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It's Friday and we do have a podcast for you. Here it is. Yes, we do. This second date classic might inspire your next party theme.
Brooke
Oh, really? Yeah, it could.
Alexis
It could.
Jeffrey
But you need to buy handcuffs in bulk, I think. Wait a minute.
Brooke
I don't know if I like this thing yet.
Alexis
Think it through for sure.
Jeffrey
Yeah, stick around for that. But first, we've got comments. Yeah.
Alexis
Jess commented on an episode from the other day and said this made me cringe so much I had to stop
Jeffrey
listening for a few hours and come back to finish. That's bad. Hell yeah.
Brooke
I think it's sadistic that you came back and finished what the heck eventually
Alexis
prepare for the second time.
Jeffrey
Absolutely. Well, I hope the second half was worth it for you. Yeah. All right, here's your second date podcast starting right now. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update.
Brooke
We've got a listener named Mandy on the phone right now for a second date update. And I have to say, Mandy, you instantly piqued my interest with three words you wrote in your email.
Jeffrey
Oh, I'm curious.
Brooke
Wow. Champagne and shackles. That sounds like a good night. I saw that and I said stop. Delete all the other requests for second dates. We must speak to this woman. Cause normally we hear about people meeting up at bars and restaurants for dates, but champagne and shackles?
Jeffrey
Why do I thank the local county jail? No one else. Visitation? I don't know. You can bring it in. You can smuggle anything in that place.
Brooke
Brooke, you would smuggle champagne into prison or jail? I didn't need to take my black market pills after I read that. So Mandy, thank you for reaching out. You can smuggle those into prison too.
Jeffrey
Yeah, I bet.
Brooke
Mandy, welcome to the show.
Mandy
Thank you.
Jeffrey
Oh, my gosh.
Brooke
Anyone that can get Jeff to not take his pills is worthy of our time. That's right.
Jeffrey
You already sound like a firecracker.
Brooke
I've got my pen and my paper ready, Mandy. So tell us, exactly how does champagne and shackles work?
Mandy
Okay, so really, a champagne and shackles party?
Jeffrey
Oh, it's a party, Definitely.
Mandy
Yeah, it's a party, and it's like a college thing.
Brooke
Oh, it's like a theme.
Jeffrey
It's fifth and cuffs, but yeah, fancier.
Brooke
Fifth and cuffs.
Mandy
You want to know the fifth? You and another person get tied together, and while both holding a Magnum bottle of champagne.
Brooke
Oh, damn Magnum bottle.
Jeffrey
You must be going to a private college, because there is no way my poor ass is buying a Magnum champagne in college.
Brooke
You're chugging Carlo Rossi.
Jeffrey
Yes. Thank you, Jose.
Mandy
So, yeah, your hands are tied together.
Jeffrey
Okay?
Mandy
And you can't untie until the two of you finish it.
Brooke
Until you finish the drink.
Jeffrey
Here's my question. Do you get to choose who you're tied to, or is it randomly selected?
Jack
It?
Mandy
Everyone that's single that goes has to find a hinge date to shackle up with.
Jeffrey
Oh, so you're bringing a. This is such a good idea. Cuz in college, it's a date dash is what you do this for.
Brooke
That would sound so fun. If a girl invited me to this, I'd be like, oh, yeah, Better for
Jeffrey
a girl to ask a guy to put on handcuffs the other way around. That's a good point, Alexa. Yeah, probably most of the women did the inviting at this point.
Brooke
Imagine a guy. Hey, can I handcuff you?
Jack
Yeah.
Brooke
So that's what you did?
Mandy
Yes, I went online and I did some scrolling, and so I met this guy named Jack.
Jeffrey
Okay, and why'd you pick him?
Mandy
Well, I told him about the idea, and right away he was in real
Brooke
cool, a little shady. Didn't ask any questions, just right away.
Jeffrey
Maybe he's an ex frat boy.
Brooke
You know, he brought his own shackles to the party. He was like, I got this.
Jeffrey
Did you meet him for the first time when you guys arrived to the party?
Mandy
Yes, we met outside, and then it was like, 60 to 70% couples that had hinge dates.
Brooke
Oh, wow. That's like the majority of the party.
Jeffrey
That is such a risk, though. Can you imagine seeing the person in real life for the first time and going, oh, my God, I have to be tied to you for three hours or however long it takes?
Brooke
Well, that's when the champagne comes in handy.
Jeffrey
You just start chugging, I guess.
Brooke
So you and Jack got your hands bound together with a giant Magnum bottle of champagne. How did that go?
Mandy
It was actually really fun. You start to figure out how to navigate things and, like, how to move together.
Jeffrey
Did the novelty of it ever wear off?
Mandy
Like, no. I would say, like, we were really kind of just trying to get around that big obstacle, which is you're trying to finish this bottle before one of you has to use the restroom.
Jack
Okay. Well.
Jeffrey
Oh, I didn't even think about that piece.
Mandy
But here's the thing. Unfortunately, I lost that battle. Oh, my God. You had to pee. I had to go so badly.
Alexis
I just.
Mandy
I, like, I kept putting it off and putting it off, but since you're tied together, Jack had to come with me, and it was just, like, beyond.
Brooke
Oh, I can only imagine.
Mandy
I was trying not to make any noise.
Jeffrey
Oh, my God, dude. But that first pee when you have to go so bad, is so loud.
Brooke
Yeah.
Alexis
Yes.
Mandy
And I was a little tipsy.
Brooke
We don't need the commentary, I think, on the sound level. Describe the pee.
Jeffrey
Oh, I know what it sounds like.
Mandy
You know what I mean? Mortified. Like, rethinking the details.
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Yeah.
Jeffrey
At least he's not sober though, too, watching that happen.
Brooke
And he knows you're both in an embarrassing situation, so he can relate. Well, what was his mood or tone while that was all going on?
Mandy
I mean, he honestly was a perfect gentleman.
Brooke
Oh, that's great.
Jeffrey
That's a good answer.
Brooke
He sounds like a great guy. What happened?
Mandy
Yeah. And, like, even the whole restroom part, like, it was funny in the moment, but, like, I don't know. I thought that might be hard to come back from.
Brooke
Yeah. Yeah.
Jeffrey
Did you guys ever get.
Brooke
It's because it's one thing to do this as, like, a college party. It's another thing to do it when this is supposed to be, like, kind of a romantic first date. At least you're trying to make, like, a good first impression on somebody, and that's kind of tough to do with. That's true. Half of your clothes off.
Jeffrey
Well, I don't know about that. I think that part would.
Brooke
No, I mean, in that. In that situation.
Alexis
Yeah.
Brooke
Let's finish up with the bathroom part. What happened after?
Mandy
Okay, so we do end up going back into the party, and at that point, he was able to finish the bottle.
Jeffrey
Okay, good.
Brooke
Did he, like, chug it immediately after the bathroom inc. Incident was like, we need to get.
Mandy
Pretty much. We end up splitting off for a bit and then towards the end, I caught him and, like, he had to go and I thanked him and there has not been a second date. And, like, I thought he was really cool and I'd love to redo it as a normal day, like in a tamer setting.
Alexis
Yeah.
Jeffrey
Did you see him talking to anybody else after he split off? I mean, I'm just thinking there's so many hinge singles there.
Jack
Right?
Mandy
Yeah. Right. Not really. He was just getting along, just enjoying the party, enjoying the vibe.
Jack
Okay.
Jeffrey
Yeah, we can get you guys together.
Brooke
Together at an Olive Garden or something. I mean, the good news is, like, the goal of any first date is to build camaraderie and connection and have memorable moments. You definitely have those from your first hangout.
Alexis
Oh, my God.
Jeffrey
If he said who? After we tell him,
Brooke
we'll find out. We're about to give him a call and we'll try and get your champagne and shackle. Second date update right after this.
Jeffrey
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update.
Brooke
When you hear about a first date where champagne was involved and then a few restraints are added in, suddenly you end up in a bathroom alone with this person. I'm thinking 50 Shades of Gray, part four, Christian is back and at it again.
Jeffrey
Wait, there was a part three and
Brooke
a. Yeah, yeah, there was three movies. I love how Jeff and Alexis immediately.
Mandy
I know.
Brooke
How have you not seen that? And the thing is, you, Jeff, watch
Jeffrey
together 150 parts of gray. By the time you get to that, I have no complaints.
Brooke
Yeah, it wasn't that, though. It turns out in this case, it was just a champagne and shackles party. Yeah. Where our listener Mandy was bound together with a guy that she met on Hinge named Jack. And again, if you're just tuning in, those things work like this. You and your date have to finish off an entire bottle of champagne before you can unlock from each other.
Jeffrey
And I think it was a Magnum bottle. Like a big boy.
Brooke
Yeah, in this case, it was.
Jeffrey
I mean, it's a headache the next day, for sure.
Brooke
The idea is college esque, for sure. And, Alexis, do you miss those college parties hearing this back, or do you just not remember?
Jeffrey
Obviously, I'm about to go host one this weekend. I'm so inspired.
Brooke
The weird part of the night that happened, though, was when Mandy had to use the restroom before they were able to finish their champagne. So Jack had to tag along for that ride. They got through it. Yeah, but might not be the best first impression for a first date because
Jeffrey
he chugged the rest of the bottle right afterwards. And Then ditched her.
Brooke
Yeah. Mandy. Is that a good description of what happened?
Mandy
Oh, yeah.
Jeffrey
Okay. Okay. I mean, the thing is, is, like, you want to do a regular date with this guy, right? Like, the first one was fun and exciting, and now you got to see if there's, like, truly a connection.
Mandy
Totally.
Brooke
Well, I guess we'll just see what he has to say.
Jeffrey
He's not strapped to another woman when we call him.
Brooke
Oh, that would be a problem. Who's going to answer the phone? In that case, a stream. Hang up right away. Okay, but I'm gonna dial Jack for you right now. Here we go.
Jack
Hello?
Brooke
Hey, is this Jack?
Jack
Yeah, this is Jack. Who's this?
Brooke
This is a radio show. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.
Jeffrey
Hey, Jack.
Jack
Hello. Yeah.
Jeffrey
Yeah, this doesn't happen every day. We get it.
Brooke
Feels good to be on the radio in front of a lot of people, doesn't it?
Jack
Yeah, that sounds like a lot of people over there. What's going on?
Brooke
A lot of listeners. We're doing a segment here called A Second Date Update where we're trying to help out one of our listeners that you met up with. Not too long ago, you went to a champagne and shackles party with a woman named Mandy.
Jack
Yeah, the Cuff and date. Yeah, I remember that.
Brooke
Yeah, right.
Jeffrey
What did you think when she hit you up on Hinge and asked you to go to this?
Jack
Yeah. Honestly, it kind of gave me flashbacks from when I was in Locked up in prison.
Brooke
What?
Jack
I'm just joking, guys.
Brooke
Okay.
Jeffrey
I totally thought that was legit.
Jack
Yeah.
Brooke
Turned on for this. Okay, well, that. We appreciate that. But on a more serious note, we are trying to help Mandy figure out if there's gonna be a second date between the two of you.
Jeffrey
Yeah. What'd you think of her?
Jack
Mandy's a nice girl.
Jeffrey
Okay.
Brooke
Yeah, we spoke to her, and we got that impression.
Jeffrey
No woman wants to be called nice.
Brooke
Your guy?
Jeffrey
No, nobody likes that in just that. Nothing else with it. When you first saw her, were you attracted to her?
Jack
She's pretty. Yeah.
Brooke
Is there a reason that you're not speaking to her anymore?
Jack
She's. She's a little bit different than some of the other girls I've gone out with before.
Jeffrey
Okay. That's usually a good thing if you're single, right? Like, it means the other ones didn't work out.
Brooke
Sure.
Jack
Yeah. But we had a bathroom incident.
Jeffrey
Oh, you can talk about that because she actually already told us about the bathroom incident.
Jack
Did she?
Brooke
Yeah, and she had.
Jeffrey
She said you were like a perfect gentleman.
Jack
Oh, really? Okay.
Brooke
You don't feel. Were you rude? Like, how do you remember it? Why?
Jack
I wasn't rude. She. Well, we're at this party, we're tied together, and she says she wants to go into the bathroom with me.
Brooke
Right?
Jack
And I'm like, oh, okay. Yeah. Going to the bathroom with you.
Jeffrey
Oh, oh, oh, you're.
Brooke
You're reading between the lines of what that means.
Jack
Yeah. We go into the bathroom, and I'm about to kiss her. Honestly, no.
Brooke
Oh, no. Oh, my God.
Jeffrey
You didn't know that she actually had to go.
Jack
She turns the light on and says, can I turn around because she's gonna use the bathroom?
Jeffrey
Yes.
Brooke
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You thought she was trying to create a little private romantic moment for you.
Jeffrey
That has to be.
Jack
Yeah, I had no idea. I was. I pulled my shirt up. You know, I thought it was a moment.
Brooke
You really go for it. One handed, derogatory.
Jeffrey
So you were like the disappointment that what you expected didn't turn out to be, is why you're not calling her back?
Brooke
Yeah.
Jack
No, not at all. Not at all.
Jeffrey
Oh, okay, that's good.
Brooke
What was it?
Jack
Well, she's at the bathroom, and I'm just, like, ready to go back out there. She says, no, hold on. I want to touch my makeup.
Brooke
Oh, okay.
Jack
Okay. So she. She did that for. For a while.
Brooke
Oh, so you're standing there in the bathroom.
Jeffrey
Why is that bad?
Brooke
How long is a while?
Jack
I'm not timing the girl, but it could have been anywhere from 17 to 20 minutes. Honestly.
Brooke
17? Oh, my God.
Jeffrey
So you two were in the bathroom for a very long time.
Jack
It was some time. Yeah. And I tried to break up the time by adding a little small talk, but she was really, really into her work and doing her makeup.
Jeffrey
Hey, you said. You said she was attractive. I mean, I'm sorry. It takes a lot of work to be attractive.
Jack
As I noticed. It took a lot of work. Yeah, you're. That's what I was saying.
Brooke
Well, just. I would be careful with the things that you say there, Jack, because you should probably know at this point that Mandy's on the other line listening to this.
Jack
Oh, yeah.
Brooke
She wants to talk to you.
Jack
Okay.
Mandy
I mean, Jack, I can't even believe this. Like, you're gonna be judging me for putting on too much makeup.
Jack
I didn't say too much.
Mandy
Seriously.
Jeffrey
Oh, that was a hole.
Mandy
Okay.
Brooke
Long time period.
Mandy
Okay, was it long, though, or were we just tipsy? Like, come on, we're enjoying ourselves.
Brooke
Whatever. Could have been five minutes. And you just thought it was like,
Jack
no, no, it was like 20 minutes.
Mandy
And I thought we were having a good time. I'm not even really paying attention to any of that. Just enjoying yourself.
Jack
I noticed you weren't paying attention. Yeah.
Brooke
Okay, listen, you have to consider the circumstances that you guys were in. She doesn't have both of her hands to apply the makeup. So right there, 17 minutes, you got to cut that in half when you add the second hand on your right
Jeffrey
hand or your left hand. That was usable. Dominant if you were having to use your wrong hand.
Mandy
Yeah, it was not my dominant hand.
Brooke
Okay, so she's using her weak one hand to apply makeup. Plus, she's tipsy, so maybe. Jack, do you think you're being a little bit judgy about that part of it? If anything, you should have helped her, bro. Yeah. Helped her put her mascara.
Jack
Well, I. Like I said, I tried to talk a little bit, a little small talk, but she didn't seem to want any small talk because she was so focused in on her job.
Jeffrey
Okay, so you're feeling ignored. I mean, that's really what it comes.
Jack
Definitely. That's a good word. For sure.
Brooke
Did you feel that same way with your cellmate in prison when you guys were sharing champagne?
Jack
Actually, no. They were a lot more touchy feeling.
Brooke
Very attentive. Wine man.
Jeffrey
I really, really think you should give her another chance, because you two. You sound funny together. You know, it's just a weird first date.
Jack
Yeah.
Brooke
And you had a moment. And we're gonna offer to send you guys out a second time on a date that we would pay for. A normal date, right? It could be normal. Or if you want to do zip ties and Zima, that's up to you.
Mandy
Okay.
Jeffrey
That's your college days.
Brooke
Burger King and blindfolds. Whatever you want.
Jeffrey
Why are you so good at these?
Brooke
I just do that one by myself.
Jeffrey
Whips and Wendy's.
Brooke
Yeah. So, Mandy, you say yes. Still?
Mandy
I mean, I still had a really good time. I guess the things I didn't remember because I was tipsy, but, like, if you're down, I'd really like to see if there is something.
Jack
Okay.
Jeffrey
Jackie, that's cute.
Brooke
Balls in your court.
Jeffrey
Come on, Jack.
Jack
The alcohol could have been in play. I agree.
Brooke
Good.
Jack
So, yeah.
Jeffrey
Okay.
Brooke
You said yes.
Mandy
Okay.
Brooke
Well, congratulations, you two. We're gonna hop on Amazon, get some zip ties ready, and you guys are gonna have a great time. Jack, are you happy now?
Jack
I'm really happy. Yeah. I think it'd be a great go with Mandy. Well, hopefully it'd be different this time
Mandy
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
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Brooke
successful second date update in more ways than one because now there's a couple texts that we're getting asking if Brooke and Jeffrey would sponsor a Champagne and Shackles night for them.
Jeffrey
That would be so fun. Listener Champagne and Shack. Wait, I don't know what kind of waivers we'd have to get. Yeah, for people to sign.
Brooke
That's not smart.
Jeffrey
It's more of a friend thing, I think.
Brooke
Well, maybe there's another one from a 78 year old woman at a retirement home asking for a champagne and shingles night. Maybe that would be better.
Jeffrey
I would recommend the shingles vaccine. Yeah, that's what you should go with.
Brooke
The fun out of it.
Jeffrey
It's a little more painful.
Brooke
Jeff, it'll be interesting to get another update from this couple. Jack did for holds pretty quickly once he found out that she was waiting on the phone to talk to him.
Jeffrey
Well, that is like how I would be. You know, like, oh, they heard me. Oh, shoot.
Brooke
Some people really care about looking good on the radio. They don't want to come across looking bad. But I don't give a crap.
Jeffrey
Oh, okay.
Brooke
There you go. I'll say anything.
Jeffrey
All right.
Brooke
Whatever it takes to get you a second date, right?
Jack
No cry here.
Brooke
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Release Date: March 13, 2026
Hosts: Brooke, Jeffrey, Alexis
Guest Listener: Mandy
Date's Name: Jack
This episode of "Second Date Update" centers on Mandy, who ropes the show in with the unforgettable email subject “Champagne and Shackles.” The focus is Mandy’s failed attempt to reconnect after a wild, themed first date with Jack—a stranger she handcuffed herself to, as per a quirky party tradition. The episode delivers the hilarious, awkward, and authentic moment-by-moment breakdown of their first meeting and investigates what really went wrong (or right) in hopes of sparking a second date.
On the party concept:
Bathroom blunder:
Jack’s misconception:
On makeup time:
Encouragement for second date:
| Timestamp | Segment Description | |-----------|------------------------------------------------------| | 04:02 | Mandy’s email and party concept introduced | | 05:25 | How “Champagne and Shackles” party works | | 07:33 | Bathroom fiasco and aftermath | | 09:38 | Mandy’s wish for a normal second date | | 12:33 | Hosts call Jack for his perspective | | 15:22 | Jack’s romantic misreading of the bathroom moment | | 16:07 | Jack’s “makeup marathon” complaint | | 17:06 | Mandy reacts to the makeup critique | | 18:44 | Hosts offer to sponsor a real second date | | 19:40 | Jack agrees to the second date |
Summary: Mandy’s “Champagne and Shackles” date with Jack was offbeat, awkward, and memorable—a perfect storm for the show. Key takeaways: honest embarrassment makes for connection, sometimes chemistry is buried under bathroom breaks and makeup routines, and occasionally it takes a second shot sans handcuffs to really see if romance can uncork.
Outcome: Thanks to the playful intervention from Brooke and Jeffrey, Mandy and Jack agree to a normal second date—proving that even if your first encounter is a farcical fiasco, there’s always hope for round two (perhaps with fewer shackles, literal and figurative).