Second Date Update Classic: Eyes Closed Mouth Open

Summary

Podcast Summary: Brooke and Jeffrey – Second Date Update Classic: Eyes Closed Mouth Open

Release Date: January 7, 2026
Episode Theme:
A man, Lawrence, gets ghosted after a first date and enlists the Brooke & Jeffrey team to call his date, April, and uncover the real reason she didn’t call back. As always with “Second Date Update,” the premise is to confront the “ghoster” in a humorous, drama-filled live call, hoping to secure a second date despite a historically low success rate but high entertainment value.

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Episode Overview

This “classic” Second Date Update unpacks how exhaustion, poor timing, and a literal case of falling asleep can derail romantic prospects. The episode is lively, self-deprecating, and filled with both awkward confessions from the unlucky-in-love Lawrence, and the panel’s witty banter. The revelation involves a “mid-kiss nap” — making for one of the more memorable Second Date Update scenarios.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Setup: Lawrence’s Rough Return (00:49–03:38)

• Lawrence recounts his ill-fated date: Recently back from a wild bachelor party in Vegas, followed by a sleepless night obsessing over his fantasy baseball lineup. He admits he showed up to his date with only a “20 out of 100” for energy.
• The panel humorously skewers Lawrence for scheduling a date right after such an exhausting trip:
  • Brooke (A): “Why would you schedule a date after a bachelor party?” (02:17)
• Lawrence tries to justify his choices, saying he didn’t want to miss his shot with April and purposefully picked a lively bowling alley to mask his fatigue.

2. The Date: Good Intentions, Bad Execution (03:38–06:08)

• Lawrence describes the date as fun but blurry. He barely remembers conversation details due to tiredness but notes April wanted to keep the evening going:
  • Lawrence (E): “As she was leaving... she was like, do you want to get another drink somewhere else?” (04:53)
• Even after the first venue (bowling), they head to a bourbon bar—a choice instigated by April.
• He tries to “power through,” thinking things are going well, but is clearly not at his best.

3. The Fallout: No Response from April (06:09–07:00)

• Lawrence texts April the next day but gets no reply, prompting him to reach out to Brooke & Jeffrey for help.
• The hosts tease Lawrence for his misfortunes and self-pity, pushing him to own up to his choices:
  • Brooke (A): “Those are your choices and you made bad ones, and that’s fine.” (08:37)

4. Calling April: The Real Reason Revealed (09:31–12:53)

• April hops on the line and is cautious but open, describing most of the date as “mostly fine.”
• The “unrecoverable moment” of the night is revealed when April recounts that at the end of the date, as she leans in for a kiss, Lawrence appears “polite” but is unresponsive—because he’s literally asleep, leaning against her car:
  • April (F): “When I open my eyes, I realized that he’s sleeping. He has fallen asleep.” (12:21)
  • Panel: “Wait, what? Standing up?” (A, 12:29); “He fell asleep mid-kiss.” (B, 12:35)
• April describes waking him: “I was like, dude are you asleep? And he just kind of like opened his eyes and laughed a little bit and was like, okay, see ya.” (12:46)

5. Lawrence’s Reaction: Surprised and Embarrassed (12:57–14:10)

• Lawrence hadn’t even realized the “kiss” happened—he thought it was a long hug:
  • Lawrence (E): "Because I thought it was a super long hug. I don't know." (13:26)
• Forced to explain, Lawrence finally admits to how exhausted he was from the bachelor party and fantasy baseball all-nighter, but insists he truly liked April and wanted the date to work.
• April pokes fun at his priorities:
  • April (F): “It sounds like he’s super responsible. I mean, fantasy baseball, priorities!” (14:22)

6. Resolution: Second Chances and Reluctant Agreement (14:47–16:21)

• The panel tries to spin Lawrence’s perseverance as “romantic,” emphasizing he cared enough to fight through exhaustion.
• April says she might consider a second date if Lawrence promises to sleep—and not tell anyone about the disastrous first-kiss nap (apart from everyone listening to the show):
  • April (F): “Can you promise that you’re going to get a full night’s sleep and never, ever tell anybody besides everybody that’s listening to this show...?” (16:00)
• Lawrence promises, and April agrees to go out again—as long as she pays for nothing this time.
  • April (F): “But I’m not paying for a single thing. Not one single thing.” (16:17)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Lawrence (E): “I just remember being really tired and not being my best.” (04:30)
• April (F): “And then I open my eyes... I realized he’s sleeping. He has fallen asleep.” (12:21)
• Panel, in disbelief: “He fell asleep mid-kiss.” (B, 12:35)
• April (F): “You don’t remember the kiss. You definitely don’t get to count it. No, you’re not getting points for that at all.” (14:54)
• Lawrence (E): “At that point, I was the dead person, but the next time I’ll be fully alive.” (15:08)
• Panel, joking about Lawrence’s future: “I hope it’s not just the first kiss. I hope they hit all of the major dating milestones while he’s asleep.” (B, 17:02)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:49–03:38: Lawrence explains being exhausted and why he went on the date anyway
• 04:38–05:24: April wants to continue the date, leading to the second bar
• 06:09–07:00: Lawrence realizes he's ghosted, asks for help
• 09:31–11:07: April joins the call, recounts a “mostly fine” night
• 12:21–12:46: April describes Lawrence falling asleep mid-kiss
• 13:26–14:10: Lawrence reacts to the revelation—didn’t know the kiss happened
• 14:22–16:21: April and Lawrence reach a deal for a second (fully-awake) date

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Tone & Takeaways

This classic Second Date Update keeps up the series’ playful, irreverent tone. The hosts balance empathy with teasing, especially as Lawrence’s misadventures unravel. The memorable (and now infamous) “sleeping kiss” provides both comedic gold and a rare scenario even Second Date Update hadn’t tackled before.

Final Sentiment:
Despite the embarrassing turn, Lawrence’s candor—and willingness to laugh at himself—helps win April over, setting up one of the more unlikely second dates in the show’s history. The message: Sometimes the worst first impression still gets a second chance, especially if you own it (and promise to get some sleep).

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Transcript

[A]

All right, we hear you. We're listening. And I promise, tomorrow starts our brand new episodes for the second date podcast, Pinky Promise. Yes, Pinky Promise. We're so excited. It is definitely drama filled, so you're not going to want to miss it. And today we just got a classic for you to enjoy. All right, before we get to it, comments. Alexis.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Tyron Banks said, when I go fishing and don't catch anything for a while, I put on this podcast. And then a fish bites as soon as I put it on like a jean. We help, I guess. Everybody cast your polls. I don't know the saying.

[A]

There we go.

[D]

We know Jeff's really into birds. Maybe he's talking to fish subliminally.

[A]

I like it. That was my fish face.

[C]

Oh, you're talking to them.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Let's start this, please.

[A]

That's what I said in fish. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update.

[B]

Here's a dilemma you might face in the dating world. Let's say you have a hot date scheduled, okay? But the day of, you are just out of it. Whether you're sick or you're jet lagged or just depressed because of what happened on Love island earlier, whatever it is, you know, you're not in the best shape. Do you cancel? You reschedule. Do you ask a friend to sub in that night for you?

[A]

Is that option?

[B]

There's a lot of things you could.

[D]

Do, but guess you're good for me, bro. Yeah, you know, I wasn't.

[B]

But I bring it up because one of our listeners knew he was wasn't in peak form for date night, and now he needs our help. His name is Lawrence. So, Lawrence, welcome to the show.

[E]

Hey, thanks for having me.

[A]

Yeah, zero to 100. Where are you at right now?

[E]

Oh, I'm like 20. I don't know, 19.

[A]

Oh, you're still off.

[E]

Oh, wow.

[B]

Wow. Most people don't. Brooke doesn't normally ask people to rate themselves on attractiveness. On a scale of 1 to 100. You know, Brooke wants to know.

[A]

It was like, how he was feeling.

[B]

J.

[A]

Okay, okay.

[D]

Before we move, on a scale of 1 to 10,000.

[B]

All right, enough with the rating scales. Tell us. You said in your email that you knew you weren't in the best form the night of your day. Why did you say that?

[E]

So the day before, I had gotten back from this bachelor party in Vegas and it was crazy.

[A]

Oh, no, you were hung.

[C]

You were hungover. I feel way less bad now.

[A]

Yeah, that is true. I'm sorry.

[C]

This is different.

[A]

Why would you schedule a date the day after a bachelor party?

[E]

Yeah, I really thought this girl was. And I thought it was my only shot, really. Just wanted to meet her, where she was at.

[A]

And you were gonna be a responsible guy at that bachelor party in Vegas.

[E]

That was the plan, but obviously I didn't follow through.

[C]

This is like when you have a Pilates class the morning after a night out. You know, you're like, I'm gonna make it.

[A]

So there's more at stake when it comes to a date.

[C]

Those classes are expensive to cancel.

[B]

But at the same time, if you feel like this is my one chance to. To actually go out with this really cool person, you're not gonna skip or, like, pass on it. You're gonna do whatever it takes.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

So I. I get why you would go out with her, but the Vegas thing from the night before. You were sleep deprived. That's what you were trying to tell us.

[E]

On top of forever to get a ride home from the airport. When I finally get home, I ended up staying up editing my fantasy baseball lineup, which was not a good choice.

[D]

Hey, dude. You know, I just had one, too, so I don't blame him at all. Guys, it takes an hour to edit your lineup.

[A]

The sympathy I had is gone now. Je up.

[C]

Like you were going to get really sick or something out of your control happen.

[D]

Food poisoning.

[A]

He stayed up all night.

[B]

Do we know maybe he was sick on top of all of this.

[E]

Look, I came in last place last year. That can't happen again, okay?

[A]

The girls are.

[B]

You can understand.

[A]

This is so dumb.

[E]

And then I finally get to sleep, and my dog woke me up in the middle of the night for no reason.

[B]

Okay, people that complain, tell us, what did you do with April? What was your date idea?

[E]

I ended up taking her to a bowling alley. I did it on purpose because it was noisy and, you know, I wanted to get some of my energy up, and I took some of the focus off of me.

[D]

Okay, wouldn't that suck?

[A]

I mean, the thing is, you can have a couple beers, feel a little bit better. I mean, I give your thought. You know, like, you don't have to be the entertainment because you're not up for that. Right?

[E]

Exactly.

[A]

You know, as soon as she turns around to throw a strike, you could just take a little nap.

[B]

So tell us, how was the vibe between you and April?

[E]

It was good. If I remembered anything that she said or, like, anything besides the inside of my eyelids.

[A]

Okay, anytime someone says it was good, but I don't remember anything she said.

[E]

I'm exaggerating a little bit. I remember some of it, but I just remember being really tired and not being my best.

[A]

Okay, what do you remember?

[D]

Kind of spacing out a little.

[E]

I remember we ended up having some greasy food, had some laughs, and then after that, we left, and I was walking out of the bowling alley, and as she was leaving, I guess she thought I was funny or something. So she was like, do you want to get another drink somewhere else?

[B]

Okay, that's a good sign.

[A]

That's a great sign.

[E]

And my mouth said, yes, but my body was like, hell, no.

[D]

She could just tell.

[B]

Yeah, my mouth does stuff that my brain never agrees to all the time. So. I see where you're coming from. I know, but, you know, it's life. Okay, so now you're going out for another drink, even though you don't really feel up for it, or did you go home?

[E]

Yeah, no, we went out for another drink. We went to this cute little bourbon bar that she'd been dying to go to, and we had a couple more drinks.

[A]

Is this a moment of regret? Like, things had gone well? You should have just chopped it up to a victory.

[E]

Yeah, that would have been smart. I just wanted to do anything that she suggested because she was so cute.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Did she know you were at a bachelor party the night before?

[E]

No, I didn't tell her that because I didn't want her to get the wrong idea about what we were doing there.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[D]

Sound a little.

[A]

Why would that be the wrong. I don't get it.

[E]

It was chill. We just played topgolf and drank.

[B]

But sure you did.

[E]

Honestly, that's not what people think of when they say bachelor party. Right?

[B]

Yeah. Lots of glitter at those topgolf places. It gets on your neck and on your clothes. Oh, he likes that. He's really tired, so he thinks I'm fine.

[D]

He's tired.

[B]

Anyway, let's fast forward to the end when you and April left from each other. How did that go?

[E]

So we were leaving the little bourbon bar, and I walked her to her car, and we had a nice hug, and that felt good. And then I went home and I slept for 15 hours.

[D]

Oh, my gosh.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

God, that type of sleep feels so good.

[D]

Yeah, it really.

[E]

Yeah, it felt so good. But then when I woke up and I texted her, she didn't answer. And then she hasn't answered me since.

[A]

Okay.

[E]

That's why I contacted you guys, so you can call her and find out what's up.

[A]

Okay. And she hasn't even gotten the Full you, you know, like if she liked and enjoyed the night that night when you're on, it's going to be great.

[B]

Yeah, let's do that for you. We're going to reach out to April. You get about three minutes to take a quick nap. So you're at 100%. When we come back, everybody.

[D]

The listeners do.

[B]

Yeah, we'll all do it. And then full energy for our second date update when we continue right after this. Hold on.

[A]

Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update.

[B]

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[A]

That, you know, you should send that to the sales department. I'm sure that they will be on it on the phone with Holy Sheets as we.

[B]

They really should. Second day update was built for a mattress store sponsor, but if you missed it, our list. Lawrence was dead tired going into his date night with April after his bachelor party experience. But he powered through. And the hangout at the bowling alley in the Bourbon Bar was fun, at least the parts that he can remember from that. But we're gonna try and step up and save it for him.

[E]

Here's the deal, guys. April, super cute. I don't know if I did something wrong or she got back together with, like, an ex or something.

[A]

Okay, I don't think that's it, my man. I mean, you jumped right there. I. I think that maybe a good area of growth for. For you would be maybe admitting when you made a mistake.

[B]

It's a second date update, not a therapy.

[A]

Well, I'm just saying you played victim a lot to those fantasy baseball teams. Victim to the bachelor party.

[C]

Nothing is more unattractive than someone playing victim to stuff like that. Yes, I am with you there.

[A]

Like, those are your choices and you made bad ones, and that's fine.

[E]

And maybe I made a bad decision coming to this. I don't need to hear this from my mom.

[A]

Slow it down. You asked my thoughts, and that was my honest thought.

[B]

Well, maybe you can sugarcoat them a little bit for lovely listeners.

[A]

If people want advice, they need to be open to criticism.

[D]

Anyone that comes on our show does know.

[B]

All right?

[E]

You know, bottom line, I don't think she knew I was tired. I think it's something else. Something else I did wrong.

[B]

Really? Okay, there we go.

[A]

All right. And that's being open. And I appreciate there's other options, the.

[B]

Optimism that we've been waiting for for the first three minutes. Now, let's just dial your date, April. We'll see if she answers, and hopefully we can get some information out of her. Here we go. Great. Dialing it right now.

[F]

Hello?

[B]

Hey, is this April?

[F]

This is she. Who's this?

[B]

Hey, April. We're actually an entire morning radio show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.

[A]

Welcome to the show, April.

[D]

Good morning.

[F]

Hi. Am I on the air right now?

[B]

You sure are. With the most positive and optimistic, uplifting show that you will ever talk to.

[A]

Yeah, that's what we're known for.

[B]

It is.

[F]

Okay, what's going on? What is this?

[B]

Well, this is a segment that we do called Second Date Update. I don't know if you've ever heard of that before, but basically it's where we try to help our listeners get back in touch with somebody after going on a great first date with them.

[A]

Why'd you laugh?

[D]

It's not necessarily great.

[A]

Well, I mean, we hope that it's great.

[F]

Right?

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Sorry, Yeah. I didn't say who you went out with the other night. It's one of our friends named Lawrence.

[F]

Ah, okay.

[A]

Right. You guys went bowling. Ooh, fun, right?

[B]

She means that not sarcastically in any way.

[A]

I didn't actually mean sarcasm, though, at all.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

It sounded like a fun night.

[B]

We're wondering to get your perspective on how the whole evening went.

[F]

It was fine. It was mostly fine.

[A]

Mostly fine.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Mostly fine. Like, I'm planning on calling him back.

[F]

I mean, I don't know. I just. I'm mostly like. This is kind of strange to be, like, blasting out on the radio. You know what I mean?

[B]

Totally.

[D]

Yeah, we get that.

[B]

Yeah. And all we're really looking for is to help out Lawrence because he is a little bit confused.

[F]

Okay. Well, I mean, look, most of the date was positive. He's a fun guy. He's cute.

[D]

Good.

[B]

Okay.

[F]

But I mean, I'm surprised that he doesn't know. Like, I mean, I think there was a point where we kind of. At least I definitely couldn't. And I thought he probably also felt we could not come back from, uh.

[A]

Oh, it's never good when someone says us. Yeah, you can't come back from.

[B]

Could you tell us more about that?

[F]

It's pretty bad.

[A]

Uh.

[D]

Oh, no. I say, oh, no.

[A]

Cause I don't know if he knows.

[B]

Yeah.

[F]

All right, well, we went out to, you know, whatever. We were out for the whole night. And he walks me to my car.

[A]

Okay, so this is the very, very end of the evening.

[F]

It's the very end of the evening. And I, like, things had gone well. We were certainly flirty.

[A]

And at that point, were you hoping for a kiss or how?

[F]

Well, that's the vibe I was getting for sure. And then we get to my car and he just kind of stands there and I'm like, okay, I'll make the first move. I lean in to kiss him, and he was very like, what I thought was polite, like, just like being very gentle. And he's just kind of like not really doing too much with the kissing. And then it's kind of just like not much is happening at all.

[B]

He's a bad kiss.

[F]

And then I open my eyes. Oh, yeah, you could say that. Because when I open my eyes, I realized that he's sleeping. He has fallen asleep.

[A]

Wait, what? Standing up?

[F]

I mean, he was kind of leaning against my car, but he was out.

[B]

He fell asleep mid kiss.

[D]

Who's a bad kiss, him or you?

[B]

It doesn't feel good.

[A]

Does not feel good.

[C]

Let's not focus a lot.

[B]

Okay?

[A]

When did he wake up?

[F]

When I was like, dude, are you asleep? And then he just kind of like opened his eyes and laughed a little bit and was like, okay, see ya.

[B]

Oh, God.

[F]

I don't know if. Hey, a palm.

[E]

This is a little awkward, but are you sure? We kissed.

[B]

Oh, shit. Okay.

[D]

Yeah, I thought it was just like.

[E]

A super long wait.

[F]

Is that him?

[B]

Yeah, sorry.

[F]

Is he on his call?

[B]

The way the segment works is we have the other person waiting on hold on the other line to talk to you. And normally we call them in, but.

[F]

Oh.

[B]

I think he felt like he had to say something.

[F]

Lawrence, are you joking me right now? He's been listening this whole time.

[A]

He needed to hear it. He really did.

[B]

He doesn't even remember kissing you. Yeah. Lawrence, you didn't bring up anything about a first kiss when we talked to you.

[E]

Because I thought it was a super long hug. I don't know.

[F]

My God. This is exactly. This is exactly what I'm talking about. This is humiliating.

[A]

No, don't. It's embarrassing to him, not to you.

[C]

It's actually impressive.

[A]

Yeah. Lawrence, you've got to explain.

[C]

Explain to her.

[E]

Oh, oh. Here's what you don't know. Okay?

[A]

Oh, God.

[E]

I went to a bachelor party the night before in Vegas. And then when I got back, finally, I was up until like four in the morning editing My fantasy baseball.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[E]

I didn't really get a lot of rest the night before, but.

[B]

Okay.

[E]

I just thought you were so cute and funny, and I just wanted to power through because I really like you, and I'm sorry and.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Okay.

[E]

It wasn't my best. And I wrap it up.

[B]

All right. That was a lot. I wasn't expecting you to say that much, but, April, do you hear what he's saying? He was exhausted from a long trip before.

[F]

Yeah, I mean, I'm hearing him. It sounds like he's super responsible. I mean, fantasy baseball, priorities. No, I get it.

[A]

Well, he showed up.

[D]

Yeah, that's true.

[B]

It was so important for him to meet you that despite how tired he was, he was willing to do this anyway.

[D]

That's a good angle.

[A]

No, if we can say, spin it that way. I mean, I think more is that he made a mistake and he would love a redo. Right. Because he knows he screwed it up.

[E]

Well, I did kiss her, which is better than I thought. So I didn't really screw that.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, 99% of the date was awesome.

[F]

You don't remember the kiss. You definitely don't get to count it. No, you're not getting, like, points for that at all.

[A]

She said you were a bad kisser.

[C]

Dude, because you're basically, like, kissing a dead person.

[E]

Well, you weren't moving.

[B]

She was the one who initiated the kiss.

[E]

At that point, I was the dead person, but the next time, I be fully alive.

[F]

I mean, he did have pretty nice.

[B]

Lips, but still, you did stick around for a very long time with a very tired man. Just imagine how great he's going to be when he's fully rested at 100%.

[A]

I actually agree with Jeff on that. I mean, like, you wanted that kiss at the end of the night. I mean, sure, it was the death of the date, but if you could redo it, it may be great.

[B]

I bet on the next date, he'll even let you change his fantasy baseball lineup for him.

[D]

That is not cool.

[A]

Don't you. I don't mean she wants. She doesn't want that.

[B]

Okay. You know, okay, maybe that's date three material, but we are interested in date number two. April, he's not lying. We really want you to go out with him again. And we'll pay for it if you say yes.

[F]

I mean, can you promise that you're going to get a full night's sleep and, like, never, ever tell anybody besides everybody that's listening to this show that you fell asleep during our first kiss?

[A]

Would be a great story at a wedding, though.

[E]

I will not do that again.

[B]

All right? The promise is there, April.

[F]

All right, But I'm not paying for a single thing. Not one single thing.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

You're like all the women that we have on this show. Congratulations, you two. You're going out again. Yay. Awesome. Alexis, do you approve of this couple? You shipped them.

[A]

They're cute. You would like a wreck like him. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

[B]

Against all odds. It's another successful second date update. They're actually going out again.

[A]

Who knew you could fall asleep mid kiss? And it's still cool.

[B]

It's actually pretty impressive. And my wish for them is I hope it's not just the first kiss. I hope they hit all of the major dating milestones while he's asleep.

[A]

Yeah, like mid proposal even.

[B]

Yeah. Meets her parents asleep. The first I love you is while he's dozing off. They get engaged mid nap just signing.

[D]

The paperwork on their first home.

[A]

Well, I'm sure they're going to go back and listen to this in podcast form and fall asleep mid second date.

[B]

You are inspirations to all of us and all of our listeners. YouTube. Best of luck in the future of your dating life. And if you need some help in your personal dating life, you can always email our show. We won't fall asleep. We will stay awake to call that person who's not calling you back. And you go check out all of our second date updates wherever you get your podcasts at, Brooke and Jeffrey. Also go check them out on YouTube.