally disappear. And we're trying to figure that out.
B
Rick. That's got to be it. Like, I remember going to see do you remember Jennifer Aniston's movie Breakup? I don't know if you guys remember it, but I went with a date and we both left being like this isn't gonna work. Oh, really? I don't know. It just, like, brought up all these feelings of, like, I'm really settling right now.
A
Does something bad happen in the breakup?
B
I mean, that's the whole her and Vince Vaughn fighting the whole movie. I think maybe that's how she felt.
A
The point is, Rick, we don't want any of those bad vibes to happen on this call. We're going to go to bat for you. Are you ready to do this?
C
I'm ready as I'm ever going to be.
B
Okay, you're not the guy from that breakup letter. You're a great guy that deserves a.
C
Chance, as far as you know.
B
Oh, wait, wait. That's not very reassuring, Rick. I know. It's a joke.
A
That's it.
B
Now is the time to say it.
A
Yeah, you should. You're joking.
C
Yeah, of course I'm joking. Guys, come on.
A
All right, we have to be sure before we do these. Here we go. You still don't believe them? Yeah, we'll find out. Here we go.
C
Hello?
A
Hey, is this Brenda?
C
Yeah. This is who's calling?
A
Who's calling is a radio show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning. Hello. Good morning.
C
Okay. Hi.
A
Hi.
B
Not a normal thing. We get it, Brenda.
C
Yeah. Okay. Did I win something or what's going on?
B
Yeah, it's always the hopeful response, isn't it, Jeffrey?
A
It's tough when people ask that because I don't know the right way to respond other than to say no, not really. This is a segment we do called A Second Date Update.
C
Okay.
A
We try to help out a listener who's gone out on a date with somebody recently, but they're not getting a call back for a second one. We try to help step in and figure out the reason why, if there is a reason. Yeah, this guy that reached out about you, his name is Rick.
C
Oh.
A
We're trying to help Rick figure out what's gone on since your date because he says he hasn't even seen you at Run Club.
C
I mean. Yeah, I haven't been there.
B
Did you quit because of him?
C
Yeah.
A
All right. It sounds like this isn't just a coincidence. You're actually trying to avoid him.
C
I am avoiding him, yes.
A
All right. Okay. So if you could help explain, like, why you're trying to avoid him, because Rick is pretty clueless.
C
I mean, we had been talking for quite a while at Run Club, and, yeah, I thought he was different than other guys, but after our date, I don't think he is.
B
What? What do you mean? What Are other guys, like, I guess is maybe where we should start.
C
I mean, like, just cheating on people and doing other.
A
Oh, my gosh. Cheating?
B
You think Rick's a cheater?
C
Yeah.
A
I don't understand this. Rick said this was your first date.
C
Yeah. So my friends who date a lot more than I do taught me this trick that, like, you don't want to, like, go in someone's song because that's just sort of rude. But when he went to the bathroom, he left his phone on the table.
B
Yeah.
C
What you do is you call the guy's phone when he goes away, and you see what name pops up.
A
Oh, how he has you saved in his phone.
C
Yeah, so when he went to the bathroom, I called his phone. The name that popped up on the screen for my number said Matthew.
A
Oh, you're Matthew.
C
I mean, I don't know. What conclusion would you guys come up with if you saw that?
A
Oh, that is actually exactly what I.
B
Would think I would see where you would jump to that conclusion. The only time a guy would change a woman's name in his phone to a male name is so that his. Yeah. Other. Other female in his life wouldn't know who's calling.
A
Got it. So that's. That's the reason why you asked him to take you home?
C
Yeah, when he came back, I wasn't in the mood for dessert. I was just ready to go. So.
B
So wait, but you never accused him? You never said, hey, you're in a relationship. What the heck?
C
Yeah, because, I mean, it's only a first date, and I don't know this person.
B
I know, but you've also just spent two months with him at the Run Club. You know what I mean? Like, I think you have every right to be angry. That's two months of him lying to you.
A
Brooke wants you to confront him right now. Actually, she does. She wants.
B
Actually. What is happen happening?
A
She wants it to happen because we actually already have Rick on the other line listening to this, waiting to talk.
C
Seriously? Oh, no.
A
Seriously? Yeah. Rick.
C
Hi. Yeah. Yeah. Hello.
A
I'd start explaining yourself there, Rick.
C
What is there to explain?
A
The thing that really.
B
Why would you call a radio show if you're in another relationship?
C
I'm not in a relationship.
B
Okay.
C
Why did you name me Matthew in your phone? Because I just thought it was funny. There's just. I have my reasons.
A
So you do have a reason, but it's not cheating. But you think the reasons.
B
You don't have an excuse right now.
A
Is that it sounds like I can hear him thinking right Now?
C
Yeah, literally, I don't have anything to have an excuse for. I mean, I'm dating, technically. I just don't see a problem.
A
So there are other women that you're going out with, but no one that.
B
You call a girlfriend or committed to wife?
C
Yeah, I'm seeing other people, and for their protection, I change their names in my phone.
B
Oh, wow. What do you mean? Who else is texting you?
C
Not only do I have a Matthew, but I have a John, I have a mark.
A
I've got a lot of names. You got all the apostles. You're just going right down the New Testament with names.
B
Look at you with Bible references. Yeah, that's weird.
C
I mean, you guys are laughing, but if I'm going on three dates in one week. Yeah. I don't want these girls to feel bad, so I want a guy's name to pop up if my phone rings so none of them feel bad.
B
See, for me, that would spark a whole new round of suspicions.
A
Why is John keep asking what you're wearing?
B
Why'd you call it five times hot.
A
And heavy in the tags?
C
I don't know. He's spinning it like it's for our protection, but I know that people d. Yeah, it just seems dishonest and weird. Okay, it's not dishonest or weird. It's just the way that I date. Okay?
B
I mean, anything. It's all the women going through his phone that are maybe a little dishonest.
A
Well, let me. Let me try to clear things up here. Because, Rick, you say you're seeing a bunch of different women and you're dating around, and that's totally fine. But can I ask you, you, are any of these ladies in your life, would any of them consider themselves as your girlfriend? Or is this just like you don't see them as your girlfriend? Wow, that's a good question.
B
He's like, well, I got a couple clingy ones. Yeah.
C
Yeah. A couple of them might.
A
A couple of them might say they're your girlfriend.
C
Oh, yeah. If you ask them.
B
Possibly delusional. Why would they think. Think that? Would they think that because you told them that?
C
No, I've never used the term girlfriend in any of my dating experience.
A
Okay. I mean, at this point, we are running out of time, so I do need to ask if you want to go out on another date, but how many run clubs are you in right now, Rick?
B
Oh, to meet all these men.
A
Yeah. I mean, whatever.
C
They are just the one.
A
All right.
B
But he's in a bowling league. He's also part of a wine tasting club.
A
Brenda, I know this is all looking pretty bad, but despite what you've heard, would you be willing to give Rick one more chance and go on another date with him? Because we'd pay for it.
C
No, I just don't trust him. I don't trust him. You guys like? Yeah.
B
Well, you shouldn't. When a guy agree with you right.
A
Now on the text board, when a.
B
Guy says there's a couple women who think they're my girlfriend, it's usually a pretty big red flag problem. Yeah.
A
Well, Rickman, I'm sorry, it looks like you're gonna have to block Matthew in your phone now, so.
C
Darn.
B
I think Matthew's blocking him.
A
Double block.
C
Yeah, yeah, whatever. Thanks anyways. I guess. I don't know.
A
We tried. Look how heartbroken he is over that. Oh man, this one hurts.
B
What girlfriend Izzy's gonna rush home to?
A
Yeah, let me get out the Bible and I'll find out.
C
Oh no.
A
Oh, he's hitting on Gabriel. Oh no. He's the saucy one. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning Eczema.
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A
I thought it was a good point Alexis brought up because it sounds.
B
Did you ever see that?
A
I'm surprised, I'm saying.
B
But it.
A
You know, it does sound like it's an okay idea to do with just a couple names. But when you're juggling a bunch of different dudes names, swapping them out for girls names, it's gotta get really, really confusing really fast. Is this really My friend Matters?
B
It's hard enough to remember people's regular names, let alone the pseudo name you give them. I don't like a guy that's this calculated before he does anything wrong. I don't trust him.
A
Oh, that's Wilson.
B
Like who knows before he does anything wrong. He just said that. Multiple girls think that. But he's not in actual trouble yet. Imagine he's already organizing.
A
Before you know he's gonna end up talking to some girl named Elizabeth. But accidentally call her Hank and then it'll be super awkward.
B
That's after they kiss. Wow.
A
Hopefully we did him a favor by exposing this early on in his questionable dating strategy.
B
Yeah, I don't really want to do him any favors, Jeff.
A
I just want to. He needs some help, Brooke. Come on. If he's doing this, he's desperate. Just yeah, Remember, you could check out our podcast wherever you get yours. Apple, Spotify, Iheart. We're gonna be there. Just look us up at Brooke and Jeffrey. What a matchup we got, y'. All. This is that classic HBCU vibe. Non stop action. The band is rocking and the crowd lit. Chance echo drum beat everybody showing that school pride game like this. Yeah, it calls for an ice cold Coca Cola. Ah crisp and refreshing. That's a game changer right there. Yeah, that taste always hits the right note, just like the band at halftime. And just like that, we're back at it. Passionate fans, school colors everywhere, and an ice cold Coca Cola. That's a winning combo no matter the sport, no matter the yard. Everybody knows fan work is thirsty work. So grab a Coca Cola and keep that HBCU pride going.
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Date: November 17, 2025
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts
This episode centers around Rick, a listener seeking help after being ghosted by Brenda following their first official date. The hosts (Brooke, Jeffrey, Alexis, and Jose) unravel the real reason behind Brenda's sudden cold shoulder, which involves an odd phone hack and questions about honesty in modern dating. True to the podcast’s spirit, the investigation is full of playful banter and awkward humor, while ultimately revealing deeper issues of trust and authenticity in relationships.
The episode maintains the show’s signature lighthearted, cheeky tone, with the hosts alternating between empathetic support, sarcastic quips, and playful skepticism. Rick’s story is met with a mix of friendly advice and gentle teasing, while Brenda’s perspective draws earnest concern and validation.
In this episode of "Second Date Update," Rick seeks answers after Brenda disappears following a promising first date. Using a modern “trust hack,” Brenda discovers Rick lists her as “Matthew” in his phone and concludes he’s being dishonest about his dating life. Rick admits he uses male names for his dates to avoid awkwardness when dating multiple people, but this backfires, confirming Brenda’s suspicions and costing him another chance. The hosts use Rick’s predicament to discuss dating transparency and poke fun at his odd logic, making for an entertaining, revealing, and relatable slice of modern romance gone wrong.