Second Date Update Classic: Double Kiss Surprise

Summary

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Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Episode: Second Date Update Classic – Double Kiss Surprise

Aired: February 18, 2026
Podcast: Brooke and Jeffrey
Host: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

This episode of “Second Date Update” dives into a first date gone unexpectedly awkward—but not in the way you’d think. Trisha, an active and upbeat woman, enlists the help of Brooke and Jeffrey after Gino, her sporty date, suddenly pulls away despite what she thought was a charming and flirty evening. As it turns out, what seemed like a harmless double kiss and some post-date texts spiraled into a series of unexpected red flags.

Theme:
A friendly (and literally playful) first date and how enthusiastic follow-up questions can unintentionally scare a potential romantic partner away.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Trisha and Gino’s First Date: Setting the Scene

• [04:45] Trisha shares that she and Gino met online, bonded over their mutual sportiness, and decided to play pickup basketball for their date.
  • “He's like a very chill guy...super cute. Why not?” – Trisha [04:49]
• The pair made a friendly wager: Loser buys drinks.
• The game ended in a “tie” after Trisha’s shot rebounded into Gino’s nose (minor, not bloody).
  • “His pride is hurt...this all sounds so good.” – Brooke [06:21]

2. A Double Kiss (the ‘Surprise’)

• [07:33] At the end of the night, Trisha initiated a kiss by her car, then ran to Gino’s car to give him another surprise kiss.
  • “I kissed him on the mouth...then I ran up by his car and gave him another kiss.” – Trisha [07:43]
• The hosts joke about whether Gino enjoyed these “sneak attack” kisses.
  • “Wouldn’t you be so excited if you were a guy?” – Brooke [07:59]
  • “Is there any chance that maybe he thought you were gonna attack him…finish the job?” – Jeffrey [08:04]

3. Post-Date Texts: The Real Surprise

• Trisha texts Gino multiple times post-date; his replies are “spotty” (every few responses).
  • “He does respond, but it’s, like, spotty...every three texts or something.” – Trisha [08:25]
• Trisha speculates if her double kiss or being forward is to blame: “Maybe I was a little too forward. I don’t know.” – Trisha [09:09]
• Jeffrey suggests sometimes eagerness comes across as too much.

4. Contacting Gino: Getting Answers

• The hosts call Gino to get his perspective.
• Gino reveals the issue wasn’t the nose incident or the date, but Trisha’s intense post-date texts:
  1. First Text:
     • “What’s the best case scenario for us?” [12:59]
     • “How do I answer this? Football in the face and more drinks…” – Gino [13:10]
  2. Second Text:
     • “If we got married someday, would you consider ditching your fantasy football league to spend time with me?” [13:39]
     • “That’s a big picture question. That’s two in a row.” – Gino [14:07]
  3. Third Text (Recalled later):
     • “Would your parents ever let us stay in their house so we can save for our future?” [16:13]
     • “But she hadn’t met my parents, and I hadn’t met hers...” – Gino [16:30]
• Gino felt pressured and overwhelmed by these future-oriented questions after just one date.
  • “I just got to a point where I thought, okay, this is just a lot off of one date.” – Gino [14:18]

5. Confrontation & Resolution

• Trisha joins the call and owns being a “planner.” She defends her straightforwardness:
  • “No, we’re not getting any younger…I’m not even gonna bother wasting a minute...” – Trisha [15:25]
  • She says she would have chilled out if Gino was more direct or said he wanted to take things slower.
• Brooke and Jeffrey facilitate an agreement. Gino is open to another date if Trisha can slow down.
  • “If you’re willing to just, like, go out and have fun, then I’m down to go out for another day.” – Gino [18:20]
  • “I promise I’ll slow it down. I won’t ask any future questions, like about our children’s names…” – Trisha [18:57]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Brooke playfully references doubters who skip intros:
  – “I love the real ones for not skipping through the intros.” [02:31]
• On the double kiss surprise:
  – “Her name is Trisha. She is the notorious Southside Surprise Smoocher.” – Jeffrey [10:05] – (Jokingly accompanied by fake puke noises.)
• On Gino’s reaction to texts:
  – “That was just a lot off of one date…I don’t want to be planning out my future with this person.” – Gino [14:18]
• Trisha owning her approach:
  – “I made it this far in life with knowing everything, and I think I’m going to be fine…” – Trisha [17:15]
• Jeffrey’s tongue-in-cheek mediation:
  – “Gino, we could just move this whole thing over if you’re just willing to admit right now it was all your fault.” [17:30]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [04:45] Trisha describes meeting Gino and the playful date premise
• [06:12] The pivotal basketball-to-the-nose moment
• [07:33] The fateful pair of goodnight kisses
• [08:25] Trisha discusses Gino’s erratic texting
• [12:59] Gino reads Trisha’s intense follow-up texts
• [14:18] Gino shares why he felt the relationship was moving too fast
• [17:15] Trisha defends her planning nature
• [18:20] Agreement to move forward, with caveats

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Episode Tone & Host Interactions

The episode is light, playful, and packed with signature Brooke and Jeffrey banter—sarcastic, self-deprecating, and full of comedic asides. They toe the line between roasting and genuinely mediating, ultimately creating an environment where both parties can voice their feelings. The running jokes (about “surprise kisses” and “fantasy football”) keep things entertaining even as real relationship nerves are exposed.

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Summary Takeaway

The “Double Kiss Surprise” ends on a hopeful note: both parties are willing to see where things go, provided Trisha dials back the future-talk and Gino communicates more directly. It’s a classic “Second Date Update”—awkward miscommunications, a little too much enthusiasm, and a chance at romance with a side of laughs.

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For more “Second Date Updates” or to catch the full Brooke and Jeffrey show, check out their episodes on iHeartRadio, Apple, or Spotify.

Transcript

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[Narrator (Charlie’s Place)]

When segregation was a law, one mysterious black club owner, Charlie Fitzgerald, had his own rules.

[Brooke]

Segregation in the day, integration at night.

[Jeffrey]

It was like stepping in another world.

[Narrator (Charlie’s Place)]

Was he a businessman? A criminal? A hero?

[Jeffrey]

Charlie was an example of power. They had to crush him.

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[Ryder Strong]

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[Jeffrey]

So, no, I am not your guru.

[Ryder Strong]

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[Brooke]

They have had this case for 30 years.

[Ryder Strong]

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[Trisha]

Before he wrote his stories, it must have been okay, I don't think that's true.

[Jeffrey]

I'm telling you, the guy was a spy.

[Roald Dahl Podcast Host]

Listen to the secret world of Roald Dahl on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Heather Dubrow]

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[Jeffrey]

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[Jeffrey]

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[Heather Dubrow]

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[Brooke]

Now I gotta just say I love the real ones for not skipping through the intros. It's true. You know, I see those people who comment are like, hey, it starts at 4:55. Trying to skip this. Yeah, we see you. Thank you. Alexis, call them out. For sure. All right. Welcome to your second date podcast. This is the official place to find Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. And we love that you're here. That's why we always highlight you and what you love to say. So say to us. Yes. Questions? Comments? What do you got? Well, psychic moose commented and said, my husband told me he loved me on our third date. My response was. And what does that mean to you? Oh, that is a good response. But we celebrated our 10 year anniversary last week. Dude, that is almost like a pat on the head. Like, that's cute, honey. What does that mean to you?

[Mandy B]

You know those words?

[Brooke]

Yeah, I love it. Well, happy 10th anniversary. Yeah, I hope you finally have said it back to him. I hope he earned it by now.

[Jeffrey]

For sure.

[Brooke]

All right, your second date update starts. Right.

[Trisha]

Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update.

[Jeffrey]

Making a friendly bet during a first date. It could be a good move.

[Brooke]

Yeah, it's kind of cute.

[Jeffrey]

Flirty a little bit. Adds a little excitement to the night. Like, for example, beer chugging contest. Loser has to do the other person's taxes for the next five years. Ready?

[Brooke]

Go. What? None of that was.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, you suck at chugging beer.

[Brooke]

None of that was hot.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, so here's my W4 and A list of my asses. So if you could file those by tomorrow, they're already overdue. I have a bunch of deductibles too, by the way. That not working for you, Brooke?

[Brooke]

Isn't it supposed to be your W2? You have a W4?

[Jeffrey]

Well, good. Good thing you know how to do it because I certainly don't. But one of our listeners had a friendly wager going during her first date and apparently didn't go quite the way she planned. So let's talk to Trisha about it. Trisha, welcome to the show.

[Trisha]

Hi. Thank you.

[Brooke]

You owe. You owe more to the IRS than you expected to. Is that what.

[Trisha]

Not exactly.

[Brooke]

Okay, all right.

[Jeffrey]

You didn't do the tax bet thing, I'm guessing.

[Trisha]

No, I didn't.

[Jeffrey]

And look, now he's not calling you back.

[Trisha]

Wow.

[Brooke]

Jeff, who is it? Who did you go out with?

[Trisha]

So I met this guy named Gino.

[Brooke]

Gino.

[Jeffrey]

Gino.

[Trisha]

And we met online and he really seemed like, very kind of happy. He's like a very chill guy.

[Brooke]

Okay. Those are good qualities in a person.

[Trisha]

Yeah, he's super cute. I was like, why not? So, like, I know by his profile that he's, like, a sporty guy, and I'm pretty sporty myself.

[Jeffrey]

Okay.

[Trisha]

So I thought we would do a game of pickup basketball.

[Brooke]

Oh, okay. That's a great day.

[Jeffrey]

Thought you'd go to a game, not be in a game. That doesn't sound as fun. But, Jose, that's not, like, a sporty thing to do. Watching sports is not an athletic thing. But that's not as athletic as I thought I was because I watched so many sports.

[Brooke]

I mean, that doesn't.

[Jeffrey]

On my couch, Downey, two plates of nachos in under 20 seconds is technically good at that. It is kind of athletic, competitive food, but I don't think that's what Trisha had in mind. Okay, so you guys wanted to do something sporty. What was your bet?

[Trisha]

So the loser had to buy the drinks.

[Brooke]

Oh, that's cute.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, that's easy.

[Brooke]

And it's. It's good to play basketball before drinking.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, probably don't want to do that the other way around.

[Brooke]

I mean, you could make it. A tummy cramp.

[Jeffrey]

No, not at all. Okay, so who won?

[Trisha]

Well, he was pretty good. And I'm not bad at all. So it was close, but I guess we just called it a tie, because when I made the last shot, it hit the rim, and when he turned around to make the rebound, it hit him in the nose.

[Brooke]

Oh. Oh. Did it bleed?

[Trisha]

No, but it looked like it hurt.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

So his pride is hurt. He hasn't, like, really dominated the game. And then he just got an owie.

[Trisha]

Yeah, he had an owie. And then. But he bought drinks anyhow.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

After you hit him in the face with a ball. You didn't pay for the shoes.

[Trisha]

I didn't do it purposely. It hit the rim. Wasn't my fault.

[Brooke]

And she didn't lose, Jeffrey, okay?

[Jeffrey]

She's a stickler for the rules.

[Brooke]

A bet is a bet.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. Okay. Did drinks go good?

[Trisha]

Drinks were great. We had, like, really good conversation, too.

[Brooke]

Okay. This all sounds so good.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. Even when you're getting hit. Doesn't sound that bad. What?

[Brooke]

Is there any bad things that happened?

[Trisha]

No. I mean, he was talking about, like, what he's looking for in a relationship and how he wants an active person, which is awesome, because I do, too. And he talks a little bit about. He loves fantasy football, which I don't understand at all, but whatever.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Trisha]

Yeah. Okay. And then he talked about like, how he had a big party for his family for their anniversary for his parents.

[Brooke]

Oh, that's cute.

[Trisha]

And there's like 50 people, so, like, he's really family oriented, which I thought was great.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, sorry.

[I]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

Jeffrey Heck. Now this is all cute.

[Jeffrey]

How did you end that date?

[Trisha]

So I kissed him by my car.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, you initiated the kiss.

[Trisha]

I did, yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Did you kiss his nose so it felt better, or did you kiss him on the mouth?

[Trisha]

No, I kissed him on the mouth.

[Brooke]

Okay, good.

[Trisha]

Well, it was great. And then I went to get my car and he started walking towards his car. So then I figured I was gonna try and be really cute. And then I ran up to him by his car and I gave him another kiss.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, wow.

[Brooke]

Wouldn't you be so excited if you were a guy?

[Jeffrey]

I'd love that. I don't know.

[Brooke]

You're saying no, Jeffrey.

[Jeffrey]

Is there any chance that maybe he thought you were gonna attack him and try and knock him down again? Finish him off after the nose? Finish the job?

[Trisha]

No, no, I'm just kidding.

[Jeffrey]

So, I mean, all that sounds okay? Two kisses better than one?

[Brooke]

It sounds really romantic.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. How's the conversation been after the date? Or has there been conversation?

[Trisha]

Yeah, like, I've texted him, like, quite a few times, and he does respond, but it's, like, spotty. So, like, he'll respond like, every three texts or something. So that kind of makes me feel like, oh, maybe I did something wrong.

[Jeffrey]

Are you texting from the same number every time?

[Trisha]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Okay.

[Brooke]

I mean, from the same three burner phones that she has?

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

She seems like she likes to do the sneak attack thing, so I'm just.

[Brooke]

Wondering, do you have any ideas?

[Trisha]

I have no clue. I'm. Did he not like me kissing him? Is he, like, afraid because of the balm? I'm not sure what's going on. Like, it's been a few weeks now.

[Jeffrey]

Too, so sometimes a woman can seem a little bit too overeager with things too.

[Trisha]

Maybe I was a little too forward. I don't know.

[Brooke]

I love an eager woman.

[Jeffrey]

Sure you do, but. All right, well, we'll come back, we'll call Gino for you, and we'll try not to, like, sneak attack him too much, but we'll politely ask if he's willing to see you another time. And try and get your second date update right after this, okay?

[Trisha]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

Okay. Hold on.

[Trisha]

Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update.

[Jeffrey]

Out in the parking lot she lurks so dumb Ducking between cars Reapplying her blueberry lip balm. Not the blueberry Watching. Waiting for her moment to run up and strike. Oh, it hurts. Her name is Trisha. She is the notorious Southside Surprise smoocher.

[Brooke]

Why did that guy get sick? I thought her date liked it.

[Jeffrey]

Now, to be fair, it was her second kiss of the night with Geno, and she was just trying to be cute and flirty about it.

[Brooke]

But we had to play puke sound.

[Jeffrey]

For her sneak kiss. May have scared him away to the point where he's avoiding her now.

[Brooke]

I mean, if she was ducking behind.

[Mandy B]

Cars.

[Brooke]

Maybe he's just waiting for her to surprise him again and she hasn't done it.

[Trisha]

I should really hope that it wasn't the second kiss. I mean, that's insane.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, let's call Gino and try and get some answers from him. Maybe it's just a big misunderstanding.

[Trisha]

Okay?

[Jeffrey]

Okay.

[Brooke]

Maybe he's away on business or something and hasn't told you.

[Jeffrey]

Getting his nose reconstructed after you shattered it into little pieces. No, he didn't shatter it. Didn't even bleed.

[Brooke]

Rhinoplasty, I've heard. Takes a while to come back from.

[Jeffrey]

So maybe he's just trying to get himself pretty again for you. Let's see what he has to say. Here we go.

[I]

Hello?

[Jeffrey]

Hey, is this Geno?

[I]

Yes, this is Geno. May I ask who's calling?

[Brooke]

Doesn't sound nasally.

[Jeffrey]

No, sounds pretty good. He's Gino. That would have been awful. We're radio show man. Let's call Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

[I]

Oh, that's. I mean, I've heard of you guys. That's kind of cool.

[Jeffrey]

I think it's cool that you've heard of us. We're doing something on our show called the second date Update. You know that? No.

[I]

Yeah, I mean, I. I've heard of that. I didn't.

[Jeffrey]

Okay.

[I]

I didn't actually think that happened. That's kind of interesting.

[Jeffrey]

You really do. This happens a lot. So you're the lucky guy that we're calling today. You recently went out with somebody named Tricia?

[I]

Oh, yeah.

[Brooke]

It was kind of a minute ago, right? Like a couple weeks ago?

[I]

Yeah, it's been about two and a half weeks.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

Okay. So you're one of those guys who likes to just take it slow.

[I]

Oh, I guess. I mean, you guys are asking about how the date went or.

[Brooke]

Well, it's just like, you know.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, Just. Just give us a nutshell. Like your take on that date. Big picture.

[I]

Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I got hit in the face with a. Like a basketball. But I'm not funny anymore.

[Brooke]

I don't mean to laugh.

[Jeffrey]

Was that good for you?

[Brooke]

Yeah. No, it wasn't, Jeff.

[I]

No.

[Brooke]

Was it embarrassing? I bet it was embarrassing.

[I]

I mean, I gotta say that the reason I'm not reaching out is because of, like, not the date, but because of, like, some of her texts after. They gave me some red flags.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, we didn't hear about any of the texts that you had. She just said you guys were kind of in spotty communication. Yeah. And you aren't responding to her.

[Brooke]

What'd she say? Was it clingy or something?

[I]

You can say that. Like, after I got home later that night, I got like a one sentence text that said, what's the best case scenario for us?

[Brooke]

Best case scenario?

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, like for your relationship? Is that what she's asking?

[I]

Yeah. And I was like, how do I answer this? I literally was like, football in the face and more drinks. I don't.

[Brooke]

Is that what you said? That's pretty funny. That's a fantastic response.

[I]

I was like, okay, maybe she's drunk or something, and that was that.

[Brooke]

Okay, but that's funny. But there was more than just that.

[I]

The thing is, the next day she texts me. It was like, if we got married someday, would you consider ditching your fantasy football league to spend time with me? It was something like that.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, and the immediate answer is no. Alexis, a fair question, right?

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

After our first date.

[Brooke]

I mean, it gives you a good gauge, I guess. You try to be nice. Was she trying to be funny?

[I]

I don't know. That was two serious questions. Like, that's a big picture question. That's two in a row.

[Jeffrey]

How did you respond to that one?

[Brooke]

I totally ditch my friends and my interests just for you.

[I]

You know, I just got to a point where I thought, okay, this is just a lot off of one date. I just. I don't want to be planning out my future with this person.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, that is a lot.

[Brooke]

It'd be a lot for anybody.

[Jeffrey]

It doesn't sound like you asked her any deep, introspective questions about her life. And now is actually your chance, Gino, because she's on the other line right now waiting to tell you what she wants out of your future together. Oh, this is gonna be cute.

[I]

Oh, great. So she planned this too? Of course she did. Oh, my God.

[Brooke]

This doesn't make it less intense.

[Jeffrey]

Her first question is, what would you do if I surprisingly put you on a radio show?

[Brooke]

Would you love me, Trisha?

[Jeffrey]

You there?

[Trisha]

I'm here.

[Jeffrey]

You know, you didn't mention any of those texts that you sent to him.

[Trisha]

Well, I didn't think that they were really, like, that important.

[Brooke]

Hearing what he just said, have you changed your mind about that?

[Trisha]

It's not an issue. It's like. I would like to know. I am a planner.

[Jeffrey]

I could understand you wanting to, like, plan out your week or your month. Thank you. Planning out your entire rest of your life. That's a lot to ask a guy after one date.

[Trisha]

No, we're not getting any younger. And my deal is I'm not even gonna bother wasting a minute. He's not going to tell me, honestly what's going on with us, or I'm not going to waste a minute if he's going to be like, no, I'm totally keeping my fantasy football. And then I lose him, like, every Friday night. No, I don't think so.

[Brooke]

It's actually really Friday. Give up his stuff for you, Gino.

[Jeffrey]

We don't know that. Gino, are you willing to give up your stuff? Come on.

[I]

I mean, like I said, this is one day. Like, I have to go on a few more days. Like, you can't. You can't just corner someone like that. I don't think anybody's gonna.

[Trisha]

That could have been your answer to the first question I asked you. What's the best case scenario? Okay, maybe. Yeah, let's go out a few more times. Okay, maybe that wouldn't have led me to the next question. You thinking me, I'm. That I'm so psycho or something.

[Brooke]

Okay, but he.

[I]

I don't think you're psycho. I just. I just. I did remember another thing you asked, which is, would your parents ever let us stay in their house so we can save for our future? That was like another one moving in with their parents.

[Jeffrey]

That's kind of a sweet little image.

[I]

But she hadn't met my parents, and I hadn't met her parents or anything.

[Jeffrey]

Well, yeah, because you're being selfish and you're keeping them all to yourself. You should spread the wealth of this wonderful family that you have.

[Trisha]

You also said you had 50 people in there, so it was big enough for all of us.

[Brooke]

Oh, wait, you actually responded that it was okay?

[I]

I didn't. I didn't respond. I just.

[Trisha]

I already told you guys. And we talked about this. He told me about an anniversary party for his parents where he had 50 people.

[Brooke]

And your first thought was, I can move in with my future in law. Must be a nice house.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, I mean, she's a planner. She's got a plan ahead for every bad case scenario that might play out.

[Brooke]

Trisha, it's just a little too much. You know, I know you want to know everything right now, but there's just no way to know.

[Trisha]

I made it this far in life with knowing everything, and I think I'm going to be fine. You know what I mean? I'll be fine without him. But he could have just been honest and said, hey, a few more dates, and I would been like, okay. And then I would have chilled out. But then it led me into this big spiral of wanting to know more and more and more.

[Jeffrey]

Gina, we could just move this whole thing over if you're just willing to admit right now it was all your fault. Go ahead. I see that coming.

[I]

Yes. This is all my fault.

[Brooke]

Great.

[Jeffrey]

Okay. Now let's move forward. And since Trisha is such a planner, I would love to help her plan your next date, which we will pay for out of the generosity of our hearts.

[Brooke]

Are we asking Gino or are you asking Trisha?

[Jeffrey]

Well, actually, that's a good point. I should ask Trisha for permission. Trisha, is it okay if I co plan your next date with you?

[Trisha]

It is fine with me for you to co plan. Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Okay. Sounds like she's still up for it. So, Gino, would you like to meet up with Trisha one more time on our bill? Your future bride wants to know.

[Brooke]

Oh, yeah. Oh, wow.

[I]

Yes. If. If we can just kind of take it a little slower what you're saying.

[Trisha]

Yes.

[I]

Yeah, I mean, like I said, I. I had a fun time. I just. If you're really serious about just moving really fast, that's not me. But if you're willing to just, like, go out and have fun, then I'm down to go out for another day.

[Brooke]

Yeah, but what we never heard was about that fant league willing to give it up.

[Jeffrey]

This is a good start to the communication. A little bit of honesty and transparency. There we go. I mean, it never happens on our show. I'm proud of us.

[Brooke]

I don't know if I like it.

[Jeffrey]

I know.

[Heather Dubrow]

Overwhelming.

[Jeffrey]

It does feel kind of ick to be this honest, but it's what she wants. Shocking.

[Brooke]

Is that okay with you, Trisha? To move slower?

[Trisha]

Yeah, I promise I'll slow it down. I won't ask any future questions, like about our children's names or anything. I will. I will reel it in.

[Brooke]

Yeah, because you already have those planned out, and he doesn't really get a say anyway.

[Trisha]

I do. Yeah.

[I]

Yeah. There we go again.

[Jeffrey]

Welcome to the rest of your life, Gino.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Trisha]

Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning, in.

[Brooke]

The middle of the night, Saskia awoke in a haze. Her husband Mike was on his laptop. What was on his screen would change Saskia's life forever.

[Trisha]

I said, I need you to tell me exactly what you're doing. And immediately, the mask came off.

[Mandy B]

You're supposed to be safe.

[Trisha]

That's your home. That's your husband.

[Brooke]

To keep this secret for so many years, he's like a seasoned pro. This is a story about the end of a marriage, but it's also the story of one woman who was done living in the dark.

[Trisha]

You're a dangerous person who preys on.

[Jeffrey]

Vulnerable and trusting people.

[Trisha]

You're a predator. Michael Levengood.

[Brooke]

Listen to Betrayal Season 5 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Ryder Strong]

This is Ryder Strong, and I have a new podcast called the Red Weather.

[Trisha]

It was many and many a year ago in a kingdom by the sea.

[Ryder Strong]

In 1995, my neighbor Anna Trainor disappeared from a commune. It was hard to wrap your head around. It was nature and trees and praying and drugs.

[Jeffrey]

So, no, I am not your guru.

[Ryder Strong]

And back then, I lied to my parents, I lied to police. I lied to everybody.

[Jeffrey]

There were years, Ryder, where I could.

[Narrator (Charlie’s Place)]

Not say your name.

[Ryder Strong]

I've decided to go back to my hometown in Northern California, interview my friends, family, talk to police, journalists, whomever I can to try to find out what actually happened.

[Jeffrey]

Isn't it a little bit weird that they obsess over hippies in the woods and not the obvious boyfriend?

[Brooke]

They have had this case for 30 years.

[Jeffrey]

I'll teach you sons of come around here in my white. Boom, boom.

[Ryder Strong]

This is the red weather. Listen to the red Weather on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Jeffrey]

Brooke, I'm just gonna ask.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

Where do you see the show going?

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Like, what's the best case scenario for us here?

[Brooke]

I feel like it's too soon to ask, and that makes me feel kind of uncomfortable. I mean, we've only been together for over a decade, and I'm not ready for this level of commitment.

[Jeffrey]

Well, I'm gonna tell you, I'm scared, because from what I just heard, I don't think we're heading to a very good place.

[Brooke]

What?

[Narrator (Charlie’s Place)]

They.

[Brooke]

They're going out again? Jeffrey.

[Jeffrey]

Exactly. Suddenly we have people on the phone communicating and listening to each other, taking a breath and respecting boundaries.

[Brooke]

Too healthy. Too healthy. Gross. No, not very Funny. I will say that.

[Jeffrey]

We got to get cringe. We need to get this train back on track.

[Brooke]

Okay, so if your life is a wreck, that's who we need to have.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. If you want to scream, cry at someone for taking a crouton off of your salad without asking first. You're just the type of person we need. Email the show and help us write this sinking ship. We'll call the person who isn't calling you back.

[Mandy B]

Over the last couple years, didn't we learn that the folding chair was invented by black people because of what happened in Alabama? This Black History Month, the podcast Selective Ignorance with Mandy B Unpacks black history and culture with comedy, clarity, and conversations that shake the status quo. The Crown act in New York was signed in July of 2019, and that is a bill that was passed to prohibit discrimination based on hairstyles associated with race. To hear this and more, listen to Selective Ignorance with Mandy B. From the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Ryder Strong]

This is Ryder Strong, and I have a new podcast called the red weather. In 1995, my neighbor Anna Trainor disappeared from a commune. It was nature and trees and praying and drugs.

[Jeffrey]

So, no, I am not your guru.

[Ryder Strong]

And back then, I lied to everybody.

[Brooke]

They have had this case for 30 years.

[Ryder Strong]

I'm going back to my hometown to uncover the truth. Listen to the Red Weather on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Narrator (Charlie’s Place)]

When segregation was a law, one mysterious black club owner Charlie Fitzgerald had his own rules.

[Brooke]

Segregation in the day, integration at night.

[Jeffrey]

It was like stepping in another world.

[Narrator (Charlie’s Place)]

Was he a businessman? A criminal? A hero?

[Jeffrey]

Charlie was an example of power. They had to crush Charlie's place from.

[Narrator (Charlie’s Place)]

Atlas Obscura and visit Myrtle Beach. Listen to Charlie's place on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Roald Dahl Podcast Host]

You know, Roald Dahl, he thought up Willy Wonka in the bfg. But did you know he was a spy? In the new podcast, the Secret World of Roald Dahl, I'll tell you that story and much, much more.

[Brooke]

What?

[Roald Dahl Podcast Host]

You probably won't believe it either.

[Brooke]

Was this before you wrote his stories.

[Trisha]

It must have been Okay, I don't think that's true.

[Jeffrey]

I'm telling you, the guy was a spy.

[Roald Dahl Podcast Host]

Listen to the Secret World of Roald Dahl on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Heather Dubrow]

Almost 30 years together, four kids and some of reality TV's most unforgettable moments. We're taking you behind the scenes in our podcast between us with me, Heather.

[Jeffrey]

Dubrow, and me, Terry debrow.

[Heather Dubrow]

The unfiltered behind closed doors conversations you wish you could eavesdrop on, and plenty.

[Jeffrey]

Of did they just say that? Moments. But what's the latest rumor? I'm gay, right? First of all, if I were gay, I would be gay.

[Heather Dubrow]

Open your free iHeartRadio app, search between us and listen now.