Second Date Update Classic: Hot Date Hack

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update Classic - "Hot Date Hack" (October 10, 2025)

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Overview: Episode Theme

This episode of Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update dives into the wild world of online dating, exploring the unusual "hot date hack" one listener claims guarantees attractive matches. The show follows Blaine, a self-identified "soft seven," who used a viral social media theory to land a date with Delilah. The hosts, with their trademark blend of humor, skepticism, and empathy, unravel the events that led to Blaine being ghosted and attempt to facilitate truth, reconciliation, and maybe a second date.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Viral Dating “Hack” Explained [05:05–08:15]

• Blaine's Theory: Blaine claims he found a hack on social media: “All the most attractive people in the world are born on the 5th, 14th, or 23rd of the month.”

  • “I started typing in the dates, and I would kind of look and see the pictures that came up on my suggested page, and if any of them were obvious, like, birthday posts.” (Blaine, 06:35–06:45)

• Implementation: He searches through Instagram and Facebook for women posting about these birthdays, then cold-messages 200+ people using a line about having a sister with the same birthday.

  • “It’s a numbers game. So I sent, like, 200 of these.” (Blaine, 07:39)

• Results: Most ignore him, 10-15 respond, and he lands one date with Delilah, who he finds especially attractive.

2. The First Date Recap [08:42–11:21]

• Meet and Greet: Blaine and Delilah meet for happy hour, Delilah brings a Starbucks gift card for Blaine’s (supposed) birthday-twin sister—a playful gesture.

  • “She was really cute, and she came in, and she brought a Starbucks gift card and was like, ‘Hey, give this to your sister because she's my birthday twin.’” (Blaine, 08:48)

• Guilt and Honesty: Blaine admits to feeling guilty about the lie regarding his sister’s birthday. He also confesses he may have gone overboard with compliments, telling Delilah she was pretty “six or seven times.”

• Aftermath: The date ends with a small kiss, but Delilah stops responding afterward.

3. Why Did Delilah Ghost Blaine? [12:29–19:48]

• The Confrontation: The hosts call Delilah on air; she’s friendly but sheepish.

• Delilah’s Secret: She admits she lied about her age on social media, posting that she was 32 when she’s actually 36.

  • “If I’m honest now...I stretched the truth about my age on my social media, and we were having such a great time, I felt a little guilty about being dishonest.” (Delilah, 14:11)
  • “My social media says that I'm 32. But I'm 36.” (Delilah, 15:05–15:10)

• Why Not Tell Blaine? She was embarrassed and thought it easier to disappear than admit the lie.

• Blaine’s Reaction: He says he doesn’t care about the age gap and reiterates how attracted he is.

  • “Age is just a number, you know? You look great. I honestly thought you look younger than 32, so...” (Blaine, 16:32)

• Blaine’s Secret Revealed: Blaine admits he lied about the birthday connection to start a conversation and details the viral hack and Facebook search.

  • “I kind of lied to you about my sister’s birthday and your birthday being the same, just because…” (Blaine, 17:26)
  • “Somebody said at one point that the most attractive people’s birthdays are the 5th, the 14th, and the 23rd. So I kind of did a Facebook search for people with those birthdays.” (Blaine, 18:21)

• Delilah’s Response: She is horrified, calling the tactic “creepy,” and jokes about wanting her gift card back.

4. Hosts Step In: Dating Ethics and Double Standards [19:25–24:24]

• Double Standard Noted: The hosts point out that both lied, but Delilah is far harsher on Blaine than herself.

  • “Coming from someone pretending to be a 32-year-old, that was an accident.” (Host, 19:50)
  • “It should have been even Stevens. ...There were equal lies. We're both honest. We talked it out.” (Host, 23:39)

• Second Date Offer: The show offers to pay for a second date. Delilah declines due to her dislike of dishonesty.

  • “I really hate dishonesty, so I’m going to have to pass.” (Delilah, 19:44)

• Humor and Reflection: Blaine jokes about messaging 200 more women; the hosts reflect on modern dating and how “half-truth is a whole lie.”

  • “That’s why I’m messaging 200 more later today.” (Blaine, 20:15)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Blaine on Dating Success Rate:
  • “I didn’t come up with the theory myself...It was definitely a lot of social media helped with it.” (Blaine, 05:21)
• On Compliments and Awkwardness:
  • “I complimented maybe too many times about how pretty she was. Like six or seven times.” (Blaine, 09:36)
• Delilah on Lying:
  • “I just felt really weird about it because he brought it up on the date and I didn’t correct him.” (Delilah, 14:54)
• Blaine’s Honesty:
  • “Age is just a number, you know? You look great.” (Blaine, 16:32)
  • “If somebody says you look 26, you're 26. I think that's how it should be.” (Blaine, 16:59)
• Delilah’s Playful Retort:
  • “So where’s my gift card? I want my gift card back.” (Delilah, 17:53)
• Blaine’s Takeaway:
  • “That’s why I’m messaging 200 more later today.” (Blaine, 20:15)
• Hosts’ Reflection:
  • “No successful relationship has ever started with total honesty.” (Host, 19:27)
  • “It makes you feel like a loser. Yeah, yeah, totally. ...It’s just how it is.” (Host, 24:01)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Dating hack explanation: [05:05–08:15]
• First date details and Blaine’s confession: [08:42–11:21]
• Delilah reveals her secret: [14:11–15:12]
• Blaine’s Facebook search strategy revealed: [17:13–18:31]
• Second date offer and Delilah’s refusal: [19:25–19:48]
• Hosts’ post-mortem and reflection: [23:09–24:24]

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Episode Tone & Takeaways

• Lighthearted & Candid — True to the show's brand, there’s a humorous, non-judgmental tone throughout, balanced by occasional genuine empathy for the awkwardness of modern dating.
• Judgment-Free Honesty — The hosts encourage truthfulness—even if that means exposing embarrassing details on air.
• Modern Romance Realism — Both the hosts and guests illustrate the messiness and vulnerability inherent in today’s dating landscape, especially with so much “creative outreach” and the pressure to appear perfect on social media.

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Conclusion: What Listeners Can Learn

This episode illustrates both the absurdity and relatability of modern dating: viral hacks, cringe-worthy outreach, white lies, and the anxiety of being yourself. While no second date materialized, listeners get plenty of laughs and poignant reminders about the value (and risk) of honesty, the persistence required for dating success, and the reality that sometimes, it just doesn’t work out—but at least you get a good story.

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Transcript

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

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[Host 2 (possibly Maggie Freeling or Stephanie Beatriz)]

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[Blaine (listener and guest)]

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[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

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[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

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[Delilah (date and guest)]

I quit.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

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[Host 2 (possibly Maggie Freeling or Stephanie Beatriz)]

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[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

To hear from you. Your thoughts, your question questions, your feelings about socks with sandals and we're ready to share some possibly questionable advice and hot takes.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

God that sucks so hard though.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

I'm so sorry.

[Delilah (date and guest)]

Can you out petty them?

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

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[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

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[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

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[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning and this is your second date podcast. But I don't wanna give any spoilers if you didn't listen to yesterday's episode. But I will say it sound like we got a lot of positive feedback about doing an awkward Thursday phone call. Yeah, we did. We got Hell yeah.

[Host 2 (possibly Maggie Freeling or Stephanie Beatriz)]

Screw loving dates.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

Give us more awkward. I'm so freaking happy. I'm constantly searching for old awkwards I haven't heard. Oh, people want more. Yeah, this one said I'm all for awkward Thursdays. Someone said Tuesdays and Thursdays are my longest days of college classes, so having them fits my routine better.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

So we add maybe an awkward Thursday.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

We tried it yesterday. All right, if you haven't heard it, go listen to yesterday's episode and then come right back here.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Would this funnier naturally. Thursday or Tuesdays?

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

Probably Thursday.

[Host 2 (possibly Maggie Freeling or Stephanie Beatriz)]

Well, his intro was good.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

I mean people said it was the best sound effect ever.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Such good imaging. It was so funny.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

That was fun. All right. All right, well go back and listen to that and then come right back here because we got a second date update that is starting for you right now.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Second date update. On a scale of 1 to 10, how attractive would you say I am? That's the question. I don't want any in this room to answer cuz I already know.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

I was gonna ask if you were talking when we had to rate you.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

I already know that I am an 8.352. That is.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

Is that your average very weird number.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

That's the number that my mom rated me at our last Thanksgiving dinner.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

Gave you an 8.32.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Well, she's honest and I like that she said she didn't like that my teeth weren't straight enough.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

Oh yeah, you didn't follow up with a retainer after she paid for break.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Something about me isn't straight enough and she doesn't like it.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

Oh my.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

I can't remember. Anyway, it's always interesting though to rate your. Personally I'd rate me a soft seven and that's me being extra generous to myself there.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

That's like on a good day.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Yeah, so numbers are gonna fluctuate based on the eye of the beholder. But what if you had a hack that could guarantee the next person you go out with is definitely up to your attraction standards?

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

Really? There's a hack for that?

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Apparently, because one of our listeners, Blaine, says he figured out that hack, and we all need to learn it today. So, Blaine, welcome to the Seven and Under Club. Happy to have you. We're a bunch of soft sevens over here. How you doing, man? I'm good.

[Blaine (listener and guest)]

Happy to be here. Also, I can't say that I. I didn't come up with a theory myself. You know, like, it was definitely a lot of social media helped with it, so.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

Oh, okay.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

This is like a hack.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

Just take credit. We'll never know. That's really funny. What do you rate yourself, Blaine, before we go into your hack so we know what your level is?

[Blaine (listener and guest)]

I'm anywhere between, like, a zero to, like, a 10, you know, so somewhere.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

In there, the whole scale. Okay, what would your mom rating you? That's a better question.

[Blaine (listener and guest)]

My mom, she don't like me very much, so maybe like a three.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

Okay, so it must be hard to find someone up to your level then, Lane, if you don't really have a level.

[Blaine (listener and guest)]

I don't know. I guess I'm a little bit. I like to shoot out of my league a little bit. It's got to be seven and up.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Okay, good for you, man.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

Aim high.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Aim high. Yeah, I am super high. And that's why I've been single for, what, 10 years?

[Host 2 (possibly Maggie Freeling or Stephanie Beatriz)]

Yeah.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Eventually, one of these is gonna stick. So tell us, though, about this theory that you found online.

[Blaine (listener and guest)]

This thing said all the most attractive people in the world are born on the 5th, 14th, or 23rd of the month.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

I miss it by a day. Is anybody here?

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

I was supposed to be born on the 14th. Does that count? No.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

You baked for too long. I'm the 24th. I'm overcooked as well.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

Okay, so you're just looking at people's birthdays?

[Blaine (listener and guest)]

Yeah. So I started typing in the dates, and I would kind of look and see the pictures that came up on my, like, suggested page, and if any of them were obvious, like, birthday posts.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Where were you typing these in? On. On what suggested page?

[Blaine (listener and guest)]

On any social media? I tried it on a few different ones. You know, Instagram and Facebook.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Okay.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

Okay, so you just type in, like, let's say October 23rd, right?

[Blaine (listener and guest)]

Yeah.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

September 14th.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Right. Anything that falls in that.

[Blaine (listener and guest)]

And then you can click on photos, and if I, like, saw somebody with a Party hat or, like, something on. Then I would look at it and be like, happy Birthday.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

That makes sense, because it'd be like, you'd hashtag birthday, you know?

[Blaine (listener and guest)]

Yeah, exactly.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

And how was the talent on those dates?

[Blaine (listener and guest)]

Look, the scale was pretty right on. Like, it was. It was eights and tens all the way through.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Absolutely.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

Eights and tens.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

People when their birthdays are. Were you able to use that to your advantage in some way?

[Blaine (listener and guest)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I just kind of compile a list, and then I just copy and pasted, like, a generic DM that was like, hey, your profile popped up for me, and you had the same birthday as my sister. It's a numbers game. So I sent, like, 200 of these.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Oh, you got busy.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

That is a big net. So you are putting him.

[Blaine (listener and guest)]

Look, I've been striking out for a while, so, I mean, it's like, It's. Screw it, man. You got to cast a wide net.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

I like your honesty. I appreciate it.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Okay, how did you do with your 200 messages to beautiful women?

[Blaine (listener and guest)]

So 80% didn't say anything?

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

Oh, yeah. I actually thought that'd be higher, but.

[Blaine (listener and guest)]

I would say, like, 10 or 15 of them messaged back and said, omg, no way, small world, like, type of thing. And then I kind of looked in the ones that were really close to me, and there's one. Yeah. And I did get a date out of it, actually, with one that I really, really thought was cute the whole time.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

Okay, so wait, so we went from.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

200, the widest net I've ever heard, cast, and you narrowed it down to one girl and one date that happened.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

To be the cutest.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Oh, this is awesome.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

I feel like this is, like, sales cold calling is what it's like.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

He finally got a big client to respond, so. Sorry. I know you mentioned it. What was her name?

[Blaine (listener and guest)]

Delilah.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Delilah.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

Yeah.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Okay, everyone's gonna sing the song. And what did you and Delilah do for your meetup?

[Blaine (listener and guest)]

So, I mean, we DM'd for a little while, and then I finally asked her out to meet up for a happy hour at a bar.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

Okay.

[Blaine (listener and guest)]

She was really cute, and she came in, and she brought a Starbucks gift card and was like, hey, give this to your sister because she's my birthday twin.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

Did you feel guilty because you lied at that point?

[Blaine (listener and guest)]

I still feel real guilty. She still doesn't know that my sister's birthday is not the same as that. Oh, no, but, I mean, I looked at it. It was cute. It was only for, like, $10.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Oh, okay. So it Wasn't even really a very good birthday gift anyway. I mean, like, hey, I'm.

[Blaine (listener and guest)]

She doesn't even know my sister, you know?

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

All right.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

At least you have one, I guess.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Yeah. Okay.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

I don't know her birthday.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

That's a good start to the day. How did it go?

[Blaine (listener and guest)]

I thought it went really well, but there. I mean, there was a few things that I kind of have honed in on that my anxiety brain won't really let go.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

You're thinking something like you did was wrong?

[Blaine (listener and guest)]

I mean, I won't say wrong, but I think maybe it probably took her aback a little bit. I don't know. And maybe came on too strong because I complimented maybe too many times about how pretty she was. Like six or seven times.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

I don't know.

[Blaine (listener and guest)]

Like, I haven't been on a date with somebody that's attractive. And then, I don't know, I was a little drunk and feeling myself, so I was just kind of trying to be completely honest.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Hey, can we FaceTime all my friends real quick?

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

Yeah.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

I mean, as long as you left it at, like, you're so pretty and didn't elaborate all the details about why, then nothing might be safe.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

People love compliments, but there is a point where it's like, why are you so shocked? You know what I mean?

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Okay, so how did that date end?

[Blaine (listener and guest)]

Just a little kiss.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

Oh, that's good.

[Blaine (listener and guest)]

She went inside and I. I haven't heard from her.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

I mean, have you reached out at all?

[Blaine (listener and guest)]

Yeah. Share a text message. She hasn't responded yet.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Okay, well, maybe she found out your mom rated you a three and so then she lost interest. But we're gonna come back. We'll call Delilah for you and try and get you your second date update. Right after this second date update, we just learned about a brand new home hot dating hack from one of our listeners, Blaine, that made us all turn our heads and say, wow, this is groundbreaking. All the ground is literally cracking. I am never gonna look at the world the same ever again after this. Cause Blaine was not having success on the dating apps. And he saw a social media post saying all the most attractive people in the world were born on either the 5th, 14th, or 23rd of the month, whatever month that is. Weird. So he went online, put those dates into Facebook and Instagram, and if a photo of an attractive woman blowing out birthday candles came up, he made sure to reach out to her.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

I mean, honestly, every single woman he.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Saw, 200 messages at least were sent. And out of all those, a handful of conversations happened. And he ended up going out on a date with a woman named Delilah. And as far as we know, she has no clue. But maybe just knowing all of, like, the lengths that you went to in order to find her would actually impress her. Blaine, when does that story come out?

[Blaine (listener and guest)]

I think I'm gonna have to wait till she does something. We'll date for a while. She does something really bad, and then I'm like, oh, I forgive you.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

So toxic does something really bad. And you're like, I knew it. I knew when you were the only one out of 200 that messaged me back. What's wrong with you?

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Hold on to it. Come on. But we really don't know what the issue is. What's going on with her, why they're not hanging out. But we're about to find out here.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

That's the fun part. You ready for this, Blaine?

[Blaine (listener and guest)]

Yeah, I'm ready.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

We're gonna try our hardest here. Let's dial her number. Here we go.

[Blaine (listener and guest)]

Hello?

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Hey, we're looking for Delilah.

[Delilah (date and guest)]

This is she.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Hey, Delilah. Hope you're having a good day. That's about to get even better because you're on the radio right now with Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

Welcome to the show, Delilah. Oh, hey, guys. Oh, you know the show. Sweet.

[Delilah (date and guest)]

I don't, but it's cool to hear from you.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Oh, it would be cool to hear a radio station. Just call you in.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

Are you the. Are you this nice to, like, scammers.

[Delilah (date and guest)]

Who call, too sometimes?

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

Okay. She's like, I don't need a car warranty, but. But you sure.

[Host 2 (possibly Maggie Freeling or Stephanie Beatriz)]

Have a great day.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Give me your pitch. Let practice. Our friends and family aren't that nice to us when we call them, so this. Pleasure talking to you, but we do have a reason for calling because we're doing something called a second date update.

[Delilah (date and guest)]

Okay.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

That's where one of our listeners is trying to get a hold of you to hang out one more time. You've been out with him once. His name's Blaine.

[Delilah (date and guest)]

Oh, yeah.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

Oh, oh, yeah. You mean, oh, yeah, Blaine. You like Blaine?

[Delilah (date and guest)]

Blaine was really cool. We had a great time. We kind of met on social media.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Okay, and I'm gonna stop you real quick because we've actually spoken to Blaine before. We called you, and we kind of heard all the details about how you met and how you guys went out to a bar and you brought him, like, a cool Starbucks gift card for his sister.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

He thought that was really sweet.

[Delilah (date and guest)]

Yeah, we have the same birthday.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

You and his sister.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

You and his sister, right? Yeah. So the question that Blaine has that he's going through us, hoping to get some answers for is why are you not wanting to see him again if that's true?

[Delilah (date and guest)]

If I'm honest now, because I wasn't honest then. I stretched the truth about my age on my social media, and we were having such a great time, I felt a little guilty about being dishonest.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

Okay, okay. You know better.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

I think a lot of people stretch a little bit. Like, if you're 27, you'll say 25 or. Sure. But how. How much did you stretch the number by? That's a good. We going, like, three years or 40 years?

[Delilah (date and guest)]

About four years of stretching.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Four.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

Yeah. But you know what's interesting about that is he didn't notice at all, else he would have, like, brought that up to us. Like, you shouldn't, I don't think, feel bad. You know, four years isn't that big of a difference.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Not at all.

[Delilah (date and guest)]

No. But I just felt really weird about it because he bought it up on the date and it didn't correct him.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

Okay, so, like, he said, you're. I mean, what are you saying? You are on social media?

[Delilah (date and guest)]

Well, my social media says that I'm 32.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

Okay.

[Delilah (date and guest)]

But I'm 36.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

Okay.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Okay. Okay.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

And can I just ask why? Why do you lie about it?

[Delilah (date and guest)]

You know, it was just something that I did, and I just never went back and changed it.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

I mean, she's not putting it onto, like, a dating app, trying to, like, trick guys. It's just something on her personal social media page that I think.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

My Facebook says I'm way older because I wasn't allowed to make it if age when Facebook came out just in.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Order to be able to register. Okay. But, I mean, that doesn't sound like he did anything wrong. That sounds like you're just feeling guilty that you didn't 100% come clean.

[Delilah (date and guest)]

Right. I'm just a really honest person, and it felt really weird to start off this new relationship on a lie.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Okay.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

And so it was easier to ghost him than to come clean and tell him the truth.

[Delilah (date and guest)]

Yeah, I didn't want to look stupid for lying about something so small.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Okay. You could miss out on a great guy, though. I know you're an honest person on this show. We tend not to be.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

Sorry, but we don't have any guilt about it. That is the bad part.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

That's why this is so hard for me to be honest with you and let you know that Blaine has actually been on the other line listening this entire time.

[Delilah (date and guest)]

Please tell me that's not true.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

I wish I could say that, but it is. Blaine, are you there, man?

[Blaine (listener and guest)]

Hey.

[Host 2 (possibly Maggie Freeling or Stephanie Beatriz)]

Hey.

[Delilah (date and guest)]

I don't know what to say right now.

[Blaine (listener and guest)]

I mean, I can. I can start it. That doesn't bother me. I don't care. Like, what? Age is just a number, you know? You look great. I honestly thought you look younger than 32, so.

[Delilah (date and guest)]

Oh, thank you.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

You're saying she doesn't seem like she's a 36 year old?

[Blaine (listener and guest)]

Yeah, I mean, you can kind of choose your own age, right? I don't care.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

I don't know if that's a good rule to live by.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

Oh, yeah, that is my new theory. Are you jok.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

I think the government.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

26.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Look what you've done.

[Blaine (listener and guest)]

If somebody says you look 26, you're 26. I think that's how it should be.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

Delilah, do you hear that? That is so sweet.

[Delilah (date and guest)]

I hear that. It makes me feel a little bit better, but I just. I felt really bad when you brought it up, Blaine, on the date, like, my eyes got really big and I didn't know what to say to you.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

Oh.

[Blaine (listener and guest)]

So I could probably make you feel a little bit better. So the whole. When we first started talking, I kind of lied to you about my sister.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

Oh.

[Delilah (date and guest)]

Wait, you don't have a sister?

[Blaine (listener and guest)]

No, no, no, no, I do. I have a sister, but I just. I don't know. You're so beautiful, and I really wanted to talk to you, so I just kind of lied about the. About her birthday and your birthday being the same, just because. I don't know, I just kind of wanted to start a conversation with you.

[Delilah (date and guest)]

Wait, you lied about her birthday?

[Blaine (listener and guest)]

Yeah, I mean, it was just the way I wanted to talk to you. You're so beautiful. I want to.

[Delilah (date and guest)]

You said that. So where's my gift card? I want my gift card back.

[Blaine (listener and guest)]

Oh, yeah, I'll bring it back to you. Hey, we can go on a second date and I'll pay for Starbucks. How about that?

[Delilah (date and guest)]

I don't understand. How did you figure out that my birthday. What? How did you figure out when my birthday was?

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Oh, man. Oh, God.

[Blaine (listener and guest)]

Look, if. All right, come on, man.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

I don't know.

[Blaine (listener and guest)]

This is too much to say on.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

Oh, you're gonna do it.

[Blaine (listener and guest)]

Somebody said at one point that the most attractive people's birthdays are the 5th, the 14th, and the 23rd. So I kind of did a Facebook search for people with those birthdays.

[Delilah (date and guest)]

Oh, my God.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Congrats. You're hot. Hey.

[Delilah (date and guest)]

What a move.

[Blaine (listener and guest)]

I chose you out of Everybody though, like, I didn't. I only messaged you, bro.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Did you hear what she just said? She called you a loser, bro.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

No, maybe she was talking about the guy who came up with that theory on Tick Tock.

[Delilah (date and guest)]

I mean, both of them.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

Well, I. I mean, he was just having a hard time. You know how hard dating is.

[Delilah (date and guest)]

It's really hard to find honest people. Also, that's why dating is so hard.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Delilah. You were just saying how guilty and horrible that you felt about yourself that you weren't completely honest with him and.

[Delilah (date and guest)]

Now it was a mistake.

[Blaine (listener and guest)]

Well, look, you said that I was a really cool person and we would have never met up if I hadn't gone through all that and gotten in touch with you over social media.

[Delilah (date and guest)]

Yeah, but I didn't know you were an online creep searching the dark web for people's birthdays.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Ew, Facebook. The dark web.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

Now it is like a light blue.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Living in the dark ages.

[Delilah (date and guest)]

And you even lied on your sister.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

No successful relationship has ever started with total honesty. So, like, this is actually not a bad place to jump off from. And we'd love to send you out on one more date that we would pay for. Not you, Delilah. Not with the gift cards or anything on us. 100%.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

Give him a chance.

[Delilah (date and guest)]

I just, I. I really hate dishonesty, so I'm gonna have to pass.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

No, but you really.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Coming from someone pretending to be a 32 year old, that was an accident.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

Okay? Accidentally 26.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

I don't know how this call devolved into what it was, but coming from this 23 year old GQ model, I think love is possible if you just give it a chance.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

You can't also lie about your career, Jeff.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Where's the line?

[Blaine (listener and guest)]

You're right. Love is possible. That's why I'm messaging 200 more later today.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Never give up. Successful second date update. Kind of Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. All I know is what I've been told. And that to half truth is a whole lie.

[Host 2 (possibly Maggie Freeling or Stephanie Beatriz)]

For almost a decade, the murder of an 18 year old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved until a local homemaker, a journalist and a handful of girls came forward with a story I'm telling you.

[Delilah (date and guest)]

We know, Quincy.

[Host 2 (possibly Maggie Freeling or Stephanie Beatriz)]

A story that law enforcement used to convict six people and that got the citizen investigator on national tv.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran.

[Host 2 (possibly Maggie Freeling or Stephanie Beatriz)]

My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist producer. And I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find.

[Blaine (listener and guest)]

I did not know her and I.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Did not kill her or rape or.

[Blaine (listener and guest)]

Burn or any of that other stuff.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

That y' all said.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

They literally made me say that I.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Took a match and struck and threw it on her.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

They made me say that I poured.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Gas on her.

[Host 2 (possibly Maggie Freeling or Stephanie Beatriz)]

From Lava for good. This is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame.

[Blaine (listener and guest)]

America, y' all better wake the hell up.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Bad things happens to good people and small towns.

[Host 2 (possibly Maggie Freeling or Stephanie Beatriz)]

Listen to Graves county in the Bone Valley feed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season ad free. Subscribe to lavaforgood plus on Apple Podcasts.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

I'm Jonathan Goldstein. And on the new season of Heavyweight, I help a centenarian mend a broken heart.

[Delilah (date and guest)]

How can a 11 year old woman fall in love again?

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

And I help a man atone for an armed robbery he committed at 14 years old. And so I pointed the gun at him and said, this isn't a joke. And he got down. And I remember feeling kind of a surge of like, okay, this is power. Plus, my old friend Gregor and his brother tried to solve my problems through hypnotism. We could give you a whole brand new thing where you're like super charming all the time, being more able to look people in the eye, not always hide behind a microphone. Listen to heavyweight on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Man, people are just not forgiving enough anymore.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

You think that's what it is? I wanted them to go out. I think they would have been so cute.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

I think that's the problem. It's like, it's forgiveness, cuz. Let's recap. Delilah was not honest about her age. And Blaine heard that and said, you know what?

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

What?

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

It's okay. Yeah, I don't care. I like you. And then Blaine goes, I also kind of wasn't honest about my sister's birthday. And Delilah went, how dare you? You deserve to suffer a lonely, painful death. Or something along those lines.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

You know, I don't know that she went that far, but basically, tell me that effect.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

It should have been even Stevens. It should have been like, okay, you lied, I lied. There were equal lies. We're both honest. We talked it out.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

I think we're concentrated the wrong thing. There was honest honesty at the end. That's the thing that we should. But once he said he DM 200 women.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Why is that bad? It's no different than meeting on the dating apps. You're messaging probably 500 women there and only going out with one.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

It just makes you feel like a loser. Yeah, yeah, totally. It's just. I'm sorry, it's just how it is.

[Host 2 (possibly Maggie Freeling or Stephanie Beatriz)]

Jeff.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Why can't as a society we just be more accepting about the creative ways that people connect online? Because, you know, nobody wants to meet in person anymore in public. But no girl wants to be one of 200 messages either. Like, you gotta have a middle or why?

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

We just agree that there's some things that just shouldn't be said, even if we love honesty.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

There you go. I'm going to say something so mean right now. But you know what, I'm actually going to, I'm. I'm going to, I'm going to restrain, restrain myself and just say, you know what? If you want some help with your dating life, email the show.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

Why were you going to be mean?

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Just make you angry? I don't know. We'll call that person who isn't calling you back.

[Host 2 (possibly Maggie Freeling or Stephanie Beatriz)]

The murder of an 18 year old girl in Graves County, Kentucky was went unsolved for years until a local housewife, a journalist and a handful of girls came forward with a story.

[Blaine (listener and guest)]

America, y' all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns.

[Host 2 (possibly Maggie Freeling or Stephanie Beatriz)]

Listen to Graves county on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season ad free, subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcasts.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

It's Ana Ortiz and I'm Markin Delicato. You might know us as Hilda and Justin from Ugly Betty. Welcome to our new podcast, Viva Betty. We're re watching the series from start to finish and getting into all the fashion, the drama and the behind the scenes moments that you've never heard before but you were still bartending. I didn't know that. The bar back is like is that you and I turn around and it's a commercial for Betty. And I was like, I gotta go.

[Delilah (date and guest)]

I quit.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Listen to Viva Betty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, it's Stephanie, Beatriz and Melissa Fumaro and this is more better.

[Host 2 (possibly Maggie Freeling or Stephanie Beatriz)]

We are jumping right in and ready.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

To hear from you. You've thought your questions, your feelings about socks with sandals and we're ready to share some possibly questionable advice. And hot takes.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

God, that sucks so hard though.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

I'm so sorry.

[Delilah (date and guest)]

Can you out petty them?

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Can you match their pettiness for funsies. Yeah, all the things. Because aren't we all trying to get a little more better? Listen to More better on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Bridget Armstrong, host of the new podcast the Curse of America's Next Top Model. I've been investigating the real story behind that iconic show. I ended up having anorexia issues, bulimia issues by talking to the models, the producers, and the people who profited from it all. We basically sold our souls and they got rich.

[Host 3 (possibly Jeffrey or Melissa Fumero)]

If you were so rooting for her.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

And saw her drowning, why don't you help her listen to the Curse of America's Next Top model on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up everybody? It's snacks from the Trapped nerds. And all October long, we're bringing you the Horror. Boogity, boogity boogity. We kicking off this month with some.

[Blaine (listener and guest)]

Of my best horror games to keep you terrified. Then we'll be talking about our favorite.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Horror and Halloween movies and figuring out why black people always die first. And it's the return of Tony's horror show side Quest, written and narrated by yours truly.

[Blaine (listener and guest)]

We'll also be doing a full episode.

[Host 1 (possibly Jonathan Goldstein or Ana Ortiz)]

Reading with commentary, and we'll cap it off with a horror movie battle royale. Open your free iHeartRadio app and search Trap Nerds Podcast and listen. Now.